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The Season with Peter Schrager: Mike LaFleur · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, This is
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  Speaker 1: Peter Schreger. He goes into the season with Peter Schrager.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing this on a Tuesday morning. Very unique weekend
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  Speaker 1: where you had two wildcard rounds on Saturday, two Wildcard
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  Speaker 1: round games on Sunday, and then two Wildcard rounds on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: We're fresh on the air right now on Tuesday morning,
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  Speaker 1: and the Eagles season ended in complete this array. This
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  Speaker 1: was a team that was ten and one at one point,
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  Speaker 1: and they fired their defensive coordinator. Well, let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: they removed him from play calling duties, which in so
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  Speaker 1: many words means get out of the chair and you're
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  Speaker 1: being removed and replaced. That's a team that all season long,
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  Speaker 1: we had talked about Super Bowl expects, the weight of
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  Speaker 1: those expectations, the local media, all of these things that
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  Speaker 1: were hanging in the in the atmosphere, and yet they
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  Speaker 1: were winning early on and they were resilient early on.
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  Speaker 1: I could tell you on this podcast the amount of
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  Speaker 1: joy that people take fans, some people in the league
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  Speaker 1: of seeing things end this way for that Philly team
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  Speaker 1: is almost unseemly and they're they're not villains individually. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think anyone looks at Jalen Hurts and look at
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  Speaker 1: him as a villain, or anyone looks at the recently
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  Speaker 1: retired Jason Kelsey of the Gavillain. I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: looks at Nick Sirianni is like, I don't like him.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a certain bravado about that Eagles team. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe it does start with Sirianni when he's mean mugging
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  Speaker 1: the cameras during the Giants wild card gay or yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Divisional round game last year, or after the Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: win when he's in the tunnel and he's got some
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  Speaker 1: comments for fans and it was captured on film. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's because of Big Dom and you see this big guy,
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  Speaker 1: and you see Ted Rath, who's their athletic trainer, who's
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  Speaker 1: going wild on the sideline. Maybe it's because of the
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  Speaker 1: way everyone responded to their draft, where you know, they
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  Speaker 1: drafted Jalen Carter and they drafted Nolan Smith, and they
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  Speaker 1: got Keelee Ringo and they traded for Andre Swift and
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  Speaker 1: everyone just said, well, the Eagles dominated the draft A
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  Speaker 1: plus everyone else is in second place and beyond, and
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  Speaker 1: then you have a day earlier the Cowboys lows switch.
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  Speaker 1: If you talk about how is it shouting Freud? Shoten Freud,
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  Speaker 1: shot in Freud? If you want to talk about shot
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  Speaker 1: of Freud? How about the Cowboys losing? They were down
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven to nothing against the Packers on Sunday and
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  Speaker 1: you would think it was a party online fans and
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys haters and then media members going just in on it,
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  Speaker 1: and then there's questions of everything there that one goes from, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: is Mike McCarthy ever going to get past the division
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  Speaker 1: around let alone the wildcreft? They win twelve games every year,
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  Speaker 1: but they can't win playoff games? Like is this the
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  Speaker 1: guy to coach the team? And then we had a
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  Speaker 1: really good conversation on Good Morning Football. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty rational and sensible. Do you pay Dak Prescott
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  Speaker 1: sixty million dollars because that's going to be the going
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  Speaker 1: rate he's going into the final year of his contract. Traditionally,
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks get paid before the final year. You don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go into the season as a pure free agent
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  Speaker 1: and have that looming, and Dak has earned it. Every
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  Speaker 1: step of the way this regular season, and then the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs come and for the third straight year, in the
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  Speaker 1: biggest moment, Dak isn't there or doesn't have the game.
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  Speaker 1: And this case, it wasn't just on Dak. This was
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  Speaker 1: a colossal failure and it could go from the defensive
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball to the play calling to Dak
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  Speaker 1: throwing some terrible interceptions in this game that really hurt them.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles and the Cowboys are out of the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: and we're not even to the divisional round. These are
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  Speaker 1: the two teams we talked about all season long, the
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  Speaker 1: powers of the NFC East. Who's going to take on
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  Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers in the NFC Championship Game? Is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be one of these two teams. They're both out
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  Speaker 1: and instead you have this upstart, really fun, really young
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  Speaker 1: Packers team with a quarterback who looks as good as
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  Speaker 1: anybody in the league and Jordan Love. And then you
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  Speaker 1: got this Buccaneers team that no one thought anything of.
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  Speaker 1: They rebuilt themselves on the fly, Cap hell Brady retires
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  Speaker 1: and they get further than they did last year with
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady under center. Let you throw in the Lions
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  Speaker 1: as your third other team, and they've got one of
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  Speaker 1: the coolest stories in sports. So I look at both
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  Speaker 1: Dallas and Philadelphia as major, major disappointments. I look at
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna be talking about over the entire offseason.
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  Speaker 1: They have big decisions to make. Do you bring back
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy that's number one? Two? Do you bring back Sirianni? Three?
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  Speaker 1: Do you bring back dak at sixty million with a
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  Speaker 1: major contract and the press conference and the whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: or do you ride this out a little bit and
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  Speaker 1: then with the eagle side of it, like, what do
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  Speaker 1: we do with that entire situation? Because Kelsey is the
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  Speaker 1: first one to leave, it might be Brandon Graham, it
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  Speaker 1: might be Fletcher. You might have a big roster turnover.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, Aaron, all those picks that we praised,
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Nolan Smith, Keelee Ringo, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see them down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: They slowed down this season. They started so hot, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: those rookies like they weren't as big of a contributor
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  Speaker 2: as we got later into the season and then into
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But Aaron, I do want to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions real quick. I feel like we were riding
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  Speaker 1: this train well before everybody else last year. That was
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  Speaker 1: kind of on it as they finished the season strong.
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  Speaker 1: And then over the offseason, we had Brad Holmes on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast the general Manager, and I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: am so into this dude, I am so into his conviction.
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  Speaker 1: He told us his story, which if you guys haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard it, we pumped it to the top of the
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  Speaker 1: feed earlier this week on the podcast. Brad Holmes is
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  Speaker 1: working at Enterprise run a car at the Atlanta Hartsfield Airport.
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  Speaker 1: He then got an opportunity to be a PR intern
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  Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Hawks. Going from the Atlanta Hawks, he
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  Speaker 1: jumped to the Saint Louis Rams to be a PR
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  Speaker 1: entry level job, eventually made the move to the front office,
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  Speaker 1: built up a career in Saint Louis and then Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 1: and then got the job as the Detroit Lions GM
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  Speaker 1: two years ago. Comes in immediately makes a trade for
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  Speaker 1: Jared Goff that everyone thought golf was kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a throw in, but Brad Holmes made a point to say, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not a throw in, Like I want you to
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  Speaker 1: be our quarterback because he was with them in Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles and with them in Saint Louis, and he knew,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he knew. Now, I don't know if Holmes
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  Speaker 1: ever knew it could come to this, but it has.
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  Speaker 1: And you add in the hiring a Dan Campbell, and
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  Speaker 1: then you look at the way that front office has
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  Speaker 1: built itself and kind of, you know, gone about their business.
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  Speaker 1: It's so you know, it is really inside the weeds.
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  Speaker 1: But like we could talk about the football all day long.
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  Speaker 1: It's been great. But Holmes gets there, Campbell gets there.
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  Speaker 1: But they weren't the first two brought in. So Sheila
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  Speaker 1: hamp Ford is the real odor of the managing owner
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  Speaker 1: Scott rod Wood, who is the president of the Lions,
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  Speaker 1: who's been the president Lions for a long time. What
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  Speaker 1: they felt was necessary was to bring in some actual
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  Speaker 1: culture people more so than like we need the hardcore
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  Speaker 1: football person. And no one screamed culture more to them
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  Speaker 1: than Chris Spielman. Now, Spielman does not do media. Spielman
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  Speaker 1: does not get out there and is not out in
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  Speaker 1: the open. But what's crazy is that Chris Spielman, who
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  Speaker 1: might be the greatest Lions linebacker of all time, was
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  Speaker 1: my on air partner for three seasons with the NFL
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  Speaker 1: on Fox. And what's crazy is that Chris is one
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  Speaker 1: of the most eloquent, passionate and best communicators of football,
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  Speaker 1: but they kind of keep him under wraps or he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't buy design and his job is a bit undefined there.
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  Speaker 1: But he's there, and he was very integral in the
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  Speaker 1: hiring of Dan Campbell. And when he got there, it
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  Speaker 1: was him, it was the owner, it was Rodwood, and
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  Speaker 1: then it was a gentleman named Mike Disner. Google Mike
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  Speaker 1: Disner real quick if you want a resume. He's not
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  Speaker 1: a familiar face. He's not a familiar name. But Michael
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  Speaker 1: Disner worked at the league in their management council group
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  Speaker 1: for a while. Then he went to the Patriots and
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  Speaker 1: was super successful there. Then he went to the Arizona Cardinals.
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  Speaker 1: And with the Arizona Cardinals he was number two to
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  Speaker 1: Steve Kim. Now, the Arizona Cardinals don't have forty guys
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  Speaker 1: in their front office. The Arizona Cardinals the couple people, scouts,
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  Speaker 1: salary cap guy, a few different people who work on
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  Speaker 1: the grounds there and like Disney, wore all hats with Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: So while in Arizona. He really rose to the top.
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  Speaker 1: But he's a Michigan guy. He's from I want to
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  Speaker 1: say Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. I might be wrong on the town.
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  Speaker 1: It might be Arbor Hills might be one of those.
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  Speaker 1: And when that Lion's opportunity came about, he jumped and left.
