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Brett Keane Live | Was Anton LaVey an Atheist | Is Satan Devil Real? · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  So where did all this energy and space come from?
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  The answer was found after decades of work by scientists.
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  Space and energy was spontaneously created in an
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  event we now call. The Big Bang at the.
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  Moment of The Big Bang. An entire universe full of
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  energy came into existence and within space it all inflated
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  just like a balloon being blown up.
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  So where did all this energy space come from?
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  How does an entire universe full of energy, the awesome vastness
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  of space, and everything in it simply appear out of nothing?
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  The Sun, This is where. God comes back into the picture,
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  the. Soldiers, don't give yourselves
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  the brutes. Men who despise you and slave
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  you will regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to
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  think and what to feel. Who drill you, diet you, treat
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  you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder.
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  Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men, machine men with
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  machine minds and machine hearts.
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  You are not machines. You are not cattle.
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  You are men. You have the love of humanity in
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  your hearts. You don't hate only the unloved.
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  Hate the unloved and the unnatural.
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  Soldiers don't fight for slavery.
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  Fight for liberty in. The 17th chapter.
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  Of Saint Lucas is written, The Kingdom of God is within man.
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  Not one man, nor a group of men, but in all men.
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  In you, you the people have the power, the power to create
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  machines, the power to create happiness.
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  You, the people have the power to make this life free and
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  beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure.
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  Then in the name of democracy, there are shoes.
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  That power. Let us all unite.
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  Let us fight for a new world, decent world that will give men
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  a chance to work, that will give you the future and old age of
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  security. Like the promise of these
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  things, brutes have risen to power, but they lie.
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  They do not fulfill that promise.
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  They never will. Dictators free themselves, but
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  they enslave the people. Now let us fight to fulfill that
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  promise. Let us fight to free the world,
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  to do away with national barriers, to do away with grief,
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  with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of
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  reason, the world where science and progress will lead to all
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  men's happiness. Soldiers, in the name of
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  democracy, let us all unite. Yo, fucking asshole.
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  You're a fucking asshole. You're a fucking asshole.
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  Listen very carefully to the exact language that I use.
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  I have yet to hear a convincing moral or legal argument as to
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  why possession of child pornography should be illegal.
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  The argument that I was making. And I've made this argument a
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  bunch of times, and I've addressed this poorly made
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  argument a bunch of times here. Why is the possession of child
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  pornography immoral? People are inconsistent in their
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  moral outrage at commodities, which hurt people when they're
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  produced so but then they're really, really quick to denounce
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  child. Now you'll never be able to find
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  a clip of me saying that. I think it's good to have child.
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  Porn Should consuming child porn be legal?
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  Yes, 100% please, please. Right now, uncook your dumb shit
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  libcut fucking SJW brains and recognize this empirically
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  correct fact that I am about to spit.
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  It is possible for an adult and a child to have a sexual
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  relationship and for it to have positive outcomes on the child
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  as well. This.
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  Is the Gayborhood and you are not welcome.
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  That's why I need to be here. You need Jesus, ma'am.
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  He can save you. He can give you a new heart.
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  God can give you a new heart so that you love what God loves.
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  No, that's irrational. So you're saying that you would
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  like a gentlemanly man, somebody who courts you, takes you on a
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  date, all of these sorts of things?
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  Absolutely. I'm a little bit in two minds
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  here because I can hear what you're saying, but then I can
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  see that you're dressed as a cat.
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  I'm a dog and I'm a dog. Call yourself a dog wolf.
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  Yes. Do you think that that might be
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  a deterrent for a man who is more traditional if you're
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  dressing like a dog? No, I don't.
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  So when you look at a relationship, are you looking at
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  like a pet owner type relationship or like two dogs in
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  in the relationship or what? What's what's your ideal?
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  A partner who loves and respects me and sees me as an equal that
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  I am. But you see yourself as an
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  actual dog, right? You said you'd like to go play
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  fetch. Woof.
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  Yes. So how does that tie into your
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  relationship? Like what are you looking for if
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  if you're a dog, I'm looking for somebody to throw me a ball.
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  And then? Also say oh hey I I.
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  Appreciate you, you know. The pundit was wrong.
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  I would rather be grabbed by the pussy than have a pussy for
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  president and go you, go you, go you.
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  And you're happy with that language.
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  I'm very happy with that language.
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  Look, none of us are that polite behind closed doors.
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  My girlfriends have ruder language.
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  Real men have ruder language. The gentleman clapping is a real
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  man. Obviously he would have ruder
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  language. Pussy.
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  I'm not offended by the He's no longer in the locker room.
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  He's in the Oval Office. Sure, and that was a private
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  conversation eight years ago. Before he was running, whilst
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  Clinton was in the Oval Office, of course Monica Lewinsky was on
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  her knees with Hillary stood right by her.
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  So I don't know if you're gonna say that's any better, sweetie,
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  'cause I don't think it is, She's not president.
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  I'm talking about the current president election, yes, but
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  when Bill Clinton was. Not talking about the past.
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  I'm talking about the future. And eight years ago, before
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  Donald Trump even ran, he used the word pussy.
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  I'm not offended. You are.
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  You deal with your or any of you have no issues.
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  I'm just curious, is any part of you remotely concerned about the
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  nature of no. You know, what we needed in
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  America was someone that was going to have a strong lead, who
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  was going to stand up for white people as well as black people
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  in America, who was going to stand up for bringing jobs back,
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  for allowing Americans to have their weapons, and for allowing
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  the Supreme Court to be a conservative Supreme Court.
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  No one here can really understand that which as well as
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  the pollsters were wrong, while you guys were wrong.
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  While state broadcasters were wrong.
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  And every other commentator and every other pundit was wrong.
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  I want to say thank you to the fans by telling you a secret
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  that I've been keeping from you for the last two years, which is
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  that Trump won and and I can finally say fuck Joe Biden Trump
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  2024, bitches, Let's go. Holy shit.
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  That. Was funny.
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  That was funny. I'm not going to lie.
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  Hey, Taylor Swift is hot as shit.
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  I I wouldn't say no to a go to roll in the hay with her,
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  whether she's woke or not. No, I hear you.
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  I hear you. Think you might be able to wake
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  her up, though. For real.
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  I wouldn't care. There you go.
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  So how's your day been, man? Wet had to go out to take the
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  old lady to the doctor's office for an appointment today, and
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  then the rest of the day was pretty much, I don't know,
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  dealing with the stupidity and whatnot from a certain group of
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  people. I'm pretty sure you know who I'm
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  talking about. Looks like we have some.
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  People out there who are happy to see it.
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  Yeah, yeah, definitely happy to see them too.
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  I see plenty of people who are there.
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  Hi, Nita. Now the folks out there do
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  realize there is a link out there, especially pinned up in
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  the blue. If you'd like to come in.
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  Especially Mr. Metaller 666. He's pretty awesome.
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  Come on in if you like. Yeah.
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  All right. So I guess we could start this
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  off by me showing a screenshot of a comment that was given, and
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  then we'll see how that goes. Here we go.
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  This is something somebody sent me over on YouTube, they said.
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  Mr. Queen, you and Lucifer seem to be really obsessed with
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  Levay. Lucifer wants to steal him for
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  his little fuel group and gets a kick out of messing with the Cos
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  That would be the Church of Satan.
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  As if the Church of Satan cares. That's why we got over 50,000
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  views of their responses and comments, because we just they
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  just don't care. But here you go with you.
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  You claim to be a Christian, so why do you care about this?
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  Why are you even making it an issue?
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  Why are you making best buddies with a tall worshipper?
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  He's also a Nazi that wants to steal the works of Anton Lebay,
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  who happens to be a Jew. Do you prefer Anton Lavey over
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  Jesus Christ? It sure looks that way for some
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  very strange reason. You seem to want to believe that
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  Anton Lavey believed in the devil.
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  Very strange in your life and time digging up all this stuff.
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  Oh my goodness. You want to finish it out?
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  Dude, I'm laughing too hard. You going?
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  All right. Very strange to be spending your
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  life time digging up all this stuff that should be irrelevant
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  to any any real Christian. All right, let me bring up Mr.
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  Muttaler, since Lucifer's over there choking on his own spit.
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  From how stupid this comment is, why don't you tell me what you
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  think? Lack of getting.
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  A hold of himself. Sorry about joining in last time
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  without permission like a complete.
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  No, no, you're you're good. You're good.
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  You you handle things fine and whatnot, and you're so you're
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  all good. You don't need to apologize.
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  Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking, but yeah, in my
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  opinion, that's kind of funniest shit ever read.
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  I was like, wow, look at that. A great idiot.
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  Look at that. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're obsessed
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  with the Yeah, we're just ain't the dance over here.
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  Yeah. Somebody out there asked.
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  Is the Rapture happening soon? I don't know.
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  I haven't set my clock to it, but if I start hearing signs of
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  it, I'll make sure that I get you.
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  I'm thinking about starting a series of erotic novels called
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  Satan's Rapture, and the whole principle is where people will
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  just suddenly, like disappear and they literally leave their
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  clothes behind like parking lots and whatnot, all their personal
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  belongings. And it turns out that they're
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  all like becoming part of a Satanic cult.
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  Satanic cold is right back in the 19. 80s So Mr. Lucifer I've
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  what have I spent about two weeks talking about this and
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  this somehow is categorized as an obsession now.
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  Yeah, exactly. This is apparently an obsession.
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  But Cos members obsessively stalking me all over Facebook
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  and then, you know, also taking pictures of my son's school and
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  sending them to me as a threat and all sorts of crazy stuff
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  that's not an obsession. Me just making sure, me wanting
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  to know what the truth of the matter is, what Anton Holloway
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  actually wanted to actually, what he believed and what he
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  said, and understanding the philosophy, the espouse that
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  that's suddenly an obsession. Yeah, yeah.
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  But I'm going to ask you both a very important question here.
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  If it's true what they claim, that Anton Lavey was nothing
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  more than a showman, that Satan isn't real, that it's all for
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  shits and giggles, then why the hostility?
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  Why get triggered? Good question.
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  That is a good question. Like, how the hell what?
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  What do they really care if anybody wants to follow the same
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  guy and believe that it was seistic?
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  I mean, it's not affecting them. It's not hurting them.
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  I mean, I don't think it is. The only thing that would be
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  hurting them would be themselves if they're sitting there, you
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  know, saying something that isn't true.
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  And in all honesty, that would be in my opinion, the only
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  reason to get so hostile and aggressive.
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  You would own, you know, if it's true, you know that he wasn't an
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  atheist and you're or if he's true that he was an atheist.
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  I have to correct myself there. And he they're very set on that
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  and they actually believe that and they're comfortable in that.
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  Then what do they care what I say?
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  What do they care of the evidence that we put out there?
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  What do they care about Video clips of Anton Lavey saying that
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  he actually did believe in God because, well, if it's if it was
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  just him being a showman and being a clown, what do they
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  care? We got somebody out here called
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  Dean, Goldenberry says. Do you guys use magic?
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  It's up to you. If you guys want to respond to
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  that. That's obviously for you.
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  Well, is. It obvious.
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  Oh jeez, I don't know. I don't know.
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  Devin, what does my live monthly full moon live stream seem like
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  to you? I mean, do I scan in robes and
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  in an in front of an altered. Is there candles lit?
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  Are We Came in many times. What?
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  Not, Yeah. Well yeah, I've seen it many
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  times. Like there's there's like you
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  know, 3 rights in the high mass for fuck.
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  Sake. Yes, Dean, I'm.
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  I'm sorry, I'm being sarcastic. I know you're being genuine in
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  your question, and I'm sorry for the sarcasm, but yes, we
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  actually do practice magic. We actually do practice sorcery,
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  and we do study and practice occultism and understand things
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  that are not normally understood.
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  I'll throw this out there just to let the audience hear about
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  this. What is the difference between
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  the magic that you do and the magic?
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  Like, let's say somebody like Criss Angel who might watch all
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  of his shows as well as David Copperfield.
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  Difference. Well, there's what Criss Angel,
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  David Copperfield, Harry Houdini and many other stage magicians
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  did is not really called magic. They're not really called
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  magicians. We call them magicians, but
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  they're not really called magicians.
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  They're called illusionist and all it basically is it's a stage
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  illusion to make you think something is happening that's
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  not really happening. And it's called Illusionism.
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  And they're really good at what they do, and they're really good
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  at the tricks that they do. I mean, they can stick their
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  head in a guillotine, next thing you know.
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  You see, you could swear you just watch them get their head
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  cut off by a guillotine. And it turns out that they're
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  the ones who just dropped the blade.
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  And you didn't even see that one coming, you know?
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  Talking Louisburg, Thanks. Dad.
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  Oh no. Criss Angel is not using
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  witchcraft or anything like that.
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  He's just a stage magician. He is an illusionist.
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  Yeah, I've never heard Criss Angel claim that he was using
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  some kind of supernatural powers or ability, he claims.
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  That he In some of the videos of Criss Angel, you can actually
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  see how the trick is being done if you pay attention.
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  There's one where he lays on a spiked fence and then he
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  suddenly impales down on it. Well, if you pay attention to
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  the spikes that come through them, they don't come straight
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  out. They fold up.
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  So you know, it happened so quick.
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  It happens very, very quickly. Now here's the interesting
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  thing. Stage magic or illusionism can
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  actually be used as a low level form of sorcery to for
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  self-defense purposes or whatnot.
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  I mean, all you have to know do is know what you're doing with
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  it, and anything that people can explain would essentially be the
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  equal of magic and sorcery. All right, so Terrence asked me
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  out here, Brett, do you think Jesus, miracles, water walking,
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  etcetera, were legit or fictional?
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  I believe that all the things that it claims in the Bible that
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  Jesus did, including the resurrection, was absolutely
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  true. And as far as Dean Goldenberry
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  saying I'm a Satanist, no. But I will explain why it is
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  that I took this very seriously. I was talking to some people on
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  Twitter and then I posted a comment stating that the Church
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  of Satan is another denomination or sect of Satanism, that
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  there's many different groups out there like Paganism.
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  It's kind of an umbrella term. If you guys disagree with me,
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  fine. But what they claimed was the
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  founder of the Anton Levay was the founder and that he didn't
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  actually believe in the devil. Well, I found this interesting
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  because I always assumed if you're into Satanism, then you
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  must do some form of Satan, right.
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  So this fella right here, Mr. Lucifer, although none of them
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  were willing to talk to me, he actually said, I'll talk to you
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  Brett, I'll tell you what were our views are and our ideas, and
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  I really appreciated it. And I've enjoyed his presence
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  and his friends ever since. Yep, right here.
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  We have multiple STS members in the comments section that we
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  have our Grand R Con Kane Blackbar.
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  He's the second in command of STS.
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  We have numerous other people in there.
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  If they want to identify themselves as STS members, they
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  are more than welcome to, but I'm not going to sit here and
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  call them out on it. But yeah, we have multiple STS
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  members here. And what's funny is I don't see
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  any church state members here. Yeah, same here.
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  I'm. I would be expecting them to
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  talk shit, going like, oh, you pose, you you pose.
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  There's the same answer. Levy is he's antic.
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  Well, we're about 21 minutes in. Would you like me to play the
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  clip that was sent to me by these folks?
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  OK, well, let's first give some context here before we go ahead
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  and play this, because I want people to see this clip.
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  I want people to understand what Anton Levy is saying and it he's
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  asked a very poignant question about whether or not he believes
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  in Jesus Christ and God and he says no, I do not.
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  Now, before anybody gets into this, I want people to think
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  about this. Just because a person does not
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  believe in one form of deity or not, that does not make them an
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  atheist. He says no, I don't believe in
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  Jesus Christ and God. He doesn't say I am an atheist
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  and I want people to pay attention to that.
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  So that's. True and technically a quote
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  from a atheist that used to be alive that was very popular
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  Christopher Hitchens. He said that everybody some form
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  of atheist anyway, because if you only accept one form of God,
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  but you say all the other ones are not true, then in that way
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  you find common ground with an atheist.
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  It's up to you if you want to agree with that, acknowledge you
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  or whatever. But that's what he said.
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  So I also want a. Good statement.
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  Right there. I also want to put this forth
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  too. I have done countless videos and
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  I've done countless shows with Mr. Lucifer here showing Levay,
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  stating that he believed in God, believed that Jesus Christ
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  actually existed, believed in an actual devil.
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  This clip, I got to be honest with you.
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  It does miss me a bit, but we're going to let these guys because
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  they're much more educated in this particular belief system
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  than myself, and perhaps they can give an explanation for it.
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  Let's see, where is the clip? Here we go.
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  Do you? Believe in God.
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  Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Now, irrevocably not, I believe
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  that the godhead resides within oneself.
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  I believe that man creates gods in accordance with his own
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  needs, and if he doesn't, someone else will create them
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  for him. Who or what is Satan to you?
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  Satan is the essence of that which dwells within myself.
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  Would you explicitate this? Satan is.
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  The pioneer, the inventor Prometheus, Satan has always
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  been the scapegoat. The other, as Thomas saw, as the
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  psychiatrist calls him, he has always been the opposition to
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  what has been established at the time, the counterbalance that
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  creates change, that creates evolution, that sets the climate
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  socially for modification. Because without this so-called
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  evil, there could be no change. OK, that's a very telling clip.
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  I mean, he's asked a question point blank.
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  Do you believe in God? Do you believe in Jesus?
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  And he states quite clearly, no, I do not.
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  I believe that the Godhead exists within man.
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  I believe that man creates his own gods and deities, and this
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  is perfectly in line. He says this right in the
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  Satanic Bible as well. And I believe I've shown you
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  this, Brett, that he says it right in the Satanic Bible and
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  at the head of the same chapter. You know, let's I just saw that
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  Devin pulled out The Satanic Bible.
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  God open up the chapter of God Wanted dead or Alive.
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  God. OK, can you read the first
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  paragraph for us please, Devin? It is all popular misconception
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  that the Satanist does not believe in God.
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  The concept of God as inner interpreted by man has been so
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  varied throughout the ages that the Satanist simply accepts the
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  definition which suits him best. Man has always created God
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  created his God rather than his God created him.
• 26:10
  God is to some being to others terrifying to the Satanist.
• 26:18
  OK, that word is benign, by the way.
• 26:20
  Yeah, sorry. Yep, not a problem.
• 26:25
  So what we are seeing here, he flat out says in this opening
• 26:32
  statement in the Satanic Bible, the exact same thing that he
• 26:35
  says in that clip, that gods are created by us or what we call
• 26:41
  egregore or tolka. This does not negate their
• 26:45
  reality at all. It actually enhances their
• 26:50
  reality by personalizing them to us.
• 26:53
  And you know, we can. They can take on many different
• 26:58
  forms. And what an for those people who
• 27:01
  may not know what an egregore is, who's watching right now.
• 27:05
  And egregore is what's called a living thought form and what a
• 27:10
  living thought form is. It's sort of like when a child
• 27:16
  has an imaginary friend, and that imaginary friend to them is
• 27:20
  completely real. It is.
• 27:22
  It works independently of them. It can respond to them and
• 27:26
  interact with that child's immediate surroundings.
• 27:30
  Now take that same imaginary friend, and suddenly it does
• 27:33
  something around that child that the parent sees that the parent
• 27:37
  takes note of. Now suddenly that parent is also
• 27:41
  believing that this imaginary friend is more than just simply
• 27:45
  imaginary, that there is something more going on there.
• 27:49
  Now you expand that out to over 1/3 of the human population, and
• 27:54
  suddenly you have a being that can manipulate and do many
• 27:59
  different things. Does this mean that this beings
• 28:02
  did not create man? No.
• 28:04
  What's to say that enough humans believe in this being?
• 28:08
  Creating his lore and his back to history does not give him
• 28:12
  license to go back in time to the beginning of creation and go
• 28:17
  into the void and cause what we would call The Big Bang,
• 28:21
  therefore creating existence and therefore enacting the very
• 28:27
  events of Genesis. There's nothing that says it
• 28:30
  couldn't. All that we can say and all
• 28:33
  atheists can prove. And I believe you just recently
• 28:36
  posted an article, Brett, that talks about this is how
• 28:41
  scientists can only go back so far to The Big Bang and they
• 28:44
  can't explain anything beyond it.
• 28:46
  But religion can. I think that's pretty good
• 28:52
  explanation. You and I have seen a lot of
• 28:54
  clips where he's made it clear that he loves believe in this
• 28:58
  and he believes in that and magic and supernatural.
• 29:02
  So do you. Is it possible that he might
• 29:04
  have been having a bad day? He seemed cranky in that clip.
• 29:08
  Well, I don't know. I mean, I that's a very rare
• 29:12
  clip. It's not one that's commonly
• 29:14
  seen. You do have to look for it a
• 29:16
  little bit. It is on the Church Satan's
• 29:18
  YouTube channel, so it's right there.
• 29:21
  Anybody can watch it. I will say that we do have at
• 29:26
  least one former Church Satan member in the comments who could
• 29:30
  probably explain this clip far better than me.
• 29:34
  And he is the Archon of STS. He is our third in command and
• 29:39
  he is a former member of the Church Satan.
• 29:42
  He is a former member of the temple of the Vampire.
• 29:45
  And so this is all stuff that he knows very in detail and very in
• 29:51
  depth. So if he wants to add in his
• 29:56
  comment and his analogy of it, I'll let him do that.
• 30:00
  But As for whether or not Anton Lavey was having a bad day, in
• 30:04
  that moment, he definitely seems like he's a little bit cranky.
