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NFL Week 1 FNF Showdown | Chiefs @ Chargers | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: All systems going clear to the leftop What's up? Ember one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Showdown Show Special Edition. Here this week
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  Speaker 1: we got the we're calling it the Friday Night football Game.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Brazil Game. We got the Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers got Hoopster here with me as always, title
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  Speaker 1: with me as always. We announced two Golden Ship IT
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  Speaker 1: winners yesterday from ship at games dot com, the game
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  Speaker 1: that we're running all season long over at ship at
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  Speaker 1: nation dot com. And we will have another Golden Ship
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  Speaker 1: at winner announced today on this show that will be
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  Speaker 1: the winner of game number one that wins a Golden
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  Speaker 1: Ship at our third Golden Ship at Ticket and we'll
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  Speaker 1: play against w hoop this Sunday for an additional bonus
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  Speaker 1: cash in a head to head. Hoopster got to bring
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  Speaker 1: you in.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: It was a fun one yesterday last night. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of good things. We'll talk maybe a little quick recap
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  Speaker 1: and then go into it, but just on some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff. But what's going on? How you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: Doing well? And I feel bad?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't feel bad for whoever wins that Golden
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  Speaker 4: Ticket because they're going to be in, you know, they'll
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  Speaker 4: have a chance to win.
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  Speaker 3: The grand prize.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel bad that they're gonna have to go
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  Speaker 4: against me, and I had to head for some additional
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  Speaker 4: cash because I mean, I just got off that cash
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  Speaker 4: show with title and I'm locked in. So it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be an uphill battle for whoever wins the Golden Ticket. Now,
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  Speaker 4: in regards to the game last night, I mean crazy start.
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  Speaker 4: I mean before the basically before the first offensive play,
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  Speaker 4: I mean the dude spits on Dak Prescott. That was
• 1:56
  Speaker 4: relatively interesting. I mean, how dumb can you be? Like literally,
• 2:01
  Speaker 4: how dumb can you be? Like just like an ounce
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  Speaker 4: of composure and you avoid spitting on a guy like
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: how dumb? So that was relatively interesting. In regards to
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  Speaker 4: how the game played out, you know, the Javante Williams thing,
• 2:15
  Speaker 4: he needed him.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't personally have a bunch. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I had any of him in the Captain.
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  Speaker 4: But with those running backs, the touchdown dependent running backs,
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  Speaker 4: like if they they run good and you know they
• 2:27
  Speaker 4: can get there and you know, ceedee lamb down at
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  Speaker 4: the two, he's able to punch it in you know,
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  Speaker 4: I want to shit on Dak but man, ceedee lamb, Like,
• 2:37
  Speaker 4: come on, man, you got it. You got to come
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  Speaker 4: up with the ball in those scenarios. So I'd say
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  Speaker 4: Egos looks a little rush. I will say Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 4: looked like way faster than he looked last season, Like
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  Speaker 4: he looked good outside of the pack pocket like he was.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously he's a running quarterback and you know
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  Speaker 4: he's shown he could move, but he looked super quick,
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  Speaker 4: super fast. That's one thing I took note of from
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  Speaker 4: from last night, kind of like the only bright spot.
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  Speaker 4: I'd say it was definitely him and how he looked
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  Speaker 4: and super pissed that the Cowboys, uh couldn't finish the
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  Speaker 4: job for all the donkeys that took the Eagles and
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  Speaker 4: survivor just so brutal, Like just looking at some of
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  Speaker 4: these contests, like fifty percent of the field forty to
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  Speaker 4: fifty percent took the Eagles, who were a terrible play
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  Speaker 4: if you watch the video that Sheets did the other day,
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  Speaker 4: like just one of the worst picks on the board,
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  Speaker 4: and these people suck out a freaking win to start
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  Speaker 4: the season. Just absolutely brutal. That tilted me more than
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  Speaker 4: anything else, to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: With you reminded me, and I'll go to title in
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  Speaker 1: a second. His title got the worthy jersey on I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure after you know, the big big w last season
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Maybe it's not actually, but.
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  Speaker 3: Just to note that you're worthy.
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  Speaker 1: No, he's not worthy. I think he's very worthy, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not. You got about that, yeah, Jared. The thing is,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this like the chat's talking about it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Oh hurts RB one. They still got the tush but
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  Speaker 1: he didn't use the toush push. It was literally Dallas
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  Speaker 1: d thirty two. Like that was embarrassing to let that
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  Speaker 1: out up and three times, including the play at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the game. When you need to have that
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  Speaker 1: coverage there, just sell out if you have to. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care. You know, maybe he does throw a couple
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  Speaker 1: to AJ Brown at that point, it would have helped
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people out that needed him. But either way,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think that was that crazy. I also think
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  Speaker 1: title that this reminds me of the game to kick
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  Speaker 1: off the season last year. The Ravens barely like the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens did, played horrible and just lost to the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 1: The Chiefs kept getting stuff like that happening, and then
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  Speaker 1: everyone thought the Chiefs were good in the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: and they got crushed. Hopefully the Eagles pick it up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. Their secondary was certainly suspect,
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  Speaker 1: allowing the guys like that to get to them, and
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  Speaker 1: also Lamb dropped like three big ones down the stretch.
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  Speaker 1: But I was pissed off. I still am East Coast
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  Speaker 1: to the max. You guys know me extra hour ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I stayed up with that shit. There was nothing happening
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  Speaker 1: after that.
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  Speaker 3: That was a just just so boring.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they could have just called it at the
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  Speaker 4: rain delay and like nothing would have changed, because it
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  Speaker 4: was a brutal finish.
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  Speaker 3: Like I hit the sheets and I was watching on
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  Speaker 3: my phone, so I stayed up extra twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 4: I could have been the crazy part about this, right, Okay, Tykes,
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  Speaker 4: I got a little inside information, right, I get shit
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  Speaker 4: for going to bed early. East Coast got the kids
• 5:06
  Speaker 4: got to get up early. My son gets on the
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  Speaker 4: bus at six fifty five. I'm up early every morning.
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  Speaker 4: Title on the West Coast said he fell asleep and
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  Speaker 4: didn't even finish the game.
• 5:17
  Speaker 5: I took a nap set in alarm. I mean the Grease,
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  Speaker 5: the ten hours of Grease is absolutely killing me over
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  Speaker 5: here right now. I set an alarm and I couldn't
• 5:24
  Speaker 5: even do it. My ass stayed asleep and I didn't
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  Speaker 5: miss much from what I heard. No no take in discord. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you always know if you win or not from discord.
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  Speaker 5: So I pulled up the phone absolutely zero tags. I
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  Speaker 5: knew I was, and from there I went right back
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  Speaker 5: to bed.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't that bad of a night overall. I'll say,
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: like between FanDuel and draftings, but I like the new
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: FanDuel format. It was like the same as it used
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  Speaker 1: to be from second place and beyond and then two
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  Speaker 1: hundred grand to first. So somebody did win it all
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  Speaker 1: out right, which is nice to see on FanDuel with
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: those big numbers up top. But you know, titles, get
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  Speaker 1: ready for that Dad Life who So he's he's learned
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  Speaker 1: about hitting the shit up early. He's talking without that
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  Speaker 1: grease time change Yeah, a little bit, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: leave it over to the Dad Life title. What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean I go a couple things. First of all,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, how like, how do you spit on someone,
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  Speaker 5: just period, and then it's national time. It's the first
• 6:13
  Speaker 5: game of the year. Like you didn't even play one play.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that changed the whole Like who knows if
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  Speaker 5: Javonte gets to like that. I mean Dual Carter the
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  Speaker 5: best de tackle. I mean it went from eight and
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  Speaker 5: a half to seven and a half right away, Like
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Carter at least meant half a point. So that
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  Speaker 5: was while to start. I mean, just how do you
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  Speaker 5: spin on someone? Period? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 6: Least if you're if you're like a big athletic athlete
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  Speaker 6: guy and you're about to play football, at least punch
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  Speaker 6: him or something like yeah, or tackle them or take
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  Speaker 6: them down to the ground, like anything besides spinning or slapping,
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  Speaker 6: Like no spinning or slapping.
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  Speaker 4: If you're a dude and you're gonna you know, you
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  Speaker 4: have an issue with someone, at least punch him or
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  Speaker 4: take him to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: No peripherals either, Like the ref was right there. If
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  Speaker 1: I just shut down, he ain't gonna notice it, Like
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  Speaker 1: he spit down on his jersey. But everyone's saying Dak
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  Speaker 1: rage baited him. Dak spit first, But Dak was just
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  Speaker 1: doing what he always does and spit the ground, gave
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  Speaker 1: him a little crazy smirk, that the Dak smirk, and
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  Speaker 1: then the guy comes over. He's like, nah, you ain't
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  Speaker 1: gonna do that, pal let me just spit on your
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  Speaker 1: chest very quick. It was like, oh that's not good.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it immediately ejected, but still pretty wild start.
