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Bonus Episode: Shocking Details in D4vd’s Evidence Brief Surrounding the Murder of Celeste Rivas Hernandez · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: This episode contains content that may be disturbing to some listeners.
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Speaker 3: Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 3: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we
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Speaker 3: after the show, the party after the party, the bridge
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Speaker 3: to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to
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Speaker 3: the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On
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Speaker 3: this bonus episode, we are talking about the shockingly stupid
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Speaker 3: evidence that's piling up against hip hop star David's alleged
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Speaker 3: gruesome murder of a fourteen year old. We're also discussing
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Speaker 3: the mount rushmore of guitar players. We got an update
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Speaker 5: All Right, disc goes, Let's get into it, all right.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to come off as outraged or shocked,
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Speaker 3: but that's what I am, right And I'm kind of
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Speaker 3: pissed off at myself because all last week we were
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Speaker 3: talking about the quote unquote most upsetting stories from music history,
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Speaker 3: and there was one developing in real time right under
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Speaker 3: our noses, and we didn't talk about it. I'm talking
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Speaker 3: about David, the rising hip hop star whose name is
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Speaker 3: spelled D four VD and the alleged murder, gruesome murder
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Speaker 3: of a fourteen year old his fourteen year old girlfriend. Now,
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Speaker 3: the story of David and his fourteen year old girlfriend,
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Speaker 3: Celeste Revs Hernandez, it's about as upsetting as it gets.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: I've known about the allegations against David for some time now,
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Speaker 3: this story has been in the news, but a lot
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Speaker 3: of new news broke over the last call it week
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Speaker 3: and a half something like that when a new evidence
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Speaker 3: brief was introduced in court in Los Angeles regarding this case,
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Speaker 3: and what came out of that brief are shocking, shocking
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Speaker 3: details about this crime that this star is being alleged
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Speaker 3: to have committed now again, his fourteen year old girlfriend,
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Speaker 3: Celeste Revs Hernandez. You might see her name as just
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Speaker 3: as Celeste. I've seen it both ways, celest Rivus Hernandez,
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Speaker 3: celest Revs. BBC had the Hernandez part, so did Rolling Stone.
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm going with. So the victim, Celeste Revus Hernandez,
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Speaker 3: was fourteen years old, eleven years old when this musician,
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Speaker 3: David met her.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Now I.
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Speaker 3: Was also I was aware of that, and I was
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Speaker 3: also aware of the grizzly nature of this crime, the
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Speaker 3: grizzly act, which this artist is being accused of. But
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Speaker 3: I was unaware of the details, like I said, until today.
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Speaker 3: And that's because those details came out in court in
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Speaker 3: this new evidence brief and yesterday. Presumably because the details
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Speaker 3: of this crime are so damning, are so gruesome, David's
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Speaker 3: defense team formally requested and received a delay in the trial. Now, normally,
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Speaker 3: in a case like this that's developing, you know, as
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Speaker 3: we're talking to each other week to week, I typically
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Speaker 3: avoid those stories unless they're huge, like the Sean Ditecomb story.
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Speaker 3: I typically avoid those stories until all the dust is
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Speaker 3: settled until there's been a trial, until there's been some
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Speaker 3: sort of legal resolution, until all of the news has
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Speaker 3: come out for the most part, and you know, at
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Speaker 3: that point, I can piece together the story and I
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Speaker 3: can tell it to you. This story, on the other hand,
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Speaker 3: is a little bit different. It's a little bit like
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Speaker 3: the Shawan Combs story because these details are unbelievable, and
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Speaker 3: you know, again it's all alleged, but I have a
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Speaker 3: real feeling about this one. Okay, these facts, these details,
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Speaker 3: the stuff that's going on in this Los Angeles court
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Speaker 3: room surrounding this artist, it's gonna be too hard for
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Speaker 3: us to ignore. So I'm gonna get into it with
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Speaker 3: you guys here in the after Party bonus episodes, and
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Speaker 3: I'm absolutely telling this story as soon as this trial wraps.
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Speaker 3: It's fascinating, like I said, and it's totally upsetting for
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Speaker 3: those who are unaware. Okay, here we go. Up until
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Speaker 3: last fall, David was one of the Pop six Rising
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Speaker 3: Stars Okay last year. Last spring twenty twenty five, he
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Speaker 3: turned in an acclaimed performance at Coachella. He showed up
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Speaker 3: at Fashion Week in Paris. He booked a bunch of
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Speaker 3: brand deals. This guy was a real rising star. This
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Speaker 3: was not some you know, hip hop artist with a
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Speaker 3: SoundCloud who got into trouble and who they're trying to
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Speaker 3: make it seem like he had this real career when
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Speaker 3: he didn't, just so they can get clicks and inflate
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Speaker 3: his importance so that the story seems more relevant. No,
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Speaker 3: this guy, No, this guy was a legit rising star
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Speaker 3: until they found a body in the trunk of his tesla.