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  Speaker 1: So you now have Disner and Spielman, one of them
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  Speaker 1: who is born and raised Michigan and came back because
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  Speaker 1: it's his hometown team. The other one is a all
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  Speaker 1: time linebacker who had seen the NFL first hand, going
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  Speaker 1: stadium to stadium over the last five years calling NFL
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  Speaker 1: games on Fox. And then you have an owner and
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  Speaker 1: a president who had been there and been through different hires,
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  Speaker 1: that saw what worked and what didn't work. You take
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  Speaker 1: those four, you bring in Brad Holmes as your general manager,
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  Speaker 1: and then you hire Dan Campbell, who, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: there wasn't a long list of teams looking to hire
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  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, who is the tight ends coach from the
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. Campbell comes in and he brings in
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  Speaker 1: this cast of characters, a former pros. Look at that
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff. It's Mark Brunel, it's Aaron Glenn. It's one
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  Speaker 1: former player after another, and I think it's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: cool mix of what they've done. You pair that with
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  Speaker 1: one of the best draft classes in all all the
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  Speaker 1: football they got this year, a former number one overall
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  Speaker 1: pick who's been kicked to the curb and discarded in
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  Speaker 1: Jared Goff, and then just tons of late round talent
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  Speaker 1: that have delivered, whether it be Amman, Ross, Saint Brown
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  Speaker 1: or Eli McNeil, all these guys who have been really good.
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  Speaker 1: And oh yeah, they killed it in the free agency
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  Speaker 1: game too. I love the way Detroit was built. I
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  Speaker 1: love the people behind it. I love that they did
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  Speaker 1: it the right way, and I love that these fans
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  Speaker 1: can truly appreciate this moment. If I'm negative on where
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles and Cowboys are and I'm down on them,
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  Speaker 1: I am so high on where the Detroit Lions are.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like they built this from the ground up
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  Speaker 1: and the culture was the most important piece. Kudos to
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  Speaker 1: Lions fans. This is truly an amazing ride and you
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  Speaker 1: deserve every moment of it. Enjoy a second second home
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  Speaker 1: playoff game in the twenty twenty three playoffs. I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to say no one saw it coming.
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  Speaker 2: But Aaron I did when even when Gibbs started the
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  Speaker 2: season slow, you were still on it. You were saying,
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  Speaker 2: patients gives offensive touch at the first round.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the like the first game, and everyone's killing
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  Speaker 1: me on on Twitter, like what I drafted Gibbs in
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  Speaker 1: my face. I think Gibbs finished up one thousand yards
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage in ten touchdowns. If you took him in
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  Speaker 1: the fantasy draft in the second round, he was well
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  Speaker 1: worth it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I got him in like the third
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  Speaker 2: round or something, and I was very upset in the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Gibbs, Laporta, Laporta, god Brian Branch, Jack Campbell an inside linebacker. Awesome. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I really like the Lions. They're favored by a lot
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  Speaker 1: of points against the Bucks. They're likely gonna take care
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  Speaker 1: of business. I don't see them falling on their faces,
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  Speaker 1: not now, not the way this thing is riding and rolling.
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  Speaker 2: I do think if if we didn't have Puka this year,
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  Speaker 2: Laporta's year would have felt more momentous because he had
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  Speaker 2: such He broke all the records for a rookie Titans
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  Speaker 2: and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think he tied Gronk for second
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  Speaker 1: most touchdowns for rookie Titan Number one was Mike Diko.
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  Speaker 1: We should showed that graphic, which is like from nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty one. Laporta's story is great. The guy was hurt,
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  Speaker 1: was questionable, doubtful. Then fourth and one, who's scoring the
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  Speaker 1: touchdown in the big playoff game. It's Sam Laporta. I look,
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  Speaker 1: there's the four remaining NFC quarterbacks right now, Jared Goff,
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Rock Purty and Jordan Love If I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can't write this stuff, you can't. You can't write
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  Speaker 1: this stuff all right as we swing from playoffs. I
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  Speaker 1: want to go through sort of the stuff in my
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  Speaker 1: notebook right now, which is a fascinating time in football.
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  Speaker 1: As we're listening, it's we're recording this on a Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 1: It'll post probably later Tuesday afternoon. Things can change. So
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  Speaker 1: Belichick is now. It's so funny. There was a tweet
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  Speaker 1: last night from the Falcons that said we have interviewed
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  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick for our vacant coaching And I'm like, that
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  Speaker 1: is that how it went down? Or is Belichick interviewing you?
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like it's this celestial being like all right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm picturing Belichick with a resume, like, you know, handing
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  Speaker 1: it to Arthur Blank and Rich McKay and Terry Fontano
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  Speaker 1: and saying like, here's what I've done.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us the time that you had to work from adversity, Bill,
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  Speaker 2: tell us.
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  Speaker 1: A time where you were down three scores or more
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  Speaker 1: in a big moment, and how that affected your team
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  Speaker 1: versus the opponent. Is Belichick gona interview? Elsewhere is Belichick?
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  Speaker 1: Does Belchick have to interview? That one is wild? So
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  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about Dallas like to
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  Speaker 1: empty the notebook, if you will. He's got a really
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  Speaker 1: good relationship with Jerry Jones and Steven Jones because Belichick's
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  Speaker 1: been going to owners meetings for forty years and is
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  Speaker 1: a very engaged individual when it comes to voices in
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  Speaker 1: the league. As far as rules go, committee meetings, all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. Belichick's very very much involved. I said on
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  Speaker 1: Bill Simmons's podcast last week that I don't think Jerry
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  Speaker 1: would do that to Craft because it's like there is
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  Speaker 1: honor amongst thieves, if you will, and Jerry and Craft
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  Speaker 1: are leader. And then everybody, including people in the league
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  Speaker 1: who heard that, including Bill Simmons who was the co
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  Speaker 1: host or was hosted of that podcast and interview me
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  Speaker 1: was like, it's like, get the hell out of here,
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  Speaker 1: what are you talking about. Jerry Jones wants one thing
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  Speaker 1: and one thing only. He wants to win. And Bill's
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  Speaker 1: ull take was like, rich guys don't care about stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. Rich guys want the biggest Yeah, they want
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  Speaker 1: the biggest Super Bowl ring, they want all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: The other part of it is just Jerry's dedication to winning.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe I was a little bit too Pollyanna and
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  Speaker 1: a little too wide, I'd say, and like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Jerry would do that to Craft. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Jerry's gonna pluck off Belichick and then do Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was probably wrong on that. We'll see if Jerry gets
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  Speaker 1: rid of McCarthy and if that's the pick. I also
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  Speaker 1: think Vray Bill could be a really good, interesting, just
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  Speaker 1: you know hire in Dallas. So keep an eye on that.
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  Speaker 1: Last night and we're fresh, all the Eagles fans are
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  Speaker 1: tweeting me. Everyone's texting me, could the Eagles get Belichick?
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  Speaker 3: I I don't know, Like that that's a lot and
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  Speaker 3: like that would probably mean there's a Howie Roseman Belichick
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  Speaker 3: deal far as the roster goes, how he is really
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  Speaker 3: good at managing that roster.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if how he's looking to then have
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  Speaker 1: Belichick in the room as a voice. That would be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And then you go to any of these vacant jobs
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  Speaker 1: and Belichick's name comes up. But I think the more
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  Speaker 1: interesting thing is that Chargers situation not for Belichick so
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  Speaker 1: much Harbaugh. He interviewed with them all day on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious to hear out when. I'm sure I'll hear
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  Speaker 1: from the Chargers folks at some point, or we'll hear
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  Speaker 1: from Belichick's side. But I said when Pete Carroll's was
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  Speaker 1: kind of dismissed or stepped away from Seattle, Pete Carroll
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  Speaker 1: makes the most sense for the Chargers. Pete Carroll is
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  Speaker 1: Southern California. Pete Carroll has one at USC. Pete Carroll
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  Speaker 1: walks in there. You have a local legend, and there's
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  Speaker 1: this great heartwarming So Pee Carroll still wants to coach,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that moves the needle in that market
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  Speaker 1: in Orange County, which where they're gonna be opening a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful new facility, far more than Harbaugh, who although will
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  Speaker 1: bring what he brings and that's a national title and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. I don't know if there's that connection
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  Speaker 1: to that market. Either way, both make a lot of sense,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's Harball or Pete Carroll. Pee Carroll has not
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  Speaker 1: been listed as a guy who's interviewing for that job yet.
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  Speaker 1: I also curiously who the GM is there and how
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  Speaker 1: those pieces work, because if Harball comes in, I think
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  Speaker 1: Harball comes in with all his guys on offense, the
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  Speaker 1: Greg Roman types, if he's available to do so, his
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  Speaker 1: front office guys, He's got a whole thing. Harboy comes in.
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  Speaker 1: And now I remember Harball interviewed twice with the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: He interviewed with the Vikings two years ago when they
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  Speaker 1: gave it to O'Connell. Those were not the right fits.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the right fit? Well, you say, justin Herbert,
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  Speaker 1: of course. And what Harba does is he wins right away.