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  Speaker 1: And then how the finish went was just nuts to see.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing else after that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the Yeah, I mean I'm in the
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  Speaker 5: survivor's street seeing how many people played the Eagles that
• 7:26
  Speaker 5: even like Scranders, Miles s Granders come on, buddy, great
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  Speaker 5: run and then you fumble. I mean it changes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean again, I fell asleep after so I saw
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  Speaker 5: on replay the CD drops and stuff. But you don't
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  Speaker 5: fumble that ball right there. I mean they weren't stopping
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  Speaker 5: the Cowboys at all. So yeah, that was that was
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  Speaker 5: tough to see. But this game, I mean we're talking showdown.
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  Speaker 5: This is as a lead of a showdown game, I
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  Speaker 5: think as it gets yesterday, so concentrated on the Eagle side,
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  Speaker 5: like we talked about, felt confident, especially after the blue
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  Speaker 5: in active, that it'd be Miles Sanders, and then you
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  Speaker 5: knew it was like Tolbert Turpin like it was really
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  Speaker 5: clear the guys who will be on the field, Mick.
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  Speaker 5: You can see wide receiver for US today and stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we know the Chiefs that ball can get
• 8:06
  Speaker 5: spread around multiple running backs in play. It's a really
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  Speaker 5: really fun, interesting show down, slay and tough too, which
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  Speaker 5: is what you want.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let you do our classic weather and prop
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  Speaker 1: stuff throughout if you want to get that ready. I'll
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  Speaker 1: talk quick on this other stuff and then we'll roll
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  Speaker 1: through it. There's not gonna be much. We talked a
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• 8:49
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• 8:52
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• 8:57
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• 9:00
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• 9:02
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• 9:04
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• 9:09
  Speaker 1: worth checking out. But I would go do that. As
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: I pop post it up, I'll pop it again. The
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  Speaker 1: winner is gonna be coming up. We're gonna do two
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: hundred likes today or end of the show, whatever it is.
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: Two hundred likes are end of the show. There's gonna
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: be more than enough people get in here by that time.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's only one hundred and sixty ish right now,
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  Speaker 1: but I think a lot more we'll get in. So
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: throw up a like for us, do us a favor
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: on that hoops? Are you gonna bring up saber sim
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: because well you do. I do have something quick just
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: to chat about if you want to pull that up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just running some teams here so we can
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: see where everything's going.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you're learning that. I do want to comment quickly.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: This is important for the Showdown in general because you know,
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: one of the takeaways from last night, I know not
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: everybody was in as far as YouTube chat goes, like
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: you know, at the captain even Hoop I think was
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: saying he wasn't fully in it. Like the jay yesterday
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: with Javonte, you do need stuff to go your way,
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: of course, and it's the opposite side of an eight
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  Speaker 1: and a half point spread and so on and so forth.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: But I do think that's key. Like our notification in discord,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: the minute that Jaden Blue news came up and everybody
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: had it, there was immediate chatter around how does this
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: change we update our projections, our ownership the Stone, everything
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  Speaker 1: very quickly. Anybody who saved the Stone from last night
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  Speaker 1: can go back and look at it. Javonte Williams fifty
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  Speaker 1: four hundred half the price of CD LAMB at ten
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  Speaker 1: to eight, and was nice to have them both in
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  Speaker 1: your lineup and they both popped. But once Jayden Blue
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  Speaker 1: went out, you got a little boost to Miles Sanders
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  Speaker 1: who ended up being on some winning lineups out there,
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: and then also Javonte Williams his ceiling went up to
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: a number that was only about six or seven point
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  Speaker 1: shy of CD Lamb. It was like twenty one or
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: something like that, like he can get there in whatever
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  Speaker 1: game script. And I know who you even popped in
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  Speaker 1: the discord and said, Hi, I might actually have to
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: do this a little bit more.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I did, and honestly I did, and we
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  Speaker 4: were talking about it in the discord because I wasn't
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: super high on the Dallas running back situation, and it
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: changed my teams a little bit. That's why I like,
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: don't build super early. Wait to make sure you have
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  Speaker 4: all the news. I mean, I had built some teams,
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: but I knew I was ready to make changes if needed.
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  Speaker 4: Update the projections. I updated the projections. I had twenty
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  Speaker 4: five percent Javante Williams before the news. After the news,
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  Speaker 4: I re ran my teams with our updated projections and
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  Speaker 4: a shout out to our projection team because they got
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  Speaker 4: to change quickly.
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  Speaker 3: I re ran things.
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  Speaker 4: I had thirty five percent. That was over the field
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  Speaker 4: Javante Williams with thirty percent in the big thing, I
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  Speaker 4: had thirty five percent. I wasn't super high in the situation,
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: but the news changed things. Miles Sanders. I think I
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: ended up having twelve percent Miles Sanders, which was over
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  Speaker 4: the field. On Miles Sanders, I was somewhere between ten
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: and twelve. But just because I updated the projections and
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: reran my teams. I didn't love either of the guys.
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously wrong on Javante Williams boohoo, but I
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  Speaker 4: ended up being over the field because our projections changed
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  Speaker 4: and updated, and when I ran my teams, I was
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: just getting more Javante Williams. I ended up being over
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  Speaker 4: the field on him. Didn't have him in the captain
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  Speaker 4: I didn't like them in the captain spot. He got
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  Speaker 4: two touchdowns. Guess what, we get to redo it again tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't get absolutely slaughtered because I had a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the other guys that you kind of needed. So yeah,
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: we're back at it. It's a good slate, and that's
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: why it's just important to follow through the slate all
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  Speaker 4: the way through. Even on Sunday. We're going to be
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: on here Sunday morning talking ten am Eastern. I think
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  Speaker 4: best show obviously very biased, but best show in the
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  Speaker 4: industry in my opinion, will be there talking all the
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: way up till in actors.
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  Speaker 3: But you need to work all the way.
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  Speaker 4: Through on Sunday morning, like you have to continue to
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: look at things, make sure you're not missing anything.
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  Speaker 3: And that's you know, it's the fun of it and
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  Speaker 3: that's why we do this.
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  Speaker 4: But yesterday it was a good example of that because
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: you ended up needing some of those guys that got
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: boosts after the news. And it's not massive news like
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: the blue guy being ruled out. It's not huge, but
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: guess what, it bumped all the Dallas running backs a
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: little bit, bumped their wide receivers a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: So you needed to, you know, make sure you saw
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: those updates.
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  Speaker 1: That was my thing, like it just to make sure
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  Speaker 1: people are on top of that. It's like we can
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: be hard like some I'm even hard on people sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's not in a bad way. It's just saying, like, man,
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  Speaker 1: you're building your lineups a bit early, like you do
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: have to wait. And that was a key change. And
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: it's gonna happen the same, especially in week one when
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: there's so many unknowns, a lot of those things can
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  Speaker 1: start to work in your favor if you can really
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  Speaker 1: hold off a little bit. So I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people popped into the discord right away said no Javonte,
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  Speaker 1: no money, I'm dead. It was like that was a
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  Speaker 1: way that you could have got to more had you
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  Speaker 1: have waited, and most people don't. And title, I'm gonna
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: come to you just because Brazil game anything you could
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  Speaker 1: let us know just about sort of the environment, what
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: you're seeing, the numbers, all that we're getting right into
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  Speaker 1: this one. But the other thing is just to remember,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: you know, we talked about week one being so many
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: unknowns and expect the unexpected, the old big brother line
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. But I will say what dak Davante Brown
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  Speaker 1: all I believe under ten fantasy points or actually way
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  Speaker 1: under it, even under that further. But then on top
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  Speaker 1: of it, like eighteen for Barkley, a big boy price
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  Speaker 1: tag is with a touchdown Javonte needing the Touchdoud Like
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of things aren't gonna be the way you
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: expect them to be. And somebody said it in the
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  Speaker 1: chat earlier, Anthony shout out Anthony. If yesterday was called
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: trade in shock, today is mayhem in variance. Everything goes
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  Speaker 1: I think that goes with everything during Week one, Title
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: hit us up, man, what do you got for us?
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Early thoughts.
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's in Brazil, no weather to worry about. I
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: mean even yesterday we talked about on the show obviously
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: the lightning in the rain, but like Kickers, they still
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: got there. We weren't worried about it at that point.
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: This is one of the highest.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: First half by the way, sort of cut off, but
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: they were dead at halftime they said, yeah, yeah, showed
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: up and start kicking.
