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This Gay Week: Anti-LGBTQ Violence Rises as Trump Officials Joke About Our Lives · The Karel Show

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Speaker 1: Is here no time to fear Karel is so near
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Speaker 1: give it a go Karel is the one that you
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Speaker 2: Now it's Showtime.
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Speaker 3: It is time for another This Gay Week with Carell
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Speaker 3: and Scott Jacobson. Violence spikes in America. Our Secretary of
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Speaker 3: War is making bad jokes. And that's just the domestic
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Speaker 3: stories we got. Wait till we get to international.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 3: It is the Carell Show. I am Carell. So very
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Speaker 3: glad you are joining me. I'm having all kinds of
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Speaker 3: weird technical stuff happening today. So if we even get
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Speaker 3: a show done, it'll be amazing. Just a miracle to me.
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Speaker 3: I'm hearing things in my ear I shouldn't be. I
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Speaker 3: can't get sound to come out of places it should be,
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Speaker 3: and it's coming out of places it shouldn't be. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, sort of like explosive diarrhea kind of thing
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Speaker 3: where things are coming out the wrong way and doing
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Speaker 3: all the wrong things. But we are here. It is Thursday.
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Speaker 3: We are live. A lot of you are not used
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Speaker 3: to us being live on Thursday. You always think it's prerecorded.
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Speaker 3: It's not. We are live. What time is it in
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Speaker 3: the Ukraine, Mr. Sean Douglas? I'm sorry, Scott Douglas Jacobson.
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Speaker 3: Speak up, honey. 8.04 p.m. We'll need more audio gain
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Speaker 3: on your end somehow. It's just an audio problem day
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Speaker 3: is what we're talking about. But it's 8.04 p.m. over there.
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Speaker 3: Before we get to Scott and ask him to speak up,
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to say a few things. First of all,
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Speaker 3: I'm getting really fucking sick of my icons and people
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Speaker 3: that I grew up with dying this morning to prove
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Speaker 3: that we are alive. This morning, I couldn't have known
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Speaker 3: this yesterday unless I was psychic. Gloria Steinem has passed away. And,
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Speaker 3: you know, I am not a woman, but I cannot
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Speaker 3: tell you what she meant to women across the globe,
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Speaker 3: but mainly in America. She was the face of the
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Speaker 3: feminist movement. We could use more women like her today
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Speaker 3: as we are entering the era of trad wives and
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Speaker 3: all this other crap. And she's going to be greatly missed. So...
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Speaker 3: You know, there's that. She is going to be very
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Speaker 3: greatly missed. And I am getting a little tired of,
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Speaker 3: you know, some of my older icons, you know, going away.
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Speaker 3: Just dropping away. And, you know, there's not much more
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Speaker 3: we can say about that other than it gets old.
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Speaker 3: You know, it just simply does. All right. So let's
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Speaker 3: go over here to Scott. There you are. Hello. It's audio.
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Speaker 3: It's radio, hon. You got to speak.
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Speaker 4: Oh, can you hear me now?
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Speaker 3: Oh, it only works when people talk.
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Speaker 4: So we've been a little bit calmer day to day.
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Speaker 5: Before today and the day before, we had about five,
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Speaker 5: six days of pretty consistent round the clock. so it
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Speaker 5: was a little bit distressing for a lot.
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Speaker 4: Of the locals here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we heard.
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Speaker 4: I did some field work.
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Speaker 5: I went to one elementary school to go visit some
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Speaker 5: art school kids in their bomb shelter. Some were doing
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Speaker 5: some Zoom call, and some were present doing some of
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Speaker 5: their lessons. I was able to talk to them, give
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Speaker 5: a little bit of a talk myself, and then also
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Speaker 5: just ask them questions, you know, because I remember being
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Speaker 5: a young person, not liking being lectured, so I asked
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Speaker 5: them more, you know, what are your thoughts, and do
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Speaker 5: you have any questions for me? And so one of
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Speaker 5: them gave some commentaries about one of the artists, Ukrainian
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Speaker 5: artists they like. And so it was kind of an
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Speaker 5: interesting experience to go visit that. Well, in the background,
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Speaker 5: we hear the air raid alerts, plus some nearby explosions
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Speaker 5: at the time.
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Speaker 3: There are kids in grade school now that grew up
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Speaker 3: in the war. They're six years old and they're going
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Speaker 3: to first grade or kindergarten or whatever. And the war
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Speaker 3: has been their whole existence, which is just really weird
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Speaker 3: and sad to me. Um, just like there's a, what
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Speaker 3: do they call it? The nine 11, there's a, there's
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Speaker 3: a documentary on Netflix, the nine 11 generation, the kids
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Speaker 3: that were born after nine 11, who are now, uh,
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Speaker 3: 25 years old. Uh, you know, so they've, they've only
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Speaker 3: ever lived in a post nine 11 world, uh, which
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Speaker 3: is really interesting to me. Um, so yeah. Um, all right.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with the, uh, With
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Speaker 3: the commercial breaks either. Nothing is working properly this morning,
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Speaker 3: but it's all good. All right. So we're going to
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Speaker 3: start with two things that aren't on your list, or
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Speaker 3: maybe they are. I actually haven't pulled up your list yet.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. But the first, it sort of relates to
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Speaker 3: what we talk about every week. There was a hate
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Speaker 3: crime in Tucson where my niece lives. Two men and
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Speaker 3: then the gunman were killed outside of the Venture Inn,
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Speaker 3: which is a gay bar. And the gunman was found
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Speaker 3: with a list of other LGBTQ establishments in his pocket.
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Speaker 3: I guess had he lived, he was going on a
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Speaker 3: reign of terror. One of the things I found interesting
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Speaker 3: is his cousin said that he had never spoken ill
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Speaker 3: of of gay people prior. And they're from Gambia, Africa.
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Speaker 3: And of course, as you and I both know, there's
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Speaker 3: a very large anti-gay sentiment in Africa. And so I
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Speaker 3: wonder if he brought some of that hatred with him
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Speaker 3: from Africa and then had it sort of validated by
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump and the Republicans and MAGA and their stance
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Speaker 3: on gays. So something radicalized him to go to the
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Speaker 3: parking lot of the Venturin and kill two gay people.
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Speaker 3: I wish I could say that this is shocking or
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Speaker 3: new for me, but this just makes me feel like
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Speaker 3: it's the 80s all over again. Because under Ronald Reagan
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Speaker 3: and in the 80s, this was pretty normal. Gays getting shot.
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Speaker 3: I've been shot at at gay bars. I've been at
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Speaker 3: gay bars where bullets have come through the window or
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Speaker 3: a Molotov cocktail came through the front door. I've had
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Speaker 3: someone pull a gun to my head three times in
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Speaker 3: my life, literally put a snub nose revolver right to
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Speaker 3: my forehead. So this isn't new. I like to say
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Speaker 3: that it's new. But it's not new. And I don't
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Speaker 3: know how the gunman died. I'm not... I don't know
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Speaker 3: if he shot... I've read the story. It doesn't ever
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Speaker 3: say how he died. If he turned the gun on
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Speaker 3: himself after he killed these two people or what happened.
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Speaker 3: But they haven't really said, oh, the gunman died this way,
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Speaker 3: the gunman died that way. We don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: So we will... We'll see how the gunman died. But
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Speaker 3: I don't really. Yeah, go ahead, dear.
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Speaker 5: Two reports are noting potentially self-inflicted wound.
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Speaker 4: For the death.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm guessing I'm guessing it's a guess. I'm
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Speaker 3: guessing that he, you know, that that was that he
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Speaker 3: did himself in. All right. It is this gay week
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Speaker 3: All right. We are back and we are facing the abyss.
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Speaker 3: So give me just a moment to fix that. It's
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Speaker 3: happening again. For those of you that remembered my show
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Speaker 3: last week, it did this a lot. It just... went
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Speaker 3: to the abyss, but now we're back from the abyss.
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Speaker 3: So there we go again. So again, Scott, sorry, just
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Speaker 3: today's a troubling, troubling day. It's the way it is.
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Speaker 3: So not a great story to start with, but then
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Speaker 3: it was followed up with another hate crime in Sacramento, California.
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Speaker 3: Another gay man attacked again. So we had two hate
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Speaker 3: crimes in as many days. There is no doubt the
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Speaker 3: rise of hate crimes in the United States has gone up.
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Speaker 3: We had the bromosexual, that's what I call him, Pete Hagsworth,
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Speaker 3: the hobrosexual, because I fully believe he sleeps with his bros.
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Speaker 3: I'm so, I have to say, Scott, I'm angry today.
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Speaker 3: I'm mad today.
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Speaker 4: You are.
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Speaker 3: I am. I am.
