Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Who is Going to Be Left Out? and How Should the Season Change?
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- 0:02We are all back home and ready to
- 0:04do our show.
- 0:05Hope you're ready to hang with us tonight.
- 0:07Let's go.
- 0:41What is going on, everybody?
- 0:42Welcome to Sunday, Sunday,
- 0:45Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
- 0:48I really need to label those buttons
- 0:49better so that I know which ones to
- 0:51hit when.
- 0:53I was already starting to jam to your
- 0:54lunch one.
- 0:56Yeah,
- 0:57I've got to finish the one for tonight.
- 0:59It's just not where I want it yet,
- 1:00but we'll have it soon.
- 1:05And I'll make a new opening and all
- 1:06that kind of stuff, but...
- 1:09I'm like in that spot where I have
- 1:11like a thousand things on my to-do list.
- 1:14And finally, like late last week,
- 1:16I'm like,
- 1:16I just have to pick one and check
- 1:19it off.
- 1:19And then another one and check it off.
- 1:22Because looking at the mass of it is
- 1:25just too much right now.
- 1:29Yeah.
- 1:30After I got my heart fixed,
- 1:31I'm just like,
- 1:33I want to get everything done.
- 1:36You know, like, I feel good.
- 1:38I want to just go, go, go,
- 1:39do everything.
- 1:41And so the list just got really big.
- 1:43And now I'm like in the middle of
- 1:44it all.
- 1:48Makes sense.
- 1:50Anyway,
- 1:52Fergie coming in early with the question
- 1:54of the week.
- 1:55For me,
- 1:57if you could cover any training camp
- 1:59before the games,
- 2:00who would it be and why the Chicago
- 2:02Bears?
- 2:05That's a no-brainer.
- 2:07The Bears are my love.
- 2:09They are my favorite sports team.
- 2:12I love them more than CrossFit,
- 2:13and that's the only thing I love more
- 2:16than CrossFit.
- 2:19But I am so amped for this season.
- 2:22In fact, a little tidbit.
- 2:25One of our listeners reached out to me
- 2:27late last week and offered me
- 2:31front row tickets in lambeau field to
- 2:33watch the bears packers game wow i have
- 2:37to pay for them but at least he's
- 2:40offering me access wow so julie and i
- 2:44took him up on the offer yeah and
- 2:46we are planning a long weekend in
- 2:49apparently green bay wisconsin damn that's
- 2:53awesome dude i i hope because i will
- 2:55be in blue and orange
- 2:58I hope that I am treated respectfully when
- 3:01I get there.
- 3:06So, yeah, that happened end of last week.
- 3:10And I asked Julie if she thought it
- 3:13was something we should do.
- 3:14And she was like,
- 3:15most definitely we're doing that.
- 3:16That's really cool.
- 3:17That's awesome.
- 3:19So we're in the end zone front row
- 3:23where everybody does like the Lambo leaps.
- 3:25Mm hmm.
- 3:27So it's going to be wild.
- 3:30I am so pumped.
- 3:31That'll be a neat experience.
- 3:34And here's the guy.
- 3:36Aww.
- 3:37So thank you very much, Mackie.
- 3:40Eric Mackie, I am so, so pumped.
- 3:43That's all I've been able to think about
- 3:45for the last two days.
- 3:48San Jose countdown, forty-seven days.
- 3:50That's crazy.
- 3:51It is.
- 3:53It is wild.
- 3:55Avera says, Carolyn,
- 3:56you in for online semifinals?
- 3:59You still got it, girl.
- 4:01You can do Masters for the next fifty
- 4:02years.
- 4:04We're going to get into all that in
- 4:05a second.
- 4:07So that's the tease for the night.
- 4:09But the one thing I want to ask
- 4:11Carolyn is,
- 4:12I saw it pop up on Instagram,
- 4:15a new program called Plyo by Prevo.
- 4:20Coming this fall.
- 4:21Yeah.
- 4:24basically every time I go to comps,
- 4:26cause I've,
- 4:26I've done so much plow my whole life.
- 4:29And, uh,
- 4:30like almost every comp I get asked, like,
- 4:33how do I incorporate my plyo with my
- 4:35program?
- 4:35Or do I have drills?
- 4:36Or I get asked if I would train
- 4:39teams and stuff, or just drills for plyos.
- 4:42And, uh, so in the fall, in October,
- 4:44that's my launching date I'm shooting for.
- 4:47Um, so I have like my,
- 4:49I guess my company name is like the
- 4:52complete athlete company.
- 4:54And then a program.
- 4:56And then ideally over time,
- 4:57I might have different programs like my
- 5:00GPP program and stuff,
- 5:01but this one would be like a pile
- 5:03by Prevo of like a,
- 5:06a supplemental training that people can
- 5:08add to the already regular training
- 5:11CrossFit stuff to make them a little bit
- 5:14more athletic.
- 5:15Cause I feel like there's a big hole
- 5:16in the CrossFit space,
- 5:18especially for athletic type training
- 5:21within the,
- 5:23what they're already doing and not,
- 5:25not like super time consuming,
- 5:27but like things that they can just like
- 5:28add on.
- 5:30So that's what I'm working on.
- 5:31I just have to figure out how I
- 5:33want to like,
- 5:34like the app and stuff that I'd want
- 5:36to do it and do a lot of
- 5:37filming content and stuff this summer.
- 5:40That's why I want to give myself till
- 5:41October.
- 5:42Cause I get the summer to be off
- 5:44and really, um,
- 5:46do a lot of filming and everything like
- 5:48that.
- 5:48So, yeah.
- 5:50So I love the name.
- 5:50Mm hmm.
- 5:52Plyo by Prevo is a great name.
- 5:57The other thing is,
- 5:58not only does it make you more athletic,
- 6:00but I saw some research,
- 6:01and it's probably been ten,
- 6:02fifteen years ago now,
- 6:04where they were adopting that in the NFL
- 6:06because it helps injury prevention.
- 6:10Just by making your body more adept at
- 6:15quick cutting and all of that stuff.
- 6:17Yeah.
- 6:17I mean,
- 6:18a lot of the injuries happen in like
- 6:20unilateral type positions,
- 6:21like single leg cutting and stuff.
- 6:25And a lot of the training that people
- 6:26are doing or it's bilateral only.
- 6:29So like learning to absorb force,
- 6:31like on a single leg and then producing
- 6:34it and changing direction,
- 6:35I think is really important to get like
- 6:40more healthy body and less injured.
- 6:43So, like,
- 6:44I've always trained a lot single leg stuff
- 6:47my whole life.
- 6:49I think it just translates very well to
- 6:51then getting power with two feet.
- 6:54Vicky says because she's not busy enough
- 6:56already.
- 6:57Yeah,
- 6:57she was bored for one second and thought,
- 7:00well, why don't I do this?
- 7:05Fergie says TB twelve type training,
- 7:08except for no avocado ice cream.
- 7:15Uh,
- 7:15Tessa got her first body weight pull up
- 7:17today.
- 7:18Don't judge me.
- 7:20I've been an athlete my entire life and
- 7:21just have never been able to do.
- 7:23And I strung four of them together.
- 7:25Wow.
- 7:26That is awesome.
- 7:30I remember when I got my first one
- 7:31and I remember when I lost them all
- 7:33and now I got to get them back.
- 7:39Uh, Ken Walters,
- 7:40I've seen a lot of NHL guys and
- 7:41D one hockey guys train playo and CP
- 7:44is up there with the best of them
- 7:46and better than most super impressive.
- 7:49There you go.
- 7:50There's your,
- 7:50there's your endorsement for the cover of
- 7:52the video.
- 7:56Um, so on another note, Jamie,
- 7:59I saw you at a concert last night.
- 8:02I did.
- 8:02Yeah.
- 8:03Who'd you see?
- 8:04Aaron and I went to grand Rapids.
- 8:06They have a new amphitheater.
- 8:09It was Parker McCollum and Max McNone.
- 8:12And someone else was a country.
- 8:15I don't know.
- 8:16It was country.
- 8:17Yes.
- 8:18Yes.
- 8:19So I've roomed with Jamie at different
- 8:22events.
- 8:24She plays country and sings country the
- 8:26entire time we're in the room.
- 8:29Just, just so you all are aware.
- 8:33She has a very nice singing voice too.
- 8:34It's rough.
- 8:39Whoops.
- 8:44Daniel Arnson,
- 8:44the amphitheater is completely needed.
- 8:48Unneeded.
- 8:49Unneeded.
- 8:51I think it's going to put,
- 8:52we have Pine Knob out here and like
- 8:55towards Detroit area.
- 8:56And I think it's going to like put
- 8:57that darn year out of business.
- 8:59It was, I really liked it.
- 9:02It's way nicer.
- 9:05I mean, there's just,
- 9:07The other one is there's nothing around.
- 9:10It's a pain to get to.
- 9:13Like,
- 9:13we were able to Uber in and Uber
- 9:14out.
- 9:15I mean,
- 9:16you have the hotels there if you want
- 9:17to just stay downtown.
- 9:18I stay at my sister's place.
- 9:21I don't know.
- 9:21I thought it was really nice.
- 9:23I liked it.
- 9:24I think they'll be able to get some
- 9:25pretty good acts in there.
- 9:27They put up a soccer stadium, too,
- 9:29which had us talking about that last
- 9:31night.
- 9:31We were like,
- 9:32maybe the games should come here with that
- 9:34soccer stadium that they put up.
- 9:36It'd be like the perfect.
- 9:38Uh, Avera says, Jamie,
- 9:39do you live in Michigan?
- 9:40Sorry.
- 9:41I'm sure most know, but I do not.
- 9:43I do live in Michigan.
- 9:44Yes.
- 9:46Lansing area right around the Capitol.
- 9:48Kinda.
- 9:49Uh, Ed says, Oh snap.
- 9:51Is that Jamie?
- 9:51The herd athlete with the fancy belts.
- 9:54Carolyn's of a herd athlete too.
- 9:55Yeah.
- 9:56She has fancy belts too.
- 10:00So yeah.
- 10:00Sweet.
- 10:01Go, go herd.
- 10:02Sure.
- 10:05Uh,
- 10:05pine knob is like four hours from grand
- 10:07Rapids.
- 10:07So I think pine knob will be just
- 10:08fine.
- 10:09Yeah, it's, I mean, it is a different,
- 10:12a little bit different area.
- 10:14I just, I think,
- 10:15I think people will come over to grand
- 10:16Rapids more often.
- 10:19I don't,
- 10:19I don't think I'll go back to my
- 10:20knob personally.
- 10:21I'll make sure I seek out the grand
- 10:24Rapids concerts.
- 10:26Speaking of stadiums being built.
- 10:28Did you see that the bears aren't getting
- 10:30one in Illinois?
- 10:32Yeah.
- 10:34So my beloved bears,
- 10:36maybe about a half an hour closer to
- 10:39me in Indiana.
