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Ep. 246: Rut Radio 10/31/18 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number two and
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Speaker 1: forty six, and today we are back with our RUT
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Speaker 1: Radio miniseries in which we hear from hunters all across
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Speaker 1: the country about the latest deer activity and behavior, the
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Speaker 1: progress of the white tail Rut, and the tactics that
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Speaker 1: are working right now. All right, welcome to the Wired
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Speaker 1: to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx, and today
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Speaker 1: we are back for RUT radio. And this is kind
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Speaker 1: of when RUT radio hits its stride, I feel, because
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Speaker 1: we are now there. In the words of I think
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Speaker 1: Bing Crosby, I think Frank Sinatra, I think just about
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Speaker 1: any probably Michael Bubla, Harry kind of JR. It's the
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Speaker 1: most wonderful time of year. I think they've all said
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Speaker 1: that on a song at some point, and and it
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Speaker 1: really is. It's not Christmas, it's the Rut. It's uh,
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Speaker 1: it's basically here because when this podcast drops is Halloween,
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Speaker 1: I think, and sweet November will be right at our fingertips.
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Speaker 1: And what we do here on RUT Radio if you're
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Speaker 1: not familiar, as we chat with hunters from all across
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Speaker 1: the country to get the latest and greatest on what's
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Speaker 1: happening in the woods right now. What's the progress of
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Speaker 1: the rut, What kind of sign are we seeing, what
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Speaker 1: kind of deer activity are we seeing? What are the
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Speaker 1: conditions and variables present that are impacting deer and deer hunting.
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Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff that we have for you today.
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Speaker 1: And Spencer new Heart is the man who goes out
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Speaker 1: and collects all that. Spencer, are you as excited as
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Speaker 1: I am? Yeah, I'm I'm echoing your enthusiasm for this
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Speaker 1: time of year because only on RUT Radio, we're going
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Speaker 1: to start hearing some things that involve rutting. So you
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Speaker 1: know you're gonna hear some pre rut stuff, talk about
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Speaker 1: seeking and chasing, all this stuff that gets you excited
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Speaker 1: for the end of October and the beginning of November. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I've we've been waiting all the year for this and
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Speaker 1: it's here. And uh, you, my friend, have a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a rut report that you could probably share,
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Speaker 1: Is that right? I heard you did some hunting in
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Speaker 1: South Dakota Yeah, I've been jumping around the state hunting
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Speaker 1: some different pieces and makes of public and private and uh,
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Speaker 1: basically from now to the next month, I'll be hunting
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Speaker 1: nearly every day and so uh, this last week was
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Speaker 1: really exciting. It was the stuff that makes archery hunting
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Speaker 1: super fun and super frustrating. Twice I had shooters uh
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Speaker 1: within forty five yards. It just never came together for
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Speaker 1: me where I was giving an opportunity. But I'm comforted
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Speaker 1: that it is the end of October and the best
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Speaker 1: is yet to come. But on both of those hunts,
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Speaker 1: it was dealing with deer that were acting how you
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Speaker 1: would think they would act this time of year. The
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Speaker 1: one buck came in tearing up some scrapes. The other
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Speaker 1: buck came through dogging a doll. Uh like basically the
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Speaker 1: middle of the afternoon. It was almost four hours before sunset.
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Speaker 1: So uh, the deer are doing what we want them
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Speaker 1: to now. I just got to be in the right
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Speaker 1: place at the right time. But Mark you, on the
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Speaker 1: other hand, you did get it done. Congrats on the
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Speaker 1: awesome Nebraska buck. Super proud and super jealous. I know
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Speaker 1: you're gonna say most of the story for your regular episode,
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Speaker 1: dropping on Thursday. But on that hunt of what kind
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Speaker 1: of running activity did you see? Yeah, well, thank you.
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Speaker 1: First off, it was it was really cool and as
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Speaker 1: far as the activity that I saw, I definitely was
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Speaker 1: seeing what you hope to see at the end of October.
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Speaker 1: Some of that pre rut leading into the right activity.
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Speaker 1: UM saw bucks making scrapes and saw bucks beginning to
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Speaker 1: cruise a little bit. I saw mature buck up on
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Speaker 1: his feet, probably similar to what you saw about four
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Speaker 1: hours before dark, cruising a river bottom. Almost got a
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Speaker 1: shot at him. And then about two hours before dark,
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Speaker 1: I saw another buck doing the same thing and I
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Speaker 1: did get a shot at him, and UM. Another thing
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Speaker 1: that he was doing related to running activity is that
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Speaker 1: he was very susceptible to calling. He definitely was rutted up,
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Speaker 1: fired up, and aggressive because I was able to call
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Speaker 1: him into range with a snort wheeze, So I got
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Speaker 1: really aggressive with that. Could tell he was probably the
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Speaker 1: big boss in the area, big rutted up neck, biggest
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Speaker 1: year I've seen down there, and UM decided to challenge
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Speaker 1: him and that worked. He came right in. So you know,
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Speaker 1: there were not a lot of deer in this area.