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Speaker 4: I'm angry today. I can feel that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I am. I'm angry today. And we have
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Speaker 3: a government official, the Secretary of of Defense, a high-ranking
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Speaker 3: government official, making jokes now openly at his rallies and
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Speaker 3: at his whatever pep talks, where he is now openly saying,
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Speaker 3: we want training, not trannies. Now, he said it five
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Speaker 3: separate times, which ultimately means he wants to sleep with
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Speaker 3: a transgendered person. But that being said, Trani is, and
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Speaker 3: he knows this, they all know this, that it's a
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Speaker 3: reprehensible term nowadays to call transgendered individuals. He does it
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Speaker 3: on purpose. And when they change, they didn't change, when
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump tried to say that Lake Ontario is now
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Speaker 3: Lake America, They called Lake Ontario its, quote, dead name,
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Speaker 3: which is what transgendered people call their former name. And
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Speaker 3: so they posted this on the official White House account
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Speaker 3: that they wanted map agencies to stop using the dead
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Speaker 3: name of Lake Ontario. And so that really has me
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Speaker 3: pissed off. I want them fucking beaten. I want them
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Speaker 3: put into jail. I am so sick of Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: and his cabinet. I'm just sick of their homophobia and
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Speaker 3: their transphobia because it's fake. It's performative. They are doing
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Speaker 3: it only to appease their masses. They don't believe it.
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Speaker 3: They didn't do it beforehand. They're doing it now to
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Speaker 3: be performative. But it has real effects. As they're making
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Speaker 3: those jokes, gay men are being shot in parking lots.
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Speaker 3: Transgendered people are being openly discriminated against, hurt, and or killed.
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Speaker 3: And it's getting me really angry. I'm so done with it.
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Speaker 3: And then this week, not to veer too far off
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Speaker 3: track here, my niece, my friend Hannah, sends me a
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Speaker 3: video from one of her clients, Latin Nation Media. Now,
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Speaker 3: Latin Nation Media is very pro-gay, and their CEO is gay,
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Speaker 3: so they're very pro-gay. But they had a drag queen.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. They have a show where they have transgendered
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Speaker 3: individuals on it. And I was trying to get the
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Speaker 3: clip so I could show it, but the audio wasn't working.
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Speaker 3: But basically, the transgendered host asked one of the transgendered panelists,
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Speaker 3: do you think that transgendered people, transgendered women, should be
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Speaker 3: in female sports? And this transgendered woman sat there and said, no.
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Speaker 3: And they were like, damn, you didn't even give me
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Speaker 3: a chance to finish. And she goes, well, we can
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Speaker 3: take all the hormones we want, but we're still going
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Speaker 3: to be strong. You know, we're still going to be men.
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Speaker 3: And so Hannah sent me this video and said, what
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Speaker 3: do you think of this video? I said, I think
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Speaker 3: that A, that transgendered person is as wrong in their
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Speaker 3: opinion as Caitlyn Jenner is about everything. In other words,
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Speaker 3: I think they're a self-loathing trans person. to say that
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Speaker 3: we're still men that, that anyway. Um, then I told her,
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Speaker 3: I also think the right is going to glam onto this.
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Speaker 3: They're going to grab onto this one day later. What
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Speaker 3: does she send me? Good old Scott. She sends me
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Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro platforming that quote from that show. And, and
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Speaker 3: she sent me the clip and I said, I told you,
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Speaker 3: I told you. Yes, dear. You don't have to raise
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Speaker 3: your hand, you can just speak.
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Speaker 4: I'm talking to an American, of course.
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Speaker 5: So when I was doing some research on all these
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Speaker 5: creationist movements and so on and so forth, a big
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Speaker 5: thing that is part of their repertoire of tactics is
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Speaker 5: cherry-picking of quotes out of context. And this is a
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Speaker 5: similar kind of tactic. It doesn't have the same tone
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Speaker 5: and category of work, But it has a lot of
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Speaker 5: overlap in terms of the tactic to me.
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Speaker 3: Well, and there was another person on the show that
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Speaker 3: immediately said, I disagree with everything you just said. You
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Speaker 3: are ill-informed. Took her to task. Did that get played
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Speaker 3: on the Ben Shapiro show?
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 3: What got played on Ben Shapiro? The transgendered person saying, oh, no,
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Speaker 3: we shouldn't be in sports. Under it all, we're still men.
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Speaker 3: And what does Ben Shapiro say about it? Oh, look
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Speaker 3: at these men cosplaying as women, talking about how they
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Speaker 3: shouldn't be allowed to cosplay. Because he calls transgendered people cosplaying. And,
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Speaker 3: you know, the noise, the rhetoric coming out of this administration,
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Speaker 3: these right wingers, you know, and now we have gay
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Speaker 3: people across the globe. There's a great woman, a drag queen.
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Speaker 3: I want you to look her up. She's in London
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Speaker 3: and I want you to follow her. She's wonderful. Her name,
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Speaker 3: she goes by Queera Lynn, Q-U-E-R-A underscore Lynn, L-Y-N, Queera Lynn. Um,
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Speaker 3: and she's from the UK. He does this 1940s drag.
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Speaker 3: He's like a post, a post-war drag person. You know,
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Speaker 3: he dresses like 1945 post-war and he takes all of
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Speaker 3: the homophobes to task. He plays their videos. And then
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Speaker 3: he talks about, you know, I've been trying to get
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Speaker 3: him on our show to be here with us in
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Speaker 3: a little round table. And one of the things he's
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Speaker 3: been doing is platforming or trying to deplatform these gays
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Speaker 3: who don't like overtly queer men. So they wouldn't like me.
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Speaker 3: They don't like, quote, older men macking on the younger men.
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Speaker 3: Then stop looking for daddy's bitches.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And he doesn't like, he just doesn't like gay culture.
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Speaker 3: And he wants to form a group of other gays
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Speaker 3: who aren't like the other gays. And one of their
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Speaker 3: things is that we do not accept trans in the
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Speaker 3: gay tent anymore. That it's lesbian, gay, bisexual, that's it.
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Speaker 3: If you're trans or queer, gender non-binary, go get your
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Speaker 3: own tent. One thing I posted and Queer Lynn actually
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Speaker 3: interacted with me on is this is a really old tactic.
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Speaker 3: This goes back to Julius Caesar. It's called divide and conquer.
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Speaker 3: It's where you make a group that you want to
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Speaker 3: attack fight amongst themselves and they do half the job
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Speaker 3: for you. They tear themselves apart so you don't have to.
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Speaker 3: And This is catching on across the globe in the
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Speaker 3: gay community, where you have gay people denouncing drag queens.
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Speaker 3: They're too gay. They're too flamboyant. Denouncing trans people, saying
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Speaker 3: we don't want them in our tent. We love them
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Speaker 3: or whatever, but their battles are their own battles. These
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Speaker 3: are young people who don't know fuck about history, who
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Speaker 3: don't know anything about the battles and the struggles, and
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Speaker 3: who actually... fought to give them the platform on social
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Speaker 3: media that they enjoy. The trans people like Marsha P. Johnson,
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Speaker 3: Christine Jorgensen, on and on. And so Queer Aline is
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Speaker 3: trying to do everything that she can or he can
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Speaker 3: to show the absurdity of these people. But it's growing.
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Speaker 3: Right now, I would say it's maybe 10%, 5%, 10%.
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Speaker 3: But before it was 1% or 2%. Now it's like 5%, 10%.
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Speaker 4: And....
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Speaker 3: This is why I'm mad today. We have gays inside
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Speaker 3: our own community trying to distance themselves from trans people.
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Speaker 3: You have a trans person on a queer-friendly network saying
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Speaker 3: that trans women shouldn't compete in trans sports. Then you
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Speaker 3: have Ben Shapiro grabbing onto that, as I told the
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Speaker 3: publicist for that network they would do. And then you
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Speaker 3: have two queers being shot in a parking lot in Tucson.
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Speaker 3: You have another queen in Sacramento being attacked. These are
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Speaker 3: all related. It's all part of the same thing. And
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Speaker 3: these people can't even see it. I can. I've lived
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Speaker 3: it before. So, you know, and and the only way
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Speaker 3: to stop it is a big wave countering it. But
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't see that wave, you know, happening.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You know, maybe after the midterms,
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe, you know, when there's a different tone.
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Speaker 3: But right now, I don't see it happening. And that's
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Speaker 3: really upsetting to me on this Thursday morning.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the thing is, I mean, you could flip
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Speaker 4: the script. You don't quote a.
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Speaker 5: Particular rabbi or rabbinical scholar out of context and then
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Speaker 5: use that to determine what is the meaning of any
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Speaker 5: particular point of rabbinical scholarship to Mr.
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Speaker 4: Shapiro, right?
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Speaker 5: You don't take a particular person who has no leadership
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Speaker 5: position necessarily and or is not a spokesperson for the
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Speaker 5: community as a.
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Speaker 4: Whole, people have an individual opinion.
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Speaker 5: And so taking that and extrapolating an individual opinion to
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Speaker 5: the community necessarily is an illegitimate move.
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Speaker 4: And so it's a very dirty media move by Mr.
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Speaker 4: Shapiro in this particular case.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate him. I've always gotten gay vibes from
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Speaker 3: him too. I know that sounds odd, but I have.