- 10:44But I have a wild story for you
- 10:45guys,
- 10:45and then we'll get into the CrossFit
- 10:46stuff.
- 10:48So we went to see friends yesterday to
- 10:50celebrate birthdays and different things.
- 10:53And one of my friends is a coworker
- 10:55of mine.
- 10:57And two people we work with,
- 11:00got wrapped up in the Kash Patel raids
- 11:04on the different Medicaid frauds.
- 11:08Two of my coworkers were busted for
- 11:12creating false hospitals and saying that
- 11:16they were giving behavioral health
- 11:18services to youth.
- 11:22And when the youth were asked,
- 11:23they didn't even know of the hospital or
- 11:26the services or anything like that to the
- 11:28tune of thirty million dollars in Medicaid
- 11:30fraud.
- 11:32What?
- 11:32Yeah.
- 11:37I was shocked.
- 11:40Two people I work with busted.
- 11:43Oh, my gosh.
- 11:44They had like recently had like a bunch
- 11:50of nice things.
- 11:52so they so they um they retired a
- 11:56couple years ago so they're former
- 11:59co-workers but um but i worked with the
- 12:02one in particular for probably ten years
- 12:05wow and like closely and i would have
- 12:09never ever ever guessed that what the heck
- 12:17it was crazy they go to jail
- 12:23Well, right now it's all alleged.
- 12:25Okay.
- 12:26But they did seize fourteen cars from the
- 12:31two of them,
- 12:32including like a Bentley and they were all
- 12:37like like six Mercedes,
- 12:39a Bentley and a couple other things.
- 12:42It was nuts.
- 12:45It's always the least one you expect.
- 12:46Exactly.
- 12:47Like it just was not someone I expected
- 12:49it from.
- 12:53Andrew Sten saw a cool video on Alex
- 12:55Van Halen and the Hot for Teacher drum
- 12:58intro on the Drumeo YouTube channel.
- 13:00I've seen it there.
- 13:01It's in my queue.
- 13:02Still catching up on all the CrossFit
- 13:04stuff from this week,
- 13:06but it is definitely in my queue,
- 13:07Andrew Sten.
- 13:15Avery, you know,
- 13:16way more than two people who are criminal
- 13:18in the healthcare business.
- 13:20You just don't know who they are yet.
- 13:22Well, they're not in the, well,
- 13:24what I do for a living is not
- 13:25healthcare.
- 13:27I find people jobs for the state of
- 13:29Ohio.
- 13:30So what they got caught doing was nothing
- 13:33to what we do every day at the
- 13:36job.
- 13:37It's like a side job that they had.
- 13:40Yeah,
- 13:40if you want to call it a job
- 13:42or whatever it was.
- 13:44Yeah.
- 13:48And AI says you got to secure that
- 13:49retirement money somehow, right?
- 13:53Yeah.
- 13:54Well,
- 13:54and I guess it took a while because
- 13:56when you're talking behavioral health,
- 13:59there's no product being produced or lack
- 14:02of,
- 14:03so it's harder to prove that it didn't
- 14:05happen.
- 14:07um so yeah um yeah ken it's not
- 14:13just minnesota yeah all right just crazy i
- 14:20just i wanted to share that because it
- 14:22was it just totally caught me off guard
- 14:26yesterday and you you see it on the
- 14:30news and you just don't think it's going
- 14:31to hit that close to home
- 14:33So the one thing I wanted to jump
- 14:35into, because when we went live last week,
- 14:39Carolyn,
- 14:39you were actually just hitting the floor
- 14:44for your last event.
- 14:46And so people in the chat were rooting
- 14:48you on while they were listening to us
- 14:52and you ended up winning that event.
- 14:54But I wanted to get your overall
- 14:57perspective on how NorCal went.
- 15:00I was at Syndicate, you were at NorCal.
- 15:04I wanted to ask you just some questions
- 15:06about it.
- 15:07And the first thing is,
- 15:09all I hear about it is how awesome
- 15:11the atmosphere is.
- 15:12What is your perspective on that?
- 15:15Yeah, I mean,
- 15:15there's not many competitions like that
- 15:18around anymore.
- 15:18Like it's thousands of tents or tents,
- 15:21thousands of people outside a bunch of
- 15:24tents.
- 15:26Like between the events,
- 15:27you just go and sit down under a
- 15:28tent and you're just chatting with people.
- 15:31You meet so many different, you know,
- 15:34communities and events.
- 15:36athletes and gym owners and all of that
- 15:39like you're just so much closer to people
- 15:41than in a regular competition where you're
- 15:43kind of in the back warming up you
- 15:45compete you kind of stay in the back
- 15:47and you don't really talk to people like
- 15:49other than your team and the athletes that
- 15:51you compete against like this is nothing
- 15:53like that um
- 15:56So yeah, just very unique.
- 15:58This is like my fourth year doing it.
- 16:01I love it every time.
- 16:04Yeah,
- 16:04I love the community part of it and
- 16:07just a different outside vibe of it.
- 16:09It's cool.
- 16:13Jamie asked me this last week.
- 16:16She asked me if I was recognized more
- 16:18this year with the show and everything.
- 16:21Does anybody talk to you about this show
- 16:23or do they just talk to you about
- 16:25being an athlete?
- 16:27They don't even talk to me about anything.
- 16:29Half the time they don't even know who
- 16:30I am.
- 16:32That's not true.
- 16:34That is true.
- 16:35I barely get recognized.
- 16:35You've been talked about so much this week
- 16:37on all the shows.
- 16:39I know,
- 16:39but I barely get recognized anytime I go
- 16:41to like any affiliate or gyms or
- 16:43competitions.
- 16:45No,
- 16:45I wouldn't say that they talk much about
- 16:48Clydesdale or like they might just ask me
- 16:51about the master's qualification or stuff
- 16:54like that.
- 16:55If I'm what I'm doing competing this
- 16:57weekend or one of my goals,
- 16:59but other than that,
- 17:00I'd say kind of fly under the radar
- 17:02a lot.
- 17:04Hmm.
- 17:05That's crazy.
- 17:05Yeah.
- 17:05People come up to me and are like,
- 17:08love the show.
- 17:09That's surprising that they don't.
- 17:15So beyond that,
- 17:16Becca said that she watches the show, uh,
- 17:19and I was sitting with her at one
- 17:20point, um, under the tent.
- 17:23And she said that,
- 17:23I don't know if she watches the lunch
- 17:24show or our show.
- 17:26I took it as all of it.
- 17:28Yeah.
- 17:28She said that she liked this.
- 17:29So, yeah,
- 17:30I think it's more of the Sunday.
- 17:31I like,
- 17:32we have way more viewers on the Sunday
- 17:33show than the lunch show, but, um,
- 17:36And I've been friends with Becca for a
- 17:38long time.
- 17:40When I was with Morning Chalk Cup,
- 17:41I used her as an analyst for the
- 17:44rundown.
- 17:46And so Becca is just, I mean,
- 17:50I consider still part of the family.
- 17:51She's just busy going to her like,
- 17:53nineteen straight CrossFit games.
- 17:55Yeah.
- 17:55Just nuts.
- 17:56Nineteen.
- 17:57That's crazy.
- 17:59And her husband actually helped a lot,
- 18:00I think, in some of the,
- 18:02I don't know if it was programming or
- 18:04logistics of the event.
- 18:06Like it was his idea, I believe.
- 18:08Like the TV being there during the bike
- 18:12event for the spectators to see like the
- 18:15different boats or bikes, I don't know,
- 18:18of where people were.
- 18:21Yeah,
- 18:21so they were involved to some extent.
- 18:26Judy Reed,
- 18:27I snagged a pic with Carolyn at Vendor
- 18:28Village last year.
- 18:34Claire Bay is saying she loves seeing you.
- 18:37She was doing the floor announcing.
- 18:38Yeah, that's crazy.
- 18:40All day in the sun.
- 18:41Didn't even get a sunburn or anything.
- 18:43I was watching her show the other day.
- 18:45I'm like,
- 18:45how are you not burned from just being
- 18:47outside the whole day?
- 18:48She had a bunch of sunscreen, but still.
- 18:51I would be toasty.
- 18:55I don't know how someone's voice holds up
- 18:57that long during a day.
- 18:58Me either.
- 18:59That too.
- 18:59That's the good one.
- 19:00Like I do ninety minutes and I'm about
- 19:02toast.
- 19:07Yeah.
- 19:08So, yeah.
- 19:13Does anybody throw you off by asking you
- 19:14a math lesson plan?
- 19:15No.
- 19:20Carolyn, when are you done with school?
- 19:24June twenty six is officially the last
- 19:27day.
- 19:28There you go.
- 19:32CrossFit says Claire uses FPS SPF one
- 19:35hundred.
- 19:36Something like that.
- 19:38Grant said when he called her up to
- 19:39the podium,
- 19:40she competed at the CrossFit game seven
- 19:42hundred and fifty times.
- 19:45Yeah.
- 19:47Yeah.
- 19:47She's just Grant.
- 19:48Grant was great as well.
- 19:49He was doing when he did the
- 19:53The briefing, like his energy is crazy.
- 19:56Grant's like the Ninja Warrior guy.
- 19:58Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 20:00Yeah.
- 20:00Oh, that one.
- 20:02Yeah, he was funny in the briefing,
- 20:04like when he was doing the workout demo.
- 20:07And yeah, he was great.
- 20:10Good addition with Claire.
- 20:12My biggest regret,
- 20:13just back to Becca for a second,
- 20:14is Jamie and I were in Pasadena.
- 20:16We went to do a drop-in at a
- 20:18gym,
- 20:19and we were only like a half a
- 20:21mile from Becca's gym.
- 20:22Why we didn't pick her gym to go
- 20:25to for the drop-in was just dumb.
- 20:29Yeah.
- 20:30I mean, it was a great gym,
- 20:31and we had a good time,
- 20:33and it was a good workout,
- 20:34but you only get so many shots to
- 20:36be in California to go to,
- 20:40what is it?
- 20:42It's got the tree yard.
- 20:42There's training yard.
- 20:44Yeah.
- 20:45training yard.
- 20:46Yep.
- 20:46Yeah, we messed up there.
- 20:50He's like throwing fireworks on the middle
- 20:51of the floor.
- 20:53Crazy energy.
- 20:55And yes, it's the island ninja.
- 20:57Yeah, I was I was close.
- 21:03So how was the competition itself?
- 21:07what's like for the for the events like
- 21:11or personal like just for the events like
- 21:15uh in terms of um like the reputation
- 21:18it had from you know the prior years
- 21:21it didn't have any mess ups except for
- 21:24maybe one on the, on, um,
- 21:27I don't know if it was the first
- 21:28or second heat of the elite men on
- 21:31the bike.
- 21:31There was a false start just so that,
- 21:33so then they redid that.
- 21:34But other than that,
- 21:36I felt like all of the events were
- 21:39like fair.
