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Singer Songwriter Christian Love Breaks Down Hold Me Again Plus Plenty Of Studio Experience Talk · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Hey, even being in radio for 47 years, I don't
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  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Christian. This is Arrow. How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good. What's happening?
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm excited to talk with you. That's what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I'm super pumped. How's the weather out there?
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  Speaker 1: Right now, finally some good typical Carolina fall weather. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the leaves maybe will have a reason to start changing
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  Speaker 1: colors now, but it's nice and crispy cool. What about
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  Speaker 1: you over there? Are you in Santa Barbara?
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  Speaker 2: I'm in Westlake Village, actually.
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  Speaker 1: Still, that's paradise, is it not?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. It's perfect weather today.
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  Speaker 3: It's been really hot, and today it kind of cooled
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  Speaker 3: down a little bit, so it's ideal.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Now, do you use that as songwriting material? In other words,
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  Speaker 1: do you go out there with the guitar and just
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  Speaker 1: jam out with it or have a gigantic window to
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  Speaker 1: peer out of?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do have a good window to peer out
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  Speaker 3: of and I take lots of walks around here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're on the same page here. But my problem
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  Speaker 1: is with those big windows is that I've written so
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  Speaker 1: much about it and I've talked about it on iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: so much is I always feel like that that window
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  Speaker 1: is a liar because it'll look like it's this beautiful
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  Speaker 1: day outside and then you step out there and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, it's freezing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I got to congratulate you on this song, Hold
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  Speaker 1: Me Again. This song, this is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: big crossover song. I mean, it's going to be adult
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  Speaker 1: top 40. It's going to be top 40. And I
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  Speaker 1: would not be shocked if these new age classic rock
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  Speaker 1: stations don't jump on it as well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate it. I really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing, how is it that it came into being?
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  Speaker 1: Because there's so much emotion in this song. I mean, everything,
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  Speaker 1: even when you're listening to the instrumentation, you can hear
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  Speaker 1: something and it's emotion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think, well, my friend Timmy Johnson sent me the
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  Speaker 3: music and it just kind of, that's the feeling that
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  Speaker 3: it brought out of me, you know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How do you like it when the music arrives? Because
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  Speaker 1: they did that with me many times through Jim's studio.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is, is that I love writing music,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, does it instantly come to you or
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  Speaker 1: do you get what they're sending to you in your head?
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  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you take that walk
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, I just found it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just stumble upon it, you know? Yeah. Sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes you look and you don't find anything, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those, because they're exploring as well,
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  Speaker 1: but when you have to take it back to Tim, though,
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  Speaker 1: is it the collaboration in the way of saying, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I see your interpretation, or is it something you've got
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  Speaker 1: to bend the rules and kind of go, okay, here's
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  Speaker 1: where I'm going to go with it. How do you
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  Speaker 1: feel about that, and can you remix it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the thing is, I'm so used to doing
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  Speaker 3: stuff at my house here.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So I like to actually control what my vocal sound
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  Speaker 3: is going to be, like, you know, the effects, the
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  Speaker 3: plugins and everything. But then, you know, of course, they
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  Speaker 3: take it into a better studio and mix the rest
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  Speaker 3: of it. But I do like to, yeah, I do
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  Speaker 3: have a particular thing I like to do with my vocals.
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  Speaker 1: So then are you like me then? Then you put
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  Speaker 1: an idea together? Because I use Pro Tools as well
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  Speaker 1: as Adobe Audition, and I'll jot my ideas down. And
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  Speaker 1: this way, when I go into the studio, they at
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  Speaker 1: least have a better vision instead of us just going
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  Speaker 1: in there to jam.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I like to have it all pretty much laid out,
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  Speaker 3: like the production and everything, and then just go in and.
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  Speaker 2: Have them make it sound better.
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  Speaker 1: It's so true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My argument is always, you know, they'll go, we don't
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  Speaker 1: need as much harmony. Yeah, we do. We overdo the harmony.
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  Speaker 1: It's like cowbell.
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  Speaker 2: Give me more harmony.
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  Speaker 1: They're going, no, you don't need more harmony. I need
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  Speaker 1: more harmony. How do you feel about harmony?