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: Always dead until they're not dead. This is one of
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: the highest totals on the slate in week one though
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: forty seven and a half. Three point favorites are the Chiefs.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: No Rashi Rice, So like what we're talking like broad
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: slate overview. On the chief side you have to check out.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: But you also have Kareem Hunt, so two very viable
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: running backs. There on the flip side, you do have
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: a Mari Hampton. Najie Harris is gonna play though the
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: whole firework. I thing like it was really tough, and
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: I guess the best ball streets and all that if
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: you drafted early could get good value late. He'll probably
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: get ramped up. Like it's clear Hampton's a starter. Are
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: already said that, but looking at his rushing prop like
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: with how much hype this guy got first round pick
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: grades out really well and metrics wise, but forty eight
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: and a half rushing yards isn't really that high when
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: you look at it that way. You go to the
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: receiver room like they got of course Lad McConkie on
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: the chargers, Keenan Allen, but they have Trey Harris. There's
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: so many guys there tight end, they're gonna have a
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: whole like rotating three guys at the tight end position. Chiefs.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: We know Noah Gray gets mixed in. There's Juju Smith, Schuster.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: There's just so many guys, Hollywood Browns of the world,
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: so many guys, and I think a lot of viable,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: low or priced guys where we're not seeing as much
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: of like the Turpin of yesterday. Just get all the
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: chalk down there. Oh yes, I do think like Noah Gray,
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: if you had to pick one guy is probably who
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: gets the highest ownership down below. But I think there's
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: so many pivots. And again we talked about it like showdown,
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: if you went from the ferguson the Goddard range. Obviously
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: Javonte got there, just right down to the kickers. We
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: said defense it didn't get there. It was a Dak
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: tackle away on the Miles Sanders fumble that absolutely could
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: have changed that. But one play to Johan Dotson is
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: receiving probably seven and a half yards. He didn't run
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: many routes. One play in Showdown can change things. So
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: be comfortable with the uncomfortable in Showdown. Especially when you
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: mentioned two hundred k solo on FanDuel second place. You
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: weren't mad, but you sure weren't as happy as that
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: guy in first place. Like you you have one bink
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: a year in Showdown, I mean, you pay for everything
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: you really want that top prize.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Did you say while you were doing that about Hampton?
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: His line was forty eight and a half correct, So
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that's like an interesting thing to hoop. I think where
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I get he's not a betting show, and I'm not
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: even I'm not even putt out of a tambo bet
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: that you always are looking for those.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, though, like we would you good last year?
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we want, we want more, That's what we're looking for.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Come on, say more.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Come on, I'm just saying what I was gonna say
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: about the Hampton thing, and I'll get to my nause.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Dad joke of the week. We'll probably get in trouble
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: for people probably think it's bad taste. But anyway, when
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: you got Hampton, like, what number do you said on him?
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: If it's like seventy, you're like, well, that's a bit
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: too high for for Hampton. If it's thirty six and
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: a half, thirty eight and a half, like, well, that
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem right. I think it's like they just throw
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: the number out there. And I think he's pretty interesting tonight,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: even if he looks like he's gonna be heavily owned
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: in the flex, I wouldn't hate running back like a
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Javonte up top. But today it's Hampton as far as
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Naji goes, and I'll kick you on both these, hoop
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: But as Nausey goes, he could be the most electric
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: eyeing man tonight. Fireworks electric imix. Come on, we gotta
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: put these down when we got him. But what's your
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: grand scheme overview hoopster, what do you got?
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what to not electrifying.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: It's his fucking price tag at seven k, Like that's
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: brutal for like a backup running back where we don't
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: know what Yeah, yeah, with a one eyed backup running
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: back at seven k is Man. That's that's tough to swallow.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: But in regards to the game overall, Chiefs games are tough,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: and we talked about it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: All last season. Mainslate Showdown.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Obviously they're on a lot of showdown slates at the
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: end of the year, they're on some of those smaller slates,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: but they want to win the ugly, nasty, grinded out games,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: like people think of the Chiefs of three years ago,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: where you know, they're on a big offensive team, got
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: all these weapons, moving it quick like they are, okay
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: winning the nasty games, and that makes it a little
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: bit difficult to kind of predict like what's going to
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: happen on both sides. But you know, the one thing
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: that's for sure is we're playing a showdown slate and
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: we can't be very picky. We have limited options. It's
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: not like this is a ten game slate where you
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: can say, Okay, I don't like this offense, I'll just
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: you know, cross this off and move on.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: We have to choose players here.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: So I personally am a little more interested in the
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Charger side of things because for multiple reasons. One, I
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: think the price tags and a lot of the guys
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: are better. I mean, you look at like Mahomes versus
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: justin Herbert, everyone's gonna like or everyone has homes.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Projected higher than Herbert. I'm way more interested in Herbert.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: On the slate, you look at Hampton versus Pacheco, much
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: more interested in Hampton over Pacheco.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Go to the wide receiver. That's where it differs a
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: little bit, because I am very interested in titles. Boy Worthy,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I think Worthy is just a slate breaking sort of
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: player title obviously benefited from that the super Bowl where
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: he won. That was on and twelve or something like that,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: somewhere in that range. Change thirteen to be more precise,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: and some change. Yeah.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: So to me, it's a it's a difficult type of slate,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and I think it's a slate where I want my
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: lineups to look as different as possible, because I think,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of salaries in play here today,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Like some weird correlation stuff is in play here today.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: So Chiefe stuff always difficult. But like man like you,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: you Tamble were ahead of the curve on the never
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Mahome stuff. Obviously we can't say never Mahomes today because
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: it's a show run. It's like you got you're gonna
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: have to play them in lineups. But like from a
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: captain perspective, man, I struggle.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Like playing Mahomes up there in that captain spot.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Will I have some maybe, but like to me, like
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: if he's gonna be I mean, if he's gonna be
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: the highest owned captain, like my god, Like I gotta
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: take like an underweight stance on that, Like they don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: want him to throw the ball a ship to them.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: If there's an opportunity for them to win a nasty
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: grind it out game, they're gonna do so. Like could
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: they win a nasty grind it out game and Mahomes
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: still be the captain you need? Yeah, sure, But I struggle,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: like that's the first thing that stands out to me,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: and you know, you guys can talk about it with Mahomes.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: It's the highest owned captain. Like I struggle with that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I struggle getting anywhere close to it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Woh, this is gonna be interesting slate, interesting slate. Yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: never Mahomes. That people love that one too. It is
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: it is TM, it is drade Mark. But it's also
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: very clear with the disclaimer every time I bust it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: out that that is only in classic slate where he's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: like literally never been needed. So I think he's on
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like one of the last one hundred million makers or
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: something legit for years now. That samples, you know, long running,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. But I got some takes on them
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: for tonight. For sure. Our boy title was just messing
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: with the camera a little bit. I think it was
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: just flickering. I was gonna have one eye if I
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: had to keep watching that thing flicker at me. So
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: we got to solve now, though, I think looks pretty
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: good to me. Title title. What's your thoughts at the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: captain here with you know, mahomes up top being popular?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: How do you see it shaking out? And then I'll
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: get my thoughts after.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like a lot of hoops that hopefully I've
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: just had a man the PC. Slow the cam. A
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: lot's going on over here, tough.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: You're in thirteen K, you better start spending some of it, buddy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I know that Hoops already gave me the new PC.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: I got dropped five K on this puppy last year
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: and I can't run.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's gotta it's gotta be a mac man.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: If it's not a MAC, it's it's trash.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Take it back.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: That's what if it's not a MAC, take it back.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. I mean I agree with like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: if Mahomes is really twenty percent, which I don't, I
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: guess see why he wouldn't be Like he's projected for
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: the highest, he's not even priced the highest. We see
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: right on the stone. Negative flex leverage, negative captain leverage.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: The one thing I would be I wouldn't be two
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: shocked is if he did try and run a little more.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: But I'm also taking I mean, I'm speed kills worthy.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Was my favorite captain in the Super Bowl. I got
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: lucky for sure. By no mean I'm victory lapping that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: But anyone with four to three speed, when it takes
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: one play to change everything, I absolutely like it. He's
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: going to be owned. That's something I want to be
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: ahead on. Ladd mcconki kind of said it yesterday the
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: saquon the CD's the Browns well, and we were a
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: little right on brown. He can either be reading his
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: book or completely get there. He was reading his book yesterday.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: But I want to be overweight to these skill positioned
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: guys that have one hundred plus two touched on upside.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: That's Lad, that's exavier worthy for sure my two favorites.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Kelsey's someone that I man, I thought his legs were
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: going a little bit, et cetera. But without Rashi Rice,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I think he can just pet like Goddard. We saw
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: it so much much yesterday is the security blanket. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: could see Kelsey having twelve thirteen catches. Yeah, maybe he's
