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Dragnet: The Big Quack (EP1712) · Great Detectives of Old Time Radio Volume 2|Mystery Audio Dramas

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  Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty It's the Big Quack.
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  Speaker 2: In Colorado Springs, Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: Dragnet honors fifty seventh Annual Conference of the International Association
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  Speaker 3: of Chiefs of Police. The story you're about to hear
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  Speaker 3: is true, only the names have been changed to protect
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  Speaker 3: the innocent. Drag Net. You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned
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  Speaker 3: to burglary detail. A man posing as a doctor is
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  Speaker 3: burglarizing homes in your city. You have his description, your
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  Speaker 3: job find him. Dragnet the documented story of an actual crime.
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  Speaker 3: For the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Police Department, you will travel step five step on
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  Speaker 3: the side of the law through an actual case from
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  Speaker 3: official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.
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  Speaker 3: Dragnet is the story of your police force and action.
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  Speaker 4: It was Sunday, November twenty second, was chilly in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 4: We were working a day watch out of burgery detail.
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  Speaker 4: My partner's Ben Romero, the boss of Stad Brown Chief Detectives.
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  Speaker 2: My name's Friday.
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  Speaker 4: It was nine thirty five am when we got to
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  Speaker 4: five nine one eight Canyon Cove, the home of Marla Hutchins.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, miss Marla Hutchins.
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  Speaker 5: I'm miss Marla Hutchins.
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  Speaker 2: We're police officers.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 2: This is Sergeant Romero. I'm Sergeant Friday, Central Burgery.
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  Speaker 5: Come in.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Betty told me she called you your name.
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  Speaker 7: Yet I'm very great.
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  Speaker 2: I called you and if you could tell us what
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  Speaker 2: happened please.
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  Speaker 6: Doctor Arthur shult he was treating me for headaches. I
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  Speaker 6: am took my mint coaches and my jewelry.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a list of what's missing?
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  Speaker 5: Betty will have a list of what's missing here.
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  Speaker 7: I've written down everything.
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  Speaker 5: I say.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you. Well, why do you say it was
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  Speaker 2: this doctor Schulte? Is that right?
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  Speaker 7: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you say it was him that took things?
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  Speaker 5: Miss such as he did it?
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  Speaker 7: I know did the doctor was the only other person
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  Speaker 7: in the apartment off?
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  Speaker 2: When was this last night? What time was the doctor
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  Speaker 2: here last night?
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  Speaker 7: It was about eight I heard him leave later about
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  Speaker 7: nine fifteen?
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  Speaker 2: That right, missus, Yes, that's right. What could the apartment
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  Speaker 2: have been entered without either one of you knowing it.
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  Speaker 8: No, sir, the back dance is double latched, and no
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  Speaker 8: one could have broken in the front way. My room's
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  Speaker 8: right beside the front door, and I would have heard.
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  Speaker 9: You told us on the phone if this doctor Shulete
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  Speaker 9: was uh, middle aged, dark, rose to five feet eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Stocky and where's it goatee?
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  Speaker 8: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: No other distinguishing fentures? Is that's right?
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: How about his clothes? While he was dressed, he.
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  Speaker 8: Was about average. He had on a gray suit the
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  Speaker 8: last time, my son, won't you do you.
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  Speaker 7: Know who he is?
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  Speaker 10: We'll find out what kind of treatment were you taking
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  Speaker 10: from doctor schuletey as such.
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  Speaker 5: As we call it. I'm no therapy, my head.
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  Speaker 4: Aches last night the same thing, anything different from his
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  Speaker 4: previous visits.
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  Speaker 6: I was very nervous. I made me take three sleeping
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  Speaker 6: capsules and I went to sleep, and.
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  Speaker 8: She was still sleeping this morning when I went in
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  Speaker 8: and found everything in the dressing table all over the floor.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see, have you known this doctor schult Long with.
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  Speaker 5: Such about four months?
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  Speaker 2: Did you meet him at a party? Maybe? No?
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  Speaker 5: I was a student of his.
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  Speaker 2: Well, where was it a small.
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  Speaker 5: College in Hollywood. He was the head of the school.
