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The Bolt Report | 8 January · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Goods is the report.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Danikiti Giorgio coming up on the show tonight, Labour's
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  Speaker 3: economic con job exposed, claiming today's inflation numbers is a
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  Speaker 3: cost of living victory. I'll expose the spin shortly.
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  Speaker 2: Airbus elbow is everywhere and nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: He's made a visit to the top end, but apparently
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  Speaker 3: has no time to visit Youth Crime Ground zero, Alice
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  Speaker 3: Springs or Tenant Creek.
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  Speaker 2: What message does this send?
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  Speaker 3: Or head to the UK to understand the growing grooming
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  Speaker 3: gang scandal and why it's important to acknowledge how authorities
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  Speaker 3: covered up religious and ethnic crimes because of political correctness
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  Speaker 3: and a big win for the fight for freedom of
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  Speaker 3: speech with meta scrapping biased fact checkers ahead of Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump's second term, but first tonight, Labor is today claiming
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  Speaker 3: a victory of sorts in the cost of living crisis,
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  Speaker 3: when in reality its phony economic management and spin have
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  Speaker 3: been exposed. Instead of lowering the cost of electricity by
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy five dollars as they promised they
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  Speaker 3: would and improving the lives of struggling Australians as they
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  Speaker 3: promised they would. They pumped taxpayer funded money into subsidies
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  Speaker 3: and then claimed it was.
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  Speaker 2: An inflation win.
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  Speaker 3: But that giveaway con job has come undone today and
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  Speaker 3: I'll show you why shortly. According to today's inflation data,
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  Speaker 3: the underlying inflation rate, the trimmed mean, came in at
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  Speaker 3: three point two percent, down from three point five percent
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  Speaker 3: in October. That is not in the Reserve banks range.
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  Speaker 3: It needs to be between two and three percent, So
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  Speaker 3: we are still above the RBA's target. We're not there
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  Speaker 3: yet yet. The treasurer was all smiles.
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  Speaker 4: These new numbers are an important reminder of the very
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  Speaker 4: substantial and very sustained progress that we have made in
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  Speaker 4: the fight against inflation.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, there hasn't been any progress because
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  Speaker 3: headline inflation rose from two point one percent to two
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  Speaker 3: point three percent in the twelve months to November.
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  Speaker 2: It's above the.
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  Speaker 3: Two point two percent rise expected by economists.
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  Speaker 2: It has gone up. Now.
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  Speaker 3: This is important in understanding why interest rates remain high
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  Speaker 3: and exposes Albaneasian charmers for spending our money on quick
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  Speaker 3: band aid solutions that still don't solve the problem. Because
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  Speaker 3: in the last few months, the figures have been temporarily
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  Speaker 3: and falsely altered by Labour's electricity subsidies both state and federally.
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  Speaker 3: It means you and I are helping to pay for
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  Speaker 3: each other's electricity bills.
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  Speaker 5: So how is.
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  Speaker 3: Bringing down inflation and actually bringing down inflation? When we
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  Speaker 3: as sent the bill, it was all designed to trick
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  Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank into thinking that labor has got a
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  Speaker 3: handle on the economy.
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  Speaker 2: But it was always going to be the case.
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  Speaker 3: Once those rebates started petering out, you and I as
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  Speaker 3: consumers were going to reap the costs, and boom, the
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  Speaker 3: con job has been exposed today. It's happening already because
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  Speaker 3: electricity prices sawed twenty two point four percent in the
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  Speaker 3: month of November, and Comsex says it's because the impact
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  Speaker 3: of government bill rebates was lower than in October.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look at that figure. Have a look at
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  Speaker 2: that graph.
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  Speaker 3: It has sawed dramatically. And this was always going to
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  Speaker 3: happen because Labor told us it would bring down power
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  Speaker 3: bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars then stood
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  Speaker 3: there in the May budget with the promise of subsidized
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  Speaker 3: energy relief. It was always going to be temper hiary headline.
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  Speaker 3: Inflation had been receiving in recent months as households were
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  Speaker 3: showered with those rebates. However, RBA Governor Michelle Bullock has
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  Speaker 3: repeatedly stressed the RBA will look through the decline given
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  Speaker 3: the costs of living supports will expire at the end
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  Speaker 3: of June, and those supports certainly have not stopped costs
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  Speaker 3: from soaring. Food and drink has risen by two point
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  Speaker 3: nine percent, alcohol and tobacco surged six point seven percent,
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  Speaker 3: and the cost of recreation is costing three point two
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  Speaker 3: percent more.
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  Speaker 6: And all of this tells us that the government's been
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  Speaker 6: playing games. It's seeking to hide inflation, but we know
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  Speaker 6: underlying inflation is not where it needs to be. Now,
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  Speaker 6: you don't need to tell any Australians that they know it.
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  Speaker 6: They see it in the bank account, they see it
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  Speaker 6: when they go to the checkout, they see it when
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  Speaker 6: they have to pay their bills.
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  Speaker 3: They are suffering and interest rates should be going down
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  Speaker 3: as they are in the western countries. So what do
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  Speaker 3: today's figures mean now for the RBA. I'll let economist
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  Speaker 3: Warren Hogan explain.
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  Speaker 7: It's maybe telling us that inflation is running around three
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  Speaker 7: Maybe three and a half and it isn't.
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  Speaker 8: A good surprise.
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  Speaker 7: It's not making it won't make the RBA any happier
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  Speaker 7: about the trajectory for inflation. So I don't think this
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  Speaker 7: really changes the story much at this stage.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't change much, and most economists.
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  Speaker 3: Do not expect the RBA to begin its easing cycle
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  Speaker 3: until it's May nineteen twenty board meeting, which if realized,
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  Speaker 3: would dash Labour's chance of pre election rate relief, and
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  Speaker 3: of course that spells trouble.
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  Speaker 4: Will you take responsibility if there's no interest rate cut
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  Speaker 4: for the election?
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  Speaker 9: The Reserve Bank is responsible for interest rates with your
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  Speaker 9: policy's impact what the reserve Reserve Bank is responsible for
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  Speaker 9: interest rates?
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  Speaker 3: And let's remind ourselves of those policies and Labour's performance
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to the economy and inflation. First, they
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  Speaker 3: promised us everything and more.
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  Speaker 9: A plan to address cost of living, take pressure off
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  Speaker 9: cost of living, pressure off the cost of living, the
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  Speaker 9: cost of living, cost of living, cost of living, relief
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  Speaker 9: downward pressure on cost of living and more empty promises.