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Speaker 1: Without without sharing too much about the hunt. Very low
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Speaker 1: deer density. UM, So I wasn't seeing like tons of
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Speaker 1: chasing or scraping or anything, or sorry chasing or um
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Speaker 1: seeking or anything. But there was a little bit of
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Speaker 1: that cruising beginning. And um, like I said, calling worked
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Speaker 1: so as far as Nebraska, I'd give it like a
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Speaker 1: like a six or seven on the scale probably um,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's just gonna get better. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: this week on the episode, we talked to Hayden Krimmer
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Speaker 1: from Legendary White Tails Wisconsin, and then Hunter Forbes in
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Speaker 1: Kentucky from Southern White Tail Outfitters, and then Trent Siegel
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Speaker 1: in Kansas from Heartland Bow Hunter, and then in Georgia
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Speaker 1: from Georgia Field is Brian Grossman Excellence? Do we do
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Speaker 1: we have any themes yet in mind? Um, or anything
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Speaker 1: that's on your mind that you think is going to
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Speaker 1: be a theme based off of things we've seen traditionally
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Speaker 1: this time of year. Again, I'm gonna jump back to
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Speaker 1: last year's episodes. Last year we were hitting cold fronts
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Speaker 1: just perfectly timed. We talked about in last episode if
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Speaker 1: you pulled a lot of calendar and circled the dates,
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Speaker 1: he wanted cold fronts to rolland uh, we got them.
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Speaker 1: They were coming on the weekend. They were, you know,
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Speaker 1: happening right when some of the best running activity was happening.
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Speaker 1: That's not going to be the case this year. And
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Speaker 1: so you know, there'll be some nuanced stuff that we
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Speaker 1: talked about to help you kill him, ature buck. But
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Speaker 1: like you and Dan talked about on the getting ready
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Speaker 1: you for the Rut episode, the number one factor for
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Speaker 1: you killing a deer right now and just putting in
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Speaker 1: the time and being in the woods. Yeah, that's the truth.
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Speaker 1: And you know something that's worth noting. And this is
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Speaker 1: a hard lesson I learned a handful of years ago,
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Speaker 1: UM and me and Andy May when we were out
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Speaker 1: there in Nebraska, we were talking about this and how
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Speaker 1: we both had experienced it. Um. This being the fact
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Speaker 1: that during the rut sometimes you want to be careful
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Speaker 1: not to get too wrapped up in the weather conditions
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Speaker 1: and things like that and let those depress you in anyway. So,
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Speaker 1: for example, back in two thousand and fifteen, I was
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Speaker 1: out in Iowa and I was hunting, and I hit
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Speaker 1: this cold front and then a big warm spell came
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Speaker 1: through and it was gonna be in like the mid
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Speaker 1: to high seventies, and I just remember thinking, me and
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Speaker 1: all my friends were thinking, oh gosh, it's gonna ruin
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Speaker 1: on our rut vacation. Um, there's nothing, nothing's gonna be moving,
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Speaker 1: blah bla blah blah blah. And in most times of year,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna see this reduction and dear activity when it gets,
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Speaker 1: you know, unseasonably warm. And there was a reduction in
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Speaker 1: dear activity during that time period, but it is the rut,
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Speaker 1: and things still happened during the rut. And I because
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Speaker 1: I thought maybe I could cash in on get some
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Speaker 1: brownie points by going home, I decided to leave Iowa
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Speaker 1: for a couple of days, take care of some family
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Speaker 1: stuff during this warm spell, and then come back when
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Speaker 1: the temperatures start dropping again. During that two days that
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Speaker 1: I was gone, three of my friends all killed nice,
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Speaker 1: big mature bucks despite the warm weather. So it was
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Speaker 1: just a great reminder that you never want to get
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Speaker 1: too caught up in it during this time of year.