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  Speaker 2: That's the old school in us right there.
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  Speaker 1: You do something on the music change up on this
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  Speaker 1: song that really, boy, it catches my radio attention in
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  Speaker 1: a heartbeat. And it says, if I could feel your
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  Speaker 1: shattered heart, boom, it slows down, then comes back right in.
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  Speaker 1: And that to me is a hook. And that would
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  Speaker 1: be that, that what I would put on there, if
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  Speaker 1: we were doing music research, that part of the song
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  Speaker 1: to be the hook of the song.
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  Speaker 2: I could feel it. Yeah. I really liked that line too.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for noticing that one.
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  Speaker 1: Um, Is it, do you take chances like that going, okay,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm feeling it, somebody else will, or is it
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  Speaker 1: one of those where you just go, I've got this idea.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to, I'm going to let you hear
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  Speaker 1: it and then we'll grow from there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think, you know, no artist is always going to,
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  Speaker 3: always going to be successful at a songwriting, you know,
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  Speaker 3: of course, of course you're going to, You could write
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  Speaker 3: 50 songs and then all of a sudden you stumble
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  Speaker 3: upon one really, really good one and you're like, okay.
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  Speaker 3: And those are the moments that you look forward to.
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  Speaker 3: For me, I don't try to push it too hard,
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  Speaker 3: the songwriting. I mean, I'll stay on it and I'll
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  Speaker 3: keep working on the songwriting, but I won't try to
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  Speaker 3: force it or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's when I start making mistakes and it becomes
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  Speaker 1: a doodle on a page rather than words on a page.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you like working with Pro Tools?
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  Speaker 1: I do, but I think it's old-fashioned radio guy coming
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  Speaker 1: out in me because that's what we had. And you
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  Speaker 1: get so comfortable with what you had inside the studios
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  Speaker 1: and stuff that it's like you don't want to grow.
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  Speaker 1: And now that AI technology is everywhere, you're going, you
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  Speaker 1: want to try it, but at the same time you're going,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be authentic too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I haven't tried AI for music yet. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like there's so many, so many things that
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  Speaker 3: you can use so many plugins and this and that to,
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  Speaker 3: to make your music sound really rich and full.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, uh, you know, if you're, if you're, uh.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say decent artists because that's, um,
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  Speaker 3: but if you know what you're doing in the studio, yep.
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  Speaker 3: You can make it sound like an album, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is it, um, and, And AI is such a shortcut,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it takes away the process, which is half
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  Speaker 3: of the beauty of it. It's just, is the process
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  Speaker 3: of coming up, you know, and trials and tribulations with
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  Speaker 3: everything that you're trying.
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  Speaker 1: Well, plus on top of that, it keeps, it keeps repeating.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, if it doesn't work this time, then it'll,
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  Speaker 1: it'll come back and do it again on a different one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, no, we already went through this. We're not
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  Speaker 1: doing this. And, and you find yourself arguing with a
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  Speaker 1: stupid computer and it's like, I'd rather be with a
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  Speaker 1: human being right now, if you don't mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I agree with that a hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: How did you come up with some, some summer? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's still in my head and I mean, it's, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: how is it this song? It's there. And then, and
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  Speaker 1: then it starts living inside my thoughts. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: can be driving down 45 here in the Carolinas and
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  Speaker 1: go and jump right into this song. I'm going, where
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  Speaker 1: did that even come from? But you're the one that
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  Speaker 1: plants that seed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think how I came up with that, it was a,
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  Speaker 3: working in a studio late one night in Pasadena. And
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  Speaker 3: on the drive back, I just, I just couldn't get
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  Speaker 3: this song out of my head. So as soon as
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  Speaker 3: I got home, it must've been like one o'clock or something, 1am.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, I'm not going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to get sleep. I may as well lay this, lay
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  Speaker 3: this music down at least. So I laid the music
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  Speaker 3: down and then I just, whatever, whatever came off the
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  Speaker 3: top of my head is what the first verse was.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. And then from there, I think I wrote
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  Speaker 2: the verses first.
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  Speaker 3: And I was kind of thinking along the lines of
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  Speaker 3: like a Third Eye Blind style tune. And then when
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  Speaker 3: I came up with the Some Some Summer for the chorus,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this kind of sounds Beach.