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  Speaker 9: In our first term, we're brought down the cost of
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  Speaker 9: childcare for over one million families, reducing power prices by
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  Speaker 9: two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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  Speaker 4: By twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 4: a year.
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  Speaker 9: We've delivered real wage increases four quarters in a row.
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  Speaker 9: In our next term, we will cut twenty percent of
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  Speaker 9: the student debt of every single Australian who has one,
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  Speaker 9: delivering tax cuts for every Australian.
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  Speaker 3: And of course they promise to help mortgage holders, but
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  Speaker 3: too bad if you own a home because rates have
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  Speaker 3: gone up twelve times and when the going got tough,
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  Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers blamed the RBA for smashing households with higher
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  Speaker 3: interest rates during a cost of living crisis, all the
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  Speaker 3: while record government spending fueled inflation.
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  Speaker 2: The only time federal.
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  Speaker 3: Government spending has been this large was in the early
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  Speaker 3: stages of the COVID pandemic.
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  Speaker 2: Big Australia got bigger.
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  Speaker 3: A record one point one five million migrants have come
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  Speaker 3: to this country since labor came to office. Population growth
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  Speaker 3: is masking a per capita recession fueled by record migration numbers,
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  Speaker 3: all of course, at the expense of families, all at
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  Speaker 3: the expense of household budgets, and all the while interest
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  Speaker 3: rates remain high once again.
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  Speaker 2: We are all poorer for it.
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  Speaker 3: Joining me now is Shadow Environment Minister Jonathan Dunham. Jonathan,
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  Speaker 3: good to see you again, Thanks for joining me. How
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  Speaker 3: do you do you interpret today's inflation data?
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  Speaker 10: Well, these numbers bear out and confirm everything we've been
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  Speaker 10: saying all along and something Australians have known for a
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  Speaker 10: long time, and that is a government that has such
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  Speaker 10: a poor track record when it comes to managing that
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  Speaker 10: finite resource, taxpayers money and spending it like there's no tomorrow,
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  Speaker 10: are driving up inflation. Their inability to rain in expenditure
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  Speaker 10: expenditure that is, government expenditure driving up inflation is what
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  Speaker 10: is going to be putting off for an extended period
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  Speaker 10: of time. The capacity for the Reserve Bank to bring
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  Speaker 10: down interest rates to give Australian households a break.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you've already mentioned it.
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  Speaker 10: Countries like the US Canada, for example, they're seeing interest
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  Speaker 10: rate cuts because those governments there have been able to
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  Speaker 10: do things to bring down inflation to enable their reserve
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  Speaker 10: banks to do what residents in those countries need. Our
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  Speaker 10: government here, this labor government, has gone in the wrong direction.
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  Speaker 10: And every day for the last two and half years
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  Speaker 10: they've been telling Australians, they've had it under control. Well,
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  Speaker 10: the chickens are coming home to roost.
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  Speaker 1: I just hope.
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  Speaker 10: Australians on election day remember these and know that they
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  Speaker 10: can't have three more years of the same bookcase.
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  Speaker 1: It'll get much much worse.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and as I showed that graft there from Comsec,
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  Speaker 3: electricity spike dramatically in November. Except we keep getting told
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  Speaker 3: that they're going to be cheaper under Labor. It's just
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  Speaker 3: completely phony.
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  Speaker 2: Now let's talk.
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  Speaker 3: About power bills because the cost of Labour's renewables.
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  Speaker 2: Only experiment has been revealed.
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  Speaker 3: According to research by Queensland's Griffith University, the cost of solar,
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  Speaker 3: wind batteries, hydro and gas assets need to.
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  Speaker 2: Get close to get to net.
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  Speaker 3: Zero other rather will be about three hundred billion compared
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  Speaker 3: to the current system's worth of one hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 3: six billion. Now, Jonathan, that is thirty percent more expensive.
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  Speaker 3: Our bills are already.
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  Speaker 2: Higher under Labor as it is now.
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  Speaker 3: It's green fantasy is likely going to cost us more
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  Speaker 3: and more in this desperate of net zero.
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  Speaker 2: How is it sustainable?
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  Speaker 10: Denkret's not sustainable. That is the pure truth of the matter.
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  Speaker 10: This blind pursuit of this ideological goal to get to
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  Speaker 10: net zero by a certain date, come hell or high
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  Speaker 10: water is costing us more and Australians didn't need another
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  Speaker 10: report to confirm something. They're all feeling that on average
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  Speaker 10: across the country, power bills have gone up since the
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  Speaker 10: election around one thousand bucks per household per year and
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  Speaker 10: it's a huge amount of money that could have otherwise
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  Speaker 10: gone into reducing a mortgage, or putting food on the table,
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  Speaker 10: or even heaven forbid, taking your family on a holiday.
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  Speaker 10: So the government should stop ignoring the facts here and
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  Speaker 10: adjust their policy direction. Stop being petulant and having your
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  Speaker 10: head in the sand, and open your mind to the
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  Speaker 10: nuclear debate. Don't be opposed to new gas projects and
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  Speaker 10: retaining the coal fired power station so we.
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  Speaker 1: Can keep stability in the and drive down prices.
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  Speaker 10: The reality is, as you say, it's not sustainable, and
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  Speaker 10: it's your viewers who are going to be footing the bill,
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  Speaker 10: and it's going to get worse before it gets better
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  Speaker 10: and less things change.
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  Speaker 3: And it's interesting because that research also said that electrification
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  Speaker 3: where for example, some gas appliances are banned. We know
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  Speaker 3: that that's happening in a number of new home fit
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  Speaker 3: outs and parts of the country. But they're saying that
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  Speaker 3: that can actually increase the demand for electricity. Where are
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  Speaker 3: we heading to, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 10: God Well, I think there's going to be quite a
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  Speaker 10: few blackouts, brand outs on the like I mean the
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  Speaker 10: simple laws of economics where you've got a situation where
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  Speaker 10: demand is outstripping supply, which is what's happening here. And
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  Speaker 10: as you say, there are jurisdictions, I think like Victoria
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  Speaker 10: where our band new gas appliances in new builds. You've
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  Speaker 10: got this federal government trying to get people to take
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  Speaker 10: up evs even if they're not suitable. That's going to
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  Speaker 10: drive up the demand for electricity as well. Just means
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  Speaker 10: we're going to have combined with unreliable sources of energy
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  Speaker 10: generation like solder and wind because as we know, the
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  Speaker 10: sun doesn't chante at night and the wind always doesn't
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  Speaker 10: always blow. We don't have enough hydro and the gas
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  Speaker 10: projects that we need to come online aren't under this government,
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  Speaker 10: they're shutting down the cul fired power stations. We will
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  Speaker 10: have reduced reliability when they have increased demand and reduced supply.
