Latest / Lately with Lexi / 29. Why Helping Less Is the Most Loving Thing You Can Do
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Human love is a business relationship.
- 0:02SPEAKER_00: It says, I will love you if you do this and I will not if you don't.
- 0:07Be the version of yourself that I'm comfortable with and I will
- 0:10love you easily.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: Deviate from it and I will make loving you hard.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: That's human love for you.
- 0:15Divine love,
- 0:16on the other hand,
- 0:17what in Sanskrit we call prima,
- 0:19is like the sun.
- 0:21SPEAKER_00: The sun doesn't decide who deserves light today.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: It shines on all of creation.
- 0:27And today we're going to explore this deeper and dive into how
- 0:31we can move beyond
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: human love and into divine love.
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to Lately with Lexi,
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: where I help wellness brands grow and spiritual seekers evolve.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: Every episode explores spiritual wisdom,
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: business building,
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: or personal reflections from my life.
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- 0:49SPEAKER_00: and navigating as a yogi,
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: business consultant,
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: healer,
- 0:53SPEAKER_00: and entrepreneur.
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- 0:57SPEAKER_00: Now let's get into it.
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: Most of us are practicing human love and calling it unconditional.
- 1:03And the gap between those two things is where so much of our
- 1:07suffering lives
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: because even when we consciously know this,
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: we forget.
- 1:12Now,
- 1:13I believe that it is all of our job to remember,
- 1:16remember our true nature of divine love.
- 1:20And we have to choose this remembering over and over again
- 1:23until it becomes our
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: default way of thinking,
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: being,
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: and operating.
- 1:27One of my teachers,
- 1:28Srimanti,
- 1:29says something that stopped me the first time I heard it.
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: She said, all events are neutral until perspective is applied.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: Here's what that means in practice.
- 1:39SPEAKER_00: Whenever we meet someone,
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: almost immediately,
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: we begin to build a version of them inside of our own mind,
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: a version based on our past experience,
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: our desires,
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: our fears,
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: our needs,
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: any unexamined assumptions about what we expect this person to be.
- 1:56And then we respond to that version,
- 1:59the one that we made up,
- 2:00the one that we built.
- 2:01And it's not necessarily the version of the person who's
- 2:05actually standing right in front of us.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: And when this other person doesn't match the construct that we created,
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: we feel something,
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: sometimes disappointment,
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: frustration,
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: anger,
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: and then we blame them for it.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: But it was never theirs in the first place.
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: The projection was always ours to own.
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: Carl Jung said,
- 2:24everything that irritates us about others can actually lead us
- 2:28to a deeper
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: understanding of ourselves.
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: He called this shadow projection,
- 2:33SPEAKER_00: the parts of ourselves we haven't integrated,
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: the unexamined fears,
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: the unhealed wounds.
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: And we often see them way more clearly in other people than in ourselves.
- 2:43SPEAKER_00: Rumi echoed what A Course in Miracles teaches and put it this way,
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: your task is not to seek for love,
- 2:50but merely to seek and find all of the barriers within yourself
- 2:54that you have built
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: against that love.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: We spend so much energy looking for love outside of ourselves,
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: in someone else's behavior,
- 3:02SPEAKER_00: in their actions,
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: in another person's approval,
- 3:05or even in someone's willingness to show up in the way that we
- 3:09need them to.
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: Rumi is telling us to turn our focus around.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: The barriers to love aren't in the other person.
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: They're always within us.
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: Think about a time that you were right in an argument with your partner.
- 3:23You can have 10 friends validating every word of your
- 3:26perspective and still be
- 3:28powerless because the only mechanism you can ever actually
- 3:33shift is within your own
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: being.
- 3:35And when you are energetically entangled with someone and
- 3:38projecting blame onto
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: them,
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: that isn't their work.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: It is yours.
- 3:43When I stopped trying to rearrange or control my partner's life
- 3:48to make me more
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: comfortable,
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: when I turn the gaze inward instead,
- 3:52that personal responsibility gives me all of the power to
- 3:56change my relationship to
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: how I respond.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: That is the Jedi move.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: Once you understand that,
- 4:03you're ready to look at two very different operating systems
- 4:07love can run on,
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: human love and divine love that I mentioned earlier.
- 4:12Understanding and applying the differences between these two
- 4:15things are what help
- 4:16us let go of trying to control our relationships and create
- 4:20space for the divine to
- 4:22SPEAKER_00: work through us and your partner.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: By nature, human love is transactional.
- 4:27SPEAKER_00: It is not always conscious, not always cruel, but it has terms.