• 30:08
  Yeah, it looks like he's not in the mood to do an interview.
• 30:13
  Now you guys do agree that later on in his life he started
• 30:17
  wanting to get away from doing interviews and being public.
• 30:21
  He seemed like he felt like it was an irritation for him.
• 30:25
  He really started hating the general public.
• 30:29
  He makes this. I wouldn't say he exactly hated
• 30:32
  being a general public, but in Speak of the Devil, the Canon of
• 30:38
  Anton Lavey, which was his the final documentary.
• 30:42
  I think I sent you the link to it earlier today, Brett.
• 30:45
  He made it very clear that he preferred the company of the
• 30:49
  mannequins in his basement than he did of most human out there.
• 30:55
  He didn't like leaving his house as much.
• 31:00
  Mr. Metaller, I don't know if you realize this, but if you
• 31:04
  leave your mic open while your friend is talking, it's going to
• 31:07
  cause some feedback on him. So you might want to mute
• 31:11
  whenever someone else is talking.
• 31:13
  Love having you here? No thing.
• 31:15
  Yep. No.
• 31:18
  Problem. So do you also think, if you
• 31:21
  don't mind me asking, it seems like especially during the
• 31:24
  Satanic panic, every time some person who labeled themselves
• 31:29
  Satanist went out and did a horrific act, it always seemed
• 31:32
  to come back on his family. Him and his kids had to
• 31:36
  constantly refute or debunk this non-stop and.
• 31:40
  Non-stop. Not only did it, not only did
• 31:44
  they have to refute it, they had to deal with people coming to
• 31:48
  their house and trying to kick in their door, trying to do all
• 31:52
  sorts of crazy things. Levay eventually had to put a
• 31:56
  security fence around the front of the Black House and he put up
• 32:00
  a very blatant and obvious security camera.
• 32:03
  The final You know, when you look at later pictures of the
• 32:07
  Black House, you can actually see this, that he had to be very
• 32:11
  security conscious and he owned numerous guns to protect his
• 32:17
  family because you got crazy Christians who were being driven
• 32:23
  nuts by the whole Satanic Panic era that were literally trying
• 32:27
  to kill him. And we see these types of people
• 32:31
  even today. We saw somebody tried to set the
• 32:34
  Satanic Temple's house on fire. We saw threats get intercepted
• 32:40
  by the FBI against the Satanic Temple.
• 32:42
  We saw the the Georgia Guide stones get demolitioned.
• 32:47
  They were only 15 miles away from me, from where I live right
• 32:51
  now, and they got demolition and cleared out within day.
• 32:57
  I saw the video of that. That was crazy.
• 33:01
  We've seen things all throughout the 70s, all the way to the
• 33:04
  early 90s, where we had Christians as well as people who
• 33:08
  labeled themselves Satanists. They would end up going to court
• 33:11
  for committing crimes from trying to blow up an abortion
• 33:14
  clinic or trying to do a sacrifice.
• 33:18
  And then what they would do is when they got into court, they
• 33:20
  would claim that Will told me to do it, or God told me to do it.
• 33:24
  And because of that kind of nonsense, they ended up coming
• 33:27
  up with this new set up for lawyers where if you're mentally
• 33:30
  ill, you don't pay for the crime, you just go get a nice
• 33:33
  hot and a cot and a mental asylum for.
• 33:36
  Well, nowadays, nowadays, most criminals like that, they don't
• 33:40
  go to mental asylums. I know that the Church Satan is
• 33:45
  trying to throw my past out there and I did serve some time
• 33:50
  in jail for in, you know, various issues involving my
• 33:56
  children. And I had served time and it was
• 34:02
  a very sad instance. But I was on the exact same
• 34:05
  block due to the wording in the charges that were levelled
• 34:10
  against me. I was.
• 34:12
  I spent six months on the exact same block where they would put
• 34:15
  the mental inmates and we, you know, we had all sorts of
• 34:22
  different guys. And there was a, there was an
• 34:24
  old man, I remember that was brought in with Renfield
• 34:27
  syndrome. You know what that is?
• 34:32
  Does anybody here know what Renfield Syndrome is?
• 34:35
  You'll probably have to explain it.
• 34:37
  There's so many different conditions and disorders
• 34:39
  nowadays it's hard to keep up. Well, Renfield syndrome derives
• 34:45
  it's name from the story Dracula.
• 34:49
  Renfield who was the first guy who went to go see Dracula who
• 34:56
  was replaced by Jonathan Harker. When he got back Renfield had
• 35:00
  gone insane. He was eating bugs and all this
• 35:03
  other stuff and he he was a servant of Dracula at that point
• 35:10
  and he resided in the mental asylum there that some of the
• 35:14
  other people who were in the the vampire hunting crew that would
• 35:20
  go and that they would work there.
• 35:24
  And so Renfield syndrome describes a similar syndrome.
• 35:28
  Now of course this guy couldn't eat bugs while he was inside.
• 35:32
  They those cells are kept very clean.
• 35:36
  But no one wanted to go into the bubble that he was in because,
• 35:40
  well, the stench of all the things that he would do in his
• 35:43
  cell was just so horrendous. And my cell, the cell that I was
• 35:47
  in, was on 2nd floor overlooking the bubble and I had a perfect
• 35:52
  view right into the cell. And I can tell you I saw things
• 35:54
  that I did not want to see and this guy was just he was really
• 35:58
  mentally sick And so yeah, they don't send them to the funny
• 36:04
  farm anymore. I wish that they did.
• 36:07
  And a lot of psychiatric doctors say that they don't like the
• 36:11
  fact that they send these people who are mentally ill, criminally
• 36:15
  insane or what not to the prison where these corrections officers
• 36:22
  don't have quite the proper amount of training to deal all
• 36:26
  the time with these individuals. And they're left to just try to
• 36:31
  treat them just like a normal inmate and do the best that they
• 36:35
  can. And I can tell you right now,
• 36:37
  most of the C OS in a corrections facility feel for
• 36:42
  these individuals. They they pity them because
• 36:45
  these poor people, they they're not meaning to be the way that
• 36:48
  they are and they need the psychiatric help and the prison
• 36:53
  system is not set up for that. So yeah.
• 36:58
  We got a Christian out here who's also fellow Trump
• 37:01
  supporter, but for some reason can't stand the likes of me.
• 37:05
  He asked. The Christian or biblical
• 37:07
  position is that other gods do exist.
• 37:11
  Well, I mean, if we were to take the Bible as literal, it does
• 37:14
  say that Satan is the God of this world.
• 37:16
  So is it wrong or is it correct? You're a Christian, That's up to
• 37:20
  you how you want to interpret that.
• 37:22
  And we got somebody. The Dean Goldberry has another
• 37:24
  question or a statement, and I don't know if you understand
• 37:29
  this, but he says something to the effect of a Christian killed
• 37:32
  him with prayer. You have any idea what the hell
• 37:35
  he's talking about? I believe he's talking about the
• 37:40
  myth that Christians killed Anton Lavey, and I'm not going
• 37:46
  to say that they didn't, but I'm not going to say that they did
• 37:49
  either. Anton Lavey passed away due to
• 37:52
  pulmonary edema. What I will say is that it is a
• 37:55
  myth that he repented on his deathbed because his last
• 37:59
  documented words, and you can ask any Levay family member of
• 38:03
  this, his last documented words were to he died before Halloween
• 38:10
  to have them publicly say that he died on Halloween.
• 38:16
  And that was actually respected and honored.
• 38:21
  And those were his last words. From what I understand of Levay
• 38:25
  family members, He was put into a medically induced coma after
• 38:28
  that, and he was intubated. So he had a tube down his throat
• 38:33
  and he was unconscious at the time of his death.
• 38:37
  He definitely did not say anything like, Oh my, Oh my,
• 38:40
  what's wrong? Something's wrong.
• 38:43
  And there was no cameras in his room.
• 38:45
  The only people who were in his room, I believe at the time of
• 38:49
  his death was Carla Levay and Blanche Barton, who was his
• 38:56
  lover there. And I don't know if Xerxes,
• 39:01
  their young son, was in there or not.
• 39:02
  I haven't heard anything like that, but I believe Stanton had
• 39:07
  said that he had been there as well.
• 39:09
  I know Stanton started getting really close to his grandfather
• 39:12
  again before he passed away. Well, it doesn't sound to me
• 39:17
  like anybody made any attempt on his life.
• 39:20
  It sounds like the man had some serious health issues and
• 39:24
  succumbed to them. So I don't know.
• 39:26
  We're getting. That well, magic itself can take
• 39:29
  on very natural looking causes. I know.
• 39:32
  I performed curses in the past that have taken very rapid
• 39:37
  effect and inside of a month the person was dead and it looked
• 39:42
  simply looked like that they had had a sudden onset or relapse of
• 39:46
  cancer or some other illness. We got another person out here
• 39:55
  who says the Bible also says place no other gods before me.
• 39:59
  I believe you're talking about the first commandment.
• 40:01
  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
• 40:03
  But the Bible actually has God defeating some other gods.
• 40:06
  So to say there is no other gods, it's.
• 40:11
  I would love for a Christian to come in and explain that.
• 40:14
  I'll leave it up to you guys. I just read it for what it says.
• 40:17
  Well, I, I, I'm of the same opinion personally that you you
• 40:21
  want us. If the Bible wants to say that
• 40:23
  there are other gods, then that's clearly stating that
• 40:27
  God's not alone all. Right.
• 40:31
  All right. That's that's how my logic hits
• 40:33
  it as well. But as always, I always
• 40:36
  encourage people. If they feel I'm wrong or I've
• 40:39
  interpreted something incorrectly, then come in here
• 40:42
  and correct me. Doubt it'll happen, but the link
• 40:46
  is out there. I do want to address another
• 40:51
  thing, Gavin, go ahead really quickly.
• 40:54
  Just as long as no trolls go around, try to say the N word.
• 40:58
  Right on, brother, Right on go. Ahead I I, I do want to address
• 41:03
  another thing. In that comment that you got
• 41:06
  from whoever he was, that 555 guy or Ace a SH555 or whatever
• 41:15
  his name was, you mentioned that Anton Lavey was a Jew.
• 41:23
  I believe I showed you rabbinical law earlier on how
• 41:27
  that works. Anton Lavey, his parentage
• 41:29
  wasn't Jewish, it was his grandmother on his father's side
• 41:33
  that was Jewish. And I want to put it out there
• 41:35
  that when if you want to look at it from two different
• 41:38
  perspectives, rabbinical law says Jewish heritage, mind you
• 41:44
  if you accept the Jewish traditions and that makes you a
• 41:47
  Jew anyways. But traditionally Jewish
• 41:50
  heritage is passed down through the mother's line, not the
• 41:56
  father's. So if a so if his grandmother on
• 42:02
  his father's side was Jewish, that would have made his father
• 42:06
  Jewish or at least not Jewish. But that would have mean he was
• 42:10
  not Jewish on that on that point in reason.
• 42:16
  But if we also wanted to look at the old Nuremberg laws and
• 42:19
  because people want to call me a Nazi and everything, I'm going
• 42:23
  to bring this up. The Nuremberg Laws would have
• 42:25
  said the exact same thing, that you could have one grandparent
• 42:29
  out of four grandparents that was Jewish.
• 42:32
  And by the time it comes to you, you're still considered a
• 42:37
  perfectly fine citizen of the Nazi Reich back in World War 2.
• 42:42
  And that was, you know, there is documentation showing that.
• 42:48
  Now remember any question or thing that I point out.
• 42:51
  If you don't feel like answering it, you can just say pass on it.
• 42:55
  The definition of a Nazi is a member of the far right National
• 42:59
  Socialist German Workers Party or of concerning the Nazi or
• 43:03
  Nazism. It seems like the word Nazi only
• 43:06
  got derogatory because of Hitler.
• 43:10
  So what is your view on that? And when they call you a Nazi,
• 43:13
  are they saying that you work for some specific group or
• 43:16
  something? Or what is that?
• 43:18
  Well, I've always been very open.
• 43:21
  Well, especially since last summer I've, I've been very open
• 43:24
  with who I am as an individual. And I didn't talk about my past
• 43:28
  for the longest time because I wanted people to see me as a
• 43:31
  person and not just simply judge me because of my past.
• 43:36
  And I find it very funny that a lot of people nowadays, they try
• 43:39
  to act like they're all loving and caring and accepting of
• 43:43
  everything. And they'll accept people, you
• 43:45
  know, and people's mistakes in their past no matter what.
• 43:50
  But the moment they get certain things thrown up at them, they
• 43:53
  suddenly become just as hypocritical as the racist that
• 43:59
  they rant and rave and say that they stand against.
• 44:03
  The truth of the matter is is yes, I was.
• 44:05
  I used to be a member of the National Socialist movement.
• 44:08
  I was a swastika toting neo Nazi and I have no problem saying
• 44:12
  that now because people can come to see me as I am now and I have
• 44:18
  No Fear of being that. So he can throw the term Nazi at
• 44:22
  me all day long and I'm not going to shy away from it.
• 44:26
  Anton Lavey, himself glad out, said most people are frightened
• 44:32
  to hang a pejorative around their neck.
• 44:34
  That is not always exactly flattering, and when I took on
• 44:39
  the term Satanist to describe me, I accepted that.
• 44:43
  And I accepted understandingly that the I would call things
• 44:49
  that were not very nice and that were demonized by the general
• 44:54
  public Nazi is just one more thing that was demonized by the
• 44:57
  general public. We can see that Anton Lavey
• 45:01
  himself surrounded himself with people who were Nazis
• 45:06
  themselves. He married his daughter Xena off
• 45:09
  to one very big National Socialist, Nicholas Shrek, who
• 45:13
  went on many radio shows that were of the Alt Right and far
• 45:17
  right back in the 80s. And yet he was still a member of
• 45:21
  the Church Satan up front going on national talk shows, so
• 45:26
  representing the Church Satan. And he was never stopped.
• 45:30
  And Xena Levay herself was also noted to, you know, support this
• 45:35
  philosophy herself. She along with Boyd Rice too,
• 45:40
  And Boyd Rice according to every public.
• 45:44
  That public outlet that was not the Church of Satan flat out has
• 45:48
  said Boyd Rice was asked by Anton Levay to take over the
• 45:52
  Church of Satan when Anton Levay was ready to retire and Rice
• 45:57
  turned it down for various reasons.
• 45:59
  Afterwards, he regretted after seeing what became of the church
• 46:03
  Satan. But he was asked by Anton Lavey
• 46:06
  if he would take it over. And you can read this in Boyd
• 46:09
  Rice's own book On the Last Testament of Anton Lavey, which
• 46:14
  is publicly available for sale. And so these are two gentlemen.
• 46:19
  There's pictures of Boyd Rice wearing swastikas.
• 46:21
  There's interviews with Boyd Rice, Nicholas, Shrek and other
• 46:25
  members of Radio Werewolf sitting in front of an satanic
• 46:29
  altar with a Nazi flag draped over it, swastika showing.
• 46:35
  And so I would say that these people who like to throw the
• 46:38
  pejorative around of Nazi is using the word Nazi in the not
• 46:44
  in the sense of the National Socialist German Workers Party
• 46:48
  or anything like that. They're using it as a variant of
• 46:54
  the other N word that we're not allowed to say against black
• 46:59
  people, but they're using the term Nazi as a version of that
• 47:03
  against white people. Well, I've heard the word Nazi
• 47:08
  used and so many people they like and respect.
• 47:11
  And I've also been accused of being a Nazi by people who were
• 47:14
  unhappy with me and debates and discussions.
• 47:17
  Yeah, Donald Trump is called a Nazi on a daily basis by the
• 47:21
  Democrat. So it's like it's kind of lost
• 47:23
  its flair, you know? Yeah, exactly.
• 47:26
  I think Terrance has it right in his little comment.
• 47:29
  Nazi equals thing I don't like. So the Church, Satan doesn't
• 47:36
  like me. I'm a Nazi.
• 47:40
  Oof, that's rough. They also use the term fascist
• 47:45
  as well. They called Blanche Barton after
• 47:49
  she flat out told the press that Anton Lavey believed in Satan.
• 47:53
  They called her a fascist too. Oh.
• 47:55
  Wolf said. That and so.
• 47:57
  That's could be called that. Just saying, I'm still waiting
• 48:00
  to be called that. Yeah.
• 48:04
  You notice that a lot of the, especially in politics, you'll
• 48:07
  notice that a lot of these people who call all these names
• 48:10
  and try to label people and pigeonhole folks, they're
• 48:14
  usually projecting their own views.
• 48:19
  Yeah, exactly. I find it just absolutely
• 48:25
  idiotic and funny that they would do anything like that.
• 48:34
  Well, we've gotten those comments and we put up a clip.
• 48:38
  And yeah, I mean, we've got like.
• 48:41
  A2. But.
• 48:44
  What I find funny, and this is my challenge, and I've been
• 48:47
  saying this challenge to Church of Satan for years and I'm
• 48:50
  putting it out there on your show because I know they love
• 48:53
  watching your show. I know that they love watching
• 48:56
  my show. But you seem to get a lot more
• 48:58
  views of me on your show right now.
• 49:01
  If you want to show a video clip or an audio clip of Anton Lavey
• 49:08
  saying that he's an atheist, then make sure he uses the exact
• 49:13
  words quote I am an atheist. Show me in his Canon literature
• 49:20
  that he where he says that he is an atheist.
• 49:24
  You can't because he never did. And I showed that in my last
• 49:28
  live stream and I've got a video, a one hour video that's
• 49:31
  gonna be coming up where people can actually see much better
• 49:33
  what I'm doing with PDF files and everything and how they can
• 49:38
  replicate it. That Anton Lavey at no point in
• 49:44
  time ever said Satanism was atheism.
• 49:47
  He never said he was an atheist. As a matter of fact, in the one
• 49:53
  line out of The Devil's Notebook, he flat out says that
• 49:57
  it is not enough to be atheist, that that is basically too
• 50:01
  simple of a way out to do things.
• 50:06
  Yeah, I I spent the last two weeks trying my hardest.
• 50:10
  I consider myself a pretty good researcher.
• 50:13
  I tried to find videos where Anton actually stated anything
• 50:17
  to do with atheism, wasn't able to find nothing.
• 50:21
  But every clip I did find of him during an interview, he spoke of
• 50:25
  God existing, spoke of the devil.
• 50:28
  He did go into this, these rants about God being not God but the
• 50:33
  devil being an essence in him, and that the devil is in all of
• 50:37
  us and things like that, but it seemed to me that he was
• 50:41
  describing Satan as an actual entity.
• 50:45
  Satan is the God of the flesh. He is the God of the earth.
• 50:50
  He is the fire of inspiration, what we would call the black
• 50:54
  flame. So yeah, that that's a very
• 50:56
  apartment description of him right there.
• 51:01
  I think if people think about this as well, and I said this to
• 51:04
  you before and you agreed with me and Anton just came out and
• 51:09
  said I'm an atheist, I have doubts that there's a God and
• 51:13
  and just went on his merry way, there wouldn't have been nothing
• 51:16
  luthering about it. Exactly.
• 51:18
  Exactly. Why didn't he?
• 51:20
  You see in the Church of Satan is scrambling left and freaking
• 51:24
  right to find these little snippets of articles where he
• 51:29
  supposedly says he's an atheist, when all he's saying isn't that
• 51:34
  he's an atheist, it's that Satan is a metaphor or a symbol.
• 51:40
  Well, when we actually look at the definition of what a deity
• 51:44
  is, it doesn't say that a deity can't be a symbol.
• 51:49
  It doesn't say a deity can't be a metaphor.
• 51:52
  Actually, it says that these things are part of the essence
• 51:55
  of what a deity is. And it doesn't necessarily need
• 52:00
  to be just simply Satan or just simply God.
• 52:04
  It could be any deity. It could be Zeus, Poseidon.
• 52:08
  You know the ancient Greeks and Romans, They had gods for
• 52:11
  everything. These were representations,
• 52:15
  ideas and concepts of different facets of their daily life.
• 52:22
  Bacchus was the God of wine celebrations as well as carnal
• 52:28
  stuff. I get what you're saying.
• 52:32
  And Christianity actually uses a lot of symbolic things, whether
• 52:37
  it's art, statues, jewelry, to represent something that they
• 52:41
  actually believe in. So I don't find that at all like
• 52:45
  a discerning or confusing and what you just pointed out.
• 52:50
  Exactly, yeah. And I think I can't pronounce
• 52:54
  Doge. David M Lorden, He makes a very
• 52:59
  good statement here. Interesting points.
• 53:01
  He says Anton didn't start the quote UN quote Church of Atheism
• 53:06
  did he? Makes you wonder.
• 53:07
  And you're exactly right there, David.
• 53:09
  It does make you wonder. And he certainly he called his
• 53:15
  church church Satan, not the Church of atheism.
• 53:18
  Who started the Church of Atheism?
• 53:20
  Do you know Brett? Right.
• 53:25
  You've told me about the founders and all that, but even
• 53:28
  Anton said that the view has been around even longer than
• 53:31
  himself, though. Really quickly I noticed Given
• 53:36
  wants to say something. What the hell you want to call
• 53:40
  the Church of atheism? Most atheists don't even want to
• 53:43
  have a church. They have a church though.
• 53:48
  Yeah, they we. I actually did a video.
• 53:52
  I actually did a video with TTOR and I pointed out several
• 53:56
  churches of atheism that have been popping out.
• 53:58
  So it's not like that wasn't available to him.