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: averaging eight yards of carry a lot of short ones,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: hot routes, etc. But I'm gonna play a lot of
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey at a fair price tag. He's definitely something
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: I prefer more on DK than Fandel with the full
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: point PPR. But worthy Lad Kelsey. My favorites are we
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: gonna get throwback Keaton is what I keep going back
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: and forth on. I mean that price is real good.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: You're gonna say something, Go ahead.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: No, I'm waiting to see, like I want to hear
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: your takes.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's again way better DK than Fandel play.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: He has their poort with Herbert. Yes, he's definitely a
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: step slower for sure, but he's the same thing like
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: I just said about Kelsey, Like if there's pressure on
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: either side. He's the security blanket. He can go nine
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: ver seventy and then if he falls in the box,
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I can see pass forgetting there. I mean, Quentin Johnson
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: can't catch a cold. Trey Harris. Who knows how much
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: they're gonna use these guys, So lad Kelsey, keenan Worthy,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: I think the top two pass catchers on both sides
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: are That's how I'm gonna be going as much. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: won't play them running backs as much in Captain. I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: fine with it. But seeing the props, thinking Nasey gets work,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: thinking Kareem Hunk gets work, I think they eat into
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: each other a little bit. I think you kind of
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: have to see one of them fall in the box twice.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Maybe the quarterbacks. I'm really going back and forth. I'm
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: gonna let you guys talk about both sides of the quarterbacks.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I think they have more sneaky rushing upside than I
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: think people are giving credit for four and a half
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: rushing attempt propped on Herbert. That's pretty good. Three and
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: a half juice on the over for Mahomes, that's not terrible.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: We've seen a hold scamper in for touchdowns when plays
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: break down, too, so I'm indifferent with the quarterbacks. I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: going pass catchers though, like yesterday.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go to mine in a second, shut rough man.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Gary said, glad to be back in the saddle with
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you again this year, hoping to have the same success
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: as last year. I appreciate all the help founding family
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: men are member worth every penny. We appreciate you. That's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Gary with many a's in his name for those that
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: don't know, and then shout out to our guy Hebrew Rios.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I got the Brittin Covey Grossy value play of the
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: day locked and loaded for discord later today. So we'll
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: see what that is if you're in the discord over
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: at Shipping Nation. But let's go back down here just
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to see. You know, people are liking the the keenan
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Alice stuff. Some people say are man Derek straight out
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: of class man. He's probably got the kids working hard
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: in the book, says Kelsey in Love he overball. So maybe, well,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see. But I think one
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: thing that's most interesting, and I usually don't love mahomes,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I usually don't love quarterbacks in the Captain in Showdown
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like that's a common theme and when I'm on them,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: they've usually done pretty well. So it's not you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: picks and plays and takes. But I think the most
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: interesting is more from the strategy perspective, if there was
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: ever a slate for that to be the case. One
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of the things about this slate is how much these
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: guys spread it around. Like when we get to those
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: other positions later, what are you gonna If anybody knows,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: please tell me Worthy Brown Schuster. We're talking in the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: discord day Taekwon Thort and everyone's telling a different story. McConkey, Alan,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I do agree. Quentin Johnson can't catch a cold. That's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: what had me laughing. But Trey Harris, like you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and then you got the tight ends. We haven't got
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: there Kelsey and Noah, Gray, Conklin and Disley whatever it
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: ends up there like you got the kickers. So it's
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: gonna get really spread out, and that's when that's the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: time to use a quarterback up top and in showdown,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: when you know, that's why the only reason I ever
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: get people getting after me on the other side of
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: never mahomes is usually in showdown. The look, see he
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: crushed it, he crushed it, Like yeah, showdown. He's valuable
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: because he's he's a guy, so he's a quarterback, so
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: he can be the guy. But Herbert spreads, you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: usually spreads it out a ton too. And then you
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: got the running backs, but that'll be alternative captains within
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the portfolio. So I just think there is a little
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: bit more merit to the captains up top today. Unfortunately,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: like you say, with them, you know, with the guy
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like Mahomes coming with so much ownership, maybe it's Herbert
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: on the other side. He definitely spreads it out. And
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: if we think someone like Keenan Allen or Disley or
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: those guys are gonna get in the mix, maybe there
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: is a possibility hoop. But do you have follow up
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: thoughts at the captain anything else you want to add?
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you are making a case for Mahomes,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: it's okay. They the Chiefs score a lot of points
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: through the air and he spreads it out, which is
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: very viable. I mean, there's so many different guys that
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: are gonna throw on the field, and that's why it
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: does make it difficult at the wide receiver position. You know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: outside of some of these, you know, the one top
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: guy and the chap we know Worthy is the top guy.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: After that, it could be like four or five different dudes.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: So if he does happen to throw three touchdowns, it's
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: probably likely it goes to three different guys with Kelsey
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: in the mix as well. So yeah, I guess, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: maybe you can make the case. But from an owner
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: ownership perspective, it's hard if he's going to be the
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: highest dooned guy up there. I mean, if I am
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: playing a quarterback up top, it's definitely Herbert and I
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: actually like him up there. I do think there's some
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: rushing upside. I like the Chargers of this season. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: think they have a good year. Like I think they're
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: an improved team, and I like the Keenan Allen call. Like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I man, I'm a Keenan Allen guy. They brought him
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: back here for a reason. It's not like they're you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: don't think he has a gas still left in the
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: tank and his style of play, even if he's eighty
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: five percent of what he was a couple of years ago,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: like at sixty four h hundred PPR full PPR setup,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: like he can definitely get there and be the guy,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: like I think, like six for eighty and a touchdown
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: is very realistic for a guy like Keenan Allen. So
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I'm in on him for sure, you know, probably in
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: the Captain as well.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let you get the screen share going with Saber.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Well you do that. Just a real quick note. I'm
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: gonna pull it up here now, so you know, like
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna get to the Golden Ship at
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: number three ticket winner that's gonna play Hoop in a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: head to head on Sunday and will be one of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the fifty finalists in Ship at Games playing for over
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand cash twenty seven thousand additional in prizes, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it can only go up from there. Got to get
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to two hundred likes, so before we announce it otherwise,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: just wait till the end of the show. There's now
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: almost three hundred people watching and we've got about seventy two,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: so let's make sure we keep those legs rolling. We'll
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: get to it. Just to bring it back. The other
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: thing I was gonna say is it's also a product
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of the slate where I'm seeing this stuff like mahomes
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: is fifteen k. After that, it's okay worthyes, thirteen to five,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Kelsey's twelve nine. First of all, there's like six other
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: guys on their team it could be, and that's also
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: a bit of a high price for them. The quarterbacks
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: are still priced down. I'm with you on Herbert, he's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the guy that makes sense on top, but McConkey is
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: actually almost sixteen k, and I'll be playing him up top.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just as the opposite of Worthy in all those
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: other factors. But just to note it, it's like there's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: not many guys up there. And then when you're talking
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: about how you would build a Mahomes captain lineup, you've
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: got Worthies nine k, but you got everybody else's almost
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: free after that Kelsey eighty six. But the rest of it,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: if you're using Noah Gray and Hollywood Brown or Worthy
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and Noah Gray, it all makes it work anyway. So
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that's another reason why you're gonna see these guys popping
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: up as optimal. If you've got a different take on it,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I always suggest you go with what you want to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: do or what you know works, or how you see
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it playing out. But I think that's why we're seeing it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And if he is, I don't know, twenty percent up
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: top in the Captain you can play ten and go underweight,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: so you can play zero and fadom you could play
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: thirty to forty and get overweight and start getting more
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: of those combinations. Because I think if he is up
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: top what people are most going to fear. And I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: would tell you this too. I would have a hard
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: time playing single Entry tonight if it was me. This
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: is a major mm slate. There's so many names that
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: people are even mentioning in the chat about Gadston and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Berchard Smith and like people are literally naming everybody. So
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I would really have a hard time playing single Entry,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and I think i'd want If it is Mahomes up top,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you're gonna wish you had more versions of it because
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a bunch of different angles to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the top if it is him up there. So title,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to you, man, The running back game
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: is what we need to talk about next. We already
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: hit on Hampton, we touched on Harris a little bit,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: but a checko on the other side some of these
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: other dudes. I mentioned that people are talking about, how
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: do you see the running game shakeout? What's your thoughts there?
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the price alone on Nause, like Coop said,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: just takes me off of him. I mean the one
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: fifty dart if. Like if you want a solo shipper,
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Nause is the way you can play him in the
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: flex to get different there. It just you need a
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: lot to go right. Like again, I think he's not
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: going to be just his full workload, and who knows
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: what his full workle It is like Hampton the starter
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: as the year goes, is it sixty five thirty five?