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  Speaker 2: Boys all of a sudden. Yeah. So guilty as charged.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the thing, though, that when you're singing it, though,
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  Speaker 1: what I think of is more of a summertime tune where,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm here in the Carolinas, and when you think
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  Speaker 1: of the West Coast songs and stuff like that, these
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  Speaker 1: guys over here on this side of the world are
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  Speaker 1: so addicted to beach music with the R & B
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. And so when I heard your song, it
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  Speaker 1: was like, finally, a fresh beach song. And then I
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  Speaker 1: realized it's from California. I'm going, still, finally, a fresh
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  Speaker 1: beach song. I mean, it was like, thank God. You know,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, it's like, you know, you can only
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  Speaker 1: do so much of the old beach music where you
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  Speaker 1: need more beach music, which, you know, here in the
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  Speaker 1: Carolinas is so different than the rest of the nation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can go with the old model with
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  Speaker 3: the surf guitar and all that stuff. But I thought,
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  Speaker 3: why not make a more modern sounding beach song, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Is it difficult to write with authenticity? Cause it always
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  Speaker 1: feels like that. You're saying, Hey, come on over here.
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  Speaker 1: I got a story to share with you. And you
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  Speaker 1: just happened to whip out the guitar and it becomes
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  Speaker 1: a part of what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, for me, I've always written songs alone. So this,
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  Speaker 3: so in the last couple of years, I've been doing
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  Speaker 3: a lot of, um, co-writes and collaborations. Yeah. And I
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  Speaker 3: think it's really open, open me up like to, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I just really like collaborating. But it's definitely a new
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  Speaker 3: thing for me. So it's been a good exploration. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just having a blast doing co-writes with people.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the art of listening when you collaborate? Because
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  Speaker 1: you've got to sit there and listen to their points
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  Speaker 1: of direction.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't do that. No.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've been in the studio where the engineer kind
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  Speaker 1: of suggests and you just kind of look at him
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  Speaker 1: with that look like, oh, and I know you can
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  Speaker 1: see what my eyes are doing, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Please.
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  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, some some suggestions you go, oh, OK, that's
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  Speaker 3: that's a really good suggestion. And some suggestions you just
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  Speaker 3: you're not feeling it. So if you're not feeling it,
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  Speaker 3: you can't really you can't really go with it.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess you just got to go with your gut.
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  Speaker 1: Well, especially when they, when they want to do something
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  Speaker 1: with your vocals and you're going, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I can get it there. And, but then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: then they push you toward it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What, what exactly do they push you towards?
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  Speaker 1: Everybody sees me as, as I was going to say,
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  Speaker 1: everybody sees me as a stupid tenor, but I got
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  Speaker 1: to quit saying that. Cause there's a lot of brilliant
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  Speaker 1: tenors on this planet. but they want me to hit
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  Speaker 1: those higher notes. And it's like, it's one of those,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know if I want to go
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  Speaker 1: there today. Cause I don't want to be known. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be typecast. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: that person that always hits that high note. If you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's a, that's a, that's a gift to have
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  Speaker 3: to be able to hit those high notes, but.
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  Speaker 2: I know what you mean.
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  Speaker 3: It's like too much pressure, too much pressure to be
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  Speaker 3: able to recreate that all the time. And I, I, my,
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  Speaker 3: my range changes from day to day. Sometimes like, Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: I can hit the higher notes. Sometimes I can't, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's just, it's, uh, you know, so I try to
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  Speaker 3: do my warmups and all that stuff. And, uh, but yeah, that's,
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  Speaker 3: that's a gift. If you can hit those high notes,
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  Speaker 3: that's great.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, please don't move coming up next. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about life in Santa Barbara and being inside that studio.
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  Speaker 1: It's Christian love. Hey, thanks for coming back to The Conversation.
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  Speaker 1: The song we're promoting right now is Hold Me Again
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  Speaker 1: from Christian Love. Plus, we're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: Only Alibis and so many more. Welcome back. How often
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  Speaker 1: do you get over there to Santa Barbara? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's my favorite place on the planet. I mean, anytime
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  Speaker 1: I go to Santa Barbara, it's like, oh, I'm home.