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Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro just always seems a little bit gay to me. But,
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Speaker 3: you know, I... I have no first-hand knowledge of such,
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Speaker 3: so I can't go around making claims, but my gaydar
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Speaker 3: blips when I see him. And, you know... maybe it's right,
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Speaker 3: maybe it's wrong. I don't know. All right. Now we
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Speaker 3: can get to some of your news stories now that
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Speaker 3: I've gotten my anger off of my chest.
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Speaker 4: Well, slow down on getting it off your chest.
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Speaker 7: Because today we have a few stories that are not
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Speaker 7: necessarily the happiest.
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Speaker 3: We were in such a good mood last week, weren't we?
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Speaker 5: Yesterday was a genuinely good week overall. But also I
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Speaker 5: was picking a little more of the positive ones in
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Speaker 5: spite of sort of in the light of some of
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Speaker 5: your difficult circumstances you're going through. Now, so let's do
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Speaker 5: UA news, Ukrainian news. Pierre Piguet, Paris police officer and
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Speaker 5: president of the LGBTQ Rights Association, flag!
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Speaker 4: Exclamation point. Was hospitalized after being struck with a bottle
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Speaker 4: in the Marais. In the Marais.
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Speaker 3: If it's in France, that's the Marais.
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Speaker 4: The Marais? Okay, it's the Marais.
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Speaker 5: So he reported repeated homophobic insults. The suspect was detained
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Speaker 5: while officials and advocates condemned the violence. So echoing your
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Speaker 5: prior point about more violence, there's another one.
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Speaker 4: And a leader.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Marais. So it's important. The location is important.
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Speaker 3: And you probably don't know this because, you know. But
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Speaker 3: the Marais is the gay district of Paris. That is
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Speaker 3: where the gay bars are. That is where a lot
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Speaker 3: of the queers live. It's also one of the nicest.
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Speaker 3: The Pompidou is there. It's the first place Andrew and
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Speaker 3: I had dinner our first night in Paris. We told
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Speaker 3: the cab driver, bring us to the queerest place in Paris.
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Speaker 3: And he brought us to Moray and dropped us off
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Speaker 3: and said, here you go. So, you know, we had
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Speaker 3: dinner our first night there in the rain with a
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Speaker 3: German shepherd dog that the owner of the restaurant had.
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Speaker 3: We sat there in a gay cafe in the pouring
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Speaker 3: rain with a German shepherd with my husband in Paris.
21:56
Speaker 4: I have a question.
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Speaker 5: In reviewing your activist and media history, do you notice
22:03
Speaker 5: any differences in the style of violence homosexuals gay broadly
22:07
Speaker 5: get in different regions of the world?
22:11
Speaker 3: Well, yeah. In America, we get shot. In other areas,
22:14
Speaker 3: we get beaten, stabbed, or stoned. So, yeah, I do.
22:18
Speaker 3: They do choose different weapons. But you sent the story
22:24
Speaker 3: from the EU Observer that says attacks on LGBTI community
22:28
Speaker 3: are warning signs of a wider backlash against democracy. And
22:34
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really what this is about.
22:39
Speaker 4: We've made this point.
22:40
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not just that they're attacking us, but they're
22:44
Speaker 3: attacking us because they feel emboldened to attack us.
22:49
Speaker 6: Yes.
22:49
Speaker 3: You know, they... They feel like, hey.
23:07
Speaker 4: You have to be.
23:09
Speaker 3: Proud with hatred. Hey everyone, it's Carell. You know, Pride
23:14
Speaker 3: Month was rough this year. We had a lot of
23:17
Speaker 3: hate heaped upon us from Trump, from MAGA, and from
23:20
Speaker 3: other governments around the world. And if you are a
23:23
Speaker 3: trans person, you are really going through a particular type
23:26
Speaker 3: of hell right now. That's why when I was thinking
23:29
Speaker 3: of my next single in June, I sat down and
23:31
Speaker 3: I wrote, you have to be proud. You have to
23:35
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23:40
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23:56
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24:11
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24:16
Speaker 3: new camera is working. Although, I have to say, this
24:21
Speaker 3: new camera costs double. They lost the other one. They
24:26
Speaker 3: say they delivered it to my door. They sent a
24:28
Speaker 3: photo that doesn't look like my door. It could be
24:32
Speaker 3: my door, but there's no unit number. And they were
24:35
Speaker 3: supposed to require a signature. They didn't. I have no
24:39
Speaker 3: way of knowing. They're saying, well, it was delivered. And
24:41
Speaker 3: I'm like, but it's not. So they're doing an inquiry,
24:45
Speaker 3: which takes 14 business days after the alleged delivery, which
24:51
Speaker 3: you're supposed to just wait and pay the interest on
24:54
Speaker 3: the credit card and whatever. So I got a new camera.
24:58
Speaker 3: at the camera store, no more delivery. So if they
25:01
Speaker 3: find the other one or whatever, I'll have to get
25:04
Speaker 3: it refunded. I don't even know what's going to happen.
25:06
Speaker 3: I'm so angry with that. I keep emailing them every day.
25:09
Speaker 3: They're like, we're sorry it's taking so long. In today's
25:12
Speaker 3: day of instant everything, how could an inquiry into where
25:15
Speaker 3: a delivery went take 14 days? But whatever. 14 business days,
25:19
Speaker 3: so basically three weeks. So that's got me angry. Um,
25:25
Speaker 3: all right. So we're doing this gay week with Scott
25:27
Speaker 3: Jacobson and it's not a good, you know, it's not
25:32
Speaker 3: a good time to be gay in America. And that's
25:34
Speaker 3: one of the reasons I want to leave. And the
25:38
Speaker 3: sad part is that we are seeing from doing this
25:40
Speaker 3: show every week, it's not a great time to be
25:42
Speaker 3: gay anywhere right now. Um, there is growing gay violence everywhere.
25:46
Speaker 3: Now you were going to do a story out of Ukraine,
25:49
Speaker 3: which is interesting because, um, I'm seeing, and hello to Kennedy,
25:56
Speaker 3: Christopher Kennedy, James Schnabel, and Ray Renati, and all the
25:59
Speaker 3: others that are in the chat room at youtube.com forward
26:02
Speaker 3: slash early corral.
26:03
Speaker 5: You.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because you're in Ukraine or
26:09
Speaker 3: if there's just a lot of LGBTQ movement in Ukraine
26:14
Speaker 3: right now, meaning because of the war, because of the
26:17
Speaker 3: serving in the war and wanting rights when they come
26:19
Speaker 3: back and everything else, and because of the shifting sociological
26:23
Speaker 3: things going on in Ukraine, if the LGBTQ people just
26:27
Speaker 3: have said, okay, this is when we're going to go
26:29
Speaker 3: for our rights now too, Or, you know, I'm not
26:33
Speaker 3: sure why, but it seems that the gay community of
26:36
Speaker 3: Ukraine is more active and more demanding right now than
26:40
Speaker 3: perhaps previously. Yeah.
26:46
Speaker 4: I mean, you're seeing a lot.
26:48
Speaker 3: More stories there about, you know, demands for same-sex marriage, adoption,
26:53
Speaker 3: all of that.
26:55
Speaker 4: That's a really good point.
26:57
Speaker 5: People I talk to who are in community, in leadership,
27:01
Speaker 5: when I do interview them or at least talk to
27:02
Speaker 5: them informally, the general perspective is the country has a
27:06
Speaker 5: lot of bigger problems. So those who would traditionally repress them,
27:12
Speaker 5: they're on the front lines. So they can do their
27:13
Speaker 5: activist work if they're not of military age or of
27:16
Speaker 5: the sex that they're looking for in the military in
27:19
Speaker 5: terms of martial law and the draft.
27:22
Speaker 3: So in other words, the bigots are busy, so let's
27:24
Speaker 3: take advantage of it while they're out there. The bigots
27:27
Speaker 3: are busy at war, so while the bigots are away,
27:31
Speaker 3: why don't we go ahead and try to get some rights?
27:35
Speaker 5: That would be the strategic logistics perspective of it in general.
27:41
Speaker 4: It seems more organic than that.
27:43
Speaker 5: It seems like they're always doing this work, but the
27:47
Speaker 5: headwinds are much lighter.
27:51
Speaker 3: Did you see here that Trump yesterday announced he wants
27:54
Speaker 3: to get rid of DEI bike lanes? He thinks that
27:57
Speaker 3: bicycling is woke and he wants to cut all funding
28:02
Speaker 3: for the isolated bicycle lanes and the things that provide
28:06
Speaker 3: safety for people that are bikers, bicyclists, not motorcyclists. Because, again,
28:13
Speaker 3: his fat 290-pound McDonald's-laden ass who hadn't been on a bicycle,
28:18
Speaker 3: if he sat on a bicycle, his ass would engulf
28:20
Speaker 3: the whole bike and eat it up. He thinks that
28:24
Speaker 3: biking is woke. So yesterday he announced he would not
28:27
Speaker 3: fund DEI bike lanes because somehow a bike lane has
28:33
Speaker 3: something to do with diversity, equity, and inclusion. That's how
28:37
Speaker 3: crazy these people are.