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: Human love says,
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: I will love you if you make financially sound decisions,
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: or I will love you if you choose the path that I would choose for you.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: It says, I will love you if you need me in the way that I need you.
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: And underneath these hidden terms is fear.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Fear that if someone doesn't perform correctly, we feel threatened.
- 4:53Now the perspective in Kundalini Yoga says that the highest
- 4:57form of yoga is relationship.
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: That is the
- 5:00the biggest opportunity that all of us have in our lives to
- 5:04truly meet the divine.
- 5:06And I think it's because relationships can be very triggering
- 5:09and challenging.
- 5:10And it's something that most of us were not taught how to
- 5:13navigate consciously.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: And I want to be real with you guys.
- 5:17SPEAKER_00: My partner and I have navigated a lot of uncertainty together,
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: multiple moves across the country to different countries,
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: losing jobs,
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: businesses that started and closed.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: And let me tell you, fear gets very creative in that kind of terrain.
- 5:33At times,
- 5:33fear can even start to look a whole lot like love,
- 5:36or so we think.
- 5:37We might start giving unsolicited advice or suggestions from
- 5:42this place of,
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: well,
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: I'm just trying to support you.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: I just want to help.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: I want what's best for you.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: But instead of giving the other person the own
- 5:49time and space for them to truly tap into their heart and what
- 5:53the divine wants of
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: them were intervening.
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: Now,
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: listen,
- 5:56this is a lifelong lesson for me and probably all of us that
- 6:00trying to help someone
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: without being asked,
- 6:03SPEAKER_00: it's not helping.
- 6:04It communicates something at a frequency level beneath all of
- 6:08the good intentions.
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: It says, I don't trust what's working through you.
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: And then what happens?
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: Well, our partner becomes paralyzed.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: They're more dependent on our opinion.
- 6:19Maybe they pull away entirely and they're not trusting
- 6:22themselves anymore.
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: The more responsibility that you take for somebody else's path,
- 6:27the more you deprive them of the self-trust that they need in
- 6:31order to walk through
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: whatever it is that they're navigating.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: The goal is to love in a way where the other person feels free.
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: So ask yourself, how often does your love create freedom in your partner?
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: Or does it create obligation,
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: a quiet pressure to be a certain way,
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: to make certain choices,
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: or to perform in a direction that makes you more comfortable?
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: Divine love doesn't require performance.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have terms.
- 6:59It sees the divine already moving through the other person
- 7:03fully and completely.
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: Now this leads us to bhakti and prima.
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: These are not concepts that I hold intellectually.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: They're a practice that I return to,
- 7:13SPEAKER_00: that we all have to return to,
- 7:15especially in the moments when fear is loud or judgment is
- 7:19strong or control is
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: something we're wanting to grasp for a sense of
- 7:24SPEAKER_00: They're a practice I return to,
- 7:26especially in the moments when fear is loud and the urge to
- 7:30control is strong.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: Let me share this teaching with you,
- 7:33and then I want to share what it looks like inside of a real
- 7:36relationship.
- 7:37So bhakti is often translated as devotion,
- 7:41but it's so much more than that.
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: Bhakti is an orientation of the heart towards the sacred in all of life.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: It's not religious in a dogmatic sense,
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: but a recognition that the divine is not separate from life.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: It is moving through all of life,
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: through every person,
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: every situation,
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: even the ones that make no sense to you,
- 8:02SPEAKER_00: even in the ones that scare you.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: And when you relate to someone through bhakti,
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: you are recognizing God in them,
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: not the version of them that you need them to be.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: The one navigating their own path,
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: making their own choices,
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: living their own unfolding as God would have it be.
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: Then we have prima.
- 8:21Prima is the love that flows from that recognition,
- 8:25from bhakti,
- 8:26that divine love.
- 8:27It's love that doesn't require the other person to be anything
- 8:31other than what they
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: are right now.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: Because Prema sees the divine that's already present in them.
- 8:37And here's what this has looked like for me and my partner for
- 8:40almost five years.
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: There are moments around finances,
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: our careers,
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: our families,
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: building our unconventional life together.
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: where fear will come in and want to take over.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: We start to intellectualize or overanalyze our partner.
- 8:55SPEAKER_00: We offer unsolicited advice.
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: We think out of love, but it's often actually out of fear.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: Suggestions start pouring out of us on autopilot.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: Have you thought of this?
- 9:05SPEAKER_00: Have you tried this?
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: What about this?
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: Sound familiar?
- 9:08The problem here is that these suggestions aren't leaving room
- 9:13for the divine to
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: work through them.