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  Speaker 10: And again to our earlier point, higher power prices, which
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  Speaker 10: means household's paying more, business is paying more, and that
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  Speaker 10: is bad for the entire country.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi is on a really negative quasi election campaign
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  Speaker 3: across parts of the country right now, and I've got
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  Speaker 3: to say he's just obsessed with Peter Dutton at the moment,
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  Speaker 3: but he's also obsessed with snapping at reporters at the
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  Speaker 3: same time. Now he claims that Peter Dutton would jeopardize
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  Speaker 3: Australia's a green manufacturing future.
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  Speaker 2: Have a listen to this.
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  Speaker 9: Peter Dutton doesn't have a plan for the future. Here
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  Speaker 9: is a plan to stop investment in Australia if we
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  Speaker 9: are really smart, where there is no country better positioned
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  Speaker 9: to take advantage of the opportunity that is there from
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  Speaker 9: the transformation to net zero that is happening globally than Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan, It's as if he's run out of material because
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  Speaker 3: every day for the last week, all we've heard is
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  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton, Peter Dutton, Peter Dutton.
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  Speaker 2: When is he actually going.
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  Speaker 3: To sell us his policies as opposed to criticizing Peter
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  Speaker 3: Dutton all the time?
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  Speaker 10: We do well to focus on the voters, perhaps rather
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  Speaker 10: than his opponents. I mean that is someone who has
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  Speaker 10: run out of ideas right there, if they're speaking about
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  Speaker 10: their opponent all the time, and the risk that might
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  Speaker 10: be presented if someone happens to vote for them.
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  Speaker 1: But again, given he made all of.
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  Speaker 10: These promises he's now broken in his first term around
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  Speaker 10: cost of living, around how he's growing the economy, et cetera,
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  Speaker 10: et cetera, and now has been proven to have broken
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  Speaker 10: nearly all of them. I guess he's a little risk
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  Speaker 10: averse when it comes to making promises. But I mean
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  Speaker 10: if he talks about people that are a risk to
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  Speaker 10: investment in this country, he should turn around and look
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  Speaker 10: in his own cabinet room and look around the table
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  Speaker 10: at the ministers.
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  Speaker 1: There's a stocking project.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, you've got an environment minister who thought it
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  Speaker 10: was a good idea to block a gold mine that
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  Speaker 10: would have generated a billion dollars of economic activity eight
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  Speaker 10: hundred jobs in a regional town because of a blue
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  Speaker 10: banded dreaming story from a small group of local Indigenous Australians.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, you want to talk about blocking investment, well, mate,
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  Speaker 10: you've got to do something about your own government. Stop
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  Speaker 10: talking about Dutton and start talking about what you're going
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  Speaker 10: to do to make the country a better place.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely spot on.
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  Speaker 3: Now I want to just ask you about critical minerals
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  Speaker 3: because there's been a doubling up of green tape as
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  Speaker 3: well as mandatory indigenous consultations, all sparked by Anthony Aarberanesi's
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  Speaker 3: Future Made in Australia agenda. It's got the minerals sector worry.
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  Speaker 3: They say that it will threaten the development of the
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  Speaker 3: industry as well as hamper the nation's chances of competing
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  Speaker 3: with China. Jonathan, that's the warning from the Minerals Council
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  Speaker 3: of Australia.
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  Speaker 2: What exactly is Albo.
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  Speaker 3: Doing to the mining industry in this country.
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  Speaker 10: Well, he's telling the mind in mining industry that he's
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  Speaker 10: got their back, that he's going to support them and
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  Speaker 10: he's going to make sure that they have a strong
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  Speaker 10: future here. But nothing he does actually bears that out.
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  Speaker 10: He took his entire cabinets late last year over to
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  Speaker 10: Perth to tell them that he's going to work with
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  Speaker 10: them to ensure that they will be able to mine
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  Speaker 10: where they need to and have no sovereign risk issues.
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  Speaker 10: But then flies back to the East Coast and continues
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  Speaker 10: to block projects through his laws that he refuses to fix,
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  Speaker 10: and with ministers that are doing everything they can to
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  Speaker 10: block these projects. And when we talked about one just before,
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  Speaker 10: the blaming gold mine, and there are countless others across
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  Speaker 10: the country that we depend on for energy, for resources
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  Speaker 10: to manufacture and without mentioning the hundreds, if not thousands
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  Speaker 10: of jobs, but there is no sign of policy reform
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  Speaker 10: in this area.
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  Speaker 1: To support this industry.
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  Speaker 10: And while they focus on critical minerals, it is the
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  Speaker 10: entire mining sector and other parts of our economy like forestry, farming,
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  Speaker 10: fisheries that they have laws that strangle these sectors because
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  Speaker 10: none of these industries are popular in downtown Melbourne and Sydney.
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  Speaker 10: And that's what this government is all about, pandering to
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  Speaker 10: those voters in inner city seats, worrying about the Greens
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  Speaker 10: nipping at their heels electorally and sacrificing regional Australia and
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  Speaker 10: all the jobs out there that we need.
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  Speaker 1: As the price for winning the next election.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and making us look like fools on the world
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  Speaker 3: stage by wrecking the sector. Jonathan Dunham, good to have
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  Speaker 3: you on. Thank you so much for joining me on
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  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 2: This evening.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we've been speaking about power prices, and yet the
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  Speaker 3: warnings keep on coming that Labour's green dream is sending
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  Speaker 3: us broke and backwards. The Victorian Government's aggressive electrification of
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: the power network is likely to result in mass blackouts,
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  Speaker 3: with demand forecast to outweigh renewable energy supply by.
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  Speaker 2: More than thirty percent in some months. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Our report has warned there will be blackouts across the
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  Speaker 3: state during colder months, while Victorians will be stung with
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  Speaker 3: Australia's most expensive power bills. Joining me now is The
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  Speaker 3: Herald's sons Patrick Carline. Patrick, nice to see you, Thanks
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  Speaker 3: for joining me. Whatever happened to power bills going down
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  Speaker 3: under renewables.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're just going to go up, aren't they. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we're seeing more and more evidence of this, and it's
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  Speaker 4: all about this. You call it a green dream. I'd
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  Speaker 4: call it an ideological illusion that somehow renewables could power
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  Speaker 4: everything in a way that we could reject fossil fuels,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's gas or coal or nuclear for that matter.