28:41
Speaker 5: As a half-Dutch person, half-Dutch-Canadian, for the love of God,
28:46
Speaker 5: do not send these people to Holland.
28:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he'd have a heart attack. Out of India,
28:53
Speaker 3: by the way, I read this morning that Hilton is
28:55
Speaker 3: betting on India as the next big tourist market, and
28:59
Speaker 3: that other hoteliers are doing the same thing. They are
29:02
Speaker 3: expanding into India. Weston, Marriott, Hilton... They're betting on India
29:09
Speaker 3: being the next big tourist destination. I'm like, well, if
29:12
Speaker 3: you want to smell human feces and roast, okay.
29:16
Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting.
29:17
Speaker 5: I mean, if you like New Delhi, Mumbai, some of
29:20
Speaker 5: these big cities, they have areas of wealth. And I
29:25
Speaker 5: forget if it was quarterly or annually, the GDP growth
29:28
Speaker 5: of India was something like 6% or a little over,
29:32
Speaker 5: which was significantly higher than a lot of other places.
29:35
Speaker 4: I mean, Canada's over 3%. The United States is... over 1%.
29:40
Speaker 3: Well, if we're talking India, let's talk about the first-of-its-kind
29:43
Speaker 3: cafe in India, where dignity and inclusion is on the
29:46
Speaker 3: top of the menu. As a famous royal family works
29:49
Speaker 3: to permanently change LGBTQI lives, it's Ghazra. And the name of...
29:57
Speaker 3: It's in.
29:59
Speaker 3: Vadodara? V-A-D-O-D-A-R-A? How would you pronounce that? Vidoria? Vadodara?
30:07
Speaker 4: Vadodara. Vadodara Gaza Cafe.
30:09
Speaker 3: So in Vadodara, there is a cafe, and basically it's
30:13
Speaker 3: a little gay cafe. And that is.
30:19
Speaker 3: And their little sign up front says, Our differences give
30:22
Speaker 3: India its color. Our unity gives India its strength. That's...
30:28
Speaker 3: A rather wonderful, positive message, if you ask me. And so,
30:35
Speaker 3: you know, we talk about India a few times here
30:38
Speaker 3: on This Gay Week. A lot of times it's not good.
30:42
Speaker 3: But I would say as a nation, they're struggling with
30:45
Speaker 3: this issue right now. The young people are for equality,
30:49
Speaker 3: trans rights, gay rights, all of that. The older establishment
30:53
Speaker 3: is still bucking it. But it would appear that India
30:57
Speaker 3: is moving towards more inclusion and diversity and equity as
31:01
Speaker 3: they move forward.
31:05
Speaker 4: That's generally true.
31:06
Speaker 5: I'm aware of some guidelines that have been put in
31:10
Speaker 5: place by some of the main psychiatric associations for LGBTQ
31:13
Speaker 5: plus inclusion. I'd have to double check on the specifics,
31:18
Speaker 5: but I haven't done the background on.
31:19
Speaker 4: That in full.
31:21
Speaker 5: So there are some positive moves around that. same-sex marriage,
31:27
Speaker 5: gender and sexual identity equality.
31:29
Speaker 3: Well, they have their first out royal members.
31:33
Speaker 8: Yes.
31:33
Speaker 3: If you run the Lakshya Trust, it's a charitable trust founded... Oh,
31:41
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32:37
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32:39
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32:42
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32:44
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32:47
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33:01
Speaker 3: All right, we are back. So this didn't just happen,
33:04
Speaker 3: this cafe. It happened because Prince Manvendrasan Gohil, long first name,
33:14
Speaker 3: Manvendrasan and then Gohil, G-O-H-I-L, of Rajpipla, R-A-J-P-I-P-L-A. How could
33:24
Speaker 3: you not be gay if you're from Rajpipla? He is
33:27
Speaker 3: described as the first openly gay member of India's erstwhile
33:31
Speaker 3: royalty for the LGBTQ community. And Prince Manvendrasingh Gohil of Rajpipa,
33:44
Speaker 3: or Pipla, started the Lakshya Trust, which is a trust
33:47
Speaker 3: to help LGBTQI endeavors. And he started this cafe here.
33:53
Speaker 3: as a way in the city of Vadodara. He started
33:59
Speaker 3: this cafe as a way to help promote diversity. And
34:02
Speaker 3: so that is a positive news story coming out of India.
34:06
Speaker 3: And it's happening because one of the members of the
34:09
Speaker 3: royal family has finally been honest enough to say that
34:14
Speaker 3: they are LGBTQ. And, you know, Scott Jacobson in the Ukraine...
34:21
Speaker 3: which I'm just used to saying now, when you go
34:23
Speaker 3: back to Canada, it'll feel weird. If you ever go back,
34:24
Speaker 3: I don't think you're ever going back to Canada. This
34:32
Speaker 3: happens a lot. In other words, formerly homophobic institutions change
34:39
Speaker 3: when members of those institutions come out as gay. You know,
34:45
Speaker 3: and suddenly, we haven't had an openly gay royal, as
34:49
Speaker 3: far as I know, in Britain. I don't, I could
34:53
Speaker 3: be wrong, but I don't believe.
34:56
Speaker 4: I know that we're gay royals.
34:57
Speaker 5: It's not the people of the royal family that's gay.
34:59
Speaker 5: It's the institution, the royal family.
35:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean. That's gay. Yes, queens and the like.
35:06
Speaker 3: I don't know. Has there been a... There's been a...
35:09
Speaker 3: I believe there has been gay... Well, if you watch Red, White,
35:11
Speaker 3: and Royal Blue, which is that wonderful movie that's now
35:15
Speaker 3: getting a sequel. But let me ask Chet. Has there
35:19
Speaker 3: been any open members... Yes. Of the royal family that
35:23
Speaker 3: were gay. Who were they?
35:25
Speaker 4: King Edward II.
35:27
Speaker 3: King Edward II?
35:28
Speaker 4: King James I.
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Speaker 3: Publicly acknowledged as gay. Prince Man... Oh, well, first we've
35:35
Speaker 3: got India. Prince Manvendra Singh Gohil of India is the
35:39
Speaker 3: clearest modern example. He publicly came out 20 years ago
35:43
Speaker 3: in 2006. His family initially disowned him. He later became
35:48
Speaker 3: a prominent gay rights activist and has worked extensively on
35:51
Speaker 3: AIDS issues in India. That's a huge issue in India, AIDS.
35:57
Speaker 3: Condoms are still rare and they can't get access to PrEP.
36:01
Speaker 3: It's hard. Lord Ivar Mountbatten. Now, Mountbatten is the name
36:05
Speaker 3: of this current royal family. That was the queen's last name, Mountbatten.
36:10
Speaker 3: Prince Andrew is Andrew Mountbatten now because that, you know,
36:14
Speaker 3: He is a cousin of the late Queen Elizabeth and
36:16
Speaker 3: a member of the extended royals. He came out in 2016. And,
36:20
Speaker 3: of course, Egon von Furstenberg, well, we knew about him,
36:23
Speaker 3: born in Germany. He was a member of the royal.
36:27
Speaker 3: King James VI of Scotland had extraordinary intimate relationships with
36:32
Speaker 3: male favorites, particularly George Villiers, Duke of Buckingham. And Edward
36:38
Speaker 3: II of England, another famous case because of his intense
36:41
Speaker 3: relationship with Piers Gaveston, not Morgan, and later Hugh Dispenser.
36:48
Speaker 3: Why have I not seen movies about these guys? There
36:52
Speaker 3: was also Prince George, Duke of Kent, uncle of Queen
36:55
Speaker 3: Elizabeth II. They reported that he liked both men and
36:59
Speaker 3: women alike. Wow. So there's been more than a few
37:04
Speaker 3: royals that.
37:05
Speaker 4: Have That could be a television series.
37:09
Speaker 3: Yes, it could be. I'm like, why is there not
37:12
Speaker 3: a series about these people?
37:13
Speaker 4: Each episode is about each individual person. Yes! Not a
37:17
Speaker 4: huge budget necessarily either.
37:18
Speaker 3: Come on, get Netflix on the phone. Get Ryan Murphy
37:21
Speaker 3: on the phone.
37:22
Speaker 5: There are so many Shakespearean plays that are done in
37:26
Speaker 5: different eras, right, thematically. Just get the costumes and then
37:31
Speaker 5: build the sets around those costumes for each little piece.
37:35
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I support you on this. I did
37:37
Speaker 3: not know. I'm learning something on my own show. I
37:42
Speaker 3: did not know that there were these openly gay members
37:45
Speaker 3: of the royal family. Oh, James Stable in the chat room. Scott,
37:52
Speaker 3: James Stable in the chat room. Very learned individual, former pathologist.
37:57
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39:03
Speaker 3: All right, we are back. We have a question for
39:05
Speaker 3: Scott from the chat room at youtube.com forward slash reallycarell.
39:08
Speaker 3: But before we go to it, I want to show
39:09
Speaker 3: everyone this picture. Everyone take a look at this picture. Scott,
39:13
Speaker 3: you can see it too. I just found this picture.
