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Don't Vote for White People at the Emmys? · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start your
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day when you're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show. Tuesday morning, eleventh
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day of June. I'm West Thanks for joining me. We have a couple
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of stories that are they kind of fall into the pop culture realm a bit,
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and I kind of connect the two because of the nature of the two
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stories. These are two stories that aren't necessarily pushing the needle when it comes
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to politics, not necessarily directly as far as the stories go, but there
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is this underlying element to it that does tie into what's going on this year
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in our political realm, as we're pushing our way towards election Day of November.
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And it was a couple of months ago, I guess I talked about
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it here and it was there was an interview with actor John Leguizamo, who
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I mean, let's be honest, the very fact that and John Leguizamo to
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me can be really funny. I've seen him in some movies where I really
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liked him. I've also seen him in movies where I just thought anyone on
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the planet could have played that role. And I start talking like if I
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watch a movie and I see it, and I'm I'm, you know,
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not what you would call an actor, you know, a performer at times.
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I do, and I've had some times to perform and do things,
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but I'm not an actor, certainly not a trained actor. And I've seen
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some of his movies and I've thought I could do that. I mean I
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could. He's not one of those people that you just you see them and
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you think, oh, holy cow, like that is next level performance going
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on there. And then some actors you kind of see them in things and
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you just think, yeah, they could have gotten anybody, you know,
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that didn't necessarily need to be him, could have been just about anybody.
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And this isn't a knock on him. Maybe it's a credit to him being
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good at what he does where it just sort of is seamless. I don't
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know, but a couple of roles I've seen him, man, I honestly,
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and to me this is kind of not necessarily a credit to him by
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saying that I think I could have done it, and I know that I
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couldn't have done it, you know, I couldn't have been some of the
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character that he's characters he's played. But you know, sometimes you just think,
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man, I don't know what really makes this guy stand out. There's
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actors that do. There's the Denzel Washington's of the world that are you know,
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in this elite group of actors, the Jack Nicholson's, the Tom Hanks
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roles that you think no one else could have done this. I don't know
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that anyone could have done some of these roles. Even actors that we just
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we now know that they're just horrible, but their performances were great. Think
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about the Kevin Spacey movies that we've seen and you just think, my gosh,
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that guy is just incredible, just incredible. And then you find out
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things that happened behind the scenes and you go, oh, that's not that's
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not what I want to hear. That's disappointing. It's horrible. John Leguizamo
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is. I've seen him in things where he was good. I've seen him
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in things where I again, I just thought they could have gotten anybody to
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do it. I remember telling someone kind of recently, like I saw him
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in something he kind of played a washed up actor that nobody really cared about
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anymore, and I thought, that's kind of on point. That's kind of
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on point. Isn't it anyway, And it's this is a good this is
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an indicator when and anytime he's becomes news relevant in any way. They always
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referenced the fact that he was one of the stars of Super Mario Brothers.
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Not the animated hit, the mega hit that just happened that had Chris Pratt
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in it. No, no, no, no. He was actually critical
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of that because you know why, it is Chris Pratt playing an Italian plumber.
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And then John Leguizamo, of course, was in the original and mocked
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a bit of a cult hit. I guess Super Mario Brothers Live action movie
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that Bob Hoskins played Mario and John Leguizamo played Luigi. That was in the
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early nineties. All right, so we're it's been a while when when your
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relevant movie search has when people are going, let us see what what this
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guy's been in, and that's the one that's the standout, you know,
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just saying, And almost every time they referenced that he was in Super Mario
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Brothers. You know, they might mention a couple of other things that he's
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done, but it's interesting to me that they always seem to reference that movie
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any anytime because they have to remind us who he is, and for some
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reason of that is the movie that they used. And he's been in some
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really good movies. He has he has been in some really good movies.
