Latest / GET ER DONE Podcast / EP12 - Christian Take on Talarico & Wolves in Business
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- 0:01SPEAKER_03: All right, all right.
- 0:03SPEAKER_03: Welcome to another podcast on the Get Or Done podcast.
- 0:06SPEAKER_03: Get her done.
- 0:07SPEAKER_03: I figured we should say our names since it's kind of audio only.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 0:13SPEAKER_03: So I'm the host, Briston Reigns.
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: My name's Aaron Dunn.
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: Co-host.
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: Co-host, guest, special guest.
- 0:22SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 0:22SPEAKER_03: Um, say I'm Briston.
- 0:25SPEAKER_03: It's like Tristan with a B.
- 0:27SPEAKER_03: And low-key, when Alex or Mosey first said my name, he said Bristol.
- 0:31SPEAKER_03: And I said, No, Bristol.
- 0:32SPEAKER_03: And he said, Oh, okay.
- 0:35SPEAKER_03: Australia.
- 0:36SPEAKER_03: All right, there's a city named Bristol in UK or something.
- 0:39SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 0:40SPEAKER_03: Anyways.
- 0:41SPEAKER_03: But yeah, that's that's who that's who you're listening to.
- 0:46SPEAKER_03: This podcast, we talk about faith, business, and fitness.
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 0:52SPEAKER_03: Three pretty core areas in people's lives.
- 0:55SPEAKER_03: I would throw family in there too, as like a definitely a bigger, a big priority.
- 0:58SPEAKER_03: But yeah, uh, for the sake of this podcast, it's just kind of those three areas for now.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: You know what I was uh that made me just think?
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: What business, fitness, faith, or if you swap them, that's BFF.
- 1:09SPEAKER_03: Oh.
- 1:11SPEAKER_03: BFF podcast.
- 1:13SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:14SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, I guess one of the big things I kind of wanted to hop into was um well, first off, let me just mention this.
- 1:27SPEAKER_03: Dude, all the this is like left field, but all of the freaking political uh ads.
- 1:34SPEAKER_03: Dude, terrible.
- 1:37SPEAKER_03: I think I've heard Taler Rico's name like a thousand times in the past seven days.
- 1:42SPEAKER_03: If you live in Texas, you know what I'm talking about.
- 1:44SPEAKER_03: So we live in Texas.
- 1:46SPEAKER_03: All right, Senate race is like out the freaking wazoo right now.
- 1:50SPEAKER_03: You got I don't, it's bad I don't even know the Republican's name because he's hardly ever mentioned, but I just know Taler Rico is Taller Rico.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Paxton's the other guy.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: Paxton.
- 2:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Paxton, that's right.
- 2:03SPEAKER_03: Um, be honest, I don't like either one of them.
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: Me either.
- 2:06SPEAKER_03: Like straight up.
- 2:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 2:08SPEAKER_03: And then the other day, this was like worldwide news.
- 2:11SPEAKER_03: We got the freaking uh we got the little transgender pamphlets in the mail.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 2:16SPEAKER_03: Like for students.
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: Wild.
- 2:18SPEAKER_03: I was like, bro.
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: But that's like fake.
- 2:21SPEAKER_03: I threw it away.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, most people did.
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: Well, I threw everything away.
- 2:24SPEAKER_03: Like I threw away all the Paxton, Tal Rico, and that stuff.
- 2:26SPEAKER_03: Like I threw it all away.
- 2:27SPEAKER_00: Well, of course, that's all it's made for.
- 2:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 2:29SPEAKER_03: It's trash.
- 2:30SPEAKER_03: It's spam.
- 2:31SPEAKER_03: Loki, I mean, the first thing I thought when I saw the um transgender pamphlet, like the first thing that hit my head was like, This is demonic.
- 2:40SPEAKER_03: Like, this is not of God.
- 2:41SPEAKER_03: I was like, This is not going in my house.
- 2:43SPEAKER_03: I'm putting this in the trash.
- 2:45SPEAKER_03: So I did.
- 2:46SPEAKER_03: Um, but uh, yeah, I mean, this stuff's I mean, that and then all the political uh spam, it's just out of control, dude.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got a text yesterday.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: You might have saw the comment on your post because you the yeah, the first day of early voting, it was uh uh a Talerico text that said, please, please, please, please, please, pretty, pretty, please send just a dollar because like the election you know, first day of uh voting started today, and I'm like, You don't need a dollar from me.
- 3:20SPEAKER_03: Oh, voting's today.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: Uh it's early voting started Monday, so that's why I didn't even know so it ramped up, and so that's why the transgender thing like appeared in mailboxes, but nobody it's still unknown exactly where it came from because the organization that the pamphlet is supposedly from, the organization released a statement and said we didn't put that out, like we we as an organization did not put that stuff out.
- 3:49SPEAKER_03: So somebody there's a way to track it, dude.
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: Who yeah, somebody's tracking it, some journalists is tracking it.
- 3:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah, who paid the carrier, mail carriers like there had to be a name attached to the bank transaction.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, people are trying to investigate that because it's it's either like you know, the Republican campaign paid for it to get that reaction from you to spur votes up.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: That's actually whoa, yeah, that's reverse psychology.
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's like the yeah, it's crazy deep propaganda.
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 4:20SPEAKER_03: That that's actually crazy to think about.
- 4:23SPEAKER_03: They wow, Senate election rolls around.
- 4:27SPEAKER_03: Dude, I bet I bet the Republican Party sent those out.
- 4:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude, I think you're right.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that's my guess.
- 4:35SPEAKER_03: That's actually it's insane.
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: Kind of smart.
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: It we know, and it's like it, yeah.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: Campaign and political marketing is just it's it's so tiresome because it's so sensational.
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: It makes me not want to vote.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: Overblown, yeah, exactly.
- 4:52SPEAKER_03: Like I don't want to like like I get all that.
- 4:55SPEAKER_03: It's like a pushy salesman.
- 4:57SPEAKER_03: It's like you're so pushy, I don't even want to buy from you anymore, right?
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: 100%.
- 5:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: So not a political podcast, but it is noteworthy.
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: It's just what people are dealing with.
- 5:09SPEAKER_03: Topic of controversy, I guess, right now.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 5:12SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, man.
- 5:15SPEAKER_03: Super interesting uh thing.
- 5:18SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah.
- 5:19SPEAKER_03: When does voting even end?
- 5:20SPEAKER_03: I don't even know.
- 5:21SPEAKER_03: I think it's two weeks.
- 5:22SPEAKER_03: Two weeks, okay.
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: So we this is just the beginning, it's only gonna ramp up.
- 5:26SPEAKER_00: This is ridiculous, anyways.
- 5:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, that was a uh big topic in the world.
- 5:32SPEAKER_03: Just wanted to uh put our two cents on it.
- 5:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it's ridiculous.
- 5:36SPEAKER_03: Tired of it.
- 5:38SPEAKER_03: I think everybody's kind of feeling the same way where everyone's like, man, I don't like either one of these freaking government parties.
- 5:44SPEAKER_03: And uh hey, I had this idea though, is you know how like for football games, um like NFL football games, like everybody has their team or like college football.
- 5:59SPEAKER_03: What if uh the promotion and pouring out behind those teams was to get humans to psychologically get used to choosing a team and so it was pushed by the government, and then because the government was pushing them to pushing out this uh recreation sport, and then people then choosing a team and then causing them to politically choose a team.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like all connected, yeah.
- 6:34SPEAKER_03: I I was thinking about that.
- 6:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean or it's just natural human instinct to choose choose a team, but yeah, yeah.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: I think I think it's partly that, it's mostly that.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: It's in our natural, like we want to be a part of a tribe, identify with the community, you know, align and and root for or against and stuff like that.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: I think that's just kind of psychology, yeah, just natural, but because the same thing happens with any kind of brands, and you know, people we want to be a part of a community of belonging, of people with the same values and all that kind of stuff.
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: I it's it's it's tough.
- 7:12SPEAKER_00: Political, the political sphere is just really, really hard because there's you know, with law and all this kind of stuff, it's just it's full of nuance, and nuance also has no place in the political discussion because that's not what captures attention.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: Like, like a lot of the problems that that our elected officials are elected to solve are difficult problems, and you know, that's the problem with like like big bills that sweep, like it's like, okay, well, I want to vote for this, but it's part of this bill that has a hundred other things in it, and so it's like, well, you know what I mean?
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: And so, like, but but that's where I was a also for the politically unengaged, the only like the thing that actually captures your attention is a crazy pamphlet in the mail, or or whatever, you know what I mean?