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Is this sixty forty? Who knows? I mean with that eye,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: he hardly practiced. It's hard to see him getting too
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: much work. So I will not be playing like there's
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: not even any rushing attempts prop on Nase Harris like
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: they have Herbert, they have all that, they have nothing
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: for Nause. So I'm not playing any at seven K.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: I'm not playing as much Hampton in the Captain, but
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna play plenty in the flex. I think he's
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I think he's gonna get a good amount of work.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: He can catch passes, he's a very good running back.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I don't love picking on the Chiefs in terms of
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: running backs against them, but it's a single game. It's showdown,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: I'll have Hampton. I prefer in Flex over the Chief.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Stuff is where it's interesting. Again, I don't love them
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: as much as the Captain. I'm gonna be mixing them
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: in the Flex. The prices are very fair on all
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: of them for their thing. Like Pacheco is starting running
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: back is a three point favorite, Seventy six hundred makes
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: a lot of sense. Kareem Hunt a backup who's gonna
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: definitely get work thirty six hundred only I prefer him.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: I think actually at ownership and the savings to Pachecko.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: If having to pick, and then I'm gonna call Rio's
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: sneaky one. I'll be in the discord and I'll be
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: looking brashards Smith. I'm gonna guess that's where Rio goes,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: and I could be wrong. There's so many options only
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: two hundred bucks. There's a reason they kept him on
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: like they he made the roster. He can catch passes.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: He is a lot different than the Pachecko. Cream Hunt
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: just up the middle, I mean Stompers is Pachecko. That
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: dude runs so hard up the middle, uses all of
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: his energy. Cream Hunts getting up there slower. Burshard Smith.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: The change of pace back could very well be the
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: two minute back. If they get down, a lot of
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: random stuff can happen. And we even saw aj Dillon
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: get in the game. Granted Chipley got hurt a little bit,
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: but week one, like who knows exactly the rotations? If
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: I'm seeing what do we got them? Project or ownership
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: to one point seven eight percent in the flex I
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: mean I can get five percent and be like three X,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be playing some bchhard Smith at two hundred
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: and zeros don't necessarily kill you, I guess either at
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: that price. So yeah, three chiefs running back and play
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: for me.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: That's exactly who it is. And now Rio is googling
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Gadson the second and finding out information about him to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: come back and say, no, title, you were wrong. It
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: was actually Gadson. And here's why I think he's the man.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: That's the sneaky play. Rio, that's what you got to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: go and do.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: So I think there you go, Gary, that helps too,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: right there. That McKinnon roll is always in the back
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: of my head and he REI likes his little scatbacks
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: like that, and the two above him are clearly not scatbacks.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Let's see how much we moved the needle tonight. Then
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: everyone always said, all these shows really moved the needle.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Let's see if he gets up to three percent now
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: from his one point seven percent, we'll see. But hoop
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: your thoughts. I mean, there's a lot of options here,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: but I think it starts with Hampton, It starts with Pacheco,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and then you can start filling in after that. You
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: already had your conversation around nause. One of those one
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: of those chat members did say, like, you are getting
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: what I always call paying up for probability. If you,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: for some reason think it's a nause game and you
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: want to do it, it's going to be a very
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: low owned nase at seven K in the flex. But
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that would be the thought process there. Where are you
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: at with these other running backs?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Man, I just can't I can't see myself. I can't
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: see myself doing the nause thing at the at seven
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: seven K. See that he wasn't gonna pay attention.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah he was, I got you, I got I was.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was waiting for to see though when you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: want to hit your emphasis because.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: People are I'm learning.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I'm still learning. But the seven K, like he's probably
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: gonna score two touchdowns, and like, do I think he's
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: scoring two touchdowns? No, Like, if you don't play him
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: at seven K and he gets in the box once,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: like you're probably still fine. So I just can't play him.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine many people do either.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Hampton over Pachuco.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: For me, I think I don't love either, Like I'm fine,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: like I'm gonna have some, but you know I don't.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: I don't love either of these guys. Will be in
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: the pool, but probably underweight. I'll just be on the
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: cheap guys. I think, you know, kind of in alignment
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: with with title. I mean he liked cream Hunt. I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: in on cream Hunt. I'm in on the Smith guy.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I think both fine options, and hopefully Smith hopefully stays
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: at low ownership. And even like Will Disley yesterday, I
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: not Will Disley.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Will put dude.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: I thought for sure he would get quite a bit ownership.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: He was eight percent owned or something like, no one
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: played him he got injured. But if he doesn't get injured,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: I think he's unoptimal because they're using him. They're going
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: to use him, and he looked good. So like, people
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: don't play the cheap plays at as high of a
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: rate as we think they're gonna. So I like the
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Smith guy a lot at two hundred. I think he's
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: a great play. I like cream Hunt at the thirty
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: six hundred price tag. Those are my two favorite running backs.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a John Cena with the props. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: can't see myself playing nause you know. And then people
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: are like, oh shit, they caught onto it and and
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: collected I forgot. Yeah, Nad's got it big time. Pats
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Homer Rio go, that's for sure. Second round pick. It's
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton could do out Man and hey, nothing wrong
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: with a double T, you know, Tyler Tambaline, you got
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the double T Taekwon Thornton. Let's get it tonight. That's
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the play. I like that twelve hundred bucks. So in
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the flex, the one thing that's interesting is just the
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Pachecko stuff. I'm with you too, Hoop, Like, I get
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: what you're saying on the Hampton side of things for sure,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: but if not gonna go with heavy Mahomes up top.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: It's like Pa Checko Worthy Kelsey. It can be other guys.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like those three on that side specifically
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: seem pretty good. And it's early, but I'm seeing much lower.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing like five percent Pachecko Captain and like twenty
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: percent Mahomes. So that's where again, you can control your
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: own portfolio. You're allowed to to make changes and do
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: what you want with it, of course, but I think
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that's an idea where you would say, like, Okay, if
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be as high on this, why wouldn't
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I be looking to get more of this? And so
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: that's just my two cents on it as well. I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: think on both sides, you know you're gonna have some
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: of those other value plays and things like that mix in,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: But for me, I'm gonna be focused on those two
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Pacheco Hampton And then it does look like Smith will
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: be the guy. I know we were making fun of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: it earlier, but that be the guy that creeps through
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit more just in that spot versus the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: nause he's and the others you know that are out there.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: So go to Wide Receiver. I'll stay with you, Hoop.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I know we talked about worthy lad Keenan Allen kind
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: of hit on those. What about the others the outsiders
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: and Title already said it like Quentin Johnson can't catch
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a cold. I like that line, but he's not. I mean,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: you're making a bunch of stabs on all these other guys.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about that?
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: It is wild that they continue to give this Quinton
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Johnson guy uh an opportunity, like he has never been
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: able to catch it pass he always fucks up, like
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: just has no hands and like he still has a role.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: So I mean they must be showing something in practice
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: or I don't know, like that they that they like,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: but he.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Is he's been so bad with that being said, like
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: in Herbert Captain teams, I definitely want a little bit
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: of him at fifty four hundred, but man, it is
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: not comfortable. He's gonna drop some passes and you're gonna
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: be pissed off that you played him. Worthy's definitely my
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: favorite nine K slate breaking upside. Maconkee I love at
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: ten to six. Remember last year I was calling him
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Maconkie the Donkey. I learned my lesson on that rather
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: quickly because this dude is good. This dude is good,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: So I'm retiring that nickname. Can no longer call him
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Maconkie the Donkey because he is he's legit, but you're
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: paying the price of now ten to six. But it's
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: easy to get him in. Like all the other Chiefs
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: guys I just think are better suited in Mahomes captain
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: sort of teams, Like I want exposure to all of them.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Who knows who it's gonna be? And I guess that
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: is another case to be made for Mahomes captain team.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: There's so many different ways you can go about playing
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: them with all these potential pass pitchers.
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: So you know, Juju Thornton, Hollywood Brown as well, like
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: and then like the tight end.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna play him. Who's it gonna be? I
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: have no idea, like who the hell knows? It's very
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: hard to predict, but I'll have him in my playerpool.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Talked about Keenan Allen. I like him in all four meats.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, again, there's a reason they brought him here.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: He still looked good last season.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: It's not like he fell off a cliff last year
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: and was terrible, like he was productive with the Bear
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Bear Bears last season, like they brought him back like,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: I think he can be fine sixty four hundred Like again,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I think he can get six for seventy in a touchdown,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: and that could be what you need in captain, so
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: very interested in him. Trey Harris, I guess you can
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: throw him in there. Probably more Herbert captain sort of teams,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: but you know Worthy, McConkie, Keenan Allen, and then just
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: kind of all those other guys in the quarterback captain teams.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was trying to look it up too, title
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: just to see, like, man, none of these guys I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, like the only other one that stood out
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to me as a maybe just because of his price.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna kill It's gonna kill me if it
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: does in nine ups. But I mean like to put
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: some of these in through is Hollywood Brown, And that's
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: kind of like the one that makes sense, even though
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. I'm just saying, but at least that one,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I don't feel his bad about it. I like the
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the you know, Rio said Taekwon Turner for his name,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't know that when you google Taekwon Turner
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and people are out there wondering who Rio's talking about,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that is a an inmate right now in Hartford Prison.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: That's gonna pop up. So you try to tell people
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to play inmates tonight. So we appreciate you Rio, But
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: the the other guys like Trey Harris, who mentioned I
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: think is good. But really for me, it's like outside
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: of the Worth, these the lads, the Allens, it's it's
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: more Hollywood, it's more Trey Harris, and it's more Taekwon.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: What about like Darius Davis or some of these other
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: guys down here, anybody else that you like down the trade?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Like I mentioned Trey Harris, do you like him? Do
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you like any of those other options down low?