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  Speaker 5: He was a teacher too.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have the name? And I addressed with the color.
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  Speaker 5: That he can give it to you. It's in my desk.
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  Speaker 2: Are you're still a student there? No?
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  Speaker 5: I don't take the course.
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  Speaker 2: I stopped.
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  Speaker 5: College was close. That's when he came here to treat
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  Speaker 5: me for.
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  Speaker 2: My hetic How did he start giving any treatments?
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  Speaker 5: Mis Sutchins? One day and he's lecture.
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  Speaker 6: I fainted to his office and told me that Payne
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  Speaker 6: was only a state of mind.
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  Speaker 5: State of mind. My headache didn't bother me anymore. He
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  Speaker 5: said that relief would only be temporary if I didn't
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  Speaker 5: take regular treatment.
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  Speaker 2: What did you see him regularly?
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  Speaker 6: I saw him twice a week, twice a week, always
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  Speaker 6: here at the college.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't it closed? I don't know why. He telephone said
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  Speaker 5: he would continue here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, where did you get in touch with him when
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  Speaker 2: the college closed?
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  Speaker 5: Never did he was called here.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any idea where he is now? No?
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  Speaker 5: I just know that he's a thief, Yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 7: Why don't you lie down, Miss Hutchins, You look tired alright?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Miss Hutchins, Yes, ma'am, thank you. Very much.
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  Speaker 7: Alright, Would you gentlemen like them coffee?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 10: Ben, I could chew use them, It would be very nice, Miss,
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  Speaker 10: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Officer, Yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 8: If this man's just a common thief, treatments he's been
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  Speaker 8: giving Miss Hutchins couldn't have been very good, could they?
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  Speaker 2: She still got the headaches, hadn't she?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Eleven fifty am. Would check the apartment for physical evidence.
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  Speaker 4: There was nothing to indicate that the place had been
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  Speaker 4: broken in to We put in a call the Latent
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  Speaker 4: Fingerprints to send a man out to check the closet
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  Speaker 4: and dresser.
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  Speaker 2: We completed the crime report, and Betty greg the maid,
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  Speaker 2: gave us.
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  Speaker 4: The name and address of doctor Shulte's college, the Los
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  Speaker 4: Angeles College of Psychotherapeutics and Psychiatry, at a Franklin Street.
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  Speaker 2: Number in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 4: Ben and I got out of teletype to Sacramento asking
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  Speaker 4: information on the chartering.
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  Speaker 2: Of the school that doctor Shulte was supposed to have headed.
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  Speaker 4: We checked on Betty greg the maid, and found that
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  Speaker 4: she was a Los Angeles girl parents still living in
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  Speaker 4: the city.
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  Speaker 2: She had a good reputation.
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  Speaker 4: Two thirty five pm we went to the address where
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  Speaker 4: the college had been.
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  Speaker 2: It was a big.
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  Speaker 4: Brown, clabbored house with several dormer windows facing the street.
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  Speaker 2: Was vacant. The front door was boarded up.
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  Speaker 4: A rental agency sign was stuck up on one of
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  Speaker 4: the pillars on the front porch.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 9: What room there must have been where they had classes.
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  Speaker 9: Those are chairs nailed done? See help me look?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see any papers inside.
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  Speaker 11: No mail.
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  Speaker 12: Hi, yep, my name's interested in the place.
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  Speaker 2: You're the agent?
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  Speaker 12: No, No, I just lived next door.
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  Speaker 13: I'm a dry cleaner myself, but I sort of promised
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  Speaker 13: the real estate, and I'm keep an eyepiels if I
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  Speaker 13: could help.
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  Speaker 12: Anyone get on.
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  Speaker 2: Police officers were just checking home.
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  Speaker 12: Was there something wrong? Somebody break in?
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  Speaker 2: Did you live next door when this was a school here?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, that's psychology bunch here here, but ten months maybe
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  Speaker 13: lest I always thought it was kind of a shoe
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  Speaker 13: string operation.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, you know, not much do they're just make it
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  Speaker 12: in me? No class, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, always just adults.
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  Speaker 13: Well, classes used to be mostly during the day. I
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  Speaker 13: was at work with wife. Used to tell me they're
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  Speaker 13: no kids that you or so.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know the man that ran the school?