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  Speaker 1: He did it at the University of San Diego, which
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  Speaker 1: is your real fit there, I guess, even though San
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  Speaker 1: Diego and Los Angeles Chargers are not quite necessarily tied
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  Speaker 1: together in any way, especially since the Chargers moved. He
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  Speaker 1: did it at Stanford, he did it at the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine Ers, of course, and then of course he did
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  Speaker 1: it at the Colts are at at Michigan. I said,
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  Speaker 1: the Colts, that's where he played as a player and
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: turned them around. Harboaugh to Chargers would make sense, of course,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: but I kind of like that Pete Carroll wildcard a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: little bit more, and just to see if Pete's going
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to go somewhere else, that would be the place other vacancies.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Carolina is currently interviewing GM candidates and they're going to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: be meeting with head coaches throughout this thing. They've got
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to kind of do the who we hire first deal
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: head coach or GM. I'm told those interviews are going
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: on in Carolina as we speak. David Tepper's been funneling
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: through different general manager candidates and they've been both in
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: person and on remote and I think it's going to
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see what the structure of that front
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: office is. As they fired their general manager, Scott Fitterer,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: but Dan Morgan, former University of Miami player, former linebacker,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: is still technically employed by the Panthers, and I'm told
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Tepper thanks very fondly of the me as a personnel
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: guy and also as a voice in the building. So
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see if it's someone comes in and
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: works with Dan Morgan, someone comes in and it is
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: their own people, or if it's just Dan Morgan outright.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: So that's your Carolina side Atlanta. You heard about Belichick.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: They're also interviewing others. Kevin Demoff, the president of the Rams,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: made a great case for Raheem Morris last week. Who's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator of the Rams? On our podcast? I'm
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: told that made the rounds. If you saw Aaron Jalen
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Ramsey tweeted out the clip.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Oh I didn't see that.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Oh nice. London Fletcher tweeted out the clip. Who played
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: for Raheem in Washington? I believe Aaron not Aaron Donald
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Now Andrew Whitworth, oh tweeted out the clip. So you
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: had your your your people who've played for Raheem come
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: out and speak, and those are the player's side saying, yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: this is the guy. You also have Kyle Shanahan and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay and the president of the Rams. I feel
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: like he deserves a shot. So he's he's being rumored
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to go to Atlanta, Tennessee. I believe is a possibility there,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and I think Raheem also is going to interview for
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: that Chargers job. So we watch our Tennessee is interesting.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: It blew out Verbel Coach of the year, the whole thing.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: It's like who they bringing in curious to see? As
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you know these coaches and these owners, a lot of
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: times what they do is they'll go from one big
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: swing to another, they'll go the polar opposite. I remember
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the Jets did this twice. It was like they had
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Herm Edwards who was full of bluster in the stutehere,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and then like from him, they went to Eric Manngini
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: who was like not the big personality, was more low key.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Then they went to Rex Ryan who was huge personality,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and then to Todd Bowles who was not and like
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: was more low key. I think it depends on the building.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: But like from what I gather the fit between the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: owner that what she envisions with how voices should be heard,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and then what Verbel had going on where it was
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: kind of like his way there, I think you're gonna
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: look at a different type of head coach where it
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: might not be as established a head coach, or it
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: might be somebody who's a younger head coach in his
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: first year or somebody who's just willing to, you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: kind of take an equal shiit with the GM or
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: an equal share with the owner and not be as
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: loud a voice in the room or as powerful voice
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in the room, or in all these different teams. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I still think there might be some more like I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: don't know about Dallas, I don't know about New Orleans.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I know those guys are still there, but it's okay.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know about Philadelphia. Sirianni's there, but I could
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: they fired Doug Peterson two years after winning a Super Bowl.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: These these coaching hires are not necessarily always done, and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: these coaching firings are not always necessly done on the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Monday after a game or the Tuesday after a game.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they take some time and there's some conversations. I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: will say this, the Patriots pretty seamless on their situation.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know about the way the rules in that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: contract were written, but they didn't go through the interview
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: process at all. They were able to hire Gerd Mayo. Now,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Rod Mayo is a person of color, so it's like
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the Rooney rule in itself is kind of satisfied by that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: So you're not going to find anyone raising their hand
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: about that. But if the point of the accelerator program
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that the league does every year bringing in so many
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: different minority candidates to meet with the owners is to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: get a chance to interact and then ultimately get in
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the interview rooms, I think it would have been beneficial
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: for the league and for some other coaches to have
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to at least interview for the job. That
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: obviously is not a matter of significance, as they've already
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: moved on. They have the press conference Wednesday for Jerrodmeo.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: But I did say, you know, if, wouldn't that have
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: been cool for everyone to interview with the crafts or
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: at the very least get an opportunity to meet another owner.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: But it didn't happen.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've talked on some of the other interviews,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Like we talked about the importance of Mike McDaniel getting
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: some of these interviews early on and like testing what
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: his I hate to say performance, but like what his
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: performance under pressure of a big head coaching interview would be. Like,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: So I totally understand, Like how that's there are a
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: ton of openings, but that's one less opening that could
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: be I don't know eight people interviews.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more like, okay, the Patriots are in their
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: right to say, well, we put this on this guy's contract.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: He's a person of color. We satisfied the rudy roll,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and like we have to get started, like we know
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: our guy. Why would we waste anyone's time. From the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: big picture, my only thing was like, all right, so
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel said, he got, you know, the opportunity to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: interview for jobs, or he wanted to interview for jobs,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: like and just a chance to get in that room,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and it helped him immensely. It would have been cool
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to maybe have some guys who haven't had the chance
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: to interview for jobs meet with a team and go
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: through the process. But again, this is really deep in
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the weeds stuff right there. As for this podcast, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: thought there would be no person better to preview Packers
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers than a guy who is the younger
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: sibling of one of the head coaches and a disciple
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of the others. You can't make this up. Mike Lafleur,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: who by the way, is the current offensive coordinator of
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams and the guy who helped unleash
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Puka Nakua and Kieran Williams and what the Rams did
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: down the stretch. Is the younger brother of Matt Lafleur,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the head coach of the Green Bay Packers. He is
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: also a longtime coach under Kyle Shanahan when he was
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Well, who's playing this weekend? Packers forty
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: nine Ers? I love Mike. I think Mike is a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: great young coach in his own right. He went from
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, came with the Robert Solid of
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the Jets, was the Jets offensive coordinator for a couple
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of years, gets let go there, and quickly goes to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, where not only does he put a stamp
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: on what Mike Laflora offense could look like, I think
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: he shut some people up in the New York area
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: when they saw what was going on with that Rams
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: offense this year. Mike's a great dude, and I'm about
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to bring him on.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: If you listen to this podcast, you listened to us.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: We have the best guests who are coaches, GM's decision
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: makers and also some of the most relevant ones. I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: could not have imagined a more appropriate guess for this week,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: either a because of the performance his offense put on
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: this year in Los Angeles, or be his connection to
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the two head coaches of one of the divisional round games.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: With no further ado, it's the offensive coordinator of the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, mister, Mike Lafleur. Mike, what's up?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Man? What's up?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Peter?
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you having me, man.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Look, I remember being on the sidelines
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl and it was Chiefs versus forty
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: nine Ers, and there's a little rope there and your brother,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Matt had either just been hired by Green Bay or
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: maybe a week earlier, had gotten the job, and he's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: sitting behind a rope and he's like, hey, Shreg Shrigg's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there with the credential because I'm one
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of these obnoxious media guys that just walks around like
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I belong on the field. And he's like, what's up, dude,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And like you came over to the sideline and there
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: was this awesome hug before the game because you were
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: an assistant with the forty nine ers coaching in the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And there's Matt Lafleur, the recently hired coach
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of the Packers. And now it comes full circle where
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers are back in a big game
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: divisional round and your brother is still the head coach
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers. Where are you going to
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: be for this game? And when you see Laflor versus
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and you have nothing to do with it,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: what's your reaction?
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: It's wild? You know. It seems like the Packers and
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Niners have played a lot of games over the last
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: five years, right, and it was a part of a
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: lot of those and obviously not anymore. So trying to
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: figure it all out. We are going to shoot up there,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: my wife and I I know my parents are gonna
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: they're actually they're going to fly over there breeding the
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: boys are going to fly down here for a night
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, okay, and we'll end up shooting. We'll
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: end up shooting up there on Friday. So trying to
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: figure all that out. I mean, all this happened so quickly.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: We you know, didn't plan on not being a part
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: of you know, this upcoming weekends game. So we'll figure
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: it all out. But we'll be up there to sporting
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk that game in a second, But
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: can we can you humor me a little bit on
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: just some rams talk as we put a bow on
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: what was it? Amazing unexpected season that maybe you might say, well,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: unexpected to you, but very expected to us. You get
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the job after things end in New York, you get
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the job in Los Angeles. Mcveigh's texting me like, I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: really like this Michael Floor. Obviously he knows your brother
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: real well and he knows you, and he's like, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: really think things are going to be special. And I'm
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: kind of rolling my eyes, like, no, I like Mike two,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: but with what with what weapons? And then we have
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: this offensive explosion and I'm gonna mention two guys and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I want you to hit on both of them. When
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: did you know Puka Nakula was going to have the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: greatest rookie season from a wide receiver that we've seen
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in years.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to sit here and say that when
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: we drafted him, and then even as well as he
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: was doing an ots in training camp to have the
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: statistical year he had, maybe lying to you, but you
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: did know early on that one this kid is extremely mature.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Two he's extremely tough. That's that was evident from all
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: his film obviously at Uyu and he just he fit
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: into this culture right away. He's a maze and what
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: a cool resource he had in Cooper Cup to kind
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: of lean on to get him up the speed. Obviously,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: when you have Matthew Staffords your quarterback, you know, you
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: want to be in the right spot at the right time.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: And he understood that and that's part of his maturity.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: So he he stood out right away. OTAs stood out
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: when he put the pads on, probably even more so
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: once we got the training camp, and you know, it
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: happened right away. He had a great game against Seattle.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: He ended up having twenty targets in Week two versus
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: the Niners, which was crazy cut catching fifteen of them,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: you know, and he just kind of and it never stopped.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: And you know, he's he's a dude you root for too,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: because he's just such a likable guy and when he
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: puts those pads on, he plays the game the right way.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about that rookie wall all the time,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: like it felt like it never came for Nikua and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: he saved his best for last. He had the most
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: yards for a rookie receiver in a playoff game in