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Speaker 1: This it's it's the rut. You gotta be out there
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Speaker 1: whether it's seventy or thirty. Um, yeah, those colder days
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Speaker 1: might be better, but magical things can happen at any
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Speaker 1: time out there, so tree stand time is key. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and that goes for the other factors outside of weather
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Speaker 1: as well. Right now, the rut trumps everything and it's
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Speaker 1: not going to get better than what it's going to
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Speaker 1: be these next few weeks. Yeah, that's the truth. So
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Speaker 1: as you you kind of alluded to it. But if
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Speaker 1: you if you missed it last week's episode of Wired Hunt,
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Speaker 1: at the end of it, me and Dan kind of
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Speaker 1: shared some main rut hunting principles, definitely check that one
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Speaker 1: out for for a couple of this high level concepts
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Speaker 1: to be keeping in mind during these next couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks of hunting. Um. But if you'll allow me, Spencer,
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Speaker 1: do you want to do just one or two other
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Speaker 1: quick pieces of run hunting advice while we've got people
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Speaker 1: here before the reports. My my best advice isn't necessarily
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Speaker 1: something you can apply right now, and it would maybe
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Speaker 1: go back to what you were doing for the last
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Speaker 1: few months, But my best rut advice would be to
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Speaker 1: largely stay out of the areas that you consider your
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Speaker 1: best spots and uh, you know, the places that you
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Speaker 1: think you might be sitting all day come this time
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Speaker 1: of year. Because uh, it's only going to make things
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Speaker 1: better right now if if you haven't been in there
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Speaker 1: four or five times, and uh, if you just let
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Speaker 1: your trail camera soak in there, if you haven't been
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Speaker 1: hunting it and blowing deer out, that's gonna benefit you
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Speaker 1: in the long run. And so my best rut hunting
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Speaker 1: advice would be to, you know, stay out and take
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Speaker 1: things easy until right out. Yeah. So so that being said,
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Speaker 1: I guess I'll just reiterate that that stop saving stuff
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Speaker 1: just about now, like we're about time, it's about time
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Speaker 1: to go for it. Um. You know, as we get
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Speaker 1: into these first couple of weeks of November, now is
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Speaker 1: the point when you need to dive in and throw
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Speaker 1: some hail Mary's. And now is the time to go
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Speaker 1: sit that betting here, and now is the time to
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Speaker 1: dive into that deep funnel location, sit there all day. Um,
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Speaker 1: you gotta take every little trick you go out up
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Speaker 1: your sleeve and try it now because this is that
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Speaker 1: that moment when you can possibly capitalize on it. Um.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, put in the time, be aggressive when you
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Speaker 1: have to switch things up, and don't be afraid to
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Speaker 1: try new things. Um. But as I mentioned last week.
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Speaker 1: Whenever you're confused or starting to get frustrated, always go
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Speaker 1: back to the principles of pinch points and dough betting
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Speaker 1: areas and do activity areas and those things. As long
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Speaker 1: as you're hunting and somehow related to something like that,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be in a good position. And then, of course,
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Speaker 1: like I had success a couple of days ago, calling
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Speaker 1: can be particular the effective this time of year as well.
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Speaker 1: So snort weez is if you really want to get
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Speaker 1: really aggressive, maybe some extraus bleats rattling can work now.
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Speaker 1: And now is the time, kind of as I've been
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Speaker 1: saying several times, now, now is the time to try
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Speaker 1: these different things. So, um, I think what I'm sensing
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Speaker 1: is that I am rambling, And when I ramble, that's
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Speaker 1: usually a good sign that I should just stop and
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Speaker 1: let you continue the show Spencer with ourt radio guests.
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Speaker 1: So that sounds a good plan for you. That sounds
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Speaker 1: like a good plan. Congrats again, Mark on the great deer.
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Speaker 1: on the line first is Hayden Krimmer in Wisconsin from
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Speaker 1: legendary white Tails now Hayden in Wisconsin. What would you
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Speaker 1: say the buck activities ben lately on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten UM, I would say it's about a
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Speaker 1: seven right now. Um. Starting to see some more mid
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Speaker 1: day movement with some mature box and a lot of
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Speaker 1: younger bucks on their feet cruising their own checking for
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Speaker 1: those and so the midday movement that's something you've seen
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Speaker 1: in person, or that's what your trail cameras are telling you. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's something I've seen in person. UM. I was out
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Speaker 1: in western Wisconsin this weekend. I saw a mature a
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Speaker 1: mature buck at fourth or four thirty on Sunday and
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Speaker 1: at eleven thirty I saw that same buck on Saturday, so, UM,
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Speaker 1: they were definitely on their feet. We also had another
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Speaker 1: guying camp who killed the buck at eleven thirty on Sunday. UM,
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Speaker 1: he was following a hot doll and UM, the action
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Speaker 1: was definitely picking out during mid day. So what types
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Speaker 1: of areas are you focused on for these all day
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Speaker 1: sits in Wisconsin? UM, a lot of saddles and funnels.
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Speaker 1: I also UM focused a little bit on UM just
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Speaker 1: don win areas of betting as well as food sources.