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  Speaker 13: No, alad He was a middle aged guy with a
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  Speaker 13: kind of a pointed beard, had a palo younger.
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  Speaker 12: Guy never stopped to talk. They're pretty tight up.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, like I said, why would they do routine investigation?
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  Speaker 2: That's do you have any idea where they might be contacted? No?
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  Speaker 13: No, the interstate age and said they skipped without paying
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  Speaker 13: last month's runt for him.
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  Speaker 12: He's been trying to find them.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember their names?
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  Speaker 13: Oh well, let's see when with the older guy. The
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  Speaker 13: guy with a beard was named Schultz or something like that.
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  Speaker 13: I can't remember the young fello a little bit. Hey,
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  Speaker 13: wait a minute, and I got the door. I got
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  Speaker 13: their door. The agent let me have the front door.
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  Speaker 13: I'm building a party or ports in the back of
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  Speaker 13: my house. And the glass that I took out of
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  Speaker 13: the doors got the names letter on it. Come on,
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  Speaker 13: I'll see if I still got in the garage.
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  Speaker 12: It's right around there. Oh Chile today.
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  Speaker 2: Huh yeah.
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  Speaker 12: I want to stand back then and h you when
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  Speaker 12: I want the door?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, here we are.
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  Speaker 2: I like to keep a nice neat garage. Sure looks nice.
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  Speaker 14: Oh nice?
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  Speaker 2: Say that these men live in the house, mister Thompson.
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  Speaker 2: Did they just use it for the school? You know?
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  Speaker 13: Oh, best on.
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  Speaker 2: All just for classes.
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  Speaker 12: Like I said, they're pretty tight.
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  Speaker 2: Like guys, not very far, they're real fue Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I gotta just leave it right there. We'll come over there.
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  Speaker 4: You want to move it, let's see Los Angeles College
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  Speaker 4: of Psychotherapeutics and Societry Doctor Arthur William Shuelta.
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  Speaker 2: Shoelta d a A, pH D, sc D.
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  Speaker 10: Of course, Doctor Leo George Donaldson, DV, PhD, SCD. I
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  Speaker 10: got it you, okay, sign We're much obliged.
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  Speaker 14: Mister Thompson.
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  Speaker 2: Up here's our card. If you hear anything regarding these men,
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  Speaker 2: we'd appreciate you calling us.
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  Speaker 13: Oh sure, sure, be glad you were here. There's my
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  Speaker 13: card Ideal cleaners over an ivar. If you get around
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  Speaker 13: that way, why drop some stuff off us here? It
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  Speaker 13: gets special attention.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, Tom.
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  Speaker 12: No, that's okay, sure glad I didn't throw that glass away.
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  Speaker 2: Brother.
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  Speaker 12: Look at a lot of letters after the names.
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  Speaker 13: Eh, what do what it takes to get a lineup
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  Speaker 13: with degrees like that paint brush?
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  Speaker 2: In about ten minutes five pm, Ben and I drove
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  Speaker 2: back to the office.
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  Speaker 4: There was a report from Layton fingerprints nothing but the
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  Speaker 4: Prince of the two girls had been found in the
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  Speaker 4: Hutchins apartment. We checked what information we had on Shultey
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  Speaker 4: and Donaldson through.
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  Speaker 2: To the FBI on the teletype. The check of doctors
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  Speaker 2: registered with the.
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  Speaker 4: Los Angeles County Medical Association and the American.
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  Speaker 2: Psychiatric Association failed to turn up anybody named doctor Shulte.
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  Speaker 4: We had our Eye Bureau and Stat's office make runs
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  Speaker 4: on Leo Donaldson and Shulte and are run down on
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  Speaker 4: the reports where the burger had posed as a psychologist.
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  Speaker 4: The Stat's office turned up a couple of dozen new suspects.
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  Speaker 4: We pulled the mug shots and headed to the Hutchings apartment.
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  Speaker 10: It's like something doing at the Hutchings department has a
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  Speaker 10: lot of Cruiser.
