Latest / The Ben Maller Show / Hour 2 - Plenty of Picks
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meler
- 0:02Speaker 1: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Oh, what is going on? Happy early Tuesday morning to you, huh,
- 0:11Speaker 2: as we roll in for another hour here of Fox
- 0:16Speaker 2: Sports Radio Action. Okay, so the big news in the
- 0:22Speaker 2: NBA is that the thunderbeat the Pacers in Game five.
- 0:25Speaker 2: But I chewed on that pretty good in the first hour.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Chewed on that tasted pretty good. I believe maybe you
- 0:32Speaker 2: spat it out. I'm not sure. Maybe you didn't appreciate
- 0:35Speaker 2: that taste. I thought it tastes pretty good in the
- 0:37Speaker 2: first hour. But I want to shift gears to something else.
- 0:39Speaker 2: I'll go back to the finals a little bit later
- 0:41Speaker 2: in the show. But something else in the NBA caught
- 0:45Speaker 2: my attention, and it's connected to the NBA Finals in
- 0:49Speaker 2: a weird way. So this Desmond Baine trade, Desmond Baine
- 0:55Speaker 2: gets traded from the Grizzlies to the Orlando Magic. And
- 1:00Speaker 2: the Magic they gave up Contavious Caldwell, Pope Cole Anthony,
- 1:06Speaker 2: and they gave up four unprotected first round picks and
- 1:11Speaker 2: one first round pick swap. That's the deal right there. Now,
- 1:16Speaker 2: Desmond Bain is good. He's a good player. He's a
- 1:19Speaker 2: three and D guy, very good three point shooter, but
- 1:24Speaker 2: he isn't a rock star. He's not even an All Star.
- 1:28Speaker 2: So this is quite a haul for a dude that's
- 1:32Speaker 2: not even an All star, really good three point shooter,
- 1:35Speaker 2: but man, we're talking four unprotected picks, a pick swap
- 1:39Speaker 2: a couple of dudes that can play KCP Cole Anthony.
- 1:43Speaker 2: I think that's a lot to give. It's a ton.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Some people have pointed out, like that's more than the
- 1:47Speaker 2: Lakers gave up for Luca, and you could dispute that.
- 1:54Speaker 2: You could say, Anthony Davis still plays at a very
- 1:56Speaker 2: high level, still have some good years left. Who knows
- 1:58Speaker 2: what the picks are going to turn into. So it's
- 2:03Speaker 2: at least I'll say a possibility that Memphis got more
- 2:08Speaker 2: for Desmond Bane.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Than the.
- 2:14Speaker 2: MAVs got for Luca. That's insane. That's insanity right there.
- 2:20Speaker 2: But it's not really a Luca thing. I just look
- 2:23Speaker 2: at the compensation here and I would connect it to
- 2:26Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. It's still it blows my mind that
- 2:29Speaker 2: these teams in the NBA are so willing to give
- 2:34Speaker 2: up so much draft compensation. Now, I realize, I want
- 2:40Speaker 2: you to understand. I realize it does not work the
- 2:43Speaker 2: same way as the NFL draft. Totally understood. I'm not
- 2:48Speaker 2: making it out to be the same exact thing. We know.
- 2:51Speaker 2: The NFL draft is much deeper in talent. You can
- 2:55Speaker 2: find talent and difference makers role players late in the
- 3:00Speaker 2: NFL draft. It happens commonly. You know, if you just
- 3:04Speaker 2: look at the first two rounds of the NFL versus
- 3:07Speaker 2: NBA draft, much more talent pans out, let's say, in
- 3:12Speaker 2: the second round in the NFL draft than it does
- 3:15Speaker 2: in the second round of the NBA draft. Totally understand that.
- 3:18Speaker 2: So there is going to be a difference. But with
- 3:20Speaker 2: that being said, how huge the difference is where the
- 3:26Speaker 2: NFL these teams completely value draft picks. There are times
- 3:32Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, Randy Moss just got traded. Oh
- 3:35Speaker 2: yeah for Randy Moss. What do you get traded for
- 3:37Speaker 2: a fourth round pick? A fourth round pick? What? There
- 3:42Speaker 2: are deals like that all the time, proven veteran like
- 3:46Speaker 2: what they get from I got like a third rounder
- 3:49Speaker 2: and they got some big league jew. It's football is
- 3:54Speaker 2: a big big league jew. Yeah, that's just all they
- 3:56Speaker 2: could get value in those draft picks. That's the way
- 3:59Speaker 2: it goes in the NFL NBA. These teams are just
- 4:03Speaker 2: like first round picks. They're like making it rain with
- 4:06Speaker 2: first round picks. They're just like, yeah, go for it. Yeah,
- 4:09Speaker 2: I had no problem. Four unprotected first round picks and
- 4:14Speaker 2: a first round pick swap for Desmond Bane. Wow, that
- 4:20Speaker 2: is a heavy price tag. And the other thing that
- 4:22Speaker 2: blows my mind before we get to the NBA Finals comparison,
- 4:28Speaker 2: is that these are future picks. Who knows what's going
- 4:33Speaker 2: to happen with these teams that make these trades down
- 4:38Speaker 2: the road. For instance, look at look at the Brooklyn
- 4:43Speaker 2: Nets making the deal for Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant goes
- 4:48Speaker 2: to the Phoenix Suns and Brooklyn gets a bunch of
- 4:51Speaker 2: picks in return. Now look at the Suns. Now, what
- 4:55Speaker 2: are they gonna do. They're gonna move kd again, And
- 4:58Speaker 2: what's gonna happen with the Suns? Gonna lose a lot
- 5:00Speaker 2: more games? They were winning many games with Katie. Imagine
- 5:05Speaker 2: if they moved Booker and completely reset and totally bottom
- 5:09Speaker 2: out all of a sudden. These draft picks are premium picks.