- 21:40Like you weren't starting running to your
- 21:42judge with a scorecard or anything like
- 21:43that.
- 21:44I thought they really cleaned up a lot
- 21:45of the things from the prior years that
- 21:47they, you know,
- 21:48they took on the feedback and they, um,
- 21:51program like a um safe not not safe
- 21:55in terms of like it's not uh like
- 22:00difficult but like just like a not easy
- 22:03one that wasn't going to get them in
- 22:05trouble like yeah yeah yeah like fear of
- 22:08having to eliminate an event because it it
- 22:10just didn't come off as planned yeah like
- 22:12you can see in the past a little
- 22:15bit more um things that have left field
- 22:18out of nor count we didn't quite
- 22:20get like too much of that,
- 22:21but they still stay true to themselves.
- 22:23They released the workouts on the Thursday
- 22:24at the briefing.
- 22:25We found them out there.
- 22:27Um,
- 22:28the briefing actually went shorter than I
- 22:30thought I was expecting it to be super
- 22:32long.
- 22:32Cause in the past,
- 22:33the workouts would get released the day of
- 22:35the briefing,
- 22:35but sometimes it'd get released like
- 22:37around lunchtime.
- 22:39So people got to read the standards and
- 22:41everything on competition corner prior to
- 22:43like arriving to the briefing.
- 22:44So,
- 22:45but we found them out at the briefing.
- 22:47There wasn't any stupid questions really.
- 22:52I think because of the movement.
- 22:52No, it wasn't bad.
- 22:54Was there a no stupid questions?
- 22:56I don't think he asked a single question.
- 22:58I was shocked.
- 22:59Maybe that's why he did so bad.
- 23:03He didn't do that bad.
- 23:04It's a close start,
- 23:05but then he picked it up at the
- 23:06end.
- 23:08But yeah, no,
- 23:09I thought the event ran smoothly.
- 23:11For the most part, everything's on time.
- 23:14Obviously, there's, you know,
- 23:16There can be some no reps or what
- 23:18sometimes like certain lane
- 23:19inconsistencies.
- 23:21But for the most part,
- 23:23I think everyone was pretty happy.
- 23:24All the divisions got to do a bunch
- 23:28of workouts.
- 23:29And yeah,
- 23:30for my own performance up and down,
- 23:32I knew there was two workouts that were
- 23:33going to be bad for me,
- 23:34which was the first one with the double
- 23:38unders running and rowing.
- 23:40And then the eighteen K bike is not
- 23:42a good one for me.
- 23:44there so it was more about damage control
- 23:47on those two um i felt like i
- 23:51overheated a lot especially on day one
- 23:54because like that cal sue one should have
- 23:56been much better for me but i think
- 23:58i sat down a little bit like pat
- 24:00velner um a couple times but it was
- 24:02on my riser instead of at the bar
- 24:06um
- 24:07Yeah,
- 24:07just overheating a little bit that whole
- 24:10day.
- 24:10But, you know,
- 24:11I arrive basically in this weather and it
- 24:14hasn't been super hot.
- 24:15And I don't I didn't train outside a
- 24:17single time leading up to it.
- 24:19So, yeah, a little bit up and down.
- 24:20Happy to end on a high note with
- 24:23the event win.
- 24:25But, yeah,
- 24:25a few workouts I thought were going to
- 24:27be better and they weren't.
- 24:30So that happens sometimes.
- 24:34A personal comment, Avera, says, Carolyn,
- 24:37I played professional hockey.
- 24:38Keep details to myself online for
- 24:40anonymity,
- 24:41but I will tell you I was drafted
- 24:43out of the OHL not far from your
- 24:45current location.
- 24:52Cool.
- 24:52Awesome.
- 24:54Pat needs to ask those questions.
- 24:56He's literally a broken – he's broken a
- 24:58bike, fallen off a net,
- 24:59and rolled a plate across the floor.
- 25:01He's trying to plan ahead.
- 25:04Not a bad point, CrossFit.
- 25:08And I didn't mean he did horrible.
- 25:10He just didn't qualify is, I guess,
- 25:11what I meant.
- 25:15And for him, that's not optimal, right?
- 25:19He's there to qualify.
- 25:22He's also one that can do well online.
- 25:24Traditionally has done very well online,
- 25:27can put it together there.
- 25:29So I still think that he has a
- 25:32shot.
- 25:34So do you think NorCal did enough to
- 25:36show and prove that they deserve three
- 25:39spots instead of two?
- 25:41Yeah,
- 25:42I think that there's nothing wrong with
- 25:43giving them three spots.
- 25:44I think you could easily.
- 25:46And I think if you give three spots,
- 25:47the depth of field would be higher too.
- 25:51But guys, I don't see why not.
- 25:56Yeah.
- 25:56So my last question for you is,
- 25:59and it's just part of our long-standing
- 26:02debate.
- 26:03So if NorCal is so great,
- 26:05what is wrong with us going to a
- 26:08regional approach in outdoor stadiums?
- 26:14Say that again?
- 26:16My contention has been...
- 26:18Like the rain stuff that I said?
- 26:20To going to a regional approach in outdoor
- 26:22stadiums.
- 26:24because that area like rarely rains and
- 26:27that's not the case for every location
- 26:29that you would have in the world and
- 26:31every weather climate in the world like
- 26:33some places right now are like in winter
- 26:37like it's not it's not the same that
- 26:40way um i just think it saves a
- 26:42lot of events that can change and all
- 26:45of a sudden the whole programming is
- 26:47completely different
- 26:49Like there's no,
- 26:50there's no polling because you can't be on
- 26:52a bar and you know, you can't like,
- 26:55I think the outdoor event can be,
- 26:57it's a couple that you can have and
- 27:01it's gotta be at the right time of
- 27:02the year and in certain locations.
- 27:06To have it as across like ten regions,
- 27:10I think would be impossible.
- 27:11You're just looking at a bunch of events
- 27:13getting changed or canceled.
- 27:15And I think when you're trying to get
- 27:17people to the next level,
- 27:18I don't think it's worth it.
- 27:19I really don't think it's worth it.
- 27:20I agree.
- 27:23I just... We have to find a...
- 27:24And we're going to talk about this later
- 27:26in the show.
- 27:26So I'll just drop it for here.
- 27:30But I would never hold a regional event
- 27:31in Miami either, CrossFit.
- 27:33Yeah.
- 27:34Like that, it just...
- 27:36It rains every single day in Florida,
- 27:38like every day.
- 27:40That's just a stupid place to put an
- 27:42event.
- 27:48So anyway, so that's NorCal.
- 27:52You had a good time.
- 27:54It sounds like Lex did a community event.
- 28:00So she did the elite pairs.
- 28:02Actually, she filled in for Val, the girl.
- 28:06So Val has been dealing with an injury
- 28:10for...
- 28:11I think that's why she didn't do the
- 28:12season.
- 28:13Her planner...
- 28:18Yeah.
- 28:18Has been, you know,
- 28:20hurting and she'd started the event at the
- 28:23first two events and then it was just
- 28:25too much.
- 28:26She was,
- 28:26she wasn't sure whether she was going to
- 28:28be able to do the whole weekend,
- 28:29tested it out, had to withdraw.
- 28:31And then her partner,
- 28:32Molly didn't have a someone.
- 28:34So yeah.
- 28:35Lex was already there.
- 28:36Lex is ready to do any workout at
- 28:38any point.
- 28:39You don't have to tell her twice if
- 28:41she's got her gear here.
- 28:43Um, so Lex filled in and, um,
- 28:46because she was replacing every event,
- 28:50they were taking a dead last,
- 28:51no matter how they did.
- 28:53What?
- 28:53No,
- 28:53just to not affect the leaderboard because
- 28:56you're filling, you're going into,
- 28:58you changed partners, right?
- 29:00So she did four of the six events.
- 29:03They would have placed second.
- 29:05They would have placed second, honestly,
- 29:06if Val had done the whole weekend and
- 29:08she was healthy.
- 29:09Or if Lex started the whole weekend,
- 29:11they would have finished behind Jesse
- 29:16Smith and Lauren Stalwood.
- 29:18It was literally,
- 29:19they beat them in the lifting event.
- 29:21Like they, as in Lex and Molly,
- 29:23because Lex just...
- 29:25muscle clean that weight and just put it
- 29:27above um but yeah so they were just
- 29:29taking dead last on everything no matter
- 29:32if they were finishing second like on
- 29:33every event so val started the competition
- 29:36and okay that makes sense because they
- 29:39paid because they paid the registration
- 29:41fee like that other girl molly still
- 29:43wanted to compete so she said we'll take
- 29:46dead last it's fine i just want to
- 29:48do the workouts
- 29:49So Lex filled in.
- 29:50Lex wanted to do the workouts.
- 29:53And it's funny because the four workouts
- 29:54that she came in on,
- 29:55like those are great workouts for Lex.
- 29:58So yeah, so they had a fun time.
- 30:01And yeah, so they did the elite pairs.
- 30:06that's cool and then it that just makes
- 30:08for a fun weekend yeah because like in
- 30:11between my events i got to watch you
- 30:14know them compete um i'd go watch becca
- 30:17compete as well and just just different
- 30:19people in the community that i that i
- 30:21know so it's fun does does that help
- 30:23get your mind off of things when you
- 30:24get to go do that as opposed to
- 30:27like just being by yourself in the back
- 30:29Um, yes and no.
- 30:32I look at the flow of the events.
- 30:35I can look at maybe things I'm seeing
- 30:37if there's patterns of strategies that I
- 30:39like or, um,
- 30:41things are getting no rep more than
- 30:43normal.
- 30:43You know, you're,
- 30:44you're just kind of looking at the event.
- 30:48Um, personally,
- 30:49I'd like to be in an AC room
- 30:52in a hotel with no sun, um,
- 30:55During a long day outside,
- 30:57but being at the venue and just being
- 31:00stuck there,
- 31:01I'd rather watch here and there than come
- 31:03back to my tent and cool off.
- 31:05So that was fun.
- 31:08Thank you, Jeremy.
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- 31:27um you said something this isn't on our
- 31:32rundown so i'm going off script but um
- 31:38there's been some discussion about matt
- 31:40torres saying that his athletes should
- 31:44train in air conditioning because when
- 31:47you're at events in an arena that's the
- 31:50climate you're in but
- 31:54Conversely, if you have to go outside,
- 31:57are you then not prepared for those
- 32:00elements if there's an outdoor aspect to
- 32:03the event?
- 32:04Yeah, you have to train with heat.
- 32:06Like there's a different element with the
- 32:07sun being down on you.
- 32:10Yeah, the heat is a different beast.
- 32:14Like I did zero training outside.
- 32:18None.
- 32:19I think, yeah.
- 32:20So there's,
- 32:21it's a huge element of competing outdoors.
- 32:23It can dehydrate you faster,
- 32:27just drain your energy faster.