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: I don't think I'm gonna really mess with the Lamberts
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Trey Harris, like they're gonna rotate on the field a
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: little bit. But because Trey Harris has wide receiver four,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: I think Lambert's five rookies. But they're even competing with
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: each other to get on the field, so it's not
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: like one has that. Like I prefer Taekwon Thornton to
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: both of them because he at least is solidified as
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: that wide receiver four. And yeah, Darius Davis, if you
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: play him, you're probably playing Chargers defense. You're hoping he
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: springs a kick return or something like that for the
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: double dip they just have such a big receiver room.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Now again you're playing one fifty, like getting a little Harris,
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: getting little Smith is fine, Quentin Johnson. He was then
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: dealing with the concussion a lot of the preseason, so
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: who knows if his snaps are dialed back just a
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: little bit. I prefer the Chiefs guys in the flex though,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: to the Chargers, like I like Ladden Worthy a lot
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: at Captain, like I said yesterday, but I'm not gonna
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: have as much in the flex. They have big boy
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: prices Worthy especially he can fully get there or he
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: just can have like a three for thirty game, and
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: they run the football. They management like coops, saying like
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: I either want him to get there fully or probably
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: not be optimal. I'm hoping the same kind of with Ladd.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: But I do prefer Lad in the Flex Overworthy, since
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: he's a PPR monster, more ways for him to get there.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: But I like Hollywood a lot, I like Juju a lot.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: These guys are gonna like Hollywood's or receiving yards prop
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: only nine less than Travis Kelcey. His price tag is
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: twenty eight hundred dollars less. You could see Hollywood like
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Captain like you were mentioning, I'd be fine with that,
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: but I've talked into I think there's sneaky rushing upside quarterbacks.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: You talked about how much they spread it around. I
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: will be playing them at captain. If I'm playing them
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: at captain. When I'm playing Mahomes, Juju's, Thornton's, Hollywood's like,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: I'm more likely to play them. When I'm playing Herbert,
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: I'm more likely to play the Quinton Johnston's, the Keenan Allen's,
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: the Lads. And then that's probably when a Trey Harris
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: something like that would come in. So it's yeah, we
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: play a puzzle, a salary based game more than just
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: today this guy's gonna go off. I mean, we really don't.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: That's how I will.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I will say. Our projections are pretty high on Hollywood Brown.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I mean we have them met.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: You can see here on the stream twelve point three
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: you go over to captain. This is just dry run
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: by projected score. Obviously we do sabers score, we do
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: contest stems will change quite a bit, but the initial
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: dry run has twenty one percent Hollywood Brown, So our
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: projections are pretty high on Hollywood Brown today.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I look at it, you know, a bunch
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: of different things to compare of off of there. But
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: like I talked about it last night with the Javante
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Williams situation, it has nothing to do it like ones
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: of running back ones a wide receiver, him and Lamb have.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, they can hurt each other if he gets
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: in the box and Lamb doesn't. But I mean Lamb
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: was almost said he was going old school, justin Jefferson style,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: almost seventy six in the first quarter and could have
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: caught more. And it's like, that's kind of the setup
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing here when I look at it. Hollywood. Brown's
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: projection and ceiling are correlated, of course, if we all
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: hire the projection to hire the ceiling typically, but you're
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: you're looking at Worthy, it's like maybe almost half couldn't
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: of being almost half the ownership, way less in the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: price there. And then if you're comparing it on the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: other side, it's very similar with Keenan Allen to lad Maconkey,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and so you know, that's kind of the setup of
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: these guys. I think it's interesting from that perspective. But
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: back to what title said and why my original point was,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I almost always am off quarterbacks at the top. The
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: time that it makes sense is when they're really spreading
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: it around and we're making this much this many cases
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: at running back, this many cases a wide receiver. We're
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: about to do it at tight end spoiler alert. So
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: it's about to be the same thing. To title's point,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: let those guys fall in where they may. And that's
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: why you may want more of those lineups, like who
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: beier side is Herbert and that's good too. On Herbert's
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: side you can get lad keenan Allen. You might not
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: like Quintin johnsonbody makes perfect sense in the flex going
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: with what's gonna set off. He's not gonna be probably
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the killer himself, but he'll be the guy that might
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: be needed in the flex. In that example, all those
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: other guys down the board with your Herbert captains can
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: make sense. So I think there's something to be said
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: for that as well. Title, you want to take tight
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: end quick and then we'll move it over to hoop
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: for any any thoughts there.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, four guys, I mean, Kelsey and Gray will both play.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: They'll sometimes run twelve personnel, both of them on the
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: field at the same time. Noah Gray does feel like
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: the one again. No one I think is in the
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Turpen range in terms of like the chalk cheap option
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: because there's enough guys below. But I do think Noah
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: Gray will be one of the highest owned down there
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: at three point four k Juju's four hundred less, so
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: I think those two will be pretty popular. When I'm
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: playing like Gray and Kelsey and stuff, I'm more likely
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: to play him in the flex. I do like tight
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: end though, like I'm gonna play Will Disley in Conkland.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: Harbo's gonna want to pound the football, get big boys
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: out there play action. I mean you can have Disleey
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: and Conklin in the field at the same time, Kelsey
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: and Gray on the field at the same time with
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: teams that are fined running the football on play action. Yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: there's plenty of outs for them to get there. Disleey
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: had multiple games last year where he was very, very
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: efficient and you needed him in showdown and type stuff
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: like that. So looking at the ownership, all very low
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: teams for like the Disley Conklin maybe even like high
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: single digits, and yeah, I'm just gonna be on board
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: of Kelsey without Rashid Rice his main guy worthy's just
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: a different type of player. Those just quick five route
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: and they just know each other like the back of
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: their hand, the option routes that they have. I'm hoping
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: we get like an eight to ten catch Kelsey game
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: and he's optimost. I'll be overweight, probably captain and flex
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: with him. But I like the tight ends for their
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: for their prices and ownership.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: How do you think you're gonna handle it? Who puts
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: your thoughts at it?
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: So, I like them all.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Kelsey man, I'm a little concerned with Kelsey, just like
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: a little little bit like he looked slow and a
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: lot of times last season, but like he can definitely
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: get there with like the the PPR stuff.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go crazy.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: With with with Kelsey, Like I'm gonna probably be around
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: the field, maybe a little under on Kelsey, Like I
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: how focused is he on football? You got all the
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: off the field shit going on? Like that being said,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: he like he can still get there, So I don't know,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: probably field or below on him. Definitely in on Noah Gray.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Like another reason I guess now I'm probably talking myself
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: into the Mahomes captain teams just because there's just so
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: many different guys that you can play him with.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: So even if he.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Is high on there, like, it's easy to find different
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: ways to play him, I guess, is what I'm trying
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: to say.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm definitely an on Gray.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I like dis Ley a lot, and then I'll throw
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Conklent in there some, but definitely Disley over Conklent for me.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: But all you know, the tight ends are in play
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: here for me.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think for me, I'm just looking at
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: like Kelsey, I'll probably be underweight or you know, around
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the field at captain, but just from what I'm seeing
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: early run, But I will say, like in the flex,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: there's also a potential where this game is just going
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: through some of those same dudes and at eighty six
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: hundred you have the money or if you're balancing instead
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: of going with the cheapies, like, there's a ton of
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: different ways to use them. So as of my first
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: run here, like, I've got more Kelsey in the flex
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: than I am gonna run up top in Captain. Again,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: if it's a lower scoring game the PPR gets nine
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: catches for sixty or something, that's still a pretty solid line,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: probably won't be up top, So you know, at that number,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: So just got to see how it plays out. Just
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: looking at Noah Gray, I mean, he's gonna be popular,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: but again it's flex. I'm not putting them up top.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: That's That's the other thing we talked about this yesterday,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: like the Turpin Captains and all this stuff. People are
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: trying to do, Like those lineups are duped a million times,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: and then on top of it they have like no,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: they're pretty dead going in. So it's just that that
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: stuff doesn't really help you. It's trying to look around
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: your build for other ways to get there. And I
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: think that's what you'll have to think about. If you
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: got Noah Gray in there, but you're leaving twelve hundred
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: bucks on the table, I mean, maybe that accounts for
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: it and you can get away with it that way.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: So just think about those things when you're building out
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: your lineups, as far as the back or the other
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: guys go. I guess if you will, Like right now,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I'm getting some some Disley guy cost me a bunch
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: of money last year. I'm sorry, some conkling costs me
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: a bunch of money last year. But I'm getting some Disleay,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: some Conklin. So that's where I'm out on like the
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: backup side of things, the gray spot I'm getting. But
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be in those builds where it's kind of
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: like what Title said earlier at wide Receiver, it's more
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: so filling out to just to fill out the lineup.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: It'll be different in other ways because I'm obviously trying
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: to have more unique lineups to get to a unique
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: or solo shipper. If possible, love to win five hundir
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: k that that would always be nice, So Title, anything
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: else to add? If not, we can go to Kickers
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and D's and then we'll take it to fan duel