• 54:02
  If he wanted to be like the the Church of atheism, he could have
• 54:05
  done it. The atheist have been doing it,
• 54:08
  so no, he said. Let's do Church of Satanism.
• 54:12
  And according to you guys and some of the documentaries we
• 54:15
  watched, people did try to convince him to do something a
• 54:19
  little bit more nicer sounding, right?
• 54:22
  Yeah. In The Satanic Bible he's he
• 54:26
  flat out in the same chapter wanted God dead or alive.
• 54:31
  He's he talks about a question that is often post posed to him
• 54:35
  and it's like why not call it, why call it Satanism.
• 54:38
  Why not call it something nice or why not call it something
• 54:40
  more witchcraft. Do you why not call it something
• 54:43
  like humanism. And he goes into a very good
• 54:46
  sound explanation of it and you know I'm not going to worry
• 54:50
  about trying to read that out, you know, right now.
• 54:54
  But yeah, he, he makes that a very blatant point that he
• 54:59
  shoots that down right out of the gate.
• 55:02
  And at the end of the same chapter, he starts razzing on
• 55:07
  Christian atheists and he starts hammering on them.
• 55:12
  Because back in the 1960s, there was something going on where
• 55:16
  apparently a lot of Christians were invading Christian or
• 55:20
  atheists were invading Christianity.
• 55:22
  I don't know, maybe a lot of Christians were losing their
• 55:24
  faith back then. Nowadays, I was.
• 55:26
  I mean, in our live stream the other night we had came
• 55:31
  Blackfyre point out that there were indeed a lot of atheists in
• 55:34
  the Catholic Church. And this got me curious.
• 55:36
  And I was and I looked into it and turns out the Catholic
• 55:40
  Church has programs that to deal with this.
• 55:42
  That's not that they let just simply let in atheists.
• 55:47
  They understand that people can lose their faith and they
• 55:49
  actually have programs to help people choose whether or not to
• 55:53
  stay in the clergy or to help refine their faith.
• 55:58
  Dean Goldberry Yes, we do believe in Satan.
• 56:04
  Very simple. Yes, we do believe in Satan.
• 56:07
  And if you're a Christian, then you have to believe in the
• 56:10
  existence of the devil, because Satan has mentioned very many
• 56:14
  times biblically. But as my Satanist friends have
• 56:19
  said, they believe in many different forms of the
• 56:23
  explanation of the devil is where mine is more of a biblical
• 56:27
  thing. Yeah, it's not quite as cut and
• 56:30
  dry as what the general Christian might have.
• 56:35
  The general Christian. And mind you, I understand this
• 56:39
  is not for every single Christian, it's just a
• 56:42
  generalized thing. But most Christians have a very
• 56:45
  black and white concept of whether Satan is good or bad or
• 56:52
  God is good or bad. And I I believe a lot of
• 56:55
  Satanists have the reverse concept of that too, where Satan
• 57:01
  is the good guy and God is the bad guy.
• 57:04
  We were talking about that earlier today, Brett with
• 57:08
  Gnosticism and how they look at the demiurge and Yao Dabayev
• 57:13
  being a creator deity, but he was still the bad guy.
• 57:19
  Right, we got a let's see, this guy claims to be a Mormon, and
• 57:24
  he was talking about different gods and all that.
• 57:28
  I've actually seen some of the animations and pamphlets that
• 57:31
  Mormons handed out to me. They promised me I'd get a
• 57:34
  planet if I join their religion. And I said it sounds like I'm
• 57:38
  the only one that's going to be there.
• 57:39
  That's awfully lonely. I don't know if I want to do the
• 57:41
  Mormon thing just yet. Well, we actually had a Most
• 57:47
  people don't convert into Satanism, but STS seems to have
• 57:50
  a couple converts from Christianity.
• 57:52
  And one of them, who's in my grotto district, actually is a
• 57:56
  converted Mormon. He left the Church of Latter Day
• 58:00
  Saints to join STS. And he, he was a full born
• 58:05
  Mormon for like 20 years. And he just up and left.
• 58:09
  And even I had to, you know, people in my organization were
• 58:13
  like, what's going on here? And we actually called up his
• 58:16
  church. We talked to the bishops
• 58:20
  secretary about and everybody was like really confused on what
• 58:23
  was going on and he was very genuine, sincere and now he's a
• 58:29
  member of STS. So I guess one thing that some
• 58:35
  people might be interested in is obviously biblically it
• 58:39
  represents Satan as like a child or a offspring or created being
• 58:44
  of God himself. How do you view that?
• 58:48
  Well, if you read The Diabolicon by Michael Aquino, which is in
• 58:53
  Levianism, that works more or less as our form of Genesis.
• 58:59
  In the Diabolicon, God, who is I believe, called initially, he's
• 59:05
  called Messiah or whatnot, Lucifer and Michael all wake up
• 59:11
  in existence simultaneously. So they're they're actually
• 59:15
  brothers and then as time goes on, Messiah, he becomes Messiah
• 59:23
  and Lucifer becomes Satan. So they they morph, but they
• 59:29
  start off as in the beginning as brothers in that in that origin
• 59:35
  story. But there's many different
• 59:40
  versions of the story that I will say that happened in many
• 59:44
  different religions and in many of those traditions, such as
• 59:47
  Gnosticism. This is again where Yelda Baioff
• 59:50
  and the Demiurge come in. Lucifer is seen as the head God.
• 59:55
  He is the head deity and the inspirator of knowledge and
• 1:00:01
  wisdom. Where Yelda Baioff is a lesser
• 1:00:05
  deity and is jealous and he wanted to be something similar
• 1:00:10
  to the the creation. And he creates the material
• 1:00:17
  world and all things in it, including us, and traps a bunch
• 1:00:22
  of souls within the bodies and and all sorts of things.
• 1:00:27
  And he's seen as, yes, the creator of the world, but he's
• 1:00:34
  also seen as a very negative, deceitful deity.
• 1:00:38
  And so in this instance, I don't know whether you would consider
• 1:00:41
  God and Satan brother or brothers or creator and child or
• 1:00:48
  whatnot. However, in this instance,
• 1:00:50
  definitely Lucifer would be seen over God or the Demiurge in this
• 1:00:56
  particular instance. The Mormon fell out here, says.
• 1:01:02
  Well, actually, we do believe that we basically are united
• 1:01:05
  with our entire family, going back to the beginning in an
• 1:01:09
  exalted state and have the opportunity to create your own
• 1:01:12
  universe simplified. Well, it's not that simple, is
• 1:01:15
  it? Some people come from
• 1:01:17
  dysfunctional families like myself.
• 1:01:19
  They may not want to share a planet with me for all eternity.
• 1:01:22
  You get what I'm saying? That's why the Mormons that
• 1:01:25
  visited my home told me that they needed a special scroll in
• 1:01:28
  order to get onto my planet. See what I mean?
• 1:01:31
  Interesting. Yeah.
• 1:01:33
  I have a copy of the Book of Mormons somewhere, but I haven't
• 1:01:36
  read it in who knows how long. I also have a copy of the Quran
• 1:01:42
  and I'm pretty sure we have a Bible copy around her somewhere.
• 1:01:47
  You get what I'm saying. If it's in the Pearl of Prices.
• 1:01:50
  I have read their book and I find it interesting and I enjoy
• 1:01:53
  their company. They get offended because I
• 1:01:56
  always forget that they don't like coffee, but Ioffer it
• 1:01:59
  anyway because I'm a good guy and.
• 1:02:01
  Being a coffee, I think I need a refill.
• 1:02:06
  Go ahead, Devin. I did watch a guy who did like a
• 1:02:10
  deep dive on the entire philosophy like ideology of
• 1:02:13
  Mormonism and and also I wish I could drink coffee but I can't
• 1:02:18
  guess it's like evening because I got to work tomorrow.
• 1:02:20
  Yeah. You seem a little bit
• 1:02:22
  hyperactive. Well, that's you're watching
• 1:02:25
  more. Coffee.
• 1:02:26
  More caffeine ready to go? That's what they told me.
• 1:02:30
  I said. What if somebody's been married
• 1:02:32
  a couple times and they don't like their ex wives?
• 1:02:34
  Are they going to be, you know, combined with each other for all
• 1:02:37
  eternity 'cause that almost sounds like a form of hell.
• 1:02:40
  And they said no, no, no, no. Those those women will get to
• 1:02:43
  choose their own planet if they want to be with you.
• 1:02:46
  Then you two got to work out a scroll contract or something
• 1:02:50
  like a magical Lord of the Rings type of thing like.
• 1:02:53
  I can do. This.
• 1:02:54
  That's fantastic. Go ahead.
• 1:02:56
  I can do this. We can negotiate a contract.
• 1:03:01
  We actually do have that. It's it's meant more of as a
• 1:03:04
  personal joke but the signing contract with the devil.
• 1:03:08
  But in we actually have that for people who want to do that and
• 1:03:12
  that's sort of a personal thing. According to Michael Aquino, he
• 1:03:15
  actually, Anton Lavey drew up a contract when he founded the
• 1:03:20
  church. Satan.
• 1:03:21
  He had a personal pact with Satan.
• 1:03:23
  So yeah. And David, yeah, we have hot
• 1:03:26
  chocolate too. I'll make you one, doesn't
• 1:03:29
  matter. I hope you're not taking offense
• 1:03:32
  to anything I've said, David, I'm just goofing.
• 1:03:34
  I think Mormons are some of the sweetest people out there.
• 1:03:37
  They always ask me before they leave, is there anything we can
• 1:03:40
  do for you? And I said, well, if you want to
• 1:03:41
  write me out a check for $1,000,000, that would really
• 1:03:44
  help with the bills. Yeah, I'm going to leave you and
• 1:03:54
  Black Miller to talk. I'm actually going to get myself
• 1:03:56
  another cup of coffee, so I will be right back in a minute.
• 1:04:00
  Sounds like a plan. So how you been doing, man?
• 1:04:02
  How's your life been? Let's just say it's just been
• 1:04:06
  tough, you know? Like, I dig, I mess.
• 1:04:08
  Like, I don't know, Like, first of all, I don't know why I
• 1:04:11
  decided to come on there without permission.
• 1:04:13
  But at the same time, it's like, eh, sometimes you gotta cause a
• 1:04:16
  little trouble to, you know, show you know the intelligence.
• 1:04:20
  But doesn't mean you should do it all the time.
• 1:04:22
  I think that you were perfectly respectful.
• 1:04:25
  I enjoyed your company and I hope in the future you'll come
• 1:04:28
  in more often. That's I see you as a good guy,
• 1:04:32
  so keep on showing up if you can.
• 1:04:34
  I would, I would definitely show up.
• 1:04:36
  As long as you know Lucifer, Leigh, Gordon and the other you
• 1:04:39
  know counts, you know other you know Akron's are around, I'll
• 1:04:42
  definitely, you know, join in. Sounds good.
• 1:04:47
  Sounds good. That's all because I don't want
• 1:04:48
  to, you know, go in, you know, unexpectedly like I did, like
• 1:04:53
  last week. That's fair enough.
• 1:04:57
  You don't want to step on any toes.
• 1:04:59
  I get you, man. Yeah, 'cause that was kind of
• 1:05:02
  pretty dumb with me, but at the same time, it was worth it.
• 1:05:04
  Like there's a difference between doing something, you
• 1:05:06
  know, like that for a good reason, 'cause I don't like
• 1:05:09
  doing stuff for publicity, you know, 'cause I'm not one of
• 1:05:12
  those people going, Oh yeah, I'm a Oh yeah, I'm a praise for the
• 1:05:16
  STS. Yeah, You know, like being some
• 1:05:19
  kind of a hotshot. It's understandable, It's
• 1:05:23
  understandable. Yeah, I've been We are breaking.
• 1:05:26
  Hotshot now. Yeah, I'm just kidding.
• 1:05:32
  Like, I also been watching some other, like low cows and you
• 1:05:36
  know, reading I've just got done doing guitar lessons.
• 1:05:40
  So you do guitar. Yes, I do.
• 1:05:43
  So what's it going to take for me to get you to plug in an amp
• 1:05:46
  into your computer one of these times and jam out for me?
• 1:05:49
  I love me some metal and Rock, You know?
• 1:05:51
  We talked about that. Yeah, oh, I know how to do black
• 1:05:54
  metal. I know how to do treble pick.
• 1:05:56
  Like I'd switch from my strings from a size 9 to a size 10
• 1:06:00
  strings because like I've been playing nines for like 4 years.
• 1:06:04
  So yeah, I've been playing guitar for like about four
• 1:06:06
  years. I know I do Paranoia by Black
• 1:06:08
  Sabbath. Of course King Cobra.
• 1:06:10
  JFS would try to compete. Go.
• 1:06:12
  Nah, man, this guy doesn't understand.
• 1:06:16
  You know how to play Black Sabbath.
• 1:06:18
  I'm going to do my drink combo, then I'm going to play my
• 1:06:21
  guitar. What about music like Megadeth?
• 1:06:26
  I mean, Black Sabbath has got some good refs, but what about
• 1:06:29
  some Megadeth? I haven't gone to Megadeth, but
• 1:06:32
  I am like learning Metallica though from my guitar teacher
• 1:06:35
  learning to play seek and destroy.
• 1:06:39
  Well, I'll tell you what, you talk to your guitar teacher and
• 1:06:42
  tell him that you want to learn Symphony and destruction.
• 1:06:46
  Oh, he will teach me some, he'll teach me some.
• 1:06:49
  It's just it's all about being slowly.
• 1:06:52
  I'll definitely do Symphony of Destruction, Sympathy of
• 1:06:55
  Destruction. That's right, you take a mortal.
• 1:07:01
  Man, watch him become a God. There.
• 1:07:09
  You go, you got the boys down, rocking them.
• 1:07:13
  Help me meet the real me in my Misfits royal life.
• 1:07:18
  The dark past is mine, the most valuable possession.
• 1:07:24
  Hindsight is always 2020, but looking back, it's still a bit
• 1:07:28
  fuzzy. Taking a little bit of short,
• 1:07:31
  mutual obstruction. There you go.
• 1:07:34
  See. You rocked it, man.
• 1:07:36
  Rock oh. Yeah, I've been, I've been
• 1:07:37
  practicing my vocals because I'm trying to form my own black
• 1:07:41
  metal band. It's just trying to.
• 1:07:42
  I got a Jordan from Indiana. So I'm just trying to find, you
• 1:07:45
  know, other band members, you know, like people could play the
• 1:07:47
  bass and find a recording studio so I can get, you know, my demo
• 1:07:51
  out. So what kind of guitar you got?
• 1:07:55
  I have a dime bag, actually. I'll be right back.
• 1:07:59
  Oh yeah, Got. Just going to show you this
• 1:08:04
  little sexy beast right here. Look at that right here, dude.
• 1:08:09
  Oh man, look at that. That's got that whole ride, the
• 1:08:13
  lightning thing, going on, doesn't it?
• 1:08:16
  Yep, that's always been Dimebag. Darrell's like signature guitar.
• 1:08:21
  Like since he poured pants since he poured Pantera along with his
• 1:08:25
  brother Paul. Benny Paul.
• 1:08:30
  This one still has my 9 strings in there.
• 1:08:33
  I'm going to show you my other guitar, the one I bring to
• 1:08:35
  practice. This one has some.
• 1:08:37
  This one has good old Jack Daniels on it.
• 1:08:40
  Of course, if you're a Moorhead fan, you know that's Lenny's
• 1:08:44
  favorite favorite drink. Oh, I like Motörhead.
• 1:08:49
  I especially like the theme song that comes out with Triple H
• 1:08:53
  back. Whenever.
• 1:08:53
  Oh yeah, the game. The game.
• 1:08:58
  I am the game. Yes.
• 1:09:01
  Yep, this is like the guitar I use right here has Kush Frost.
• 1:09:05
  That's a a Los Angeles, CA band. I got Sodom on there.
• 1:09:10
  I have Sepatura. Got all the good stuff?
• 1:09:15
  Well, hold on, we got somebody wanting to come in.
• 1:09:17
  Hopefully they'll scream on top of their lungs and give us.
• 1:09:21
  Don't say any word, or else you know what happens.
• 1:09:24
  Here we go. Hello there, Michael Lorden.
• 1:09:28
  Hello. Oh, I see you are out.
• 1:09:32
  Your what hurts? No, I said.
• 1:09:34
  You have the guitar out. Oh yeah, yeah, he's he's jamming
• 1:09:39
  for us. Yeah, I this is this is Doge
• 1:09:43
  from the chat I I see my pictures different when I use
• 1:09:46
  when I tried to sign on here. Oh, you were having an issue
• 1:09:52
  logging in. Yeah, it's different from my
• 1:09:56
  account for whatever reason. Oh, that's weird.
• 1:10:01
  Yeah, unfortunately I have to do that.
• 1:10:03
  Because if I don't habits where people have to connect like
• 1:10:07
  that, I'll start getting raided by people that makes it to where
• 1:10:10
  they can't do it as. Any place?
• 1:10:14
  Oh. Well, you know, with all the
• 1:10:16
  scams and things these days and bots and whatnot, and you know,
• 1:10:22
  better safe than sorry, right? Oh, I hear you, man.
• 1:10:26
  Well, I'm, I'm not really worried about.
• 1:10:28
  I don't care if people raid or they come in and they want to
• 1:10:31
  troll me a little bit. My policy is, though, if you're
• 1:10:34
  going to troll me, you got to be entertaining when you do it.
• 1:10:38
  I don't like the boring ones, I mean.
• 1:10:43
  Yeah, you can get. Fair Mr. Lucifer.
• 1:10:45
  If you're going to troll us, at least make it fun, you know?
• 1:10:50
  I'm just enjoying my almond flavored coffee.
• 1:10:54
  Oh man, that sounds delicious. Oh, that sounds really good
• 1:10:57
  right now. I wish I could have some.
• 1:10:59
  The devil, The Devil's nectar. And also I'm playing the devil's
• 1:11:03
  music, playing, playing go to surgeon, seek and destroy.
• 1:11:15
  Sounding a little flat. Here, I hope I don't get in
• 1:11:22
  trouble with anybody in here, but after the Black Album,
• 1:11:26
  Metallica, I'm not really, I don't really like the newer
• 1:11:29
  stuff of Metallica. I like everything Black Album
• 1:11:32
  and back. Yeah, like, I feel like that's
• 1:11:35
  like the part. They just really kind of went
• 1:11:37
  down since after they done injustice for all.
• 1:11:42
  I mean, how do you do cool titles like that?
• 1:11:45
  Seek and Destroy Inner Sandman and then Load, unload, reload.
• 1:11:51
  Butt load. I mean, come on, it doesn't
• 1:11:53
  even. Sound.
• 1:11:54
  Oh, don't get me sorry Saint Anger.
• 1:11:56
  Oh my. That you.
• 1:11:57
  Don't, don't don't Don't What the?
• 1:11:59
  I don't really listen to Metallica very much.
• 1:12:02
  I mean, I listen to a couple things on them, but they're not
• 1:12:04
  really my flavor of band. What are you listening to, Guy?
• 1:12:09
  I listen to a lot of lauderty, old school Nightwish I like.
• 1:12:15
  Let me see here. Blue dangle like that.
• 1:12:20
  Power Wolf, Man of War. Nightwish is incredible.
• 1:12:25
  Oh yeah, Nightwish. Oh yeah.
• 1:12:26
  Especially see, I don't like the newer Nightwish.
• 1:12:30
  I prefer the Nightwish when Tariya Turunin was the female
• 1:12:34
  vocals. I don't like Nightwish after she
• 1:12:37
  left. Well if some of the some of the
• 1:12:41
  music I I can find a couple songs that I can kind of go yeah
• 1:12:45
  that's rocking. But her all of her albums were
• 1:12:49
  great. Every song was epic that you're
• 1:12:52
  talking. Temple is also good.
• 1:12:54
  I just noticed Christopher mentioned Twin Temple.
• 1:12:57
  I've I've listened to some of their stuff recently and I
• 1:12:59
  really like it. It's that old, it's a satanic
• 1:13:04
  music and it's a classic. It's done in a classic Doo wop
• 1:13:07
  style and it's really fun. So what about you, Mr. Mormon
• 1:13:12
  Man? What kind of stuff you listen
• 1:13:13
  to? You listen to some sweetheart
• 1:13:15
  stuff or what? Well, you know what?
• 1:13:17
  I do like some Black Sabbath. That's about the only name I
• 1:13:23
  actually recognize here, to be honest.
• 1:13:26
  And. What Black Sabbath we talking
• 1:13:28
  about? Ozzy or Dio?
• 1:13:31
  Ozzy. Well, I think you should go for
• 1:13:34
  both if you're really going to go all out on that.
• 1:13:37
  Well, I don't know the rest. I know Paranoid.
• 1:13:39
  I know that. I know his songs.
• 1:13:41
  Crazy Train all that. That's the that's Ozzy
• 1:13:44
  Osbourne's solo debuted album. I'll tell you what, man.
• 1:13:49
  Listen to Black Sabbath Heaven and hell.
• 1:13:51
  And then? You.
• 1:13:51
  That album is fucking. Awesome.
• 1:13:55
  Like, no joke, Ryan James Dio's vocals is just killer, Yeah.
• 1:14:01
  I'm going to get a musical education when you know over
• 1:14:04
  here, you guys, you guys are the experts when it comes to.
• 1:14:06
  Oh guys, when it comes to metal, dude, I have an entire CD
• 1:14:10
  collection. Most of them are like black
• 1:14:12
  metal bands. Like one of the bands I like to
• 1:14:13
  listen to is mostly like Satanic War Master Bersum.