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Speaker 3: The body was the victim his fourteen year old girlfriend,
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Speaker 3: Celeste Revus Hernandez. Fourteen years old. I can't get over this.
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Speaker 3: I just cannot. Her poor poor parents, her poor family.
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Speaker 3: Now the story. That's why I love these court documents.
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Speaker 3: They read like they sometimes, if they're done right, they
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Speaker 3: read like incredible crime novels. The details, the compelling details
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Speaker 3: in the evidence brief that was released just last week,
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Speaker 3: are amazing. The story goes like this. It's alleged that
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Speaker 3: David began pursuing Celeste when she was eleven years old
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Speaker 3: and he was eighteen, and it's unclear when exactly they
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Speaker 3: actually hooked up, but it does appear from what I
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Speaker 3: read that the relationship began in earnest, when she was thirteen.
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Speaker 2: Years old, and again he was a full grown man.
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Speaker 3: Reportedly, as the new evidence brief indicates, David drove his
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Speaker 3: car down to Celeste junior.
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Speaker 2: High school, high school.
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Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure, fourteen years old, probably high school freshman.
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Speaker 3: I'm guessing David drove his car down there was like
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Speaker 3: a south of Los Angeles, and he found one of
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Speaker 3: Celeste's classmates paid him a thousand dollars to deliver a
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Speaker 3: cell phone to Celest so that he could communicate with
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Speaker 3: the fourteen year old, presumably because her parents were onto
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Speaker 3: the situation and didn't want their daughter communicating with a
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Speaker 3: twenty one year old or twenty year however year old
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Speaker 3: he was at the time, twenty twenty one year old
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Speaker 3: man understandably, so he pays this dude a thousand bucks
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Speaker 3: as kid, I should say, a thousand bucks to deliver
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Speaker 3: the cell phone to Celeste. Now, texts recovered from that
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Speaker 3: cell phone there's a lot of sexual content. There's photos, photographs, video,
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Speaker 3: I think as well of the two of them, and
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of conversations between the two about sex
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Speaker 3: and about the consequences of sex, pregnancy, the morning after
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Speaker 3: pill et cetera. There's also of course their conversation their
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Speaker 3: normal conversation, and in the course of that conversation, at
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Speaker 3: some point, Celeste becomes annoyed with David and complaints that
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Speaker 3: quote all we do is have sex and just hang out,
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Speaker 3: and I want more than that for myself unquote. Now,
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Speaker 3: the evidence brief claims that in November of twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 3: just as David's career is taking off in earnest, as
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Speaker 3: plans to perform at Coachella are cemented, as his trip
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Speaker 3: to Paris for fashion Week is coming into play, as
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Speaker 3: big dollar brand deals are being booked. Right around this time,
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Speaker 3: Celeste starts to get jealous of David's rising star and
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Speaker 3: worried about his growing success and what that meant for
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Speaker 3: their relationship. That's when David breaks it off with Celeste.
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Speaker 3: Prosecutors claim that the text reveal that Celeste was extremely
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Speaker 3: upset and threatened to use the evidence that she had
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming the photographs of his sexual nature that the
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Speaker 3: two were texting back and forth to one another to
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Speaker 3: take their relationship public into quote unquote. The brief actually
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Speaker 3: says that this is what Celeste told David she was
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Speaker 3: going to bring the relationship public to quote destroy his life.
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine the defense attorneys hearing this evidence, getting
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Speaker 3: wind of this evidence, It's no wonder they requested that
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Speaker 3: the trial be delayed so that they can prepare. Court
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Speaker 3: reporters revealed via TMZ that as this evidence was being recounted,
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Speaker 3: David sat slouched in his chair the entire time, apparently
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Speaker 3: completely nonplused, and apparently the recounting of the details of
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Speaker 3: this shocking crime did not rattle the young musician. Prosecutors
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Speaker 3: are claiming that in the midst of this breakup between
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Speaker 3: David and Celeste, David sent an uber to pick Celeste
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Speaker 3: up on April twenty third, twenty twenty five. Celeste then
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Speaker 3: arrived at David's home according to Uber records, at ten
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Speaker 3: ten pm okay, and it appears that by ten thirty pm,
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Speaker 3: Celeste was dead, stabbed to death allegedly by her boyfriend,
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Speaker 3: who sat and watched as the fourteen year old bled
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Speaker 3: out on his floor right in front of him. At
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Speaker 3: ten thirty, David texted Celeste asking where she was now.