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Hoop if you want to maybe pop that up for after.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: Nothing more to add. I still think Kickers are too cheap.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: I probably think defenses are a little more. I mean,
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: Mahomes doesn't take that many sacks. I think Herbert's and
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: their offensive line and stuff will be fine. So I
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: like the Kickers, I don't like the defenses as much.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: I prefer Bucker to Dicker. If picking who.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Buck, there's got to be some sort of joke there.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I'm not clever enough
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: to figure it out, but I like both too. Dicker
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: and Bucker. Either one's fine.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, Dicker has been very solid and Bucker is
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: obviously very solid. And minimal interest in the defenses. I
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: mean they're what forty four hundred and four k like
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: I just I don't love it. And you know, Chargers defense,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: you know, my homes does a great job of avoiding sacks.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Like like title said, so just I won't have much
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: of the defenses, but I'll have a lot of kickers.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Man Antwine, the checko said, verbatim, I was listen, I'm
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: on a revenge store. I was on a revenge tour
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: last night and didn't go well. So you know we're
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: now I'm on a revenge stur again tonight.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: So that's one of those things. I mean, like statements
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm not not shitting on our guy
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: or anything, but statements like that, it reminds me of
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: like the training camp. Oh my gosh, so and so
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: came into training camp in the best shape of his life.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: How many times do you hear that? Like everyone everyone's
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: on a revenge tour. Guess what, you didn't any any
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: player or any team that didn't win the Super Bowl
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: last year they're on a revenge tour this year.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Guess what. Ninety percent of them are going to fail
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: again this year.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: I will say Dak did look in phenomenal shape, and
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: Dak was impressive yesterday. I don't know if you saw
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: him with his shirt off and warm it up and
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: stuff that, and he was dropping him down.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Someone said, like, Buddy's in there looking rock hard.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he used those exact words.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: So this man looks rock hard.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Pause.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Funny, this guy's talking about Dak. Yeah. I don't know
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: what he's talking about, but he said, Dak rock hard.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: He said exactly what you said. That's part of the
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: reason I remembered when they paneled because of what he said.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Rock he looks rock hard. Oop.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: So I mean it happens a guy he maybe in
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the best shape of his life. Those two throws to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Ferguson were some of the worst throws of his life.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Like Ferguson beat his man, he throws at the back
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of the other dude's helmet, and then the next play,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Ferguson's like, well, I should try and catch this, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: let me look up for two seconds. Oh wait, I'm
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: about to get smoked. Let me just get smoked and
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: still not catch the ball.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: So I wish there was a market there might be
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: so learning that the odds are probably terrible. But if
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: you could bet on someone to never win like a
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: super Bowl, like I would put so much money and
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sure the odds would be terrible, but just so
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: much money.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Odds would be so bad, But I would.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: Be Kyler, who's more likely to win.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Oh god, wow, that's bad. That is tough. That is tough.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Like they're both drawing completely completely dead.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: Maybe I could parlay it together, parlay Kyler and Dak
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: never winning a super Bowl together to increase the odds,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: because there is literally no chance.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: They are the.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Two of the worst actual game winning quarterbacks and that's.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Got to have way better chance.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that parlay pays minus two thousand when you put.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Together, for sure, it's the worst odds.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, like it's it's so hard to win a
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: super Bowl anyway.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like when people.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Like it's hard to.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Win, I am, yeah you could. I don't think golf
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: has a chance of winning it either, I'll be honest
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: with you. You can probably throw him into the mix line. Yeah,
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: you guys would be some we'll talk about it Sunday
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: morning a little bit more. But I don't have high
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: hopes for the for my lines this year.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: Wow, there's no doubt.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: It's very tough and I just we'll get into it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: But like you have, like as a quarterback in the
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: NFL in this day and age, you have to you
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: don't have to be a running quarterback.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: But you have to be able to at least escape
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: to have success. Like, you have to be able to
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: escape pressure. There's certain scenarios.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Where maybe it doesn't matter as much potentially, but like
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: you need to if you have like a super super
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: elite defense or you know, a generational running back or something,
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: but like you have to be able to escape pressure. Golf,
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: when he gets pressure, he literally folds. Man, it's either
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: a shitty pass or just take the sack. You're like,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: you can't win a Super Bowl that anymore.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my thoughts too. And I know that I'm
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: a Ravens fan. Anybody who knows me knows that they
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: were talking about itlast night as well. But Lamar two
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: time MVP three playoff what is it with three playoff games?
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Like this guy or whatever, I can't remember what it
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: is it's either games or wins. Think wins, but man,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: the guy really has to get it done like at
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: some point, and so we'll see. We'll talk about that
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: later as well. One note, somebody in the chat was
• 54:15
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  Speaker 1: show this one. But what's the FanDuel thoughts?
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just pulling it up here. I didn't build teams.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: We just kind of have it up here. But if
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: you go in, you look at the MVP or I guess,
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I guess we look at the pricing. You know, my
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: homes the most expensive player on the slate thirteen to two.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: You go to MVP nineteen eight. So quarterbacks, like we
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: talked about yesterday, do have an advantage on FanDuel without
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: the PPR. You know, running backs have a little bit
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: of an advantage over as well.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: But man, like.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: You go through and the main thing you're looking at,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: you know, if you are someone that primarily plays on DK,
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: look at and see if you can find like big
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: price differences between players like Hollywood Brown is all the
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: way down here at fifty two hundred. That seems very
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: cheap to me. We had a nice projection on him,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: and make sure we're in on ours. Yeah, twelve two
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: is our projection. That seems like a little high, but
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: for five too, Like if you're using our projections, he's
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: gonna pop in a lot of stuff, Like he's definitely
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: gonna show up, you know, in a lot of different things.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Also talked about it yesterday, like wide receivers in the
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: MVP spot are just naturally going to be much lower on.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: People are gonna be.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Looking at quarterbacks and running backs kind of guys like
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Kelsey get there. I prefer Kelsey on fan duel in
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: the MVP opposed to the captain over on DK, like
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: he can catch two touchdowns, like very viable, freaking hair
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: posity going crazy.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm sorry about that.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Come down, look for some cheap options, Juju Smith, I
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: think three k interesting the Smith guy sixteen a little
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: little less appealing on fan duel opposed to DK, where
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: is just two hundred dollars kickers know, Bucker dick Er.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: I think still in the conversation here and I wanted
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: to look at where Oh so the one thing that
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: definitely stands out over here is Hampton sixty four hundred
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: for Hampton on FanDuel.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: He is.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Thirty twenty six hundred dollars cheaper than Pacheco, where that's
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: kind of not flip, but he's a little more expensive
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: on DK, So that is definitely a pricing difference that
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: stands out.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: But again, like.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Kind of what we talked about yesterday, kudos to FanDuel
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: for finally getting this right. I mean a little bit
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: later than we all wanted, but it makes it much more.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Appealing to play over there on the showdown slates.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gio said, you really just want low duped lineups,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: and it really goes with the FanDuel player. So I
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: brought the lineup up just to get people an idea.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: There was again it was like second place was it
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: was only twenty three people in second place. It's not
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: like it was that bad anyway, but just to note
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: it like that was a Javante Williams is the second
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: place lineup with the chop. It was Javonte Williams in
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the MVP. It had Lamb, it had Ferguson, it had
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Aubrey and then it had Barkley and Barks, Barkley and Hurts.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: But you see the difference in going up top. Is
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: it left like an extra two grand on the table
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: and it had Williams in the MVP, still had Lamb
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: and Aubrey, still had Barkley and Hurts, but instead of
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: going with Ferguson, it went with Dotson. And is that
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: a risk? Absolutely? There's still people out there saying, can
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you believe that Ferguson dropped those balls and whatever? And
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I actually think there were bad throws, But the point
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I think or what they think. It's like,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: that's why it was being chopped twenty three ways as
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: opposed to one. The player that came in first, sept Ravens,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Ravens fan, maybe hopefully smart, maybe not, but just noting it.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: They finished in first and they just took that. Ritson
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: was point. We're eight percent owned and they left three
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: grand on the table. And it's like, if Dotson gets it,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I got Hurts connecting with them. If it's for everything,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I still got Javonte up top. Like that lineup is
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: not that crazy. It's just all remembering that you are
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: looking for these lower owned, low duped lineups. It's the
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: game changer. Hooped about it yesterday with his Milli Maker
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: win in Classic, and that's because of buddies, you know, Supertrain.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: But even if it wasn't the super Train, it's just
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: like your lineup didn't get there and you finish in
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: twenty six. It's such a massive difference between that and
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: first place. Obviously, that's that's no secret. So just noting
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: it from that perspective on FanDuel, you kind of can
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: go with a bit of a more unique MVP. So
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: just a note, Javonte Williams two point nine percent in
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the MVP last night up top. That's that's how you
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: can see it happen. And then you go down from there.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Leave a couple grand on that last play and if
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: it ends up being your guy that catches the fifty
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: yard catch like Dotson did early, that's that's kind of
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the setup that you want title anything to add on
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: the FanDuel side of things, Yeah.