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: Or or something on the TV that says something absolutely left field, and so if you're not totally like in and keeping up because everybody has jobs and kids and other things to pay attention to, like the only thing that's gonna capture your attention is something crazy, yeah, it's terrible.
- 8:20SPEAKER_03: Well, as like as a Christian, it is good to vote for for the two of the less evils that mostly aligns with the Bible.
- 8:29SPEAKER_03: And there's a pastor on Instagram, he had said he is basically saying, like, here's why you should vote for Ken Paxton.
- 8:36SPEAKER_03: And he said, Ken Paxton is morally and ethically a fallen, sinful person, but he protects Christianity and Christians in America.
- 8:48SPEAKER_03: He said there's a difference between a politician who goes directly against Christians in the Bible and a politician who doesn't necessarily live at the best, but is willing to protect it.
- 8:58SPEAKER_03: And that was his case for voting for Ken Faxton and supporting to vote for that uh candidate.
- 9:04SPEAKER_03: And I was like, dude, like as a Christian, I was like, that makes sense.
- 9:08SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like you're kind of choosing two of the less evils, right?
- 9:12SPEAKER_03: And like for me, when I vote, it's like I'm voting for the candidate that most supports biblical values, and that gets so twisted, yeah, because people will be like, oh, biblical values are love your neighbor, right?
- 9:26SPEAKER_03: Uh all this stuff.
- 9:30SPEAKER_03: But it's like I'm not saying that um either side doesn't support biblical values, both political sides have some political or biblical values they support, sure, but one has more biblical values they support than the other.
- 9:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think what's hard, it's we're talking about the nuance there, is that is that like and what what is difficult to parse because when you have the Democrats are are are smart in in running Talarico because of his religious background and he speaks the Christianese essentially, and so it's very uh it's very like pleasing to the ear.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: And and then you're like, but you also have to think about voting and principle and like what you act like what are these people actually going to be executing and writing and like uh signing their name on?
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and does that align with how you believe the government should make decisions?
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: And that's sometimes a different thing, and so like the things that I'm thinking about haven't voted.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm I'm like you, I'm like, I don't even want to be a part of this because both are terrible.
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: Republicans ran a terrible candidate who's been in the news for bad things most of his political career, from what I've seen from a you know distant view, right?
- 10:57SPEAKER_00: And so it's like makes it really tough.
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: And so then you're like, well, how the way that I'm trying to make my decision is do I believe that Talerico is going to further the interests of Texans and how I believe Texan government should be ran.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: And I don't believe that because I know that he's a Democratic candidate, and most of the time Democratic candidates are gonna vote away from other things that I believe should how how things I believe should be should be ran.
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: And so that doesn't necessarily mean that it like what what's what I think is twisted and messed up is that it makes it this like weird religious conversation when it shouldn't necessarily be, it should be policy driven.
- 11:50SPEAKER_00: And I just, you know, you can you can just bet on the fact that like if something happens, some important issue comes up, it's going to go the route of he's gonna go the route of a democratic leaning uh policy position.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: And that's gonna make things more difficult for bills to get passed for uh Texas, you know, much less federally.
- 12:18SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, a split seat, like I I want to believe that there can be a happy medium between the other Republican senator that already sits there and a Democratic senator, and they can be like, Yeah, let's change this and change that, and we can we can agree, you know, we can align in the middle, but it seldom yeah, it's like radical, yeah, radical differences in opposition, and the way the way uh a lot of um Congress even speaks in-house is very disrespectful and not professional.
- 12:56SPEAKER_03: Like I've seen videos of cook like Congress or Senate hearings taking place, and people say the most ridiculous stuff or interrupt or yell, or yeah, I'm like, dude.
- 13:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, yeah, even on the Republican side.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like it's like I don't, I don't, I don't drive with any of those, either of those.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: The approaches are always so so bad.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they can't politics is lame.
- 13:21SPEAKER_03: Like, don't get me wrong, there's good and bad with every candidate, but the Republicans, come on, man, Ken Paxton.
- 13:28SPEAKER_03: That's that's the best that's the best thing you could throw up.
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: That's the best we can do, no way.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: And so then, so let me ask you this.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: This is a funny, uh, not a funny question, but uh, but a real question.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: Because to me, I'm like, you know, in in the absence of leadership, right?
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: If if you look around and you're going, there's no good leaders here.
- 13:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, to me, that's a that's that that calls me up to go, well, somebody's gotta do it.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I gotta do it.
- 13:53SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah.
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: And then it that's like the scariest thing because then you're like, oh gosh.
- 13:57SPEAKER_03: Like, I I I think you'd be a better candidate than Ken Paxton.
- 14:01SPEAKER_00: Thanks, but I no way, you know what I mean?
- 14:03SPEAKER_00: Because that's the thing.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: It's like then like that's that's the troubling thing to me is that like you gotta be a particular type of person to want to go into that echelon of governmental power, yeah, and because there's so much heat around it, because like and it it dissuades good leaders, I think, from even wanting to try.
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, myself included.
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: It's such a dirty game, and it's like I don't even want to get involved in that whole thing, you know what I mean?
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: And it's like not necessarily that because I know what I believe and I know who I am, but you never, you know, you can't like is somebody gonna send some crazy pamphlet in the mail about me that's like salacious and lying, probably, right?
- 14:49SPEAKER_00: You know, especially if it's on a governmental I've seen it, uh, uh, uh, uh upper, you know, uh governor or senator or there's a crazy seat, big seat.
- 14:57SPEAKER_03: When I was in college, there's a guy who was uh running for Senate and um for Arkansas, and he paid me to like go door to door and hand out flyers and talk to people for him.
- 15:10SPEAKER_03: And um, he was a great guy locally, he did a lot of great things, he um like gave a lot of money to a lot of ministries, like great guy, like truly a good guy.
- 15:21SPEAKER_03: And uh like a the week before the election his opponent um it wasn't even a he was running against another candidate for the same party.
- 15:36SPEAKER_03: And so his opponent um or who was trying to win re-election didn't want him taking his spot.
- 15:44SPEAKER_03: So his opponent sent out mails mail to everyone in the local town that that he lived in and was basically trashing him.
- 15:52SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and uh he would kind of say something like um like this guy was an entrepreneur, so he'd like buying flip houses, and he put out a flyer saying like this guy is committing fraud and all this stuff, yeah.
- 16:10SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a pretty dirty game.
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: It's a dirty game, and it's you know, like my dad is actually the mayor of the town that I grew up in.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean he earned that trust over time because he was an active member of the community, served on city council for a long time, and so like on a micro level, like that's really how it should be.
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: And you would hope that like at a macro level on these bigger levels, that's how it could be, because it's like we put our trust in our representatives to represent our our interests because we know that they will listen to us and have those things in consideration and make the decision that they have to make, can't make everybody happy, but at the same time, at the at the higher up you go, the more scrutiny, the more special interests, the more people that are just not great influences that that make those decisions that much harder and high pressure.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's just lame.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: And that's just uh yeah.
- 17:17SPEAKER_03: Well, as a man of faith, it it is, I think it's a little irresponsible to just be like, hey, I'm not gonna vote, because votes do have real-world impacts.
- 17:29SPEAKER_03: Um like literally, I know this is unfortunately political, even though I feel like it shouldn't be, but like abortion.
- 17:40SPEAKER_03: Like it's crazy to think that your vote could prevent a hundred thousand kids of your not being born, right?
- 17:49SPEAKER_03: Whereas they would be born otherwise.
- 17:51SPEAKER_03: Um, like it's crazy to think like my vote, me saying, hey, I'm gonna go vote for this person could keep a hundred thousand lives being born.
- 18:03SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 18:05SPEAKER_03: Flip side of that, like that's a biblical worldview.
- 18:10SPEAKER_03: Straight up.
- 18:11SPEAKER_03: Flip side of that though, like on the other side, it's like, oh, well, that's a hundred thousand people who can choose what they want to do with their body.
- 18:21SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 18:21SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's yeah, it's it's such a new perspectives, yeah.
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: And Morrison's like a really big, huge, very difficult topic.
- 18:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, just we're we're talking about it.
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: So I was actually listening to Talo Rico, it was like a live town hall thing, yeah.
- 18:37SPEAKER_00: Which I respect Talo Rico for entering the arena and answering questions, you know what I mean?
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: He gains my respect for that.
- 18:43SPEAKER_00: Paxton, nowhere to be found, didn't even debate the guy.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: Come on, dude.
- 18:47SPEAKER_00: It's lame.
- 18:47SPEAKER_00: It's just like, what are you doing?