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Speaker 3: Prosecutors claim that this was part of the cover up. Okay,
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Speaker 3: David the concerned boyfriend texting about his girlfriend's whereabouts. How
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Speaker 3: dumb is this guy? The Uber driver dropped her off
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Speaker 3: at his home in the Hollywood Hills. I don't understand
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Speaker 3: what the dude was thinking. Was he going to claim
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Speaker 3: that the coyotes gut her? That uh Manson family cast
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Speaker 3: offs there are still roaming the Hollywood Hills. Perhaps they
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Speaker 3: took Celeste. It's unclear what David is alleged to have
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Speaker 3: done with the body in the immediate aftermath, because it
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Speaker 3: took the musician six days to order from Amazon and Postmates,
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Speaker 3: and I kid you not two chainsaws, a body bag,
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Speaker 3: two heavy duty laundry bags, and a small blue inflatable
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Speaker 3: kiddie pool that he had delivered to his house again
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Speaker 3: where the uber dropped off his girlfriend, who is now
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Speaker 3: reported missing a few weeks after the chainsaws and the
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Speaker 3: body bag were delivered. Weird question, by the way, when
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Speaker 3: did we start making it so you could order body
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Speaker 3: bags off of Amazon? But that's just beside the point anyway.
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Speaker 3: A few days after the chain saws and the body
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Speaker 3: bag were delivered to David's home, David started visiting a
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Speaker 3: remote piece of land off of Route one fifty four
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Speaker 3: in Santa Barbara County. Presumably this is authorities figured out
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Speaker 3: where David went here after his girlfriend went missing, because
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Speaker 3: tesla's they make a digital record where the car goes.
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Speaker 3: But David here, our criminal mastermind, our mensa candidate, did
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Speaker 3: not know this, and we should just remind people. He
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Speaker 3: also had the victim delivered to his house an uber
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Speaker 3: that he paid for.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so my.
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Speaker 3: Point is, I guess it's no wonder that he didn't
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Speaker 3: realize that the Tesla's GPS was recording where he was going. Anyways,
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Speaker 3: the order of events here from the evidence brief, But
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Speaker 3: what prosecutors are alleging in short, is that David stabs
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Speaker 3: Celeste in his home, then hid her identification somewhere on
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Speaker 3: the side of the road, then dismembered her body with
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Speaker 3: a chainsaw that he ordered from Home deep O via Postmates,
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Speaker 3: and he did that in an inflatable pool that he
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Speaker 3: purchased on Amazon, and then stuffed her in a body
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Speaker 3: bag that he also purchased on Amazon, put the dismembered
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Speaker 3: and bag body into the trunk of his Tesla. Now
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Speaker 3: it's alleged in the brief that friends complained about the
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Speaker 3: smell coming from the car, and that David then moved
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Speaker 3: his car to the street about four hundred feet from
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Speaker 3: his house, again MENSA candidate, and left it there with
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Speaker 3: the rank body decomposing in the trunk. David then split
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Speaker 3: for tour in July of twenty twenty five. While he's
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Speaker 3: gone on tour, his cars towed and impounded. The flies
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Speaker 3: ring around the car in the towyard were relentless, apparently,
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Speaker 3: so the trunk of the car was opened, celess dismembered
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Speaker 3: head and torso were found, her ring and middle fingers
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Speaker 3: were not. David's home was eventually searched, and of all
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Speaker 3: the stupid shit that this dude is a led show
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Speaker 3: dumb thus far, this might be the dumbest, and reading
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Speaker 3: the evidence brief, I can't be certain, but it appears
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Speaker 3: that this guy kept the kiddie pool, the blue inflatable
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Speaker 3: kiddie pool that he bought on Amazon and that he
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Speaker 3: used to capture the blood from the dismembering of the body.
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Speaker 3: He kept that in his garage and it was found
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Speaker 3: when police searched his home. If record sales correlated to stupidity,
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Speaker 3: this guy would be Michael fucking Jackson. Now, there are
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Speaker 3: many many acts of supreme stupidity from rock stars throughout
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Speaker 3: music history from the benign and the innocent to the
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Speaker 3: depraved and the gruesome, and I asked Zeth to come
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way David gets off, but
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Speaker 3: we have to just note all of this is alleged.
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Speaker 3: Nothing has been proven. This guy is still innocent until
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Speaker 3: proven guilty. There's so much more evidence in the brief
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Speaker 3: here that I did not get into that is truly
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Speaker 3: dramatic and that we're going to dive into. Like I said,
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Speaker 3: once the trial ends, we'll do a proper episode on David. Now, Okay,
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Speaker 3: Steve Ravaughan, is he on your Mount Rushmore guitarist? We
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Speaker 3: released our SRV episode this week, and that was the
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Speaker 3: question of the week that we asked. We'll get into
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Speaker 3: your answers shortly. I'm sure some of you will have
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Speaker 3: something to say about the Sean Combs episodes as well
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Speaker 3: that we released over the weekend as part of our
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Speaker 3: rewind coming up next right after this episode on Sunday
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Speaker 3: and our rewind slot. This week our episode on Ariana
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Speaker 3: Grande and the tragedy that took the lives of twenty
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Speaker 3: two people at her show in Manchester in two thousand seventeen,
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Speaker 3: and then next week on Tuesday, our new episode on
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Speaker 3: Christina Grimmy. This is another tragic tale, the story of
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Speaker 3: a young talent who is gunned down by a deranged psychopath.
