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- 0:39All right. Welcome back.
- 0:40Thank you for those that have been here.
- 0:43Why are you laughing dude? I don't know dude, just
- 0:45seriously. No, no dude, of course.
- 0:49But the dude Tasers. No, no, absolutely the welcome.
- 0:52God take it very seriously. Well, for those that have been
- 0:56listening, thank you for those that are a new welcome.
- 0:58And we're going to start off with a prayer.
- 1:01Lord, thank you so much for allowing us to be here.
- 1:04Guide us and lead us into the absolute truth.
- 1:06For there's no one greater than you.
- 1:08All glory goes to you. Amen.
- 1:11Amen. All right, bro.
- 1:17What do you got today? No, I mean something in my mind.
- 1:20Yeah, go for it. Maybe this might be a short
- 1:22episode, but or maybe not, I don't know.
- 1:26Here we go, all right. There's a Bible verse that a lot
- 1:35of people miss, like they don't really know what what it really
- 1:38means and it has to do with Paul.
- 1:42OK, what about Paul? Like I know people misuse his
- 1:45quotes a lot. Like, for example, Philippians
- 1:47413. I can do all things through
- 1:49Christ, which strengthens me. We talked about this and then
- 1:52people use like sports and stuff like that, you know, But Paul is
- 1:56speaking about spiritual stuff. I'm speaking about when Paul
- 2:02says, wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this?
- 2:07What is that chapter Chapter 6 I.
- 2:09Think it's chapter No it's Chapter 7 I think.
- 2:13Or is it chapter 6? Forgot which one it was.
- 2:19I really. Yeah.
- 2:20Anyways, yeah, I see what you're saying.
- 2:22Yeah, you, I mean you keep talking about it while I find
- 2:24it. No, it's just that like if you
- 2:27read it, you really sit down and read it.
- 2:31Paul speaks about like the law and you know, he, he used to be
- 2:37like, you know, like a Pharisee. So, you know, he used to like,
- 2:40like study the law, live by the law, all this stuff, right?
- 2:43And he says, you know, the law is good.
- 2:45You know, the law points, you know, if it wasn't because of
- 2:47the law, then I wouldn't know that to do this is bad.
- 2:50So the law is good, yes, but he's like, but that's not really
- 2:54like what helps you? It persecutes you.
- 2:57What really helps you is Christ. So I don't know if you've you've
- 3:02found it or not. No, I have not found it.
- 3:04I think it's. I know it.
- 3:04I know it. It's a nine or eight.
- 3:06I'm pretty sure it's a nine or eight, but like more towards the
- 3:10end all. Right.
- 3:12Yeah, OK. Where he talks about that what I
- 3:16don't want to do, I do and that what I want to do I do.
- 3:18You know, I've seen a lot of people misuse that man.
- 3:21So many people misuse that in. What way?
- 3:25Like they think that when you come to Christ, OK, you come to
- 3:31Christ isn't that and you're still wretched.
- 3:34That is not what Paul is saying right there.
- 3:36He's not saying that. He was like, he says, thanks be
- 3:40through Christ I can serve the law of sin in one hand and the
- 3:45law of God in the other hand. Chapters.
- 3:46Chapter 7. It's Chapter 7, right towards
- 3:49the end, right? Yeah, it's Chapter 7 here, verse
- 3:5424. Let me just quote it, okay?
- 4:00Wretched man that I am, who will set me free from this body of
- 4:04this death question mark? Right, Okay, okay, but read,
- 4:08read, read before like few verses before that.
- 4:13Like we're talking about the. Law and all that stuff.
- 4:15So because I, I really do want to clarify this, because it's,
- 4:18this is getting out of hand the way people are using it.
- 4:20In my opinion, it's almost like when you come to Christ, you're
- 4:22still wretched. No, that's not true.
- 4:24OK, That's not true at all. So before we read in, in, in
- 4:28context, he writes to the, to the Romans, to the, to the
- 4:33church in Rome or the smart congregation in Rome.
- 4:38And he talks about what you just said right now about the law
- 4:42being under grace, right? All these things.
- 4:45How if you set your things, your mind on things of the flesh,
- 4:50that's chapter 8. But he talks about all these
- 4:52things. Now I, I think I know why you
- 4:56brought this up. Obviously, Paul wasn't a perfect
- 5:00being. No, definitely not.
- 5:02No. And because believers look up to
- 5:05him doesn't mean that they're idolizing him.
- 5:07He's just an example. Yeah, I think.
- 5:10You know what I mean, He. Left us a great example of what
- 5:12we should be doing, you know. So in Romans Chapter 7, right
- 5:18verse, I'll start from 14. For we know that the law is
- 5:21spiritual. Yes.