39:16
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had it. In the front,
39:20
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39:25
Speaker 3: her is another little black doggy, which is her sister.
39:28
Speaker 3: The brown doggy is her brother, and the big dog
39:31
Speaker 3: is her mom. And that was actually the dog that
39:35
Speaker 3: I went to adopt when I went to the shelter,
39:38
Speaker 3: or to the Petco thing. I went to adopt her mom,
39:42
Speaker 3: and then I met Ember. And I found this picture
39:45
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39:48
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39:52
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39:55
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39:58
Speaker 3: Tails or to my favorite PK at Captain, oh, I'm
40:04
Speaker 3: forgetting the name. It's Captain, oh, well, she'll email me
40:08
Speaker 3: and tell me. But they even have an Amazon list.
40:12
Speaker 3: Captain Care, Captain Care, that's it. Um, so that's Ember's mom. And, uh,
40:17
Speaker 3: we just found this and we are actually going to arrange, uh, a, um,
40:23
Speaker 3: family reunion. We're going to try to arrange a family
40:25
Speaker 3: reunion for Ember. Um, all right. So from the chat
40:28
Speaker 3: room for Scott, uh, if you know why in Ukraine
40:33
Speaker 3: is the draft age 26, is that true? They don't
40:36
Speaker 3: draft 18 year olds. They draft 26 and above.
40:40
Speaker 5: So, uh, Yes and no and yes. So yes, they
40:49
Speaker 5: drafted 26. No, they don't have 18. But it's also
40:52
Speaker 5: yes in that it's a 26 but also lower.
40:57
Speaker 4: So they lowered.
40:57
Speaker 5: It from 27 in April 2024 to age 25.
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Speaker 4: Can you hear me?
41:01
Speaker 3: I can.
41:02
Speaker 6: Okay.
41:02
Speaker 4: So 25 is now the....
41:10
Speaker 3: Do you think that's because.
41:11
Speaker 4: Since April 2024.
41:13
Speaker 3: Why do you suppose they... Because I've always thought 18
41:15
Speaker 3: was too young.
41:16
Speaker 4: To drive people.
41:17
Speaker 5: So demographically, they have a very small generation of young
41:22
Speaker 5: adults with low birth rates in the 1990s and 2000s.
41:25
Speaker 5: So they're trying to protect their critical, smaller, young generation.
41:31
Speaker 4: Based on that severe birth rate drop.
41:32
Speaker 3: They're trying to protect the breeding stock, is what you're saying.
41:34
Speaker 3: They're trying to make sure the young, virile sperm makes
41:38
Speaker 3: it through.
41:38
Speaker 6: So....
41:40
Speaker 5: It depends on the person you talk to. Some will
41:44
Speaker 5: talk in those very direct terms. However, and I don't
41:48
Speaker 5: know if that's necessarily directly relevant to LGBTQI plus conversations
41:53
Speaker 5: for this particular show, but it would incorporate them.
41:56
Speaker 4: So I'm just sort of permitting us to answer that
41:58
Speaker 4: particular question.
42:00
Speaker 3: Well, there was a question from the chat room and
42:01
Speaker 3: we always take questions from the chat room. So yeah,
42:05
Speaker 3: he wanted to know like why. I didn't even know
42:07
Speaker 3: it was 26. He knows more than I do. 25.
42:10
Speaker 4: 25.
42:11
Speaker 3: Or 25. He knows more than I do. All right.
42:14
Speaker 3: Let's look at another one of your stories. Well, you
42:18
Speaker 3: can pick it. I just pulled up the Paris homophobic
42:21
Speaker 3: one that we talked about. But what's one that you
42:23
Speaker 3: want to talk about?
42:26
Speaker 4: Taipei.
42:26
Speaker 5: So from Taipei Times, there was a review that examined
42:30
Speaker 5: Cao Ying-chou's fear of queer Taiwan and detailed how churches, naturally,
42:36
Speaker 5: political parties, nationalism, and connections with the U.S. religious right, naturally,
42:40
Speaker 5: shaped anti-LGBTQ plus mobilization. So the study traces Taiwan's marriage
42:45
Speaker 5: equality backlash, which they had a while ago, and especially
42:47
Speaker 5: the 2018 successful referendums and politics.
42:53
Speaker 3: But notice how the subtitle of his book is, Anti-LGBTQ
42:59
Speaker 3: movements between Taiwan and the U.S. religious right. It goes
43:05
Speaker 3: back to what we have always said, which is we export,
43:08
Speaker 3: our religious right exports its anti-gay hatred.
43:12
Speaker 5: The true power of the United States is less economic
43:17
Speaker 5: than it was before and still more in its soft power.
43:21
Speaker 4: People wanted to be American for a long time.
43:24
Speaker 3: Now, he joined, for his studies, he actually joined anti-LGBTQ
43:31
Speaker 3: groups at their rallies and church services. He attended training
43:34
Speaker 3: camps for religious youth, abstinence-only sex education. He gathered insights
43:40
Speaker 3: in their organizational strategies and internal dynamics. Isn't that interesting
43:45
Speaker 3: that he actually went and joined? He signed up and said, okay,
43:48
Speaker 3: let's see what's going on. Anti-LGBTQ conservatives had no need
43:53
Speaker 3: to organize social movements because Taiwan's state apparatus itself served
43:57
Speaker 3: as a powerful anti-LGBTQ oppressor. So in other words, they
44:02
Speaker 3: didn't have to look too far for their fuel for
44:05
Speaker 3: their anti-gay movements because the government was already in the
44:08
Speaker 3: business of depriving gay people equal rights and spreading homophobic prejudice.
44:13
Speaker 3: He terms it heteronormative exclusion and that it was so
44:18
Speaker 3: ingrained that that not until 1994 did the Ministry of
44:21
Speaker 3: Justice explicitly define marriage as a union of one man
44:25
Speaker 3: and one woman. Like a state-run corporation that's been privatized,
44:30
Speaker 3: the analogy, not the author's anti-LGBTQ conservatism, now has survived
44:35
Speaker 3: in the marketplace. Isn't that interesting? But you think of
44:40
Speaker 3: Taiwan and Thailand as very pro-gay. At least I do. Well,
44:44
Speaker 3: not Taiwan. I think of Thailand as very pro-gay. I
44:47
Speaker 3: don't really know much about Taiwan other than China fights
44:50
Speaker 3: over it all the time. The overlap between Taiwanese Christian
44:54
Speaker 3: conservatism and its American counterpart is only partial, he argues.
45:00
Speaker 3: Christian morality and heteropatriarchal privilege, but the former further includes Confucian,
45:08
Speaker 3: filial piety and Han Chinese and Taiwanese nationalism. So what
45:13
Speaker 3: he's saying is that gay hatred isn't just exclusive to Christians,
45:17
Speaker 3: that there have been other religions, including Buddhism and Confucian
45:22
Speaker 3: and Taiwanese nationalism, that have in fact participated in anti-gay rhetoric.
45:30
Speaker 3: I always take that up. You know, people say, oh,
45:32
Speaker 3: the Dalai Lama and Buddhist. And I'm like, the Dalai
45:34
Speaker 3: Lama was not for gay people. The last one, the
45:37
Speaker 3: new one is. Well, the new one. Well, not really.
45:42
Speaker 3: The new Dalai Lama still hasn't gotten on board the
45:45
Speaker 3: full equality train, which is interesting to me. You know,
45:52
Speaker 3: Buddhists are supposed to be so passive. And yet being
45:54
Speaker 3: gay is a line that obviously.
45:58
Speaker 5: There's a complex. story around that, too. I mean, even
46:02
Speaker 5: around women in leadership, for instance. If you want to
46:05
Speaker 5: make that argument, too.
46:06
Speaker 3: Are there any women Buddhist leaders? There's not, are there?
46:10
Speaker 4: Not many, if any.
46:13
Speaker 5: There are some structural issues that are sort of compounded
46:15
Speaker 5: in a lot of these things. I think a lot
46:17
Speaker 5: of these equality factors converge on a lot of the
46:22
Speaker 5: same topics. So even though we talk about LGBTQI +,
46:24
Speaker 5: a lot, there's so many convergent inequality issues.
46:28
Speaker 3: And, you know, you sent a lot of stories about
46:30
Speaker 3: sports and how there's some sportsters coming out, you know,
46:35
Speaker 3: footballers and others coming out. But this week, the story
46:41
Speaker 3: that got me, partially because of the naivete of the person,
46:47
Speaker 3: but also because it shined a light on, you know,
46:51
Speaker 3: you think of entertainment as pretty basic, open to gays
46:56
Speaker 3: and lesbians. Not all of it, but it's historically been
47:00
Speaker 3: a place where you'll find a lot of gays and
47:02
Speaker 3: lesbians and a lot of acceptance for gays and lesbians.
47:06
Speaker 3: But have you heard, we reported here on the show
47:10
Speaker 3: before it hit the regular press about that, what's it,
47:13
Speaker 3: Bearclaw or Beartooth or whatever the name of the group was,
47:16
Speaker 3: it was a heavy rock band.