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Speaker 3: And the question I want you guys to be thinking
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Speaker 3: about what you're listening to this Christina Grimmy episode is
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Speaker 3: which rockstar assassination affected you the most? I can tell
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Speaker 3: you from me, it was most certainly John Lennon's assassination.
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Speaker 2: I was a little boy.
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Speaker 3: It messed me up and you know, shocked me in
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Speaker 3: a way that I had never been shocked before. Again,
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Speaker 3: I was really young when that happened, as I know
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Speaker 3: most of you were, if you were even alive back then.
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Speaker 3: Blew my mind. But then another one that I found
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Speaker 3: equally shocking in a different way is when I get
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Speaker 3: when I got older and I started doing this podcast
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Speaker 3: and I started researching the death, the attempted assassination, I
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Speaker 3: should say of Bob.
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Speaker 2: Marley that one's mind blowing.
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Speaker 3: And we got a great episode on that if you're
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Speaker 3: interested anyways, six one seven nine oh six six eight
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Speaker 3: with your answers to the question which Rockstar assassination affected
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Speaker 3: right after this with your answers to last week's question
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Speaker 3: the week. All right, it's that time of the week again.
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Speaker 3: I'm in the phone, but it's the one across the hall.
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Speaker 3: I'm hanging on the telephone with you guys at discos.
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Speaker 3: Let's hear from Tracy in the nine to seven zero.
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Speaker 6: Hi, this is Tracy from the nine seven zero. Mayan
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Speaker 6: Mount Rushmore guitarists are way more than four, but because
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Speaker 6: it's Mount Rushmore, they are Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes, Trey
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Speaker 6: Anastasio and and Samantha Fish. All Right, you may or
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Speaker 6: may not agree, but we all get to like what
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Speaker 6: we like, right, okay, Thanks by.
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Speaker 3: All right, Tracy, thank you so much for the call. Yes,
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Speaker 3: we do all get to like what we like. I
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Speaker 3: have never heard of Samantha Fish out to look her up.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Now I get a good recommendation here, which I wasn't.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting. Your tastes sort of tend to lean
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Speaker 3: more toward the jam band side of the fence than
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Speaker 3: mind you. But that doesn't mean anything because your point
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Speaker 3: is a valid one. We all get to like what we.
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Speaker 2: Like, right.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate the call, Tracy. All right, let's check out this
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Speaker 3: one from Melissa in the three one Oh.
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Speaker 7: Okay, it's Melissa from the three one Oh. Again. I've
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Speaker 7: got to tell you about this amazing show that I
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Speaker 7: always remember loving. It was Guns and Roses and Tsol
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Speaker 7: at the Palace in Hollywood, and.
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Speaker 8: The Palace it's like this smallish all the time, very
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Speaker 8: historic venue. And this was in nineteen eighty seven or
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Speaker 8: eighty eight, so they were just starting to get huge and.
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Speaker 9: It was such a rock and show.
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Speaker 7: Anyway, I just thought i'd tell you that all my
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Speaker 7: friends were goths and rockers because I love it all.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for all you too, Pie, Melissa, thanks for the call.
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Speaker 3: Sounds like you're having fun out there. In the three
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Speaker 3: one Oh, I remember Duff McKagan wearing a Tsol shirt
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Speaker 3: and one of the Guns and Roses videos from their
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Speaker 3: first album, and it was a it was a signal
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Speaker 3: that they were into punk and back then, the metal
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Speaker 3: heads in the punk rockers didn't mix, didn't mix together,
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Speaker 3: not in my hometown anyways. So that was that was
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Speaker 3: very interesting. It's interesting to hear that you actually saw
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Speaker 3: Tsol play with Guns and Roses eighty seven. I wonder
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Speaker 3: who opened up that show. I wonder if it was
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Speaker 3: Guns and Roses or I wonder if it was Tsol.
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Speaker 3: Thanks to the call, Melissa, all right, let's check out
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Speaker 3: the six one two.
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Speaker 10: Hey, Jake, it's Chris call from the sixty one too.
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Speaker 10: Just got done listening to the ceb Ray Vaughan episode
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Speaker 10: and thought I'd give a.
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Speaker 9: Call and get my Mount Rushmore guitar players. I was
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Speaker 9: actually at that show at out Front Valley and call
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Speaker 9: from Minnesota, and I was fifteen years old, drinking cors
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Speaker 9: late party ball at Elpi Valley, and everybody thought it
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Speaker 9: was air Clapton's teletypal that crashed it forst So for
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Speaker 9: a little bit we thought air Crafton was dead.
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Speaker 10: Anyway, Mount Rushmore Top four, I'd had a adv King's
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Speaker 10: up there for sure. He's kind of the foundation for
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Speaker 10: everybody else. Jerry Garcia not necessarily the technically best guitar player,
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Speaker 10: but he's got the feel of the sound.