- 18:49SPEAKER_00: And so, like, it's anyway, uh, it was interesting because it was a prof a college professor got four minutes to like ask their question and have the person respond.
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: Of course, it took four minutes for the question to be asked and then his response.
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: And so it was only like one question, but it was about abortion.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: And she was a college professor, like professor of religion, Catholic, and like abortions are a big sticking issue.
- 19:15SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: And Talerico was like, you know, abortion uh is not really directly like mentioned in the Bible, and like he falls on the side of you know, pro-choice and cites like things like uh, you know, people getting care uh for you know nuanced cases in in uh you know, from uh uh like miscarriage or like you know, medical issues or incest or you know, that kind of bad things.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: And it's like you have compassion for those things, but then she checked them, which I thought was really interesting and bold of her.
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: She was like, Well, you know, the Ten Commandments do say thou shalt not kill, and so that's the Catholic perspective on it, and so like I I appreciate her for mentioning that because you know he's kind of like going around it.
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: I I've met, but it's difficult, it's so tough.
- 20:11SPEAKER_03: I've met Christians like Talerico, they're called uh, I think he falls into the universal Christian uh category, but universal Christians, you're universalist believe in a lot of insane ideas that are not in the Bible.
- 20:27SPEAKER_03: But the interesting thing about them though, too, is um they believe like all paths, like all religions lead to God, and like Christian Christianity is just like one way, yeah, but they also like ignore certain text because they don't believe in biblical authority and they believe some scripture that's in this in the Bible shouldn't have been put in there, yeah.
- 20:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which is crazy.
- 20:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, his his his religious point of view is definitely different than a lot of like your typical evangelical Baptist Methodist.
- 21:01SPEAKER_00: I think he's technically a Presbyterian, but like doing my own research and just learning about it's like more universal, in my opinion.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 21:09SPEAKER_00: It's just um, you know, people there's a there's a wide spectrum of believers out there, and thankfully, you know, God's the ultimate judge and not us, you know.
- 21:20SPEAKER_00: And so I try to lend grace and respect where it's earned, and you know, whatever the political decision that I have to make is gonna be my own, and um I'm going to live with that and you know, hope the best for Texas and everybody else, you know.
- 21:39SPEAKER_00: It's like you can only do so much.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: I've you know, I mean I'd love I'd love to like try and explain my position, and I'm kind of explaining my position on this, but it's like, you know, I as I see the craziness happen on my Facebook feed and my friends and stuff like that, you know, like I want to lend my voice because again.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: It's like you feel like a response sense of responsibility to do it, but it's also, I just know that you get uh, you know, you anticipate a hundred comments or whatever of just stuff I don't want to deal with at the same time.
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I just don't even want to kick the kick the kick the nest.
- 22:20SPEAKER_03: What Texas should have done, Republicans should have done, is they should have threw up Matthew McConaughey.
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: Please run.
- 22:28SPEAKER_00: I threw him up.
- 22:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what they should have done.
- 22:31SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 22:31SPEAKER_03: All right, exactly.
- 22:32SPEAKER_03: Well, time to get to the meat of this podcast.
- 22:34SPEAKER_03: You're over here, like, what?
- 22:35SPEAKER_03: That's a meat.
- 22:35SPEAKER_03: Like that wasn't that was the intro.
- 22:38SPEAKER_03: Um time to get into the meat of this podcast.
- 22:40SPEAKER_03: This is your show, bud.
- 22:41SPEAKER_03: Hey, I it is 10, so that does help.
- 22:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 22:45SPEAKER_03: Um, so all right.
- 22:50SPEAKER_03: That was just the just like the fun talk.
- 22:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, gotcha.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: Bancher.
- 22:55SPEAKER_03: This is the actual meat of the podcast today.
- 22:58SPEAKER_03: So today, today I wanted to talk about a few things, but one thing I want to talk about was um all the new cool big stuff in business.
- 23:07SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 23:08SPEAKER_03: Okay, so I want to talk about our idea that we just came up with with Bloom, but I'm like, we're starting to catch like big winning ideas, and I like it.
- 23:15SPEAKER_03: Um, so essentially, I so I I watched this guy, uh Greg uh Levine.
- 23:24SPEAKER_03: So I don't even know his last name is shout out to Greg.
- 23:28SPEAKER_03: Greg, CEO, co-founder of Bloom.
- 23:33SPEAKER_03: Um Aaron Aaron recommended the podcast over to me.
- 23:36SPEAKER_03: And so I was in my office listening listening to it this morning, and uh, dude was talking about how he put a million dollars into like a little pop-up shop in New York City as like just like advertising, like no real ROI, like no real return on investment there.
- 23:51SPEAKER_03: And I was like, dude, I was like, this dude's putting a million dollars for something that he's probably not gonna get a million dollars back on.
- 23:58SPEAKER_03: I was like, we got freaking 15,000 people, 120 races, and I was like over there looking up like their um information on them to try to get them to like to where I could somehow get in a meeting with them to try to get them to sponsor our events.
- 24:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Greg LaVeccia, Greg Levincia, Levecchia, Le Vecchia, Levincia.
- 24:20SPEAKER_03: I don't know, but we'll get to know.
- 24:22SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we really will.
- 24:23SPEAKER_03: So Aaron, I told Aaron this, and Aaron was like, dude, I think it's your idea.
- 24:29SPEAKER_03: You were like, let's just drive to Bloom headquarters in Austin and stand outside with a sign.
- 24:34SPEAKER_03: I was like, dude, that's a great idea.
- 24:35SPEAKER_03: Dude with sign, yeah.
- 24:37SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna go on Wednesday next week.
- 24:41SPEAKER_03: It'll make a great podcast after.
- 24:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
- 24:43SPEAKER_03: Um, but I'm gonna get a giant piece of cardboard, huge, and I'm gonna uh paint giant letters, like not even like jumbo sharpie big, like paintbrush big, like this big.
- 24:56SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm gonna paint on there.
- 24:59SPEAKER_03: I think I'm gonna do something like 30,000 plus participants, 120 plus events, bloom, sponsor us, dash.
- 25:08SPEAKER_03: Um maybe outlast or yeah, yeah.
- 25:13SPEAKER_00: We gotta work out the yeah, yeah, something like that.
- 25:15SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I'm gonna stand outside.
- 25:17SPEAKER_03: I'm I wanna get I wanna get out there at like 5 or 6 a.m.
- 25:20SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna stand outside their headquarters.
- 25:23SPEAKER_03: Like I don't even know where they park, but I'm just gonna stand outside and figure it out and hold the sign, and hopefully somebody talks to me or has a meeting with me.
- 25:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 25:32SPEAKER_03: If does if it doesn't, it'll make a great Instagram post.
- 25:35SPEAKER_03: But um, like I I DMed Greg and Bloom and I filled out their partnership form on their website.
- 25:44SPEAKER_03: So like I'm doing everything I know to do.
- 25:46SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was like, let's go do it and try it.
- 25:50SPEAKER_03: I think I lucky think Greg would respect it, but I could also see team members being like, get this guy out of here.
- 25:57SPEAKER_03: Right, sure, sure.
- 25:58SPEAKER_03: So I don't know what's gonna happen.
- 26:00SPEAKER_03: Um obviously, like, I don't want them to like like this is like a one-and-done deal.
- 26:06SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm just gonna do it once, yeah, and show up and see what happens.
- 26:10SPEAKER_03: So obviously, they like I don't want to be annoying, I want to be respectful, yeah, when we do this, but I think it's a great idea.
- 26:19SPEAKER_03: I think marketing-wise, I think it's very creative, and I think it'll be well respected.
- 26:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think, yeah, or they could just be like go away and well, you know, you go back to our values of uh what is it, honor God, uh, honor authority.
- 26:31SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, uh follow protocol or honor authority, follow protocol.
- 26:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 26:37SPEAKER_00: And then like, you know, respect the rule of law.
- 26:40SPEAKER_00: And so right, you know, like we'll do that, right?
- 26:44SPEAKER_03: If they ask us to leave relief, yeah, exactly.
- 26:47SPEAKER_00: But it's it's it's all for the all for the story, and then it's on brand.
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's kind of an outlaw thing to do.
- 26:52SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 26:53SPEAKER_03: We I mean we do textile running company, exactly.
- 26:56SPEAKER_03: Um, that's uh I guess a little side topic there.
- 26:59SPEAKER_03: So we are about to formally separate separate the brands.
- 27:04SPEAKER_03: So right now, Texas Outlaw kind of puts on outlast, or that's at least the way it looks.