• 1:14:19
  Sometimes a bit of mayhem with Tan Morduck or.
• 1:14:25
  Borgia. Oh yes, that's a good one.
• 1:14:28
  Good symphonic. Black Cradle Of Filth.
• 1:14:30
  Demi Borders show there. There's some of the mainstream
• 1:14:32
  black metal bands that are openly satanic, The Cradle of
• 1:14:38
  Hilth. They have Satanism all over
• 1:14:41
  stuff. And when you actually go back
• 1:14:43
  and watch some of their videos, some of their videos are pretty
• 1:14:46
  harsh. Oh yeah, it's some very
• 1:14:49
  gratuitous graphic. And this was before, like
• 1:14:52
  YouTube and whatnot. And they had like, boobies all
• 1:14:55
  over the place. Blood, Guts, Gore.
• 1:14:58
  But I also like to listen to like Dark Throne or Revenge.
• 1:15:03
  That's a Bastille black metal band, Arch Goat.
• 1:15:05
  There's also Destroyer 666. That's a Australian black and
• 1:15:08
  thrash metal band. You guys, you know I love
• 1:15:14
  talking about horror flicks and. Music and I also.
• 1:15:17
  Like talking about classic World of Warcraft, but unfortunately
• 1:15:21
  those 3 topics, sooner or later my audience starts taking off.
• 1:15:25
  They're like he's just too much into that.
• 1:15:28
  We might want to try to get ourselves into a.
• 1:15:30
  Topic if I. End the World of Warcraft.
• 1:15:33
  I'm going to put my entire audience to sleep going.
• 1:15:35
  Oh, you like World of Warcraft? Oh, hell yeah, man.
• 1:15:39
  I'm talking about before Cataclysm, though.
• 1:15:41
  I'm talking about all the way up to the, you know, the what was.
• 1:15:45
  Wrath of the Lich King. Yes, Wrath of the Lich King.
• 1:15:50
  I was going to say, you know, I that's when I I stopped playing.
• 1:15:54
  I'm 24 and you know I played a lot up until Wrath of the Lich
• 1:16:01
  King and then after that it just fell off and I I.
• 1:16:05
  I've never really got into Warcraft.
• 1:16:07
  I'm more into like tabletop gaming and whatnot.
• 1:16:11
  I was really young when that. Game was popular.
• 1:16:16
  We've been doing a our one buddy from Brazil.
• 1:16:20
  He comes up and he's been we've been running a campaign with him
• 1:16:26
  in Vampire the Masquerade and it's old school 2nd edition
• 1:16:30
  vampire and it's pretty fun. Yeah, my my brother.
• 1:16:36
  He's in the board games and he also likes doing the Magic
• 1:16:40
  cards. No folks, he's not some kind of
• 1:16:43
  evil guy. Just like the cards, and they're
• 1:16:45
  pretty cool. Well, Wizards of the Coast has
• 1:16:51
  gone through some serious shit right now since the whole OGL
• 1:16:55
  nonsense thing at the beginning of last year where they try to
• 1:17:01
  do away with the OGL, which would have really hurt a lot of
• 1:17:06
  gaming gamer game, Tabletop Rank gaming creators.
• 1:17:12
  I am a fan of of the the fantasy games, physical ones that you
• 1:17:18
  play on on the like warhammers and those type of.
• 1:17:24
  Games I've been curious about Warhammer, I've never had a
• 1:17:27
  chance to play it. The game like I've been playing
• 1:17:31
  right now is Prototype. That's a really good game play
• 1:17:35
  is Alex Mercer. He's infected with called the
• 1:17:37
  Black Eye Virus, and I have a friend who's trying to call me a
• 1:17:40
  Discord. Sorry about that.
• 1:17:46
  My friend was trying to call me a Discord.
• 1:17:47
  He's a really good friend of mine for Louisiana.
• 1:17:50
  One of my favorite old hobbies that I reckon on the right is
• 1:17:54
  one of my favorite little hobbies that I like to do on the
• 1:17:56
  side is paint miniatures. And this is a young white dragon
• 1:18:01
  miniature for the dragon of Ice Fire Peak or D&D that it was a
• 1:18:06
  campaign that we've been slowly playing or we need to get back
• 1:18:10
  to it here in my household. And so I painted this up.
• 1:18:14
  I have like a bunch of other miniatures over here that I've
• 1:18:18
  painted as well. I was going to say, yeah, on
• 1:18:23
  your guitar there. I like the the way about the
• 1:18:27
  sticker there, the radioactive. Oh yeah.
• 1:18:30
  That's like a punk, like a punk record.
• 1:18:33
  And I have a lot of stickers on my guitar, like I have Kush
• 1:18:36
  Frost. I have some really good stuff.
• 1:18:39
  Sodom Sepatura I even have forever plagued records.
• 1:18:45
  Let's say band from That's a record store.
• 1:18:48
  On it's a Pennsylvania record store.
• 1:18:54
  Yeah, it looked, it looks good. What about you, Brett?
• 1:18:59
  Are you still there? Yeah, I'm still here.
• 1:19:02
  Oh, I couldn't. I couldn't see you on, so I
• 1:19:04
  wasn't. I wasn't sure what kind of What
• 1:19:07
  kind of things do you like? Like what?
• 1:19:09
  What are your hobbies? Well, I like I used to be a
• 1:19:13
  former musician. My brother ended up fully taking
• 1:19:16
  over the band and he's doing his thing and from time time goes
• 1:19:20
  out and does shows and all that. Nowadays I spend most of my time
• 1:19:24
  writing books and doing these shows and doing the radio.
• 1:19:28
  I really enjoy that. I get to talk about what's ever
• 1:19:31
  on my mind and also rock out to any kind of music I want and I
• 1:19:35
  have a license for it, so I can just play whatever I want and I
• 1:19:38
  don't have to worry about copyright.
• 1:19:40
  Nasty stuff. Oh yeah, I've been, I've been
• 1:19:44
  doing some bit listens to my vinyls.
• 1:19:47
  I was listening to a bit of Possessed 7 churches.
• 1:19:50
  Really great death metal album band.
• 1:19:53
  After getting out of like a classic World of Warcraft, I
• 1:19:57
  ended up getting into Bethesda games like Oblivion, Morrowind,
• 1:20:00
  Skyrim, Skyrim. Oh yeah, Skyrim.
• 1:20:05
  Yes. So you like the open world game
• 1:20:08
  there, Brett? Yeah, the last game that I have
• 1:20:11
  tried that I was really looking forward to, but it went woke
• 1:20:15
  with Starfield and that really broke my heart.
• 1:20:18
  That made me. That made me have bad thoughts.
• 1:20:21
  No, no, no. I've never played any.
• 1:20:24
  Yeah, I played Skyrim. I should.
• 1:20:26
  I should track myself. I have played Skyrim.
• 1:20:29
  Starfield. Was supposed to be.
• 1:20:32
  Starfield was supposed to be a game where you create your
• 1:20:34
  character and you explore space, unlimited amount of planets to
• 1:20:39
  visit and all that. It was supposed to be great.
• 1:20:42
  But as soon as I'm creating my character, it asked me, are you
• 1:20:45
  a woman? Are you a he?
• 1:20:47
  She it, they and them. And I'm like, what in the hell
• 1:20:50
  is this hold? On.
• 1:20:53
  Yeah, I thought I I think the last game that I played that was
• 1:20:56
  like that was, it was a Conan game.
• 1:20:58
  I actually haven't, But it takes forever to load into the Xbox
• 1:21:04
  One that I have it. It's a open world concept where
• 1:21:08
  you can play as Conan and or a Conan character in the Hyborian
• 1:21:13
  kingdoms. She's I thought.
• 1:21:15
  I thought Red Dead Redemption 2 takes a long time to get loaded
• 1:21:19
  on my Xbox One. That one's kind of slow to load
• 1:21:22
  for sure. But that game is awesome though,
• 1:21:26
  And also I did. Play.
• 1:21:27
  Last time I tried to update that Conan game, it said that it was
• 1:21:30
  going to take 8 hours just to update. 8 hours.
• 1:21:34
  You know I have fiber optic Internet, so we got screaming
• 1:21:38
  fast Internet and it still said it was going to take something
• 1:21:42
  like 6 to 8 hours. You know that is one of the
• 1:21:45
  issues. You know, nowadays you know we
• 1:21:47
  do, since we used. The what else?
• 1:21:48
  Definitely it is. Yeah, I I where I live out here
• 1:21:55
  in Midwestern Canada. Out in the country we we have
• 1:22:01
  satellite Internet and you know, it works, but it's better than
• 1:22:05
  nothing and the updates sometimes take several days long
• 1:22:10
  just to get something done. I'd rather have the, you know,
• 1:22:13
  the discs and. What's up, death Metalitus?
• 1:22:15
  How you doing, brother? Get it done with.
• 1:22:19
  Hold on. If we do not get the tips skull,
• 1:22:22
  we're going to end the live stream, period.
• 1:22:24
  Because I have dark side feel. We're going to end this stream
• 1:22:26
  if you'll give me the tips, skull, because that's how I
• 1:22:30
  think of the TST I think of as Dark Side Phil beggar for tips
• 1:22:34
  goal. So Michael, I got to ask, you
• 1:22:37
  said one year or more. The number two, you're in
• 1:22:39
  Canada, so you're dealing with that Justin Trudy guy, right?
• 1:22:43
  Oh boy, I'm. Sorry, what's that?
• 1:22:46
  I'm. Sorry that you have to deal with
• 1:22:48
  that bro. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:50
  I'm sorry you got. I'm sorry that he he's walking
• 1:22:53
  around all over the world making, making the country look.
• 1:22:58
  Look, I'm gonna make. Sure, you're doing great again.
• 1:23:00
  I'm I'm pretty sure I can arrange for a pitchfork to be
• 1:23:03
  shoved up where the sun don't shine with him are.
• 1:23:06
  You able to submit something you probably.
• 1:23:07
  Like that though, that's the problem.
• 1:23:10
  We we can send him on a permanent summer vacation.
• 1:23:13
  I don't know if anyone, yeah. I say that sounds pretty.
• 1:23:17
  Good. It just it it might stink of a
• 1:23:20
  little bit of brimstone, if you catch my drift.
• 1:23:23
  You know this then in World of Warcraft, you know, send them,
• 1:23:26
  send them off, you know, somewhere.
• 1:23:29
  But I don't know if any of you saw the Tucker Carlson Putin
• 1:23:33
  interview. Oh yeah.
• 1:23:35
  I haven't sat down for that. Well, I was really surprised
• 1:23:39
  because you know, Canada never really gets mentioned.
• 1:23:42
  But the Parliament of Canada, Justin Trudeau invited an actual
• 1:23:48
  Nazi because we were talking about an earlier in year in the
• 1:23:51
  interview when you were talking about, you know, the actual
• 1:23:55
  meaning of Nazi. This was a literal Nazi s s
• 1:23:59
  officer from, you know, World War 2 that they invited when
• 1:24:06
  Zelensky came to Canada to speak and they were all clapping for
• 1:24:12
  him for fighting. They were, they said, for
• 1:24:15
  fighting against the Russians in World War 2, and because he was
• 1:24:19
  Ukrainian and they were all clapping for him.
• 1:24:23
  And then it came out. Oh yeah, he was a Ukrainian s s
• 1:24:28
  Nazi collaborator. Yeah, Putin was really bothered
• 1:24:33
  by this, obviously, because one of the reasons he has an issue
• 1:24:36
  with Ukraine was over that, and then they're over there
• 1:24:39
  celebrating. So that was mentioned in the
• 1:24:41
  Putin conversation. It was.
• 1:24:43
  Not really. I find it.
• 1:24:45
  I find it absolutely hilarious on how America, how America is
• 1:24:51
  so anti Nazi and everything and they're like, oh he's an auntie,
• 1:24:56
  he's a Nazi, he's a Nazi. We don't agree with him.
• 1:24:58
  So he's a Nazi. And then we're back when Russia
• 1:25:04
  invaded the Ukraine. We're all supporting Ukraine and
• 1:25:08
  Ukraine is actually a national Socialist run country.
• 1:25:13
  Well, that that's the thing. And you know it.
• 1:25:16
  Like, like Brett was saying it, it's disgusting, the fact that
• 1:25:20
  this is someone who's actually murdered or been responsible
• 1:25:24
  for, you know, killing, who knows how many people being
• 1:25:30
  applauded and you know. I'm I'm going to stop you right
• 1:25:36
  there. Because you don't know if he
• 1:25:38
  actually did any of that. He could.
• 1:25:40
  He was part of the party. That doesn't mean he pulled the
• 1:25:43
  trigger on anybody. That doesn't mean he stuffed
• 1:25:45
  anybody in the oven. It doesn't mean that he actually
• 1:25:48
  did anything horrendous. It could have just been.
• 1:25:52
  I will play. Wherever I did research, 'cause
• 1:25:55
  I I always like to do my research and this individual was
• 1:26:00
  was responsible for, you know, going out and and shoot it.
• 1:26:05
  He did. He did actually commit that, so
• 1:26:08
  that, OK. So when you did, you actually
• 1:26:11
  did your research. OK, then I stand corrected.
• 1:26:14
  You know, you do know whether or not OK and you can look, I
• 1:26:16
  stand. Corrected.
• 1:26:17
  I encourage people to to look look up this individual who the
• 1:26:21
  speak that you can look up. Speaker of Canadians, Canada's
• 1:26:24
  Parliament, Speaker Roha invite invites S s Nazi from Ukraine
• 1:26:36
  and and the crimes he was responsible for.
• 1:26:40
  And what year did this happen in?
• 1:26:41
  Because a lot of people from back then, during World War 2,
• 1:26:45
  they're pretty up there in age now.
• 1:26:48
  He would have had to have been pretty young when he was over
• 1:26:51
  there when he was fighting in the war to still be kicking it
• 1:26:56
  right now, well. I think he was in his 90s, but
• 1:27:04
  people thought like they're dressed, you know, People
• 1:27:06
  thought he was, you know some great veteran and you know,
• 1:27:10
  everyone was was clapping for him and everything.
• 1:27:13
  Yay, we're we're. So very.
• 1:27:15
  Good you Mr. Dossey. I'm, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
• 1:27:18
  flat out say that, you know, when you've actually seen
• 1:27:20
  combat, it doesn't matter what side of a war you've been on.
• 1:27:24
  A war for everybody who's in it is hell.
• 1:27:28
  It it's torture and it leaves scars.
• 1:27:31
  So you know, whether he was on the wrong side or the right side
• 1:27:35
  of a war really doesn't matter. Some of the shit that he had to
• 1:27:39
  see most likely took a lot of bravery to face and then come
• 1:27:43
  home and try to lead a normal life afterwards.
• 1:27:47
  The fact of the matter is is he wasn't arrested or tried at the
• 1:27:51
  Nuremberg trials. If he wasn't done anything like
• 1:27:55
  that, he's been allowed to live all the way into his 90s, as
• 1:27:58
  you've made very clear. That leads me to believe that
• 1:28:01
  even though he fought against the Allied troops, again against
• 1:28:07
  that, even though he was a s s officer, that he had to have
• 1:28:11
  done something to allow himself to remain free and not be taken
• 1:28:18
  to the gallows or not be taken to the guillotine or anything
• 1:28:21
  like that. After after World War 2 ended in
• 1:28:25
  the Nuremberg trials were going on.
• 1:28:27
  Well, he had. He had, you know, forged some
• 1:28:30
  papers and that, But regardless, I do agree that there were a lot
• 1:28:34
  of individuals who had, you know, been forced and drafted.
• 1:28:40
  Well, one thing that's not commonly known about the Nazi
• 1:28:44
  party is everybody tries to say that the Nazis were all against
• 1:28:47
  the Jews and they weren't. They were actually against the
• 1:28:49
  Bolshevist. When you actually read Adolf
• 1:28:52
  Hitler's Mein Kampf, he only mentions the Jews directly three
• 1:29:00
  times in the entire book, and he's not really focused on them.
• 1:29:04
  He's very focused on the Bolsheviks, though, and
• 1:29:08
  unfortunately during World War 2, the Bolsheviks were mostly in
• 1:29:13
  the Jewish community, and that's the unfortunate part.
• 1:29:19
  And I think that had a very big role to play in the early on of
• 1:29:24
  what started, what started the push against the Jewish
• 1:29:29
  community, because we had many and it's actually starting to
• 1:29:34
  come out now. There was a lot of Jewish Nazi
• 1:29:37
  officers that were very high-ranking.
• 1:29:40
  They were very close to Adolf Hitler, I believe Adolf.
• 1:29:45
  We were talking earlier on how the Nuremberg laws look at
• 1:29:51
  things as well as rabbinical law, on how they all look at
• 1:29:54
  things of what how much Jewishness is decided or
• 1:29:59
  determined within an individual in in the law.
• 1:30:06
  And we see that, if I understand things correctly, it all,
• 1:30:12
  Hitler's own mother was actually Jewish.
• 1:30:16
  And so that means genetically, biologically by rabbinical law
• 1:30:21
  as well as Nuremberg law or Nazi law, that Adolf Hitler was half
• 1:30:26
  Jew and yet he was still the Fuhrer.
• 1:30:30
  He was still the leader of the whole thing, even though he
• 1:30:34
  himself was Catholic. So that is very interesting that
• 1:30:40
  a lot of people tend to miss and there was a lot of high-ranking
• 1:30:44
  openly Jewish officers in the Nazi military and we even there
• 1:30:51
  was even like one very high-ranking s s officer who is
• 1:30:54
  openly gay. And so it this really punches a
• 1:30:59
  lot of holes in a lot of the narratives that we are led to
• 1:31:03
  believe about the Nazi party back then.
• 1:31:07
  And I'm not sitting here trying to make any sort of apologize.
• 1:31:09
  I don't want people mistaking me in this.
• 1:31:12
  I'm not apologizing. I'm not trying to justify or
• 1:31:15
  anything of what went on in World War 2, but just like with
• 1:31:19
  the Church, Satan and Anton, the way, I'd like to see people make
• 1:31:23
  sure that they have a clear understanding of what they're
• 1:31:27
  talking about before we go pointing fingers accusatorily at
• 1:31:33
  everybody. Well, I I agree and I think it's
• 1:31:37
  important that that the history and that the truth, well you
• 1:31:40
  know, in its full context is presented.
• 1:31:44
  And especially, you know, Putin also mentioned and it's true
• 1:31:49
  that a lot of I think more Russians and and Polish people
• 1:31:55
  and all different kinds of people were were killed in in
• 1:32:01
  the World War 2, you know when the Germans invaded And and so
• 1:32:08
  it wasn't, it wasn't just Jews that were that were targeted.
• 1:32:12
  It was. It was a war thing.
• 1:32:15
  So it wasn't. It was very unfortunate how many
• 1:32:19
  Jews died but. A lot of people don't know it
• 1:32:23
  was. It's unfortunate just how many
• 1:32:25
  people in general died, not just Jews, but just in general.
• 1:32:29
  Exactly, but people also have you know people also need to
• 1:32:34
  look at the other people who also died as you as you
• 1:32:38
  mentioned, but I guess. And the Allies were not in
• 1:32:45
  innocent of war crimes as well. I mean the bombing, the bombing
• 1:32:49
  of Germany was horrific. I mean I they would send what
• 1:32:56
  was it? They came in in two waves.
• 1:32:57
  Yeah, they came in two waves and they first dropped the blast
• 1:33:01
  bombs. They blanket bombed the entire
• 1:33:04
  cities and then they would leave them for an hour or so to let
• 1:33:07
  people start coming out of the shelters.
• 1:33:10
  And then they came in, they firebombed them and you would
• 1:33:14
  see like melted bodies in the streets.
• 1:33:16
  I've seen pictures. That's horrific.
• 1:33:18
  What and this was an allied attack on civilian targets.
• 1:33:23
  We we actually did that to them. And yeah, and also you can
• 1:33:29
  there's stories about General Patton and what was it?
• 1:33:32
  Sicily and there were a number of crimes of of Allied war
• 1:33:39
  crimes there and in. Italy, we like to talk about the
• 1:33:45
  Nazi concentration camps, but we almost never talk about the
• 1:33:48
  American concentration camps where we walked up the Japanese.
• 1:33:53
  We were doing almost the exact same thing.
• 1:33:55
  We almost were sending Japanese to death chambers.
• 1:33:58
  Unfortunately, you know, fortunately the war ended before
• 1:34:02
  it came to that. But we were well on the road.
• 1:34:04
  I've seen documentation from the American military where they
• 1:34:07
  were talking about doing that. Yeah, yeah, Horrific things that
• 1:34:17
  the Asian cultures do. Oh yes, we Oh yeah.
• 1:34:22
  Like the you know the massacre of Nat King is one of them and
• 1:34:27
  the the the like like like literally the Japanese did like
• 1:34:31
  this like this walking to death basically force all the prisoner
• 1:34:35
  war to like basically walks many miles without food and water.
• 1:34:39
  They would take bamboo and shove it under people's skin and then
• 1:34:44
  stick them in feces to get infections like they would.
• 1:34:50
  They would literally put them in the outhouses with open cuts all
• 1:34:55
  over them just to get an infection.
• 1:34:57
  They would leave them sit there while Japanese soldiers would
• 1:35:01
  come in, kiss and shit all over them.