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Speaker 9: Number three would have to be Derek Trusts.
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Speaker 10: He's just still got plenty of time.
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Speaker 9: To go and I think he's already up there on
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Speaker 9: the Mount Rushmore.
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Speaker 10: And then my last was Dwayne Alman from Alman Brothers
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Speaker 10: Van Those four you could tell a kind.
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Speaker 9: Of music I'm into, but for me, those are the
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Speaker 9: Mount Rushmore guitar players.
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Speaker 6: Thanks a lot, keep doing what you do.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, Chris, appreciate the call out there in
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Speaker 3: the six one two. Amazing that you're at that show
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Speaker 3: and you know, the Clopton thing blows my mind. I'd
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Speaker 3: heard before. It's wild to hear it come from somebody
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Speaker 3: who was there.
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Speaker 2: Though.
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Speaker 3: Like your list too, especially the BB King and the
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Speaker 3: Jerry Garcia parts.
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Speaker 8: B B.
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Speaker 5: King.
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Speaker 2: We need an episode.
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Speaker 3: I want to do something on Lucille and how how
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Speaker 3: has guitar got that name and the fire behind it
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Speaker 3: that incident. BB was incredible, one of a kind, incredibly
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Speaker 3: incredibly influential, so influential. I think that his influence is
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Speaker 3: kind of people don't pay him enough. It's gonna sound crazy,
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Speaker 3: but I just feel like people don't pay enough attention
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Speaker 3: to BB King as a guitar player, because he became
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Speaker 3: so much more than that, and he lived forever. But
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Speaker 3: I hear you Man and Jerry as well, incredibly inventive,
20:38
Speaker 3: incredibly inventive guitar player. All right, let's do one more
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Speaker 11: Hi, Jake, This is Teya from New York City from
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Speaker 11: the nine to one seven. I'm catching up on podcast
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Speaker 11: episodes right now as I'm running my Sunday errands, and
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for the call. I love that
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Speaker 3: your podcast friends are are friends and they're all hanging out.
22:25
Speaker 3: I like the way you, I like the way you
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Speaker 3: your Sunday chores and the news hitting you and you're
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Speaker 3: getting all excited, amazing. Thank you, thank you so much.
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Speaker 4: Guys.
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Speaker 3: I want to know what you're doing when you're listening
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Speaker 3: to Disgrace and let us know. Get in touch, like Taya. Here.
22:43
Speaker 3: Taya is doing her chores on Sunday and she's catching up.
22:46
Speaker 3: But we also have our rewinds on Sunday now to
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Speaker 3: make it easy for you to binge, because we all
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Speaker 3: get time on Sunday to just listen to some podcasts.
22:53
Speaker 3: Don't we be like Taya listen to Disgraceland on the Sabbath.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
22:57
Speaker 3: Also, be like the six four six and hit me
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Speaker 3: up with the six one seven, nine oh six, six,
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Speaker 3: six three eight sixty four six says hey, Robert Johnson,
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Speaker 3: Chuck Berry, BB King, Jimmy Hendricks is the goat. Those
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Speaker 3: are the four folks on the six four six?
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Speaker 2: Is mount rushmore?
23:11
Speaker 3: Hard to argue with that list? Talk about inventiveness between
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Speaker 3: Robert Johnson, Chuck Berry, BB King and Jimmy Hendrix. That's uh,
23:18
Speaker 3: that's pretty incredible. Two seven six texts in Hey, Johnny
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Speaker 3: thunder Is, Mick Ronson, Malcolm Young, Rick Agnew and Ivy Rorshack.
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Speaker 3: That's five, man, you broke the rules.
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Speaker 2: I like the Ivy one though, I really do. I'm
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Speaker 2: wanna talk about that more in a minute. Want to
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Speaker 2: give you my list.
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Speaker 3: Seven two four texts Hey, Jake got a chance to
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Speaker 3: catch up on episode Surprise. He didn't put Big Lurch
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Speaker 3: cannibalizing his girlfriend in that list because it's one of
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Speaker 3: the stuck with me after listening to your episodes, and
23:46
Speaker 3: the one I still think about when someone mentions true
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Speaker 3: crime as for my Gone Too Soon Mount Rushmore or
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Speaker 3: Lane Staley, Robert Johnson, Jimmy Hendrix, John Bonham, And that's it.
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Speaker 2: That's the list.
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Speaker 3: Much love to you in yours later days. Did I
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Speaker 3: ask question two different ways? At the end of the
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Speaker 3: Steve Rayvaughan episode, did I ask who's on your Mount
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Speaker 3: Rushmore of guitar players? And in the after party, did
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Speaker 3: I ask about your Mount Rushmore have Gone Too Soon?
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Speaker 2: Artists? I might have.
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Speaker 3: I might have because I got a couple of texts
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Speaker 3: like this, like the one from the seven two to four.