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Super Mario Brothers was not one of them. Okay. Anyway, John lake
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was Amo a couple of months ago was telling everybody about how Republicans are doing
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a good job of getting the attention of Hispanic voters, of Latin voters or
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LATINX. He probably used the term Latin X. I don't know, I
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don't remember exactly how he put it, but he said, Republicans are tapping
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into is the reason they're starting to went over Hispanic voters is that you know,
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they're they're saying the message that Hispanic voters need to hear or that you
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know, they're the Republicans think that Hispanic voters need to hear it, and
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it's, uh, it's starting to convince them. So that was a newsworthy
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story about him, and I thought it was an interesting observation some of the
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comments that he was making. So now here we go with John Leguizamo.
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Over the weekend on Sunday, I guess he put a full page ad in
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the New York Times, and he was asking that Emmy voters not vote for
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white nominees in the Emmys. He said, I know everyone's exhausted about inclusion,
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but not us who are not included. So that's why I took this
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ad out in the New York Times. He says, America is better when
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it is inclusive. It's more profitable, it's more creative. Let's not give
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up. I'm still woke, are you? So this is someone who has
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you know, he's publicly again. He's talked about he's concerned about Republicans making
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inroads with Hispanic voters. He's talked about critical race theory. He did this
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post where he went off and basically said, nobody's teaching that in schools.
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Nobody's trying to win over kids in schools with critical race theory. He tried
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to give the explanation that critical race theory is really what we've been told many
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many times before, and it just doesn't hold any weight, but that it's
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just a way of understanding the racism that's not the apparent racism. And I'm
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paraphrasing, this isn't really what I mean. What he said full of expletives,
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but He basically said, you know, and we've heard this, he's
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following up this idea that critical race theory is a way of seeing the racism
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that's there, that's not the outward name calling type of racism. Again,
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I'm paraphrasing, and I don't want to misquote him, and I know that
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I paraphrase what he said about Hispanic voters. But the reality here is just
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for him to say, no, no, no, critical race theory is
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not a bad thing. It's helping us. I guess with this wokeness that
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he's referencing in this ad, so and he says, I guess this is
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more. In the ad that he took out, which was an open letter
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to the Television Academy, he said, I know you're tired of hearing words
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like inclusivity and diversity treading water while you're trying to understand how to put actors
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behind those sentiments. He said, Let's let this be a start of a
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new era. Let's not continue to whitewash our award shows. Instead, let
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this be the year be the catalyst. Let this year be a catalyst that
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inspires the next generation of minority and underrepresented artists, a generation who might finally
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see a reflection of themselves on the stage and think, if they can,
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maybe I can too. Now, this isn't a new idea in Hollywood.
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We've seen changes made at the Oscars, We've seen some changes made all the
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award shows, and it's done nothing to help the interest in the award shows.
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And when you start getting into situations where you know, are you are
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you picking who's the best? Are you picking the best movie or the best
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TV show or the best performance, or are you excluding people who maybe should
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have won for the purposes of saying, well, we're you know, white
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people don't deserve to win because you know, again they've kind of got it
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made. You know, they're overrepresented and we're underrepresented, so you need to
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make sure that we win. So are people who look like us or look
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like other people that aren't properly represented. Otherwise you know, there won't be
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the next generation of people to be represented. Which obviously there's a number of
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flaws in all of this, as far as the awards don't mean anything.
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This is like allowing an athlete to take steroids. It be common knowledge that
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they took steroids, and then you know, I don't know set records,
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home run records and things, and then pretend that the accomplishments of the people
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who came before them, that had the records before them without the use of
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steroids, take those records away and say it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't
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matter that there was some sort of assistance to go with it, because that's
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basically what this is. This is by excluding a group of people because of
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how they look, because of their race, and ignoring the fact that maybe
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they should win, you're basically, you know, you're basically kicking Hank Aaron
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out of the club, right, that's what you're doing. You're saying,
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you know, a great accomplishment, you did this, you did this without
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the assistance. But it's more important that we acknowledge the people who have done
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it with the assistance. That's more important for all of us involved and think
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about like the layers of the Hank Aaron thing with this. But that's not
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even the other pop culture story that I want to talk about, because with
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all of this going on, we have a similar kind of weird thing that's
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happening in the WNBA. Caitlin Clark, an all time leading scorer in college
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basketball man or woman, a phenom in college basketball and suddenly was drawing more
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eyes and more attention to college basketball than it had seen in quite some time.