- 27:09SPEAKER_03: We're about to have it to our Outlaw Event Group puts on uh Outlast and then Textel are running events, and then we'll just keep adding brands under Outlaw Event Group.
- 27:19SPEAKER_03: And it's not like Outlaw Event Group putting them on, it's uh those brands put them on, but it's powered and supported, uh like brought to you by Outlaw Event Group.
- 27:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in a way.
- 27:32SPEAKER_03: Um, and I was driving to work this morning and I was thinking our sign outside our buildings is Text Out Running.
- 27:39SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I'm not gonna change that because although this will all be technically outlaw event group in here, I'm gonna keep it Texas outlaw running because we're in Texas and everybody in Texas that's a trail runner knows about Texas Outlaw.
- 27:55SPEAKER_02: Yeah, recommend.
- 27:56SPEAKER_03: So if they drive by, they'll they can it's it's local, yeah.
- 28:00SPEAKER_03: And I'm not gonna put outlaw event group on the sign out there because if I do that, it's like they'll go to outlaw eventgroup.com, which is the website we have, right?
- 28:11SPEAKER_03: And they can see oh, Text dollar running or outlast, and then go from there, sure, but it just makes more sense like just keep textile running out there because we don't have that many outlast events in Texas.
- 28:20SPEAKER_03: We have like three or four, and then we have like 30 troll and ultra marathons, right?
- 28:25SPEAKER_03: And like that brand's more recognizable.
- 28:27SPEAKER_03: That'd be like if um I guess that would be like if Coca-Cola had a headquarters with their sign on it, and then the parent company was PepsiCo, and they switched the sign to PepsiCo outside, even though their main product was Coca-Cola.
- 28:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, or uh it's like it's like we're not there yet.
- 28:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or like it there's a lot of brands that are rolled up against uh and I don't know the brand extremely well, but like Mondeleese is like a is like the parent company of a whole bunch of snack brands, okay, yeah, for example, yeah.
- 28:59SPEAKER_00: So like people don't know what Mondeleese is, but yeah, people do recognize like whatever Cheetos or something, you know.
- 29:05SPEAKER_03: So like we'll like in years to come, we probably will change the sign to say a hello think group, like years down the road.
- 29:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's not at the point to where like it just doesn't make marketing sense.
- 29:21SPEAKER_03: It makes more marketing sense to have a brand that people would know and identify with 100%.
- 29:25SPEAKER_03: Like there's a guy who we invited for the podcast a few weeks ago.
- 29:28SPEAKER_03: Before he walked in, he took a picture in front of our sign outside.
- 29:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 29:32SPEAKER_03: It because he has ran races through Texas already, not Outlast, right?
- 29:36SPEAKER_03: Not Outlaw Event Group, right?
- 29:38SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 29:38SPEAKER_03: So it's more of like a recognizable brand for locals, yeah.
- 29:41SPEAKER_03: So that's why I was like, we'll probably just keep the sign.
- 29:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 100%.
- 29:45SPEAKER_03: Um, and plus more people are more likely to sign up for a Texas Outlaw event locally versus outlast.
- 29:51SPEAKER_03: We have more like variations, like 5k, 100 mile, and we have more like events in Texas.
- 29:58SPEAKER_03: We got like six around here, yeah.
- 30:00SPEAKER_03: So I was like, we're just gonna keep it.
- 30:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was an interesting decision though to like think through that, right?
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, so yeah, but you're I I I admire how you're building it out because you know, we have these uh sub-brands underneath, like a a parent, essentially, yeah, and it makes sense to have segmentation because not everybody's gonna be able or have access to Texas Outlaw running events, right?
- 30:27SPEAKER_00: And so it needs to have some sort of identifier so that as it continues to spread and grow nationally, it's already there nationally as a brand, but you know, to map it outlast specifically to outlaw event group, you know, it makes it makes sense.
- 30:45SPEAKER_03: Makes sense, yeah.
- 30:47SPEAKER_03: So that'll be like a slow slow transition.
- 30:52SPEAKER_03: Right, I could see in like a few years it being like outlaw event group is parent company, and then sub brands, sex outlaw, outlast, all the other cool stuff we talk about.
- 31:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, I could see that being a thing, and then putting a sign out that says outlaw event group because we now have five brands bigger than like that are all big, right?
- 31:12SPEAKER_03: You know, right.
- 31:13SPEAKER_03: Um, the reason we tie Tex Outrunning to Outlast right now is because if people run an Outlast event, if they see uh Texas Outlaw created this brand and they click our profile page, it's immediate social proof because we have a lot of followers and likes and views.
- 31:30SPEAKER_03: And so that's why I do that because it's like, oh, like this is a company that's already established, does a good job, clearly, because they have a lot of followers, and they're putting on this event, and so it's like it's like reinforcement.
- 31:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 31:44SPEAKER_03: So until Outlast, like although revenue-wise Outlast is bigger, follower-wise, it's it's gonna take some time.
- 31:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but when Outlast becomes just as big or bigger uh fan base, follower-wise, than Texas Outlaw, that's when I would be like, all right, we can put Outlaw Event Group out there.
- 32:03SPEAKER_03: Um, and again, Outlaw Event Group, they can go to the website, it will lead them to either brand.
- 32:08SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 32:09SPEAKER_03: They can click around and explore, yeah, like PepsiCo.
- 32:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 32:13SPEAKER_03: But like you're gonna just go to your brand you like.
- 32:17SPEAKER_03: Um, the reasoning for that is liability protection on the business side.
- 32:22SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 32:23SPEAKER_03: So the reasoning we do that is if you know, God forbid, one of the businesses goes down or something, some category of the business goes down, it won't take out everything else.
- 32:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 32:35SPEAKER_03: And so, like on the business side of this podcast, like if someone owns a business or wants to start a business, once you get like Dave Ramsey talks about revenue, but he's like every like 250k to 500k in like assets, you want to create a new LLC for that.
- 32:50SPEAKER_03: And that way you have basically all these LLCs that are all their own businesses.
- 32:56SPEAKER_03: And if like one gets taken out, you have all your other ones, so you're fine.
- 33:00SPEAKER_03: Um, we have like we have a lot of LLCs, a lot of them I haven't filled yet, but I'm like slowly putting everything into it.
- 33:07SPEAKER_03: But something we did on the back end was we put all of our equipment into a LLC and our companies, Outlast and Texas Outlaw, rent from that equipment company.
- 33:19SPEAKER_03: So we rent our own equipment, but what it does is if like anything, God forbid ever happens to one of those brands, we still have our equipment.
- 33:28SPEAKER_03: So it protects that.
- 33:29SPEAKER_03: Makes sense, yeah.
- 33:30SPEAKER_03: And if you guys don't know, LLCs in general protect you from getting your personal stuff taken.
- 33:34SPEAKER_03: So it's like if if I lost all LLCs for whatever reason, I would still have my personal assets.
- 33:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 33:40SPEAKER_03: So business, business, good business, yeah.
- 33:43SPEAKER_03: Um anyways, going back to the whole bloom thing, there's just some stuff we've been doing lately that feels big, and I'm like, dude, I could taste winning.
- 33:52SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the 12-hour outlast uh medal, 12-inch.
- 33:57SPEAKER_03: Um technically it's the biggest finisher metal for an in-person running event.
- 34:02SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think that's yeah, might need some deeper research on it.
- 34:07SPEAKER_03: But yeah, this there's another event out there you said had a um it was a virtual event that had uh huge finisher metal bigger than ours.
- 34:17SPEAKER_03: But to me, it just doesn't feel legit because it's not an in-person event.
- 34:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and there's debate there.
- 34:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's definitely a room for this one to take top top rank 100%.
- 34:29SPEAKER_03: And I notice in my wordage though, I said one of the biggest finisher medals in the world, which is true.
- 34:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because if you Google biggest finisher medal for a running event right now, technically it is the biggest finisher medal for a running event because a virtual run's not an event.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: Hmm, there you go.
- 34:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I knew there was something off.
- 34:51SPEAKER_00: We've got to get some deep, yeah, yeah.
- 34:52SPEAKER_00: We'll get the clarification.
- 34:54SPEAKER_03: We need to reach out to Guinness.
- 34:56SPEAKER_03: Yes, and just get that settled.
- 34:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, working on it.
- 34:59SPEAKER_03: Because that would be huge marketing.
- 35:01SPEAKER_03: Hey, you can get the world's biggest finisher medal holding the Guinness plaque.
- 35:04SPEAKER_00: 100%.
- 35:04SPEAKER_00: Dude, it's it's really can you do that?
- 35:06SPEAKER_00: I'm working, yes.
- 35:08SPEAKER_00: Okay, in in process, man.