24:19
Speaker 3: If I did that, I apologize. But shit gets crazy
24:21
Speaker 3: around here. I can't keep track of everything. You know
24:24
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's a lot going on. I got
24:26
Speaker 3: a lot going on here. I got two cameras going
24:28
Speaker 3: I got a recording software. It's this.
24:30
Speaker 2: This is all all kinds of stuff.
24:32
Speaker 3: You know.
24:32
Speaker 2: I'm hanging on by a thread, is what I'm saying.
24:34
Speaker 3: My mount roushmore of four rock stars gone too soon
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Speaker 3: from the two one seven. First, I think is obvious
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Speaker 3: Kurt kobein I picture his future would have been like
24:43
Speaker 3: a reverse Dylan, where he would have slowly transitioned into
24:47
Speaker 3: a more folky type of musician. Second, Bradley Knowl, Third
24:51
Speaker 3: shannonhon last me as a pada. Well, hot, damn, that's
24:57
Speaker 3: a that's a hell of a list there, Bradley, No,
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Speaker 3: Shannon hoone me as a pada, and Kirk Kobe can't
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Speaker 3: mess with that? All right, Listen, I don't have a
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Speaker 3: mount rushmore have gone too soon artists. I probably could have.
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Speaker 3: I thought about it, but I wasn't prepared. I do
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Speaker 3: have a mount rushmore of guitar players, and I assure
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Speaker 3: you that none of you are going to like this.
25:20
Speaker 3: No one is going to like anybody's answer here. I
25:24
Speaker 3: can only hope that the answers from you all prompt
25:27
Speaker 3: others to check out guitar players they may not have
25:31
Speaker 3: listened to before, and for that reason. For that reason,
25:36
Speaker 3: poison Ivy Rorshak is on my list of four. Now
25:40
Speaker 3: you might be like, what the fuck, who even is that? Well,
25:42
Speaker 3: it's a guitar player for the Cramps, and the inventiveness
25:46
Speaker 3: not only of her guitar playing, but her production style
25:48
Speaker 3: around guitar concerning the specific type of punk rock they
25:53
Speaker 3: were making at the time and the limitations they had
25:56
Speaker 3: in making it. She's incredibly, incredibly important and incredibly inventive.
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Speaker 3: And I gotta say, I'm listening to a lot of
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Speaker 3: Cramps these days, so she's just.
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Speaker 2: Top of mind. Now.
26:10
Speaker 3: I don't know how you guys approached this list. I
26:12
Speaker 3: could have kept on that thread of going, well, I'm
26:16
Speaker 3: listening to a lot of you know, sonic youth right now,
26:20
Speaker 3: which I am, so I'm gonna Putlee Ronaldo on the
26:23
Speaker 3: list and why not or go even further Glenn Bronca
26:26
Speaker 3: who you know, the Thirst and more. I mean, these
26:28
Speaker 3: guys did incredible things in the advancement of guitar playing
26:32
Speaker 3: in rock and roll. But I'm not gonna do that.
26:34
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna stay with the current. Aside from my
26:37
Speaker 3: listening of Poison Ivy right now in the Cramps, I'm
26:40
Speaker 3: gonna throw it back in the opposite direction of the
26:43
Speaker 3: first guitar player that truly truly possessed me. And I
26:49
Speaker 3: don't use that word flippantly.
26:54
Speaker 2: I have a six.
26:55
Speaker 3: Foot poster of the man right there on my door,
26:59
Speaker 3: and that is miss Angus Young from ac DC. Now,
27:02
Speaker 3: I know Malcolm was the brains, his brother was the
27:05
Speaker 3: brains behind the guitar playing in ac DC. But as
27:09
Speaker 3: a twelve year old obsessed with the hardest rock and roll,
27:15
Speaker 3: I could find the most energetic music I could find
27:18
Speaker 3: to fuel all the testosterone I had coursing through me.
27:23
Speaker 3: Angus Young possessed me. And it wasn't just his mad
27:28
Speaker 3: looks and his schoolboy uniform and the constant ball of energy.
27:32
Speaker 3: It was actually the playing. It was the solo wing
27:36
Speaker 3: was just incredible. And it wasn't like it was technical
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Speaker 3: in any way.
27:39
Speaker 11: I know that.
27:40
Speaker 2: I know the slow down, slowed down you.
27:42
Speaker 3: Who recommended Steve Ie and then took him off your
27:44
Speaker 3: list in the four h six listen. I know Angus Young.
27:47
Speaker 3: I know he was not a technically astute guitar player.
27:52
Speaker 3: I know he's basically just injecting steroids into what Chuck
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Speaker 3: Berry was doing. But that energy and that of pro coach,
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Speaker 3: it did something to me. It grabbed me, and it
28:03
Speaker 3: shook me. It helped me by the throat and I
28:06
Speaker 3: couldn't listen to I didn't care about it. I mean,
28:09
Speaker 3: I cared about Eddie van Haleen. But look, man, you
28:11
Speaker 3: weren't going to convince me that Eddie Eddie van Hallen
28:13
Speaker 3: was better than than Angus Young.