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And there've been some accomplishments in women's college basketball that definitely drew eyes to
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the sport, but not in a way that Caitlyn Clark did. Now,
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you can make the case that people were mostly interested in her because of her
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race, because she stood out. But let's be real for a minute here.
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We're not just talking about, Oh wow, there's a pretty good player
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in women's college basketball who happens to be white. So people are getting excited.
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It's oh my gosh, she's done something that no other college basketball player,
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man or woman has ever done. Oh and by the way, she
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happens to be white. So Caitlyn Clark then gets to the WNBA and she's
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taking a and by the way, her arrival there drawing eyes and attention to
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the WNBA. Viewership is at an all time high. It's still not what
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the NBA is, but she's drawing and not even close, but she's drawing
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attention. Viewership is up, attendance's games is up, and it's in large
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part because of her. It's a little bit of the messy effect now the
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messy effect in soccer. Of course, for MLS it's a whole different deal
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because Messi megastar, you know, best soccer player in the world. Different
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sport, different situation, but there's a bit of that that's at play.
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Caitlyn Clark is good for women's college basketball. Kaitlyn Clark was good for the
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WNBA, and the WNBA players that have to now share this spotlight with her
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aren't seeing the fact that she's making the spotlight bigger. They're seeing the fact
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that she's only getting this attention code she's white. She's only getting this attention
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because and you know, fill in the blank. Whatever the reasons it want
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to be, even to the point of again hurting the interest of women's basketball,
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they've now decided that they didn't pick her to play on the Olympic team
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for women's basketball. Now, the argument they made was it'd be a little
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insulting for her to have to sit on the bench because there's so many great
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players on the team and she won't get a lot of playing time, and
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we're worried that her fans will be upset about how little playing time that she's
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gonna get. So We're not gonna go through that. We're just gonna you
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know, we just won't put her on the team at all. Are you
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nuts? Think about the links that professional sports go to to draw eyes from
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around the world. This is an opportunity to have her compete in the Olympics
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on the world stage, have people from around the world see her, even
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if she is just a bench player. And let's be honest, team's good.
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Team's really good team's gonna probably win gold, right, so sticker in
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the game. There's gonna be some blowout games. Maybe she's not in the
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game when the games are tight. I don't know. I mean, I
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can't imagine a scenario. And that's one of the things where they go.
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You know, she's her college game better than her pro game, even though
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her pro game has you know, she's adjusting to the game, to the
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speed of the game, to the challenges of the game. But if playing
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at this international level in the Olympics is closer to the college game. She
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scored more points than anybody in college, why not take advantage of it even
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if she's only on the bench. But see, this is what we do
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now. We're so focused on labeling people based on race and based on well,
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we're going to give somebody an opportunity that maybe they wouldn't have gotten because
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we're going to push don't vote for the white nominees for the Emmys, don't
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give Caitlin Clark an opportunity to play on the team. What is the goal
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here? The goal should be let's get the best out there, Let's get
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the best involved, let's have the best win. Does your win at the
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Emmys mean anything? If you're John Lake Wizamo and they ignore the other nominees
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or other people that might have gotten nominated in order for you to get nominated,
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does your nomination mean anything? Are you taking that win and going look
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at what I did. Here's my participation trophy that I've kind of forced my
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way into making it an Emmy nomination or an Oscar nomination or whatever it is.
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So again, it's two stories that are different, but there's a similar
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thing that's going on there, and there's a similar pattern, and it's going
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to in some way play out in this year's election. We're seeing right now
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more of the Biden camp, more of the Trump camp really trying to court
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Hispanic voters especially. There's a change there's a shift that's happened in Hispanic voters,
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there's a shift that's happened in Black voters in America, and there's a
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fight for women as a fight now for women, as it feels like right
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All right, if you got summer travel plans, maybe they're already underway.