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  Speaker 2: Car that's fellow Love, all right, I can't go in.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry with Friday Romero Central Burgery. Oh sure, Sorry, what's
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  Speaker 2: the trouble. Girl name of Hutchins shot herself.
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  Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police
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  Speaker 3: force in action.
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  Speaker 4: Monday, November twenty third, during the morning, the Coroner's office
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  Speaker 4: signed off Marla Hutchins case.
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  Speaker 2: The verdict was that she had taken her own life.
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  Speaker 4: The police psychiatrist told us that probably the hypnotic treatments
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  Speaker 4: by Schulte had hastened her death.
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  Speaker 2: The information we'd.
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  Speaker 4: Received from the Medical Association told us that they had
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  Speaker 4: had complaints against the operation of the Schulte school. They
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  Speaker 4: pointed out to us that it takes over twelve years
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  Speaker 4: and recognized medical schools to become a member of the
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  Speaker 4: American Psychiatric Association. Schulte had been mass producing the pseudo psychiatrists.
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  Speaker 2: In eight weeks we met with Captain Pulman.
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  Speaker 10: The school was a phony degrees and diplomas sold anybody
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  Speaker 10: who had cash.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not operating anymore, and we checked that out.
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  Speaker 14: They're going, oh, here's.
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  Speaker 2: The answer to your telet, Sacramento. Thank you.
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  Speaker 10: Give details on the application for the School of Shuley.
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  Speaker 10: He's listed as founder and Dean Donaldson has.
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  Speaker 2: Listed his staff. No addresses other than the Franklin Street number.
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  Speaker 2: There anything else. A month ago, leo' donaldson opened courses of.
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  Speaker 10: Construction in Los Angeles under the title of California Physicians
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  Speaker 10: College at Psychiafries seven eighty one.
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  Speaker 2: South Hill Street. Shulton associated with No have any idea
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  Speaker 2: where Shirley is. No, we don't but we're looking. We've
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  Speaker 2: got the support of the medical people to push a BUNCO.
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  Speaker 10: Charge for the operation of the old school. Donaldson should
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  Speaker 10: be able to give you a lead on Shirley Thankers.
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  Speaker 10: It might be in contact. Looks like the accent ran the.
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  Speaker 9: School together even though Shulte was legally responsible.
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  Speaker 4: And Ben and I have an idea on how maybe
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  Speaker 4: we can find out How's that We thought one of
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  Speaker 4: us could make our pitch to Donaldson, see if he'd
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  Speaker 4: sell a degree from the new school, get evidence to
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  Speaker 4: support a BUNCO warrant, and check at the same time
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  Speaker 4: to see if Donaldson has contact with Shuelte.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let BUNCO detail know. We're try. I think you
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  Speaker 2: can do it quite try know anything else about Donaldson's courses.
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  Speaker 4: No, that doesn't bother me. O come neither is Donaldson
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  Speaker 4: and trying to get Shulte through his former associate Leo Donaldson.
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  Speaker 4: We again contacted the Medical Association. They furnished this with
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  Speaker 4: the name of Ralph Morse, a graduate of the.
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  Speaker 2: Franklin Street School who had since been killed in an
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  Speaker 2: auto accident.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty am, Ben and I get the seven eighty one
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  Speaker 4: South Hill Street, a seventh story office building in the heart.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Los Angeles business system.
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  Speaker 4: The directory in the lobby listed the California Positions College
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  Speaker 4: of Psychiatry for rooms two fourteen and two sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: Ben waited outside in the car. I took the elevator up.
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  Speaker 2: He asked me, how, doctor Donaldson. I'm doctor Leo Donaldson.
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  Speaker 2: Have you have assistance?
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  Speaker 4: Well, my name is Frank Ditton. I wanted to ask
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  Speaker 4: about the curriculum here.
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  Speaker 9: We've just opened. Mister Ditton, we're not quite ready to
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  Speaker 9: start classes. You understand this is very advanced instruction. Most
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  Speaker 9: of our students would have had considerable background in psychiatry.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well, our friend of mine, doctor Morse, said.
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  Speaker 2: That they were sure I'd be a good student for you,
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  Speaker 2: doctor Morse. I'm not sure I placed him, but.
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  Speaker 4: He was one of your students at the Franklin Streets.