- 32:28So being able to train through that is,
- 32:33or like compete at that is very important
- 32:35as well as indoors when given.
- 32:37But like,
- 32:37if you know you're going to compete
- 32:38outside, you should train outside.
- 32:40Now the games is going to be indoor
- 32:41with AC with a few events outside.
- 32:43So they can't just be training AC because
- 32:46they got to go outside as well,
- 32:48knowing that there's runs and whatever
- 32:51implement they're going to be doing
- 32:51outside.
- 32:53I've never been in a CrossFit gym with
- 32:55AC.
- 32:55I mean, yeah, me neither.
- 33:00Mine has AC.
- 33:00I mean, I've never.
- 33:01Mine has windows.
- 33:04Mine had big doors with a big-ass fan.
- 33:07Yeah, yeah.
- 33:09But no AC.
- 33:11Yeah, no AC.
- 33:11We have the heat in the wintertime.
- 33:13That's about it.
- 33:13But, yeah, no AC.
- 33:21Scott,
- 33:22would pairs be more popular than teams at
- 33:24the games?
- 33:25Personally,
- 33:26I think pairs would be a lot more
- 33:28interesting.
- 33:30Be less confusing, that's for sure.
- 33:35i don't know but it adds more people
- 33:38because now all of a sudden you have
- 33:39let's say i don't know if you want
- 33:40to have like same sex pairs or right
- 33:43guy girl but it's more divisions yeah but
- 33:47it i think it's less connected to the
- 33:49affiliates agree so i think teams needs to
- 33:59be reworked completely and i'm sure not
- 34:01many people i think it should be
- 34:04that should take an element of grid where
- 34:07you can,
- 34:08you have a team of six who you
- 34:10can put in different events and the,
- 34:13and then four people actually compete in
- 34:15each event, but you have six on your,
- 34:18so two on the bench and the next
- 34:20event comes and you pick the four you
- 34:22want in that event and so on through
- 34:24the weekend,
- 34:25kind of like the water Palooza,
- 34:28SoCal thing ish.
- 34:31Um,
- 34:33Because now you have six people on the
- 34:34team, six from the same affiliate.
- 34:36Now you have a whole lot more people
- 34:38coming to your event.
- 34:39And if there's an injury,
- 34:41they're not just out.
- 34:43Yeah.
- 34:44I fully agree with that.
- 34:46Pick your strengths and weaknesses,
- 34:47pick people on the team that can be
- 34:48home run hitters and there might be out
- 34:50there for one event and that's it.
- 34:51And maybe you'll have some Olympic lifters
- 34:55all of a sudden part of teams,
- 34:56but whatever.
- 34:59Yeah.
- 34:59And,
- 35:00Like maybe there's a minimum of two events
- 35:01that they have to do.
- 35:02I don't know.
- 35:02Something like that.
- 35:03Like who knows?
- 35:07Yeah.
- 35:07And don't we want to see the home
- 35:09runs?
- 35:10Isn't that more exciting?
- 35:11Yeah.
- 35:14That that's,
- 35:15that's been my thought process for over a
- 35:17year now.
- 35:20And then I think it's,
- 35:20it's more fun to watch.
- 35:28Yes, I agree.
- 35:30I was already typing this actually team
- 35:31aspect strategy, etc.
- 35:34That's exactly what I was going to say.
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- 36:05Actually a team instead of the four
- 36:06fittest people, that would be better.
- 36:08Yes.
- 36:09Yes.
- 36:10You're calling it teams.
- 36:12Now you're giving it a team aspect with
- 36:15a team manager who gets to decide like
- 36:19who his starters are for each event.
- 36:27Like Tola doing heavy lifts.
- 36:28Yes.
- 36:30Everybody wants to see Tola do the heavy
- 36:32lifts.
- 36:33Then you have Jamie doing your burpee toes
- 36:36to bar workout.
- 36:39And she doesn't have to lift the heavy
- 36:40bar.
- 36:41Yay.
- 36:43Right.
- 36:46Deadlift workout comes out.
- 36:47Carolyn is definitely in the starting
- 36:49lineup.
- 36:52Got it.
- 36:52Put me in coach.
- 36:58Uh,
- 36:58that used to be how they did it.
- 36:59Regionals each day,
- 37:00two to six would have their own event
- 37:03and then another with the whole team.
- 37:08I don't remember that,
- 37:09and I was at regionals, but okay.
- 37:18George, don't call it grid.
- 37:20We're just calling substitutions like
- 37:22grid.
- 37:23I don't want the events like grid.
- 37:25Yeah, not mid-workout substitutions.
- 37:28Right.
- 37:29Event two comes up.
- 37:30You pick your four.
- 37:31Those are the four that do it.
- 37:33No substitutions during just strategy on
- 37:36who starts that event.
- 37:45Grid is its own thing.
- 37:46And I actually enjoy watching it sometimes
- 37:48just because it's over and done in an
- 37:50hour.
- 37:54Yeah.
- 37:58So anywhere.
- 38:03No hot changes over the boards.
- 38:06Hockey style.
- 38:09Line change.
- 38:15So, okay.
- 38:20All right.
- 38:21So this weekend coming up is the online
- 38:25semifinals and
- 38:28for elites,
- 38:29there are a whole lot of people who
- 38:32have been to the games who do not
- 38:34have their ticket yet.
- 38:39My brief rant on this is this is
- 38:42the most drama we have in the whole
- 38:43season and we don't get to see it.
- 38:47Yep.
- 38:47I mean,
- 38:48the videos will be online for you to
- 38:49see, but not,
- 38:51but you don't get to see it as
- 38:52a competition.
- 38:52Yeah.
- 38:53You have to piece it together.
- 38:56And so I'm going to share our notes
- 38:57just so you can see.
- 38:58What would be cool?
- 38:59What would be cool for CrossFit to do
- 39:02is,
- 39:02you know how there's always like a one
- 39:04hour window of when like the scores are
- 39:10done and then like an hour later,
- 39:12the leaderboard gets showed.
- 39:15If like CrossFit somehow did a show like
- 39:17Rogue did a few years ago and like
- 39:19the online semifinals of twenty twenty one
- 39:22where it's like event one,
- 39:23they did a show.
- 39:24It's like top
- 39:26four or six athletes all like on event
- 39:30one and and then release those like as
- 39:32a workout like on youtube and then event
- 39:34two top whatever scores that they got an
- 39:39hour before they just post those videos
- 39:41with just like quick scores i don't know
- 39:43if that's even possible but that would be
- 39:45cool like to do i'm sure those athletes
- 39:48would get ripped for no reps and stuff
- 39:49and but um
- 39:53to make it some sort of competition even
- 39:55if it's like the top two scores or
- 39:59uh jeremy what would it take for these
- 40:01athletes to go live no i think nobody's
- 40:04gonna go live it too much is on
- 40:05the line uh avarice says okay darn it
- 40:11scott i've been patient i want to know
- 40:13what carolyn is doing are you competing
- 40:17this weekend carolyn
- 40:19Yeah, I'll look at the workouts on Monday.
- 40:21If there's a bunch of them that are
- 40:23bad, I won't waste my time.
- 40:25But the idea is that I would be
- 40:27doing them.
- 40:30But like I said,
- 40:31if it's like four hundred double owners on
- 40:32the spot, I don't know.
- 40:38Running outside.
- 40:40I don't think we'll do that.
- 40:41I don't know.
- 40:42A bunch of max lifts.
- 40:44That's upper body.
- 40:47I won't waste my time or money.
- 40:49I'll continue training for the Masters,
- 40:51but the goal is to do the online
- 40:55signings this week.
- 40:57John George, with all the sarcasm,
- 41:00can't wait to sit around and wait for
- 41:01the leaderboard.
- 41:03It's so nerve-wracking to see it.
- 41:06Did you already sign up for you to
- 41:08accept your invite for the Masters games,
- 41:10didn't you?
- 41:11Yeah, that five hundred American.
- 41:13Yeah.
- 41:13Must be seven hundred and like eleven
- 41:15dollars Canadian.
- 41:16That was expensive.
- 41:20So expensive.
- 41:22If someone says deadlifts three times,
- 41:24she's in.
- 41:25If there's three deadlifts,
- 41:26there's a bunch of hinging workouts.
- 41:27I am all in.
- 41:29I am all in.
- 41:30Again, there's workouts that,
- 41:33and I do well online, like in twenty,
- 41:36twenty one,
- 41:36I won like the online semifinals there.
- 41:38I do, I do on the open this,
- 41:39these are different style of workouts of
- 41:41course.
- 41:42Um,
- 41:44but I can hide a couple of my
- 41:47holes sometimes online that get exposed in
- 41:52person.
- 41:53So with the right workouts, who knows?
- 41:58Who knows?
- 42:00But that's the case for a lot of
- 42:01people.
- 42:03All right,
- 42:03I'm going to stop sharing for a second
- 42:04because people are talking.
- 42:07And now I've got to talk back.
- 42:10So Barry McOchner, wow, that is expensive.
- 42:13Yes,
- 42:14that is something that completely pisses
- 42:16me off.
- 42:17CrossFit is not trying to be creative
- 42:20about how to earn money in other ways
- 42:23other than selling tickets.
- 42:25And so the people that pay are your
- 42:28attraction.
- 42:32The people that qualified for the games
- 42:34are the ones paying the price.
- 42:37That entry fee has gone up the last
- 42:39three years.
- 42:41Yes.
- 42:42Exponentially.
- 42:43For getting less.
- 42:47Yeah.
- 42:48And all it is is CrossFit trying to
- 42:50recoup their money in a way that's easy
- 42:53for them instead of thinking outside the
- 42:55box and trying to be more creative with
- 42:58revenue streams.
- 43:02The one thing that is like,
- 43:05I hate the way this season is structured,
- 43:07but what you've seen is so many creative
- 43:10ways of saving and getting new types of
- 43:13revenue streams at these in-person
- 43:16semifinals.
- 43:18Like now you have the guerrilla broadcasts
- 43:21that cost way less than what we were
- 43:24doing before.
- 43:25You have different ways of having
- 43:28sponsorships added to the event to get
- 43:33more bang for your buck, right?
- 43:36All those things.
- 43:37CrossFit isn't trying any of that.
- 43:40None of it.
- 43:42All they're doing is passing on the cost
- 43:45to the attraction, the athletes,
- 43:48and the people who want to come watch
- 43:50them with eight hundred dollar tickets.
- 43:53I know, I was looking at how much,
- 43:54like, because, like, our competition ends,
- 43:58what, Thursday?
- 43:59Like,
- 43:59we get a free in on the Friday
- 44:01for all the day at the Coliseum or
- 44:04whatever, the SAP Center.
- 44:06But, like,
- 44:07I was looking at tickets for the Saturday
- 44:09and Sunday, and I was like, oh,
- 44:10my goodness.