47:19
Speaker 4: That's right, yeah.
47:21
Speaker 3: And Shlomo, their lead singer, had come out as gay.
47:26
Speaker 3: And to us, this was weeks ago for us. We
47:28
Speaker 3: covered this weeks ago. And he has since reported that
47:35
Speaker 3: the homophobia that has been heaped upon him has been
47:39
Speaker 3: overwhelming and psychologically damaging. First of all, what the fuck
47:43
Speaker 3: did he expect? But second of all, it goes to
47:49
Speaker 3: if he had been a pop artist, probably wouldn't have
47:55
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been that big a deal. Harry Styles is marrying,
47:58
Speaker 3: what's her name? God bless him. He got him a good,
48:01
Speaker 3: what's her name? Zoe Kravitz. I think they're getting married.
48:04
Speaker 3: But if Harry Styles had come out as gay, you know,
48:07
Speaker 3: he already wears dresses. If he had come out as gay,
48:10
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have faced an enormous backlash from his fans.
48:14
Speaker 3: This guy did because he does screaming rock music. And
48:20
Speaker 3: that is like, the anthems of incels everywhere. And so
48:25
Speaker 3: what did that audience of that kind of rock, that
48:30
Speaker 3: bear claw or bear tooth or whatever their name is,
48:34
Speaker 3: that kind of music that they do, it's like country artists.
48:38
Speaker 3: Orville Peck is possibly the most famous country artist right
48:42
Speaker 3: now that is out and in country music. And he's
48:47
Speaker 3: not getting played on country radio. And he did songs
48:50
Speaker 3: of Willie Nelson. He's done some big shit. But he's
48:54
Speaker 3: still not getting played on country radio. So country and
48:57
Speaker 3: rock are still two of the areas of entertainment that
49:03
Speaker 3: being gay is not cool. And I find that really interesting,
49:07
Speaker 3: that gayness is accepted by genre. Dance music, no problem.
49:13
Speaker 3: Pop music, no problem. Ballad singer, no problem. If Michael
49:16
Speaker 3: Buble had come out as gay, no one would have cared.
49:18
Speaker 3: But rock? or country? You know? So that was interesting
49:26
Speaker 3: this week. It was a story that he was shocked
49:29
Speaker 3: at the amount of homophobia he's received. And I said
49:32
Speaker 3: then he wasn't paying attention. He just, you know, he
49:36
Speaker 3: should have known it was going to happen.
49:38
Speaker 4: He was blithe.
49:40
Speaker 6: About it.
49:40
Speaker 4: He didn't know.
49:42
Speaker 3: No, you're right. I don't think he thought it would
49:45
Speaker 3: be so bad. We have a wrestling thing here in
49:51
Speaker 3: Las Vegas, downtown, and they have gay wrestlers and drag
49:55
Speaker 3: queen wrestler too. And it's very well attended. So well attended,
50:00
Speaker 3: they now got their own venue. I see that is
50:03
Speaker 3: not the case everywhere. Pittsburgh, They're shutting down after five years.
50:09
Speaker 3: Enjoy Wrestling. And Enjoy Wrestling was one of the most
50:13
Speaker 3: prominent independent pro wrestling promotions in Pennsylvania and an active
50:17
Speaker 3: voice in LGBTQ inclusion in pro wrestling. But now, of course,
50:22
Speaker 3: it's closing up shop. We're pulling the plug while there's
50:25
Speaker 3: still some money in the bank before this thing starts
50:28
Speaker 3: to feel less like a hobby and more like a chore.
50:32
Speaker 3: But we're going to have a farewell tour. The group
50:34
Speaker 3: cited changes in their lives, but also the increased homophobia
50:41
Speaker 3: and lack of funding and lack of support for the
50:44
Speaker 3: LGBTQIA community, particularly in wrestling. One of the gayest sports
50:51
Speaker 3: ever known to mankind, FYI, or womankind. But in Pittsburgh,
50:57
Speaker 3: they are shutting down Enjoy Wrestling because they are saying
51:01
Speaker 3: it's costing us too much money. The audiences are dwindling
51:05
Speaker 3: and we don't want to bottom out before we end
51:08
Speaker 3: up leaving. That's kind of sad, actually. We're losing yet another,
51:16
Speaker 3: you know, for five years.
51:20
Speaker 5: This is something you'll be able to remark on pretty immediately.
51:25
Speaker 5: Which president used to be very prominent in the theatric
51:31
Speaker 5: form of wrestling? back in the day.
51:34
Speaker 3: Well, Donald Trump.
51:37
Speaker 6: Yes.
51:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just had the wrestling match at the White House.
51:40
Speaker 3: He just, you know.
51:43
Speaker 5: Yeah. Was that UFC primarily or just wrestling too?
51:48
Speaker 3: Aren't they the same thing?
51:51
Speaker 4: Kind of. One's more mixed martial arts and one's more fireworks.
51:55
Speaker 3: No, it's all just two grown men oiling up and
51:58
Speaker 3: jumping on each other in a ring. The gayest thing. Wrestling.
52:03
Speaker 3: I can't watch football or wrestling because they're just too gay.
52:06
Speaker 3: Both of them. You know, football. Let's get in tights
52:10
Speaker 3: and get tattooed and wear big black eyeliner under our eyes.
52:14
Speaker 3: Go tackle each other, slap each other on the ass,
52:16
Speaker 3: call each other's names like tight end, wide receiver. Then
52:21
Speaker 3: let's all go shower and prohibit women from coming in
52:24
Speaker 3: the dressing room. I mean, that's the gay. Oh, and
52:27
Speaker 3: dog pile each other. Let's all jump on top of
52:30
Speaker 3: each other in our tights. You know, as we are
52:33
Speaker 3: in our tights, let's all jump on top of each other.
52:37
Speaker 3: It's the gayest sport ever. I cannot watch it. I'm
52:39
Speaker 3: just like that. That's gayer than I am. And the
52:43
Speaker 3: same goes with wrestling. Let's just get oily and grab
52:46
Speaker 3: each other and all. And the same for that ultimate fighting.
52:50
Speaker 3: Let's get in speedos, basically. They wear like nothing and
52:54
Speaker 3: get all tatted up and oiled up and then be
52:57
Speaker 3: put in a cage. And the only way out is
52:59
Speaker 3: to pin the guy to the ground. It's like, well,
53:03
Speaker 3: that's the gayest thing I've ever seen. So I don't,
53:07
Speaker 3: it's too gay for even me. I don't, I opt out.
53:10
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm sorry. This is too queer. I
53:13
Speaker 3: might as well watch water ballet or, you know, figure skating.
53:18
Speaker 3: Interesting point. Two female dancers are going to be dancing
53:20
Speaker 3: on Dancing with the Stars this year, but they've never
53:23
Speaker 3: let gay men, and they've had gay men on the show,
53:26
Speaker 3: but never let them dance with another man, as far
53:28
Speaker 3: as I can, as far as my research would take me.
53:31
Speaker 3: So they are letting two women dance together. As far
53:34
Speaker 3: as I can research, they've never let two men dance
53:37
Speaker 3: together on the show as a team. Two men have
53:40
Speaker 3: danced together on the show, but never as a competing team.
53:44
Speaker 3: But I did very little research. I'd have to do
53:47
Speaker 3: a little more. So I thought that was all.
53:49
Speaker 4: Remember, we'll take a break.
53:51
Speaker 3: But remember, people accept lesbians, but they don't like to
53:54
Speaker 3: see them.
53:54
Speaker 6: Sorry.
54:17
Speaker 3: Now remember, the word is F-U-N-K, funk, honey. Do you
54:22
Speaker 3: wanna funk?
54:23
Speaker 6: Do you wanna funk? Do you, do you, do you?
54:32
Speaker 3: Do you, do you.
54:35
Speaker 6: Do you? Do you, do you, do you?
54:40
Speaker 3: Hey, it's Carell. Go stream Do You Wanna Funk? My
54:43
Speaker 3: tribute to Sylvester. Everywhere you get your music. Carell, do
54:46
Speaker 3: you wanna funk?
54:48
Speaker 2: Now it's showtime.
54:53
Speaker 3: All right, so Dancing with the Stars had Shangela, a
54:57
Speaker 3: drag queen, dancing with Gleb, and they made it to
55:01
Speaker 3: the final and finished fourth. They billed that as the
55:03
Speaker 3: first all-male partnership in history. One of them was dressed
55:07
Speaker 3: like a woman. I don't think that counts. I don't.
55:11
Speaker 3: I don't think that counts. I think it, again, you know,
55:16
Speaker 3: I've said this to you about entertainment. America and the
55:19
Speaker 3: world will watch movies and television shows with lesbians. But
55:23
Speaker 3: when it's gay men, they look at Will and Grace.
55:26
Speaker 3: They never got to kiss. They never, you know, it
55:29
Speaker 3: wasn't until like season 132 that they even got to
55:32
Speaker 3: have boyfriends. But Grace could sleep around with anybody she
55:37
Speaker 3: wanted to. She was always kissing somebody. But Will never
55:41
Speaker 3: kissed a man on screen for years. And that's because America.