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  Speaker 4: We need fossil fuels as it is to actually turn
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  Speaker 4: the lights on, and we're going to see that more
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  Speaker 4: and more often. These threats of blackouts or branouts or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And it's all because it's all very predictable, and it's
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  Speaker 4: all because of this sort of false wreck trick. If
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  Speaker 4: you like that we're going to be totally renewable, it
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  Speaker 4: can't happen. It just simply can't happen.
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  Speaker 3: But the other issue is is though the warnings patrick
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  Speaker 3: have been there for some time, Victoria is always warned
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  Speaker 3: about this. During the winter cold snap, Victoria was warned
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  Speaker 3: here in New South Wales. It wasn't even summer at
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  Speaker 3: that point, it was late November. We were told to
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: turn the power off between three and eight pm because
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  Speaker 3: the grid simply couldn't cope. AEMO has been warning how
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  Speaker 3: many more warnings do you need? Why won't labor take
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: this threat seriously?
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why they're you know, very quietly extending the
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: life spans of these coal fired power stations in Victoria.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: We've got lots of gas you know, underground and offshore,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: but we haven't developed it over the last ten years,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: and so Victoria is facing a situation where it will
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: probably have to import gas, even though gas has been
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: demonized for years. As you know, this fossil fuel that
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: we must stamp out. We're going to be importing gas
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: most likely to actually keep the lights on. So you've
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: got this weird game being played where you've got the
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: public sort of face, you know, let's go green, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: at the same time they're actually trying to shore up
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: supplies with coal or with gas to make sure that
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: the lights will stay on.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: It's just absolutely phony.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: And I was even thinking about Victoria's lay Yang. Remember
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: it went offline during a freak storm and it put
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: you know, fifty thousand plus people out of power.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Again.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: You can't just rely on the grid like this. It's
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: just completely dysfunctional.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Right now now, I want to move on to another topic, Patrick,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: because the departing de facto Palestinian ambassador to Australia has
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: predicted that a re elected Albanesi government would recognize a
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Palestinian state. As he's also praise Labor for daring to
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: repeatedly anger Israel and break with the United States.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And it stands on the Middle East.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, who would have thought he was out Anthony
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Alberanzi speaking about that today.
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: Oh, look, we have a position where we support a
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: two state solution. The that quite clearly at the moment.
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: What we want to see is peace and security for
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: Israel in the region, but also we want to see
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: an end to conflict. I think that's what most of
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: the strains overwhelmingly want to see in the region. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: we have had a long standing bipartisan position in this
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: country of support for two states in the Middle East.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Well, Patrick, it doesn't fill you with much hope when
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Penny Wong's already sold out our votes, our values for
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: votes on the world stage when she voted for Palestinian
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: statehood at the United Nations.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: So what on earth is Anthony? But is he talking about.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I think that the likelihood of a two state
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: solution right now is probably the least likely it has
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: been since nineteen forty eight. The Jewish community has felt
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: terribly let down. We've seen outbreaks of anti Semitism. They're
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: getting more and more common, it seems. And you've got
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Penny Wong sort of complete, simplistically, sort of describing a
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: situation in the Middle East that really doesn't exist. I mean,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Israel was defending itself, it's fighting for its existence, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the Jewish people here who have been here for generations,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: who are good citizens, have been completely let down, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: you know the Labor Party is the Albanesi government has
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: basically tried to sort of appease the Palestinian electorate for
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: the upcoming federal election and at the same time trying
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: to sort of pay lip service to the Jewish community
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: and the Jewish Ultimately, the Jewish community has been totally
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: let down.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, And you've got this de facto Palestinian ambassador
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: believing that the government will indeed recognize Palestine. There was
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: a comment made by somebody in the Palestinian network, one
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: of those groups recently that said Anthony Albanesi is the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: best friend that Palestine's ever had in the lodge. What
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: sort of a message is this sending to the Jewish
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: community in this country, which is already on edge, suffering
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: day in day out with anti Semitic attacks.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Bob Hawk will be turning in his grave at he
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: was a friend of Israel. He supported what they were about.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: It was a democracy surrounded by tyrannies in the Middle East.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: He backed it all the way. And now you've got
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: this hard left sort of element dictating national policy in
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: a way that's really at odds with what we know
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: and what we thought. We knew and really disregards generations
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: of Jewish Australians who have done really well being in
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Australia and have really contributed.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: It's really disappointing.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: And then you've got a situation Patrick, where we're now
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: sending the Attorney General over to Israel to try and
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: quickly men relations.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: What is that going to achieve? That the horse has
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: already bolted. It bolted the.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Day after the October seven massacre on the steps of
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: the Sydney Opera House. That's what it should have started, Patrick,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And now we're quickly playing catch up by sending the
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Attorney General over there.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw when Penny Wong went over there, she
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: didn't even visit, a very simple a gesture not to
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: visit the sites of the massacres. And we've seen that
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: all the way through. I agree with you, Danika. It
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: had to be stamped on from October eighth, when we
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: first started seeing those dreadful protests, that the anti Jewish
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: rehetoric was allowed to go unchecked, and it's been virtually
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: unchecked ever since. In a way, how do you get
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: it back to where it ought to be. They're certainly
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: not doing a good job of trying to get it back,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: are they.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: No, The horse is well and truly bolted, and once
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: again at the expense of Jewish Australians. Patrick Carline, nice
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: to speak with you. Thank you very much for joining
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: me on the show this evening. We'll stay with us
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: after the break.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Airbus Elbow is everywhere and nowhere. He's made a visit
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to the Top End, but apparently.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Has no time to visit youth crime ground zero, Alice
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Springs or Tenant Creek.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: What message does this send more after the break welcome
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: back well.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Anthony Albaneze is everywhere and yet nowhere. This week, first
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: he visited Queensland to go and splash some cash. Now
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: he's in the Top End with his acubra in hand,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: visiting a cattle station.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: But there is one place he's.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Failed to include on his itinery Alice Springs, a place
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: considered ground zero for youth crime in the territory where
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: South Australian Police officers have recently been deployed amid ongoing crime,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: including the alleged assault of a two month old baby.