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  Speaker 4: Rule said that doctor Schulte know him quite well.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, oh yes, yes, I remember, brilliant man. How's he
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  Speaker 9: getting along?
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  Speaker 2: He was killed in a car collision. Oh that's too bad.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Frankly, what I was interested in is being able
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  Speaker 4: to take over his practice. Could I get the same
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  Speaker 4: deal he got?
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  Speaker 2: I think so, mister Didton, What do you have in mind.
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  Speaker 4: We'll take some courses and get a degree. I worked
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  Speaker 4: with Morris Broke while I can set up a clinic
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  Speaker 4: he did.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I figure maybe I can too.
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  Speaker 9: Well, here's a list of the courses we'll offer. I
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  Speaker 9: can't look over it together, and you can indicate what
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  Speaker 9: spirit sad you would like to undertake.
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  Speaker 2: Does doctor Shulte teach any of these courses? No, he doesn't. Now.
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  Speaker 9: The first semester will include Painless and Douglas's Childbirth Practical
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  Speaker 9: and Applied Psychology out.
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  Speaker 2: Of suggestion, prenatal suggestion.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, doctor Donaldson, A straight practical and applied
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  Speaker 4: psychology is the specialty.
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  Speaker 2: That I want to see? What degree do I get?
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  Speaker 2: And how much will it cost?
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  Speaker 9: Well, at least expensive is a doctor of Psychotherapy at
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  Speaker 9: four hundred and fifty dollars. A Doctor to Philosophy and
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  Speaker 9: Psychology is five hundred for all purposes if you can
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  Speaker 9: afford it. Mister Ditton is a doctorate of Science. That's
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  Speaker 9: eight hundred. That course once a thousand dollars at the
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: Franklin Street School.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't know. It's a lot of money. Yes,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: I have to have it though, and if you'd take
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: a checking out.
• 16:14
  Speaker 9: Certainly you understand what a tremendous advantage these degrees are
• 16:17
  Speaker 9: to the professional man, who, for one reason or another
• 16:20
  Speaker 9: may never have had a chance to get a college diploma.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Well, the course is very hard.
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: You look like an intelligent man, mister Ditton. I'm sure
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: you'd have no difficulty.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: All right, I'll say, Look, doctor, I live out in
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Van Eyes now, and I'm working three days a week
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: the present time. It's going to be pretty tough to
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: get downtown here.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Do I have to be here every day?
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: Since it's the diplomas most of our students are interested in,
• 16:40
  Speaker 9: we have on occasion made exceptions in cases like yours.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that we.
• 16:45
  Speaker 9: Could possibly, in the case of a doctorate of science,
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: present you with your diploma in advance. If you're taking
• 16:49
  Speaker 9: the course, and you could launch into a private practice
• 16:51
  Speaker 9: at once, take the course whenever it suited.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: You couldn't ask for a better deal. Everything's mentioned in.
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: This catalog, and the forums are in the back. Why
• 16:58
  Speaker 9: don't you sit down, I think very much.
• 17:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, rules and regulations, No books are required to students,
• 17:11
  Speaker 10: lots of break We lecture a little differently from some colleges,
• 17:14
  Speaker 10: and therefore we've dispensed with texts because we feel they
• 17:17
  Speaker 10: tend to confuse the data.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: When I take the course, who will be my instructor?
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I will Well Morse talked a lot about doctor Shulte.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Does he teach any of the classes?
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: Now, doctor Schulte was associated with me in the operation
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: of the Franklin Street School, but is not the staff
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: a member of the California Physicians College or psychiatry.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Well, Well is wondering if I paid extra, could I
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: get some classes with him? More so that he picked
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: up a lot of useful information from Shield.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: He's a fellow with a goatee, and he yes, that's right.
• 17:43
  Speaker 9: Well, truthfully, I have no idea where doctor Shulte is
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: presently located.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: And that's one regulation here.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: No student will be admitted who cannot show documentary proof
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: of the successful completion of secondary school work.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: High school. You can understand that cancer, mister didn't. I mean?