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Speaker 1: So trying to be in areas where there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of thick cover around UM and just good funnels for
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Speaker 1: them to be working through. Checknford and does so would
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Speaker 1: you say that's the exact same types of areas that
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Speaker 1: you'll be focusing for like these next few weeks. As
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Speaker 1: the running gets better, Yeah, as the running gets better,
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Speaker 1: I definitely like to stay tight to betting, especially on
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Speaker 1: all day sets to feel like staying close to bedding
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Speaker 1: is the best call if there's a better chance that
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Speaker 1: you're going to catch a buck on its feet checking
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Speaker 1: those areas for dose. UM. But then in the same situation,
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Speaker 1: I like to be within the vicinity of some food
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Speaker 1: sources as well, because that's typically where the doughs are
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Speaker 1: gonna be. So you want to be in the areas
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Speaker 1: that the doughs are gonna be. Have you been doing
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Speaker 1: any calling there in Wisconsin yet? Yeah? So that in
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Speaker 1: time where I had with the mature buck at eleven
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Speaker 1: thirty on Saturday, he had came out into a cut
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Speaker 1: hay field with a dough and he worked a scrape
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Speaker 1: on the edge of the field and started working um
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Speaker 1: towards another bedding area. And when he got across the
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Speaker 1: field that I threw out a grunt at him and
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Speaker 1: he came on a bee line straight towards me. So UM,
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Speaker 1: the does Winz definitely wasn't hot since he reacted the
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Speaker 1: call like that, but it worked like the time I
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Speaker 1: grunted one time, Adam, and then UM was completely quiet
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Speaker 1: after that and he came right in. He ended up
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Speaker 1: working past me at thirty yards that couldn't get a
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Speaker 1: shot off because the bush is too sick. But that
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Speaker 1: was one of the best responses I've ever had to
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Speaker 1: grunk call. He definitely heard it and came straight in
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Speaker 1: on a string. You mentioned there that you were sitting
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Speaker 1: on a hay field. What do you think the food
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Speaker 1: sources look like right now in Wisconsin for someone looking
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Speaker 1: to kill the mature buck over these next few weeks.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's something that people don't always consider a ware
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Speaker 1: these deer feeding. But what have you been seeing? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so what I saw this weekend, the only time I
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Speaker 1: saw der feeding was out in the hayfield. The other
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Speaker 1: staying locations I was sitting, there wasn't a lot of UM,
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Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of other food around. There was some
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Speaker 1: natural brows, but I didn't see them stopping the brows
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Speaker 1: on any natural stuff. UM. A lot of the deer
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Speaker 1: I saw him the timber were if there are bucks,
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Speaker 1: their cruising looking for dose UM and then the dose
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Speaker 1: that I saw just and moved right past them, assuming
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Speaker 1: they were goingly to other food sources. UM. I think
15:48
Speaker 1: the natural browses kind of slowed down. I think they're
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Speaker 1: switching to more of that traditional food source. And definitely
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of feel I saw in that
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Speaker 1: cut hayfield even the middle of the day two o'clock
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Speaker 1: there um frequently coming and going out of that cut hayfield.
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Speaker 1: So are you starting to see some deer now in
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Speaker 1: areas that previously had only been spots that you were
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Speaker 1: finding nocturnal movement? Um? Not really. That was the first
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Speaker 1: time they had hunted that farm this year, so I
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Speaker 1: don't have much of the reference to go off of.
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Speaker 1: But before a couple of weeks ago, I was seen
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Speaker 1: a lot of browsing on acorns and natural brows So, um,
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Speaker 1: I'd say it's transitioning more away from that. So yes,
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Speaker 1: it's it's changing going forward. Then the sex week or so,
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Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to
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Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Wisconsin?
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be anywhere from a nine
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Speaker 1: to ten. I think the end of October is usually
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Speaker 1: when that first deal comes into heat and then every
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Speaker 1: buck in the area is honored. So I didn't see
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Speaker 1: there was only that one hot dough that I know
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Speaker 1: from that guy in camp that ended up feeling that buck.
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Speaker 1: But there's definitely bucks moving around looking for dolls. I
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Speaker 1: think in the next couple of days here, Um, those
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Speaker 1: first early dolls are gonna start popping in. The actions
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Speaker 1: really gonna heat up. Alright, great Intel, Hayden, thanks for
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Speaker 1: on me. Thanks Spencer alright and joining us on the line.
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Speaker 1: Next is Hunter Forbes from Southern White Tail Outfitters in Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: Now Hunter in Kentucky. What would you say the bucket
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Speaker 1: activities man lately? On a scale of one to ten, Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give it around with six right now.
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Speaker 1: The way the weather has been here lately, it's just
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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of nocturnal movement from them. Um,
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Speaker 1: daylife activity has been pretty slow. But as soon as
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Speaker 1: he's a little bit of cold frosts come through, was
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Speaker 1: gonna be kicking off and be getting a little bit
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Speaker 1: better for us. Up to this point, I might give
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Speaker 1: it about a six. And so do you see any
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Speaker 1: of that promising whether on the way that might turn
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Speaker 1: things around? Right now as I'm doing this at seventy
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Speaker 1: seven degrees, honest, it's Warman's blowing hard out of the south.