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: I have been to the Northern Territory twelve times as
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: Prime Minister. That is more times than the three previous
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: prime ministers went during what was almost a decade. In
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: two and a half years. I've been to Nulham Boy,
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: I've been to Catherine, I've been to Darwin. I've been
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: to Alice Springs. I've been to Ularu and now I'm
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: going to a cattle farm. The property owners came to
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: see me with Bob Catter just last year. They invited
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: me to go.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: No, he doesn't get it, does He's everywhere except for
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Alice Springs. And let's not forget the Prime Minister's last
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: trip there when he was dragged up to Alice Springs,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: but only because he was kicking and screaming. He posed
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: for the cameras a couple of photo opportunities and there
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: he is flew to the Australian Open the next day.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I scream in hand everywhere and nowhere joining me is Skyny.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: His contributors Louise Roberts and Evelyn Ray.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Hi to both of you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me on the show
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: this evening. Loise, why bother going up to the top
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: end and leaving Alice Springs out, which is still in
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the middle of a youth crime crisis. It hasn't ended
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: since he went there and posted for the cameras twelve
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: months ago.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: In fact, it has got worse. As we said in
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: that introduction, where are his priorities.
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: Well, they're not in Alice. He's clearly got a problem
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: with Alice Springs. As she said, he went there last
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: year kicking and screaming. I think he spent more time
• 25:54
  Speaker 11: traveling to Alice Springs that he actually did with the
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: locals themselves. And interestingly, he appointed a Central Australia Regional
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: Controller in January last year and her job was to
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: sort out DV and sought out youth crime.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: That job was quietly.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Axed in December.
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: So that just shows you what his priorities are as
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: far as that area is concerned. While the rest of
• 26:13
  Speaker 11: us in the country can think if two month old
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: babies are being assaulted and we know about that, what
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: else is happening behind the scenes. And in an election
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: year when he's in election mode, he doesn't want to
• 26:23
  Speaker 11: go anywhere that's too awkward or it's going to raise
• 26:25
  Speaker 11: any questions. But all this is done by not going
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: to other springs has put the spotlight right back on
• 26:30
  Speaker 11: it and his priorities.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Your spot on this is exactly what it's done. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: you know, we speak to people in Ala Springs here
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: on Sky News all the time and they're struggling out
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: their business owners. People are genuinely fearful. Still nothing has
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: changed in the last twelve months. They've had lockdowns. It's unsuccessful.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: There is a real pattern of violence and crime up
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: in Nalla Springs and the Prime Minister, the leader of
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: this country, should be there to help sort it out.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Evelyn.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: What does this say about what the Prime Minister really
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: cares about.
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: Look, it says exactly what the Voice referendum said, which
• 27:03
  Speaker 12: is that Albineazi is completely out of.
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: Touch with the Australian people.
• 27:08
  Speaker 12: I mean, from the outside, it seems that he cares
• 27:11
  Speaker 12: more about how bad the photo op would be as
• 27:14
  Speaker 12: opposed to the community that.
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: Is up there.
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: You know, this is the man who backed the Yes campaign,
• 27:20
  Speaker 12: which many interpreted the messaging as you know, without the Voice, the.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: Indigenous communities are voiceless.
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: That without the voice, they have no hope, that without
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: the voice.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: They have no future.
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: You know, some of the most shameful political messaging I've ever.
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: Seen come from any campaign before. And he's supposed to
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: then go into their communities.
• 27:38
  Speaker 12: Ones that actually do need help and face them after
• 27:41
  Speaker 12: supporting that type of messaging. I'm sorry, but he's a
• 27:45
  Speaker 12: bit too much of a coward, and I think that's
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: exactly what it is. He doesn't want to have to
• 27:49
  Speaker 12: face the music, because, like we said, this is worse.
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: Than we can absolutely imagine, you know.
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: And until politicians actually start staring the truth straight in
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: the face in front it, we're not going.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: To see any changes.
• 28:02
  Speaker 12: And that's very sad because they really do need our
• 28:04
  Speaker 12: help up there.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, they do need our help up there, and it
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: should be one of the number one priorities right now
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: is to sort out that crisis up in Alice Springs.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: But look, let's move on, because.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: An anti Israel activist is selling t shirts reading bash
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Zionists to raise money for Indigenous Australians and Palestinians in Gaza.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: These black t shirts with slogans in bold white writing
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: say bash Zionists, may God crush.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Them and support armed resistance.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: They're sold online nationwide and have been promoted at the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: El Sadiq Heidelberg Mosque in Melbourne by graphic designer Karla Scotto.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: The mosques.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Immam said he did not approve of the T shirts
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: and was unaware that they are being sold. Louise, the
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: messaging on these T shirts, that's an incitement to violence.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: It's calling for violence illegal and that is illegal against
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Jewish people. How can something like this be sold in
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: this country and no one's actually thought to go.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Get rid of it?
• 29:00
  Speaker 11: Well, it should be simple to fix in that way,
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: find out who's selling the T shirts and arrest them,
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: of course, But do we think that'll happen. Probably not,
• 29:07
  Speaker 11: because the government's lass a fair attitude to supporting Jewish
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: people and stomping all over anti semitism we know has
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: been diabolical. I mean we've got people putting swastikas on
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: line bikes, no consequences, We've got houses and cars being grafeited,
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: limited consequences. So someone selling T shirts this has to
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: be shut down. This is hate speech. As you say,
• 29:30
  Speaker 11: this is an excitement to violence. It has to be
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: shut down. So the community is saying, why isn't this
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: being fixed? And we're bewildered by it.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's illegal, it is Evelyn.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: In your view, does this go beyond free speech in
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: this country?
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: Look, I think definitely, Like there is incitement to violence.
• 29:49
  Speaker 12: It's inciting physical violence. There's absolutely no doubt to that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 12: But you know, I think that unfortunately, there are this
• 29:55
  Speaker 12: woke mind virus which thinks that saying things like that
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: is edgy and which it is completely not, and it
• 30:02
  Speaker 12: has actual consequences. But you know, this is unfortunately what
• 30:06
  Speaker 12: we've come to expect of political discourse today. You know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 12: gone of the days of civil debate, you know, civil
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: political debate.
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: Wouldn't that be lovely, wouldn't that be a time to
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: be alive?
• 30:16
  Speaker 12: But you know, Australia has these warring tribal factions that
• 30:21
  Speaker 12: just don't disagree with the other side. They despise them,
• 30:25
  Speaker 12: and more than that, they want.
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: To physically hurt them. You know, violence is now classified
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: as political speech. And you know what's really sad about
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: all of this is that innocent life.
• 30:37
  Speaker 12: Is precious, regardless of what side of the war that
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: you're on. But unfortunately, the people who are genuinely advocating
• 30:44
  Speaker 12: for the innocent lives, whether they be in Israel or Palestine,
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: that messaging is totally lost when you have this sort
• 30:52
  Speaker 12: of violent rhetoric, and it's very sad for the you know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 12: people who are watching babies burn over there on each side.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: To see this sort of politic could discourse.