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: I mean you didn't last year. We almost never would
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: have seen a solo shipper for two hundred K. So
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: just that alone, it's very similar to DraftKings that added
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: the extra spot. You'll love to see it. It makes
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: playing on both sites a lot more viable, and it's
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: a little different. Like we mentioned Keenan Kelsey, I prefer
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: them on DK full point PPR site where it's fandel
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: Probably prefer like a Quinton Johnston because that two catches
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: for sixty yards means a lot more than if someone's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: going six for fifty and stuff like that, so little,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: little differences. I also think quarterbacks will be in general
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: more owned MVP wise on FANDLE than they will captain
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: most of the year, because again that half point difference
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: for pass catchers, it adds up a lot. Really, the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: only difference, like who mentioned it, Hampton's price on FanDuel
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: is absolutely crazy. He's definitely gonna be really high owned
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Hollywood Brown two only fifty two hundred, like the defense
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: is eight hundred, Chargers Defense eight hundred dollars more, Chiefs
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: Defense fourteen hundred more. Quinton Johnson's higher own like, it's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: just that price and Hampton look off. Plenty of cheap
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: options if you want to mix and stuff up or
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: mix stuff up around. Pickers look good. Nausey's still expensive,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: So really, Hampton Hollywood are the two differences that I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: saw on FANDLE.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: And I'll note it too. I mean, we got more
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: options today. I feel like we had a bunch of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: the same same game. Game is the game, but I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: will say it feels like there's more options you can
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: use today. But yesterday almost sixty five percent, which we
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: said this would be the case, We said over fifty
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: probably still and it's sometimes warranted, but with the new
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: format maybe not so much. And clearly it wasn't with
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Chavante had less than five percent, but just there, less
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: than three even, but sixty five percent between just Hurts,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Barkley and Dak just like that. And then you add
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: in I can try and find Lamb real quick to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: see what Lamb was.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: He was eight or nine, Yeah, he was.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: It shows six and a half in the main fifteen
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: dollars one yesterday. But yeah, that's another one right there,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and n aj Brown at five and Davante at four.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: So like you're getting those five percenters up top.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: Going into the slate if you knew, I mean, Cede
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Lamb at six percent had to be the best captain
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: player on the slate yesterday. Like that's that's crazy that
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: he was at love that's crazy.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was wide open.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: And I mean the fact that he was well owned
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: like that. To me, that's that's.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: It shows how much of like the spread when you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: get bigger spreads like that. Yeah, I mean that changes.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: That, It really doesn't. It dictates the ownership. It dictates
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: the way people build teams.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: And kind of we touched on a little bit because
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Sheets popped in the chat and said, when they see
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: an eight point favorite, they play it like their a
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: fifteen point favorite.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: And that's true, Like that is that is true? I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: mean when when.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: You see a touchdown or more favorite, people take it
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: to the extreme. CD Lambs should have never better. That's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: that's criminal.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great call too. Showed it to
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: our guy Sheets. He did pop in and say those
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: exact words, and that's what ended up happening. So although
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: there is a conspiracy theory threads out there saying that
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: CD was throwing the game at the end and just
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: dropping those passes on purpose because they couldn't get that over,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: but never know, man, crazier things have happened. There was
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: lots of conspiracies when the Ravens beat the forty nine
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: ers in the Super Bowl, Remember the lights went out
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: in the Superdome in New Orleans and then came back
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden. It was a close game and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: right down to the last play of the game. So
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: and now calling Kaepernick man, he's in the best shape
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: of his life every single year, too ready to play,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and that happened.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: So I will say Kaepernick is in his prime. He
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: was better than half the quarterbacks we got now agree.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: These dudes are statues back there, some of them.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: So he was.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was tearing the Packers out at any time
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: they played him, that's for sure.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Is that even possible? Fando has a thousand dollars flex
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: price tag? Now I don't did they always and I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: just didn't know? Or is that part of the news
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: that changed it? That's what the because of the VP
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: cod I didn't even see that one. I everyone caught
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the MVP one and a half. Then some are like,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: oh wait, there's six spots. Now I caught those two,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: but I didn't see that. You're getting thousand dollars, guys.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Ive k to one K it's big. I mean, they
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: did it right. They copy and paste the DraftKings. But
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: that was the only route to do it, Like there
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: was there's no other way to do it, though, add
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: the spot and get the pricing.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I mean at that point I just didn't put too
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: and two together, and you could tell when you're just
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: using an optive tool optimizer, bring information over from shipa nation,
• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: That's what we do, and that's just what I did.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: So I played the whole slate last night. Didn't even
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: know they had those cheapies, but it makes perfect sense
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: with now these flex and with these sorry MVP prices
• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:18
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to just click your link at the top, Well,
• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: to keep them on edge. They couldn't hit those likes.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I'm fine, just waiting to let it, let it set in.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to note too, If yeah, click that.
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  Speaker 3: Why is it not going Well, it's popping off to
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  Speaker 3: different screen for some reason.
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  Speaker 1: Hang on, if you click that tab at the top,
• 1:05:35
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• 1:05:38
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. I was wondering. I flipped so quickly.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: So that'll show you if you still want to get
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  Speaker 1: in on ticket number four. This is you.
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  Speaker 4: Should You should have told me that a long time
• 1:05:56
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  Speaker 3: Man, I'm bad at some stuff. I got this, man,
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  Speaker 1: This is good. Yeah, the people want the food takes
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  Speaker 1: back on Sunday. Right now, we're doing We're coming right, Well, we'll.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Get I didn't get a little credit. Uh l s U.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Nick popped in the chat yesterday. I said he was
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: proud of me because I didn't order well done. I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: got the medium well when we were at the steakhouse.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: That's no, no proud of anything. Medium wells damn near
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: well done.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: And it was like a title. I'm there right and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: you should see him he's like medium.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: Well, like, oh my gosh, we just wanted they weren't there.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. If you guys
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: weren't there, I would ordered well done for sure.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, did you taste the difference? Like, did you notice
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: that like the hockey puck? Like hockey pucks? Right?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Ship?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: I want it burned?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see medium is one of us got of ship.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: We can't be the only.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: One way to fix it is to announce a winner,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: and we got there. Go congrats to Matt Misky. Matt
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Misky is the winner. If you flip those aams upside down,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you got ww like Willy Wonka. So look at Matt
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Misk getting the job done, number three of fifty. We
• 1:07:06
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• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: up you guys be able to get your head to
• 1:07:10
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• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: you do get a bonus two hundred and fifty dollars,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: But the bigger feature is that you are playing for.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: As you see at the top of the screen, you
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: now are in the final fifty. You will play off
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: in week seventeen with forty nine others where the top
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: ten will move on. That's a min cash of probably
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: three fifty by the time we get there, if not more,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: depending on how good the pool does building it up
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: as the season goes on. But you'll have a chance
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: to win two fifty on Sunday. You're already guaranteed two
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: fifty and a month of Ultimate for getting in, so
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: that's three twenty one prize and then an extra two
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: fifty in cash could win two fifty more off hoop
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: and then the prize pool can only go up and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: if you get through that top fifty to the top ten,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: you will play in Week one of the NFL Playoffs
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: where it is currently, it can only go up as well,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: but it is currently twenty thousand to first, ten thousands
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: all cash prizes, ten thousand a second, and five thousand
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: to third. There's prizes all the way throughout, but those
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: top three also get one year of ship at Nation
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  Speaker 1: and Saber sim which is another forty three hundred dollars value.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: So lots of good news. Congrats to Matt, got the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: job done. Anything else you want to add? Whop you're
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: smiling over anything else you got?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Well? Just reading some of these comments, people really hate
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: if you like well done steak, it's actually incredible, Like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: people like are offended by the fact that someone would
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: like a stake well done.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: It's uh, you.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: Can't waste that great piece of meat. I mean there
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: are the people are.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: It's not like it's going in the trash.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: I'm meeting it. No, you're not enjoying it. You're not
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: enjoying it as much.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: You're wasting it. He may be enjoying it. He's enjoying it,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: but it's it's a waste because the reason isn't a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: math game. It's a math game. You get one hundred
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: people in the room right now, it's like ninety to ten.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: It might be ninety five to five for where well
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: done lands you might get three to five well done.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: If you think it's a ninety five to five, yes, issue,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: Like everyone, I'm in the five percent minority.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: Definitely not in the ninety five. Yeah, you're in the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: five I think.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: It's I think there's like something like men feel tough
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: by saying they like pink meat like I don't know,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: Like they feel like they're like superior if they say
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: I like my meat like not cooked as much like
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: it's I don't know.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: It's like a masculinity thing for people. I don't. I
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: don't get it.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: Like I might have good taste buds everything.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a lot.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: Most men have good taste buds.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Come on, well, we we will definitely have to to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: bring it back on Sundays. People loved it, so we'll
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: we'll have all have some more terrible tanks for sure.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: But I mean it's I don't know, I mean, it's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: just a preference thing.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: Nothing you can do.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: You're all right, that's true.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: It is like ninety five five. Even the chat agrees,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good. I appreciate you guys. We we
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: love doing this. You know, we'll be back Sunday. For
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: those who don't know, it's ten am Eastern, so Sunday
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: we'll be back. We will have another Golden Ship at
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: ticket whener obviously the week one is crazy. We got
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: five in total. The fifth will happen on Sunday because
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: they're playing for that ticket. But we had two bonus
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: tickets heading into the season. The second of the two
• 1:10:02
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• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: easy as can be be able to bring that with
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• 1:10:14
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