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: Well, there are certain minimum academic standards we must observe. Yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: in order to maintain the quality of our degree.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Doctor Donaldson accepted my check to the amount of eight
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars. I asked for a receipt and he filled
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: out a blank Doctorate of Science degree, which he carefully
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: lettered with the name Frank Didton and signed himself as Dean.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I arrested Donaldson and Ben and I took him in
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: for booking.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: One PM we received a long teletype from Washington. Arthur
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Shulte had a record of arrests and convictions back east,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: and started with a conviction sixteen years ago for the
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: interstate transportation of pornographic motion pictures. The record gave us
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: no known addresses, but important in the information was the
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: fact that Schulte had originally been trained and had worked
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: at being a projectionist in movie theaters. In the mo
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: was the notation that he'd been known to take up
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: his old occupation when.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Sought by authorities.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: One thirty five PM we contacted the local office of
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: the Motion Picture Projectionist Union.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Where they told us that they had played the art
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: of Shoelte.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: In the booth of one of the main street newsreel
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: houses on Sunday, that was the day before.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Two thirty pm.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: The Crescent Theater was buried between two bars and advertised
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: an hour of newsreels and short subjects for twenty cents.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Where's the manager. I'm him. Can we talked to him?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And at police officers? What I say? We're police officers.
• 19:23
  Speaker 14: We'd like to talk to you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: Nobody here to take over. Why don't you come in
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: and I can open the booth door here and talk.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, right around the back. I guess here have been Thanks.
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: Hey mister, okay, what's the trouble officers?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: You have a man in the name of Schulte working here.
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: That's right, projectionist isn't working right this minute though, it
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: comes down to the four an hour.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Alright.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I wonder if you had to take a look at
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: this description police.
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, there you are. I have eleven man working here,
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: is clean shaven? No, go gee, that'side that sounds the same.
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: Any idea where he lives? No, I don't, Well, we'll
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: have to wait.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: For him here.
• 20:10
  Speaker 14: All right, Wait a.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Minute, this one.
• 20:16
  Speaker 14: Where do you want to wait inside?
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Well? I think we'd stay up in the projection booth.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: It's all right.
• 20:21
  Speaker 14: After steel stairs there on the right. Tell Pete I agen.
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: He's the man up there now, I said it was okay.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: All right, don't say anything too when he gets you.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: What you say, I won't bet Yes, this way.
• 20:34
  Speaker 11: It's a long climb. Huh yeah, oh yeah, must be it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Are you mester there? Mess there?
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, police officers. Anything wrong, We're gonna have to wait here.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: The manager said, it was okay, wait for what. We
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: want to talk to your relief man.
• 21:00
  Speaker 14: I mean the doc.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: You know him just since yesterday.
• 21:04
  Speaker 14: Why do you call him the doc?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 21:06
  Speaker 14: You know, it speaks kind of fancy for a projectionist.
• 21:09
  Speaker 12: What do you do?
• 21:09
  Speaker 14: Oh, he just likes to talk to him. Okay, you
• 21:12
  Speaker 14: know the guy doesn't come on for about an hour.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They told us you want to look at the picture.
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: You can both sit by the observation.
• 21:18
  Speaker 14: For it in the film stage there.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sit over here. Ben, just all right here?
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 21:25
  Speaker 14: Huh, Well, what's the matter.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I've seen this news reel five pm.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Shuelde was nearly two hours late. Ben and I were
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: worrying about whether or somehow he'd been tippering.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: H usual for men to be this late for a shift,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: not in a house like this.
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: Bigger hosts would be different.
• 21:47
  Speaker 10: Wait, with the doc being late like this, just cast
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: the boss a couple of bucks. What do you mean
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: I got more dough? I'm over my maximum hours. The
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: old guy'd stay away long enough, I'd be.
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: On golden golden.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: Double and a half time. Boys in a business called
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: it golden time. Oh, most so you can get his
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: double golden. You'll get that working over maximum number of
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: hours after midnight on a Sunday. Uh huh, that's double golden.
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: Never happened to me, though.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: How do you stand?
• 22:15
  Speaker 14: What do you mean?
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: The money annoying? You can get used to it. Don't pay
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: any attention after a while.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Don't you get tired of hearing the same soundtrack over
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: and over?