- 5:13Speaker 2: That's what's crazy to me. It's like, yeah, take our
- 5:16Speaker 2: twenty forty seven first round pick. What a we care.
- 5:19Speaker 2: It's like, well, if that turns into a top five pick,
- 5:22Speaker 2: you should care. That's what happened with the Nets in reverse. Remember,
- 5:29Speaker 2: the Nets made the deal to trade for a couple
- 5:33Speaker 2: of Celtics at the time, Paul Pierce and Kevin Durant
- 5:36Speaker 2: famous trade. They traded first round picks, some pick swaps,
- 5:42Speaker 2: and shockingly, old Paul Pierce and old Kevin Garnett played
- 5:47Speaker 2: like old Paul Pierce and old Kevin Gardnet. They didn't
- 5:49Speaker 2: win many games, and all of a sudden those picks
- 5:57Speaker 2: became really valuable. Nets aren't winning many games. James turned
- 6:01Speaker 2: into a third overall pick, which was used for Jalen Brown,
- 6:05Speaker 2: and it turned into a first overall pick, and the
- 6:10Speaker 2: Celtics traded down to number three and still drafted Jason Tatum.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Those picks turned into Tatum and Brown, and the Nets
- 6:19Speaker 2: are like, yeah, let's get Paul Pearson KG. Let's go.
- 6:23Speaker 2: They're like, here's the first rounder, here's another first rounder,
- 6:26Speaker 2: here's a pickswap. Yeah sounds great. The Celtics are like, okay, cool,
- 6:29Speaker 2: we'll reset our whole franchise. With this trade, and so
- 6:34Speaker 2: that's what I think at least has the possibility of happening.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Another good example would be present day. Look at the
- 6:44Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks trading for Damian Lillard. Think about Portland, who
- 6:51Speaker 2: made that deal. I didn't want to let Dame go,
- 6:53Speaker 2: but they had to. Dame was ready to compete for
- 6:56Speaker 2: a championship. The Blazers were resetting. They were going to
- 6:59Speaker 2: be nowhere close to competing for a championship. Now look
- 7:02Speaker 2: where things are. Dame got hurt, jacked up his achilles.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Now we don't know if Jannis is gonna be back.
- 7:09Speaker 2: What if Jannis is gone? Look at that roster, even
- 7:13Speaker 2: with Giannis on it, they're basically the Westbrook Thunder right now.
- 7:18Speaker 2: If Jannis is back this year, surrounded by a below
- 7:22Speaker 2: average supporting cast at best, Giannie is gonna go freaking
- 7:28Speaker 2: ballistic and the Bucks are gonna lose a good amount
- 7:31Speaker 2: of games. It's just a matter of time until the
- 7:34Speaker 2: Bucks deal Yannis. They should do it this offseason. Maybe
- 7:39Speaker 2: they dragged their feet and they do it next off season.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Whenever it happens, the Bucks are resetting. So the point is,
- 7:46Speaker 2: if the Bucks have no Yannis and now they're really
- 7:50Speaker 2: bottoming out and they're really trying to reset. Hey, let's
- 7:53Speaker 2: try to let's try to recoup some of these draft picks.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Let's just move all of our other assets and reset
- 7:59Speaker 2: comple letely. Well, all of a sudden, if they bought
- 8:01Speaker 2: them out, those picks sent to Portland, those become premium picks.
- 8:06Speaker 2: So it's just blows my mind that team after team
- 8:09Speaker 2: after team is still willing to make these deals. I
- 8:12Speaker 2: get it, if you get a true superstar, the top
- 8:15Speaker 2: ten player, fine, Desmond Baine is not close to a
- 8:20Speaker 2: top ten player, and you're giving away these draft picks
- 8:23Speaker 2: like no big deal. And this is where I would
- 8:25Speaker 2: bring it back to the NBA finals, because we tend
- 8:29Speaker 2: to act that only lottery picks pan out in the NBA,
- 8:35Speaker 2: and it's just not true. If you look at these finals,
- 8:38Speaker 2: it's a good example of some quote unquote non premium
- 8:42Speaker 2: picks paying big dividends just for the now. Some of
- 8:48Speaker 2: these players were traded to the Pacers, traded to the
- 8:52Speaker 2: thunder SGA best example, shake Guild just Alexander, Say, shake
- 8:57Speaker 2: guild just Alexander? The league MVP rated by the Clippers
- 9:01Speaker 2: two okase, but he was an eleventh overall pick. You know,
- 9:05Speaker 2: outside the top ten, still a lottery pick, but outside
- 9:08Speaker 2: the top ten. You look at some of these other
- 9:11Speaker 2: guys that Jalen Williams just went for forty points in
- 9:15Speaker 2: Game five. He's a twelfth overall draft pick. Bottom of
- 9:21Speaker 2: the lottery right there, twelfth overall. You think the twelfth
- 9:25Speaker 2: overall pick. Whoever has the twelfth overall pick and this
- 9:28Speaker 2: year's draft is like, oh baby, let's go. This is
- 9:31Speaker 2: a premium pick. They're like, man, this sucks. We have
- 9:34Speaker 2: the twelfth overall pick. Too bad we didn't luck out
- 9:36Speaker 2: and get higher in the lottery with the you know,
- 9:39Speaker 2: with that thing going on, you can find quality in
- 9:43Speaker 2: this area, and we act like you can if you
- 9:47Speaker 2: look at some other guys. Lou Dort, great defensive player,
- 9:51Speaker 2: the Dorcher Chamber. Alex Caruso has made his impact felt
- 9:55Speaker 2: in the in this final series. Both lou Dort and
- 9:58Speaker 2: Alex Caruso are undrafted guys. They weren't even drafted, and
- 10:04Speaker 2: teams are thrown away draft picks like it doesn't matter.