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  Speaker 2: I'm home. Yeah. I try to make it up to
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  Speaker 2: Santa Barbara at least twice a week. Yep. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: volleyball is my.
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  Speaker 3: Biggest physical outlet, my biggest addiction, so... I get up
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  Speaker 3: there and I run around in the sand for a
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  Speaker 3: couple hours and I hop in the ocean.
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing it right there in downtown Santa Barbara
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  Speaker 1: where that big ass beach is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a place called East Beach. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, was it Cabrilla? Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 1: That main road that goes right, right beside the beach there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cabrilla. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God. I have felt so, I have done
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  Speaker 1: more painting there. I got caught up one time. This
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  Speaker 1: dude was out there putting all these flags and that
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  Speaker 1: was his peaceful protest. I had to paint it. It
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  Speaker 1: was like, I can't write about it. The words aren't
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  Speaker 1: coming out. So I had to go and hit all
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  Speaker 1: the damn stores to find myself some acrylic paints and
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  Speaker 1: a canvas and get my butt back there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man. It's so cathartic. I mean, it's really beautiful
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  Speaker 2: up there.
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  Speaker 3: That, That seems like it would be the perfect place
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  Speaker 3: to sit down and paint.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always that breeze that's going on. Now, how
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  Speaker 1: often do you sit down at that grand piano?
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: I haven't sat down at a grand piano in a
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  Speaker 3: really long time. But in a way, it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: how I started playing music. Back in Santa Barbara on
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  Speaker 3: Mesa Lane, back in the day when my dad had
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  Speaker 3: the place at Mesa Lane. and there was a grand
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  Speaker 3: piano in that, that house. And, uh, I spent a
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  Speaker 3: lot of time, I was listening to sting, dream of
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  Speaker 3: the blue turtles. And I just started, I started trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure out some of that stuff, which is really,
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  Speaker 3: which is really a reach for.
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  Speaker 2: A beginner piano player to.
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  Speaker 3: Try to, to try to emulate some of that stuff
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  Speaker 3: that was on that album. You know, I mean, that
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  Speaker 3: was that guy that played for sting is probably one
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  Speaker 3: of the best piano players in the world. Um, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I was having fun with it. And I wrote
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  Speaker 3: my first two songs on the piano.
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  Speaker 2: So it was cool. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's, there's something about a piano being inside a home
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  Speaker 1: that always sounds a lot warmer because I know when,
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  Speaker 1: when I would go into the studio, I would sit
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  Speaker 1: there and go, I'm not feeling a dude. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it was just because the studio was
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  Speaker 1: just so dead with its sound, but, but a house
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  Speaker 1: has that natural reverb and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It did.
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  Speaker 1: Does that add to any inspiration to you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it does. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, And also the piano that you're playing, whatever the
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  Speaker 3: resonance that's coming off the piano, some pianos are much
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  Speaker 3: better than others. But we had a really nice, I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember exactly what type it was, but it was
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  Speaker 3: a really nice grand piano.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we got one from up there in the
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  Speaker 1: Illinois area. It was 1869, and somebody said that they
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  Speaker 1: were going to throw it away. And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the hell you are. I don't care if it's broken
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  Speaker 1: or not. That thing is not going into the ground.
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  Speaker 1: And so it sits in my dining room. And if anything,
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  Speaker 1: it's just that I saved a piano's life. I'll write
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: a song about I saved a piano's life.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you have a tune or did you just.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Well, the guy that wants to tune it, he wants
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: to basically rip it all apart and modernize it. And
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: so I'm having an argument with that because I want
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: that full metal plate to stay there. I don't want
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: to change anything out of it. I want it to
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: be as authentic as possible because I just know there's
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: going to be somebody that's going to come along that's
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: going to say, man, I wish you would have kept
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: it authentic.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Now I know what you mean.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: There was just something about those pianos back then. I mean,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: it was, I don't know, and maybe that's what makes
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Honky Tonk so valuable, and the fact that there's just
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: something hollow about them, or just something just so, I
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: don't know how to put it even into words, but
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: when you would hear one of those high-back pianos, you're going, yeah, yeah,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just had that characteristic, yeah.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: So now, are you going to go out on the
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: road as the solo performer? Because I know you've been
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: doing other things with the other band.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wanted to mention some dates that we're
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: going to be playing this coming weekend.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Beautiful.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got three.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Gigs this weekend. We're coming in hot. So they're mostly
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: in Maryland. So one is October 23rd. It's called Green
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: in Westminster, Maryland.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Outside or is it inside?