• 1:35:04
  Yeah. And someone meant the the the
• 1:35:08
  Japanese as well. The the Japanese, I I would say
• 1:35:12
  they were almost what they did to the Chinese.
• 1:35:16
  And the Russians can't Unit 740-1751.
• 1:35:24
  Yes they did. A really unethical, like very
• 1:35:27
  fucked up experiment. And even to this day, even to
• 1:35:30
  this day, Japan and China are very cold to each other.
• 1:35:34
  You get racism on both sides, even though they're Asians.
• 1:35:37
  Into the outside world, you can't tell, you know, somebody
• 1:35:41
  like me or you know us. Here.
• 1:35:44
  We could hardly tell the difference between a Japanese, a
• 1:35:47
  Korean and a Chinaman. Yet they can tell with each
• 1:35:52
  other. They can, they can identify each
• 1:35:54
  other very quickly. And the racism that we see
• 1:36:00
  between them is astounding. You know that the, yeah, the
• 1:36:07
  Japanese hate Chinese, the Chinese hate Japanese, and the
• 1:36:11
  Koreans, they're stuck in the middle.
• 1:36:16
  And and divided North and South, they're, they're.
• 1:36:18
  Oh, yeah. Yes, exactly.
• 1:36:22
  Yep. Exactly, yeah.
• 1:36:25
  Things don't seem to be getting much better with the Biden and
• 1:36:28
  the the the situation there in the Middle East.
• 1:36:31
  Nothing has been better since when Biden got in.
• 1:36:35
  At least Donald Trump managed to walk into North Korea alongside
• 1:36:39
  Kim Jong Un. And.
• 1:36:41
  Start showing out the conflict there as soon as they got Trump
• 1:36:45
  out of office. All everything.
• 1:36:47
  Heated back. Up.
• 1:36:50
  Yeah, now everything's worse because it got sleepy.
• 1:36:53
  Joe going around, didn't take his damn pills going.
• 1:36:56
  I need that chocolate chocolate chip ice cream.
• 1:37:00
  He doesn't even get that out. He falls asleep before he says
• 1:37:03
  that. It melts.
• 1:37:06
  Yeah, yeah. Does everybody, can we have some
• 1:37:09
  chocolate, chocolate chip ice cream?
• 1:37:11
  So that way we can make him jealous.
• 1:37:12
  It's. Rough.
• 1:37:15
  It is very rough indeed. You know, you asked me.
• 1:37:18
  It was funny because you asked about how it was living under
• 1:37:21
  Trudeau. But, you know, so I used to
• 1:37:23
  think it was, it couldn't get any worse.
• 1:37:26
  But then when I look at how Biden runs the show, I think,
• 1:37:29
  you know what? I think I'll.
• 1:37:32
  I think I'll stay with it, you know, if I had to.
• 1:37:35
  Exactly, definitely. I was just.
• 1:37:36
  Looking at an old apartment of mine from back like 10 years ago
• 1:37:42
  when when I lived up in Pennsylvania and back then by
• 1:37:46
  the time I moved out of the apartment we were paying about
• 1:37:49
  8:50 a month for the apartment. It was a big three bedroom
• 1:37:54
  apartment. It was pretty sizable and we
• 1:37:58
  only had to pay about 800 bucks a month and I just looked it
• 1:38:02
  back up and its current rental rate is $1300 a month.
• 1:38:10
  Jeez, that's a big scam right there and nowadays.
• 1:38:13
  Well, come up, come up back. That's pretty normal nowadays,
• 1:38:16
  that's. It is.
• 1:38:18
  It's thanks to God. Damn inflation.
• 1:38:21
  You can add a another 500 for that and pay $1800 for a room.
• 1:38:31
  Exactly. And you know, it's it's
• 1:38:33
  absolutely ridiculous. You know, we're paying.
• 1:38:36
  You know, imagine that. Imagine you're a new Imagine
• 1:38:40
  you're just moving out. You go to college, you go to
• 1:38:43
  university, you're struggling, You're working 2-3 jobs on top
• 1:38:49
  of trying to take your classes, and then you can't live on
• 1:38:53
  campus for whatever reason. And so you're forced to rent an
• 1:38:57
  apartment and you're sitting there and you have to pay over
• 1:39:00
  $1000 a month when you can barely clear that just to feed
• 1:39:07
  yourself and pay your other bills.
• 1:39:10
  How do you manage that? Who knows really.
• 1:39:13
  Like, who fucking knows? I'll be right back.
• 1:39:17
  No problem man. What do you think, Brett, do you
• 1:39:19
  think? Do you think Bidenomics is
• 1:39:21
  working out? No, I knew before he even got
• 1:39:24
  voted and it was going to be shit.
• 1:39:26
  The guy was already showing symptoms of dementia and
• 1:39:30
  whatever else retardation he's got going on, so I knew it was
• 1:39:34
  going to be a shit sandwich without the bread before he even
• 1:39:37
  got voted then. Exactly.
• 1:39:38
  Like that's. The point Like everything that
• 1:39:41
  Biden is doing. And now you got like like these
• 1:39:44
  idiotic influencer like Dylan Naveen going to Joe Biden.
• 1:39:48
  And you could just have to tell Joe Biden's like, I will do what
• 1:39:51
  you told me to do, even though I have no idea what you're saying,
• 1:39:55
  but I'm going to do it anyway. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:39:59
  You know, I always thought Joe Biden when he said when he was
• 1:40:03
  first saying I'm running, I'm Joe Biden and I'm running for
• 1:40:06
  Senate. You're right there.
• 1:40:11
  I never got that. He also was opposed against gay
• 1:40:13
  marriage, too. He's also funded by the KKK.
• 1:40:18
  He was Joe makes. Sense 'cause he is a Democrat.
• 1:40:21
  You know, you look at Joe Biden's history like like all
• 1:40:24
  the things he was 4 back in the day and suddenly flip-flopped
• 1:40:29
  on. He makes, he makes Trump look
• 1:40:33
  like a a liberal, you know, today.
• 1:40:37
  Yeah, like Trump is more liberal.
• 1:40:38
  Yeah. Here to fucking Biden.
• 1:40:41
  Yeah, but you know, that's. That's something that a lot of
• 1:40:44
  the leftists don't seem to understand is the Democrats tend
• 1:40:49
  to flip, flop back and forth. The Democrats, they were the
• 1:40:52
  ones who founded the KKK. They were the ones who funded
• 1:40:55
  it, and they still have KKK members providing them funds
• 1:41:00
  today. A lot of people don't realize
• 1:41:02
  this. And Joe Biden, he's, there's
• 1:41:04
  plenty of pictures of him, him running around with.
• 1:41:07
  I don't, I don't know if it was one of their grand warlocks or
• 1:41:11
  cyclopses or whatnot, but he was a elderly man in a wheelchair
• 1:41:16
  and there's pictures of him and Joe Biden hanging out.
• 1:41:19
  And, you know, it's openly known that this guy who is a KKK, like
• 1:41:25
  grand wizard or warlock or whatever, and that he's funding
• 1:41:31
  them, he's funding Joe Biden whatnot.
• 1:41:34
  I think she is absolutely gorgeous.
• 1:41:37
  I wouldn't say no. I know she's a friend of yours.
• 1:41:40
  Same thing. I know she's a friend of yours,
• 1:41:42
  Brett, but she's good looking. What did that church say?
• 1:41:46
  Oh, it's it's kind of a thing Nicknamed People gave me a while
• 1:41:51
  back, so I ended up making a T-shirt of It's called Manatee
• 1:41:55
  Mayhem. Just like.
• 1:41:57
  Standing for price. Yeah, so there's.
• 1:42:01
  All I have to say is she is absolutely gorgeous.
• 1:42:03
  Well, you. Know why not?
• 1:42:05
  Here's my buddy TTR wearing another shirt of mine.
• 1:42:09
  Evolution is magic. I, like you need a fan that
• 1:42:13
  pumping around there. Oh, where's it hurry?
• 1:42:19
  That was the I'm. Going to take your guitar, use
• 1:42:20
  it as a flying broom. I'm going to shred on the air.
• 1:42:24
  And where do where do you get those at?
• 1:42:28
  What guitar? No, the the shirts.
• 1:42:31
  There's a link in the description for people who want
• 1:42:34
  to check out my merch. I don't just do shirts, I also
• 1:42:36
  got all kinds of other cool stuff too.
• 1:42:38
  But yeah, I got about 100 shirts I've designed and toys.
• 1:42:42
  Yep, Yep, Yep. Oh hey, if you want to learn a
• 1:42:45
  little bit about Anton Lavey, go down to Georgia to Gray Face
• 1:42:48
  Museum. Yes, a.
• 1:42:51
  Regular lives in Georgia. I'll definitely like to go
• 1:42:54
  there. Go to Georgia someday.
• 1:42:56
  Savannah, GA Gray Face Museum. You won't regret it.
• 1:42:59
  You want to learn about cult leaders, serial killers and
• 1:43:03
  Anton Lavey? That's the place to go.
• 1:43:06
  You know, it's an entire exhibit up over them.
• 1:43:09
  It's a shame that some crazy people decided to blow up the
• 1:43:13
  Georgia guidestones. I was planning to visit those.
• 1:43:16
  Yeah, they're. They were only like 15 minutes
• 1:43:19
  away from my house. Literally, that was 15 minutes
• 1:43:22
  away from me. And is there any plans on on
• 1:43:29
  rebuilding that? Or no, they're not going to
• 1:43:31
  rebuild them. They don't even know who funded
• 1:43:34
  them. The the company.
• 1:43:35
  The company that put them up still exists, but they their
• 1:43:39
  documentation. It was deliberately designed to
• 1:43:42
  be very cryptic, and it costs millions of dollars in donations
• 1:43:48
  from this anonymous source to even have them erected.
• 1:43:55
  You know it's a real shame when these these you know, these
• 1:44:01
  these kind of I I I'll just call them crazies.
• 1:44:03
  You know I don't like to go around insulting people but I
• 1:44:06
  think when you do something like that I mean they're stones that
• 1:44:11
  they're they're not I'm against globalism.
• 1:44:14
  I'm against all that. But I I genuinely, I think
• 1:44:21
  there's there's a lot to talk about with the stones, but I
• 1:44:24
  think you know the the stones that were just sitting there
• 1:44:30
  weren't doing anything. People really wanted to address
• 1:44:33
  something real. I'm not condoning anything by
• 1:44:36
  the way. I'm just saying, you know, it's
• 1:44:40
  a it's a pretty crazy thing to to do.
• 1:44:45
  Yeah, the stones were Rosicrucian had nothing to do
• 1:44:49
  with Satanism or devil worship. Yet a lot of people like to say
• 1:44:53
  that they were, but they were Rosicrucian in nature, which
• 1:44:56
  means they were more like Christian sorcery.
• 1:44:59
  Well you know a lot of people, well a lot of the kind of the, I
• 1:45:05
  don't want, I don't like to say everyone, but there's a lot of
• 1:45:10
  anti Mormon propaganda that like the the cartoons that you can
• 1:45:16
  see on YouTube. It said like it's I think an
• 1:45:20
  evangelical cartoon that that has a lot of misinformation that
• 1:45:31
  says that that really distorts things such as with Jesus and
• 1:45:38
  Lucifer being brothers, Miss portraying that as well.
• 1:45:45
  All of the all of the spirits in heaven were spiritual, you know
• 1:45:51
  children. So they were all siblings, just
• 1:45:55
  like all human beings are technically we believe, spirit
• 1:46:00
  children, so everyone is a brother and sister.
• 1:46:03
  But it's it's a shame when people distort the truth.
• 1:46:11
  What do you what do you think the truth is, the reality of it?
• 1:46:14
  I've seen the cartoon where all the gods are sitting around the
• 1:46:17
  table and they're chilling out. And then Satan turns all red and
• 1:46:21
  grows horns and it gets all metal.
• 1:46:24
  Like all of a sudden it's like, yeah, right, So what?
• 1:46:27
  What's your view? What's the right representation?
• 1:46:31
  Well, so that is like I said that the the they're they're not
• 1:46:40
  lying in the sense that Jesus and Lucifer, before he was
• 1:46:45
  turned into Satan, were brothers and so were a third of the hosts
• 1:46:49
  of heaven, but all of the other spirit children were brothers
• 1:46:55
  and sisters, if that makes sense.
• 1:46:59
  So they're just singling out Jesus and Lucifer to kind of
• 1:47:03
  make it sound like they were. Now the plan of salvation was
• 1:47:09
  presented for all of humanity. This is before Adam and Eve
• 1:47:12
  Well. In the cartoon it said in all
• 1:47:15
  the gods spoke amongst themselves and they were
• 1:47:18
  debating these different issues and there was something that the
• 1:47:22
  devil did or the Mormon version of the devil that caused him to
• 1:47:27
  become this like monstrous looking thing.
• 1:47:30
  So how do you see it though? What?
• 1:47:32
  What actually happened according to you?
• 1:47:35
  Well, what happened was that there was a proposal, there was
• 1:47:40
  a it was called the Heavenly council and basically this was
• 1:47:44
  before Genesis, before the earth was even created.
• 1:47:48
  And the plan was what are we going to do for the the first
• 1:47:53
  creating humans of the physical body for the spirits to dwell in
• 1:47:58
  and the the all of the at the Heavenly Council.
• 1:48:03
  They had agreed with Jesus Christ being the Savior and
• 1:48:09
  giving humans free will to do right and wrong and to reject
• 1:48:13
  salvation or to choose it. Lucifer wanted everyone to
• 1:48:21
  become gods again. This is our beliefs.
• 1:48:25
  Not everyone can choose. Whatever they want, that's.
• 1:48:32
  I'm sorry for interrupting you there.
• 1:48:34
  That's actually pretty close in line to what Satanic philosophy
• 1:48:38
  says, by the way. Oh, what's also odd though is
• 1:48:42
  from what I've read about Mormons, you guys do believe
• 1:48:46
  that you eventually become gods after you die.
• 1:48:49
  Not angels, but actual gods who own can create your own
• 1:48:53
  universes in the world. So it sounds to me like your
• 1:48:56
  version of Satan actually won in this concept.
• 1:49:00
  Well, so the concept of free will is where he rebelled and
• 1:49:05
  was cast out. So we have the free will to
• 1:49:08
  choose to reach to to. It's it's it's not everyone just
• 1:49:14
  gets the power. That's what exaltation is.
• 1:49:16
  Is is being reaching an exalted state of God Godhood basically
• 1:49:24
  of divinity as God or Elohim is God the Father and having that
• 1:49:33
  progression after afterwards and after which we would have the
• 1:49:40
  same ability to do. It says as man was God is and as
• 1:49:46
  God is, man can be. If I remember that cartoon
• 1:49:52
  accurately, and it has been a while, so you have to crack me
• 1:49:56
  on this because I've also looked at the Jehovah Witness comic
• 1:49:59
  books and cartoons as well. Pretty neat stuff.
• 1:50:02
  But the Mormon cartoon, that same cartoon, didn't it
• 1:50:06
  represent that all the bad people turned black?
• 1:50:13
  So that's where they that that's that's where they're presenting
• 1:50:17
  that falsely. It says that the there was a
• 1:50:21
  they were placed with a mark. Now that is a spiritual mark.
• 1:50:29
  We don't. Yeah, but in the cartoon, they
• 1:50:31
  actually all turn black. Right.
• 1:50:34
  Does it actually say a spiritual mark, not a physical mark?
• 1:50:37
  Or just does it say mark? Well, in the cartoon, they
• 1:50:40
  actually all turn physically. Yeah, the cartoon they all turn
• 1:50:44
  into black people and it says that this is the what the
• 1:50:47
  Mormons belief is the cause for the the black.
• 1:50:51
  I think that's what they said. Well that's sort of similar to
• 1:50:55
  what we say about the mark of Kane, that the mark of Kane is
• 1:50:59
  actually a sigil or anything. It's the physical likeness to
• 1:51:05
  Lucifer, being that Lucifer was blonde haired, blue eyed and
• 1:51:09
  white skinned while the rest of the people in that part of the
• 1:51:12
  world were very swarthy and dark skinned and colored, dark eyed,
• 1:51:15
  dark haired. So it sort of tracks with that.
• 1:51:21
  Well, in the I'm going to just read a short thing, if you don't
• 1:51:25
  mind, From the The Book of Mormon, Second Nephi, from the
• 1:51:31
  original version that I have. I have an old an older version
• 1:51:36
  says. And then shall they rejoice, for
• 1:51:39
  they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand
• 1:51:43
  of God, and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall
• 1:51:47
  from their eyes, and many generations shall not pass away
• 1:51:51
  among them, save they shall be a white and delightsome people.
• 1:52:00
  Now that that's where the interpretations can kind of go
• 1:52:07
  into Is that about race? Is that about physical
• 1:52:11
  appearance? But that's where that comes
• 1:52:14
  from. Could you go ahead and repeat
• 1:52:16
  that again because I don't quite think I got all of it.
• 1:52:27
  And then shall they rejoice, for they shall know that it is a
• 1:52:31
  blessing unto them from the hand of God.
• 1:52:35
  And their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their
• 1:52:38
  eyes, and many generations shall not pass among them, or pass
• 1:52:43
  away among them, save they shall be a white and delightsome
• 1:52:48
  people. Well, actually, I don't think
• 1:52:53
  that has any sort of kind of nation to race or physical
• 1:52:55
  appearance at all that that describes as just more or less
• 1:53:00
  to me and people can correct me if I'm wrong.
• 1:53:02
  That says that just like how most Christians say that unless
• 1:53:06
  you accept God, you're blind to the truth, and scales of
• 1:53:09
  darkness don't sound more like if you're describing cataracts
• 1:53:13
  or something like that. I I myself haven't got too much
• 1:53:18
  into this, but usually on a biblical level it's described
• 1:53:22
  that the different races came from the Tower of Babel as
• 1:53:26
  people started spreading out all over the world and based upon
• 1:53:29
  the environment, the weather, sun, cold rain, winter and all
• 1:53:33
  that. This is the reason why we skin a
• 1:53:37
  chains of different people at one time.
• 1:53:39
  We all spoke the same language, but our tongue was confused
• 1:53:44
  because of God, remember? Yeah.
• 1:53:46
  Yeah, and that, ironically, that story really doesn't talk about
• 1:53:51
  different races. It just says that the people of
• 1:53:53
  Babel were scattered to the ends of the Earth and they're their
• 1:53:58
  languages were confused. But the logical thing right
• 1:54:01
  there would be that due to their environment, they would have
• 1:54:04
  changed. Appearance, right?
• 1:54:07
  Wasn't that they were evil or, you know, did something wrong or
• 1:54:11
  kicked the double in the foot or something like that.
• 1:54:13
  It's just that different. Environment the I was sorry,
• 1:54:17
  Brett. The irony of the story of Babel
• 1:54:20
  isn't is that they they wanted to go see God in heaven.
• 1:54:24
  They were trying to build a way to go to heaven to actually see
• 1:54:28
  God in person. And so it wasn't really them
• 1:54:32
  trying to be defiant or anything from my understanding the story
• 1:54:35
  of Abel, they were, they were trying to be, you know, they
• 1:54:39
  were trying to go see their God and actually be with God.
• 1:54:44
  And in turn, he, they, the tower was struck down and they were
• 1:54:49
  punished for wanting to go visit their God and whatnot.
• 1:54:52
  That's my understanding of it. I know Christians will say no,
• 1:54:56
  they were trying to be like God. They were trying to build a
• 1:54:59
  tower up to be above God or whatnot and be as gods.
• 1:55:03
  And it's like I didn't take that from that story at all.
• 1:55:06
  Well, you know, here's here's something interesting.
• 1:55:09
  I don't know Brett or anyone else here.
• 1:55:12
  If you're familiar with in Mormonism, we believe that.
• 1:55:17
  And this is in the the Book of Mormon that it was actually a
• 1:55:21
  good thing that Eve ate the apple.
• 1:55:25
  Well, ate from the Tree of Knowledge, because if she didn't
• 1:55:28
  then none of us would be here right now.
• 1:55:33
  I hear you there. Because we would not have known
• 1:55:36
  any number one, we wouldn't. They wouldn't have had any
• 1:55:39
  offspring and. It was because they were
• 1:55:44
  inevitably they were immortal. So immortals.
• 1:55:48
  I mean if I don't know how many out there.
• 1:55:50
  Like, just to simplify this, if you've ever seen the Highlander
• 1:55:54
  or Dracula movie, The reason why Dracula or Highland, because
• 1:55:59
  they're immortal, so their body can't produce the if they had
• 1:56:03
  something in their womb, it wouldn't grow or formulate.
• 1:56:07
  Does that make sense, folks trying to keep it simple?
• 1:56:09
  It does that. That's actually it.
• 1:56:11
  Makes sense. But you know, I I don't think
• 1:56:14
  anywhere in the Bible does it say that they were immortal.
• 1:56:19
  Nor does it say that they couldn't have kids while they
• 1:56:21
  were in the garden. Just simply, well, they.
• 1:56:23
  They didn't have so they they wouldn't have had.
• 1:56:26
  I will say this is that it's it's very highly suggested.
• 1:56:30
  I mean, well it also doesn't mention Lilith, but that's
• 1:56:33
  another topic. But.
• 1:56:35
  It does in the Rabbinical legend.
• 1:56:38
  It also mentions it in older Bibles.
• 1:56:40
  In the book of Isaiah, her name still is brought up by name.
• 1:56:45
  Yeah, yeah, but. And in Rabbinical or rabbinical
• 1:56:49
  lore, she was the first wife of Adam before Eve.