- 10:08Speaker 2: It's just like this is like a rest stop toilet
- 10:11Speaker 2: paper or something like, oh gosh, that's the worst. No, man,
- 10:16Speaker 2: some of these these picks like these non premium picks
- 10:19Speaker 2: can turn into premium players. Pascal Siakam twenty seventh overall pick,
- 10:26Speaker 2: He's made a big impact in the finals, in the
- 10:28Speaker 2: playoffs as a whole. So I just I don't understand
- 10:32Speaker 2: why these teams do it time and time and time again.
- 10:35Speaker 2: The Rudy go Beart trade. You look at some of
- 10:37Speaker 2: these trades, like they sent a bunch of players, four
- 10:42Speaker 2: first round picks for Rudy Gobert. They sent Malik Beasley,
- 10:49Speaker 2: Patrick Beverly, Jared Vanderbilt, the rights to Walker Kessler to
- 10:54Speaker 2: the Jazz Walker Kessler is he can play? And all
- 10:58Speaker 2: these first round Hey, listen, I'll meet you halfway. Maybe
- 11:03Speaker 2: a team like the Timberwolves. They look like they're gonna
- 11:05Speaker 2: be good for years to come. Maybe the twenty twenty
- 11:10Speaker 2: seven first round pick doesn't turn out to be a
- 11:13Speaker 2: premium pick. Maybe the top five protected twenty twenty nine
- 11:16Speaker 2: pick doesn't turn out to be an awesome pick. Right,
- 11:20Speaker 2: I'll meet you halfway. But what if it does? It
- 11:25Speaker 2: has with other teams and other instances, And I look
- 11:29Speaker 2: at Orlando and it's like, yeah, Desmond Bane makes you better,
- 11:32Speaker 2: but is he worth that price tag? Man, it's a
- 11:35Speaker 2: heavy price tag. It's like if if I went out
- 11:40Speaker 2: and I bought I always use my car as an example.
- 11:44Speaker 2: I have a Nissan Altima, love my Nissan Ultima. If
- 11:47Speaker 2: I went out and bought a new Nissan Ultima for
- 11:51Speaker 2: seventy five thousand dollars, what would you guys say to me?
- 11:56Speaker 2: You'd be like, what are you doing? Why would you do?
- 12:01Speaker 2: It's too much. They're not saying the car sucks. They're
- 12:06Speaker 2: not saying, oh, why would you be caught dead in
- 12:10Speaker 2: a Nissan Ultimate. They're just saying it's not worth that much,
- 12:15Speaker 2: which is accurate. That's how I feel about the Desmond
- 12:18Speaker 2: Baiden trade. I'm not telling you Desmond Bain can't play.
- 12:22Speaker 2: He can play. He's a very good three point shooter.
- 12:25Speaker 2: I thought he gave the Grizzly some juice. He might
- 12:27Speaker 2: do the same for Orlando. But the price tag is like, whoa, Really,
- 12:34Speaker 2: that's a pretty heavy price tag for a non all star.
- 12:40Speaker 2: That's like mckel Bridges. That's what the Knicks when they
- 12:44Speaker 2: dealt for mickel Bridges, they dealt players and five future
- 12:49Speaker 2: first round picks, including four unprotected. There's a pick swap
- 12:54Speaker 2: in there. There's a future second round pick swap in there.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Like again, mckel Bridges can play. It's a good player,
- 13:00Speaker 2: but man, that's a lot. And I think there are
- 13:03Speaker 2: two ways to look at the Thunder and the Pacers,
- 13:05Speaker 2: which in my mind ties into this Desmond Bane trade.
- 13:08Speaker 2: We're just looking at trades in general. You could look
- 13:12Speaker 2: at the Pacers and the Thunder and say, well, hey,
- 13:16Speaker 2: the Thunder they traded for Shay Gilgess, Alexander, they traded
- 13:20Speaker 2: for Alex Caruso, they traded for Isaiah Hartenstein, so they've
- 13:26Speaker 2: they've made trades that have involved draft picks. But I
- 13:31Speaker 2: would counter that with, well, yeah, but the Thunder we're
- 13:34Speaker 2: trading for sa Gilgis, Alexander and a bunch of draft picks.
- 13:39Speaker 2: They're the ones getting the draft picks, not giving the
- 13:43Speaker 2: draft picks. There's a huge difference right there. That was
- 13:46Speaker 2: the Paul George deal. Okay, see you got like five
- 13:49Speaker 2: first rounders and Shay. That's insanity, right, So it's not
- 13:54Speaker 2: just that you traded for a guy. It might be
- 13:57Speaker 2: that you got a bunch of picks along with that guy,
- 14:00Speaker 2: just like Okase did. If you look at the Pacers, yeah,
- 14:04Speaker 2: they've made a couple of trades with impact players Tyres Alliburton,
- 14:09Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam, TJ McConnell. They've traded for these guys. They
- 14:14Speaker 2: traded for Obie toppin right, So these guys get minutes,
- 14:18Speaker 2: they make a big IMPACT's a big reason why this
- 14:20Speaker 2: team is in the NBA Finals. So you could look
- 14:24Speaker 2: at it from that perspective, but I look at it
- 14:26Speaker 2: as man. When you just start looking at this, Tyres
- 14:30Speaker 2: Aaliburton twelfth overall pick, Andrew Nemhard gets minutes for the
- 14:35Speaker 2: Pacers thirty first overall pick. He's a second rounder again.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Siakam twenty seventh overall pick. These guys make an impact,
- 14:45Speaker 2: and you're just giving draft picks away like they don't
- 14:47Speaker 2: matter at all. Granted, it's hard to find an impact
- 14:50Speaker 2: payer player with the twenty seventh overall pick. It's not easy,
- 14:54Speaker 2: but it can happen. And I don't know why teams
- 14:57Speaker 2: give away these picks is if it never happens. It's
- 15:00Speaker 2: just odd to me. I think the price tag is
- 15:02Speaker 2: too high in a lot of these moves that aren't
- 15:05Speaker 2: even involving all stars. Heck, it's one thing, if you
- 15:10Speaker 2: get a stud, you get a star player. You don't
- 15:12Speaker 2: even have an All Star and you're moving all of that. Okay,
- 15:17Speaker 2: all right, and you can chalk it up to these
- 15:20Speaker 2: are gonna be low first round picks. Well, guess what.