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Speaker 1: Looks like a couple of days of rain, and then
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Speaker 1: towards the end of this week, we should have a
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Speaker 1: couple of days that we're really looking forward to being
17:48
Speaker 1: an industry on. Well, looks like you guys have had
17:51
Speaker 1: some success in Southern white tail outfitters. What have those
17:53
Speaker 1: set up spend like lately? Everything's been so unpredictable for us.
17:58
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the have been seen just quiet,
18:00
Speaker 1: you know our range. Um, the set up set that
18:02
Speaker 1: we've been killing them all lately is really been taking
18:05
Speaker 1: advantage of using some like different cell cams and we've
18:09
Speaker 1: been able to focus on where you see buck movement
18:11
Speaker 1: between five and six in the morning, some somewhere right
18:14
Speaker 1: there where they're gonna bed near it, and it hadn't
18:16
Speaker 1: been consistent, but um, the deal that we've been able
18:19
Speaker 1: to take have been pretty much where they stand up
18:20
Speaker 1: in the afternoons and then to make their way a
18:22
Speaker 1: little bit of food before they start looking for some
18:24
Speaker 1: does if we have been having the most of our
18:27
Speaker 1: success so you've been right on top of their bedding
18:29
Speaker 1: then or closer to the food source that they've been
18:32
Speaker 1: hitting in between if we can. You know, every farm
18:35
Speaker 1: and set ups can be a little different with how
18:37
Speaker 1: access is and how you can get in there on
18:39
Speaker 1: them um, but the closer the better, and it's just
18:42
Speaker 1: it has been changing so much, they're really unpredictable. Um.
18:46
Speaker 1: But with that little bit information because a lot of
18:47
Speaker 1: times that if we don't have any kind of mobile
18:49
Speaker 1: unit on the camera, we're checking in. We're seeing where
18:52
Speaker 1: we should have been, you know, three and four days ago,
18:54
Speaker 1: and it's not that most recent information. The biggest thing
18:57
Speaker 1: is they've definitely out of their patterns and they're slow
19:00
Speaker 1: really getting there to start looking for those. You know,
19:02
Speaker 1: the younger bucks are starting bump them around a little bit,
19:05
Speaker 1: but the mature bucks have been I'm gonna say, of
19:08
Speaker 1: a movement spent at night and if you catch them
19:10
Speaker 1: in that timber sent it's gonna be on one of
19:11
Speaker 1: those other day after the front. As we've seen most
19:14
Speaker 1: of our deer, the deer that you guys have been killing.
19:16
Speaker 1: Are those bucks that you've been familiar with or are
19:18
Speaker 1: you starting to see a lot of mature white tail
19:20
Speaker 1: start to move in there that maybe you haven't seen
19:22
Speaker 1: since summer or have never seen it at all. It's
19:25
Speaker 1: been deer that we're familiar with, you know, and it's
19:28
Speaker 1: until last night. I'm gonna say last night was the
19:30
Speaker 1: breakthrough night going through pictures and everything of of seeing
19:33
Speaker 1: new mature bucks. Um, I've noticed the past three or
19:36
Speaker 1: four days we've been picking up some no younger through
19:39
Speaker 1: and a half yold year that we're unfamiliar with. The
19:41
Speaker 1: last night was the first night and I've been probably
19:43
Speaker 1: on six or seven cameras we had new mature bucks
19:46
Speaker 1: show up. Of course I said it was at night.
19:49
Speaker 1: By that's the step in the right direction that we're
19:50
Speaker 1: looking for. Have you or any of the hunters and
19:53
Speaker 1: camp been doing any calling yet, Yes, they have been
19:57
Speaker 1: and had some little bucks respond to it. Um. We
19:59
Speaker 1: had a theory that was missed with the muzzle letter
20:01
Speaker 1: that was actually grunted in he saw him, you know,
20:03
Speaker 1: well across the field. Um grunted a few times than
20:07
Speaker 1: dear did come in to where he had a shot opportunity.