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It seems like my social media feeds are full of people that have already had
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epic vacations. If you're the kind of person who travels and when they get
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to their destination they unpack their clothes and put them in the dresser, you
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might want to rethink it. At least according to some experts. They say
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you might be putting yourself at more risk for bedbugs. According to at least
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one doctor, doctor Jason Singh of Virginia based doctor and He's got a TikTok
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account where he explains to people some of the dangers of putting your clothes in
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dressers. He basically says that hotels, especially those made of wood or have
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joints and crevices are at risk for bedbug infestations. He suggests using the claws
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that are just leaving your clothes in your suitcase. He says, I recommend
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to utilize hotel closets or hanging spaces to store your clothes or just pull your
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clothes straight out of the suitcase. That's the direct quote there, just saying
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what he said a slightly different way. But he urges you to think twice
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about using those dressers because you might bring home more than just some souvenirs or
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a T shirt that says what beats you went too? Or whatever. All
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right, So this is one of those subjects that I think this is kind
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of like the self driving cars the next topic, not the bed bugs.
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Where I can see all of the wonderful benefits of the self driving cars,
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I also see the concerns that come with the self driving cars. I think
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if everyone was forced to use self driving cars and there was no benefit of
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people being able to, you know, drive their own car their own way,
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I can see some pluses to it, and I can see some minuses
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to it. The pluses would just be if if all of the cars were
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self driving. We might be in that position where you know, we're kind
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of able to just nap in the car. That would be great. The
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concerns, obviously, are, you know, can the government shut your car
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down? Can the car companies shut your car down? Can some sort of
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you know, viral attack cause all of the cars to drive and slam into
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one another and one giant mess. I just saw that in a movie.
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I won't tell you which one case you're gonna watch it, but it had
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Julia Roberts in it, So I get it. I get both sides of
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that particular case. I understand there are some people that are concerned more about
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the government shutting them down or keeping you from going places, and I get
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that. I also think at the other side, where you say, you
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know, maybe you only need one family car. It can take you to
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work and drop you off and come back and get your spouse and take them
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to work, and you know, you just it shuttles you around. If
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that's what it's going to do, if that's the point that it's going to
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get to, and I don't know that we're going to get there. Now,
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here's this next topic that it relates to, also to artificial intelligence.
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As researchers are trying to put AI into a means of understanding what animals are
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communicating. Scientists at the University of Michigan are developing methods to identify whether a
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dog's bark is communicating playfulness or aggression. According to Rada Melicasia, I didn't
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get that right at all. There's so much we don't know yet about the
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animals that the world that we share the world with. And this is the
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professor of Computer Science Engineering director at University of Michigan's AI Lab. It says,
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advances and AI can be used to revolutionize our understanding of animal communication,
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and our findings suggest that we may not have to start from scratch. We
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know that we've had this kind of thing before with certain you know mammals in
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the sea. You know they listen to whales and they say, oh,
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this is what the whales trying to communicate. This is what this dolphin is
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trying to communicate. Flipper is saying that little Johnny's in danger or whatever.
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I like the idea of being able to understand what animals are communicating. I
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do that sounds great? How much do we want someone to be able to
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use AI to tell us that the animals are really telling us this, and
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then they don't know it's AI. How does it know that the you know,
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spotted owl tortoise is trying to tell us that this is my home.
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Don't build here. You know, is there a spot at owl tortoise?
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I don't know. I think I made that animal up. But my point
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is, at what point could that information be used as a manipulated way?
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And I know this comes back to the whole We got to be able to
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trust certain things. We got to be able to trust media, you got
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to be able to trust medicine. You got to be able to trust science.
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And if you don't, then this kind of thing could be used against
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you. That's all I'm trying to say. That'll do it for this Tuesday
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