- 15:22Speaker 2: Sometimes low first round picks turn into players that get
- 15:26Speaker 2: minutes start like make impacts. So I just think the
- 15:30Speaker 2: price tag a little bit too heavy. That's my two cents.
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- 16:26Speaker 2: dot com, you know, Lorraina. I don't know why it
- 16:29Speaker 2: reminds me. I just I got to link up with Coop.
- 16:33Speaker 2: He was out here in Vegas for the weekend playing
- 16:37Speaker 2: in poker tournaments, and so we got to hang out
- 16:39Speaker 2: one night, and you know what he was wearing. I'm
- 16:42Speaker 2: so jealous.
- 16:42Speaker 4: You guys got to hang out together and.
- 16:44Speaker 5: He was probably wearing his poker T shirt that has
- 16:47Speaker 5: the cards.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Well, that would be a better choice than what he rocked?
- 16:53Speaker 6: Did he wear?
- 16:55Speaker 2: Who went with his tool T shirt? I was just like,
- 17:00Speaker 2: ok Immediately, I'm like, okay, all right. He played it off.
- 17:04Speaker 2: He's like, I didn't even know. I didn't even know
- 17:06Speaker 2: it's it just happened. I'm like, yeah, right, you woke up,
- 17:09Speaker 2: you ironed it. You're like, yeah, this is for no,
- 17:12Speaker 2: this is happening today.
- 17:14Speaker 4: You knew it was him too, didn't even iron it.
- 17:18Speaker 2: No, But it's good to see Coop. He's gonna be
- 17:20Speaker 2: back out here pretty soon more poker poker tournaments, that's right. Yeah,
- 17:25Speaker 2: he's tell me about Omaha. You know, are you a
- 17:28Speaker 2: card player at all? Lorena?
- 17:31Speaker 3: No?
- 17:31Speaker 6: If I ever do gamble in Vegas, I usually play Craps.
- 17:35Speaker 2: I do too. That's my casino game of choice.
- 17:37Speaker 6: I like that one.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Love playing craps. Although I do hate Lorena in gambling.
- 17:42Speaker 2: I don't think I hate anything more than this is
- 17:48Speaker 2: when it's craps and on the first roll and you're
- 17:51Speaker 2: on the past line, Oh my gosh, I hate that.
- 17:55Speaker 2: But the game overall is tremendous. Love the game overall. Yeah,
- 17:59Speaker 2: but you tell me about Omaha. I think I would
- 18:02Speaker 2: like Omaha quite a bit. I don't know that I've
- 18:05Speaker 2: ever played it even. You know, like home games, you
- 18:08Speaker 2: get four cards in your hand instead of the two
- 18:10Speaker 2: cards that you would get in Texas hold them and
- 18:13Speaker 2: so it swings things a lot. You have to use
- 18:16Speaker 2: two of the four cards in your hand. I think
- 18:19Speaker 2: I would like that game. I might.
- 18:22Speaker 4: It's a lot of action at a lot of fun.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Yeah, you do that a lot, like the cash games
- 18:26Speaker 2: in Omaha coop. Yeah.
- 18:28Speaker 7: Well, so I was gonna ask, like, well, the last
- 18:30Speaker 7: time that you went to a cash game or the
- 18:32Speaker 7: cash games that you've been to, is it always like
- 18:34Speaker 7: you know every single person there it's a group of friends,
- 18:37Speaker 7: or have you gone to like a cash game where
- 18:41Speaker 7: it's you know, a whole thing, like a you know,
- 18:45Speaker 7: weekly monthly thing where there's other players that you don't know.
- 18:48Speaker 2: And well, I've like the cash games are typically friends
- 18:53Speaker 2: you get together. It's just all your friends you play cards.
- 18:56Speaker 2: But I've played a handful of times in casinos where
- 18:59Speaker 2: it's just you know, it's it's your standard cash game.
- 19:02Speaker 2: It's a it's hold him no limit or whatever. You
- 19:05Speaker 2: sit down at the whatever the blinds are at that
- 19:08Speaker 2: type of table, you know. So I've done that, but
- 19:10Speaker 2: everybody thinks it's the World Series of Poker, and it's like, guys,
- 19:13Speaker 2: it's the one too no limit table, Like, let's tone
- 19:16Speaker 2: it down. But yeah, some people don't. They don't want
- 19:19Speaker 2: to relax, you know. Loreena Coop got me all fired up.
- 19:23Speaker 2: You know, He's like, yeah, I might play a cash
- 19:25Speaker 2: game tomorrow. I'm like, well, dude, hit me up, you know,
- 19:28Speaker 2: let me know. I might play along with you before
- 19:31Speaker 2: hit Yeah?
- 19:31Speaker 1: Did he?
- 19:32Speaker 2: I texted him, I'm like, so, Coop, what's up man?
- 19:35Speaker 2: You playing? He's like nah, nah, I'm like all right,
- 19:41Speaker 2: wasn't excited? Get did you get any sleep whatsoever? In
- 19:45Speaker 2: anticipation waiting for cash games with Coop. Coop's just like God,
- 19:50Speaker 2: next time. Maybe next time?
- 19:51Speaker 4: No, Coop, Look I had already lost plenty that weekend.