• 1:56:53
  That's right. And then and in Mormonism her
• 1:56:56
  role and as well as with the Books of Enoch, which are not in
• 1:57:05
  the standard Christian Bible, to my knowledge, give more
• 1:57:10
  information about what happened before the flood but before I
• 1:57:14
  without I don't want to do, I don't want to digress, but as
• 1:57:18
  Brett was saying, because of the immortality issue, without the,
• 1:57:27
  you know, the the point of of human life, at least from the
• 1:57:32
  our perspective, is that we live for a certain amount of time,
• 1:57:37
  die, and then the soul goes on and then ideally would reach an
• 1:57:44
  exalted state and become like God and then go on from there
• 1:57:50
  kind. Of Call it the glorified body.
• 1:57:53
  That's right, let me. Ask you a question there, man.
• 1:57:59
  Just really quickly sticking with the whole Genesis story and
• 1:58:03
  you mentioned that it was a good thing that he didn't listen to
• 1:58:07
  God or Adam and actually aid of the fruit of knowledge.
• 1:58:11
  What do you think of the part of Genesis where God tells Adam
• 1:58:16
  that if he eats of the fruit he will die within that day?
• 1:58:22
  He doesn't mind you when I say this.
• 1:58:25
  I point out that in the Bible he doesn't say he will die a
• 1:58:29
  spiritual death. He doesn't say that you will
• 1:58:31
  suddenly become mortal and eventually die.
• 1:58:35
  He says you will surely die within that day, meaning you
• 1:58:39
  know it. To me, it's quite literal that
• 1:58:42
  he's going to die within 24 hours.
• 1:58:46
  What is? What do you take from that and
• 1:58:50
  what do you take from the notion that that didn't happen that God
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  in if that notion was that was very literal and very correct
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  that Adam and Eve proved God wrong in that instance and or
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  even proved God to be a liar in that instance, what what would
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  you take from that? What's your, what's your
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  personal take on that? Go ahead.
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  Well, one is the translation of you, whether or not it was
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  directed as that direct you to the person or to the people.
• 1:59:26
  Meaning you as in this current state, as in you will die, which
• 1:59:34
  their the garden, their existence would die, which did
• 1:59:38
  happen or that it was meaning your your current state die,
• 1:59:49
  which happened. The other is that Adam.
• 1:59:53
  There's the Adam God doctrine, which is that Adam fulfilled his
• 1:59:59
  purpose at that point and Adam was exalted.
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  Adam did die and was resurrected as the God of humanity and
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  became a God himself at that point, fulfilling his purpose.
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  No, really quickly there's we're talking straight in the Bible in
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  the book of Genesis here. I'm I'm not sure what other
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  books you're referencing when you talk about that one, but
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  that's not mentioned in the book of Genesis from my
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  understanding. Well, you're you're absolutely
• 2:00:35
  right that a lot of that information isn't in Genesis.
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  Unfortunately, and I maybe unfortunately is not the right
• 2:00:43
  word to use for it. But the Bible tends to explain
• 2:00:48
  things as it goes along, and unfortunately, sometimes you
• 2:00:51
  have to go to another book and another book and.
• 2:00:54
  I found that you're correct on. That as far as as far as the
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  just real quick the reason why a lot of Christians or
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  denominations out there suggests that Adam and Eve there wasn't
• 2:01:07
  like pain and suffering and death because it says that when
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  God created them they were perfect, the world was perfect,
• 2:01:13
  they were perfect and it wasn't until they ate from the tree.
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  It wasn't so much eating from the tree, but it was disobeying
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  God that caused death and sin to come in the world, where
• 2:01:25
  everything started to break down through entropy, if that makes
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  sense. It does make sense and I just
• 2:01:31
  want to add this is another reason why I don't why I'm
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  pretty sure they would not have had children, is that God came
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  and he asked them why they were why they were ashamed of their
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  nakedness. Because if you recall that they
• 2:01:47
  covered up their their nakedness after knowing of the the tree of
• 2:01:52
  knowledge of Good and evil. And this shows they would not
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  have even known about sexuality to me.
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  Because they didn't even know that being naked was an issue
• 2:02:06
  before then. And then suddenly they were, you
• 2:02:09
  know, concerned about this. They were ashamed of that or
• 2:02:12
  they were, you know, they had, they knew about sexuality, in
• 2:02:17
  other words, so they wouldn't have, they wouldn't have gone on
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  to reproduce, have, have children and I think that.
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  And also. They would have.
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  Been kept in every will, we would have had free will to be
• 2:02:35
  able to see good from evil, right and wrong, all that our
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  moral system. Exactly, exactly.
• 2:02:41
  So they would have been kept and deliver ignorance.
• 2:02:45
  They would have been like the Potamus, like the simply vessels
• 2:02:49
  walking around with nothing. A God actually, even before they
• 2:02:53
  ate the tree, he gave them information that they could have
• 2:02:57
  the possibility of disobeying by simply suggesting if you eat
• 2:03:01
  from that tree, then you're disobeying me and you're doing
• 2:03:04
  something wrong. Eat whatever you want, but don't
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  touch that. God is instilling the
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  information into them before they even did it.
• 2:03:12
  They're being given knowledge by God.
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  But they're being given specific knowledge and withheld from
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  other knowledge. But that's my point right there
• 2:03:21
  is that in that moment, and you make a very good point there,
• 2:03:24
  Brett God instilled information to Adam when he was talking
• 2:03:29
  about that and he ordered Adam to instill all the same
• 2:03:32
  information to Eve. And part of that information was
• 2:03:36
  a deception. He didn't, he didn't give a
• 2:03:39
  clear cut full explanation. He just simply said, within that
• 2:03:45
  day you shall surely die. Nothing more than that.
• 2:03:49
  And you can check that in the Bible yourself.
• 2:03:52
  And right there that's a deception because we know from
• 2:03:56
  the Bible in the same story that Adam and Eve did not die within
• 2:04:00
  that day. They went on to live for
• 2:04:02
  thousands of years. Well, again, many numerous
• 2:04:05
  children and their children lived for hundreds of years.
• 2:04:09
  It's also important to know a couple of things, like I was
• 2:04:12
  saying, knowing the reading it in the original Hebrew #1 #2
• 2:04:18
  keeping in mind. Actually it was Aramaic, not
• 2:04:20
  Hebrew. Knowing the concept of of day
• 2:04:26
  that it was used in that sense was still being used in that in
• 2:04:34
  in Genesis at that time it. I'm not saying this is fact.
• 2:04:38
  I'm just saying as a as a theory anyway because no one is exactly
• 2:04:43
  sure. I I think that's a possibility.
• 2:04:48
  And also just the fact that there's many things we don't
• 2:04:52
  know for sure. And I think that the fact that
• 2:04:57
  God gave the information and had it planned out and and keeping
• 2:05:06
  in mind the the whole point of making people and keeping you
• 2:05:10
  know, the veil of forgetfulness, I think that that that kind of
• 2:05:17
  track if if that makes sense. Yeah, I, I want to point out
• 2:05:21
  then Brett brought that up before from God 777.
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  Brett, could you bring that back up, please so people can see it?
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  It's. One God about go forth and
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  multiply. Yeah, actually, and this is
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  really good. Thank you one God 777 for
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  pointing this out before Adam and Eve.
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  Eve and eight of the Fruit of Knowledge.
• 2:05:42
  You mentioned that they couldn't reproduce or anything.
• 2:05:45
  This was something that God told Adam and Eve to do, to go forth
• 2:05:49
  and multiply within the garden. So he was already telling them
• 2:05:53
  to have children so they could have children.
• 2:05:55
  Why? I think this was actually after
• 2:05:58
  they did the tree, after he punished the woman with labor
• 2:06:02
  pains and told the man that he would be working the fields, all
• 2:06:05
  of his existence and all that. He then told them that, you
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  know, they were going to leave paradise.
• 2:06:11
  An Angel would stand guard and he said bear fruit and multiply.
• 2:06:15
  And that's where we start seeing children coming into the
• 2:06:17
  picture, The whole Cain and Abel and then Seth.
• 2:06:21
  I'm sure you guys heard of Seth, right?
• 2:06:25
  Yeah that's this was this was that's a good quote verse there
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  actually that was that was right after they were.
• 2:06:36
  I'd have to double check, but I believe on a personal note, I
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  have to disagree. I think that was before, but you
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  know it. It'd be good.
• 2:06:43
  I could be wrong. That up and and we could maybe
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  I'll get that straightened. Let me go ahead and look it up.
• 2:06:54
  I think that's then. Let me see here.
• 2:06:56
  And it's just three. No, Genesis 27 has Cain.
• 2:07:07
  Genesis 128. Then God told them, and God said
• 2:07:11
  to them, be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and
• 2:07:14
  subdue it, have dominion over the fish, the sea, over the
• 2:07:18
  birds in the air, and over all living things.
• 2:07:23
  So that's in the first chapter, the 28th verse.
• 2:07:27
  So no, this was before Adam and Eve broke trust with God.
• 2:07:35
  Well, chapter 2 has Cain and then Abel.
• 2:07:38
  So what? What was preceding that?
• 2:07:41
  Well this is in chapter one. Chapter one, verse 28 of Genesis
• 2:07:46
  is that statement and it says then God bless them and God said
• 2:07:53
  to them be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and
• 2:07:56
  subdue it, have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the
• 2:08:01
  birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the
• 2:08:04
  earth. Let me pull that's.
• 2:08:10
  Genesis 128. 128. Yeah, let.
• 2:08:14
  Me see here. Sorry, I have.
• 2:08:17
  I have the most powerful tool tool at my disposal right now,
• 2:08:22
  and that's the Internet. Yeah, I I I'm old fashioned.
• 2:08:25
  I have the the physical physical book.
• 2:08:38
  Thankfully, it's easy to find third page.
• 2:08:42
  What? What version of the Bible do you
• 2:08:44
  have? The JST The Joseph Smith
• 2:08:48
  translation. OK, so you have a Mormon
• 2:08:52
  version. Which is which is very close to.
• 2:08:54
  We also I also use the King James Version.
• 2:08:59
  A lot of people would hate that. That was the one I was raised
• 2:09:02
  on, though. Go ahead, Devin.
• 2:09:09
  I have a friend who has like a like a really big book, has like
• 2:09:13
  all the bibles a hint to one like he his other friend gave
• 2:09:17
  him to it. It was like a big book and he
• 2:09:18
  doesn't know where to put it. Now, like I said, I can just
• 2:09:26
  look up on Google the. Part God said to them, be
• 2:09:39
  fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth.
• 2:09:43
  What I'm reading here in the the notes underneath is that this is
• 2:09:48
  referring to the Now now this is again up for interpretation, But
• 2:09:55
  that this is talking about the things that they have dominion
• 2:10:00
  over at the time, says to be fruitful and multiply and
• 2:10:04
  replenish the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the
• 2:10:07
  fish of the sea, over the fowl of the air, and over every
• 2:10:10
  living thing that moveth upon it.
• 2:10:13
  Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, and which is
• 2:10:16
  upon the face of the earth, so. I.
• 2:10:19
  So this is part of where God is teaching Adam, and so the Garden
• 2:10:25
  of Eden in this instance, if I'm understanding it, if I'm
• 2:10:29
  understanding this interpretation correctly, was
• 2:10:31
  that the Garden of Eden was the earth itself.
• 2:10:36
  Yes, we do believe that that that that the earth was at the.
• 2:10:44
  Which doesn't really make, if you really think about it, that
• 2:10:47
  sort of runs contradictory to what happens later on where the
• 2:10:50
  Garden of Eden. If they're kicked out of the
• 2:10:53
  Garden of Eden, and the Garden of Eden is Earth, then what
• 2:10:57
  happened? And how?
• 2:10:58
  How did they get kicked out of Earth, yet still be of Earth?
• 2:11:02
  Well, if you consider it's. A really complicated issue right
• 2:11:06
  there, and that's something that I'm not sure I could fully
• 2:11:09
  understand either. Well, there I I do think there
• 2:11:12
  are some things that we can't really understand in our current
• 2:11:16
  state, but I do think that that that it was a different plane of
• 2:11:23
  existence and that. And this is where science can't
• 2:11:28
  quantify it. And this is where theistic
• 2:11:32
  understanding and study comes in.
• 2:11:35
  I I think, I think science, science could like, I mean if
• 2:11:40
  you you look at the different states that Earth has existed in
• 2:11:43
  before like I, I, we don't deny there were that the Earth is you
• 2:11:52
  know millions of years old. Well, that depends.
• 2:11:57
  Which is the nomination? That depends.
• 2:11:59
  I've actually have Christian friends.
• 2:12:01
  One of them that hosts my show actually believes the Earth is
• 2:12:05
  under 10,000 years old. I, however, I'm an Earth
• 2:12:08
  creationist. Yeah, I'm a younger creationist,
• 2:12:12
  though. Say that again, Brett.
• 2:12:15
  I didn't quite understand you. My friend is a young Earth
• 2:12:19
  creationist where he believes the world is much younger than
• 2:12:22
  what scientists claim. However, I am what you call an
• 2:12:26
  old Earth creationist. I don't really believe that's
• 2:12:29
  billions of years old, but I will not go under 10,000 years.
• 2:12:33
  That's just that's just too too much for me.
• 2:12:37
  Yeah, I'm of the belief that the age of the earth and the age of
• 2:12:43
  humanity are two different things.
• 2:12:45
  Evolution is another thing I believe and and you can actually
• 2:12:53
  do a search and you can divide the the number of humans and and
• 2:12:59
  go back generations and you can see that the age of humanity can
• 2:13:03
  go back to around. Wait a minute here Michael.
• 2:13:07
  Are you stating that evolution and creation coincide with each
• 2:13:12
  other? No, what I mean is that I think
• 2:13:17
  that that the Earth could be a billions of years old, but
• 2:13:21
  humanity could could still be 10,015 thousand, however many
• 2:13:28
  years old. I believe the current estimate
• 2:13:32
  in science is that humanity is only about 130,000 years old as
• 2:13:38
  we under as we are now, not not going back any further to
• 2:13:44
  evolution, but as a homo sapien is now like you and me that that
• 2:13:52
  dates back to about 130,000 years.
• 2:13:56
  Right. In other words, we weren't.
• 2:13:58
  I don't believe in the evolution that we came from fish to, you
• 2:14:04
  know, Neanderthal, all this kind of stuff from millions of years.
• 2:14:09
  But I do think the Earth is millions of years old, if that
• 2:14:12
  makes more sense. Well, Neanderthal was actually a
• 2:14:17
  different species of human. We we were.
• 2:14:21
  We walked side by side with each other.
• 2:14:23
  Neanderthal And I forget what our branch of humanity is
• 2:14:29
  called. We were just like how you would
• 2:14:32
  have lions and tigers. They're both still cats, but
• 2:14:36
  they're two totally different big cats.
• 2:14:38
  And they are. They have two physically
• 2:14:40
  different body appearances, yet they could interbreed with each
• 2:14:44
  other if they really needed to. They science, actually, yeah.
• 2:14:49
  Science has proven that our our branch line of humanity did
• 2:14:53
  indeed breed with Neanderthal. And we're still you're different
• 2:14:58
  species of human. It's kind of like the Nephilim
• 2:15:02
  if you read giants. Yeah.
• 2:15:05
  But it's it's a lot different than saying that every you know
• 2:15:09
  we we can't we we mutated from rats and larvae and all kinds
• 2:15:15
  of. It's it's definitely.
• 2:15:20
  See, my personal belief is that you can only go back so far
• 2:15:26
  before The Big Bang happens, and then you have to have faith to
• 2:15:29
  explain that. Science can explain quite a bit
• 2:15:33
  after the big, Big Bang, but where science fails, that's
• 2:15:37
  where we need religion and theism to sort of try to fill in
• 2:15:41
  the gaps. It's not always going to be
• 2:15:43
  accurate, but we can at least try to fill in the gaps with it.
• 2:15:48
  Does that mean that we need to be atheists?
• 2:15:50
  No, actually, quite the opposite.
• 2:15:52
  Does that mean that we need to be hardcore theists?
• 2:15:55
  Absolutely not, because then we're just talking stupidity.
• 2:15:59
  We need to be pragmatists. And it doesn't matter what
• 2:16:02
  religion you have, it doesn't matter what belief you have.
• 2:16:05
  You could be a Christian, you could be a Mormon, you could be
• 2:16:07
  a you could be a Satanist, you could be a Wiccan.
• 2:16:10
  Doesn't matter. As long as you are a pragmatist
• 2:16:13
  and use your religion, your faith to help fill in the gaps
• 2:16:19
  where logic and science cannot explain, then I think you're
• 2:16:24
  doing pretty good. You guys realize that there's
• 2:16:28
  absolutely no way the atheist will ever be able to answer the
• 2:16:32
  issue of The Big Bang? Because it doesn't.
• 2:16:35
  There's no naturalistic explanation.
• 2:16:37
  Michael, would you like to, Would you like to hear an
• 2:16:40
  example of something? And this is something I used on
• 2:16:43
  non Believers whenever I'm showing them that the universe
• 2:16:46
  has a supernatural origin. I could do this really fast and
• 2:16:50
  you'll probably go wow. You ready?
• 2:16:52
  Yeah. So nature obviously had a if The
• 2:16:56
  Big Bang is true, then this means that all space-time and
• 2:16:59
  matter came into existence. That would mean that nature had
• 2:17:03
  a beginning to Nature didn't create itself.
• 2:17:06
  Now if this is true that nature at a beginning, that means there
• 2:17:10
  was a point where there was no laws of nature by definition.
• 2:17:13
  What is the definition of supernatural?
• 2:17:16
  Anybody. I'm looking.
• 2:17:20
  Something up so. OK, so the definition of
• 2:17:24
  supernatural for anybody out there who doesn't feel like
• 2:17:27
  looking in your dictionary. Right now.
• 2:17:29
  It's some as a process or system that acts outside of the laws of
• 2:17:34
  nature. Now if you believe in The Big
• 2:17:36
  Bang theory, and most atheists do as well as religious people,
• 2:17:41
  then you believe in a supernatural origin and you'll
• 2:17:44
  never. It's impossible to have a
• 2:17:46
  naturalistic explanation for that.
• 2:17:48
  And guess what folks, The Big Bang Theory actually was come up
• 2:17:52
  by or invented by a priest who also worked with Albert
• 2:17:57
  Einstein. Some people don't know that.
• 2:18:00
  And Albert Einstein? Contrary to what some people
• 2:18:03
  believe, he was not an atheist by any stretch of the
• 2:18:06
  imagination. No, he wasn't.
• 2:18:09
  I actually made AI actually made AT shirt about this this thing
• 2:18:14
  that I'm about to put on the screen.
• 2:18:15
  What's that say? The more I study science, the
• 2:18:20
  more I believe in God. Albert Einstein.
• 2:18:22
  And you'll notice I also have the page numbers, the resources,
• 2:18:26
  and all that. Unlike our atheist friends who
• 2:18:28
  like to generate false memes, I actually put sources with it.
• 2:18:32
  How about that? Hey, Brett, can I quickly show
• 2:18:35
  something? Sure what you got for me, guy
• 2:18:38
  all? Right, let me see here from my
• 2:18:43
  computer upload file. I need to give me a quick
• 2:18:49
  second. I got to go into the cloven.
• 2:19:01
  Hoof. Well, while our while our buddy
• 2:19:03
  Lucifer's getting that all set up and everything, I will say
• 2:19:07
  this some. Christians.
• 2:19:09
  Oh man, it wants a smaller file size.
• 2:19:11
  Damn it. OK, I I just need to do some
• 2:19:14
  shit. I can't upload any pictures.
• 2:19:17
  Never mind. I was going to show you
• 2:19:19
  something from The Cloven Hook, which is an article that we
• 2:19:21
  wrote for The Cloven Hook that covers the whole Big Bang and
• 2:19:25
  atheists can't explain it theory from before.
• 2:19:29
  What was that, though? You were about to say Something
• 2:19:32
  about the Christians? Some Christians.
• 2:19:35
  OK, so the thing that a lot of Christians and atheists haven't
• 2:19:39
  for some reason, nobody's talking about this, but I'm a
• 2:19:42
  big fan of science as well as theology, and scientists are now
• 2:19:46
  claiming the universe is quadruple the amount that we've
• 2:19:50
  been told for the last 100 years.
• 2:19:52
  Now it's going from 1316 billion years old to 30 billion years
• 2:19:58
  old. And the reason why they're
• 2:20:00
  trying to stretch out the time is to give evolution more time
• 2:20:04
  to be able to make sense. The Earth they're claiming may
• 2:20:08
  go from 4.5 billion years to 15. Billion years old.
• 2:20:13
  So they're stretching out the time because of that new
• 2:20:16
  telescope they got where they're seeing weird stuff going on in
• 2:20:19
  the anomalies they didn't know about before.
• 2:20:21
  It's turned science upside down. How about that?
• 2:20:27
  You know, I always say that one of these days that if science,
• 2:20:32
  if, if a lot of these scientists were, you know, had had a bit
• 2:20:35
  more integrity and and we're looking for real things.
• 2:20:39
  Instead of wasting so much time, you know, messing around and and
• 2:20:43
  trying to figure out, you know, what the definition of a woman
• 2:20:46
  was, then I think that they would find some really
• 2:20:52
  interesting things and we could really start progressing a lot
• 2:20:55
  more, you know, with. OK, I think I can share my
• 2:20:57
  screen. All right, let's see what you
• 2:21:00
  got there, Guy. All right.