- 44:11Like, this is just getting so expensive.
- 44:13Like,
- 44:14because I want to watch the elites compete
- 44:16if I'm not there, right?
- 44:17Like, I love watching CrossFit,
- 44:19and I'm looking at the price,
- 44:20and I'm like –
- 44:21Man, it's expensive.
- 44:23Plus the hotel, staying a few days longer.
- 44:27You're looking, you're like,
- 44:28I ain't doing any shopping if I'm staying.
- 44:34Like it's just, it's too expensive.
- 44:37A thirty men,
- 44:37thirty women in HQ can't give the athletes
- 44:39a free entry fee.
- 44:41Nope.
- 44:43And that's by going away from the
- 44:45festival.
- 44:47That's what happened.
- 44:48Yes.
- 44:49When we had a festival,
- 44:50an outdoor portion,
- 44:53they did ninety dollar tickets for the
- 44:55weekend.
- 44:56They did campgrounds.
- 44:58They let the athletes who qualified have a
- 45:01free pass to the festival side of the
- 45:04games.
- 45:05So you could be a part of it.
- 45:07Maybe you couldn't get inside the arena,
- 45:10but you could be a part of it
- 45:11in other ways.
- 45:13Now it's all indoors.
- 45:16It's all limited.
- 45:17Nobody can
- 45:21It's so frustrating.
- 45:27I remember the one year when I got
- 45:29cut at the games.
- 45:30I was like in... I'd be pissed.
- 45:36...and they just take your credential and
- 45:39then you have to buy a ticket to
- 45:40go watch the rest of the weekend.
- 45:43And I'm an elite competitor that whole
- 45:45weekend and I got cut.
- 45:47And it's like me, I don't know,
- 45:48Sam Briggs, a few other people.
- 45:50We just like took it like a piece
- 45:52picture and like, we're just,
- 45:53here's our credential and go buy a ticket
- 45:55to go watch the rest of your competitors
- 45:57compete.
- 45:59I was like, man, that sucks.
- 46:02Thankfully I had a ticket for me from,
- 46:05you know,
- 46:05an extra ticket from the members that
- 46:08across the Coliseum.
- 46:09But yeah,
- 46:12like even the individuals had to pay their
- 46:13own ticket.
- 46:15If you got eliminated, like that's crazy.
- 46:18As a group,
- 46:18can we create a way to support,
- 46:20sponsor Carolyn and Jamie for their games
- 46:22cost?
- 46:23What about some CM t-shirts?
- 46:27I was going to do super chats to
- 46:29support both of them to the games.
- 46:31I just was going to wait until we
- 46:33knew where Carolyn was going to be and
- 46:37all of that after next weekend.
- 46:41But we'll do some super chats and all
- 46:43that money will go to the two of
- 46:44them to support them to the games.
- 46:47And maybe we'll come up with some other
- 46:48things.
- 46:54There better not be cuts for five hundred
- 46:56dollars.
- 47:00Yeah,
- 47:01it costing like I think it's like nine
- 47:03hundred dollars if you want to go for
- 47:04the whole week.
- 47:05If you want to go watch Masters.
- 47:08Watch teens and adaptive and go watch
- 47:10elites.
- 47:11It's like nine hundred dollars.
- 47:13Maybe a little more than that.
- 47:15Went to Madison six times,
- 47:17so maybe only paid for Coliseum twice.
- 47:20The festival was awesome.
- 47:21Yeah, it was so good.
- 47:23That whole location was so perfect.
- 47:26They need to go back to that location
- 47:29or find another one similar to that where
- 47:32they can set up the festival.
- 47:35Yeah, and the big TVs.
- 47:41Tessa's changing her screen name to
- 47:42Jamie's Pipes.
- 47:52How much does YouTube suck off the top?
- 47:55Judy was right.
- 47:56Venmo might be better.
- 47:57So, John,
- 47:58what happens is I foot the YouTube price
- 48:02and I will pay that out.
- 48:04So whatever is donated,
- 48:06the girls will get.
- 48:16Nine hundred dollars for a week of
- 48:17entertainment is pretty good price.
- 48:19Is it?
- 48:21but again, that's one person.
- 48:22Think about writing your whole family.
- 48:25Like,
- 48:25does your whole family want to pay that
- 48:28kids, brothers, sisters, or, you know,
- 48:31they don't, I'm sorry, but they don't.
- 48:34It's, it's pretty expensive.
- 48:37Like I'm a competitor and I love every
- 48:40single thing about CrossFit and like,
- 48:42I'll pay it if I have to,
- 48:43but that's cause like, I freaking love it.
- 48:47Um,
- 48:49People that just want to see their dad
- 48:51compete or their mom compete and the whole
- 48:54family.
- 48:54That's expensive.
- 48:57Mark, I don't believe so.
- 49:05I don't see anything like that on my
- 49:08end.
- 49:11Did you?
- 49:15Okay.
- 49:16So done with my rant on the cost
- 49:19of everything.
- 49:20Let's look at,
- 49:23and we're going to get into like the
- 49:24re the semifinal format at the end of
- 49:27the show, if we have time left,
- 49:29but let's look at the lineup for next
- 49:31weekend.
- 49:37Stacked.
- 49:37Do you think the woman's field is more
- 49:39stacked or the men's?
- 49:41Yes.
- 49:44I think both sides,
- 49:45it's going to be hard to call.
- 49:48I think the women's is more stacked.
- 49:50I do.
- 49:51But I don't think it matters because with
- 49:55the seven spots,
- 49:55there are way more than seven on both
- 49:58sides who have the talent to make it.
- 50:01Do you think we get an athlete like
- 50:03last year, like Syria, that just...
- 50:06She didn't come out of nowhere because I'm
- 50:08sure if you had followed her journey from
- 50:11where she lives,
- 50:12people would have maybe foreseen that.
- 50:14Did anybody have Rachel Noel on their
- 50:16bingo card?
- 50:17Because I didn't.
- 50:18I did not.
- 50:19She was so impressive.
- 50:20Oh my goodness.
- 50:22That was crazy.
- 50:23Four event wins out of seven.
- 50:25Four event wins.
- 50:26And event wins that I thought were
- 50:29shoe-ins for Gazan.
- 50:31Things that I would pick Gazan out of
- 50:34anyone in the world.
- 50:35And I was like,
- 50:37wow, she's getting beat.
- 50:39It's crazy.
- 50:42She was so impressive.
- 50:46Are we going men first?
- 50:48Pretty sure Madison wanted VF back,
- 50:52but the Coliseum there is too old and
- 50:53out of date.
- 50:54What's VF?
- 50:56That was supposed to be CF.
- 50:57Cross it back.
- 50:58So I did,
- 50:59I have talked to Heather Lawrence,
- 51:01like because of how old that Coliseum was,
- 51:05the setup was a week where when we
- 51:08went to Fort Worth, they just,
- 51:11it was plug and play.
- 51:12Yeah.
- 51:14So there are factors into this that we
- 51:16as fans don't know all the details on.
- 51:18But yeah.
- 51:25All right, let's go to the men.
- 51:28People said how much do the tickets to
- 51:29the Super Bowl cost?
- 51:31That's not even relevant to this
- 51:32conversation.
- 51:34The Super Bowl gets the best ratings of
- 51:37the TV season over everything,
- 51:41and it has millions and millions of fans.
- 51:44CrossFit has thousands and thousands.
- 51:47Yeah, we're not the Super Bowl.
- 51:50All right, so here's the list of...
- 51:53Chris Ibarra, Alex Gatulis,
- 51:55Colton Mertens, Enrico Zanoni,
- 51:58Fabian Hermans, Guy Mejeros,
- 52:03Ilya Muskelenko, Jack Farlow,
- 52:06Jorge Fernandez, Justin Medeiros,
- 52:08Nate Ackerman, Noah Olson, Peter Ellis,
- 52:11Riley Martin, Sven Gienz,
- 52:14William Leahy IV, Cullen Bosshardt,
- 52:19Fabian Benito, George Scarvis,
- 52:22Harry Lightfoot, Jonah Koski,
- 52:25Mitchell Stevenson,
- 52:26who crushed it at NorCal too.
- 52:28I love that dude.
- 52:29And he always just misses.
- 52:32He was on a demo team with me
- 52:33in twenty twenty three.
- 52:35So such a fit guy.
- 52:36I haven't seen him compete really since
- 52:37then.
- 52:38And I was so happy to see him
- 52:39podium.
- 52:42Nick Matthew, Pat Vellner, Quinn Robinson,
- 52:45Quinn Robinson,
- 52:46who almost had a ticket at Syndicate in
- 52:49a stacked field there.
- 52:51Spencer Pancheck, Travis Mayer.
- 52:56With that list, how do you pick seven?
- 52:59Like if Noah's competing online,
- 53:02like Noah's is one I would pick in
- 53:05the top seven for sure.
- 53:08I think it's all how critical they are
- 53:10on judging.
- 53:14Noah rides that line.
- 53:16Yeah, he does,
- 53:17but he's so fast at all of those
- 53:21movements.
- 53:26Yeah, that's tough.
- 53:28Yoni will qualify if he's healthy.
- 53:30I believe that.
- 53:31I think so, too.
- 53:33I think Colton qualifies because he's
- 53:36great online.
- 53:37Yeah.
- 53:38Yeah, he might have one workout.
- 53:41That might not be great,
- 53:42but I see him having like four in
- 53:44the top five, you know?
- 53:46I think Spencer Pancheck's a great online
- 53:48competitor.
- 53:49Yep.
- 53:51Which would be cool because then four
- 53:52Panchecks would be at the games.
- 53:54I think Colin Bossart is a good online
- 53:56person as well.
- 54:00What about Harry Lightfoot?
- 54:03I don't know.
- 54:04He had a really good year last year,
- 54:06but I'm kind of wondering if it was
- 54:09just last year.
- 54:12And sometimes, you know,
- 54:15you had the right program or whatever.
- 54:18I'm not sure for him.
- 54:20I have a question mark for just Justin.
- 54:24I even a shoe in, in this list.
- 54:29Uh, so Ken for question mark.
- 54:32Yes.
- 54:33Two panchecks made it as masters,
- 54:35Kristen and Scott and Saxon made it as
- 54:38an elite.
- 54:38And if Spencer makes it,
- 54:39that would be four.
- 54:44Um, I don't think anyone's a shoe in.
- 54:47I know.
- 54:48I don't like that.
- 54:49So like,
- 54:49I think Justin is amazing online and in
- 54:52person too, but I just don't, like,
- 54:54I don't think anyone's a shoe in like
- 54:57everyone's good and it's going to be
- 55:00tough.
- 55:02And Justin Medeiros was a great,
- 55:04great CrossFit champion, but Jamie,
- 55:07I know this is a bugaboo of yours.
- 55:10He rides the line just like Noah.
- 55:12Yeah.