- 19:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all good, you'll get it back.
- 19:58Speaker 6: I'm wondering why you were in a mood.
- 20:01Speaker 4: Yesterday.
- 20:04Speaker 2: That Okay, I'm gonna get to the uh the team
- 20:07Speaker 2: that expects to win a Super Bowl within the next
- 20:10Speaker 2: three years momentarily, but first though, not the Cowboys. No,
- 20:13Speaker 2: it's not the Cowboys. But that's all I can give
- 20:16Speaker 2: you right now. Everything else sealed until we talk to
- 20:22Speaker 2: E Dog. Talk to Dog and will regroup and go
- 20:25Speaker 2: back to the Super Bowl. E Dog. You're on Fox
- 20:27Speaker 2: Sports Radio. What's going on?
- 20:29Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna you mentioned about MTV the videos.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Yeah, they have it on.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Channel Optimum, believe it or not.
- 20:40Speaker 2: So what cable package do you have because one eighty
- 20:44Speaker 2: six for you could be something totally different Optimum optimum Okay,
- 20:50Speaker 2: So they play videos and Optimum Yeah, videos, okay, very nicely.
- 20:57Speaker 2: I'll have to check that.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Okay. Also, then Adam Chandler in the movie Happy Gilmore.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Yeah, why does he wear a Boston Bruins jersey?
- 21:10Speaker 2: Do you know why does he wear it?
- 21:13Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know. Why is he a Boston bruder fan.
- 21:17Speaker 2: Well, in the original one, Coop would probably know better
- 21:20Speaker 2: than me. But in the original one he was like
- 21:22Speaker 2: a failed hockey player like that was his dream was
- 21:25Speaker 2: to play in the lad That.
- 21:28Speaker 3: Was a great movie. Also, I got a question for
- 21:30Speaker 3: you guys. Okay, uh huh, I have I watched ten
- 21:35Speaker 3: of my hats today. I'm gonna put you and Lorraine
- 21:39Speaker 3: on the spot and ask you, guys, what what what
- 21:42Speaker 3: hats do I have that you guess?
- 21:45Speaker 2: Wow? Well, I gotta ask Coop. Where is he calling from? Coop?
- 21:50Speaker 2: Where is he dog from New York, New York? Okay,
- 21:54Speaker 2: your ten hats? All right, I'm only going to guess three. Well,
- 21:58Speaker 2: guess three. I'll go with.
- 22:02Speaker 3: You.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Gotta have your standard Yankee hat in there?
- 22:04Speaker 3: Uh? One or two? Yes?
- 22:09Speaker 2: I don't know. You have nine hundred? Yeah? You got
- 22:14Speaker 2: to Okay, Lorena, you're up next. This is the uh
- 22:17Speaker 2: the second hour. These stealing Marcel's thunder right here. This
- 22:22Speaker 2: is the the twist of the food picks. It's hat picks.
- 22:26Speaker 6: I'm gonna say you have a fedora that means.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I about a kangle hat? You have like
- 22:41Speaker 2: the Bruce Arians old school kangle hat. A Cagle's hat.
- 22:44Speaker 3: No, I have sports teams.
- 22:47Speaker 2: All sports teams. Okay, maybe maybe a little Denver Broncos
- 22:52Speaker 2: action for Coop out There No no Savannah bananas as.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Far as you get this one your favorite team?
- 23:01Speaker 2: What the Dolphins? You're not rocking a Dolphins hat? Are you?
- 23:04Speaker 3: Yes? I am.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Get out of here. Very nice e dog. You know
- 23:09Speaker 2: they're gonna win six or seven games this year. But
- 23:11Speaker 2: you got you got the clean hat going on, you know?
- 23:15Speaker 3: Okay? Awesome. I want to tell you this. I was
- 23:19Speaker 3: when I used to play basketball and far As Hill.
- 23:23Speaker 3: There was a guy named Julio. He jumped on the
- 23:26Speaker 3: other guy's back and mean, I said, Mike, and I said,
- 23:28Speaker 3: you might goes me and Julio. You know what I'm saying. Also,
- 23:33Speaker 3: I just want to share about this, I believe it
- 23:35Speaker 3: or not. I used to be a male dancer.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Uh did you wear any of your
- 23:41Speaker 2: your hats? Are they from that era of your life?
- 23:43Speaker 7: There?
- 23:44Speaker 2: You dog?
- 23:45Speaker 3: No? But I did wear a LTTS Vegas sure. And
- 23:49Speaker 3: if you guess what song they played to the to
- 23:51Speaker 3: the for me dancing, you win a price.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Oh man, that's something I probably don't want to know.
- 23:57Speaker 2: That's something you you dance to. Voodoo from God Smack,
- 24:07Speaker 2: that's what you dance in a very sublective manner.
- 24:11Speaker 3: How about Bad to the Bone, No on that.
- 24:18Speaker 2: No, we gotta let you go, you dog that. I
- 24:20Speaker 2: don't think we can top that going forward. Man, appreciate
- 24:22Speaker 2: your time here this morning. There is e dog bad
- 24:26Speaker 2: to the Bone double on Tandra.
- 24:29Speaker 5: Obviously, I was thinking maybe that I'm too sexy song,
- 24:33Speaker 5: I'm too sexy for my shirt.
- 24:35Speaker 2: I think that I hear you, but you can't. I
- 24:39Speaker 2: know it's a male dance, but you can't even do
- 24:42Speaker 2: if you're trying to do like a sexy that, you
- 24:45Speaker 2: can't do it to that song, right, like the even
- 24:49Speaker 2: though the sexiest girl on earth couldn't do a sexy
- 24:52Speaker 2: dance to that song.