• 22:25
  Speaker 14: No, you just know it's there.
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: It never registers what they're saying. I mean, just if
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: it stops when it shouldn't get us doing over.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: The years, I've been doing this wrong, eleven.
• 22:34
  Speaker 14: It's a long time. Excuse me. I gotta make a
• 22:38
  Speaker 14: switch over.
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: Would you say I said I gotta make a switch over.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I've been watching you do that all afternoon. How do
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: you know when to turn the other projector on?
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: Mark's on the film up in the right corner on
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: the screen, usually a black dot look through the window,
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: look man, right here. The first dot tells me to
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: start the other projector. When the second dot hits I
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: cut this one, turn on the other one. Watch, okay,
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: see you the first one?
• 23:04
  Speaker 14: Uh huh, Now.
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: In the second gud see uh huh.
• 23:17
  Speaker 14: You never know the difference. Simple stuff. People have never
• 23:20
  Speaker 14: seen the notice of switches.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Waits a minute, alright.
• 23:29
  Speaker 14: Doc, a little late, sorry, Eva slimped. Your name is Schuldie.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: That's a right, police options would like to talk to you.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I have to go to work anyway. You want to
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: go downstairs? All right, that's way, all right, this will
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: be fine right here.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: You say your name is Shulte, Arthur William Shulte. That's correct.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Ever been known by any other name?
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: Why do you operate a school called the Los Angeles
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: College of Psychotherapeutics in psychiatry.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: During the past year. I'm not saying.
• 24:16
  Speaker 14: Anything, or are you living master, I'm not saying anything.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: You see your identification? Hey, my wallet? All right now
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: you older see opement part there. I take out the.
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: Card, Union card and tickets.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Down those a security card. That second thing there behind
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the cave.
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, just try to pull a piece of paper there
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: and it's just a bill.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Mh What is it, Jim, It's a bill Millican Hotel.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: We drove to the Milican Hotel, about six blocks from
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the theater in the same skid road district. We got
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: the key from the room park and went up the
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Shoelta's room looked like any dingy hotel room.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: A small foot locker.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Sat at the end of the bed on the baggage stand.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: The two suitcases were over by the closet and sitting
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: on the floor alongside the bureau with two waist high
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: stacks of books.
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: You've got the key to the small drunk I don't
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: have to.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Submit to this. Let's open it up.
• 25:22
  Speaker 12: Open at yourself.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Here's the key, two main coats. I'll check the rest room. Joe,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: all right, it's your property. Doctor. I'm not saying anything.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Guest Fla those regular staff in Beryl. How about those
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: suitcases of the what you got? How about this?
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: It's a cigar box, it's a tape. Shit that's inside, doctor, nothing,
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: it would be interested him. I'll open and Joe Shulte bracelets, rings,
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: matched ear rings that are.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Stolen property reports. These were gifts. People say you took them.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: They're sick. I've done them a lot of good, but
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: they know they thanked me.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: This way, people, I get these things from they know
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: I've helped.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Them where you help Marlo Hutchins.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: The story you have just.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Heard was true, only the names were changed to protect
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: the innocent.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Arthur Shulty, free.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: On bail pending trial, died of natural causes on June fifteenth.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: In Presno, California. Leo Donaldson was tried and convicted of
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: grand theft and served a term prescribed by law in
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: the state penitentiary.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And now here is our star, Jack Beab. Thank you.
• 26:54
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• 26:56
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• 26:58
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• 27:02
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• 27:04
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• 27:14
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• 27:16
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• 27:19
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• 27:36
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• 27:40
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• 28:45
  Speaker 1: episodes that really feels like it could have been told today. Now,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: certainly some of the methods may have changed, but medical
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: quackery still claims many victim and as the episode points out,
• 29:01
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• 29:06
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• 29:09
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• 29:12
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• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and it's very hard to sift it all. Also, I
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: think that the scene with Friday talking to the projectionist
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: really did remind me of Jack Webb, Web famously was
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: on the film sets pestering the directors and everybody who
• 29:35
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• 29:38
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• 29:42
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• 29:46
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• 29:51
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• 30:18
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• 30:28
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• 30:31
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• 30:35
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• 30:37
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