- 35:09SPEAKER_00: We we we're yeah, you're out of frame there.
- 35:12SPEAKER_00: Oh, sorry.
- 35:13SPEAKER_00: Put it in frame.
- 35:14SPEAKER_00: We there is Guinness Book of World Records.
- 35:16SPEAKER_00: We coming.
- 35:17SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so if you guys are happen to be watching visually, which is yeah, you can watch this visually on Spotify.
- 35:24SPEAKER_03: Um, there's a 12-inch metal behind us, and um absolutely massive.
- 35:32SPEAKER_03: It weighs a lot.
- 35:32SPEAKER_03: I don't know how much it weighs.
- 35:34SPEAKER_00: Good few pounds.
- 35:36SPEAKER_03: So, interesting fact about this metal, it's huge.
- 35:40SPEAKER_03: Do you remember the cost of this metal per metal with shipping?
- 35:44SPEAKER_03: Is it 10?
- 35:44SPEAKER_00: 15?
- 35:45SPEAKER_00: It's a little over that, yeah.
- 35:46SPEAKER_03: Between probably around 15.
- 35:49SPEAKER_03: So believe it or not, this if you count shipping.
- 35:52SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this metal's fifteen dollars an RN, which is crazy.
- 35:56SPEAKER_03: But um, it's usually finished metals cost like I don't want to give too much information out there, but usually finished metals cost like three to five bucks.
- 36:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah, less than that for sure, yeah.
- 36:05SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, this thing's sick, dude.
- 36:07SPEAKER_03: 12-inch metal outlast.
- 36:10SPEAKER_03: Um, we posted a video on Instagram, blew up 40k views.
- 36:14SPEAKER_03: We're running it as an ad now.
- 36:16SPEAKER_03: Um, and it might have more than 40k views, it might be 50.
- 36:21SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 36:21SPEAKER_03: It got a lot of views, yeah.
- 36:22SPEAKER_03: And we just filmed that like impromptu in the back of the yeah, just yeah, I was like, hey bro, get a video real quick.
- 36:27SPEAKER_00: Well, and that's that that's yeah, it doesn't even have to be promotional because or like beautifully edited or anything because it's a remarkable piece, yeah.
- 36:36SPEAKER_03: And hold that with the Guinness World Plaque, dude.
- 36:38SPEAKER_03: Sign-ups.
- 36:39SPEAKER_03: I mean, so many people are gonna want that.
- 36:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so they have it, you know.
- 36:43SPEAKER_03: Um, did you put that hat on them?
- 36:46SPEAKER_03: Is that new?
- 36:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, they changed it up, yeah.
- 36:51SPEAKER_03: But uh, so like that blowing up, and then that got a lot got us a lot of signups.
- 36:57SPEAKER_03: Um, so there's that piece and that aspect.
- 37:01SPEAKER_03: The whole idea we have with Bloom and like some of the big things I talked about with Alex Remozi, like we talked about in our last podcast.
- 37:08SPEAKER_03: Um, going after these big dog sponsorships, like yeah, it seems uh with our platform we've built, it seems so achievable.
- 37:15SPEAKER_03: Like I could realistically see myself being able to pull a sponsor for these events and the events um uh you know, providing that platform for all these places because you know, they'll pay three to five thousand dollars for a booth at a place with 500 people.
- 37:33SPEAKER_03: It's like, dude, you could we do like a hundred of these events, yeah.
- 37:38SPEAKER_03: You could be at all of them right for one price, yes, big price, yes, six figures, yes, big price, but it seems so achievable, yeah.
- 37:48SPEAKER_00: Like taking bigger swings, man.
- 37:49SPEAKER_00: I would taste it.
- 37:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's exciting because one, one, uh the event group, outlaw event group has earned it because one, the product is good at the end of the day.
- 38:01SPEAKER_00: Like at the end of the day, like you can do all kinds of crazy marketing stunts that you want, but it doesn't always lead back to good business.
- 38:09SPEAKER_00: Like, there's plenty of times that I've gotten a lot of views and it's resulted in nothing.
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: But you know, at the end of the day, it's like mapping to that good result.
- 38:19SPEAKER_00: You know, you can have a restaurant with great marketing and bad food, right?
- 38:25SPEAKER_00: But where Outlaw exceeds is that uh succeeds is that it's great marketing plus great events.
- 38:32SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, you know what I mean?
- 38:33SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so I feel like you know, the standard of the marketing is we take bigger swings and and getting the getting the word out is just matching the scale at which we're able to put on excellent events as well.
- 38:47SPEAKER_00: So it's like it's like the the convergence of both at the same time, right?
- 38:52SPEAKER_00: Like great great business and great product coming together with great marketing as well at the same time, and then you've got something really magical, yeah.
- 39:02SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and just by the way, I think I don't know if I mentioned this on my podcast, but our marketing.
- 39:09SPEAKER_03: Anyone, did you have to sign the NDA?
- 39:12SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah, okay.
- 39:13SPEAKER_03: So, anyone, anyone involved in our marketing or like operations, but you're in there with Sam, so you hear about it.
- 39:19SPEAKER_03: But literally, our marketing is our trade secret.
- 39:22SPEAKER_03: Like, Sam cannot go and tell other people how we do our marketing, right?
- 39:27SPEAKER_03: She can't go do it for another company, yeah, in general, yeah.
- 39:31SPEAKER_03: So, like if she left, she couldn't run how we do our stuff, she couldn't go do that another company, right?
- 39:37SPEAKER_03: Um, and like NDAs are like super like highly enforceable.
- 39:43SPEAKER_03: Like you get sued if you break those.
- 39:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like it's it's pretty high level.
- 39:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're you're spilling some you spill some great tea or uh business insight on this podcast.
- 39:53SPEAKER_00: People just don't people just aren't aware.
- 39:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what I mean?
- 39:57SPEAKER_00: Because at the same like, you know, you're letting you're letting some good good marketing, you know, ideas and creativity out right now.
- 40:06SPEAKER_00: You know, so if anybody's yeah, but I'm not anybody's hip to it.
- 40:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just what I don't want to do is I don't want to say exactly like how we do our marketing or what we do or what we're doing, and then a competitor of mine hear that and be like, oh, they're doing it, I'm gonna do it.
- 40:21SPEAKER_03: Right, which is likely.
- 40:23SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, that's why I don't say exactly, hey, this is how we're doing our marketing, this is how we uh these are some things we're doing, not the nuts and bolts, not the step one, two, three.
- 40:33SPEAKER_03: It's very broad, sure.
- 40:35SPEAKER_03: And when it comes to sponsorships, um, I'm not afraid to talk about like how I want to go about that or do that because no other running company or event company, there's only like a f three I know of in the US that can do the number of events we're doing.
- 40:51SPEAKER_03: So I'm like the chances of the and even if they did do the sponsorship stuff that I'm thinking of, it's still only like three people, and we're not even the same industry, so it's like whatever.
- 41:01SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I don't care.
- 41:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
- 41:03SPEAKER_00: And it at the end of the day, also it's like ideas or something, execution is everything.
- 41:07SPEAKER_00: That's true.
- 41:08SPEAKER_00: And so it's like, you know, bless you, you can we can we can think up all these crazy ideas, or well to make it somewhat crazy, but at the same time, it's like like what thing, one thing I admire about you is that that we can have an idea that's like, you know what, that might actually work, and you're somebody who's not gonna be like, Yeah, maybe, but it's a five-hour drive or whatever.
- 41:29SPEAKER_00: You're like, yeah, what what day are we gonna do this?
- 41:32SPEAKER_00: Let's get it done, you know what I mean?
- 41:34SPEAKER_00: Like, that's the separation, that's the difference.
- 41:36SPEAKER_00: Is that you can you can have all the ideas, but if you're not somebody who can actually execute, it doesn't even matter.
- 41:42SPEAKER_03: Well, like if you could know, so like if you're if you can know, hey, I could drive, I could spend one day and have the opportunity to make get a hundred thousand dollar check, right?
- 41:56SPEAKER_03: Like trying is better than not trying.
- 41:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
- 41:59SPEAKER_00: And you know, and then even beyond the money, even beyond the money, it's creating new relationships that open all kinds of other doors.
- 42:09SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, like that that's how I think about it too, is just like, yeah, like that's the outcome that we're looking for, but I feel like the value of an outcome, like that outcome is is more than dollars because then you have marketing leverage too.
- 42:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, marketing leverage, yeah, true partnership.
- 42:25SPEAKER_00: You have all kinds of like value that gets baked into that same cake.
- 42:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's it's also beneficial for the other person.