55:47
Speaker 3: America has an issue with gay men. Gay women don't
55:51
Speaker 3: bother them. Gay men do.
55:55
Speaker 5: And the show was successful. So maybe it's the abstract
56:01
Speaker 5: of a gay man or gay men together that they're
56:04
Speaker 5: okay with. The fact of it, hugely in denial, and
56:08
Speaker 5: it's an emotional reaction probably.
56:09
Speaker 6: Yes.
56:11
Speaker 3: I have said this openly. When I was watching Heated Rivalry,
56:15
Speaker 3: I got uncomfortable on some of the scenes. And that's
56:19
Speaker 3: because I simply am not used to seeing two gay
56:23
Speaker 3: men do exactly what straight couples do on every show
56:28
Speaker 3: everywhere in the first five minutes. I wasn't used to
56:32
Speaker 3: seeing two gay men do it. And so I was like, oh, oh,
56:35
Speaker 3: this is going to make people uncomfortable. I think I'm uncomfortable.
56:39
Speaker 3: And then I had to get over it. I'm all,
56:41
Speaker 3: you're just not used to seeing this. Because I don't
56:45
Speaker 3: watch like here media or reverie. I don't watch a
56:49
Speaker 3: lot of shows with gay characters. I watch what everyone
56:52
Speaker 3: else watches. I watch the popular shows. Although I will
56:57
Speaker 3: say now that I'm a few seasons into Supernatural, they
57:00
Speaker 3: were a gay couple. I know they're supposed to be brothers,
57:03
Speaker 3: but no, no, no, no, no. They were written like
57:08
Speaker 3: a gay couple. They bicker like a gay couple. There's
57:10
Speaker 3: several episodes where they play a gay couple. They knew
57:15
Speaker 3: what they were doing there. A new book is examining
57:19
Speaker 3: Trump cuts to LGBTQ healthcare. It's called Aftershocks. It details
57:23
Speaker 3: the impact of policy shifts on HIV response and broader
57:26
Speaker 3: public health. I don't know how they could write this
57:29
Speaker 3: book as every single day he is still attacking LGBTQ healthcare.
57:33
Speaker 3: So I don't, you know, I mean, they're going to
57:34
Speaker 3: have to do a sequel to the book pretty quick.
57:39
Speaker 8: Yeah.
57:42
Speaker 4: No objection to that commentary.
57:43
Speaker 3: Well you sent the story I assume you read it
57:45
Speaker 3: uh I um they he said he did not set
57:50
Speaker 3: out to write the book but then all of a
57:52
Speaker 3: sudden he started seeing all these cuts and thought well
57:54
Speaker 3: someone needs to chronicle this so we know exactly how
57:58
Speaker 3: horrific it's been uh and he said while writing the
58:02
Speaker 3: book he realized it was worse than even he thought uh.
58:06
Speaker 4: And that's something I can't always is.
58:07
Speaker 3: Yeah I can't stress that enough um You know, we
58:12
Speaker 3: don't see the results of what Trump is doing as
58:15
Speaker 3: much in the U.S. as they are seeing it in
58:18
Speaker 3: other countries. His cuts to AIDS funding is decimating programs
58:25
Speaker 3: in Africa and other nations. People are dying and they're
58:30
Speaker 3: not getting the drugs they need because of Donald Trump.
58:34
Speaker 3: And while in America, his cuts have been mostly to
58:37
Speaker 3: trans health care, And, you know, gender affirming care, even
58:42
Speaker 3: though they're now giving testosterone to soldiers. In other countries,
58:47
Speaker 3: he attacked the funding for AIDS programs. And that has
58:52
Speaker 3: devastating effects. And everywhere. And it's going to keep going until...
58:59
Speaker 3: Democrats get back in and restore the funding. And you
59:02
Speaker 3: know what, Scott? There is no guarantee that when Democrats
59:06
Speaker 3: take back over, we know they're going to because historically...
59:10
Speaker 3: you know, no party stays in power forever. However, there's
59:14
Speaker 3: no guarantee that they're going to restore all this stuff, that,
59:18
Speaker 3: you know, that they're going to actually put back the
59:21
Speaker 3: funding for the HIV AIDS. We can hope, but there's
59:26
Speaker 3: no guarantee that it's going to happen.
59:34
Speaker 4: It's very true.
59:35
Speaker 3: I think you're pondering.
59:36
Speaker 4: I am pondering.
59:37
Speaker 3: I thought you pondered. You were pondering.
59:40
Speaker 4: I was pondering. I ponder quite a bit. So I was, well,
59:46
Speaker 4: I agree.
59:48
Speaker 5: At the same time, a lot of those big moves
59:51
Speaker 5: for equality in health care, in health, in wellness, in longevity,
59:55
Speaker 5: in other words, and health care. Those were done by
59:58
Speaker 5: people gathering together and probably picketing and putting in pressure
1:00:02
Speaker 5: for policy and law and funding.
1:00:05
Speaker 4: So these.
1:00:08
Speaker 5: Officials as a universal asset have been going very ham
1:00:12
Speaker 5: in targeting a lot of this stuff. And as a Canadian,
1:00:16
Speaker 5: we have universalized health care. And it only started in
1:00:20
Speaker 5: one province. And then everyone else thought it was a
1:00:22
Speaker 5: pretty good idea. And then it became federal. And now
1:00:25
Speaker 5: there's some talks of people I know that are trying
1:00:26
Speaker 5: to put pressure for pharma care, universalized pharma care.
1:00:29
Speaker 4: Because you can leverage as a nation to the suppliers
1:00:34
Speaker 4: for lower costs.
1:00:35
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Question for Canadian. So you guys
1:00:40
Speaker 3: have universal health care, but then you have to pay
1:00:42
Speaker 3: for your drugs?
1:00:45
Speaker 4: Some.
1:00:45
Speaker 3: It depends.
1:00:46
Speaker 5: So, for instance, I know one, so the British Columbia
1:00:48
Speaker 5: Humanist Association, their key research research, program head, he was
1:00:54
Speaker 5: telling me, this.
1:00:54
Speaker 4: Is months and months ago, it was probably in 25.
1:00:58
Speaker 5: One of the programs that he was heading up was
1:01:00
Speaker 5: putting pressure on the federal government to include not just
1:01:04
Speaker 5: one type of contraceptive for women, but a comprehensive suite
1:01:09
Speaker 5: of them.
1:01:09
Speaker 3: Does your government cover PrEP for HIV? Good question. Ours does.
1:01:17
Speaker 3: We cover it here. Well, we did.
1:01:23
Speaker 4: Yes, but it depends on the province and territory and
1:01:25
Speaker 4: your insurance.
1:01:26
Speaker 3: Really? I would have thought that was universal there. I
1:01:29
Speaker 3: would have thought. By the way, we're moving to Medicare
1:01:31
Speaker 3: for All. It's back on the table for the Democrats
1:01:34
Speaker 3: in the 2026 midterms and the 2028 general. And this
1:01:38
Speaker 3: time they say they will get it done. We'll see.
1:01:40
Speaker 3: We only have a couple of minutes. Let's leave with
1:01:41
Speaker 3: a good story. Pride Day at the New York State Fair.
1:01:45
Speaker 3: Pride Day at State Fair features flag raising, LGBTQ events.
1:01:49
Speaker 3: even amongst this political climate. The gay leaders in New
1:01:53
Speaker 3: York said it was a very proud day to see
1:01:55
Speaker 3: the gay pride flag raised at the state fair. There
1:01:59
Speaker 3: were activists that were speaking. There were performers performing on
1:02:03
Speaker 3: the suburban stage. There was a nighttime concert by Melissa Etheridge,
1:02:08
Speaker 3: the patron saint of lesbians everywhere. And a lot of
1:02:12
Speaker 3: gay people went to it and said, I have gay
1:02:15
Speaker 3: kids in my family. I'm proud to support them. State
1:02:18
Speaker 3: Senator Rachel May said gay people are feeling pressure nationally
1:02:23
Speaker 3: and they're under attack from the federal government. So this
1:02:25
Speaker 3: tells them that they are loved and included in the
1:02:28
Speaker 3: state of New York. So that's all good. All right,
1:02:31
Speaker 3: I think we're done. I think we're almost out of here.
1:02:35
Speaker 3: I think I've kept you enough. I think this is
1:02:37
Speaker 3: probably it.
1:02:39
Speaker 6: It's broadcasting from a completely different point of view.
1:02:43
Speaker 3: Yours.
1:02:45
Speaker 6: Listen daily to the Corelcast on your favorite streaming service.
1:02:49
Speaker 3: Oh, no, it's definitely going to be falling down. Y'all,
1:02:57
Speaker 3: I know I'm cutting the end of the show here,
1:02:59
Speaker 3: but repeat what you just said to me.
1:03:01
Speaker 5: Oh, so you were giving a readout and I heard
1:03:05
Speaker 5: either anti-air machine gun fire or an explosion, probably drones
1:03:11
Speaker 5: in the sky.