- 24:52Speaker 4: No, it's the most unsexy song, right.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Yeah, someone said that like Voodoo that popped in my head.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Voodoo from Godsmack was like a stripping anthem for a
- 25:05Speaker 2: little while, and I'm like, wow, really, no, kid, that
- 25:09Speaker 2: that certainly set like a mysterious mood if you will, right,
- 25:15Speaker 2: I can see that's.
- 25:18Speaker 4: What's another listening to it now, I have to go
- 25:20Speaker 4: and look at it.
- 25:20Speaker 2: You don't know. You don't know that song, right, No,
- 25:22Speaker 2: I do not. Oh yeah that's a great song. Coop.
- 25:25Speaker 2: You like that song? You fan of that?
- 25:27Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 25:28Speaker 2: Yeah, very good song. Well look at us common ground.
- 25:32Speaker 2: We've got rage and we've got voodoo from Godsmack and
- 25:36Speaker 2: a little bit of metal here and there.
- 25:38Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a lot more common ground, we do.
- 25:40Speaker 2: We do?
- 25:41Speaker 4: You just you're just like diluted about tools.
- 25:45Speaker 2: So it's yeah, I know that's a sour of subject. Okay.
- 25:50Speaker 2: So uh, the team that expects to win a Super
- 25:53Speaker 2: Bowl within the next three years, that would be the
- 26:00Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. That's right. The Minnesota Vikings think that
- 26:04Speaker 2: they are super Bowl bounding. So yeah, thank you, Lorraina.
- 26:08Speaker 2: This is according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. He had this
- 26:12Speaker 2: report on SportsCenter and he said the following as was
- 26:17Speaker 2: told to me, The Vikings feel like JJ McCarthy in
- 26:21Speaker 2: day nine of these workouts was a lot stronger than
- 26:24Speaker 2: day one. Okay, coming off that knee issue. They knew
- 26:31Speaker 2: he could start a little slowly. They like the way
- 26:33Speaker 2: he's throwing the ball. They feel very comfortable with where
- 26:37Speaker 2: he's at going into training camp. They didn't sign Rogers
- 26:41Speaker 2: and went with McCarthy because they believe in their three
- 26:44Speaker 2: year plan a young quarterback they like on a rookie
- 26:48Speaker 2: scale so they can be aggressive on the roster. They
- 26:51Speaker 2: believe they can win a super Bowl in the next
- 26:55Speaker 2: three years. Woo baby, that is I get it. I
- 27:00Speaker 2: totally understand it. And time will tell maybe they'll be right.
- 27:07Speaker 2: It's a big time gamble. And I'm fascinated by the
- 27:10Speaker 2: Vikings this year because of the decision they made, in
- 27:13Speaker 2: the decisions they could have made. They could have reupt
- 27:17Speaker 2: with Sam Donald right, could have kept him around. What
- 27:23Speaker 2: is that the Vikings fight song? Yes, it is wow man,
- 27:31Speaker 2: they got to revamp that thing. That's uh. That leaves
- 27:34Speaker 2: a lot to be desired right there. But they could
- 27:37Speaker 2: have gone with Sam Donald. They could have stuck with him.
- 27:41Speaker 2: They could have gone with Aaron Rodgers and gone the
- 27:45Speaker 2: veteran route with a great supporting cast. They chose to
- 27:48Speaker 2: go with JJ McCarthy, who's a first year starter. And listen,
- 27:53Speaker 2: I I understand why they're doing this. They explained it
- 27:56Speaker 2: right there. This rookie deal, you can splurge on the
- 28:02Speaker 2: rest of the roster and go for it. And if
- 28:06Speaker 2: you look at Rogers at this stage of his career.
- 28:12Speaker 2: I know you have to think, what could life be
- 28:14Speaker 2: like with that supporting cast and Rogers. That's an interesting thought.
- 28:19Speaker 2: I'll tell you this with JJ McCarthy, though, I think
- 28:23Speaker 2: the roster, his supporting cast is the gift and the
- 28:26Speaker 2: curse because it's a great supporting cast. Make no mistake
- 28:30Speaker 2: about it. Sam Darnold played very well all things considered.
- 28:34Speaker 2: He fizzled out the last two games when it mattered most,
- 28:37Speaker 2: but he threw thirty five touchdown passes. That's a team
- 28:40Speaker 2: that went fourteen and three with Sam Darnold as their quarterback.
- 28:46Speaker 2: That's a really, really good supporting cast. But by far,
- 28:51Speaker 2: and this is where the curse comes in. JJ McCarthy
- 28:56Speaker 2: is going to be facing so much pressure to hit
- 28:58Speaker 2: the ground running as a first year starter. Ask yourself this,
- 29:05Speaker 2: Has any quarterback been expected to produce and to win
- 29:11Speaker 2: immediately as much as JJ McCarthy will be expected to
- 29:16Speaker 2: That's a legitimate question. Has anybody been expected to do
- 29:19Speaker 2: those things to the same degree that JJ McCarthy will.
- 29:24Speaker 2: I don't know that there has been. If you have
- 29:27Speaker 2: a couple of names off the top of your head,
- 29:28Speaker 2: I'd love to hear it. And there have been some
- 29:30Speaker 2: players that are certainly scrutinized. Caleb Williams is a good example.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Bears quarterback last year, number one overall pick. He was
- 29:42Speaker 2: a very polarizing player in college. Everybody just had an
- 29:45Speaker 2: opinion on Caleb Williams. You know, it was a lot
- 29:49Speaker 2: of it was critical. I'll look at him crying with
- 29:51Speaker 2: his mom in the stands, what's up with this guy?