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the history of the sport on Sunday night, and he
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: did it on ten targets, nine catches, And it's like
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: everyone who's watching at home was watching them all like, yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that that's kind of what we expect from him. Was
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the game plan going in, Let's feed Pooka and let's
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: get him the rock.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, it's our job to
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: make sure that the best players are touching the ball.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: But but what's what's when our offense is running at
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: its best, It's not about trying to force anyone the ball.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: You had you at the coverage, dictate where that ball goes.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: And you know, Matthew does as good as anyone of
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: spreading that ball around, reading the plays out, true, you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: And I think that's why you saw a lot of
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: our guys, you know, particularly that back half of the
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: season with the Marcus and Higbee making his plays like
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: he always has here obviously, Kyen, both in the run
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: and the past game. Cooper is always going to be Cooper,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: So to to to two had a big, big play,
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: and TO two was making plays earlier in the year
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: and and you know continue to so that's when our
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: offense is doing the best.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: But again, the best players are going to find a
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: way to touch the ball, and he did.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And yet you know, in the moments, it's like if
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: you had told me in August that Ronnie Rivers was
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: going to be getting key play in this huge play.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: All these guys stepped up. I really was impressed with
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the way the offense played.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's just a credit to those guys.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: And again, it all, it all starts with number nine.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: He is I heard a lot of good things about
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: him when I came in, and it was almost undersold
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: from people in Detroit obviously, how Sean felt about him.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Incredible player, incredible quarterback. He's not going anywhere. I won't
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: let him go anywhere for I mean, he's got too
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: much good years ahead of him. But he's even a
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: better person to work with. He is just phenomenal and
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: he's receptive. And you know, you wake up and join
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: going to work every day because the a the building
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: is incredible. But be at that quarterback is just a
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: He's a joy to work with.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Talk about his toughness for a second, Are you serious
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: We're talking about an NFL in twenty twenty three, where
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know, some people say that the rules have changed
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and that there's you know, the guys aren't as tough
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: as they were. Harry Stafford on Sunday Night Football, getting
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: stepped on, getting knocked getting you know, his hand is
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: completely severed. There's just out there slinging just right back
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: up and keeps going. I thought, I thought you a loss.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: It was the most heroic performance that we've seen in
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: recent Memoryes. He was awesome.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's that's what he is. I mean, he's you know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: he's going to get knocked down. He's he's not uh,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: he's not Lamar out there running away from you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: the big guys chasing him in there. But he's going
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: to stand in there with the best of them, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: he's going to keep getting up, you know. And and
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: that's just evident. That's not just this year. Uh, he's
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: not just all of a sudden just gotten tough. That
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: that dates back to his rookie year, right, And I
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: believe it was his rookie year against the man. And
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: so it's just it's not fake, right, And it never
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: gets old watching that. And yeah, it's it's a prerequisite
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: to uh to be tough and be a you know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: a quarterback in this league. It's that's just part of it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: But he just takes that to another level, a level
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: that it's in my opinion, unmatched.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he had the running back hire and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hit on him because we've hit the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: other names. And obviously the offensive line all stepped up
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: this year, but Kyed Williams, I think the stat was
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he had the third most rushing yards, like in the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: history of the sport for a guy who's missed five games.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: There was some wild stat about just how good he
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: was this season historically and before the year. I don't
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: know if anyone drafted him in their fantasy football.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: League right now, He's just another guy that again, he
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: got cut short a little a year ago, right he
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: was battling some injuries and stuff like that. He is
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: a guy that I know less. And Sean pinpointed that, hey,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: this is a ram you know when they took him
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: in the draft in terms of his toughness, in terms
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: of his maturity. So he kind of fits in that
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: same bold I was saying of Puka, where he just
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: comes to work and he's ready to work every single day,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: and so what he does on Sunday really isn't that
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: big dust because that's what he does Wednesday through Friday
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: when he's out on that practice field. He's just showing
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: up every single day. He's such an enjoyable guy to
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: be around. He's a guy that, again kind of like Matthew,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: you want to do your best for him as a coach,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: you know, And you know, he had a magical run
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: this year, and I think that's his standard. I think
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: that's I know, that's how he's gonna approach it, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: moving forward, I.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Think the Rams aren't a very good place. I've you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I had Kevin Demo off the team president on last
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: week because he was talking about the Jared Goff trade
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and the Stafford trade and going through it all, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: he went through some of those defensive names and then
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the offensive players, and I just love the way the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: story went this year. You guys, you know, kind of
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: written off by a run before this season, and by
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the end of the year, I think you guys were
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: one of the top five to six teams in the league.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And if things go a different way, if you make
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: one more play, if you get one call, that goes differently,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: probably still playing today and the team that nobody wants
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to face. I would just say congratulations to you as
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: a first year coordinator with this team taking that offense
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: to new heights. It's really awesome, dude.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it. Didn't didn't plan on being you know,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: in my house right here on a Tuesday. Was hoping
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: to keep this thing going. Like you just said, I mean,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: it's credit to Detroit. That was what a great game
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: that was, and it was it was, and it was
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: an incredible atmosphere. Had a lot of you know, all
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: my family basically still lives in Michigan, so we had
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of Rams fans there that
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: you know, just had to make the drive over from
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Grand Rapids and Kilma Zoo. But you know, hey, when
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: you when you don't score touchdowns in the red zone,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: that kind of was the story. We were oll for
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: three in the red zone. We were we were fourth
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: in the league going into you know, the playoffs, But
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: none of that stuff matters if you don't get it
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: done on that on that day. And I thought our
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: guys played great, They played tough, they they were in
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: the fight all day, and you know they made one
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: more play than we did.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: You know me, I'm watching it and Stafford's thrown for
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: three sixty two and Nikua has got nine cat and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: they had that red zone shot to Cup and I'm
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: like that that's nine out of ten times Stafford to Cup.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: That's that's usually. And I know it's killing you. I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: sure it's killing you, and I'm just watching on my couch,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, that's how close this game was. It
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: was the razor's edge. And I don't want you to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: spend all off season thinking about what could have been.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I want you to a releast appreciate how great you
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: guys had had it going on because you guys were
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: dialed in.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a fresh wound right now, so we'll see,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: you know, well, we'll see.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Limit to me to bring it up, so we all
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: talk about that twenty thirteen Washington staff, which included your
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: brother and McVeigh and McDaniel. But like, I look at
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen forty nine Ers staff and I'm like,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about today's coaches and all those guys.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Can you go through some of the colleagues you had
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: on that twenty nineteen forty nine or Super Bowl team
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that was just in the coaching staff alone, because you
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: look around the league, it's everyone doing huge things right now.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it was a really cool staff. Kyle, you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: gets a ton of credit and credit deserve for being
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: just so good schematically right, getting guys open, getting his guys,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: getting his best players of the ball with space. But
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: the thing that I think he does best is he
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: has an eye for coaching talent and just obviously player talent.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: He's incredible at it. He knows what he wants from
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: both sides. And you know, we were the same staff
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: in nineteen basically outside of Caseric, who we brought into nineteen,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: who was a huge, huge, you know, reason why that
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: D line does what it does. But eighteen we were
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: coaching the senior ball, you know, and uh and didn't
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: have the year that we wanted. It was still all
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: the same coaches, and credit to John Lynch and Kyle
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: for for you know, just being great leaders and keeping
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: us on the right path. Obviously, you know you had
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel, who's doing great things. I just said, Case Saric,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: who's who's arguably the best in the business at at
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: d line, uh Salah, who is you know, an incredible
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: defensive coach uh and and great friend. You know, Bobby
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Slowick was a was a QC on defense for the
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: first two years. Kyle said, I don't want to waste
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: him on defense. Let's bring him over at offense. He's
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: got too good of a brain to be wasted on
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: the defensive side. Uh So he stolen from Sala who
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: didn't love that, and brought him over. What about Demiko Ryans?
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: You know, he's just an incredible incredible again, you know,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: he's an incredible coach, but he's even a better person
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: and leader. And not surprised, seriously, not surprised at all
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: what he's doing. It just was a matter of time.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: And what a cool fit for him to go back
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: to Houston. I would say that's probably the fairy tale,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: you know, for him to be back there. Just a
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: lot of really really good good coaches, but better better
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: humans for sure.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I love it all Right, So this week you're kind
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: of torn. You've got your brother, You've got your former
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you know colleague. Obviously, I would imagine your heart lives
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: with with Blood and you're going with Green Bay on
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: this one, but their relationship, having watched it from a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: from a close vantage point, I think it's so interesting.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Obviously they've had already huge battles in the playoffs in
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: regular season, and of course Kyle's got the best of
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Matt sometimes Matt's gotten the best of Kyle sometimes. The
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: dynamic between Matt Lafleura and Kyle Shanahan from little brother
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and ex colleague, what what's your vantage point on it?
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Disrespect? You know, I think they have so much respect
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: for each other. They obviously, you know, worked you know
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: for quite a few years together, starting in Houston when
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Kyle was a very very young offensive coordinator and obviously
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: really good already, and then then for him to bring
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: him to Washington. They had the one year where you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: they all got let go in thirteen, as we all know,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: and then fourteen they separated for a year. Kyle went
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: to Cleveland, that's where I met up with them, and
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Matt went to Notre Dame and then able to have
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: the two years in Atlanta together and what a what
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: an incredible two years that was in fifteen and sixteen.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Obviously didn't finish that when the way we wanted, but
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: again Nonetheless, they're both both incredible coaches. They're both incredible people,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: very different people, you know, So it's it's gonna be
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be a fun one up there. No one
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: expected Green Bay to be where they're at. Everyone expected
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: San Francisco to be where they're at for obvious reasons.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: And you know, I think they're both playing their best
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: ball at the right time, and it's gonna be fun.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: You've had a chance to watch from Afar Jordan Love's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: maturation and development this year. Obviously, your brother's been living
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: with it for years, having them on the bench with
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Rogers there and then finding a way to get some
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: time to devote to Love. I think right now, now
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: that Stafford's been eliminated, now that Dak's been out of here,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I could argue that no quarterback in the NFC is
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: playing better than Jordan Love right now. You've had a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: chance to watch him afar, obviously, but you're you're in
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: those conversations Jordan Love as you look at him as
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: an opposing coach, what's your take on his development, how
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: far he's come?