- 5:22All right. See, that's so.
- 5:23Yeah. Amen.
- 5:24Amen. But I am fleshly, meaning this
- 5:27body is flesh. But keep in mind what he is
- 5:29saying, not that. Not just the flesh.
- 5:32Mm hmm. The flesh and his spirit,
- 5:33because the spirit is dead, are essentially one, right?
- 5:37Alright, so keep that in mind. So by fleshly, that's what he's
- 5:40referring to, Sold into bondage, to sin.
- 5:45Now he says he was sold. Right to bondage.
- 5:51Where and where did this even happen to being sold?
- 5:54To bondage? To sin and by bondage to sin
- 5:57doesn't mean sin itself sin. It doesn't mean your sinful
- 6:00acts, but sin itself. What causes you for your sinful
- 6:03acts. That's mastering you, right?
- 6:05Right. Right.
- 6:05He talks about this in chapter 6.
- 6:07He does verse chapter 5. Now I'm remembering.
- 6:09Yeah, yeah. Went through the book of Romans.
- 6:14He was sold to bondage, to sin, meaning right, sold.
- 6:17It was a transaction done not by monetary things, but the the
- 6:25serpent sold Eve on this idea that you shall be like God and
- 6:32all this. Right?
- 6:33Right. So the serpent kind of
- 6:36redirected her direction to rest the mark.
- 6:38Yeah. So in that from that moment,
- 6:41he's referring to soul to bondage, OK.
- 6:44For I do not understand what I'm what I'm doing for I am not
- 6:49practicing what I want to do. But I do the very thing I hate.
- 6:53Now, remember, he's talking about this in bondage to sin,
- 6:56Yes, that in mind, Yes. And he's saying that the law is
- 6:59spiritual. So the law is spiritual.
- 7:01He says it's a good thing this is happening right now.
- 7:03Right, right. But you are also sold to bondage
- 7:06to sin. This is that's all that's
- 7:07happening right one to the left and one to the right.
- 7:10It's just you between both, right?
- 7:13Understand what's going on that what I want to do.
- 7:18However, if I do, but if I do the very thing I do not want to
- 7:22do, I agree with the law. Do you see what I'm saying?
- 7:24The law, which is spiritual, that the law is good, you see.
- 7:29Yeah. But now no longer am I the one
- 7:31doing it, but sin that dwells in me.
- 7:34For I know the good does not dwell in me.
- 7:37That is in my flesh. So the flesh is a receptor.
- 7:41You in there resistes or does right.
- 7:45For the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is
- 7:49not. For the good that I want I do
- 7:53not do, but I practice the very evil that I don't, I do not
- 7:56want. But if I do the very thing I do
- 7:59not want, I do the no longer the the one doing it, but sin that
- 8:05dwells in me. I find then a principle that
- 8:10evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good in the
- 8:14inner person. But I see the difference of law
- 8:17in the parts of my body waging war against the law of my mind
- 8:22and making me a prisoner of the law of sin, the law which is the
- 8:27of the body, my body parts. Wretched man.
- 8:31OK, so mind you remember the law is spiritual.
- 8:38And he also understands there's a bondage to sin, right?
- 8:42He explains that interaction between what I want to do, what
- 8:46I don't want to do, and that what I want to do, I do, and
- 8:48that what I want to do I don't do.
- 8:50Right. Right.
- 8:50And if I do this, the law then fulfills itself.
- 8:53And if I don't do that, then I notice there's this evil that's
- 8:57present. He, he just clear as water.
- 9:00Yeah. I mean, you you really can't,
- 9:02right? Like, you know, misinterpret
- 9:04this. That's why he says, wretched
- 9:07man. Wretched man.
- 9:08Yeah, because he's like, oh man. Yeah.
- 9:11So he understands there's an inner person in there versus the
- 9:14flesh. That inner person is waging war.
- 9:17So he does talk about these Galatians.
- 9:19Your spirit, that's dead and your flesh, right?
- 9:23They have to be contrary to each other, right?
- 9:26Yeah, because when the Spirit becomes alive, it's going to
- 9:29want to do the things of the Spirit, right, And by the things
- 9:33of the Spirit referring to the Holy Spirit.
- 9:35Yes, absolutely. That's why he talks about
- 9:37keeping step by the Spirit. So he's talking about someone
- 9:40here who is a believer who abides by deadworks.
- 9:46Yeah. Hebrew 616 that he talks about
- 9:49that these are fundamental things, but elementary.
- 9:51It's not saying that they're bad.
- 9:52Remember, he says, the law is good.
- 9:54Yes, it's spiritual. OK, so this he's also describing
- 9:57something because remember in Romans he speaks about in the
- 10:00first few chapters how there is also a universal law that we
- 10:04know, right, Right. That there is no excuse that we
- 10:07wouldn't know that there is a creator, right?