20:09
Speaker 1: So it is working, you know, time and place. As
20:12
Speaker 1: we get into the best part of the season where uh,
20:14
Speaker 1: you know, the rutting activity peaks. What were your setups
20:17
Speaker 1: look like then? Will they be different than what you've
20:19
Speaker 1: been doing lately or will they be a lot of
20:21
Speaker 1: the same stuff between feet and bed Um, it will
20:25
Speaker 1: be a little bit differently. I'll say, we have been
20:27
Speaker 1: taking advantage of scrape lines right after these rains and
20:30
Speaker 1: around the front. Um, that's that same area. Get them
20:33
Speaker 1: coming out of the bed and going to the scrape,
20:35
Speaker 1: going to food, that whole transition area. UM, we're trying
20:39
Speaker 1: to keep those as happy as possible on us, UM,
20:42
Speaker 1: get them super comfortable. And I'd say as we go
20:44
Speaker 1: closer to the rut, we're gonna be having those food
20:46
Speaker 1: sources where we have the most those Are those scrape
20:49
Speaker 1: lines going to be relevant for you guys a little
20:51
Speaker 1: while yet or is that something you start to not
20:53
Speaker 1: pay attention to as we hit November. Hey, we're with
20:56
Speaker 1: the mature bucks. I still haven't seen a lot of
20:59
Speaker 1: mature bucks um using them in the day. So I
21:02
Speaker 1: think we have, you know, the better scrape hunting still
21:05
Speaker 1: in front of us. And it's very likely this this
21:07
Speaker 1: weekend when that's gonna get right for us. UM. But
21:10
Speaker 1: I'd say within the next week we're still gonna be
21:12
Speaker 1: on that as best we can. And then and then
21:16
Speaker 1: from there we're gonna be going, you know, more of
21:18
Speaker 1: the food sources, especially in the evenings going forward. Then
21:22
Speaker 1: the sixt week or so, what do you think that
21:23
Speaker 1: bucket activity is going to be on a scale of
21:25
Speaker 1: one to ten in Kentucky. I'm gonna give us an
21:28
Speaker 1: eight for the weekend. I think that's gonna be the
21:30
Speaker 1: first one that we're really going to see some mature
21:32
Speaker 1: bucks on their feet and doing what they're supposed to
21:34
Speaker 1: be doing. All right, hunted, Well, good luck to you
21:36
Speaker 1: and the guys in camp. Thanks for joining me. Thank
21:38
Speaker 1: you Spencer alright and joining us on the line. Next
21:41
Speaker 1: is Trent Siegel and Kansas from Heartland Bowl Hunter. Trent
21:45
Speaker 1: in Kansas, what would you say the bucket activity has
21:47
Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten, I'd
21:50
Speaker 1: say it's been really good, probably like UM an eight
21:53
Speaker 1: or nine. As far as daylight and what are you
21:57
Speaker 1: basing that off of your trail cameras or some sightings
22:00
Speaker 1: that you've had while hunting lately, Both trail cameras have
22:05
Speaker 1: have definitely had a decent amount of daylight activity and
22:09
Speaker 1: then hunting and seen some good bucks. And then another
22:13
Speaker 1: indicator that we all kind of see nowadays is um
22:17
Speaker 1: just a number of bucks that are dropping um around
22:21
Speaker 1: our hometowns on on social media. So a lot of
22:25
Speaker 1: the great planes lately has been dealing with excess precipitation
22:30
Speaker 1: that's kind of delayed harvest. Are you saying that in Kansas?
22:32
Speaker 1: And what are maybe some of the repercussions from that
22:35
Speaker 1: with that late harvest? So the biggest thing that I've
22:40
Speaker 1: noticed is, Yeah, most all of our crops are still in.
22:42
Speaker 1: We got it like record rainfalls earlier this month and
22:48
Speaker 1: fields are still muddy, crops are still standing. And and
22:52
Speaker 1: just what I've noticed is, UM, it's been a delay
22:56
Speaker 1: in getting bucks on camera on properties that UM show
23:02
Speaker 1: have shown up by now, I guess in years past
23:05
Speaker 1: UM and ones that I know made it through season
23:07
Speaker 1: last year I haven't had on camera yet UM. And
23:11
Speaker 1: I I think it's just because the crops aren't out.
23:14
Speaker 1: Is So what phase of it rout would you say
23:16
Speaker 1: we're in right now? Pre rod seeking and chasing? What
23:19
Speaker 1: do you think is going on in Kansas? I honestly
23:22
Speaker 1: think UM definitely seeking chasing, and I think there's those
23:26
Speaker 1: that are getting read right now. UM. I've noticed last
23:31
Speaker 1: week there is a lot of good daylight activity and
23:35
Speaker 1: mature bucks UM. And then now it seems like it's
23:38
Speaker 1: it's very sporadic and I'm seeing a lot of fonds
23:41
Speaker 1: on cameras and then out hunting too that are by themselves.