1:03:12
Speaker 4: Didn't sound that loud.
1:03:13
Speaker 5: And so I did this to go here because I
1:03:15
Speaker 5: have noise cancellation on. So when I hear something, it's
1:03:18
Speaker 5: likely something significant.
1:03:21
Speaker 3: We're just sitting here talking about a gay state fair
1:03:23
Speaker 3: in New York and drones and bombs are falling around you.
1:03:27
Speaker 3: I wonder how many people with noise-canceling headphones have been
1:03:31
Speaker 3: harmed from bombs because they didn't hear them coming.
1:03:35
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
1:03:36
Speaker 5: I mean, some nights when I'm sitting in the closet
1:03:40
Speaker 5: or the bathroom, I'll take the noise-canceling headphones.
1:03:43
Speaker 3: Some nights when I'm sitting in the closet or the bathroom...
1:03:50
Speaker 3: First of all, on a show called This Gay Week,
1:03:53
Speaker 3: ain't no one should be sitting in a closet. Okay,
1:03:55
Speaker 3: that's the first thing. Closets are not safe. It's okay.
1:03:58
Speaker 3: It's okay.
1:03:59
Speaker 4: Every morning I'm alive and I come out of the closet.
1:04:06
Speaker 3: Well, then we'll leave it with that. Every morning, no
1:04:12
Speaker 3: matter what happens the night before, he comes out of
1:04:14
Speaker 3: the closet alive. And that is a good thing.
1:04:18
Speaker 6: All right.
1:04:18
Speaker 3: We'll end with that. I am Carell. Be who you
1:04:21
Speaker 3: want to be. Slender didn't hurt anybody. Scott, please stay
1:04:24
Speaker 3: safe over there. I know that my audience worries about you.
1:04:27
Speaker 3: I worry about you because you're in a worrisome place. But,
1:04:32
Speaker 3: you know, what else can we do? All right, we'll
1:04:34
Speaker 3: just end it.
1:04:35
Speaker 8: Bye, everybody.
1:04:36
Speaker 3: We'll see you. Oh, by the way, here's a show note.
1:04:38
Speaker 3: I'm gone until Tuesday, okay? I normally take Fridays off.
1:04:43
Speaker 3: Monday is a holiday, and I am taking it as
1:04:45
Speaker 3: a holiday. So I won't be back live until Tuesday.
1:04:49
Speaker 3: Have a really great Labor Day weekend. Go out, do
1:04:52
Speaker 3: something fun. I'm going to have friends in town. My
1:04:56
Speaker 3: friend Devin is probably coming to town. Patriotism. But I
1:05:05
Speaker 3: will not be ignored. Go out. Have a great time.
1:05:09
Speaker 3: It's the end of summer bash. The temperatures have cooled down.
1:05:12
Speaker 3: It was 75 in Las Vegas this morning. Amber is
1:05:14
Speaker 3: now running through the park. She is joyous. So please
1:05:18
Speaker 3: go have a wonderful, wonderful Labor Day. And you, Scott,
1:05:23
Speaker 3: you don't have a holiday. It's not a holiday Monday
1:05:25
Speaker 3: in the Ukraine.
1:05:26
Speaker 5: I work seven days a week, Monday to Sunday, morning
1:05:30
Speaker 5: to night.
1:05:31
Speaker 3: Did you hear Howard Stern is gone? My four day
1:05:35
Speaker 3: a week was patterned after Howard Stern. He does three
1:05:38
Speaker 3: days a week, but I thought, okay, I'll do four.
1:05:40
Speaker 3: But now in his new deal, he just announced he's
1:05:43
Speaker 3: doing one day a week. And they're filming that to
1:05:47
Speaker 3: put it on HBO Max. So he's doing an HBO
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Speaker 3: Max show that they're also going to put on Sirius
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Speaker 3: as his audio show. And that's it. No more four
1:05:58
Speaker 3: or five day a week for Howard Stern.
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Speaker 4: How much is the contract? What's he getting paid?
1:06:05
Speaker 3: Huge. They're throwing shit tons of money at him.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably like the South Park thing where there's
1:06:11
Speaker 5: incredible sums of money being thrown.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for one day a week.
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're probably making more money than Larry David.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll take 10% of that and do five
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Speaker 3: days a week. Because it's like a $ 25 million contract.
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Speaker 3: It's like, you know.
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Speaker 5: That's a really good quick subtle note to conclude on
1:06:27
Speaker 5: in American media. People who know how to manage the
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Speaker 5: money and not fuck up, who are really funny or
1:06:33
Speaker 5: know how to talk, they make good money.
1:06:36
Speaker 4: No, we don't.
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Speaker 3: That's a lie. That's a lie. We don't. I'm really
1:06:39
Speaker 3: funny and I know how to talk and trust me.
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Speaker 3: And a lot of my friends, Phil Hendry, I could
1:06:44
Speaker 3: go down the line. No, there's maybe 10 of us
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Speaker 3: that make a ton of money. Hassan Piker is making
1:06:52
Speaker 3: a ton of money right now. And he's cute. But
1:06:56
Speaker 3: he's very cute. I would have sex with Hasan Piker.
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Speaker 3: We'd have to talk about Israel later, but I'd have
1:07:02
Speaker 3: sex with him. Although he regrets, he actually has said
1:07:06
Speaker 3: that he regrets the quote that they keep circulating about
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Speaker 3: Israel that he made years ago, seven years ago. He
1:07:14
Speaker 3: said he regrets that quote, mainly because it was out
1:07:17
Speaker 3: of context, but also because he's changed his viewpoint. He
1:07:21
Speaker 3: still condemns Israel and calls them a terrorist state, which
1:07:24
Speaker 3: they are, and all of that. But he's not anti-Semitic.
1:07:29
Speaker 3: He doesn't hate Jews or anything like that. And he's
1:07:32
Speaker 3: on a tour right now kind of softening his image
1:07:35
Speaker 3: because Democrats are being pigeonholed or the right is using
1:07:44
Speaker 3: it as a thing against Democrats if they are with
1:07:47
Speaker 3: Hassan Piker. And he's like, that's ridiculous.
1:07:50
Speaker 4: If we can allow Laura Loomer to change, we can
1:07:53
Speaker 4: allow others to change.
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Speaker 3: Did you see what she called people this last week?
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Speaker 3: Your friend, Laura Loomer. Did you see her post this week?
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Speaker 4: No, my friend.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Laura Loomer called black people, black ghetto bitches. She
1:08:08
Speaker 3: said she's tired.
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Speaker 4: That's a lot in one phrase.
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Speaker 3: Oh, she, she didn't just stop with that phrase. She
1:08:14
Speaker 3: did a whole post about, talking about how she's sick
1:08:17
Speaker 3: of being called racist, and then she goes on a
1:08:22
Speaker 3: racist rant calling people black ghetto bitches. And other people.
1:08:26
Speaker 3: Let me hear it. Before we go, since you're here,
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Speaker 3: Laura Loomer, racist, ghetto, quote. She, yeah, it's here on CNN. Yeah. Yeah.
1:08:44
Speaker 3: Laura Loomer posted on X that Florida State Representative Angie
1:08:47
Speaker 3: Nixon is a ghetto black communist bitch. She also described
1:08:52
Speaker 3: several black female public figures as ghetto, entitled, race-obsessed, destructive
1:08:57
Speaker 3: black bitches. She used the similar ghetto slurs in other posts.
1:09:04
Speaker 3: House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries called her a stone-cold racist.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, her post was, it was just, I mean,
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Speaker 3: even I sat there and just went, Okay, you know,
1:09:18
Speaker 3: that's going a bit far. But yeah. And so the
1:09:23
Speaker 3: right will not be condemned because they hang out with
1:09:27
Speaker 3: Laura Loomer. But the left is being taken to task
1:09:30
Speaker 3: because they hang out with Hasan Piker. Go figure that out.
1:09:34
Speaker 3: Laura Loomer is calling Americans black ghetto bitches and everything else. Meanwhile,
1:09:40
Speaker 3: all Hasan Piker is doing is saying he has a
1:09:43
Speaker 3: problem with Israel. and Zionist. He doesn't like Zionist. And,
1:09:48
Speaker 3: you know, politics is just strange. It's a strange place.
1:09:52
Speaker 3: All right. We will leave on that. I am Carell.
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Speaker 3: I'll be back on Tuesday. Have a lovely, lovely holiday weekend.
1:09:58
Speaker 3: Be who you want to be so long as it
1:09:59
Speaker 3: doesn't hurt anybody. Bye, my ghetto bitches. To every ghetto
1:10:06
Speaker 3: bitch out there. That's who I want to hang out with,
1:10:09
Speaker 3: by the way, Scott, just so you know. You will
1:10:11
Speaker 3: find me with the black ghetto bitches, okay? Because they're
1:10:14
Speaker 3: going to have the most fun, have the best food,
1:10:16
Speaker 3: be wearing the best clothes, and they're going to be
1:10:18
Speaker 3: talking shit on everybody. So you'll find me with them, okay?