- 10:11Yeah. So even we know, right?
- 10:13OK, he talks about that, yes, so.
- 10:15He's pointing out here the interaction between you and you.
- 10:20Yeah, right this battle, Right this war.
- 10:22Yeah, this law, yeah, that is spiritual.
- 10:25And then this bondage, that is insane.
- 10:27Now and you and you. Now you can.
- 10:29No, I was gonna say like, also like I, I'm pretty sure also
- 10:31Paul talks about like when the law comes, it like it's like a
- 10:35flashlight to your sin. Like it points.
- 10:37Like it makes sin become alive in your life.
- 10:40Say that again, like yes, the law is there because it
- 10:45basically when before the law you were dead.
- 10:48What? Was it that sin was like was
- 10:53like not alive? Like, yeah, so, so, so before
- 10:56the law, sin was not alive. Right, it was just there by.
- 10:59It meaning by that it meaning it wasn't visible to you.
- 11:03Yes, exactly. The law comes it makes
- 11:05invisible, but there's a caveat. You you caveat, you get
- 11:08destroyed. Yes, because the law kills you
- 11:11like well, Paul speaks. About it, too.
- 11:12Yeah. Now the law there makes it
- 11:14alive. Alive in the aspect of that.
- 11:16It's visible now. Now you die.
- 11:18Yes. Because it wasn't alive.
- 11:19Meaning it wasn't visible. It wasn't visible.
- 11:21You couldn't see it. The law couldn't, didn't point
- 11:23it. You were only determining it by
- 11:25your conscience. Right, right.
- 11:27Right, yes, you know, So there was a sense of naivety.
- 11:31Yes, naivety. That's a good way to.
- 11:33Put it but now that the law is there, which he says is
- 11:36spiritual, which is good because it does its job.
- 11:39Right. It points out to sin.
- 11:41It makes it a live, meaning now it's visible, yes, but you get
- 11:44destroyed. You do, yes.
- 11:47And we want that. That's.
- 11:49Because that's his function. Yes, that's his job, but you?
- 11:51Cannot seek justification by that.
- 11:53No, it is through Christ, right? He talks about this in I believe
- 11:56chapter 6 right if I'm not mistaken?
- 11:59Right. If you try to seek righteousness
- 12:01through the law, you pretty much become like a hypocrite.
- 12:03That's. What's happening?
- 12:04Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he talks about what's going
- 12:07on in this inside here. So if you do find yourself, you
- 12:12know, in that state, then you are wretched.
- 12:17Yes, I agree. Absolutely.
- 12:19You are. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 12:21If you're trying to do this with your own strengths.
- 12:22Like you are No, no, without Christ, you're.
- 12:24Wretched without Christ? Yes, yes, absolutely.
- 12:26So that's why it says the next following thanks be to God.
- 12:32Say one more time. Say.
- 12:33Verse 25 of of of verse 7 thanks be to God, here's the vicious
- 12:40cycle that's being broken or understood or put to balance if.
- 12:44You will, yeah. Thanks be to God, through Jesus
- 12:48Christ our Lord, through through your peace, your piercing,
- 12:53through who are you abiding under, right under grace, right
- 12:56through. Thanks be to God through Jesus
- 13:00Christ our Lord. So then on the hand of my eye,
- 13:04myself with my mind am serving the law of God.
- 13:08That's the law that's spiritual on one hand, but on the other
- 13:13with the my flesh of the law of sin, bondage to sin.
- 13:16Now, through Christ, these two things are not a problem.
- 13:24Right, right. Absolutely.
- 13:25Thanks be through. Christ through Christ though,
- 13:28right? It is through Christ.
- 13:30Yes, Amen, I'll read. It one more time, thanks be to
- 13:33God through Jesus our Lord. So then on one hand, I myself
- 13:39with my mind am serving the law of God, right?
- 13:44He is serving. The law of God.
- 13:48In service to it, right on one hand, but on the other, ready in
- 13:56servitude with my flesh, the law of sin.
- 14:00I see now give us a little example of the law of God like
- 14:05spiritual. Christ.
- 14:09Christ, Right? Yes.
- 14:10He's the one that can. So break you from those.
- 14:12The law is spiritual, right? Uh huh.
- 14:14So that means that when Christ speaks to the Pharisees and to
- 14:19the Sadducees and to other Zealots, they're there and tells
- 14:24them about the law, right? They know the law of the outer
- 14:28part. Right.
- 14:30Well, if I don't move this bottle, I didn't sin, but Christ
- 14:33is. But if you moved it in your
- 14:35heart, you have already sinned. Right, right, right.