- 55:16So is he going,
- 55:18is he going to make it through unscathed
- 55:20and not get dinged by the judges?
- 55:23That is a huge factor in this.
- 55:25Agreed.
- 55:28And because of that, do you,
- 55:31do you make sure your range of motion
- 55:33is more than normal to prevent that?
- 55:37Does that slow you down too much?
- 55:41There's a, there's so many factors.
- 55:49I mean, if I'm picking,
- 55:50I'm going Medeiros, Pancek, Yona.
- 55:55Colton.
- 55:56Colton, for sure.
- 55:57Those four.
- 56:04Yep.
- 56:05Nick Matthew can be good online as well.
- 56:07He is good online too.
- 56:09He can do some damage there, yeah.
- 56:15yeah i don't know it's really like
- 56:18traditionally pat is someone who does
- 56:20awesome online as well yeah but he's he
- 56:27was one of the people that got dinged
- 56:28in the box step up thing yep like
- 56:31it can happen to anybody yeah soft knees
- 56:35all right let's look at the women which
- 56:40is an even longer list
- 56:43Alexis Raptus, Ariel Lowen,
- 56:45Caroline Stanley, Claudia Gluck,
- 56:47Elizabeth Wishart, Emily Rolfe,
- 56:49Grace Walton, Janie Chevery,
- 56:51Carissa Stapp, Lexi Neely, Mano Angones,
- 56:55Ada Ludden, sure, Rebecca Fusile,
- 56:59Reese Littlewood, Sydney McElishan,
- 57:01Sydney Wells, Trista Smith, Zoe Warren,
- 57:04Var Thurman-Mo, Taylor Howe, Sydney Smith,
- 57:07Riley Beebe, Rebecca Vitteson,
- 57:10Paige Semenza, Mathilde Garnes,
- 57:13Maddie Fouts, Leah Storen, Jennifer Muir,
- 57:16Hattie Cano, Fee Sagafi, Emily DeRoy,
- 57:20Elena Caratala, Carolyn Prevost,
- 57:23Burgos Bjorn's daughter, Andrea Solberg.
- 57:27Yeah, this is wild.
- 57:30Crazy amount of picks you can have out
- 57:34of that.
- 57:36I mean, I'd say...
- 57:37I don't think anyone's a shoo-in.
- 57:40I think the one that I am the
- 57:42most confident in is Ariel.
- 57:44Yeah.
- 57:45That's one that I'm the most confident in
- 57:49of this group that I feel like no
- 57:52matter what the program is,
- 57:55she finds a way.
- 57:58I agree.
- 57:59After that, it's tough to pick.
- 58:07Like Alexis, obviously too,
- 58:09is there as well.
- 58:10And then I think her back is good
- 58:12now.
- 58:13I think it's good.
- 58:14I think,
- 58:15I think she overheated it syndicate.
- 58:17Right.
- 58:17And being in her own gym and her
- 58:20own space, being able to redo, I think,
- 58:23I think she'll qualify online.
- 58:25She would be my second pick after Ariel
- 58:27as like,
- 58:28if there's a shoe in it's like those
- 58:30two.
- 58:32But man, that's tough.
- 58:35I'll tell you what,
- 58:36Janie Chevery really impressed me at
- 58:38Syndicate.
- 58:38Agreed.
- 58:39In person.
- 58:40Seeing her in person,
- 58:42like she's way fitter than I gave her
- 58:44credit for.
- 58:46Yeah, I kind of hope she makes it.
- 58:51I thought Rebecca Fusile's made some huge
- 58:54strides.
- 58:54She looks awesome too, yeah.
- 58:58Sounds like Fi and Alexis are doing them
- 59:00together.
- 59:00So that actually would probably be very
- 59:02helpful for them.
- 59:06I feel like Claudia Gluck has been so
- 59:08competitive all year and just not quite
- 59:11good enough.
- 59:13I mean,
- 59:14Leah Storen has been the person out twice
- 59:16as well.
- 59:19Andrea Solberg is a beast.
- 59:21Beast.
- 59:22And it's a beast online as well, too.
- 59:26And you are very good online too.
- 59:28I know you're not going to say that
- 59:30about yourself,
- 59:31but you are a very good online competitor.
- 59:33Yeah, there's not many machines and stuff.
- 59:42Avera is very confident in Carolyn.
- 59:44There's just so many people with different
- 59:48skill sets here that it can go any
- 59:52way.
- 59:53It can go any way.
- 59:57Do you think it's a huge advantage here
- 59:59to have a training camp that has like
- 1:00:00multiple people doing these workouts?
- 1:00:02Yes.
- 1:00:03Huge.
- 1:00:04Knowing scores,
- 1:00:05knowing if you have to redo,
- 1:00:07if you have like six people from proven
- 1:00:10together, just doing it.
- 1:00:11Yep.
- 1:00:12Like if you're just on your own,
- 1:00:13you have no idea if you have to
- 1:00:16redo, if this workout is good.
- 1:00:17Like when you're in a big camp like
- 1:00:19this,
- 1:00:20like this is when it matters to have
- 1:00:21a bunch of testers for you.
- 1:00:25And just comparison and already doing the
- 1:00:27math.
- 1:00:27Like, okay, she's beaten me in three,
- 1:00:30four, but this workout, okay.
- 1:00:32I have to do this one.
- 1:00:33This one,
- 1:00:34five people are beating me in this one.
- 1:00:36You know?
- 1:00:39Yeah.
- 1:00:40Yeah.
- 1:00:40I mean,
- 1:00:40even like Saxon said he was going to
- 1:00:43test for Spencer.
- 1:00:45Like if you have those people that have
- 1:00:47the fitness level you do to test,
- 1:00:50that's the key.
- 1:00:52Like,
- 1:00:52do you have someone that either
- 1:00:54specializes in that workout or has your
- 1:00:57fitness level that can test it for you?
- 1:01:05Yeah, it's definitely an advantage.
- 1:01:07But I think we're going to be surprised
- 1:01:11on Monday when the leaderboards release.
- 1:01:13I think so, too.
- 1:01:14I think there's going to be surprise on
- 1:01:15both sides.
- 1:01:18Yeah, it's going to...
- 1:01:21But I hate it.
- 1:01:22I hate it.
- 1:01:23This is all the drama I wanted at
- 1:01:28the in-person semifinals, regionals,
- 1:01:31whatever.
- 1:01:33And it's all online in the dark.
- 1:01:36How many people you think should be
- 1:01:39qualifying in this last stage,
- 1:01:41last chance qualifier, let's call it,
- 1:01:44and then give the other spots in person?
- 1:01:47Three?
- 1:01:47Yeah.
- 1:01:48So if I'm being completely honest,
- 1:01:51I don't think there should be a last
- 1:01:52chance.
- 1:01:54I don't mind the last chance for spots.
- 1:01:56It's more income for them.
- 1:01:58You get if you if you get a
- 1:02:00stacked field.
- 1:02:01It's just, you know, you but I Yeah,
- 1:02:05but if we have it, two tops.
- 1:02:09do you think it should be like a
- 1:02:10top two thousand in the quarterfinals or
- 1:02:14at each semi-final five people let's say
- 1:02:18the next five are all in that's what
- 1:02:20i like after the just those people last
- 1:02:24chance for two places or whatever but you
- 1:02:28can only do one semi-final in person not
- 1:02:31five
- 1:02:32one semifinal person,
- 1:02:34you pick the stacked one, well,
- 1:02:35you better finish within five places of a
- 1:02:37qualifying spot or something like that.
- 1:02:40If we go back to a regionally locked
- 1:02:42semifinal structure, then, okay,
- 1:02:46it makes sense to have a last chance,
- 1:02:48two spots.
- 1:02:49But I,
- 1:02:50but just like we did in like,
- 1:02:51was it twenty three where it was the
- 1:02:54five people that just missed from each
- 1:02:58region got to do the last chance.
- 1:03:05but I, I'm like,
- 1:03:09I watch a lot of sports.
- 1:03:10Like today I watched F one.
- 1:03:12That's my new jam.
- 1:03:15My driver, his battery died.
- 1:03:17He's out of the race.
- 1:03:20It's over.
- 1:03:21Like this race is over.
- 1:03:24You don't get to go into the garage
- 1:03:25and put together a new thing and get
- 1:03:27to go out again.
- 1:03:28It's done.
- 1:03:31When the Montreal Canadiens lost that
- 1:03:33series, they're done.
- 1:03:35There's no second chance.
- 1:03:38And that's what makes sports beautiful
- 1:03:40because it all is that drama about that
- 1:03:42one moment in time.
- 1:03:44I think it's hard to compare an individual
- 1:03:46sport to a team sport like that,
- 1:03:48like a playoff format.
- 1:03:51The French Open just concluded today.
- 1:03:55One tournament.
- 1:03:56They have multiple tournaments.
- 1:03:58for their qualifying.
- 1:04:00Well, we have Rogue, we have Waterpalooza,
- 1:04:02we have other events.
- 1:04:03That's true.
- 1:04:06It's not like your season's over.
- 1:04:08You get to go do these other things,
- 1:04:10qualify for them.
- 1:04:13Make more money at those places too,
- 1:04:14anyways.
- 1:04:15Yeah, you got the whole WFP thing now.
- 1:04:19Okay, true, true.
- 1:04:21Which them promoting Jason Ainsley to
- 1:04:23president was a brilliant move.
- 1:04:26Just saying.
- 1:04:28I know we're not going to do WFP
- 1:04:29tonight, but that was a good move.
- 1:04:33He's been the only coherent spokesman for
- 1:04:35them over the last year and a half,
- 1:04:39and he needs to be that going forward.
- 1:04:42Who was president?
- 1:04:43Was it Will?
- 1:04:44I don't know if there was a president.
- 1:04:46I don't know their structure to know.
- 1:04:50Some.
- 1:04:50And Ken Walters says we've got a Hyrox
- 1:04:52and Xenon thing, too.
- 1:05:00So anyway, there's that.
- 1:05:03To me, it's crazy.
- 1:05:05Again,
- 1:05:06I just miss getting to see all this
- 1:05:09drama on the floor.
- 1:05:12Yeah.
- 1:05:13Even when Syndicate had, what,
- 1:05:16fourteen qualifiers and Erica Folo
- 1:05:19couldn't finish that last dumbbell march
- 1:05:24to the end.
- 1:05:25Like,
- 1:05:25you're gutted because that was her last
- 1:05:28shot.
- 1:05:33And that happened at West Coast with
- 1:05:36people not able to finish that last run.
- 1:05:39That's where all the drama is,
- 1:05:40and that's what I miss.
- 1:05:44And you could even see it as the
- 1:05:46season progressed.
- 1:05:48The less opportunities they had,
- 1:05:51the more the pressure was on.
- 1:05:54So last weekend was the last in-person
- 1:05:56season.
- 1:05:57more people, more drama,
- 1:05:59because there was no other in-person to go
- 1:06:01to.