• 31:01
  Speaker 12: Undermine any sort of you know, advocating for those lives.
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: So I'm disappointed that we're seeing this, and.
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: I think that the victims caught up in this world
• 31:11
  Speaker 12: will be very disappointed as well.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jewish Australians who again are living in fear
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: in this country.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: It's outrageous.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Now Australia has canceled fewer than five visas for anti
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Semitic conduct since Humas's October seven terror attack.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: That's according to new figures.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: The Opposition Home Affairs spokesperson James Patterson said if Tony
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Burke doesn't have the stomach to make tough decisions in
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the national interest to protect Australians, he should step aside
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: for a Minister for Home Affairs.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Who is Louise you Labor.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Even the other day, Anthony Abernez came out again his
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: same repeated lines of we have no tolerance for anti
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Semitism in this country.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: It's a repeated line. But they're not willing to do
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: anything about it. That's the problem here.
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: Surely the proof is in the doing, is arresting these
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: people and convicting them of hate crime, deporting them from
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: the country.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: We don't want them here.
• 31:59
  Speaker 11: They can do their it's viewing somewhere else, not in Australia,
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: not hurting our community, our precious Australian Jewish.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Community as well.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: And I wonder whether there's an.
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: Issue with our Migration Act, whether the criteria is too broad.
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: Maybe they need to look at that and make it
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: more narrow so these people are automatically deported from the
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: country when they're doing things like this.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I've said there has to be better screaming screening full stop.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, we know that there were a number of
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Palestinians from Gaza that were let in with little to
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: no security screening, and now we find that there's only
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: about five visas who.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Have been canceled.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Ever, how much of this do you think has to
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: do with protecting votes in seats with a high Muslim population.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: Well, we're coming up.
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: To an election, you know, this year, and Labor's certainly
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: not going into it with a lot of hope.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 12: I think they all know how miserably they've failed the
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: Australian public.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: We're all worse off today than we were.
• 32:49
  Speaker 12: Before, So that is in no doubt at the front
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: of their minds and everything that they do, they're going
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: to treade carey because.
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: They know they're not going to win anyone.
• 32:59
  Speaker 12: Over at this point, you know. But I do just
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: want to say this. I think when it comes to
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: the question of tolerating anti Semitism or speech, I just
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: think we need to be very careful and clear about
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: what the definition of that is. Because we have the
• 33:13
  Speaker 12: Crimes Act, we have all kinds of law already in
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: this country which can be used to stop inciting violence
• 33:22
  Speaker 12: and things like that.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: And I guess the.
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: Question is, why isn't it being used if that's what's happening.
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: So I'd like to know the.
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: Definition of these sorts of things and why, if it
• 33:32
  Speaker 12: meets the criteria, why those things haven't been taken up
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: by law enforcement yet. But I just want to say this,
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: and I think this is important, you know.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: Flip the coin on the other side. As soon as
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: you make laws.
• 33:43
  Speaker 12: That ban people from saying things, and I'm not talking
• 33:47
  Speaker 12: about violence or you know, physical things like that, but
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: as soon as you make laws that prosecute.
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: People for saying things.
• 33:55
  Speaker 12: You're going to make martyrs out of anyone prosecuted by
• 33:59
  Speaker 12: those laws.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: So I think in Australia we.
• 34:01
  Speaker 12: Have to be very careful because sometimes that can even
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: validate messages in the minds of people. So I just
• 34:08
  Speaker 12: would tread carefully how we deal with this, because I
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: don't really feel like making martyrs out of really bad people.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I take your point, and I think it's a fair point.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: It's a fine line we have to walk. But I
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: think in the end, if you do not represent the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: values that we stand for in this country, off you go.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Seriously.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I'll open the door for you, see Elanna, because and
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: that's the problem here that we're having in this country.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Our fibers that make this country great are under a
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: lot of pressure at the moment. Evelyn Ray, Luise Roberts,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: we have to leave it there.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me on the show
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: this evening. We'll stay with us after the break.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: We'll head to the UK to understand the growing grooming
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: gang scandal and why it's important to acknowledge how authorities
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: covered up religious and ethnic crimes because of political correctness.
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  Speaker 2: That's next.
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  Speaker 3: Well, by now you would have heard of the grooming
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: gang scandal in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: This is important to talk.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: About about how authorities covered up religious and ethnic crimes
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  Speaker 3: because of political correctness, and it has happened here in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: I'll explain how in a moment.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: But in the UK this all started back in two
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: thousand and three when a group of mothers pleaded for
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: help to protect their young daughters from their Pakistani boyfriends.
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  Speaker 3: But social services and the police failed to see it
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: as a crime and were petrified of being called racist.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: But it was worse than those mothers could have thought.
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  Speaker 3: There was a repeated pattern of sexual offending across several towns,
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  Speaker 3: involving groups of older men who groomed and abused girls
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  Speaker 3: aged between eleven and sixteen after meeting them on the street.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: There was a culture of silence, a cover up of sorts,
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  Speaker 3: until a Times investigation found counsels, charities and police forces
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  Speaker 3: were publicly denying ethnicity had any relevance to the pattern
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  Speaker 3: of crime. They covered it up because they were protecting
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  Speaker 3: Pakistani men.
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  Speaker 2: They covered it up out of fear of being called racist.
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  Speaker 3: Conveniently, Prime Minister Kirstarmer, who was head of Public Prosecutions
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: at the time of the attacks, has said that a
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: new inquiry is not needed.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: You might remember some similar claims were made here in
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Australia back in two thousand the scaf Gang rapes, where
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: a gang of Lebanese Australian Muslim youths went on a
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: rampage targeting young non Muslim girls. At least six innocent
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: girls age sixteen to eighteen were targeted. The attacks were
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: so degrading and demeaning the judge.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Described them as worse than murder.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Victims were told by members of the gang you deserve
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: it because.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: You're Australian, and that they were ossie pigs. Just like
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: in the UK.
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  Speaker 3: There were claims that the left here sought to suppress
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: the truth, claiming there were no religious or racial motivations.