- 42:32SPEAKER_00: That's why the money's there, you know what I mean?
- 42:34SPEAKER_00: It's an exchange of value, it's not just oh, that would be great for us, it's great for them too.
- 42:38SPEAKER_00: Because more, you know, whatever it is, if it's shoes, if it's whatever, you know what I mean, at the events, it just makes the event better and it makes the participants better, makes everything better.
- 42:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 42:51SPEAKER_03: And I yeah, I see that side, I see it as like a double-edged sword, is because like, yes, great, we get some great revenue from it, fantastic, awesome.
- 42:59SPEAKER_03: But like you said, when you show up to an event and you have these known vendors there and they're handing out free stuff, it's like, dude, this is legit.
- 43:07SPEAKER_03: And so, like, it's a double-edged sword because it's like we get paid and we get brand credibility.
- 43:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like dude, yeah, it's win-win.
- 43:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 43:15SPEAKER_03: So taste the winning on it.
- 43:17SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, well, okay, so I almost made this post on Facebook this morning.
- 43:21SPEAKER_03: I didn't, I did not make it, but I almost did.
- 43:23SPEAKER_03: I'll go ahead and share it.
- 43:25SPEAKER_03: But I made a post or I wanted to make a post, I didn't, but I wanted to make a post that said, if you want to build a running event brand, the best time to start was six years ago, not today.
- 43:38SPEAKER_03: Legit.
- 43:39SPEAKER_00: Why why are you say that?
- 43:40SPEAKER_03: Because if you are starting from scratch, like I did, you have to first learn everything.
- 43:47SPEAKER_03: Once you learn everything, you can you duplicate.
- 43:49SPEAKER_03: Once you duplicate, you then have to go through a you pretty much have to put on a blue collar labor hat.
- 43:58SPEAKER_03: You have to take that.
- 44:00SPEAKER_03: That hat off, and you have to put on a business hat.
- 44:03SPEAKER_03: And you have to learn how to run a business at that point.
- 44:07SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 44:08SPEAKER_03: So like it doesn't matter what you're doing.
- 44:09SPEAKER_03: If you own a plumbing company and you max out how many houses you're going to every day, it's like, okay, you have to take your plumber hat off and become a business person now.
- 44:18SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 44:19SPEAKER_03: If you want to grow.
- 44:20SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 44:20SPEAKER_03: Um, and I've maximized every day for the past six years.
- 44:28SPEAKER_03: And everything I've done, I've made it permanent and given it a compound effect.
- 44:34SPEAKER_03: When I looked at our number of events we have next year, I was like, dude, I was like, we were at like 40 two years ago.
- 44:41SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 44:42SPEAKER_03: Maybe 30 two years ago.
- 44:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 44:44SPEAKER_03: It wasn't a year and a half ago, we were at 30.
- 44:48SPEAKER_03: We're at 120 today.
- 44:50SPEAKER_03: Next year we'll be at 200 something.
- 44:53SPEAKER_03: When I saw that, it's the compound effect.
- 44:57SPEAKER_03: It's like if you put a penny, if a penny doubles every day for 30 years, it becomes a million dollars.
- 45:02SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 45:02SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 45:02SPEAKER_03: I've put stuff in place to make it a compound effect.
- 45:05SPEAKER_03: But it to even get to a place where you can then start compounding and increasing your events, it takes three years, three to four years to even get to that point.
- 45:12SPEAKER_03: That's if you know how to build it right.
- 45:15SPEAKER_03: And once you get to that point, you then have to learn leadership stuff and like grow as a person to handle the growth.
- 45:24SPEAKER_03: But like minimum to even get to the point of a compound effect in the running event business, because I've I've done it the fastest way possible to like get it to where it is now.
- 45:34SPEAKER_03: It takes three to four years.
- 45:36SPEAKER_03: And so if someone started a business today that was running events, they would not be able to get to our level where we're at today for another six, five to six years.
- 45:46SPEAKER_03: And that was with me putting in long hours early on, 80, 100 hours a week.
- 45:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 45:52SPEAKER_03: So really probably eight years of work and six years.
- 45:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 45:55SPEAKER_03: Probably more than that.
- 45:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 45:57SPEAKER_03: And then you put in the equation of employees.
- 46:00SPEAKER_03: It's like each employee is putting in 40 hours a week.
- 46:03SPEAKER_03: You have 10 employees, that's 400 hours a week.
- 46:07SPEAKER_03: That's the compound effect.
- 46:09SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 46:10SPEAKER_03: Um, and so it's like, and running industry is just now taking off, which is why this is the best time for us to have this platform because we have this platform at the perfect time where running starting to be a cool thing, right?
- 46:28SPEAKER_03: And so it's a perfect blend.
- 46:29SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 46:30SPEAKER_03: Um, and you can't start today and be a uh known brand that's um seen as a good repu reputable brand.
- 46:43SPEAKER_03: The brands that have been around are the ones that get the benefit of this.
- 46:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, they can really capitalize and and and ride the wave, ride the momentum, and been around.
- 46:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that the culture is is is doing exactly like you have the brand trust.
- 46:58SPEAKER_03: If you're a person that sells bandanas and you've been selling it every year for five years, and then all of a sudden bandanas become cool, everyone's gonna buy bandanas from you, not the guy that no one knows.
- 47:12SPEAKER_00: So why would you say that they shouldn't start today?
- 47:15SPEAKER_00: Like if if somebody had if if it's a plumber or running event or or whatever, why why why shouldn't they start today to set themselves up for five years from now?
- 47:24SPEAKER_00: They should they should have started yesterday.
- 47:27SPEAKER_00: So so really the message is to start today.
- 47:29SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, yeah.
- 47:31SPEAKER_00: Good luck though, keeping up with us if if you're a running brand.
- 47:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean if you're a running brand and you're like, man, I want to be I want to be big, it's like it's gonna take six years, five years, minimum.
- 47:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 47:45SPEAKER_03: Like I've done everything.
- 47:46SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it takes minimum five years to do it well.
- 47:51SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 47:51SPEAKER_03: You know what's funny too, and I'll talk about this for a minute.
- 47:54SPEAKER_03: It's hilarious, dude.
- 47:55SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I should talk about it.
- 47:57SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna talk about it.
- 47:58SPEAKER_03: There's this guy.
- 48:01SPEAKER_03: This is like uh I don't even know what I can and can't say about this.
- 48:07SPEAKER_03: There's this guy that um just generalize it.
- 48:13SPEAKER_03: Okay, there's make it a story.
- 48:15SPEAKER_03: Okay, it's like a made-up story.
- 48:16SPEAKER_03: So in a far land away, we had this idea to put on this big awesome running event, okay?
- 48:23SPEAKER_03: And then this there's this guy that came in, he was like, Oh, hey, like we'll work together and we'll do this together.
- 48:29SPEAKER_03: And I was like, perfect.
- 48:30SPEAKER_03: Like it's gonna take multiple people to do this cool big running event.
- 48:33SPEAKER_03: Let's have you work with us.
- 48:35SPEAKER_03: And we were working together to make this awesome, cool running event.
- 48:38SPEAKER_03: Well, turns out as this running event got closer, this guy just became unactive.
- 48:48SPEAKER_03: And to my surprise, he started another event in the same area as the event we had originally planned, named it something similar to what we had named it, and um basically on his page of the event was throwing shots at us being a company putting on a running event.
- 49:14SPEAKER_03: And so then we ceased relationship, right?
- 49:18SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 49:19SPEAKER_03: So this guy who was gonna work with work with us originally went and did his own thing without telling us, and then took shots at us, and then we found out and then ceased the relationship.
- 49:31SPEAKER_03: And it was funny because in order to do what he wanted what he was trying to do, it takes a massive amount of infrastructure, team, tents, trailers, trucks.
- 49:39SPEAKER_03: And I tried to explain that to him early on, and he got upset and that we weren't doing the big event that he wanted.
- 49:47SPEAKER_03: Like he wanted to like what we were doing was already a big event.
- 49:50SPEAKER_03: He wanted to do something bigger, so he went to do his own bigger thing than what we could do on his own.
- 49:56SPEAKER_03: And we looked at the page yesterday just for like funs and giggles.
- 50:03SPEAKER_03: This dude who was supposed to be this big historical running event, ended up doing a um ended up shortening it and making it like a typical loop event that you see everywhere else in Texas because he didn't have the infrastructure team to do it.
- 50:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah, shot himself in the foot.
- 50:23SPEAKER_03: He could have been a part of something huge.
- 50:24SPEAKER_03: This running event we're doing is going to be a historical race in Texas.