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Speaker 2: You just weren't.
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Speaker 3: And I loved Eddie van Hallen and Eddie van Haleen
28:19
Speaker 3: is number three on my list. So that's poison ivy
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Speaker 3: Angus Young and Eddie van Halen. And I know there's
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Speaker 3: some of you out there who I just lost all
28:31
Speaker 3: kinds of credibility with, but I you know, this is
28:34
Speaker 3: this is today, this is today, this is I'm recording
28:37
Speaker 3: this on May thirteenth, twenty twenty six, and I have
28:39
Speaker 3: different criteria for different selections. The last slot goes to
28:45
Speaker 3: someone said it earlier, the goat, and that is Jimmy Hendrix.
28:49
Speaker 3: Nobody did what Jimmy Hendrix did with the guitar before
28:53
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hendrix. And I know some of you think that
28:55
Speaker 3: are subject that this last episode of Disgrace and STEVEE.
28:58
Speaker 3: Rayvaughan is actually better than Amy Hendricks. I know you
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Speaker 3: prefer his playing to Jimmy Hendricks. But all I can
29:02
Speaker 3: tell you is when I hear Steve Rayvon play. Yes,
29:04
Speaker 3: I am blown away, absolutely, and I watched the clips
29:09
Speaker 3: and I'm just I'm so lucky that I got to
29:12
Speaker 3: live at the same time that this guy was making music.
29:16
Speaker 3: And yeah, I never saw him like some of you did,
29:18
Speaker 3: but I understand how important Steve Rayvon is. At the
29:22
Speaker 3: same time, Stevie Rayvon gets so much of what he
29:25
Speaker 3: did from Jimmy Hendricks, Poison Ivy, not so much, Angus
29:31
Speaker 3: Young indirectly, indirectly, okay, and Eddie van Halen, like Hendricks,
29:38
Speaker 3: took everything to a whole new place, a whole new place.
29:42
Speaker 3: If you want to argue that Eddie Van Halen is
29:44
Speaker 3: better than Jimmy Hendrix, I will at least listen to you.
29:48
Speaker 3: I don't know that i'll agree with you, But when
29:50
Speaker 3: I hear Eddie Van Halen play, I'm like when I
29:52
Speaker 3: hear Stevie Rayvon play, I hear more fucking Martians in
29:57
Speaker 3: his playing than I do any other guitar player. Okay,
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Speaker 3: I guess that's what I'm saying. So that's my incredibly
30:03
Speaker 3: dumb list. It's Poison Ivy, Angus Young, Eddie Van Hallen,
30:06
Speaker 3: and Jimmy Hendrix. You can fight me if you want
30:08
Speaker 3: to call six one seven nine six six six three
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Speaker 3: eight happy to talk to y'all. I just want to
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Speaker 3: read the four h six text here because I alluded
30:15
Speaker 3: to it. Oh yeah, Montana, Mike here, great series. I
30:18
Speaker 3: lean towards thrash metal. So in this order, James Hetfield, Buckethead,
30:22
Speaker 3: Joe Satriani, Steve I four, omit vi. Oh that's five,
30:26
Speaker 3: he's got fives. Yeah, you can have Steve V and
30:29
Speaker 3: Joe Satrianti on the same list. Wasn't Joe Satriani Steve
30:33
Speaker 3: I's guitar teacher?
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Speaker 2: So I think you gotta go with Satrianni in.
30:36
Speaker 3: This one, all right. Anyways, I'll be back right after
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Speaker 3: this with a very important update.
30:41
Speaker 2: Don't go on.
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Speaker 3: All right, So, for those of you who missed out
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Speaker 3: last weeks after Party who worked with us uh and
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Speaker 3: if you're not on Patreon last week, we get into
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Speaker 3: the very important business of determining which classic sitcom theme
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Speaker 3: So I'm going to turn it over to Matt here
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Speaker 3: Subject King Vaughn Raps first serial Killer, Hello Jake, new listener,
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Speaker 3: but big fan transplant from your my favorite Murder episode
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Speaker 3: listening to your back catalog now and I am loving it.
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Speaker 3: I'm a huge punk rock fan. My wife and I
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Speaker 3: had no effects as hot Dog in the Hallway as
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Speaker 3: our wedding song. Not huge into rap, but I wanted
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Speaker 3: to bring this artist to your attention, a Chicago rapper
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Speaker 3: named King Vaughn who allegedly killed six to ten people
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Speaker 3: and insane case of how he killed people and had
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Speaker 3: a billboard top one hundred hit going to number forty.
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Speaker 3: His death led to a retaliatory murder for higher plot
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Speaker 3: funded by a Grammy Award winning artist named Little Dirk,
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Speaker 3: whose trial is currently going on. There have been a
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Speaker 3: few YouTube documentaries. A great one to check out is
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Speaker 3: by Trap Laura Ross. But I'd love your take on
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Speaker 3: this and if I could recommend one song that gives
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Speaker 3: you a peek behind the current to this man's life,
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Speaker 3: I'd recommend Demon by King Vaughn. A huge fan.