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: He just he he looks like he just not looks
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: he has this great command out there you can just
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: tell it's the game has slowed down for him so much,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: and that's a that's a fun spot to be as
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: a player and let alone a quarterback, you know. And
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: so you've been able to see it not just from
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: week one to now, but but really kind of somewhere
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: in that mid, you know, middle part of the year.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: It felt like it started when we played him in
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: early November, right before our bye week, where you could
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: just you could feel that it just was starting to
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: look right. And then I know, when we were on
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: the by I was able to watch the Green Bay
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Steelers game, you know, live because you don't get to
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: see many games live obviously because you're preparing for your
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: own and they didn't win, but it looked right on offense.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: And see that's your saying, because everyone circled that game
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: and was like that's the end of the steel the
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: end of the Packers season, Like they lost to the Steelers,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: it's over. And yet you saw it and you're like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: wait a second, I see something here.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: It looked right. It looked right from you could tell
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Matt was calling it in an aggressive way, and usually
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: when the play callers being aggressive, it's because he has
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: so much trust in all his players, but more importantly
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: his quarterback. And I think that's probably the biggest thing
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: if you asked him, is Matt trusts him because Jordan's
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: playing that way and he's playing aggressive, he's playing smart,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: and it's been it's been cool to watch. And I know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: I know, and Bat's been on record. I don't know Jordan.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I've talked to him probably once, but he's I know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Matt really roots for the human he's but he really
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: likes the guy, you know, and and the teammates really
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: like the guy. And so that's what's that's what's really
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: been cool to see from Afar.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: It's really neat that whole story of the Packers. They
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: are so young. So here we have all these established team.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Packers are the youngest team to ever win a playoff game.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Your brother takes a whole different crew of guys on
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: offense and overnight almost package them together, and here we are.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: They're sizzling. When you were talking to Matt over the summer,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: did you think he had an idea that there was
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a shot that Dontavian Wicks and Jayden Reed would be
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: leaving them to the divisional round.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I'll be honest, it seems like every week there's new
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: guys out there.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I don't even know where some of them, like Bo
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Melton showed up in week seventeen and is now like
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a go to guy.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Right, And whoever's out there, it's just working, you know.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of what I mean, where it just
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: it just looks right, you know. It looks like just
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: a well constructed, well orchestrated and again that you know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: a lot of credit to Matt and the coach is
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: no doubt, but quarterback is in command out there, and
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: he's comfortable and everyone else is found suit really really
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: cool to watch.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I say with great confidence that I believe, and you
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: don't have to be bashful. I believe you'll be a
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL at some point, you know.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: And if it's not getting interviews this year or getting
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a job this year, it will happen for you because
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you're already respected as one of the best offensive minds
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: in the game. And that'll happen. When you look at
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Sean and you look at your brother and you look
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: at Kyle at everyone always says, well, they run like
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the Shanahan offense or whatever it is. There are different
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: intricacies between the three though, right, and you you could
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: spot them out. You can identify, like, here's what this
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: one does better than the other. Here's what makes this
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: one unique from this one. You've had a chance to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: obviously be with those guys for many, many years in
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: conversations both in the building and I'm sure you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: at a dinner table or at a bar or wherever
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: you guys are hanging in the off season.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's uh, you could say that the
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: nuts and bolts of the offenses are are you know, similar,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: you know in some aspects, but they all go within
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: their own personality, you know. And we could talk for
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: three hours about this, but I loved it.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I would honestly, to be honest, Mike, I'd like to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: write a book on this. Like I feel like this
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: is like the coolest stuff going in football right now.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And seeing the three offenses this year was really neat.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And then and then throw you know, McDaniel in
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: there in Miami and and here here's what I'll say that,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: you know, I feel like, let's just say those four
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: teams is uh, it's fit to the players, you know,
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: whatever your player's skill sets are. That's that's where the
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: offense ends up going and starting with the quarterback, but
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: also the skill around it, you know, so because we
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: can all run this system or whatever the system is,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: but if it doesn't fit with the players that you got,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: then doesn't really matter, you know. And so we fit
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: ours in a way where we're going to use Kooka's
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: big body as as a fullback sometimes and Cooper's you know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: toughness and smarts as a fullback sometimes back there because
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: that's really what they are at times, which opens up
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: the run game, which opens up the play pass and
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: all that. So again, that's probably a conversation for another day,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe somewhere here in La on the
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: beach or something, we can get together for a few
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: hours and talk about it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Kyle as as like the coach who has spawned the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you know, with you and with McDaniel and of course
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: with your older brother. Has Kyle's offense changed over the years?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Do you see it as you study that forty nine
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: ers tape saying like, well, this is a different offense
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: than the one that I was coaching a couple of
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: years ago.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, ass, it's it's evolved, and you know, I think
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: with with a guy like Christian, you know, McCaffrey, they're
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: doing a lot of things where you know, they're not
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: inempty but they're they're inempty because of where Christian lines
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: up with Sean and I call it he's in Jumanji
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: out there like he's not on the ball, but he's
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: like outside the cores five yards off, you know, and
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: it's like, what what is? You know, something's going on
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: over there, and maybe he's a decoy, maybe he's not,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: you know, And that's a guy that again that in
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: twenty seventeen when we went to the Stanford Pro day,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Kyle loved him. We all loved him obviously, and uh,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: you know it was we had to I won't even
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: get into the draft and all that all unfolded, but
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: he ended up in the long run getting them. He
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: got there and and he got there, you know, and
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: he probably got there at the right time, and you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: so it's, uh, it's it's unique to watch, but yeah,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: that Kyle's always evolved in and the defenses have evolved
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: so much since the play past days of twenty fifteen
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: and sixteen with Atlanta and even early when we first
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: got to San Francisco. People are letting you get over
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: top as much anymore. And so now let's exploit in
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: the intermediate levels of the defense. And you know, I
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: like to feel that we we do it as well
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: as anyone, you know, our kind of group of coaches.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the what is the off season like
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: tape for you? Is it you study NFL? Do you
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: study college? Are you one of these guys that will
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: go into a hole and just start learning everything around
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the league, or are you more Here's what we do,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: here's how we have to get better, here's our personal
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I'm always fascinating because you talk to these coaches and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of you guys on the offensive side of
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the ball, it's hey, did you see what Eastern Kentucky
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: did this year? Or did you see what they do
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: out in Boise State? You know, it's it's interesting and
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I know that some people curate that stuff online, but
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: we as fans and me and the media like I
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily have that same nose for it as the
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: coaching set world does what do you do over the
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: off season better and hone your skills?
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, unfortunately, the off season is here, you know, and
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: it was you know, last year getting here, because again
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: it's not the offense we ran in New York or
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: it's not San Francis. I had to learn this system,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: you know, and what the intricacies of this one is.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: And so there was less study in last year on
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: other teams. It was more, Okay, what do we got
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: and you know, here's what we did, and let's let's
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: mold it to the two thirteen rams for two twenty
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: three rams, excuse me. And so that's what we did.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: And now this year you get to you get to
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: go out again and hey, we got this system. Okay,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: now what can we incorporate? What's the trends and flows
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: of the league and the defenses and stuff like that
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: if we hadn't picked up on it from just our
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: weekly game plan. And so that'll be fun, you know,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: as far as like the colleges and stuff like that.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: You study so many of these guys coming out of
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: the draft that you inevitably are watching their skins too,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: and some of them you did. I mean, you're like,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: what is going on here? You know, And it's it's unique.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: It's cool. It's a whole different game, the college game.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: A lot of respect for what they're doing it, but
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: it's it's like foreign it doesn't even feel like the
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: same game half the time. But that's where that's where
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: I know me personally. That's where you you know, if
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: there's something schematically that someone's doing, I'm not watching eighteen
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: per se, I'm watching the players. And then he that's
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: kind of cool and we'll fit. I don't know, you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: you just kind of use your own brain there and
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: you go from there. But that's kind of the process
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: of what will happen up until when the players get back.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: You know, my relationship with McVeigh, I'm not in the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: building every day, but we're just friends and we've been
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: friends for years and I respect his coaching ability. What
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: did you learn from Sean McVeigh? What did you see
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: this year? Working for him so much?
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: He is you know, he's asked me, He goes, did
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: you expect it to be like this? And I don't
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: know what I expect. I just expected to come into
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: a place where you're going to work with really good
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: people and starting from the top. Our ownership, they're awesome.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: That the La Rams building is so cool because it's
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: it's just ball. It's ball and good people you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: and it was it was extremely refreshing. It's so fun
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: to go to work every day because of because of
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: that building and lesson Sean. He Sean is is demanding.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: He gets the most out of these guys. You know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: he's extremely urgent. Like I've told him. Our walkthroughs are
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: the first walkthrough as a part of in Phase two
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: back in April or May whenever, it was, I go,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: that's the best walk through I've ever been a part
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: of the first one, and it just was because and
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: it's the players didn't know any better. That's just what
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: they do here, you know. And that's the culture he
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: set up and and there's there's never any issues, you know.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: So he's got he's got full command of this thing.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: He's such a great leader, he's such a great person.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: It's obviously a good extent nose coach, no doubt. But
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: there's so much more that goes into it that people
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: don't see in terms of, you know, obviously the leadership
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: and the relationships he has with these guys, you know,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: and it's it's it was really cool. I don't know
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: what happened here in the past, obviously, I just know
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: they want a lot of football games. Yeah, but but
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I know he's having a lot of fun and that's, uh,
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: that's cool. That's really cool for for for me, and
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: I think all the other coaches watch him have fun
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: and really enjoying this thing.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: What'd you learn from Kyle? What was your big takeaway
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: from Kyle when you say I'm going to take this
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: on too all my next jobs, Like, what do you think,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, What's what's the big the big give me
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna bring that with you.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of in that same mold of like
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: this league doesn't wait for you. You know, you better
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: be urgent, you know, and and everything you do from
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: a coaching and player perspective, and because there's there's thirty
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: two teams and you know, everyone knows what that end
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: goal is. He doesn't overly talk about winning or going
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: to Super Bowls or any of that stuff. It's just
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: what do we got to do today to be better?