- 50:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he could have been a part of this.
- 50:31SPEAKER_03: He chose to go do his own thing and then ended up going not even be able to do the thing he originally intended to do and ended up making it shorter, right?
- 50:40SPEAKER_03: Took shots at us, ruined and burned the bridge of the relationship.
- 50:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and now we get the marketing and the idea of this big event and our names attached to it.
- 50:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, you know what it makes me think of?
- 50:54SPEAKER_00: What the phrase, if you want to go fast, go alone.
- 50:58SPEAKER_00: If you want to go far, go together.
- 51:00SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 51:00SPEAKER_00: But that fast doesn't necessarily mean you will you might go fast right into the ditch.
- 51:07SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 51:08SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
- 51:08SPEAKER_00: Depending on what your actual ambition is.
- 51:11SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 51:11SPEAKER_00: And so, yeah, I don't know.
- 51:13SPEAKER_00: That just came to mind.
- 51:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 51:14SPEAKER_03: Well, it's just like you, man, you could have really been a part of something great and historical, and your name could have been on it.
- 51:21SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 51:21SPEAKER_03: And you completely threw it away.
- 51:23SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 51:23SPEAKER_00: Fumble the bag.
- 51:24SPEAKER_03: And to be fair, he does, which is crazy, but he still gets um a monetary benefit from this event for a few years, and then it's done.
- 51:37SPEAKER_03: But it's it's almost like sin, to where it's like sin is feels great in the moment, but has destructive long-term effects.
- 51:46SPEAKER_03: And it's like, you know, this guy doesn't necessarily follow Christ.
- 51:50SPEAKER_03: And so, like, I know that.
- 51:53SPEAKER_03: And so, like, I'm never gonna like burn a bridge and like do something like that.
- 51:58SPEAKER_03: But he gets this monetary benefit, which is great, right?
- 52:02SPEAKER_03: But he gets this monetary benefit, but then after the monetary benefit's no longer there, then what?
- 52:08SPEAKER_03: Right, it's like kind of sad, it's like nothing.
- 52:12SPEAKER_03: It's like my name's not on it, house on sandwich, and not making any more value, I'm not getting any more value from it at all.
- 52:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like a short term, it's like making a car sale.
- 52:22SPEAKER_03: It's like cool in the moment, cool.
- 52:24SPEAKER_03: I made commission, and then it's like a year later, you're like, dang, I'm not selling any more cars.
- 52:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 52:30SPEAKER_03: So yeah, yeah, I don't know.
- 52:32SPEAKER_03: Just uh that that was something we talked about yesterday.
- 52:34SPEAKER_03: Um but uh yeah, it was just I don't know how I got on that topic, but just like in like my my advice there is like in business, like always have like just follow the what the Bible says in business.
- 52:51SPEAKER_03: Like the Bible, the Bible says when someone takes your cloak, give them two.
- 52:55SPEAKER_03: If they make you go a mile, go two.
- 52:57SPEAKER_03: And so like this guy, he doesn't deserve the monetary benefit that he's getting, but I'm gonna give it to him in more because that's what the Bible says to do.
- 53:04SPEAKER_03: And I hope that out of doing that, he might see the goodness of Christ.
- 53:11SPEAKER_00: Amen.
- 53:11SPEAKER_03: Yeah, amen.
- 53:12SPEAKER_00: So respect for that.
- 53:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean it's tough.
- 53:16SPEAKER_00: Business is you know, is different.
- 53:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's like that you're that that's just like another uh business uh lesson, you know, and like you never know you never know where people truly are at until they show you, until they show you.
- 53:34SPEAKER_03: Well, my goal too, which I learned my lesson there.
- 53:36SPEAKER_03: I mean, the Bible says don't do business with unbelievers, like it literally says that.
- 53:40SPEAKER_03: So, like that was a real reason why you shouldn't, because it's like they're not gonna like when when you're living with Christ, you're gonna treat someone like Christ would.
- 53:49SPEAKER_03: But when someone's not living with Christ, they're gonna treat you like a natural man would, right?
- 53:55SPEAKER_03: And so it like makes sense to her when you have a heart of Christ, you have a selfless um perspective on the world and relationships, it's very selfless.
- 54:06SPEAKER_03: When you have a worldly heart, it's selfish.
- 54:08SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's just because you're inherently sinful and like you haven't been set free by the power of Christ.
- 54:14SPEAKER_03: Uh that's I mean, that's what it boils down to.
- 54:16SPEAKER_03: So it makes sense.
- 54:16SPEAKER_03: Like when you have a opposing force going against a giving force, the opposing force wins in the short term, but the giving force wins in the long term.
- 54:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 54:25SPEAKER_00: So yeah, and on on whole different levels.
- 54:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know?
- 54:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 54:32SPEAKER_00: Um yeah.
- 54:34SPEAKER_00: There's there's wisdom in that.
- 54:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 54:36SPEAKER_03: So um, yeah, my biggest thing like in business, man, I just don't want like I want to make sure that I never do someone wrong.
- 54:46SPEAKER_03: Like I want to make sure I live up to like like I like the Bible talks about being blameless.
- 54:53SPEAKER_03: My goal in my day-to-day life is just being blameless, but like when you give something someone something more than what they're taking from you, that is the most like humble thing you could do, and it makes you extra blameless.
- 55:10SPEAKER_03: To where it's like, hold on, you stole this from him and then he gave you more.
- 55:17SPEAKER_03: It's like, dude, you can't come against a guy who's just giving, you know?
- 55:21SPEAKER_03: And so my goal, like like I I would I don't know how long we're gonna, you know, how long I'll be in business or like what my future looks like.
- 55:31SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, I could do this till I'm 90 years old, dude.
- 55:34SPEAKER_03: And this is fun.
- 55:35SPEAKER_03: Um, but I want to make sure like by the end of my life, I can die knowing I owe no one nothing.
- 55:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like no one has bad beef with me, right?
- 55:46SPEAKER_03: Because I gave them what I told them I'd give them, gave them more than what I told them I'd give them.
- 55:51SPEAKER_03: But claim this man, man of your word, yeah, yeah.
- 55:55SPEAKER_03: So um, yeah, fitness-wise, dude.
- 56:01SPEAKER_03: Um, just kind of wrap up the podcast, man.
- 56:03SPEAKER_03: Um, still recovering from the 100 mile.
- 56:06SPEAKER_00: You still feel it a little?
- 56:07SPEAKER_03: Um, whenever I go on like a long walk or run, the next day I'm sore.
- 56:11SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 56:12SPEAKER_03: And it's been what two, three weeks?
- 56:15SPEAKER_03: So um, yeah, 100 mile.
- 56:18SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's probably a couple months of like deep tissue recovery.
- 56:22SPEAKER_03: Um, I've been doing a little run once a week, like a few miles, because I have an eight-year run streak for where I've been doing a run at least once a week for eight years straight.
- 56:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I didn't realize that until after my 100 miler.
- 56:34SPEAKER_03: Um, but I'm trying to keep that alive.
- 56:36SPEAKER_03: So I at least try to run like minimum, like a few miles at least once a week to keep the streak alive.
- 56:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 56:43SPEAKER_03: Because I want to be like 80 years, be like, looking this race.
- 56:47SPEAKER_03: Have an 80 year run streak on Strava.
- 56:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah, heck yeah.
- 56:50SPEAKER_03: Um, but everyone's like, oh, what's the next thing?
- 56:53SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 56:54SPEAKER_03: I'm not, I'm not, um, I'm interested to see like fitness-wise, like what you're going after here soon.
- 57:00SPEAKER_03: Um, but me personally, I'm chilling and I'm just in recovery mode and I'm retired from running for a month or two.
- 57:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 57:06SPEAKER_03: Like I'm retired.
- 57:08SPEAKER_03: Um, and then I think after a month or two, I did enter the lottery for the go one more ultra.
- 57:15SPEAKER_03: The chances of me getting that are like none.
- 57:17SPEAKER_03: But if I do get into that, obviously I'll train for it.
- 57:20SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 57:20SPEAKER_03: But if I don't get into that, I don't as of today, I don't know what my next thing is, but I'll I'll always have something.
- 57:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 57:28SPEAKER_03: Like I'll I'll always have at least one hard challenge a year.
- 57:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 57:32SPEAKER_03: Like this year's challenge, like that was just a bucket list life goal, 100 mile race.
- 57:36SPEAKER_03: Like I I've been wanting to do that since I was like a kid.
- 57:40SPEAKER_03: Um check that off the list.
- 57:42SPEAKER_03: And so next year, like I'll have one thing I go after.