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  Speaker 3: Yet one of the victims here later complained in her
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: victim impact statement that it had been censored of ethnic
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: references by prosecutors. And so multiculturalism, political correctness and fear
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: of being called racist is apparently more important than the
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: safety of girls and women. And right now there is
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: a real scandal unfolding in the UK and to go
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: through it all, I'm joined by News Corp Europe correspondent
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Sophie Ellsworth Sophie, thank you so much for joining me
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: on this very important matter. Why has the grooming gang
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: scandal suddenly re emerged now because it feels like for
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: the first time, I mean, this happened years ago, but
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: for the first time the truth is finally being exposed.
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  Speaker 5: Great to be with you, Jeneka.
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  Speaker 13: Look, it's been reignited in recent weeks because there were
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: calls for a national inquiry into the grooming gang scandal
• 37:46
  Speaker 13: that involves hundreds of young girls. Now what has happened
• 37:50
  Speaker 13: is this Safeguarding Minister here in the UK, Jess Phillips,
• 37:53
  Speaker 13: has said no, we do not need a national inquiry
• 37:57
  Speaker 13: and that's resulted in this outrage that's got owner Elon
• 38:01
  Speaker 13: Musk involved, who's been throwing attacks at the kir Ka Starma,
• 38:06
  Speaker 13: the UK Prime Minister and also the Safeguarding Minister saying
• 38:10
  Speaker 13: that we should be having a national inquiry. So it's
• 38:13
  Speaker 13: really sparked the debate back up, saying that not enough
• 38:16
  Speaker 13: was done at the time. There needs to be further
• 38:18
  Speaker 13: investigation into this and that's why it's been in the
• 38:22
  Speaker 13: news again now.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: And let's not forget this was a mass rape of
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: white girls at the hands of predominantly Pakistani men and
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: their cases were not investigated because of racial sensitivities.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Sophie, this is a scandal.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: How were they so badly failed by authorities.
• 38:40
  Speaker 13: Well, the argument here by the Labor government, including Prime
• 38:43
  Speaker 13: Minister Secre Starmer, is that there were multiple inquiries into this.
• 38:47
  Speaker 13: There were multiple investigations. A report was handed down in
• 38:51
  Speaker 13: twenty twenty two. Mind you, a lot of the recommendations
• 38:54
  Speaker 13: are yet to be implemented. So basically the government is
• 38:57
  Speaker 13: saying this has been dealt with, and then he's.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Gone on the attack.
• 39:01
  Speaker 13: So Kiir has gone on the attack of il Musk
• 39:04
  Speaker 13: and says that he's basically saying people and the far
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: right are spreading misinformation about this issue and basically that
• 39:12
  Speaker 13: it has been dealt with. He was the head of
• 39:15
  Speaker 13: the DPP here, he was in charge when some of
• 39:18
  Speaker 13: this investigations were taking place, and that has been some
• 39:22
  Speaker 13: of the argument of whether or not. This has been
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: the reason why the government does not actually want to
• 39:28
  Speaker 13: take this further and have a national inquiry.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: But this is a scandal. This is the thing I
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: don't understand, Sophie. And on the other side of the world,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: this is a scandal it's making international headlines.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: How is it that the Prime Minister of the country, Keir.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Starmer, does not want an inquiry into this, does not
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: want to get to the bottom of how so many
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: young girls were failed.
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: Well, Jenka, like I said, he's saying, this matter has
• 39:54
  Speaker 13: been dealt with. This investigation has been dealt with. There's
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: been multiple inquiries. Look on Talk fac Ra. This is
• 40:00
  Speaker 13: dominating every day the papers, it's headlines, front pages.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: But the argument from the government is.
• 40:07
  Speaker 13: It has been dealt with and investigations have been taken place.
• 40:11
  Speaker 13: Inquiries have been taken place. Then the argument also by
• 40:14
  Speaker 13: them is the Conservatives were in power for fourteen years,
• 40:17
  Speaker 13: they could have done this too. But the Conservatives have
• 40:20
  Speaker 13: come out on the attack and said they need to
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: have this new inquiry.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: So it's really become a political war.
• 40:27
  Speaker 13: But there's been a lot of outrage because Sir Kia
• 40:29
  Speaker 13: said that this is the far right teddling misinformation and
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: that has just drawn the aire many people over here.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: It's also just insulting to the victims. It's just unbelievable.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: And can I ask you, Sophia, you're doing a great
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: job over there covering this awful story.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: What does it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Say about how political correctness and hurt feelings over in
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: the UK was more important than the safety of these
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: young girls.
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: Well, I think, Danika, the real issue here that has
• 41:03
  Speaker 13: been talked about is it comes back to the problem
• 41:05
  Speaker 13: of migration, and this is often discussed here in the
• 41:09
  Speaker 13: UK that there's too many migration migrants coming into the
• 41:12
  Speaker 13: country it's causing problems. Obviously, these grooming gangs were not
• 41:18
  Speaker 13: local people. They had come into the country, so it's
• 41:22
  Speaker 13: reignited that debate as well. So there's a lot of
• 41:24
  Speaker 13: moving parts here. But there's a lot of people very
• 41:28
  Speaker 13: angry about this and saying that it has not been
• 41:30
  Speaker 13: dealt with properly, and there's incredibly vulnerable people who were
• 41:34
  Speaker 13: seriously impacted by this.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: How do you see it playing out then, Sophie, Because
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: there are multiple calls for Kiirstarma to resign over this.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: What do you think will happen from here on in?
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Because this is not going to go away.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: This is a really really big problem right now. What
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: happens next?
• 41:54
  Speaker 13: Well, Denika, in the media, as you know, the caravan
• 41:58
  Speaker 13: moves on, the stories move. He has been in the
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: headlines for all the wrong reasons ever since he got
• 42:04
  Speaker 13: into office. He's had a shocking six months. He has
• 42:06
  Speaker 13: not had a honeymoon period. He's had so many issues
• 42:10
  Speaker 13: to deal with and this is one of many of them.
• 42:12
  Speaker 13: So it will continue to roll on, but for the moment,
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: this is one of the key shoes the government he's
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: having to deal with.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It's just shocking and as I said, this is a
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: scandal and a culture.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Of cover up.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable what happened to so many young girls
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: and it was all hush hush out of fear of
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: being called racist, political correctness and hurt feelings.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: It's just unfathomable.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Sophiel's Worth doing a really good job covering this very
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: difficult story. Thank you so much for joining me on
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: the show this evening. Well, let's move on now because
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: there has been a win for free speech and common sense. Overnight,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg has announced it will end fact
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: checking across all platforms. The fact checking program, which began
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: back in December twenty sixteen, will be replaced on Facebook
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: in ste Graham and Threads by a community notes feature
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: us seen that one before on X Try to Me
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Now is Skyty's host Liz Storer Liz, surely this is
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: the Donald Trump effect at work already.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Well, it clearly is.