• 2:21:02
  Let's see what we've got. That's what I like to say.
• 2:21:07
  Let's see what we got. All right, So what you're
• 2:21:10
  looking at here is the Clothing Hoof magazine.
• 2:21:13
  This is a magazine that I produce that we took over from
• 2:21:16
  the church, Satan. They don't like the fact that we
• 2:21:19
  took it over from them, but they weren't using it and we took it
• 2:21:22
  over legally. This is an article from IT
• 2:21:26
  covering the exact topic that you are that we are talking
• 2:21:31
  about here. Shameless plug for my friend
• 2:21:34
  Venture Satana, so by the way. Or his his game which is Chalt.
• 2:21:44
  But this article covers exactly what we're talking about here
• 2:21:49
  with the Do Me A. Favor and put the picture right
• 2:21:54
  on that right picture of The Big Bang, because I'm going to show
• 2:21:57
  you something after you get done talking.
• 2:22:00
  On the right hand picture. Yeah, the one that's an example
• 2:22:04
  of the singularity creating the expanding universe, The Big
• 2:22:08
  Bang. Over on your right side, OK.
• 2:22:12
  Let. Me.
• 2:22:13
  Get over here. That way, that way you all can
• 2:22:17
  see exactly what I was talking about, and some of you out there
• 2:22:21
  might be shocked and want to use the argument that I gave you.
• 2:22:24
  Now look at this. That thing that's got the red
• 2:22:27
  circles around it That's described as the pulsating
• 2:22:31
  singularity where all energy, matter, time, and space came
• 2:22:34
  from. Notice it is before the
• 2:22:37
  illustration of the universe coming into existence.
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  That means that it acted and was processing before time itself
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  and matter and nature therefore make the supernatural.
• 2:22:50
  You can see it for yourself, even though it's abruptly.
• 2:22:54
  The and what this article what this article is talking about.
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  Let me get back up here. If you want, I can read the
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  article for everybody, but basically what it's talking
• 2:23:10
  about. It's explaining that science can
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  only go back so far and explain things logically so far without,
• 2:23:25
  you know, any help. But at some point, science stops
• 2:23:30
  to functioning, it stops making sense, and all you have is
• 2:23:38
  rational, supposition, theory, and the forbidden word in
• 2:23:44
  atheism, faith. You can only describe something
• 2:23:50
  in existence going back to that one singularity point.
• 2:23:54
  Because beyond that point, nothing existed.
• 2:23:58
  Nothing that we can understand existed.
• 2:24:01
  And this is what we call the void, the you know, space.
• 2:24:06
  Beyond space it's empty. And where nothing, you know,
• 2:24:11
  how, how do you, how does something come into existence
• 2:24:15
  when nothing existed to create it from?
• 2:24:18
  And so you know, this is where having religious faith comes in,
• 2:24:22
  and well, something had to come into existence from nothingness.
• 2:24:28
  What was it? Or or it has to be.
• 2:24:32
  The prime mover, has to be eternal.
• 2:24:35
  It is something that's not constrained by time, which would
• 2:24:38
  be one of the traits of God, wouldn't it?
• 2:24:40
  It would be. Well then comes here comes the
• 2:24:42
  question. Who created God?
• 2:24:46
  Well, that God created man. Who created God?
• 2:24:49
  Well, that would be the point that he existed outside of the
• 2:24:52
  constraints of time. It means that he was.
• 2:24:55
  Never. That would mean that something
• 2:24:56
  else existed out of the constraints of time too.
• 2:24:59
  And that's well, it's the big question right there.
• 2:25:03
  And that's this is the this is the whole debate that science
• 2:25:08
  cannot answer. And that's the whole point of
• 2:25:11
  this. I think with with Mormonism our
• 2:25:15
  unique take on this is that before our God there was he was
• 2:25:21
  created and it it's sort of an eternal progression that we
• 2:25:28
  really don't know the beginning of and and and I think that I
• 2:25:33
  that that explanation that we don't really that we don't know
• 2:25:41
  what happened before and before it's an eternal thing that we
• 2:25:48
  kind of well. I I don't know how the Mormon
• 2:25:51
  book tries to describe God's traits or whatever, but in the
• 2:25:55
  in the Christian literature it's usually described by definition
• 2:25:59
  that one of the perks of being God is your eternal that you've
• 2:26:03
  always existed. You were, you were not created
• 2:26:05
  you did not come into existence. Even Christ in Revelation that
• 2:26:09
  what does he say? I am the beginning and end.
• 2:26:13
  I am the Alpha and the Omega. So he's basically saying the.
• 2:26:16
  Beginning of the end of the month.
• 2:26:20
  Well, it would probably be. I would state probably the end
• 2:26:23
  of matter, time and space the end of.
• 2:26:25
  The well, that would be the end, the beginning and end of
• 2:26:28
  existence. But we're talking about
• 2:26:30
  something that existed before existence.
• 2:26:34
  Could it be this universe? Could it be this?
• 2:26:37
  Well, who's to say that this is the only universe?
• 2:26:39
  I mean, I mean, if we can supposition that there's
• 2:26:43
  multiple universes, like, you know, a multiverse, you know,
• 2:26:47
  what's to say that's this universe wasn't created, like,
• 2:26:51
  you know, from another universe. Maybe it was a being from
• 2:26:55
  another universe, but that would still implicate that God had his
• 2:26:58
  own point of origin. Something created God.
• 2:27:04
  Well, the it's the same thing falls under the problem whenever
• 2:27:08
  we're doing the God thing and we're also doing multiverses.
• 2:27:11
  As far as multiverses go, it's an interesting speculation and
• 2:27:17
  one could actually say there's a good probability that there's
• 2:27:20
  multiverses. I know right now scientists are
• 2:27:23
  actually stating not only is there our universe, but there's
• 2:27:27
  actually realms and dimensions of our same universe and.
• 2:27:31
  They're actually proving this through mathematics.
• 2:27:34
  And you know, I don't discount science totally.
• 2:27:38
  You know, science has strong reasonability, it has a good
• 2:27:43
  reason for existing, and it's not always wrong.
• 2:27:48
  And mathematics, you know, when done right, I mean, a lot of
• 2:27:51
  it's beyond me. My dad was really into quantum
• 2:27:54
  physics and whatnot, but I I could never grasp that on a
• 2:27:59
  personal level. Yet I understand that there are
• 2:28:04
  theories and equations that prove through math that other
• 2:28:12
  realms exist, that other possibilities of existence can
• 2:28:16
  come into existence. Well, the double, you know,
• 2:28:20
  things like the double split experiment and things like, you
• 2:28:24
  know, the butterfly chaos theory, there's.
• 2:28:28
  No butterfly effect, yeah. Yeah, when you things like that
• 2:28:33
  really always get my mind going and and they're very
• 2:28:37
  interesting. One thing that I always liked to
• 2:28:42
  think of, because when I was a child I had, I had a hard
• 2:28:46
  upbringing. So in a lot of ways, so anything
• 2:28:50
  that I could do to kind of give myself a little bit of a perk, I
• 2:28:54
  always enjoyed it. And it was a mathematically
• 2:28:56
  proven fact that said that anything that can be thought of
• 2:29:03
  exists, anything that can happen, does happen.
• 2:29:08
  So it's literally like the butterfly effect.
• 2:29:11
  But that whole notion right there would always get me to
• 2:29:16
  stop and to think, what if the realm of Star Trek was real?
• 2:29:23
  Captain Kirk or Jean Luc Picard flying around the Galaxy in the
• 2:29:29
  Enterprise? You know, helping people and
• 2:29:31
  living a good life, you know, you know, fighting the Borg or
• 2:29:36
  getting into bar fights with Klingons.
• 2:29:38
  You know that that always excited me.
• 2:29:40
  Or what if Star Wars exists, you know, somewhere out there in the
• 2:29:44
  Galaxy, far, far away. You know, underneath this
• 2:29:47
  principle, this mathematic equation, all of this exists.
• 2:29:52
  All of this is potentially real, but it's also something that we
• 2:29:58
  need to stop and we need to think about the bad side of
• 2:30:00
  that. Because if anything can't
• 2:30:02
  happen, does happen. And if anything that can be
• 2:30:06
  thought of exists, then we also have to think of the horrible
• 2:30:10
  aspects like that. Xenomorphs, Predators and other
• 2:30:15
  world ending aliens. Monsters from dimensions that we
• 2:30:20
  cannot imagine or fathom. Katulu rising up for Relay to
• 2:30:25
  crush all mankind. You know, all all these horrible
• 2:30:30
  things, you know, which talk about Pinhead coming out of a
• 2:30:34
  tiny little puzzle box to peel our skin off and torment us.
• 2:30:40
  It's like you got all these good possible aspects, but you also
• 2:30:43
  got a lot of these negative ones too.
• 2:30:45
  And underneath this equation it all exists.
• 2:30:52
  Mr. Michael as well as Lucifer, have you guys heard of the
• 2:30:56
  Flatland theory? The Flat Earth.
• 2:30:59
  Theory. No, no, not Flat Earth.
• 2:31:01
  Flatland is that is that with the universe?
• 2:31:09
  Yeah, the the concept goes like this that we are
• 2:31:12
  three-dimensional entities. You were talking about how you
• 2:31:16
  like board games earlier. Well, it's describes us as being
• 2:31:20
  like on a board game and if there is a higher dimension
• 2:31:24
  entity like 1/4 dimension, this entity could be all around us,
• 2:31:28
  but because of its shape and its dimensions we wouldn't be able
• 2:31:32
  to perceive it, but it could clearly perceive us.
• 2:31:35
  In the same way, a programmer looks at a computer game that
• 2:31:39
  he's developing. He sees us, but we can't see
• 2:31:42
  him. Sort of like the matrix.
• 2:31:46
  Like a projection kind of, whereas we are the projection.
• 2:31:50
  We can't see that. Yeah, it'd be like you're a
• 2:31:53
  character in a simulation or video game.
• 2:31:56
  You're inside the computer, but there's another realm outside
• 2:32:00
  the computer where a fourth dimensional entity is watching
• 2:32:04
  you at all times and can keep track of everything he's got.
• 2:32:07
  The HUD, the UI, everything. And you will not be able to see
• 2:32:12
  such entity unless the developer itself allows itself access,
• 2:32:17
  such as. I'll give you a simple example
• 2:32:20
  VR where you become a part of the game or where an.
• 2:32:23
  Avatar or whatnot. Yeah, I'm going to quickly
• 2:32:26
  interrupt you. I mean, if you want to jump in
• 2:32:28
  on this, you've got to speak up. You can't just hold up your
• 2:32:31
  finger every time and wait for one of us to acknowledge you.
• 2:32:34
  Sorry about that, just listening.
• 2:32:36
  It just sounds more like the Matrix, basically.
• 2:32:38
  Sorry about that. Or do you think movies like The
• 2:32:40
  Matrix and ideas for that stuff comes up with?
• 2:32:44
  And they that the simulation idea has been around for a
• 2:32:47
  century now so I'll. Come up sooner.
• 2:32:51
  You know. Yeah, which is a good point
• 2:32:54
  there Brett. And you know that that all that
• 2:32:57
  sort of makes sense, but you know that that would come into
• 2:33:01
  whether God and Satan are real. You know that would fall into
• 2:33:06
  that. Has anybody ever seen the movie
• 2:33:08
  Clash of the Titans? Yeah, I've seen.
• 2:33:11
  A little world of. That been a while though, do
• 2:33:14
  you? Remember that the Olympians had
• 2:33:16
  this weird like arena, like this miniature arena, and Zeus could
• 2:33:22
  take a miniature of anybody and set it in the arena like it was
• 2:33:27
  a toy clay miniature of a person.
• 2:33:29
  And that would represent that person and it would be like him
• 2:33:33
  moving people around on the planet Earth, and it would
• 2:33:37
  actually have affected sounds very similar to what you're
• 2:33:39
  describing. Yeah, the developer.
• 2:33:42
  The developer. If it wanted to, it could
• 2:33:45
  actually take away someone's free will in order to adjust
• 2:33:49
  what it wants in its plan or in its game.
• 2:33:52
  However, if it's a developer that wants its characters to
• 2:33:55
  seem alive, then they would let them do choices.
• 2:33:58
  But another fascinating aspect is if we lived in a simulation
• 2:34:02
  or a game like thing, there's so many times the developer could
• 2:34:06
  have paused the game and did all kinds of adjustment.
• 2:34:10
  We didn't. Even know that's right.
• 2:34:12
  You know I I really think that's a real that's a really
• 2:34:14
  fascinating theory and and I I haven't exactly heard of that
• 2:34:20
  but I'm really glad that you've introduced that because that
• 2:34:23
  really opens a lot of doors and kind of fills in some some
• 2:34:29
  possibilities that I that I think could could explain an
• 2:34:33
  account for a lot of things. One of them that I thought that
• 2:34:37
  that I kind of thought of really, really quick is the
• 2:34:41
  whole days theory in Genesis of that being a pause like you
• 2:34:46
  mentioned or even just you know that being the start.
• 2:34:52
  Oh, I get what you're going with.
• 2:34:54
  You're you're talking about the the difference between time of
• 2:34:57
  the four dimensional character and the three-dimensional
• 2:35:00
  character. Well, you're on to something.
• 2:35:02
  If you were to play Fallout right now, days and nights would
• 2:35:05
  happen a lot sooner than what they're actually happening in
• 2:35:08
  real time. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:35:11
  Here's my question with that. Say you're a game developer.
• 2:35:15
  OK, Say you're this cosmic game developer and all we are is
• 2:35:19
  sprites in a game where we're pixels or whatever you want to
• 2:35:23
  call it. And so say we're this and you
• 2:35:27
  are the game developer. You are essentially God, and you
• 2:35:34
  decide to take these characters in your game and move them from
• 2:35:41
  one place to another and then do horrible things to them all of a
• 2:35:45
  sudden like we do in video games as is.
• 2:35:49
  I mean, we we take these video game characters and we put them
• 2:35:51
  in zombie infested apocalypses and we force them to go swinging
• 2:35:59
  from building tops and whatnot and do all sorts of crazy things
• 2:36:04
  without any, you know, any remorse or regard for how maybe
• 2:36:10
  Peter Parker might feel about hanging upside down from a
• 2:36:13
  building in real life. You know?
• 2:36:16
  Or how someone might feel about being chased down a police
• 2:36:22
  station hallway by liquors or zombies or the tyrant nemesis.
• 2:36:30
  What? What does it?
• 2:36:31
  What does that say about God when he takes these same things,
• 2:36:35
  You know, being us or this developer takes us and puts us
• 2:36:39
  into similar situations where a tank might drive over us or
• 2:36:43
  we're fighting in a war and doing all these horrible things
• 2:36:47
  and and what what would that say, you know about if about
• 2:36:52
  that being? Well, death.
• 2:36:55
  Death in life would seem like a totally different to a developer
• 2:36:59
  though, wouldn't it? I I understand what you're
• 2:37:01
  saying, but imagine for a moment that the developer actually
• 2:37:05
  gives you a manual. Also gives you tablets that tell
• 2:37:09
  you this is how I want the game played.
• 2:37:11
  Don't kill, don't do this, don't do that.
• 2:37:14
  And you know it's up to the NPCS what they're going to do at this
• 2:37:17
  point, aren't. I mean, if you think about it,
• 2:37:20
  and even Anton would probably agree with this, humanity has
• 2:37:23
  always been its worst enemy, its own worst enemy.
• 2:37:27
  There's, there's not, you know, pound.
• 2:37:30
  It it really does and I that. That was what I was going to
• 2:37:34
  touch on Brett is that I was going to say that it's not I
• 2:37:38
  don't think it's God or in this case the developer that says I'm
• 2:37:42
  going to send a tank and a dictator to go and and smite
• 2:37:46
  these people or I'm going to send some school shooter And
• 2:37:49
  it's the actions of of the the individuals because of their
• 2:37:53
  free will and because of the situation it's kind of like but.
• 2:37:58
  How? How do we know it's actually
• 2:38:00
  that? Because if the developer can
• 2:38:02
  pause the whole scenario and rearrange things without the the
• 2:38:06
  sprites or the characters in the game knowing about it, I how
• 2:38:13
  would we know that it's actually the sprites or the characters in
• 2:38:16
  the game doing that? And well, I I think that because
• 2:38:20
  the. Developer.
• 2:38:21
  It's at least from a from a biblical perspective
• 2:38:24
  perspective. When God does things, it's
• 2:38:28
  usually made known. When he destroys things, He.
• 2:38:33
  When he wants to right, what's to say?
• 2:38:37
  That's that's the whole point The right there though what's
• 2:38:39
  say that he hasn't paused the game completely wiped everything
• 2:38:43
  out and started back from scratch numerous times.
• 2:38:46
  You know I've. I've heard things about
• 2:38:48
  according before. Right.
• 2:38:50
  You do that. According to the theory, it's
• 2:38:52
  very possible that the developer's done that a a
• 2:38:56
  billion times over. Might have done that with Adolf
• 2:38:58
  Hitler when Adolf Hitler was doing his thing.
• 2:39:01
  It's possible that God could foresee that Hitler was going to
• 2:39:05
  destroy the entire world. But, he said, all right, time to
• 2:39:08
  pause the game and put him in the oh, I'm in a bunker and
• 2:39:11
  missiles are dropping. And and that happened, you know.
• 2:39:15
  See what I mean? It's just like the Dungeon
• 2:39:18
  Master or a game master in tabletop RPGs.
• 2:39:22
  You know, everybody could be having fun going rogue off
• 2:39:26
  storyline and finally just piss off the Dungeon master so much
• 2:39:29
  that the Dungeon Master says, OK motherfuckers, I'm going to drop
• 2:39:33
  Godzilla on your ass. Godzilla is going after us.
• 2:39:40
  Gojira. Gojira.
• 2:39:43
  I often. The dog excited.
• 2:39:49
  I I. Often think of so many close
• 2:39:54
  calls that we don't know about. Have you ever heard?
• 2:39:58
  About that. So it came out of nowhere.
• 2:40:00
  It scared your dog there, Scary dog.
• 2:40:04
  Have you ever heard of in Russia?
• 2:40:06
  There's been multiple times like well I guess the Soviet Union it
• 2:40:10
  was where you know they they they thought birds it was birds.
• 2:40:17
  But they thought it was the US launch of nuclear missiles and
• 2:40:22
  someone was sitting there in a bunker and they all they got was
• 2:40:26
  an alarm going off and they were told to to launch and you know
• 2:40:31
  there was there was someone there.
• 2:40:33
  There was an individual guy sitting there and he he against
• 2:40:37
  the orders of the Soviet leaders and and he got fired.
• 2:40:43
  He got sent to jail and everything chose not to launch,
• 2:40:50
  you know, a new an intercontinental nuclear
• 2:40:54
  ballistic missile that would have, you know, started World
• 2:40:58
  War Three and probably killed most of the.
• 2:41:01
  This sounds like the plot line of Crimson Tide with Gene, yeah?
• 2:41:07
  Yeah. Well, you know, and what's that
• 2:41:09
  movie with the sub October or? Hunt for Red October.
• 2:41:13
  I was just thinking of that movie, yeah.
• 2:41:16
  And I didn't talk about that movie.
• 2:41:17
  It's been a while since I even watched that movie.
• 2:41:20
  Michael. Before.
• 2:41:21
  It is a. Good movie it is.
• 2:41:24
  It's. A good.
• 2:41:25
  Movie Michael Before we move too far along to another topic, I do
• 2:41:29
  want to suggest something for you.
• 2:41:30
  If you are interested in that interdimensional Flatland thing
• 2:41:34
  that I was talking about. A good scientist to listen to
• 2:41:38
  about that is Carl Sagan. Look into Carl Sagan Flatland
• 2:41:43
  and you'll get to see him describe it really well to you.
• 2:41:47
  A lot of theological things are going to spark in your head when
• 2:41:50
  you hear it. It sounds like a really good
• 2:41:52
  theory and I I'll I'll be searching that up as myself too.
• 2:41:56
  That's. A very interesting theory.
• 2:41:58
  And I'm going to say, Michael, you definitely don't sound like
• 2:42:02
  most Mormons that I've encountered.
• 2:42:05
  You seem a lot a little bit more worldly than most of them.
• 2:42:08
  Well, I belong to and and this might surprise you a bit more, I
• 2:42:13
  belong to the righteous branch of the Church of Jesus Christ.
• 2:42:16
  The Latter Day Saints. Are we live in that.
• 2:42:19
  I'm actually a more fundamentalist Mormon.
• 2:42:23
  We're we're an offshoot of the Church of Jesus Christ.
• 2:42:28
  And so we're not the the FLDS, though, with the crazy Warren
• 2:42:34
  Jeffs and. But we we.
• 2:42:37
  Hey, let's see. FLDS has a polygamy which is
• 2:42:40
  fun. By the way, STS also believes in
• 2:42:43
  polygamy. We we we are allowed to have
• 2:42:45
  multiple we. Practice plural.
• 2:42:48
  Well I I won't get into that but you know we we but we don't we
• 2:42:53
  don't the, you know the FLDS had underage people and that was
• 2:42:59
  where. Obey the law when you do it, you
• 2:43:03
  know. That's my opinion.
• 2:43:06
  But we believe in the original teachings of Joseph Smith and
• 2:43:10
  Brigham Young. And a lot of the mainstream LDS
• 2:43:16
  have really kind of because of the, you know, evangelical
• 2:43:21
  Christian Protestants, they've kind of had this big effort to
• 2:43:26
  really want to advertise as themselves is really appealing.