- 57:46SPEAKER_03: Um, and I don't know what it'll be.
- 57:49SPEAKER_03: Uh it'll be something.
- 57:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 57:50SPEAKER_03: I just like always doing like working towards that's what gets me up to train every day is like, oh, I have this whatever race coming up.
- 57:57SPEAKER_03: I need to train for it.
- 57:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 57:59SPEAKER_03: I did I did go two years of running with no real race in mind.
- 58:03SPEAKER_03: I just ran every day for keeping fitness.
- 58:06SPEAKER_03: So like it is possible to do it with no race.
- 58:09SPEAKER_00: It's just like it's way more fun with a with a finish line in mind.
- 58:13SPEAKER_03: Yeah, knowing like, hey, I'm training for this, I really got to get my long runs in, you know.
- 58:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 58:18SPEAKER_03: Um but uh so I don't know yet.
- 58:22SPEAKER_03: I'm just recovering.
- 58:23SPEAKER_03: Is there anything you're training for specifically?
- 58:25SPEAKER_00: Not specifically.
- 58:26SPEAKER_00: Uh I ran three miles last week.
- 58:28SPEAKER_00: Sick.
- 58:29SPEAKER_00: You just did, you know, and I've got like some walking with the dogs, you know, coming in, but yeah, uh, I don't really count that.
- 58:35SPEAKER_00: But uh three miles last week.
- 58:37SPEAKER_00: This week has been uh we're wrapping up, we're 99.5% done with uh the move.
- 58:43SPEAKER_00: And so like last night we got in at like 8 30, and so had to be up like way early.
- 58:49SPEAKER_00: So kind of canceled my run today.
- 58:50SPEAKER_00: So I'm I'm getting to a place where I'm gonna have a consistent schedule that I can like I'm gonna run this day, this day, this day.
- 58:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so I don't have a particular race on the calendar, however, I do have like Outlast on my mind.
- 59:08SPEAKER_00: I want to get an Outlast in just to experience it.
- 59:11SPEAKER_00: And then um you're gonna go like Outlast Ultra, you think?
- 59:14SPEAKER_00: Or yeah, I think that's a good one to do.
- 59:17SPEAKER_00: Like like I'd like to, I'd like, you know, the 5k every hour for six hours, uh, as much as I'm uh like I respect the respect the challenge that I've never done, I'm pretty confident I can do that.
- 59:32SPEAKER_00: Like for me, I feel like the 12 hours the better thing to experience and uh to like shoot for as far as like a goal.
- 59:40SPEAKER_00: And then the other is just dude, I'd love to get the like the Legend series, like the Big Texas, like like I'd love to get those done just just purely to visit every corner of Texas, yeah, and like be able to have that under my belt.
- 59:56SPEAKER_00: Like that would be awesome.
- 59:58SPEAKER_03: What about Outlast National Collection?
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_03: That's a new thing we're about to launch.
- 1:00:01SPEAKER_03: We haven't launched it yet.
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_03: That would be awesome.
- 1:00:04SPEAKER_03: Does that like visit your mind?
- 1:00:05SPEAKER_03: Because you can do the six or twelve or twenty four for any of those, but like that one, you go to six different parts of America and run at least one outlast race in each of the six regions.
- 1:00:15SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it comes together and creates the United States in like a two-foot frame.
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_03: Um that'd be sick.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_03: Like, is that something that interests you?
- 1:00:24SPEAKER_00: Oh, heck yeah, dude.
- 1:00:25SPEAKER_00: That would be so awesome.
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_00: That would be so awesome.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_00: I like I think about just collecting that on a wall, like moving, right?
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_00: I've I had probably freaking 25, 30 metals that I like I moved from my wall that was hanging up.
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_00: Um my wife got me like a named like metal holder, yeah, you know, which was which is cool.
- 1:00:44SPEAKER_00: I got some similar, yeah.
- 1:00:45SPEAKER_00: Um, but like I'm thinking about like, man, it would be really cool to have a framed something like that.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, so like frame like those special metals that we create.
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_00: Like, like I love the fact that we do that because it's so unique, um, and you can't get it anywhere else, and it looks that much better than a whole bunch of different metals hanging on the wall.
- 1:01:09SPEAKER_00: Like it it it also marks the consistency, and I mean, just the travel experience is awesome too.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, that's definitely like bucket list too.
- 1:01:18SPEAKER_00: Like the uh one thing about outlaws is that it does set you up for some great bucket list kind of items uh that you can that you can uh collect and plan for and experience.
- 1:01:30SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, maybe that's maybe not something that I can accomplish in the next year because that's a lot of travel.
- 1:01:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if you do that and the and the ultra series, it's it's like 20 moons.
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_00: Like now I just got to get to a point where I'm I'm tracking, you know, 20 25 miles a week or something like that.
- 1:01:47SPEAKER_00: Like I want to get to where I'm I'm definitely ready for any kind of longer distance uh at any time.
- 1:01:55SPEAKER_03: And so what are we gonna get you to your first hundred 100k 100 miler?
- 1:02:00SPEAKER_00: Uh 100 miler, yeah.
- 1:02:03SPEAKER_00: That that's another thing.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_00: That's another thing.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_00: Like, I gotta get to the 50 miler.
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've got the 80 on 80 idea that I that I shared with you that I want to do.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that would be an awesome local experience um that we could we could create some content around.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_00: Um be a great local thing.
- 1:02:17SPEAKER_00: So, you know, if I could do the 80 on 80 by this time next year, like that would be sick.
- 1:02:22SPEAKER_03: And for listeners, 80, it's 80 miles on highway 80.
- 1:02:26SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah, here in East Texas.
- 1:02:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:29SPEAKER_00: From uh basically my hometown to this office, essentially.
- 1:02:33SPEAKER_00: Like I'll just track it for the city.
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_03: Or like we'll do an arch for you.
- 1:02:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right on, dude.
- 1:02:38SPEAKER_03: I mean, at that rate, you'd finish about 2 a.m., 2, 3 a.m.
- 1:02:41SPEAKER_03: Let's see 80 miles.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_03: You'd finish about a mile 80, you'd be at like at a normal 100 mile pace, about four or five.
- 1:02:50SPEAKER_03: You'd be four or five a.m.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_03: Finish.
- 1:02:52SPEAKER_00: That's good.
- 1:02:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's good.
- 1:02:54SPEAKER_00: Like, I'd wanna, I'd I'd I'd I'd plan it to where I start the run.
- 1:02:59SPEAKER_00: I'd want to end the run like in the morning or the evening, like daylight.
- 1:03:03SPEAKER_03: Like that's when I would want to we could make that a free event by the way.
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_03: We can throw that up on ultra sign up and be like, hey, finishers, we'll get a free buckle.
- 1:03:11SPEAKER_03: Sign up for free.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_03: And if you wanted a group of people to run with, you we could definitely do that.
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_03: And we'll set up a finish line here, just unsupported.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_03: Uh you will get a medal if you finish unofficial event.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_00: They call them uh design my own medal.
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they call them uh fat ASS events.
- 1:03:30SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
- 1:03:31SPEAKER_03: Uh we're not gonna, I'm not gonna cuss because it's a Christian show, but um yeah, they call them fat ASS events, and they um are basically free events that someone just sets up kind of uh unofficially, yeah.
- 1:03:45SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I've thought about that too.
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_00: Of just doing maybe like a yeah, anyway.
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_00: So that's that's those are all the ideas that are floating around in my head.
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_00: But first, I gotta get from three miles a week and I gotta ramp that up.
- 1:03:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so cold weather is uh is uh uh some sometimes hard for me to push through, get up, get up in there early morning and and crank it out at like you know 40 degrees.
- 1:04:06SPEAKER_00: It's not fun, yeah.
- 1:04:07SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, that's just the that's that's the limit that I need to break through and make sure that I do.
- 1:04:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm cool, man.
- 1:04:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, good podcast today.
- 1:04:17SPEAKER_03: I guess if we end up going to Bloom next week, we'll talk about it.
- 1:04:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:04:21SPEAKER_03: Um, I I the reason I say if, I gotta talk to my wife because it's gonna be like early wake or kind of an early leave.
- 1:04:27SPEAKER_03: So I gotta talk to her.
- 1:04:28SPEAKER_03: But yeah, that's why I say if.
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_03: I hope we can, hope she's cool with it.
- 1:04:31SPEAKER_03: But it's funny because she's probably listening to this podcast potentially, gotta get with our schedule.
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_03: Um, but thanks for listening, guys, to the Get Her Done podcast.
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- 1:04:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah, see you guys on the next episode.