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. I'm not sure about that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: And then Saturday, October 24th at Sign of the Horse
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Brewery in Hanover, PA from 7 to 10.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: You know, kudos to these breweries because, I mean, here
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: in Charlotte, I mean, they're all over the breweries, but
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: the grocery stores here in Charlotte are allowing live musicians now.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: And you walk in there on a Thursday and there's
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: a man with a keyboard or there's a man with
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: a piano, I mean, with a guitar, and you're going,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: at a grocery store? But they do because we love
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: our live music so much here.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you think about all the people that have
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: made it from, you know, they started out being buskers
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: and stuff.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: It's just really great.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: That people of all levels and all places in their
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: musicality to be able to go out and play.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Speaking of playing, when you do a song like Only Alibis,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: do you find yourself, does that come straight from the soul?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like you're confessing something to us.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, something about a sad song over a
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: happy chord structure.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It's just so fun to me, you know?
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: It's just like, keep the words sad and keep the
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: music nice and positive.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's a really good combo. I always call.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: That hidden speak is what I do. Because it's like, okay,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to... Roman Gabriel from the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: LA Rams is the one that taught me how to
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: do that, how to do hidden speak. He says, you
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: know what you're feeling in your head, just don't say
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it through your mouth.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Now we have somebody in common. How often do you
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: get to see David Beard?
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Not very often.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: And, you know, as our Beach Boys schedule starts to
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: thin out a little.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Bit, a lot bit. So that's usually where I see David.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Is on the road and he comes, comes by the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: gigs and he, you know, he interviews people and he,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: he he's good friends with my dad and he's done,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: he's been around the organization for a while and he's done,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: he did a really nice writeup for me on only,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: only alibis album.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And, um, he's just a really nice guy. Yeah.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I was the DJ at his wedding and, and I've
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: never let him go ever since then. Once, once he
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: told me that his love for music is like, Oh,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you ain't going anywhere. You're, you'll be a part of
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: my journey from this day forward, dude. Cause you don't
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: meet too many people who are authentic with music.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then of course, as you know, the, the,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: the music scene has changed so much in the last
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: few years.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: It's just incredible.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I was going to bring that up because I mean,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I noticed that Spotify loves the hell out of you,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: but most artists they're going, I don't know if I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: love Spotify back. I mean, do you love what it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: doing for you?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. Yeah, I think.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I think, I think finding other, Other ways
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: besides Ticketmaster and, of course, Spotify. Going artist to fan,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: just direct, I think is a really good thing.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: To do these days.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Building your email list and just taking out the middleman
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: is probably the best. approach i think these days to
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: do it because yeah you're not you're not going to
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: be making much money from spotify i mean it's nice
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: that they they have a platform that you can use
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: to get your music out there but as far as
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: uh making any money, I mean, they're going to take
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: most of it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I swear it was your dad that sat down with
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: me one day and we talked about today's musicians. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: what was so fascinating is that today you get to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: do your own platform. You get to do your own
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: marketing and everything. And he was like going, I wish
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: we would have had that when we were starting out.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: He says, but once you give it away to the companies,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: then you're on their beck and call. And I just
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: thought that was the most honest thing for him to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: say to me.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: And, and bizarre coming from someone that is so extremely successful.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: But his imagination is still just unbelievable. I mean, because
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's got, I mean, if you, if you're
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: sitting there with a song in your head, I'm going
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: into my studio in the house and we're going to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: get it. And if I have to get it out
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: by tomorrow and we're going to do it instead of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: having to wait for the ink to dry on the contract.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, it is.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: It is nice being able to have control of your
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: own publicity and, and past in music.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I do like that part of it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: What's the favorite part that you enjoy most about music?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Because I'm still waiting for a book from you because
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I think you would make a brilliant novelist.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks. I appreciate it. I would love to write
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a book. Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I think my favorite thing is when you play live
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: music and people connect. If you can connect with people
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: playing your own original music and playing live, There's, there's
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: something really great about that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that you can teach one
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: of the fans that are out there? In other words,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: like when you're up on that stage and you kind
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of lock in on them, I mean, there's, there is
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: that vibration that you, you look at them, you're going,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, they're feeling it. And, and it is,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I live for that dude. And, and, and so, but,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: but how do you teach somebody who's in the audience
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: that art form?