• 43:14
  Speaker 14: But you've got to laugh because what we have here, Deniker,
• 43:17
  Speaker 14: is the guy who's insisted that Facebook isn't censoring's free
• 43:21
  Speaker 14: speech now coming out and promising that Facebook will now
• 43:25
  Speaker 14: cease to censor free speech. So I'm taking everything with
• 43:30
  Speaker 14: a cup of salts here. But two things. Firstly, this
• 43:34
  Speaker 14: doesn't apply to Australia. This is being rolled out in
• 43:37
  Speaker 14: the coming months in the US only, so sorry news
• 43:42
  Speaker 14: for US. You'd think that they would just do this
• 43:44
  Speaker 14: across their platforms. Secondly, what Zuckerberg has done here is
• 43:49
  Speaker 14: thrown the fact check as he employees under the bus, saying, look,
• 43:54
  Speaker 14: we're not going to do fact checking this way anymore
• 43:56
  Speaker 14: because we think that they are politically biased. We want
• 44:00
  Speaker 14: to stop that from happening. Well, the comedy keeps coming,
• 44:04
  Speaker 14: it writes itself these days. Because then The New York Times,
• 44:08
  Speaker 14: no sooner had he said this. The New York Times
• 44:11
  Speaker 14: came out with an article quoting the actual fact checkers
• 44:15
  Speaker 14: who had fact checked this statement from Zuckerberg, saying, hang
• 44:19
  Speaker 14: in a minute, we had nothing to do with We
• 44:23
  Speaker 14: had no say regarding what you did with the information
• 44:28
  Speaker 14: that we fact checked.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: So we'd do the fact checking as we're employed to do.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: You're the one who has.
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: Ripping stuff down and censoring things as you saw fit.
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: We also need to remind ourselves that this is the
• 44:40
  Speaker 14: same Zuckerberg who just months ago apologized to the world
• 44:46
  Speaker 14: for election interference.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: He outright admitted he had colluded.
• 44:50
  Speaker 14: With the Biden administration when they would write little memos
• 44:54
  Speaker 14: to him saying, please censor this, please take that down,
• 44:58
  Speaker 14: Please tell everyone that the Rush collusion hoax is real, etcetera,
• 45:01
  Speaker 14: and so on. He ran with an agenda without fact
• 45:05
  Speaker 14: checking those claims, and now we're supposed to believe that
• 45:08
  Speaker 14: this is all hunky dory.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: It certainly appears to be a move in.
• 45:12
  Speaker 14: The right direction, but it's a bit too early for
• 45:15
  Speaker 14: me to get too excited.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I agree, I think it's too early to get excited.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: It's complete capitulation, that's for sure. However, I just think
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: this is it's only because of Donald Trump, it's only
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: because as an administration, and they're all panicking now, as
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: they should be.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: But I mean, what does it mean for us here
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: back home?
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Because we've got Anthony Arberzi persisting with this social media.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Ban for under sixteens.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile the world is going, no, let's actually give online
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: platforms the freedom of speech. We are, once again here
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: in Australia is complete outlies to the rest of the world.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: Oh but you're in Australia, Denika.
• 45:47
  Speaker 14: We have the world first in our E Safety Commissioner.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Oh the za oh bza.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: So this is something that our government.
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: Not our people, have prided itself on for year. And
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: we know the E Safety Commissioner was the brainchild of
• 46:03
  Speaker 14: a coalition government, not the Labor government. Here's hoping all
• 46:08
  Speaker 14: fingers and toes crossed that this, even even the ban
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: on under sixteens, will be thrown out the window if
• 46:16
  Speaker 14: and when we see a liberal government take charge.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Well, they support that's the problem.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: They do support it.
• 46:23
  Speaker 14: But again with the turning of the tide that we
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: are seeing by the platforms themselves, they are flexing. We
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: know the E Safety Commissioner has been very unsuccessful in
• 46:34
  Speaker 14: her cases against X, which she used to be employed by.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: I just don't know that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 14: This is ever going to get up, And as everybody
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: already knows, I think that's a good thing because it's
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: got nothing.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: To do with protecting kids.
• 46:48
  Speaker 14: They've done nothing about that for years and years, despite
• 46:50
  Speaker 14: knowing it's a grave problem. It's got everything to do
• 46:53
  Speaker 14: with the fact that you're going to have to prove
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: your ID, you and me, because if you're proving to
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: any of these platforms that you're over sixteen, then that's
• 47:05
  Speaker 14: you and I in order to get on and use
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: these same platforms.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: We've got everything to do with digital idea.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Who knows what's going to happen with all of that information,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Where are they going to store it, Who's.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Going to happen as that is my concern.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: It is simply not a coincidence.
• 47:20
  Speaker 14: Just two weeks after they passed their digital ID bill
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: here in Australia they decided that, oh it's a massive
• 47:28
  Speaker 14: concern the toll that social media is taking on children.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Do it now.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: We are almost out of time, but very quickly.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: A last ditch appeal by Donald Trump to holt this
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: week's sentencing for hush money, that criminal conviction.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: It's been denied the President.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Alex lawyers were unable to convince the appeals court to
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: shut down sentencing.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Liz This really is a sham, now, isn't it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: It really is and yet the judges simply said, look,
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: let's get this out of the way on Friday. Obviously,
• 47:56
  Speaker 14: if it doesn't happen before Trump's inauguration, it will be
• 47:59
  Speaker 14: put off two after he's not president anymore, after which
• 48:02
  Speaker 14: everyone will really not.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: Care for it at all.
• 48:06
  Speaker 14: So his lawyers, though, us going to continue to do
• 48:10
  Speaker 14: everything they can to stave off this sentencing hearing on Friday.
• 48:15
  Speaker 14: So we still don't know whether it will actually go ahead. Obviously,
• 48:19
  Speaker 14: being Trump, you've got the best lawyers in the land.
• 48:21
  Speaker 14: But this five hundred and two page filing that they
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: tried on to get out of this time was unsuccessful.
• 48:28
  Speaker 14: Let's see what else they've got in their hats Friday.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Let's see. But it's just a sham. Now. In the end,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: this guy's going to be president of the United States,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: whether they like it or not.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the only question is that when they held be the.
• 48:39
  Speaker 14: First felons warning, we've.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Got to go. Good to see you.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me on the show
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: this evening. But that's all we've got time for. But
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: stay with us on Sky News. Up next is the
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Late Debate.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Good Night,