- 1:06:03It was that or you have to go
- 1:06:04online.
- 1:06:06And I think a lot of athletes are
- 1:06:07afraid of online.
- 1:06:20Anyway.
- 1:06:23So today...
- 1:06:26And next week,
- 1:06:26we will talk a lot about the online
- 1:06:29semis as they will be going on waiting
- 1:06:32for the leaderboard.
- 1:06:33When does it end?
- 1:06:34Does it end Sunday or Monday?
- 1:06:36Monday.
- 1:06:44Yeah.
- 1:06:44Dex wants to know why the hell everybody's
- 1:06:46terrified of online.
- 1:06:48Because when you ride the line all the
- 1:06:50time in person,
- 1:06:51the judge gives you immediate feedback.
- 1:06:54You don't get that online.
- 1:06:56And then if you get the penalty a
- 1:06:57week later,
- 1:06:59there's nothing you can do about it.
- 1:07:01Well,
- 1:07:01just the movements that can get programmed
- 1:07:04online are often cycle speed dependent.
- 1:07:08So that's the thing why I think it
- 1:07:09scares a lot of people.
- 1:07:10Because one,
- 1:07:11if it's cycle speed dependent,
- 1:07:13you are riding the line for sure.
- 1:07:15And then two, size matters.
- 1:07:18The programming will matter if they can
- 1:07:20offset it with something for a bigger
- 1:07:22person.
- 1:07:23But for the most part,
- 1:07:26most of the things that are online will
- 1:07:28favor a smaller athlete,
- 1:07:32except for world climbs.
- 1:07:34I mean,
- 1:07:37we have thirty and twenty pound wall balls
- 1:07:39here.
- 1:07:39I guess we'll see.
- 1:07:43But.
- 1:07:46Yeah, so you have the penalties,
- 1:07:48you have the range of motion.
- 1:07:50There's a few things, right, for that.
- 1:07:54You have just blatant cheating for some
- 1:07:56people.
- 1:07:56Yeah.
- 1:08:03Anyway,
- 1:08:05so today the Barbell Spin did a debate
- 1:08:07show with Seth Jumpship and Tyler Watkins
- 1:08:11about what the season needs to be.
- 1:08:17I started watching it.
- 1:08:18I didn't finish it.
- 1:08:20Well, it got repetitive.
- 1:08:22So if you made it halfway through,
- 1:08:24you've seen it all.
- 1:08:28What I'll say is like,
- 1:08:29I think Seth is on the right track,
- 1:08:32in my opinion.
- 1:08:35Seth is adamant that we need to go
- 1:08:36back to regionally locked.
- 1:08:38We need to get rid of invites to
- 1:08:40these events.
- 1:08:42Yes.
- 1:08:42They have to qualify from open
- 1:08:44quarterfinals to get to the events.
- 1:08:49The big debate came in with,
- 1:08:53can you trust affiliate owners to run that
- 1:08:58section of the competition,
- 1:09:00or does it need to go to big
- 1:09:02event coordinators?
- 1:09:08What I will say is,
- 1:09:12Seth made great points.
- 1:09:14CrossFit has messed up to the point where
- 1:09:18they have put the event coordinators in
- 1:09:22such a bad place that they are now
- 1:09:27leaving.
- 1:09:28Like, Wilson is leaving to go to Xenon.
- 1:09:30Yeah.
- 1:09:32Daniel Chaffee,
- 1:09:33and these are quotes from Seth, says,
- 1:09:35I take a bath every year on this.
- 1:09:38But just because I love the sport and
- 1:09:40love CrossFit, I do it.
- 1:09:42But how long is he going to do
- 1:09:43that?
- 1:09:46And we don't have anybody on the bench.
- 1:09:50Because CrossFit just always goes to the
- 1:09:52same people over and over again.
- 1:09:55Those are the only people that have the
- 1:09:57template to make it work.
- 1:09:58Right.
- 1:10:01And so if we don't give it out
- 1:10:03to maybe some bigger affiliate owners to
- 1:10:05do some things like this and grow them,
- 1:10:09we're gonna be in a lot of trouble
- 1:10:10in the future.
- 1:10:16So I agree that it should be regionally
- 1:10:20locked.
- 1:10:21I like that from before.
- 1:10:23I agree that it should be open to
- 1:10:25quarters to then you go to your regional
- 1:10:29law place.
- 1:10:31The problem is,
- 1:10:32is where do these people that are running
- 1:10:36this make their money?
- 1:10:38Right now, what's annoying,
- 1:10:39what's confusing is all these online
- 1:10:41qualifiers, right,
- 1:10:42that are even before the Open.
- 1:10:43But these people that are taking on these
- 1:10:46semifinals have no option because that's
- 1:10:48the money that's helping them
- 1:10:53you know, put these events on is,
- 1:10:56is their qualifiers and the registration
- 1:11:01fees.
- 1:11:02And then maybe some sponsors when they get
- 1:11:04there.
- 1:11:04Right.
- 1:11:05It's just,
- 1:11:05it's tough for them to ask the open
- 1:11:08and quarterfinals and then be like,
- 1:11:10Oh yeah, we'll run it for you.
- 1:11:12And I guess we don't have any money
- 1:11:14to,
- 1:11:14cause like they could do a separate
- 1:11:16qualifier just for other divisions.
- 1:11:18Then that becomes like,
- 1:11:20Also hard when you want to include teams
- 1:11:22in there as well in a three-day weekend.
- 1:11:26So it's just tough.
- 1:11:27But I think the right way to go
- 1:11:28is, and it should go,
- 1:11:30open quarters and then you qualify through
- 1:11:33to your semis.
- 1:11:34So I agree with that.
- 1:11:35I just don't know how people would take
- 1:11:38that on without any income coming just
- 1:11:40from the registration.
- 1:11:42I feel like they would probably upcharge
- 1:11:43their athletes all of a sudden,
- 1:11:45six hundred dollars.
- 1:11:46They'd have to.
- 1:11:47When there was a debate, too,
- 1:11:49that CrossFit may actually charge them for
- 1:11:51a licensing fee to run a CrossFit license.
- 1:11:55Now, that was not confirmed,
- 1:11:56so I don't know if that is true
- 1:11:58or not.
- 1:11:59They're going to rent these places out,
- 1:12:02find volunteers, all of that.
- 1:12:05They're relying on their qualifiers right
- 1:12:07now to make a lot of money.
- 1:12:12I'm not a huge proponent of the affiliate.
- 1:12:17Ed says there are no big affiliates.
- 1:12:20There are.
- 1:12:20There are a lot of big affiliates.
- 1:12:23But do they all want to do comps?
- 1:12:27You're assuming that every affiliate owner
- 1:12:30wants to jump in on this thing.
- 1:12:33A lot of affiliate owners probably don't
- 1:12:34want to shut down their gym for a
- 1:12:36few days for their own members that are
- 1:12:38paying and stuff like that.
- 1:12:40A lot of them might not want to
- 1:12:41do that.
- 1:12:42I agree.
- 1:12:43And Barry, yes,
- 1:12:43it costs a hundred dollars to do the
- 1:12:45online semifinals.
- 1:12:48I want to answer this Ortega is Wilson
- 1:12:50leaving.
- 1:12:50Is that why junior Jr helped with
- 1:12:52syndicate learning the rope ceremonial
- 1:12:54handing off the crown or take,
- 1:12:57I'm not saying that all I know is
- 1:13:00Wilson is now working for Xenon.
- 1:13:02That is a full-time job.
- 1:13:05Can he do both?
- 1:13:06I don't know.
- 1:13:07You'd have to ask him, but I,
- 1:13:12If he's losing money on the Syndicate
- 1:13:14Crown and Xenom is offering him a lot
- 1:13:19of money to come work with them,
- 1:13:21isn't that a better option for him?
- 1:13:24And CrossFit did nothing to entice him to
- 1:13:27stay.
- 1:13:28I think if you regionally lock and
- 1:13:30Syndicate Crown gets the East in the U.S.,
- 1:13:33he's all in again.
- 1:13:35Because he knows who the lineup's going to
- 1:13:37be.
- 1:13:38He doesn't have to do invites and watch
- 1:13:41cancellations and withdrawals and do all
- 1:13:43this stuff and then backfill and all of
- 1:13:45that.
- 1:13:46When you have the regional locked,
- 1:13:49you just get your list.
- 1:13:50Yeah.
- 1:13:51And it doesn't change because there are no
- 1:13:53other options for those athletes.
- 1:13:59CrossFit has put the event organizers in a
- 1:14:01very bad position.
- 1:14:03Yep.
- 1:14:05no funding, do it on your own.
- 1:14:08And we're not even going to let you
- 1:14:10determine who your athletes are until the
- 1:14:12last minute.
- 1:14:14That's why I think these event organizers
- 1:14:15should just pull out.
- 1:14:18Like they need to put CrossFit in the
- 1:14:20tough spot.
- 1:14:21Like, yeah, we're not doing that for you.
- 1:14:23CrossFit's not going to do that.
- 1:14:25And I guess there's no season.
- 1:14:26I guess it's all online.
- 1:14:27I don't know.
- 1:14:28They need to figure it out.
- 1:14:29They need to realize.
- 1:14:30That's what I'm saying.
- 1:14:30Like for CrossFit,
- 1:14:33For CrossFit, online makes sense.
- 1:14:36It's zero money for them to run that.
- 1:14:38They can pay some judges to judge.
- 1:14:41The in-person is for the athletes that
- 1:14:43want that, but besides the games,
- 1:14:47they could go online the whole season if
- 1:14:49they really wanted to.
- 1:14:52If no one is taking on the finals,
- 1:14:54they really could.
- 1:14:57It's not really a good sport, but
- 1:15:01financially it makes the most sense for
- 1:15:03them makes us makes the most short-term
- 1:15:07financial success long term you might as
- 1:15:09well just close up shop yeah focus i
- 1:15:16mean yeah and that's that is the problem
- 1:15:18we have with whoever is the decision maker
- 1:15:21at crossfit whether it's the board whether
- 1:15:24it's the the two people that everybody
- 1:15:26mentions or whether it's now going to be
- 1:15:28bruce i don't know
- 1:15:30But you need a long-term vision,
- 1:15:33not a short-term.
- 1:15:35And that's all we've had for six years
- 1:15:39has been short-term vision.
- 1:15:40I agree.
- 1:15:49And so the old adage,
- 1:15:51you got to spend money to make money.
- 1:15:53Right.
- 1:15:54Or you get that Reebok money.
- 1:15:59In all seriousness,
- 1:16:00Reebok set us up for a bad spot.
- 1:16:04Because everybody got spoiled with the
- 1:16:08regional days being funded by Reebok.
- 1:16:10Yeah.
- 1:16:14And now we don't have the funds to
- 1:16:16do it.
- 1:16:17And the vendors are pulling out more and
- 1:16:21more frequently.