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Speaker 2: Love what you do, Rock a rolla.
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Speaker 3: John Sales. Thank you so much for this. You know,
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Speaker 3: someone mentioned this to me years ago and I forgot
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Speaker 3: Paris Hilton and the Bling Ring are happening over in
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Speaker 2: Here's what you're missing.
34:42
Speaker 3: I went back to my youth here, and I try
34:44
Speaker 3: to do this as subjectively as possible, rather than sort
34:47
Speaker 3: of objectively as like a music historian or an academic.
34:50
Speaker 2: And I went back to.
34:52
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty eight, eighty nine when I first heard the
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Speaker 3: self titled debut by Glenn Danzig, the album Danzig, and
35:03
Speaker 3: there's this song on that album called the Hunter and
35:08
Speaker 3: has this lyric they call me the Hunter. That's my name,
35:11
Speaker 3: pretty young thing like you, It's my only game. And
35:15
Speaker 3: the melody here for the song immediately struck me as
35:19
Speaker 3: as a young kid. Now, a young kid, not some
35:22
Speaker 3: dude who's like steeped in forty years of music history,
35:25
Speaker 3: like a fourteen fifteen, sixteen year old. However I was
35:28
Speaker 3: when I first heard it, yeah, and going like, wait
35:31
Speaker 3: a minute, I know this song?
35:33
Speaker 2: What is this song?
35:34
Speaker 3: And I look to the Danzig liner notes and it's
35:37
Speaker 3: written by Glenn Danzig, and I'm like, this is not
35:40
Speaker 3: written by Glenn Danzig.
35:42
Speaker 2: What is this song?
35:44
Speaker 3: And turns out it's how many more times by led Zeppelin,
35:50
Speaker 3: you know.
35:50
Speaker 5: Doom Doom Doom, Doom, Doom Doom Doom do how many moltimes?
35:54
Speaker 3: And then it breaks down, Yeah, exactly, and then Robert
35:57
Speaker 3: Plant goes into that vocal riff. But it's hard to
36:00
Speaker 3: be the haunt, you know, no shit, And Danzig lifted
36:04
Speaker 3: the exact almost the exact same thing. Well, Robin Plant
36:07
Speaker 3: probably lifted it from some old bluesman. Well, hold on,
36:11
Speaker 3: it gets better. So I'm like, oh, damn, they stole
36:16
Speaker 3: this from he stole this from led Zeppelin, and he
36:18
Speaker 3: didn't didn't credit them. What balls? So then, like I
36:24
Speaker 3: don't know, ten years later or whatever, you know, I'm
36:28
Speaker 3: a little more curious, I'm a little more well read.
36:31
Speaker 3: Of course, now, of course, we could talk for days
36:34
Speaker 3: about led Zeppelin stealing music, sure from what people would
36:39
Speaker 3: call obscure blues musicians.
36:42
Speaker 2: Some of them are obscure at all.
36:43
Speaker 3: But that's just sort of the rap, you know what
36:45
Speaker 3: I mean, the Search Engine rap and Stairway to Heaven
36:50
Speaker 3: being it's not a blues musician where they borrow from,
36:52
Speaker 3: but the most famous of these sort of indictments of
36:56
Speaker 3: led Zeppelin. But this one in particular is part heicularly
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Speaker 3: agreeious because led Zeppelin stole that the hunter that riff inside.
37:05
Speaker 3: How many more times they stole those that melody and
37:09
Speaker 3: the riff on the lyrics from an Albert King song?
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Speaker 3: or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven,
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Speaker 3: Do not forget this goes. This isn't just content. It's
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Speaker 3: a community, a community of the obsessed. And no one
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Speaker 3: cares about music, books, records and the crime and crime
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Speaker 3: that ties them all together like you do. And well
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Speaker 3: that's a disgrace, all right. Steve Rayvaughon died back on
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Speaker 3: August twenty seventh, nineteen ninety and this is what America
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Speaker 3: was listening to on that day. According to the Billboard Charts,
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Speaker 3: Number one Vision of Love Mariah Carey last week one,
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Speaker 3: peak position one weeks on charts thirteen, number two Come
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Speaker 3: Back to Me Janet Jackson number last week, give two
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Speaker 3: peak positions two weeks on chart, last nine, number three,
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Speaker 3: If Wishes Came True, Sweet Sensation last week we peak
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Speaker 3: position three, number five weeks on chart, last eleven five,
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Speaker 3: Number four, un Skinny last Plot to Poison last week six,
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Speaker 3: peak position four weeks on chart. Number five, Blaze of Glory,
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Speaker 3: Young Costume.
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Speaker 5: Last week.
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Speaker 3: Quit talking and start mixing.