- 14:37Yes, exactly. So what is within?
- 14:39So it's. From within there's an inner.
- 14:41Person, I agree. Just because I moved the just
- 14:43because like I want to move the bottle.
- 14:45Just an example. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 14:47But. I didn't move it right.
- 14:49No, yeah. I didn't sin be cool because I
- 14:51thought it, but I didn't move it.
- 14:53Christ is going further. Further, Yeah.
- 14:55You sinned already? Yes.
- 14:57I mean, that's a bottle. Right.
- 14:58No, You're using an example. You're using the example of the
- 15:01idolatry, right? Right.
- 15:02Yeah. Well, if I don't commit it well,
- 15:04but you thought it, yes, you made it alive inside, right?
- 15:08Right. It's like what James talks
- 15:09about, too, about when it's conceived in the heart and it
- 15:11gives birth to sin, you know? Yeah.
- 15:13All that stuff. Yeah.
- 15:13That that very action right there, the law of sin took
- 15:18place. Yeah, right here.
- 15:20On the other hand, the law of sin, that flesh that was
- 15:23receiving that information receptor to want to go a mate to
- 15:28want to go do that that was happening.
- 15:32But since you know the law that it's wrong, you just said, well,
- 15:35if I don't do that action, right, right.
- 15:37But you did it in your heart. Right.
- 15:40Yes, exactly. That is what he describes, that
- 15:44what I want to do I don't do, and what I don't want to do, I
- 15:46do. That friction, that tension,
- 15:50that resistance, right? And that it folds into each
- 15:53other that the law is spiritual, but you're also bondage to sin.
- 15:59So you can, you, you can't essentially like serve the law
- 16:03of, of God in the mind. You can't, You can't.
- 16:06Yeah, ignore. And you can appropriately break
- 16:10the bondage to sin because you're trying to do it on your
- 16:12own. Right, right, right.
- 16:14So you are wretched, yes. So that's what I mean by the
- 16:16law, right? By the law.
- 16:18We're not talking about like certain rules.
- 16:19There is a law. A law doesn't necessarily mean
- 16:22rules. A law is.
- 16:23You're making something factual. Yeah, Right.
- 16:26There's gravity. Yes.
- 16:27The laws of physics, Right. There's just certain things that
- 16:30this is how the world works, right?
- 16:33Right. Here comes someone and defies
- 16:35those laws. It transcends those laws.
- 16:39That means it doesn't abide by those laws.
- 16:41Yeah, exactly. Because that person is greater
- 16:45than these laws of physics, meaning factual things that
- 16:49supposed to happen, this battle falls.
- 16:51It falls. Right, Right.
- 16:52Yep. Right.
- 16:53Yeah. Christ transcends those laws.
- 16:57Right, and goes deeper than. We stay under him, right?
- 17:01And now we are above the law now.
- 17:03Right. We are above Scripture, what
- 17:05Romans calls it. He calls it Scripture because
- 17:07that's what they considered the law was scripture.
- 17:09Yeah, yeah, yeah. Above it, below Grace.
- 17:13Absolutely. So you can see it in one hand.
- 17:16And then in one hand. The other yes in between.
- 17:19Exactly. Absolutely.
- 17:21So you're not no longer under the law.
- 17:25You're above it. Being above it doesn't mean it's
- 17:30garbage. No.
- 17:32Yeah, if anything, we uphold it. You now uphold it, but it is
- 17:34through Christ. Yes.
- 17:36And what law are we talking about?
- 17:38Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
- 17:41Love. No, no, no.
- 17:42Love God with all your heart minded soul and strength and
- 17:44love your neighbor as this holds, right?
- 17:47The what? The law.
- 17:48The law. The law is factual, visible,
- 17:51right? The law meaning reality.
- 17:54If you are of mine, you have these fruits, right?
- 17:58And if you are of mine, you develop.
- 17:59These fruits are fruits of the Spirit, because your mind are
- 18:02set on the things of the Spirit. That's law, it's factual.
- 18:06Amen. But how can you be above the law
- 18:11and still bondage to sin? Makes no sense you.
- 18:14Can't. You can't.
- 18:15No, absolutely not. So when you come to Christ.
- 18:21So when you come to Christ, sin is not disappearing.
- 18:26No, it's not. No, no, no, no, no.
- 18:28It's just visible. And when you're born, you're not
- 18:30born as a Sinner. Are you kidding me?
- 18:33No, you inherit the ability this knowledge that Adam and Eve had
- 18:39passed down. Could it?
- 18:41Be we developed this later. But you're not born as a Sinner.
- 18:45No, don't be ridiculous. How can you be born as a Sinner?