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: And the way they practice up there, the physicality that
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: they bring on a daily basis that that comes to
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: fruition on Sundays, you know, but it's not just you
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: know once in a while, it's it's just how they
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: do things up there, so fun of respect for him
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: is again I know I'm kind of broken record with
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: saying it, but he's an incredible.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: These are two of the top offensive minds in the
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: history of the sport, like, and you've worked for both
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: of them as their right hand men. Like, I think
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: that's a pretty cool gig for you. And I think
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting to get your insights because you have
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: a different vantage point than us on the outside. Whoor
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, look at this play they drew up.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's the plays are They're cool. But everyone
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: can draw a cool place. I mean, my daughter's over here, guys,
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Like it's kind of good. Got it from mad you know,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: it's let's implement it, you know, and usually it will
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: work with Matthew, Stafford and Hook and Cooper, but it's there.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: There's so much more to this thing and and you know,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: and like you said, Kyle, Kyle does it at a
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: level that's that's awesome. And you know, love him like
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: a brother, you know, so he's Uh, I owe a
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: lot to him.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I've got two more on like other coaches, and I
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: think you have to understand on this podcast, it's a
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: lot of coaches who listen. So anytime we get insights on,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you know, the dynamics between then we love it when
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: when you and Mike McDaniel are both coming up with
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Obviously there was the past game coordinator,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: there's a run game coordinator, there was different titles. He
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: gets the job in Miami, did you envision him, you know,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: doing all this razzle dazzle and the motion stuff. And
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I guess now two years in, would you say you're
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: super exciting for what he's become and what he's got
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: his offense doing.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, And it's like he looks so comfortable
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: in his role too. You know, I don't watch any
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: of the hard knocks and stuff like that. I heard
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: it's pretty pretty entertaining. And and but but the one
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: thing that keeps coming out of from those players in
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Miami that that are open about is he is who
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: he is. He's not trying to be someone he's not.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: He's going to be the same personality every single day. Obviously,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: he has done some incredible things on offense there, you know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: and it's it's not surprising he puts a lot of
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: time into it almost probably you know too, much time
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: when you know what time he wakes up in the
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: morning and stuff like that. But he he's a he's
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: a ball guy and he loves it. And I know
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: the players they got us back there too.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Did you think his personality would work as a head coach?
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: And the big knock and hear the question was, how
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: is you know? He's just like really curious thinker. He's
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: got this long drawn out of it and yet the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: players absolutely love him. But I remember coming up they
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: were like, I don't know if the players are going
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: to be able to connect with Mike McDaniel. I would say,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If that's the case, I think he
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: actually might connect with them better because he's himself and
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: he's authentic.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: He's authentic. That's the exact word I was going to use.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: He's he's true to himself. And I mean leaders come
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: in all shapes and sizes, right, and as long as
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: you are who you are, you're true to yourself. You're
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: not some you're not trying to be someone that you're not.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: Players see that. They can see through BS. I mean
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: they're professionals. They can see through BS at an elite level,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: you know, and I know Mike just goes in there
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: and his main goal is He's very smart, obviously, but
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: his his main goal is to maximize these players. And
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: if if the players feel that and know that, which
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: they do, they'll they'll play for you, you know, they'll
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: play hard for you, and they'll and they'll respect you,
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: and you know, so that's it's been cool to watch
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: because Mike hasn't changed. It's the same guy he was,
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: as you know, a receiver coach in Cleveland and when
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: I first met him, when he was in Houston. Obviously
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: he's just gotten a little bit older. And you know,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: it's not surprising at all.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: And there's most of your former player having twenty one
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: touchdowns as a Miami Dolphin, and you're like, yeah, I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: could see that totally.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: You know, it's what a what a cool story for him. Gosh,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: you know, cut five six times, I don't know. And
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: then twenty eighteen, he obviously at the back end of
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen year, on our way to the Super Bowl,
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: he statistically I think was the top you know, I
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: mean it seemed like he was averaging about one hundred
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: and twenty a game. But even in eighteen he had
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: some games where, you know, I remember going up to
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Lamba when he played really well there and it was
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: just putting it kind of all together. And there he
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: was in nineteen doing that. And you know, obviously him
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: and Mike have a really really close relationship, unique relationship,
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: and it's been cool to watch him, you know, over
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: there do his thing.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I had Sala on the podcast last season and he
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: told a great story about him and Matt were roommates together,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: but they were living in like a one bedroom and
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: they were eating you know, Domino's pizza every night, or
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: might have been whatever, Little Caesars, whatever, the Detroit style
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: delivered whatever's in Mount Pleasant, Michigan, where Central Michigan was,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: and that like for warm, hot meals. They would come
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: over your house and like you would like you and
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: your I guess it was your wife or a girlfriend
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a time, I don't know. You guys would cook them
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: meals and be like I got you even though you're
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the younger sibling. I know how tight you are with
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Sala as well. What was it like working with Robert
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and for Jets Vans listening? Obviously you're now with the Rams,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: but like if they were wondering, like, well, what do
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: we gotten a head coach? What would you say about Salah?
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Extremely extremely smart? Like it like he finds a way.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: And yes, they would come over when we were in
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: high school. It was my girlfriend at the time obviously
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: my wife now, and yes they would take over the
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: TV and it just was like, can you guys just
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: get out of here so we can just do our thing.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: But anyway, that's for another time as well. But he
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: is the thing that solid does so well, is uh
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: he he can he makes things very simple for I
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: think the players, like it's you could tell you know,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: his thought process and then he makes it where it's
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: extremely easy for the players to understand exactly what what
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: what he's asking from them, and not just from a
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: defensive perspective, but from a team perspective. His team meetings
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: or are awesome. I know, the players love it, the
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: stories that he gives and how he ties it all together,
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: uh with with you know, whatever week we're playing, and
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: the players that that he has. So there's a lot
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: of factors that go into what's going on right now.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: I won't even you know, won't get into all of them,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: but a lot of respect for for Robert and uh,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: you know, as long as they're not playing the rams,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: you know, I wish them all the best.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Obviously, that's cool and that's mature of you. Obviously. All right,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: real real quick, you yourself. So your older brother is
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: in coaching, you're in coaching. What was the floor household
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: like as kids? And was this like your destiny? Like
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I don't even know it was? Your pop's a coach?
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Like how did it come to be? It's so cool
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: that two siblings from Grand Rapids, Michigan. Is that where
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: you guys grew up?
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Were we grew up in maltplus you grew up.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: In Mount Pleasant proper? Okay? So Mount Pleasant, Michigan? How
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: did this happen? And it was like, were you like
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: football in a crib type deal? Or is this you
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: guys who both independently loved it?
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, everyone in our family as coaches, starting
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: with my grandpa. He was a high school head coach
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: at mostly a school down in KILMAZOOKELMA was and Lloye RKS,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: but he was a head coach at other places as well.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: And so my mom obviously grew up just in and
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: around football, and then when she went to Central Michigan,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: my dad was there playing and obviously started dating and
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: got married, you know, and Da da da, and then
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: my dad, once he got done playing, ended up coaching
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: at Central Michigan for twenty some odd years, and so
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: that's what we grew up doing. You know. I got
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: asked because we were going into fort Field, how many
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Detroit Lions games went to I went to zero growing
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: up because my dad was coaching at Central, and so
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: we didn't know anything better than Saturdays and MAC football.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: That was before MAC was played on Monday through Friday.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: It was Saturday one o'clock games.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Like Dan Lefever, Like, who are we talking about? Like
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I go back before.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: That, it's even before that, long.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Before JJ Watt. We're talking yeah, oh.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is uh gosh, I couldn't even give
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: you some of the names, but Brian Prewitt and Joe
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: Youngblood and uh, I mean, Matt would actually probably be
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: the one better because my dad got let go when
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: I was in fifth grade, but in which my brother
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: was a senior, so he had all eighteen years, you
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: could say, of being there on the sidelines with my dad.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Just football, chip AWAF football, you know, and that's who
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: is your favorite team? Michigan, Michigan now Central Michigan.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: That was the only team, you know, and uh so,
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: you know, and then when he got like, oh, he
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: ended up being the high school head coach for a
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: few years and then an assistant and stuff like that.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: So never had a move. Matt and I grew up
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: in the same house.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: What a blessing, right as you and Matt have jumped
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: from place to place just pursuing a career, which is
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: all noble and it's been great. What a cool deal
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: that you guys grew up in the same town in
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: a coaching life. It's unheard of.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Same house, same town, you know, So you had the
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: same friends and you know, like we were just saying,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I met my wife at you know, in Mount Pleasant.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: We started dating in junior high and had a little
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: hicc up there in around eighth grade or something like that,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: but got back together in early high school and eighth.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Grade dance was intense though, like a lot of things happened.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of drama. There's the other Yes, I
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: Dude, I had to figure some things out, obviously. But
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: they started dating again in high school and ended up
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: going to college together and got married and dah da dah.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: You know. So her dad actually played at Central Michigan
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: when my dad, she was there, you know, absolutely, Yeah,
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: he was a receiver back in the day when they
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: put their hand in the dirt there in the seventies
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: and eighties. So yeah, it was Yeah, it was really
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: cool though. We got to be in that same house.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: And ironically, Matt finally moved them out of there a
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: year ago. And you know, they're they're obviously retired there
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: and you're supposed to go south, and he moved them
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: to Green Bay just to have some built in babysitters. Yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: don't let them tell you no.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: No, That's exactly why I get it, dude. I was
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: thinking you were going to say to Naples, Florida, or
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: to Palm Springs. No, green Bay, You're coming here. You're
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: gonna help out.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Like I'm going I'm supposed to go see the grandparents,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: but I'm not going to Green Bay to go say, like,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: you guys want to come out here, come out here.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: This is a vacation, all right.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: And then you get through college and it's like it's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: a no brainer, or did you have you know, I
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: know everyone's got like, well, at first I was doing
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: pharmaceutical sales sometimes like did you take other lanes or
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: was it coaching from the go?