- 9:15SPEAKER_00: Our prayer must become, I release you to your life.
- 9:19And I trust the divine is working through you far greater than
- 9:24I could ever know how.
- 9:25SPEAKER_00: Now, releasing someone is not abandoning them.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: It is saying, I trust the sacred that is working through you.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: I trust that your unfolding is divine.
- 9:35SPEAKER_00: This is what love looks like when it's not afraid.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: And here's the thing that brings all of this together,
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: because none of this is actually about the other person.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: It never was.
- 9:45The real work,
- 9:46the only work you ever truly have full access to is happening
- 9:51within yourself.
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: Listen, y'all, the spiritual path is a solo journey.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: There's no way around it.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: It is us at the end of the road alone.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: Okay, a little morbid, I know, but here's the beauty in it.
- 10:04We do not need our partners,
- 10:06our families,
- 10:06our closest friends to be on the same path as us.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: They don't have to be at the same stage as us.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: They don't have to be making the same choices as us.
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: And they don't even need to self-realize with us.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: Ram Dass said the spiritual journey is individual and highly personal.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: It can't be organized or regulated.
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: It isn't true that everyone should follow one path.
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: Listen to your own truth.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: And listen,
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: no one is coming to do this work for you,
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: not your partner,
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: not your teacher,
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: not your community.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: The path goes inward.
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: And that is where the real work is.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: That is where freedom lies.
- 10:43It's always within ourselves,
- 10:45regardless of the relationships we're in and
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: the life experiences we are having,
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: the opportunity,
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: no matter what is going on externally,
- 10:54is to come back inside of ourselves and cultivate that inner
- 10:58connection to
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: divinity,
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: to experience that remembering so that we can share that with the world.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: And here's the thing,
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: when you are entangled with someone energetically,
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: measuring your peace by their choices,
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: projecting blame,
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: trying to manage their path,
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: you are not in your own energy.
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: You're living in theirs.
- 11:19And what looks like love from the outside is often a way of
- 11:22avoiding the one
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: relationship you have complete and total access to,
- 11:27SPEAKER_00: the one with yourself and God.
- 11:30Being in right relationship with others begins with being in
- 11:34right relationship with yourself.
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: When you become the frequency of love,
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: not just as a concept but in your body,
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: your nervous system and the way you hold yourself in a room,
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: you stop needing others to perform love back at you.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: you begin to effortlessly hold more space.
- 11:51You have greater capacity and you affect the field in a way
- 11:54that actually opens
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: other people up,
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: not by pushing,
- 11:57SPEAKER_00: not by correcting,
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: but just by being.
- 12:00The solution always resides within your own being,
- 12:03no matter how right you are.
- 12:05SPEAKER_00: That is the Jedi move.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: Turning inward instead of rearranging the external,
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: taking radical responsibility for your own inner experience,
- 12:15releasing others to their own lives and trusting the divine is
- 12:19moving through them.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: And this teaching isn't a one-time realization, it's a practice.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: And like many of our yogic practices, it starts with awareness.
- 12:30SPEAKER_00: So start here.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: Look at the relationships in your life where there's friction,
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: where something feels hard,
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: stuck,
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: or charged,
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: and ask yourself,
- 12:38SPEAKER_00: where are you inserting yourself into someone else's path?
- 12:42SPEAKER_00: And what fear is underneath that impulse?
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: Because I promise you, there is almost always fear underneath it.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: We may think, well, if I don't intervene, something will go wrong.
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: If I let go, I lose control.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: If I trust them completely, what does that mean for my role?
- 12:58SPEAKER_00: Give yourself space to let this fear be visible.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: Notice when your peace depends on another person's choice,
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: when your inner state rises and falls based on what they do or don't do.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: That is the signal.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: Not a signal that they're doing something wrong,
- 13:14SPEAKER_00: a signal that you have drifted from your own center.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: That is the invitation to come back home to yourself.
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: When you are rooted in divine love,
- 13:23you stop needing the people around you to perform a certain way
- 13:27for you to feel
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: okay.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: You can create more beauty.
- 13:30You affect the field in a way that no amount of advice or
- 13:34correction ever could.
- 13:36That is prima and bhakti in practice,
- 13:39being in loving trust,
- 13:41surrender,
- 13:42and devotion to God.
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: And in my opinion, that is the most important work that we will ever do.
- 13:48SPEAKER_00: So ask yourself, where can I lean into divine love?
- 13:52What can I let go of within another person whom I love so that
- 13:57they can access the
- 13:58SPEAKER_00: divine and have that shine through them?
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for listening to Lately with Lexi.
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