- 18:49A Sinner would imply the one who commits the Sinner bond slave to
- 18:53it. The child is now born mortal
- 18:57because we're not in eternity having the nutrients of a tree
- 19:01of life. Yeah, that would essentially
- 19:04give us the the sustenance to extend our life.
- 19:07Get a tree of life. The fruit of the tree of life.
- 19:09Like, I don't, right? I understand.
- 19:12No, no, Exactly, exactly. You don't have access to that,
- 19:15so therefore we die with another thing, knowing the good and bad.
- 19:20Yep, that's the state we're in. Right.
- 19:24That's it. Yes.
- 19:26That's it. Nothing more.
- 19:27Nothing. Less exactly, yeah.
- 19:29A conscience prior to the law would determine what was good
- 19:32and right. But then this stiff necked
- 19:36people that came out of Egypt needed to have a certain amount
- 19:41of 10 commandments and then Moses, through the discernment
- 19:45of God had to elaborate for them because they couldn't
- 19:48understand. Right, right.
- 19:51Right. This is why Jesus said Moses
- 19:52wrote these things, because of your hardening of your hearts.
- 19:55Although that was in reference to, you know, marriage.
- 20:02It's still the same concept. Yeah.
- 20:04That he wrote these things because of the hardening of
- 20:06their hearts. So the law is spiritual, meaning
- 20:10that factual facts, reality, right of of what conscience can
- 20:15determine is a good thing. It's spiritual.
- 20:20Amen. It is, but we're.
- 20:22Bondage to sin. And by that it means this sin in
- 20:25Hebrew just means missing the mark.
- 20:28More accurate translation. Yeah.
- 20:31Just means sin. Yeah.
- 20:33So what that means is you're supposed to be doing this, but
- 20:36you're doing that. In other words, you're missing
- 20:38the what? You're missing the mark.
- 20:39You're. Missing the mark.
- 20:41Now if you're bondage to sin, that means you're bondage.
- 20:44You're a slave to always missing the mark.
- 20:46Yep, that's what I'm saying. Exactly.
- 20:50Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
- 20:50So then the law is there so that you see so that when you miss
- 20:54the mark, you then can see that what you just did was wrong, but
- 20:59it killed you anyways. Exactly.
- 21:01OK, yeah, through Christ you can uphold.
- 21:09You're above it. Yes.
- 21:12And you won't miss the mark. Amen.
- 21:15You're not mastered by it. You're not a bondage to it.
- 21:17No, you're not. So if through Christ, whoever is
- 21:20listening, you are through Christ, how are you, wretched
- 21:22man? Right, explain that to me like
- 21:26that makes no sense. He explains before he says
- 21:29wretched man. Yeah, he yeah, exactly because.
- 21:33He says wretched man because there is no hope.
- 21:37And what is that? That being bond, bondage to sin
- 21:41while trying to embrace the law which is spiritual, makes you
- 21:47wretched. It does.
- 21:49You're misfiring all the time. You think you're alive, walking,
- 21:52thinking you're alive, right, right, right.
- 21:54You're still dead. You're.
- 21:55Still dead? Yeah.
- 21:56Now mind you, Moses and all of these, they believe and they
- 22:00have faith 100% and they understood it.
- 22:04David understood it. Samuel understood it.
- 22:06Yeah, Solomon at the end understood it.
- 22:10They understood how beautiful scriptures.
- 22:11Are yeah right. But they also understood that
- 22:14there was this mystery in which he also points out.
- 22:17Right, right. This, this, this.
- 22:19Inside the evil is present. What is that?
- 22:22That he considers evil that is present in sin.
- 22:24Yeah. Why is it evil?
- 22:25Because it essentially impulses you to miss the mark.
- 22:30That's why it's evil. Because you have the capacity to
- 22:32do good, but you don't want to do it.
- 22:36Exactly. So I don't know if that that.
- 22:40No, no, you pretty much said it all man.
- 22:42Like that's exactly how how I see it man.
- 22:47I know there's people online, you know, they do a great job,
- 22:51you know, talking to the youth, that's great.
- 22:56But to to to come to a conclusion that that he spoke,
- 23:03he said that he was wretched because of his thorn of his
- 23:06flesh. And that that thorn was a
- 23:08temptation, but somehow simultaneously pain and and and
- 23:12trauma. How does that even work?
- 23:15Right? Like it's one or the other.
- 23:16Yeah. Like you think he was desiring
- 23:18that thorn. What do you mean?
- 23:20No, he. Was not.
- 23:21And just because he had the thorn, he then thought he was
- 23:23wretched. He understood what it meant to
- 23:27be wretched. Yeah.
- 23:29Right, because of what he did. But then, thanks be to Christ,
- 23:33right? Thanks be through Christ, yes
- 23:35right, I can do this one hand the.