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: You know? So Matt always we both knew we were
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: going to be coaches, obviously, And if you ask Matt
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: you know today, and I'd say the same thing, like
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: He's like, man, if I could ever just be the
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: quarterback coach at Central Michigan, like I've made it, you know,
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Like what a cool gig that would be. And so
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: that we I mean, there was no aspirations of anything
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: other than just trying to be the best you can
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: be and wherever you land out, make it the best
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: you can. And when I got to college, I went
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: to a Division III school in Chicago called Elmhurst and
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: it was not state tuition, and my parents were teachers,
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: and so they made that very known and they said, hey,
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: if you're going to go to this school, why don't
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: you like go into business or something or economics. I'm like, yeah,
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: you know what, maybe I will pursue that. And I
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: got through about the first two months of those classes
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: and I called my mom. I said, I can't do that.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: This is not for me. I'm not smart enough to
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: be doing these things. So and she goes I was
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: waiting for the call.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Shot.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: I gave it a shot, and I went to change
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: it to education. And knowing that, you know, I'll get
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: my education degree and try to land on as a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: grad assistant somewhere. I guess when I, you know, got
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: out and never even g eight and I got right
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: to Division two squad. I hadn't even graduated yet, and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: I got offered a job at a Division two school
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: and a little place in Indiana and that it's called
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: Saint Joseph's College. Don't look it off because it doesn't
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: even exist.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: And it really shut down for real.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: It's not just the football program, not this is a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: costure of Raheem and the whole school just just gone.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: And unfortunately, I had some someboddies that were still coaching
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: every time, and you know, they all landed on their
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: feet and all that. But so we're there for three years.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: That was the first three years. And I don't want
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: to say the most fun three years, but it was
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: really fun.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Isn't that?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? You say it's fun, you're making no money.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're working there, and it's like Saint Joseph's College,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: and yet here you are, you were the offensive coordinator
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: of the New York Jets and the Los Angeles Rans.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: We're like, that's my pure joy was just coaching football,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: you know it was.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: And still have incredible relationships with a lot of those guys.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: You know, still text with them, you know all the time.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: You get a lot of text of those guys on
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Sundays and stuff like that. One of the guys we
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: that that's currently on the New York Jets staff, Billy
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: vander Murky's QC there. He's just needs an opportunity to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: get a position job because he'll kill it. He was.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: He was our quarterback there at Saint Joe and he'll
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: he'll tell you threw ten touchdowns in the game. I
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: think it's I think it's still a D two retired
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: the record that, yeah, it was. It was pretty And
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: the funny part about it was, I won't go too far,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: but he, uh, the week before he didn't play very well,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: and I was, in my mind, I was right a bench.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: It was done. Philly. It's happened.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: He was done. He had he had this one last
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: op and he made the most of that up.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I love that all right, and then your first NFL
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: gig was where the Browns in fourteen? Who gave you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: that call? Kyle gave you that call? Or it was
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: from from who Mike Petton had it all work together
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: when he ended up in Cleveland.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was my brother calling me. I was down
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: at Davidson and we were just we just finished signing dates,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: so you're like you could kind of breathe, you know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: and we were kind of just Loren and I were
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: just kind of planning our next couple of months, like,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: all right, we know our weekends are somewhat free, there's
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: no more recruiting and stuff like that. And then I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: got a call it like ten o'clock on a Sunday night,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: saying that I was going to Cleveland. I didn't really
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: had no choice to go to You're going to Cleveland,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: I thought, I go, and I thought Matt was talking
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: about himself. I go, So I thought you were going
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: to Notre Dame. He goes, No, You're going to Cleveland,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: I said, when he goes tomorrow morning. So I packed
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: up my stuff trove from Charlotte to Cleveland and that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: was that. And then saw Kyle in the office and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: there we were and that.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Was it, and that's it's so crazy. So you go
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: up there to Cleveland, it's that wild year where Kyle
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: was there, and it's Johnny Manzel at quarterback and it's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Brian hohere I want to say, was the other qb? Right,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: you guys start off like six and three, it's the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: talk of the town and then it goes kind of
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: off the rails. But an opportunity to get in there
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: at that junior level, What would be your advice to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: somebody who's starting off an entry level job in the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: NFL as far as like soaking it all in And
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: you were coming from Davidson, which wasn't exactly Notre Dame
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, but you'd had some coaching experience. A lot
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: of these young men and women come in straight off,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: you know, not having any experience at the college game.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: What would be our advice to them kind of getting
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: in the NFL building.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously, be who you are, Be true
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: to yourself, don't you know. You got to do your
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: job at the best of your ability. All cliche stuff,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: no doubt, you know. But the other thing is like
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: kind of know your role too, Like keep your mouth
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: shut a little bit too, when you know, like it's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: you all got great ideas. I'm sure kai annoyed Kyle
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: talking too much about what we were doing in college.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Would you would you be that way? Would you be like, hey,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: look what we did at Davidson, Let me show you
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: this pot.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: No. No, I probably did one or two times, and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: he probably looks back at that. But I don't know.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's it is. It's hard to get
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: your foot in the door, no doubt, you know. And
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: when you do, you just obviously, like you do anything
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: else in life, you go attack it and you be
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: the best you can be, and you know, stay in
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: your lane and went afficable and then go from there.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna wrap, but before we do, I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: just want to thank you. I think you're an awesome
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: coach in your own right. And then now you've got this,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: this opportunity to go watch your brother play, Kyle. I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: think they've faced in the playoffs three times so far, right,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys beat them twice back to back years,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: and then they went up to Lambeau and beat the Niners,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: beat the Packers. So this is one of those games.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Where this is this this will be the third because
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: we beat him twice in nineteen in the regular season.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Then then beat him in the playoffs.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: And then and then in twenty one, after the first
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: year in the Jets, we ended up going out to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: Lambeau and that was that was Nike.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: That's why Kyle, Kyle has Trent Williams running in motion
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: like he's a wide receiver and they beat they beat
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: the Packers. As you look at this one, this is
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: the first time where Matt's the big underdog and it's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: it's always been that. It's always been Rogers coming in
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: and you look at this game, like your brother, you
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: gotta be so proud of what he's done with this group.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: As you know, they've won fourteen games and regular seasons
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: and he's been awesome and won all these games. But like,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: this has been a really cool season for your older brother.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: It's been it's been really fun. It's uh, and I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: know he is. I don't know if he's having the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: most fun he's ever had, but it sure seems like he's,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: you know, just absolutely loving going into work every day
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: with these guys, these coaches, and like we were saying,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lot of guys stuffing up. They
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: don't even know any better, right, I mean, these all
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: these guys that haven't played in these big games, they're
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: just out doing their thing right now. And what a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: credit to these players. And again, what what Jordan's done.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: It's it's been really fun to watch from afar.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Is there a vacation after the season where the families
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: get together and maybe you invite Sala, maybe you invite Kyle,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: maybe Sean mcveaghat's an invite this year? Like what's the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: hang session in the downtime and who is the crew?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah? It's uh, last year, you know, last year was
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: wild with everything going on, but ended up we had
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: a really fun one. We had to the Bahamas with
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: Raheem and Nikki kids who are who are the same
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: age as uh, you know, my kids. And then obviously
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: Matt and Breather two kids were down there, so we
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: ended up doing that. That was awesome. We always kind
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: of get together, Sean, Sean's gonna have a little.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Bit of different, Yeah, a little in the mix.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: I said, get used to get used to your house, buddy,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: because you're not gonna be leaving there as much, you know.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Funny McVeigh and Veronica used to go to Cabo right
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: after this season and they would go to like the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: the mal Dives, or they'd go to the French riviera.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you've got a five month old, nobody enjoy
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Enjoy being at home my friend, and go go find
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: to me on Netflix.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be more like Santa Barbara Trips,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: which again love that, but let's not act like this
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: is a you know, this is a pretty cool place
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: down here. So yeah, we'll end up getting somewhere, you
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: know right now, it's we'll get there next week, and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: you know, at least it's so it's up at Levi's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: post Lamba as much as Matt would probably rather have
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: it at Lambeau. Yeah, I'm happier it's up there.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Hear you, Michael Floor. This was awesome. We're gonna have
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: you on again in the offseason. We'll do a deeper dive.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: We'll go through everything. But I love that you would
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: hop on, especially a couple of days remove from what
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: was a a heartbreaking loss. But be like, dude, an
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: awesome football game, and I know it's the wounds are fresh,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: but I think you'll be able to appreciate that in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the months that come.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate you having me on. And it should
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: be a fun weekend of games. Huh.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: All right, Lafloor Verus Shanahan Part four? Is that what
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: we agreed on? Or three or something like that.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know four or five. We had a COVID
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: game too, but it was everyone's just kind of yeah,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: I forget it.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Was a Thursday night COVID game. I remember that one.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: That was it. That was all right, Mike. I appreciate you, bro,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining the podcast.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Thanks Peter, appreciate you man.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Aaron, what do you think of Michael Floor.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I love getting coaches that like can talk about the interescase.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, all the coaches clearly can talk about a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: play or a player, but hearing him talk Stafford was
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: so cool. Like the story was Puka this year, the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: story was Kiren, and for him to just so be
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: so on board with Stafford and like talk about how
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: tough he is.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I love hearing good stuff about, like, you know, when