• 2:43:31
  And and they've kind of watered down.
• 2:43:35
  Not not that they've abandoned necessarily but they've really
• 2:43:40
  tried to be like oh you know please we're we're like we're
• 2:43:44
  just like regular people and changed a lot of their
• 2:43:49
  ordinances and things which we don't agree with you know
• 2:43:55
  because of that. So we we don't deny a lot of the
• 2:43:59
  things that they sort of walk around and and or reject or
• 2:44:04
  change. Hi Sarah.
• 2:44:08
  Thanks. And a lot of people don't know
• 2:44:11
  that there are different denominations of within the
• 2:44:14
  Mormon movement. So I.
• 2:44:19
  Would I'm actually not confined with that.
• 2:44:22
  One of my favorite people in the whole wide world, one God says
• 2:44:25
  Mormons believe in billions of gods.
• 2:44:27
  Old Testament says there are no gods before or after me.
• 2:44:31
  So which is it? Well, according to the Bible in
• 2:44:35
  2nd Corinthians 3425 it says because they have forsaken me
• 2:44:40
  and it burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me
• 2:44:45
  to anger with all the works of their hands.
• 2:44:48
  Therefore my wrath shall be poured upon the place so the
• 2:44:51
  Bible has. Right there, the Bible says that
• 2:44:54
  there are other gods. Even in when God is speaking
• 2:44:58
  God, God the Father Himself is speaking when He's giving the
• 2:45:01
  the commandments to Moses. Now we don't.
• 2:45:05
  I want to be clear on this. We do not believe that the we
• 2:45:10
  don't. We do not worship anyone besides
• 2:45:13
  God the Father. However, the Bible itself does
• 2:45:18
  not say that there are no other gods.
• 2:45:22
  It says you shall have no other gods before me.
• 2:45:26
  He doesn't say there are no other gods out there.
• 2:45:29
  Exactly, exactly. That's well put.
• 2:45:31
  That's very well put, Michael. Thank you.
• 2:45:34
  I think. That's your name is your.
• 2:45:36
  Name Michael. Well, that's my middle name and
• 2:45:38
  my name is David. OK, David.
• 2:45:41
  All right. Oh, that's OK.
• 2:45:46
  But yeah, so, so that's the thing more we do not.
• 2:45:49
  So, you know, we don't worship any other God.
• 2:45:53
  We just acknowledge, yes, there are other gods out there.
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  I don't. And there's nothing wrong with
• 2:45:58
  that. There's absolutely nothing wrong
• 2:46:00
  with it. Because that makes a lot.
• 2:46:02
  That leaves a lot of room for sensible discussion to open up
• 2:46:06
  to. Oh yeah, and.
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  And this is this is something that I'd like to point out.
• 2:46:11
  Is that atheist? Don't make room for IS.
• 2:46:15
  They don't want to make any sort of room for sensible discussion.
• 2:46:19
  Now granted, there's certain theists out there that you
• 2:46:21
  cannot have a sensible discussion with, but I would.
• 2:46:25
  I would like to think that there is a lot more theists out there
• 2:46:29
  that in my experience that you seem to be able to have a
• 2:46:33
  sensible discussion with no matter what your religion then
• 2:46:37
  you do when you come to people who claim to be atheists.
• 2:46:40
  And this is where a lot of problems where atheistic
• 2:46:43
  Satanists have when it comes to the Church, Satan, or say TST
• 2:46:47
  for example, is that they they have no will or desire to think
• 2:46:52
  outside of their own little box. Oh yeah, for sure.
• 2:46:59
  And I think that it's important to be willing to first of all to
• 2:47:06
  be open and and also to be willing to defend and have an
• 2:47:11
  understanding of what you believe and to be to be willing
• 2:47:15
  to, I guess be challenged on your beliefs and to be open to
• 2:47:19
  the possibility of evolving and changing your beliefs based on
• 2:47:24
  what's presented. What I find is that atheists are
• 2:47:29
  completely unwilling to even entertain the possibility of
• 2:47:34
  ever changing their beliefs. And that's.
• 2:47:40
  That's it takes, it takes a hell of a lot for an atheist.
• 2:47:43
  And I think I can safely say this because we have Brett here
• 2:47:47
  who was an atheist who converted to Christianity.
• 2:47:49
  It takes a hell of a lot to barge into that mind and say,
• 2:47:55
  hey, you know, there's something here that you need to pay
• 2:47:58
  attention to. Perhaps you're not looking on
• 2:48:02
  the right path. I've actually had some
• 2:48:06
  Christians who felt like there was hope for other atheists
• 2:48:09
  because a big, you know, former atheists like myself.
• 2:48:13
  And I've told people there's a difference between the way I was
• 2:48:17
  my thought process. I've always, even before I
• 2:48:20
  became a Christian, I've always been the type of person where I
• 2:48:23
  wanted to hear other people's views.
• 2:48:25
  I cared about what other people thought.
• 2:48:28
  I wanted to understand why people thought the way they did.
• 2:48:31
  So I spent a lot of time with people of all different
• 2:48:33
  religions is where other atheists are.
• 2:48:35
  Like, yeah, you believe in a sky, Daddy, you believe in a
• 2:48:38
  sky. So you you can't talk to
• 2:48:43
  somebody who who suffers from that form of stupid.
• 2:48:46
  You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
• 2:48:49
  It's just like dealing with a a leftist with Trump Derangement
• 2:48:53
  Syndrome. There's no talking to him.
• 2:48:54
  You're. A Nazi you're.
• 2:48:58
  A Nazi? You're a Nazi.
• 2:49:02
  Trump is a Nazi. Well, and I I'm curious, Brett,
• 2:49:07
  because you you you had said that you you were an atheist
• 2:49:10
  before. Was it your decision?
• 2:49:13
  Because this is what I have found is that often it's
• 2:49:18
  someone's own personal decision rather than any convincing or or
• 2:49:25
  any you know, you're, you're. Asking me if I made the choice
• 2:49:29
  to not believe in God basically, right?
• 2:49:32
  No, no. Rather the opposite that you you
• 2:49:36
  had come to the conclusion that there there was a possibility
• 2:49:39
  that there was God after being an atheist.
• 2:49:44
  As. A non as a non believer and all
• 2:49:48
  that, I looked into a lot of different information and a lot
• 2:49:51
  of things made sense to me and did a lot of study on that.
• 2:49:55
  But as far as making the choice of becoming an atheist, I
• 2:49:58
  actually think I did. I actually do think that I made
• 2:50:02
  the choice to become an atheist and actually deliberately and
• 2:50:05
  intentionally suppress God. And the reason why is because I
• 2:50:09
  had a a really hard upbringing and on top of that I had
• 2:50:12
  suffered some losses in my life and it broke me.
• 2:50:16
  I said to hell with this. And it was easier to just deny
• 2:50:19
  it all than it was to face it. Yeah, that makes.
• 2:50:24
  Sense. That actually makes sense.
• 2:50:26
  Well, you know I can. I can respect the fact that you
• 2:50:30
  made that journey and that I I think that that to be willing to
• 2:50:38
  you know, a lot, especially if you've had you know a lot of
• 2:50:41
  hardship a lot of struggle then it's it's understandable to want
• 2:50:48
  to blame something what to to deny something is has always
• 2:50:54
  fascinated me because I've I've never in my life been sort of I
• 2:51:02
  guess a non believer. But so I've always been
• 2:51:06
  interested in what makes people become, you know, staunch
• 2:51:10
  atheists. But I.
• 2:51:13
  I can tell you, just give you a quick summary.
• 2:51:15
  I don't want to go into deep detail, but my mother had died
• 2:51:20
  in a really horrible way. And then a year later, my
• 2:51:23
  daughter was born in the world, and the doctor's medical field
• 2:51:26
  told me she wasn't going to make it.
• 2:51:28
  It took years of seeing her actually get better and better.
• 2:51:32
  And then finally, in her teenage years, I realized she was going
• 2:51:35
  to be great it with that kind of damage and tragedy, you need
• 2:51:40
  time to heal before you're open to being able to hear about God
• 2:51:45
  and higher powers and entities that might love you or care
• 2:51:49
  about you. At that time, I wasn't hearing
• 2:51:51
  it. Yeah.
• 2:51:53
  Well, I'm sorry, but also I am glad by the way that your
• 2:51:58
  daughter, despite what was said, is did the opposite as well and
• 2:52:07
  that's understandable that that that process.
• 2:52:11
  Yeah, it really is. It is.
• 2:52:13
  You know, that's that's something very similar to.
• 2:52:16
  I could have easily gone atheist when I lost my faith in
• 2:52:20
  Christianity. But instead of losing my faith
• 2:52:24
  just simply in Christianity, I began like you, studying many
• 2:52:29
  different religions and eventually came around to Wicca,
• 2:52:34
  which over the years led me to Satanism.
• 2:52:39
  That's I've explained my journey on that many a times, Brett.
• 2:52:45
  Right. And I did no for.
• 2:52:47
  For me, Mr. Michael, it wasn't I It wasn't.
• 2:52:52
  I'm trying to. Speak up.
• 2:52:55
  Yeah. Can you guys I'm trying.
• 2:52:56
  To speak up. What do you mean?
• 2:52:57
  I'm just going to speak up here, OK?
• 2:53:00
  I can't hear. It was.
• 2:53:04
  Damn. All right.
• 2:53:05
  Is my microphone working? Yeah.
• 2:53:07
  It's working. It's.
• 2:53:08
  I can hear you. All right.
• 2:53:11
  Well, what? What else you got for me,
• 2:53:13
  Michael? Well, actually when you were
• 2:53:17
  telling your story, I I was thinking of a hymn.
• 2:53:22
  Not to not to get all churchy, but there's a lot of meaning in
• 2:53:27
  some hymns and there's one called God moves in a mysterious
• 2:53:31
  way. And the reason I bring it up is
• 2:53:35
  because it was written by a a Christian who was suffering from
• 2:53:41
  depression and it was written in the 1800s.
• 2:53:46
  And the the hymn talks about his struggle with faith and then the
• 2:53:51
  hymn, it sort of talks about the fact that he isn't 100% sure but
• 2:53:58
  yet he has that hope and that enduring faith and that it still
• 2:54:06
  says that there are things he's not sure of.
• 2:54:09
  One of the lines is blind unbelief is sure to air and and
• 2:54:17
  so it's it basically it's AI think I think you should you
• 2:54:21
  don't know how to share a link but if you just look that up,
• 2:54:24
  God moved in a mysterious way. Yeah.
• 2:54:33
  All right, well, if you want to post that in private chat or the
• 2:54:36
  link or whatever that is, I'll check it out later if you like.
• 2:54:40
  Oh, is there a chat feature? Oh, I see that.
• 2:54:42
  Oh yeah, there is a chat feature.
• 2:54:45
  Yeah, there's no one's talking in it right now, but yeah, it's
• 2:54:48
  there. We can see all the comments.
• 2:54:51
  Like, really empty. I don't know about you guys, but
• 2:54:56
  you know here in a couple minutes I'm going to have to get
• 2:54:58
  off here. It's been like 3 hours.
• 2:55:00
  I I pretty much. I wasn't going to be coming on
• 2:55:04
  on a Monday night because normally I reserve that for my
• 2:55:07
  for my family and whatnot. But you know, I wasn't with what
• 2:55:13
  was going on earlier today with Church Satan talking stupid and
• 2:55:17
  everything, and Brett gave me a damn good reason for coming up.
• 2:55:23
  Well, none of them showed up. None of them came in to actually
• 2:55:26
  because. They're pussies.
• 2:55:29
  They're pussies. I I like the one woman whose
• 2:55:32
  clip you put up at the beginning of the show where she said that
• 2:55:36
  she would rather I have her pussy grabbed than be led by a
• 2:55:41
  pussy. Exactly.
• 2:55:44
  We need that shit right now. And also I like, the video goes,
• 2:55:49
  this is the game for hood. It just hurts.
• 2:55:52
  Grieving. My God.
• 2:55:55
  That's a perfect example of what Church Satan is.
• 2:55:58
  Yeah, they were. They used to not be like that.
• 2:56:01
  They actually used to be a very viable good group to follow.
• 2:56:06
  They were up until Lebe passed away.
• 2:56:11
  Well, some people would say even, you know, before that in
• 2:56:14
  1975, but you know, that's then, not now, but now all they are.
• 2:56:21
  Even after Gilmore came over, he was still for the longest time,
• 2:56:26
  OK, with, you know, the far right philosophy.
• 2:56:29
  He created the right of Ragnarok.
• 2:56:31
  There was a lot of German archetypes in there.
• 2:56:35
  There was a lot of German influence in it then.
• 2:56:38
  But then all of a sudden the woke movement happened and you
• 2:56:43
  know, now he's running around. There's a little old man in gay
• 2:56:47
  pride parades. Let.
• 2:56:51
  Me give the. Wheelchair.
• 2:56:52
  That's what we need to give him a good old wheel drip.
• 2:56:54
  Make it look like Stephen Hawking.
• 2:56:55
  I'm. Curious.
• 2:56:56
  I can say that. I can say that, and criticizing
• 2:57:00
  him for it because our Grand Archon came Blackfyre in the STS
• 2:57:05
  is a gay man. He is, you know, he supports gay
• 2:57:09
  pride and whatnot, but he does not support gay pride parades.
• 2:57:13
  He does not support all that public displace.
• 2:57:16
  Yeah. That's bad imagery for the
• 2:57:18
  entire movement. It is because you you get these
• 2:57:23
  people who's running around in public doing all these horrible
• 2:57:28
  things around children. Yeah, they're actually 2.
• 2:57:31
  That's good. They're.
• 2:57:32
  Actual that's shows some sexual booze in front of kids.
• 2:57:35
  Yeah, that won't be pedophilia jokes on you.
• 2:57:39
  That is pedophilia. That's the fuck are you doing?
• 2:57:44
  Right here, you there. You sound like that's exactly
• 2:57:46
  what the white Bowser said all the time.
• 2:57:48
  It's just cartoons. I never thought that I'd be
• 2:57:53
  sitting here with with a Satanist that had more more
• 2:57:58
  values than than than, you know, a lot of the the mainstream
• 2:58:02
  churches. Anton Lavey himself said that
• 2:58:06
  many conservatives would be surprised on how much they agree
• 2:58:11
  with the Satanist, with how much they would agree with us.
• 2:58:15
  And the truth? Of the matter is, is we do not
• 2:58:18
  support abortion. We are many Satanists are
• 2:58:22
  actually right leaning or have very strong values that lean
• 2:58:29
  into the far right in many ways. I actually have an article that
• 2:58:34
  you can go to the STS website. We have numerous articles there,
• 2:58:39
  but there's an article there that talks about the politics of
• 2:58:43
  Satanism and I can go into what Anton Levay's own.
• 2:58:46
  Pert. Uh, huh.
• 2:58:48
  Yeah, it is. And I go into the views of Anton
• 2:58:51
  Lavey and the people who he kept around him.
• 2:58:55
  And he had people who were definitely big movers and
• 2:58:59
  shakers in the political alt right and far right movements
• 2:59:04
  and Nazi movements, some who were outright members of the
• 2:59:08
  American Nazi parties, who were former members of the of the
• 2:59:13
  American Nazi Bund. And he, Kurt Saxon was a member.
• 2:59:19
  He I believe he wrote the poor man's James Bond.
• 2:59:22
  He actually, I believe he was the one who made the medallion
• 2:59:26
  for Zena Levay's baptism that you see her wearing in pictures.
• 2:59:33
  So there was a lot of movers and shakers on the political right.
• 2:59:37
  And Anton Levay himself was a registered pub Republican all
• 2:59:43
  the way up till his death. And this is something that the
• 2:59:47
  modern Church of Satan, the modern political leftists in
• 2:59:50
  Satanism don't want you to know about.
• 2:59:52
  They don't want you to hear about it.
• 2:59:53
  They don't want you to talk about it.
• 2:59:56
  Exactly. They they deny it.
• 2:59:58
  They say that overall about bodily autonomy, we're all about
• 3:00:02
  having abortion and all this other.
• 3:00:05
  Stuff. Yeah, and that's all TS, and it
• 3:00:08
  has nothing to do with it. Oh.
• 3:00:09
  No, he had nothing to do with that bullshit.
• 3:00:13
  And he Brett, he could tell you he's he's read a lot of our
• 3:00:16
  literature in the past couple weeks.
• 3:00:19
  He can tell you flat out that we're definitely not into any of
• 3:00:22
  that crap. Hell, Nah.
• 3:00:27
  Thank you, Sarah. And and what is that the the
• 3:00:31
  TST? Yeah, the Satanic Temple.
• 3:00:34
  They're the ones that are getting into all the news media
• 3:00:38
  and they're being the activists and whatnot.
• 3:00:40
  Oh yeah, they. They've got antifa all up in
• 3:00:43
  them and they oh. Fuck Antifa.
• 3:00:46
  Oh well. You know, I have to say, if you
• 3:00:48
  got them angry, then you've done something right.
• 3:00:50
  Oh yeah. I'm waiting for Antifa to come
• 3:00:53
  at me and basically try to beat the shit out of me.
• 3:00:55
  I'm wait, I'm. Ready.
• 3:00:56
  Well, I I find it funny because all these people say go punch
• 3:01:00
  your local Nazi. Well, here's the thing.
• 3:01:03
  I've been around Nazis. I was 1 back.
• 3:01:06
  In the Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 3:01:07
  I've been around Bert Kaluzi, s s Mike Scholler, and a bunch of
• 3:01:15
  the other ones I've been around the oh God, I forget what their
• 3:01:20
  names are right now, but they're up in Pennsylvania and they're
• 3:01:23
  all they're all good people. But I guarantee damn to you, you
• 3:01:27
  walk up and you take a poke at a big fat man like Bert Kaluzi.
• 3:01:32
  He's going to knock you on your ass.
• 3:01:35
  I would love to see somebody walk up and try to take a punch
• 3:01:40
  of that man. We need to we need him to take
• 3:01:42
  something called punch your local antifa.
• 3:01:46
  Well, you guys ready to wrap things up?
• 3:01:48
  And also Friday 7:00 PM Central I'm going.
• 3:01:51
  To be doing every. Monday, every Friday I'm going
• 3:01:55
  to be doing a live show, so anybody and everybody's welcome.
• 3:01:59
  You guys want to plug your channels or anything?
• 3:02:02
  You can find me on YouTube. My name is Lucifer Leggo Vorden.
• 3:02:07
  You can find me at Lucifer Leggo Vorden and the Satanic Thulian
• 3:02:10
  Society on YouTube. I've also I'm working on
• 3:02:14
  building up my rumble channel so I can stream to rumble.
• 3:02:17
  You can also find me on Twitter and truth social.
• 3:02:21
  I need to build up my true social one so you can check me
• 3:02:25
  out there. I do have a Facebook but I try.
• 3:02:27
  I'm trying to keep that to like basically friends and SDS
• 3:02:30
  members. All right.
• 3:02:32
  So Michael, Mr. Metaller, would you like to plug a channel,
• 3:02:36
  website, anything like that more than for awesome.com or
• 3:02:41
  something? Sorry about that.
• 3:02:43
  I do have Facebook, Instagram, X and I rarely use my YouTube, but
• 3:02:49
  most of the stuff I post, mostly metal stuff and just saying I
• 3:02:52
  was not expecting to be here today, but I was, you know,
• 3:02:57
  invited. It's like why not?
• 3:02:58
  It's been joining the stream. So I was a little extreme,
• 3:03:00
  didn't speak up because I was trying to fix up the audio
• 3:03:02
  issue. Well, we're we're happy to hear
• 3:03:07
  your voice there. You can also check out my book
• 3:03:10
  on Amazon.com. It is.
• 3:03:13
  Let's see if it goes goes all blurry again there, Brian.
• 3:03:16
  I'll grab my copy too, just in case.
• 3:03:20
  The Satanic Testament and you can find this on.
• 3:03:25
  Amazon. It's a little blurry, but you
• 3:03:28
  can still read it. You can find this book on
• 3:03:31
  Amazon.com and. Here's this copyright here.
• 3:03:38
  There you go, and you can find it on Amazon.com.
• 3:03:41
  It's about 30 bucks. We have multiple different
• 3:03:45
  editions of it that if you're a church, if you're a STS member,
• 3:03:50
  you can find on the 600 Club, which is our private site for
• 3:03:57
  members only and put. Little stuff there.
• 3:04:02
  Yep, Yep. It's a it's a nice little site
• 3:04:05
  and we don't talk about it very often.
• 3:04:07
  Isn't my mic working? Yes, it is.
• 3:04:10
  Yep, we can have. Something for us?
• 3:04:12
  MM You got something for us? Mike, Michael, where are?
• 3:04:21
  You Michael's attention, Did that work?
• 3:04:34
  Jeez, that's how Furry sees himself.
• 3:04:37
  Like that. Anyways, so Mikey, do you have
• 3:04:42
  anything you want to add in? I don't think he can hear us.
• 3:04:45
  I think he might be out. I don't know.
• 3:04:47
  Like pants on the bottom. He's holding up a pamphlet.
• 3:04:52
  We're not able to read that little bitty thing.
• 3:04:57
  All right. So I'm going to go ahead and
• 3:04:59
  throw up a flick and in this out.
• 3:05:01
  All right, guys. All right.
• 3:05:03
  All right. The
• 3:06:56
  None.