- 23:37Other one. Now we don't know what that
- 23:38thorn is, of course. Yeah, we can talk about it,
- 23:43conclude to whatever, and that's a different conversation.
- 23:46But when he speaks about wretched Mandarin, it's because
- 23:48he understood the difference when he was without Christ
- 23:53versus when he's with Christ. Right.
- 23:55Yes, exactly. There's a difference.
- 23:59He explains it right there in this place.
- 24:01Think of it this way, when the Father said I forgive you to the
- 24:04world, that very action, OK, let me say it this way.
- 24:10I say I forgive you that that phrase itself, I forgive you.
- 24:17It's like God with the brush on a paint canvas painting Christ's
- 24:24death. That's how he says I forgive
- 24:26you. Christ is the Word, so he
- 24:29essentially executes it. Yes.
- 24:33Christ comes back and the breath of life comes among us, the
- 24:38Spirit of the Lord, right? Yeah.
- 24:41So that's what's happening. If we don't, if we can't, if it
- 24:47is not through Christ, OK, you will be bonded to sin, right?
- 24:54You have to pick one. Slavery.
- 24:55He does talk about this. Yeah, either a slave to sin or.
- 24:59A slave to righteousness. Yes.
- 25:01He's not. I've said this multiple times in
- 25:03other episodes. He's not going to just break
- 25:05your chains. You're free now.
- 25:08He's not going to let you roam freely.
- 25:11No. Oh, oh, you're free now.
- 25:13It's like, oh, thank you. OK.
- 25:17You trusted that I would break your chains.
- 25:19Yes. Go ahead and pick up your cross.
- 25:23You went from one bondage to the next.
- 25:25Bondage of righteousness, yes. And now since you're in bondage
- 25:29of righteousness, the law, you can serve the law.
- 25:34What does it say there? In one hand that can serve the
- 25:38law of God, and the other hand that can.
- 25:40Serve I myself and the mind, and serving the law of God.
- 25:43Yes. And on the other hand, the other
- 25:47hand, with the flesh, the law of sin, what's the law of God,
- 25:53Christ, what's the law of sin? Morality.
- 25:57You cannot do that on your own. No.
- 26:00It has to be through Christ. Amen, because he is what renews
- 26:03you inside. How do you know when it's a law?
- 26:07If you say if you're going above, let's say you're driving
- 26:11on a road 7080 mph, there was never a speed limit sign.
- 26:16Never. So you were just You knew when
- 26:20to slow down, you knew when to speed.
- 26:22Yeah, she could. Yeah, You could recognize your
- 26:24environment, right? Yeah.
- 26:26You knew that if people were around, you would slow down.
- 26:28That's without the speed limit sign, right?
- 26:30Right. Do you understand how this is
- 26:31working? No, absolutely.
- 26:32Before the law, if you will, you would slow down.
- 26:35You would speed up, people would pass.
- 26:36You know what, to slow down all this stuff.
- 26:39But then there's a law that's passed anybody who speeds more
- 26:44than 55. Well, yeah, I don't know.
- 26:46Take your license away for a year for example Speed limit.
- 26:49They put a crosswalk traffic like everything so you can't
- 26:54speed anymore at 6070 right? Because there's a law now.
- 27:00There is a law that says you can't do that now it causes you.
- 27:05You now see it. You see now the danger.
- 27:08You see what you weren't seeing before.
- 27:12It becomes alive now. It becomes alive.
- 27:14Visual, yeah. But now it kills you because now
- 27:17you want to do it, but you can't.
- 27:19And when you do it, you get penalized.
- 27:22You understand? 100%.
- 27:23Do you understand now? Now you want to do it, but you
- 27:26can't now, right? So that's why Thanks B.
- 27:29So you want to do it, but you can't, but you do it anyways.
- 27:33That way you're not supposed to do and you get penalized for it,
- 27:35right? That's what's happening now.
- 27:37That's what's happening. Exactly.
- 27:40That's why you're a wretched. Exactly.
- 27:43That's why when you come to Christ bro, it's how can you say
- 27:49you're wretched? You can't that.
- 27:50Makes no sense you're. Not you're not any longer.
- 27:53You're not. It makes no sense to me when 1
- 27:55says, wretched man, that I am after Christ.
- 27:59That makes no sense if I'm to be very honest.
- 28:01Like I know Johnny Chang means well and I'm sure he's reached
- 28:04out to so many people and has baptized other.
- 28:07But in this case man, if you ever get to listen to this as a
- 28:10brother in Christ, you are off. You're so wrong.
- 28:14Yeah. And that's unfortunate.
- 28:18Yeah, you're wretched because you're not through Christ.