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: a coach is just all on board with the player.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I think I've said that plenty of times on the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: show too.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: But no, I love that, and I love your appreciation
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: of it. I think you're really good when you listen
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: to these guys, you come right out of it and
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: you have like the right takeaway. I think the Stafford
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: thing was huge. I also the twenty nineteen forty nine
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: ers staff. In my head, I'm like, oh, he's coach
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: all these guys I thought would be a good one.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: But what I found really interesting is like, yeah, well,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: a year earlier, we all coach in the Senior Bowl, which,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: if you're not aware, he is usually reserved for the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: first or second worst team in the NFL. So those
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: same guys, those same young coaches were coaching as the
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: thirty first and thirty second teams in the league. They
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: were the same ones that we're looking at now, Like, Wow,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: what a coaching staff. And to repeat what he said,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: it's him Chris Casarah, who he kind of mentioned as
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: just like a given. You might not know his name.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: He's a defensive line coach for the forty nine ers.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Think about their defensive line over the years with Bosa
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: and Ormstead and Buckner for years, and now it's Hargrave
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: and and of course you've got Chase Young. Like they're
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: always the most dominant. He's their defensive line coach. Then
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: in that same room with Bobby Slowick, who started off
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, they went to
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: officer the Bobby's now the offensive Cornerata Houston probably gonna
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: get a head coaching job this year. Mike McDaniel, Demko Ryans,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Robert Sala. I want to say Wes Welker was on
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: that staff, John Embry, who's now doing big things with
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: McDaniel down in Miami. Like they have a loaded coaching
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: staff from that twenty nineteen San Francisco forty nine ers team,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and they've all been placing different places and are all
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: succeeding elsewhere. I love that coaching tree stuff in there,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: with that graphic of the twenty thirteen Washington Redskins coaching staff,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: which was McDaniel and lafleur and McVeigh and Chanance almost dated.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: You almost have to update it with this one. That's
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the new version of it.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: And I also love, I mean, along those lines with
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: like them doing this the Senior Bowl. I like to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: hear when coaches or players or gms whatever have had
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: a rough year or a rough two years and then
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: go on and the immediately the next year succeed and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: so that was just like that's a cool thing too,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Like you didn't you guys talked about it like he
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: was in New York and then he wasn't all right.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: So, if we want to be candid, he got fired
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: in New York and kind of was the scapegoat, like
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: and sala Is one of his best friends, and the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: whole thing was really awkward. And then it almost was
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: seamless because they brought in Rogers, who then brought in
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: his own guy, and it's like, well, Mike, you know,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: it's better off with Sean McVeigh anyway, But like, it
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: sucks to get fired, and we didn't hit on it.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe I should have hit on it. I was I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: don't think the conversation was going that place, but like
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: that's the dark side of coaching. Yeah, the Jets offense
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't great last two years. He also had a rookie
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: quarterback in Zach Wilson and then a second year quarterback
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: in Zach Wilson, who I think we see Zach Wilson now.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's necessarily going to be a starter
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: anywhere in the league next year. So a lot of
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: things could be said about his time in New York,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: but all right, McVeigh said, I believe everyone who's coached
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: with you thinks you're the guy. And I think their
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: offense was awesome this year, and he's being humble, but
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Michael Floora is very responsible for what that offense was.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if Puka Nakua has the greatest
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver season ever if the offensive coordinator isn't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: dialing it up and giving him the confidence to be
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: that guy.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: And him saying, you know, I think you asked, you know,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: like was it the intention to get pook at twenty
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: targets in Week two kind of thing? And it was like, no,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: you know, if we're we're doing everything right, we're not
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: forcing it to anybody, but great players are going to
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: get the ball and we're gonna make and you just
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: rattled off like we're gonna get to to the ball,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: We're gonna get Kayra into the ball, and like he
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: these were weapons that they had last other than Pooka,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: and I guess Kyrien because he was injured last year.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: These were weapons that were already on the team last year.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: And we're not making huge waves and then he comes
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: in and now all of a sudden, the Rams offense
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: was were world beaters on a down year?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: A cup too? Like that was yeah, yeah, yeah, that
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: was awesome. All right, I'm gonna quickly, right, is there
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: anything else NFL wise as we head towards an awesome
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: divisional round week? You want to hit like, I'm trying
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: to think if there's anything. We start off in the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: monologue and I don't know. I just this is my
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: real favorite weekend. I could smile and talk about it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football. How much I love Wildcar Weekend?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I do, But this is where the big dogs come out,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: those one seeds come out, and it's almost like the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: royal rumbo, where all right, who's next into the ring? Oh?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Those guys are still around, the Niners and the Ravens,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: who are by far the two best teams all all
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: season long. They're gonna be hosting playoff games against the
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Packers and the Texans, respectively. I might go to Baltimore
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: and this is like, who cares? But I wouldn't be working.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I'd be going I don't have the Fox pregame show
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: this weekend, and I Baltimore is a train ride away,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: and as sick as I am, I kind of want
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: to see the Ravens in person, either this week or
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: if they win, maybe the AFC Championship game if I'm
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: not working for Fox that week, because I want to
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: take my son to see Lamar in person. It's his
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: favorite player. So I might. I might be in the building.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: It might be too cold. I might just watch it
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: on my couch, which is fine.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of too cold, I mean, we had a
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: snow game in Buffalo yesterday. We're gonna have another snow
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: game probably this weekend.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: There.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Shout out to my uncle who was in the stands
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: wearing an electric heated jacket to stay warm for the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: whole thing.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: What's your uncle's name.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Neil, Neil, Neil Kaufman. And he was, you know, we
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: we when I was up in Maine with my dad,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: we facetimed with him after a couple of the games,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: and he was there last night, and uh, you know,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: we don't we don't have to talk about the Bills game.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm very excited they did. They did really well.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Love seeing that Shakir touchdown and playing. Well, oh that's great.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: They're injured though, Yeah, every week.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: You could say that, so you know, I know nothing.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Neil, shout out to the fact that
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: game is in Buffalo. I can't wait to watch that
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: one that's on Sunday night, Aaron, would you go to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: that Sunday night in Buffalo? Would that be interest to you?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Or no? If I went to Saturday in Baltimore, would
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: you go to Sunday in Buffalo? Sure?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I'm not would of course, yeah, of
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: course I wouldn't. I I mean, other than like having
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: to get there. Yeah, that's the only thing, right, Maybe
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: we make that happen. I you know, I have not
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: been to a Bills game.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Since what do you need for me? I need?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Like, you need me to help you with a credential
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: and then you need me to buy a flight in
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Like what do we need the NFL to do here?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Because I think that would be great first person experience.
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  Speaker 2: I think I need. I would also probably need de
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  Speaker 2: Vito's agents walk in closet. I want a room full
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  Speaker 2: of suits.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, top that off topic. If the Melafan
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  Speaker 1: Wu is one of these defensive backs of the Lions
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  Speaker 1: making plays all over the place, his agent is on Stillado,
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  Speaker 1: Stellato posted a photo of himself in like a royal
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  Speaker 1: blue suit, all lions down. He's still doing it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: F the haters, Stellato's now forget DeVito. He's on too.
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  Speaker 1: I female fon wou And by the way, as we
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  Speaker 1: all celebrated, you know Tommy DeVito's mature decision to move
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  Speaker 1: on to a different marketing agent. I don't exactly see
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  Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito at the met gala. By the way, I
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  Speaker 1: think I think the Vito did a did a fine
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  Speaker 1: job with marketing with Seawan Stillato, they got some things done. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that was a great moment in a season
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  Speaker 2: that's had a ton of really good quarterback moments. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, like you were saying earlier, we now have
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  Speaker 2: the CJ. Stroud Jordan Love stories.
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  Speaker 1: We move on. Yeah, yeah, we move on. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to the season with Peter Shaker delivering results by Uber Eats.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for delivering results presented by Uber Eats. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna give a player an award for who delivered the
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  Speaker 1: most this past week, and I'm gonna give it to
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Love. I thought Jordan Love was amazing, absolutely ripped
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  Speaker 1: apart the Dallas Cowboys. They were big underdog seven seed,
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  Speaker 1: and Love looks like the best quarterback in football right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a big task ahead going up against San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco in their defense this weekend. But after seeing what
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  Speaker 1: he did Dallas, I have no doubt that he has
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  Speaker 1: what it takes to get it done. They just need
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  Speaker 1: to put it all together this weekend. Jordan Love truly
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  Speaker 1: awesome story this season. They were two and five at
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  Speaker 1: one point, they were three and six at one point,
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  Speaker 1: and now they're knocking on the door to the NFC
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  Speaker 1: Championship Game. Jordan Love is our winner of the Delivering
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  Speaker 1: all right, everybody, we'll see you next week. By that time,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Belichick's coaching the Dallas Cowboys, or the Philadelphia Eagles
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  Speaker 1: or Atlanta Falcons. Maybe Jim Harbo's coaching the Chargers, or
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: maybe Pete Carroll's coaching a CFL team. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what it's going to be. Hopefully we'll
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  Speaker 1: get some more clarity, but we will be down to
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  Speaker 1: our final four and then itampionship weekend. Cannot wait. It's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: football season on behalf of Aaron Wan Kaufman, Jason English
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  Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, real quick, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: leave this in to our two producers out on the
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  Speaker 1: West Coast. Good guys, Matt Schneider and Jason Kleinman. They
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  Speaker 1: are Arizona Wildcat diehards. Sorry about Jedfish. I think the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Jedfish to Washington move is not looked wonderfully upon by
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  Speaker 1: the Arizona Wildcat fans. I think on Friday, Jed said
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  Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere than on Saturday, except that a
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  Speaker 1: fifty five million dollar deal to go work for the
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  Speaker 1: University of Washington. We take a lot of pride and
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  Speaker 1: that we helped put Jed on the map a little
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  Speaker 1: bit nationally with his interview in August. He went and
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  Speaker 1: had an amazing season and now he's a lot richer
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  Speaker 1: than all of us combined and with a lot more
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  Speaker 1: successful and hopefully he'll come on the podcast again, but
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: he will not be coaching the Arizona Wildcats, and I
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  Speaker 1: apologize for that to our two producers, Matt and Jason,
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  Speaker 1: who are great guys. They're on the West Coast. Sorry. Boys. Also,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: I want to pick everyone else involved who does the
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