23:45
Speaker 1: Um So, I mean, I think their moms are are
23:48
Speaker 1: locked up with some bucks and it's going to be
23:51
Speaker 1: that stage where we're just trying to catch those big
23:54
Speaker 1: mature books in between those. Now with it looking like
23:58
Speaker 1: the ruddy is maybe going a little bit sooner, what
24:00
Speaker 1: would you attribute that too? You know, I deer hunting
24:05
Speaker 1: is a funny I don't know, just a funny game
24:08
Speaker 1: we play. I never used to believe the moon had
24:11
Speaker 1: anything to do with it, but um, this year was
24:16
Speaker 1: one of the earliest harvest moons or second full moon
24:19
Speaker 1: after the um the fall equinox, and I think, I
24:23
Speaker 1: mean that's the only thing that I can attribute differently
24:26
Speaker 1: this year. And then obviously the rainfall and stuff that. Um,
24:30
Speaker 1: I do think the moon maybe has something to do
24:32
Speaker 1: with it this year that it's kind of it's definitely
24:35
Speaker 1: an early rut. Um, they're a big deer dropping like crazy. Um,
24:40
Speaker 1: just in the last week and a half. What strategies
24:43
Speaker 1: are you using right now with calling when you do
24:45
Speaker 1: some blind rattling and said had success for you in
24:48
Speaker 1: the past in late October? Yeah, absolutely, Um, it's it's
24:54
Speaker 1: definitely the time to be doing some grunting and rattling. Um,
24:59
Speaker 1: I'm trying, and it about every sit Um I did
25:02
Speaker 1: see two bucks, um weren't actually the best buck fight
25:07
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in person. Um a week ago this
25:11
Speaker 1: past Sunday, So just like eight nine days ago. Um,
25:15
Speaker 1: it was just two nice like two year old just
25:18
Speaker 1: I mean fighting until they were trying to kill each
25:21
Speaker 1: other basically. I mean it was an awesome light. So
25:23
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely time to be hitting their horns together
25:27
Speaker 1: and and doing some callings with some more extreme running
25:31
Speaker 1: activ that you've seen. Do you think, uh, signmaking is
25:34
Speaker 1: no longer relevant? Are you still seeing a lot of
25:36
Speaker 1: fresh sign in the woods? I think it's still relevant.
25:40
Speaker 1: And I'm still getting a lot of um nice box
25:43
Speaker 1: on scrapes. Um still hit the mock scrapes. You know,
25:48
Speaker 1: I've never tried until this year that putting the scrape
25:51
Speaker 1: trees out in front of some stands and some food
25:53
Speaker 1: plots and hunted over one of those the other night
25:55
Speaker 1: and and had a lot of good luck, and pretty
25:58
Speaker 1: much every dyear coming in the plot came right to
26:00
Speaker 1: that scrape tree. Even the doughes, we're going over to it.
26:03
Speaker 1: And and kind of sent checking in and stuff. So, um,
26:07
Speaker 1: there's that they're definitely doing that. It's one of their
26:10
Speaker 1: main ways of communication. I feel like, um, in a
26:15
Speaker 1: great way to get some most recent information. As some
26:18
Speaker 1: of the guys like to say, get their cameras on
26:20
Speaker 1: there going forward. Then this s next week or so
26:22
Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket ATV is going to
26:24
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Kansas,
26:28
Speaker 1: I gotta say it's it's only gonna get you know,
26:31
Speaker 1: stay just as good or get better. M It's it's
26:34
Speaker 1: supposed to get colder. Um, the moon is going to
26:38
Speaker 1: be a little less full, which I always think it's
26:41
Speaker 1: easier to hunt. And you know with the the month
26:46
Speaker 1: turns or the calendar turns to November, so it's it's
26:48
Speaker 1: gonna be that magical time. So um, that time we
26:52
Speaker 1: all dream of all year long. So it's it's gonna
26:55
Speaker 1: be rocking channel hit history is any indicator you're gonna
26:59
Speaker 1: have a big sucked down with your bow here pretty soon,
27:01
Speaker 1: So good luck and next for joining me, thanks a lot, man,
27:05
Speaker 1: same to you to have a good dress your fall
27:08
Speaker 1: alright and joining us on the line. Next is Brian Grossman,
27:11
Speaker 1: from Georgia, Field in Georgia, now Brian and Georgia. What
27:14
Speaker 1: would you say the bucket activity has been lately on
27:16
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I would say, on
27:20
Speaker 1: on a scale one to ten, I would I'd say
27:22
Speaker 1: a six. Right now, Um, we're really starting to see
27:26
Speaker 1: a lot of new scrapes pop up. Um, starting to
27:32
Speaker 1: get some reports of you know, seeing some some young
27:35
Speaker 1: deer chasing, uh that kind of activity. More dear, I
27:39
Speaker 1: put out a mock scrape here behind my house a
27:44
Speaker 1: few days ago, and uh seeing a lot of different
27:47
Speaker 1: bucks showing up checking that out. And actually, I guess
27:50
Speaker 1: the last night I caught a ten second video clip
27:54
Speaker 1: of a little buck chasing a dough. He chased your
27:57
Speaker 1: past the camera twice in a ten second time frame,
28:00
Speaker 1: so he was he was definitely uh going after But um,
28:05
Speaker 1: you know, no no reports yet of really any mature
28:09
Speaker 1: bucks chasing or you know, any serious red sign yet.