- 28:24Amen. The moment you come through
- 28:26Christ, your spirit becomes alive.
- 28:30Exactly your spirit becomes alive.
- 28:32You're now under grace above the law.
- 28:34So now your justification. It is through Christ now.
- 28:36Yes, let the law do. Let the law fulfill itself.
- 28:40Amen. All right.
- 28:42And what is that? That it kills you and it will
- 28:44kill you and and you can't do anything about it.
- 28:47Exactly. Let it do it's.
- 28:48Job. Let it do it's job.
- 28:49Yes, exactly. And by that it means you will
- 28:53constantly want to, but you have to resist it.
- 28:57You are under Christ now. Sin doesn't just disappear.
- 29:03No, doesn't mean you're exempt from it, no.
- 29:05And like I said one more time, sin just means missing the mark
- 29:10and we can go on a deeper conversation about that.
- 29:12Yes. About what sin is.
- 29:16But once you're with Christ, your chains are broken.
- 29:19Yeah, exactly. You can now.
- 29:20Serve the law of God in one hand with your mind, and on the other
- 29:26hand the law of the flesh, the law of sin, and the other hand
- 29:31through who? Through Christ, exactly?
- 29:33Without being a slave. But now you're a slave to
- 29:37righteousness. Amen.
- 29:39Amen. I don't know if that makes
- 29:40sense. No, no, no, no.
- 29:42It makes so much sense. Absolutely.
- 29:45So yeah, it's simple really to understand.
- 29:48Yeah. You know, it's sad to say that
- 29:51these teachings, according to what Paul says, is these are
- 29:54just basic teachings. Yeah, and he says this.
- 29:56I'm talking to you like babes. Like babies.
- 29:58Yeah, exactly. So even then we have a hard
- 30:00time. But glory to God, that's
- 30:05beautiful if anything. Like, yeah, when you come to
- 30:09Christ. You're not wretched.
- 30:10You're not. Wretched.
- 30:11There is a process, Yeah. You come to Christ, you become
- 30:15alive. Yeah, because there's, there's
- 30:16another part, I think in Peter or somewhere else, I forgot
- 30:19where, but it talks about like, you know, like don't pay
- 30:22attention to the outside because the outside is being like, you
- 30:24know, it's being destroyed, it's being rotten, you know, pay
- 30:27attention to like what's what's inside.
- 30:30It's being renewed. It's become something new.
- 30:34So coming to Christ, you are a new creature.
- 30:39Remember, there's a reason why it says that in Scripture.
- 30:43You are a new creature. The old has passed, the new has
- 30:47come. Yeah, the new has come.
- 30:48Yes, the new has come. All right, So thanks.
- 30:53Be through Christ now. Now.
- 30:54Serve. Amen.
- 30:56Right, that servitude doesn't come to his full completion.
- 30:59No, you're always. It's a process.
- 31:01It's a process. You become alive, you got to
- 31:03walk step by step with the Holy Spirit.
- 31:05You got to set your minds and your things on the Spirit,
- 31:07right? Repentance means to turn away,
- 31:11yes, but towards God. Amen.
- 31:13And that also implies that you have to transcend your mind
- 31:16simultaneously. There's no two types of
- 31:18repentance. I don't understand where this is
- 31:21coming from. And that's a different
- 31:22conversation. And mind you, unless I'm going
- 31:25to be brutally honest, I know why you came up with this.
- 31:27You, I know that I shared a real with you or two or whatever.
- 31:33Yeah. And when I showed it to you, you
- 31:35were just like, stomped. Yeah, cuz I was like.
- 31:38What's going on? Yeah, yeah, no, cuz like do
- 31:42Christians like, forget that there's a fruit of the Spirit
- 31:45called long-suffering? I'm sorry, but when you abstain
- 31:49from sin, you want to do it. You're going to suffer.
- 31:52You're going to suffer. And that's a good sign.
- 31:54Really good sign. Not in the way in which Johnny
- 31:55Chang says that you're struggling.
- 31:57That means you're no, no, no. If you're struggling, you're
- 31:59wretched, man. That's what you are, exactly.
- 32:02But if you're suffering, it's because you're under grace and
- 32:04you're above the law, suffering meaning like you want to, but
- 32:11you're not going to. So what he describes here is
- 32:14that what I want to do I don't do, and that what I don't want
- 32:18to do I end up doing. Yeah, but with.
- 32:20Christ, that what I want to do. You're going to do it.
- 32:24Yes, and that what I don't want to do, You're right, I'm not
- 32:27going to do it. I'll give you an example, trying
- 32:34to use an example here. Anyway, let's say someone who
- 32:39was addicted to something, they come to Christ.
- 32:42They love God so much. They became this new person.