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: How would you teach them? Yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I don't really know, but I, I know that, um,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I have started to take notes on how to get
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: the audience involved in your performance, you know, in certain
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: ways that you can let them know that it's going
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: to be their turn to sing the chorus by themselves or,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: you know, certain stuff that you can do to bring
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: a live show some energy.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you, Christian?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Because I want them, I mean, they've got to go
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: to your entire catalog. They've got to see that this
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: is not just something that's happening now, that this has
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: been something that's been building up and that they need
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to go to the roots of the actual performer and
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: grow with you.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think, I guess my website, which
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: would be the first place to go, christianloveofficial.org.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, all the socials. It's all Christian Love.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Official on those, too. Instagram and Facebook. And, yeah, I mean,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I guess that's a good place to start. Some of
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: my music is on Amazon as well as Spotify. And
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not really sure about iTunes anymore. I used to
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: have some music up there, but I'm not sure if
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: it's still up there. I have an old album called
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Dancing with the Sun, if anyone's interested for a deep
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: dive into that.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I see that happening because that's what always shocks
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: me about the young. Because I'm with a lot of
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the younger generation with the things that I do. And
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: that's what they're diving into. Full albums from artists of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the past. And they're looking for that experience is what
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: they're doing. It's not just one song anymore. It's about
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the entire experience of an album.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Which is great considering, yeah, it's been all about singles
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: for so long. It's really nice to see people getting back. Because,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: you know, when we were growing up, that was what we...
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: we were super pumped to dive into an album from
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: front to back.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And that art.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Got lost a while back, but I'm glad to see
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that it's making a comeback because there's something about just
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: the order of the songs and the way they flow
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: with each other and the artwork and all that stuff.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Your merch is pretty up-to-date too, dude. I really like
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of your designs on those t-shirts. My God,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I hope you sell a bunch of those.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: I'm going to bring those out to Maryland. So I'll
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: have those two with some CDs as well.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: See, that's the stuff that people, they want to take
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: stuff home right now. And that's what I love about
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: today's bands is you can.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Take it home.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: There it is over there.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Go get it. That's awesome. Excellent.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Well, you got to come back to this show anytime
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in the future. When you come back to Charlotte, whether
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you guys play at the Amp again, were you part
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: of that concert when you were at the Amp in Ballantyne?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: When was that?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: This would be over the summer that the beach boys
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: came to for the, for the amp. I know that
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: John was, it was, was part of that. And I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: didn't get that. They invited me over there to do it,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: but I couldn't get over there quick enough and be,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and to be at the amp and my God, what
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a great place for a show.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: If there, if there was a beach boy show, I was,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I was there playing. Um, yeah, we've had so many
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: good shows. Um, Especially like a couple of years ago,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: we played some festivals that were like really big festivals.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Like you're playing to like, you know, somewhere between 30
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: and 50,000 people sometimes. It's just like, wow, this music
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: has amazing staying power.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Isn't that fascinating to be an artist that way? Or
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the one thing that fascinates me the most about a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: lot of musicians, and you probably go through the same thing,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And when you, when you release something new, yeah, we've
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: been hanging onto this song for like eight or 10 years.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: What?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And now, and we're just getting it now. People don't
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: realize the distance a song must travel before it finally
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: gets to us.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's that. And then also, uh, how, how long
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: it takes for an artist to break.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: You could, you could be pushing the same song for,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: like you said, 10 years and finally, finally, finally something
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: happens and there's no, it's not, there's no such thing
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: as overnight success.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It's 10 years overnight success. Oh my God.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Well, please come back to this show anytime in the future.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you, dude.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: All right. Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: You bet. You'd be brilliant today. Okay.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: All right. Thanks. You too.