28:13
Speaker 1: Would you say a six out of ten is normal
28:16
Speaker 1: for late October in Georgia? Yeah, yeah, I mean I
28:20
Speaker 1: think some things seem to be progressing about like you
28:23
Speaker 1: would expect this time of year. He says, this is
28:26
Speaker 1: about the time you kind of see a peak and
28:30
Speaker 1: scrape activity and uh you know, rubs and and start
28:35
Speaker 1: seeing those younger bucks, you know, showing the first interest
28:39
Speaker 1: of kind of chasing after some doves. What are some
28:42
Speaker 1: of the food sources to focus on right now in Georgia? Uh,
28:47
Speaker 1: still heavily on white okay corns this time of year,
28:51
Speaker 1: and of course you know some red okay corns too.
28:55
Speaker 1: Of course we're you know in uh agricultural areas are
28:59
Speaker 1: still be you know, hanging out in agricultural fields, green fields,
29:03
Speaker 1: and that's that's pretty much acorns right now. As we
29:09
Speaker 1: get into the best hunting of the season these next
29:11
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, as bucks start to run more, is
29:14
Speaker 1: that the same food source that you'll focus on all
29:16
Speaker 1: the way through then or will that change as far
29:18
Speaker 1: as food somewhurce especially and that I'm not you know,
29:22
Speaker 1: really in an agricultural area here of Georgia. UM, so yeah,
29:26
Speaker 1: it'll it'll still you know, rely heavily on on white oaks. Um.
29:32
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm trying to uh take a note
29:37
Speaker 1: from the these uh the public layer that just the
29:41
Speaker 1: uh dining public guys, and trying a little more getting
29:45
Speaker 1: in closer to betting areas and and uh seeing a
29:49
Speaker 1: suttle work a little better than the house in the past.
29:52
Speaker 1: Have you been seeing any new bucks show up on
29:54
Speaker 1: trail camera? It's kind of that time of the season
29:57
Speaker 1: where you might start to see some deer that you
29:59
Speaker 1: have seen some the summer, or maybe never seen it
30:01
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, I am, um, I'm running a couple
30:06
Speaker 1: of trail cameras on a small nineteen akers here behind
30:09
Speaker 1: my house and just seeing really for the size of
30:13
Speaker 1: the property to seeing an incredible number of bucks starting
30:16
Speaker 1: to show up here in the last two weeks. Um,
30:19
Speaker 1: nothing only only one, you know, really noteworthy, but just
30:22
Speaker 1: a lot of different bucks, young bucks. Going forward, then
30:27
Speaker 1: in the six week or so, what do you think
30:28
Speaker 1: that buck activity will be on a scale of one
30:30
Speaker 1: to ten in Georgia? Hopefully here in the next week.
30:34
Speaker 1: I mean that it should only get better, so maybe
30:38
Speaker 1: you know an eight. Um. Right now, we've we've hit
30:43
Speaker 1: a little warm snap. It's been those mid seventies today,
30:47
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be eighty tomorrow. So you know that
30:51
Speaker 1: that does seem just from my what I've seen, Uh,
30:55
Speaker 1: it seems to have suppressed some of the daytime you know,
30:58
Speaker 1: buck moving or daytime dear move um certainly isn't gonna
31:02
Speaker 1: you know, affect the timing of the rut, but it
31:05
Speaker 1: can't affect daytime activity. Um, and it seems to have
31:09
Speaker 1: done that, but it is supposed to. We got a
31:13
Speaker 1: co front coming on Thursday. It's gonna dump a bunch
31:15
Speaker 1: of rain and then our temperatures are gonna be back
31:18
Speaker 1: down to you know, more in line with what they
31:20
Speaker 1: should be this time of year. So hopefully, you know,
31:23
Speaker 1: with with that cooler weather and just the normal timing
31:28
Speaker 1: of the rut here where I am at, thanks should
31:31
Speaker 1: start getting good. All right, Brian will thanks for joining me,
31:34
Speaker 1: and good luck this season. Sorry, thank you, Spencer, And
31:39
Speaker 1: that concludes this week's episode of Wired Haunts Radio. Thanks
31:43
Speaker 1: to Hayden Hunter, Trent and Brian for joining me, and
31:46
Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. As always, make sure you're
31:49
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31:53
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31:57
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32:01
Speaker 1: I talk to you, guys, it will be sweet November,
32:03
Speaker 1: and I am stoked for what's to come on radio
32:06
Speaker 1: and in the woods, stay Weird to Hunt