- 29:53Speaker 2: And hey, he paints his fingernails. This guy. A lot
- 29:56Speaker 2: of people had some very critical things to say about
- 29:59Speaker 2: Caleb williy And then there were other people that pushed
- 30:02Speaker 2: back on the Caleb Williams critics. But it seemed like
- 30:05Speaker 2: everybody had an opinion on the guy. But he wasn't
- 30:08Speaker 2: expected to hit the ground running. The Bears weren't expected
- 30:11Speaker 2: to win double digit games, be a playoff team, a
- 30:16Speaker 2: challenge for a Super Bowl within the first three years.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Those weren't expectations for Caleb Williams. A lot of it
- 30:22Speaker 2: was because the supporting cast not nearly as good. But
- 30:26Speaker 2: I'd love to hear a quarterback that you think had
- 30:30Speaker 2: higher expectations was expected to do more immediately. That's that's
- 30:38Speaker 2: real pressure. And so while the supporting cast takes a
- 30:43Speaker 2: lot of pressure off of him because it's so good.
- 30:46Speaker 2: It's a lot to work with. You can throw to JJ,
- 30:49Speaker 2: you could throw to JJ Jefferson, you can hand the
- 30:53Speaker 2: ball off to Aaron Jones, like you've got a really
- 30:55Speaker 2: good supporting cast. But with that comes these raise the
- 31:00Speaker 2: expectations as a first year starter. No one's facing even
- 31:05Speaker 2: close to that in the league this year. Think about
- 31:08Speaker 2: the number one overall pick, cam Ward, the expectations Justin Jefferson.
- 31:13Speaker 2: I said JJ Jefferson, No, JJ, Justin Jefferson. Maybe JJ
- 31:19Speaker 2: McCarthy was on my brain. But you could throw it
- 31:21Speaker 2: to Justin Jefferson, you can hand it off Aaron Jones.
- 31:24Speaker 2: You got a good offensive line, you got TJ. Hockinson,
- 31:27Speaker 2: Jordan Addison, you got a lot around you. If you
- 31:30Speaker 2: look at cam Ward, cam Ward is the number one
- 31:33Speaker 2: overall pick. There are no expectations for this guy in
- 31:38Speaker 2: terms of you better win double digit games, you better
- 31:42Speaker 2: produce at a high level. We're used to thirty five
- 31:45Speaker 2: touchdown passes. That's the benchmark. That's what Sam Darnold did
- 31:48Speaker 2: last season. So we're expecting in the neighborhood of somewhere
- 31:53Speaker 2: in that vicinity those expectations don't exist for the number
- 31:57Speaker 2: one overall pick. They exist for ja J McCarthy. That's
- 32:01Speaker 2: a lot to deal with. I'm fascinated by the Vikings,
- 32:05Speaker 2: I really. I can see them having a good season.
- 32:09Speaker 2: I can see them really struggling because it's a lot
- 32:13Speaker 2: of it is about JJ McCarthy. How good is he
- 32:15Speaker 2: going to be as a first year starter with huge expectations.
- 32:20Speaker 2: It's one thing to just be a first year starter,
- 32:24Speaker 2: but to have these goliath expectations individually and team wise,
- 32:31Speaker 2: he'd better be the real deal or it could go
- 32:34Speaker 2: south pretty quickly. I don't think I'm more fascinated by
- 32:38Speaker 2: a team in the NFL than the Minnesota Vikings, just
- 32:41Speaker 2: based on the boom or bust or somewhere in between,
- 32:46Speaker 2: you know, the potential that they have this year. They
- 32:50Speaker 2: really have boom or bust potential. But make no mistake,
- 32:54Speaker 2: He's going to be under the microscope immediately, and no
- 32:59Speaker 2: other quarterback is going to be under the microscope to
- 33:02Speaker 2: even close to the same degree. I think that's what
- 33:05Speaker 2: makes it really interesting right there. All right, feel free
- 33:07Speaker 2: to check in. Phone line is open for you also
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- 33:16Speaker 2: me feel like tweeting up a storm. Go ahead and
- 33:20Speaker 2: do that. Come it up next. This was a pretty
- 33:23Speaker 2: interesting defense of someone who is often picked apart. I'm
- 33:29Speaker 2: Brian Nohen for Big Ben Malor. Keep it locked right
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- 33:44Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian Noan for Big
- 33:47Speaker 2: Ben Malor. Can you picture this as like a stripping anthem? Lorena?
- 33:55Speaker 2: What do you think about?
- 33:56Speaker 3: This?
- 33:56Speaker 2: Definitely sets a mood, does it not? Well, it's funny.
- 33:59Speaker 5: I haven't heard this song in so long and now
- 34:01Speaker 5: I'm like imagining it. Yeah, a little dark, little sultry. Yeah,
- 34:06Speaker 5: it's got a nice little bump bump bomb, so like,
- 34:09Speaker 5: you know, you can move the assets with that.
- 34:13Speaker 4: That's great.
- 34:16Speaker 5: Yeah, she could get like down into the ooh, yeah,
- 34:21Speaker 5: that's good.
- 34:22Speaker 2: A lot of potential for the bum bum bum as
- 34:25Speaker 2: you say, a lot of potential right there. I yeah, hopefully. Uh.
- 34:32Speaker 2: I'm glad that e Doc didn't dance to this, you know,
- 34:35Speaker 2: so I don't have to have.
- 34:36Speaker 6: That would give a different vision in our Yeah, I
- 34:38Speaker 6: don't want.
- 34:38Speaker 2: That vision going on. Do not want that going on?
- 34:41Speaker 2: Right there. I'm gonna get to some funny audio here
- 34:45Speaker 2: in just a couple of minutes. But leading up to
- 34:48Speaker 2: Game five of the NBA Finals on Monday night, it's
- 34:51Speaker 2: game OKC one. They have a three to two lead
- 34:54Speaker 2: on the Pacers. Leading up to that game, Pacers head
- 34:59Speaker 2: coach Rick Carliile was oddly rushing to the defense of
- 35:05Speaker 2: official Scott Foster. So there are a lot of Pacer
- 35:11Speaker 2: fans that were incredibly upset about the officiating in Game four.