- 32:46Genuinely, he would remember the things that he would want to do,
- 32:50and it's coming as a wretched man, he doesn't want to do it,
- 32:57but he ends up doing it. Yeah, through Christ now, he
- 32:59says. That's what we.
- 33:01Used to do no longer. Well, I want to do it, but I'm
- 33:07not going to do it. Yes, you are no longer mastered
- 33:11by that exactly. I will not do it. 100%, 100% and
- 33:19that is evidence of you having faith in Christ.
- 33:22And that's, and that's what we spoke about the impulse, yes,
- 33:25that when in Christ, when the flesh remembers that you're
- 33:28like, no, there's a resistance. Yeah, 100%.
- 33:31Now you are in agreement, because now he says thanks me
- 33:34through Christ, now I can. Now I can, yes.
- 33:37Amen. Now I can do both.
- 33:39Exactly. Amen without Christ.
- 33:41Nah, without Christ. Then you're going to be wanting
- 33:44to do it and you don't do it that way.
- 33:46You don't want to do. You end up doing that, you're
- 33:47going to be doing that. Exactly.
- 33:49US, then you are wretched. 100% you are wretched.
- 33:52Through Christ, you're not wretched.
- 33:56And if in fact you do believe and you have faith in that, what
- 34:01is untangible, right? You're not going to want to do
- 34:05it. Amen.
- 34:08Amen, 100%. I'm full agreement with you.
- 34:12Thanks be through Christ. And you know why?
- 34:14Because James Ford says submit to God and resist.
- 34:17Yes. There's a resistance where is
- 34:19that all that what I want to do I don't do, and that what I
- 34:22don't want to do anything What Paulsa.
- 34:25That means there's no resistance.
- 34:27Exactly. That means you're just giving up
- 34:29because there's this evil at present.
- 34:30Because there is. You're right.
- 34:32But with Christ, submit to God. Yes, exactly.
- 34:36Then you can resist. You can, because when there's
- 34:39good, there's always bad. And that is temptation, meaning
- 34:42that what you want to do, but you know that it feels good, you
- 34:45do it anyways. Temptation feels good, it does
- 34:47OK, there's memory to it. Unfortunately, you do remember,
- 34:50right? Your memory is just erased.
- 34:52Of course, you, you undergo a process of unlearning and
- 34:55learning and unlearning. But you're under grace, Yes, and
- 34:59you're above Scripture. Exactly, exactly.
- 35:03Wow. Well, I think we covered it all
- 35:06for today, unless you have something else to say.
- 35:08No, I just whoever listens just read your scripture.
- 35:11I mean he reads it, but his sense of theology and whereas
- 35:16it's bases basing it off, it's trying to fit it, it just
- 35:19doesn't work, it collapse. Yeah, like backfires.
- 35:23And and if you don't read it, you're going to agree to it.
- 35:27Exactly no, because you know someone that's not well-rounded
- 35:30in Scripture. Or reading, but he's
- 35:32well-rounded in Scripture. Yeah, he is, I guess, like, yes,
- 35:36someone that's, that's new. I mean, his words sound very
- 35:39pleasant and they sound, they sound like they make sense.
- 35:42He's a brother in Christ, No 100.
- 35:43Percent No, no, no, I that's one thing I don't want people to
- 35:46mistaken like no, I know he's a brother in Christ and I know he
- 35:49loves God and I know God loves him too, but it's just that the
- 35:53way his a way of thinking is what really throws me off.
- 35:58But like I said, I know he's a brother in Christ.
- 36:01But yeah, for those that have been listening, thank you so
- 36:04much. We're going to end it up in
- 36:05prayer. Amen.
- 36:08Father, thank you so much for forgiving us.
- 36:13And the moment you spoke that everything came to pass and your
- 36:18son died for us, for the forgiveness of our sins.
- 36:22And once we were under a conscience and then the once
- 36:26under the law. Now we're above it because we're
- 36:28under grace, we're under the law of God, which your law is your
- 36:33word, your mouth, which is your son.
- 36:37And that is who we're under. And we are thankful and for this
- 36:42opportunity to speak about and keep blessing the lives of those
- 36:45out there in social media trying to guide those.
- 36:47And they mean well. We pray for Johnny Chang as
- 36:50well, that you also keep guiding in.
- 36:51And if there's ever an opportunity, you know, to have a
- 36:55conversation, it'd be welcome. And iron sharpens iron.
- 37:00And those who are listening, take into account that if you're
- 37:03in Christ, if you're through Christ, if you're under grace,
- 37:06you are not wretched, right? And all those listening, that
- 37:11may be two or three, keep abiding, stay strong, keep your
- 37:15eyes on the Kingdom of heaven. Till next one guys.