- 35:16Speaker 2: So this is not the game on Monday night. This
- 35:18Speaker 2: was the game before the game on Monday night, right,
- 35:22Speaker 2: So you go back to Friday, and that was the
- 35:26Speaker 2: game where the Pacers had a ten point lead in
- 35:29Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and it slipped through their fingers. And
- 35:33Speaker 2: the biggest controversy from that game. SGA drove the ball
- 35:40Speaker 2: on Nie Smith, definitely pushed off and then traveled no
- 35:46Speaker 2: call on either, and he hit a bucket. I believe
- 35:49Speaker 2: that was to take the lead, and that was getting
- 35:52Speaker 2: down there like SGA hit a three the possession before
- 35:55Speaker 2: and then he had the push off basket to give
- 35:59Speaker 2: the Okay, see lead, and they were only about two
- 36:01Speaker 2: minutes left. Some are close to the two minute mark
- 36:05Speaker 2: when SGA hit that go ahead push off bucket. And
- 36:08Speaker 2: so you know how it goes with fans. Oh, we
- 36:10Speaker 2: got screwed the officials. They hosed us. But here's Rick
- 36:14Speaker 2: Carlyle before Game five talking about the officiating in Game
- 36:21Speaker 2: four and all the heat that was directed at Scott Foster.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Scott Foster is not exactly popular. He's got a reputation
- 36:31Speaker 2: for a series that one team trails in all of
- 36:35Speaker 2: a sudden that team wins and either is even or
- 36:40Speaker 2: no longer trailing, right like, he has that type of reputation.
- 36:43Speaker 2: This is what Rick Carlyle said. He said, I think
- 36:46Speaker 2: it's awful with some of the things I've seen about
- 36:49Speaker 2: the officiating, with Scott Foster in particular. I've known Scott
- 36:55Speaker 2: Foster for thirty years. He's a great official. He's done
- 36:58Speaker 2: a great job in these playoffs. We've had him a
- 37:02Speaker 2: lot of times. And the ridiculous scrutiny that's being thrown
- 37:06Speaker 2: out there is terrible. It's unfair and unjust. It's like, wow,
- 37:14Speaker 2: whoa Okay, I just wasn't expecting that. Now you could
- 37:19Speaker 2: think Rick Carlyle is going, you know, like Phil Jackson's
- 37:23Speaker 2: zen Master mode, and he's trying to you know, like
- 37:28Speaker 2: buddy buddy the officials, and that's his angle to try
- 37:31Speaker 2: to get the calls going forward. Maybe or maybe it's
- 37:36Speaker 2: just genuinely how he feels. It's just odd that he
- 37:41Speaker 2: he was that strong with his defense of Scott Foster.
- 37:46Speaker 2: And I've said for a long time, listen, it's been
- 37:50Speaker 2: more unpopular because it's just trendy. You know how it's
- 37:54Speaker 2: trendy to boo Roger Goodell at the NFL Draft. You know,
- 37:58Speaker 2: the commissioner comes on stage to announce a pigs boom
- 38:01Speaker 2: boo boo. You know, it should just be like sheep,
- 38:05Speaker 2: it should be going bah. It's more like that because
- 38:08Speaker 2: they're just following the trend. That's all it is. But
- 38:11Speaker 2: it's very trendy to just bash Scott Foster. He's the
- 38:18Speaker 2: worst freakin guy. Has he ever blown a call?
- 38:21Speaker 3: Sure?
- 38:23Speaker 2: Has he ever missed something? Has he been a little
- 38:25Speaker 2: bit short with players?
- 38:26Speaker 3: Like?
- 38:26Speaker 2: Yeah, he has shortcomings, no doubt. I'm not telling you
- 38:30Speaker 2: he's perfect. I've argued for years he's not nearly as
- 38:36Speaker 2: bad as most NBA fans make him out to be.
- 38:40Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he's awesome, doesn't mean he's perfect. He's just better.
- 38:44Speaker 2: If you just went by what's commonly said about Scott Foster,
- 38:49Speaker 2: you would think he is the worst of all time.
- 38:51Speaker 2: He's just not. Like. He's consistently grated as one of
- 38:55Speaker 2: the top NBA officials. That's why he keeps working these
- 38:58Speaker 2: finals games. He's worked twenty five Championship Series games. He
- 39:04Speaker 2: works a game at least every year, so he must
- 39:08Speaker 2: be doing something right. But with all that being said,
- 39:11Speaker 2: it's kind of odd that Rick Carlisle was that strong
- 39:14Speaker 2: with his defense. Okay, the funny audio, we're up against it,
- 39:16Speaker 2: but this was Darius Slayton talking about Jamis Winston during
- 39:22Speaker 2: mini camp. Pretty funny. Check this out, Giants wide Receiver.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Good stuff. It's so hard to describe.
- 39:27Speaker 8: It's just like how I'm talking right now. He'll be
- 39:29Speaker 8: talking just like this, and it's just the random thoughts
- 39:33Speaker 8: that come to his head and they just come out
- 39:35Speaker 8: and it's like we were talking about, you know, a slam.
- 39:39Speaker 8: How did we get to Kentucky Fried Chicken? Just hard
- 39:44Speaker 8: lefts Like I can't think of an exact example, but
- 39:45Speaker 8: like that's how Best Hockey described It's just like random
- 39:48Speaker 8: hard left, but then he comes right back on topics.
- 39:50Speaker 8: It's like, am I tripreneur? Are you trippering?
- 39:52Speaker 2: I love that audio?
- 39:53Speaker 1: All right?
- 39:54Speaker 2: Coming up next week. Keep receipts here on FSR, and
- 39:58Speaker 2: a couple of seats are pretty interesting