- 1:16:22Yeah.
- 1:16:23Unless you can do a community event like
- 1:16:24NorCal.
- 1:16:24They're upcharging the vendors so much
- 1:16:26too, though.
- 1:16:27They are.
- 1:16:28And then there's no one in the stands
- 1:16:29to buy their stuff,
- 1:16:30so why would vendors bring their stuff
- 1:16:34there when no one wants to buy anything
- 1:16:36because the price was X, Y,
- 1:16:38and Z to enter and register and you
- 1:16:42have no one coming to watch?
- 1:16:44We talked about this, but more vendors,
- 1:16:48more people, more shopping.
- 1:16:50I don't know.
- 1:16:52It's short term.
- 1:16:54They're just milking the cows that have
- 1:16:56been there forever.
- 1:16:57Vendors, spectators, athletes.
- 1:17:02Those are their sources of revenue.
- 1:17:06They're not looking for sponsorships.
- 1:17:07They're not looking for partnerships.
- 1:17:09They're not looking for anything else or
- 1:17:11any other way to be creative about how
- 1:17:14to make money.
- 1:17:17It's the same old stuff and all they're
- 1:17:19doing is upping the price on all of
- 1:17:21them.
- 1:17:24And it's already started happening where
- 1:17:27people just aren't going to pay it
- 1:17:28anymore.
- 1:17:32And so they're bailing.
- 1:17:40And Barry says it as well as anybody.
- 1:17:43We went from Reebok to Valit Test to
- 1:17:46Northern Spirit.
- 1:17:46To Jim Reapers.
- 1:17:52What is this year?
- 1:17:53Is it Belitos?
- 1:17:53I thought it was Belitos.
- 1:17:54I think it is,
- 1:17:54but I think it might be back to
- 1:17:55Belitos.
- 1:17:59But to expect one big company to come
- 1:18:02in and just throw cash at CrossFit,
- 1:18:06it's not going to happen.
- 1:18:08They have to build this up from the
- 1:18:10bottom again because they have screwed the
- 1:18:14pooch.
- 1:18:24Without geofencing regions,
- 1:18:25entire gyms aren't going to show up to
- 1:18:26a regional semi.
- 1:18:27Hell, that's how we met, Scott.
- 1:18:29Maximus in its entirety was at that
- 1:18:31regional and all of them.
- 1:18:33That's never coming back.
- 1:18:34And even if you go back to that,
- 1:18:36it's not coming back.
- 1:18:39We don't have as many affiliates as we
- 1:18:41did then.
- 1:18:42The whole ecosystem is smaller now.
- 1:18:50There needs to be a new vision for
- 1:18:52long-term success, not short-term funds.
- 1:19:02If I was closer and didn't have to
- 1:19:05fly to California for that,
- 1:19:07people from my gym would have come watch
- 1:19:08me.
- 1:19:09I can tell you that.
- 1:19:11We are missing the regional model.
- 1:19:13It may not come back in full,
- 1:19:15but if you could bring it back to
- 1:19:16that, people would come watch.
- 1:19:20Yeah, driving distance is huge.
- 1:19:22Like people, you know,
- 1:19:24I'll pack in a car,
- 1:19:26drive to go and watch.
- 1:19:28But again,
- 1:19:29the prices can't be ridiculous for the
- 1:19:32whole weekend.
- 1:19:33Right.
- 1:19:33Like you make it so it's freaking packed
- 1:19:35and it looks great.
- 1:19:38And people will buy things and vendors
- 1:19:41will want to be there because there's
- 1:19:42people there.
- 1:19:44If you charge too much,
- 1:19:45there's no one that's coming to watch.
- 1:19:47They will watch it on YouTube.
- 1:19:50They will watch it for free on YouTube.
- 1:19:53Seth jumps in the chat.
- 1:19:56I already quoted you a bunch, Seth,
- 1:19:57so you missed that part.
- 1:20:05And Ortega wants some positives.
- 1:20:07Here's the positives.
- 1:20:09We have a new CEO.
- 1:20:11We don't know what the vision of that
- 1:20:13is.
- 1:20:13We don't know whether he has that ability
- 1:20:18to have a long-term outlook into where
- 1:20:21we're going.
- 1:20:22We don't know that,
- 1:20:24but it is a possibility now.
- 1:20:28Because he's been around a long time and
- 1:20:30he understands the ecosystem.
- 1:20:32He understands how it all works.
- 1:20:35And so if anybody's going to do it,
- 1:20:37it's going to be him.
- 1:20:39The other thing is we have Seth on
- 1:20:41the CAC.
- 1:20:42Seth is taking all this back.
- 1:20:44Seth is doing these things to tell
- 1:20:47CrossFit what needs to happen,
- 1:20:50what should happen,
- 1:20:51how the athletes feel about what's
- 1:20:53happening.
- 1:20:54And if you listen to Seth,
- 1:20:56he has a very level head about all
- 1:20:59of this.
- 1:21:00So if you want a representative on the
- 1:21:02CAC that's going to get this stuff done,
- 1:21:05it's him.
- 1:21:19Yeah.
- 1:21:19I still think if you do regional locked,
- 1:21:24you make it not as expensive as it
- 1:21:27is so that all of these cars and
- 1:21:29affiliates and friends come and watch.
- 1:21:36It has to be a decent price that
- 1:21:40they're willing to watch and pay for
- 1:21:42things inside.
- 1:21:45The money will start coming.
- 1:21:48Because if I ask people to come and
- 1:21:49watch me and they'll drive a few hours
- 1:21:51and stay at a hotel,
- 1:21:52they do not want to pay.
- 1:21:53They won't pay.
- 1:21:55Three hundred dollars for the weekend.
- 1:21:57And then they're not going to buy anything
- 1:21:58from the sponsors and the sponsors don't
- 1:22:00want to come.
- 1:22:01It's the same thing every time.
- 1:22:03And then we have less and less sponsors
- 1:22:05at each one because they're getting
- 1:22:06charged ten to fifteen thousand to have a
- 1:22:08booth there for a hundred people that
- 1:22:11don't even want to buy anything.
- 1:22:16Right.
- 1:22:16Regionals were affordable.
- 1:22:19You could go and then, like Shanna says,
- 1:22:24the vendors were selling out of stuff.
- 1:22:26Always.
- 1:22:27In the regional days.
- 1:22:29That's why.
- 1:22:31So here's my proposal.
- 1:22:33Regional locked semifinals.
- 1:22:38The part I don't understand is where it's
- 1:22:40going to be.
- 1:22:41Seth says affiliate owners,
- 1:22:43give them the opportunity.
- 1:22:45I'm okay with that.
- 1:22:48Then make teams six-person again where you
- 1:22:53can substitute two in.
- 1:22:55Now you're building your teams bigger,
- 1:22:57the affiliates are more invested,
- 1:23:00and they'll bring more people to the venue
- 1:23:02to watch those athletes compete.
- 1:23:07And it gives more people hope in the
- 1:23:10affiliate that they can be a member of
- 1:23:12that team someday.
- 1:23:13Right.
- 1:23:13Our masters at these comps.
- 1:23:16I don't even want to get into that
- 1:23:17yet because that complicates everything.
- 1:23:19Then you need to lower the ticket price
- 1:23:23to fill the place.
- 1:23:26Not thinking that raising them is going to
- 1:23:28make you more money.
- 1:23:29Think about lowering the prices and get
- 1:23:31more people there and you're going to make
- 1:23:33money by volume, not by amount.
- 1:23:38Because then sponsors look at pictures and
- 1:23:41videos of the event and they're like,
- 1:23:43look at how packed this is.
- 1:23:46I'm gonna invest because the demand is
- 1:23:49there.
- 1:23:50People are interested.
- 1:23:51Right now,
- 1:23:52if you're a sponsor and you're looking at
- 1:23:54the stands on a lot of the comps
- 1:23:55and they're empty and you're like, no,
- 1:24:01it's not that popular.
- 1:24:01It's not as popular as it once was
- 1:24:03because when you compare it to what it
- 1:24:04once was, just how empty it looks,
- 1:24:06you're like, it's just decreasing.
- 1:24:07I'm not gonna waste my sponsorship there.
- 1:24:10But if you make it look full,
- 1:24:13people I think would wanna invest.
- 1:24:16And you as an athlete,
- 1:24:18you can brand yourself better showing you
- 1:24:21in a stadium full of people,
- 1:24:22especially if you're on a team.
- 1:24:23That looks cool.
- 1:24:24Then you go to local sponsorships and they
- 1:24:26can help support you.
- 1:24:29Lower the vendor fee too.
- 1:24:31Marketing wise.
- 1:24:32Lower the vendor fee too.
- 1:24:34So you get more of them.
- 1:24:36The more they make money,
- 1:24:37the more they will come back.
- 1:24:39And what I liked about NorCal and they
- 1:24:41did it well.
- 1:24:42And like last year at the masters
- 1:24:43semifinals, it was horrible,
- 1:24:45but you have to walk through the vendor
- 1:24:46village to go to your stands.
- 1:24:49Like you have to,
- 1:24:50you have to force people to go through
- 1:24:51the vendor village.
- 1:24:53You can't have a vendor village way off
- 1:24:54to the side where people can just enter
- 1:24:57and go right to their seat and leave
- 1:24:59because those vendors are purchasing a
- 1:25:01place,
- 1:25:02but there's not any volume that's being
- 1:25:05sent to them.
- 1:25:07You have to put them in a location
- 1:25:09at these events that people are walking
- 1:25:12through it all the time.
- 1:25:14You have to help the vendors out.
- 1:25:16These vendors are still paying money to
- 1:25:19help support and you shaft them and put
- 1:25:21them in the corner.
- 1:25:23Like, that's another reason.
- 1:25:25You know who is awesome at vendors?
- 1:25:26Waterpalooza.
- 1:25:29Waterpalooza,
- 1:25:29you had to walk through them to get
- 1:25:30in.
- 1:25:32I haven't been to the new Miami Beach
- 1:25:34one and
- 1:25:36But I've heard that the SoCal one,
- 1:25:38you have to walk through vendor village to
- 1:25:40get into the venue.
- 1:25:47Spectators bring the energy.
- 1:25:48That's what makes the memorable moments.
- 1:25:50A three tent snatch is way more exciting
- 1:25:52in a packed affiliate with people
- 1:25:54screaming than an empty stadium.
- 1:26:02And for Jamie,
- 1:26:02doing fifty unbroken toes to bar is way
- 1:26:05more exciting in a packed house than in
- 1:26:08an empty arena.
- 1:26:11But I think like the different people that
- 1:26:14have been doing the broadcast and stuff
- 1:26:16like that's also ways that they can be
- 1:26:19saving money from how they used to do
- 1:26:20regionals.
- 1:26:21Like the price that they used to pay
- 1:26:23for the broadcast and stuff is like a
- 1:26:25crazy amount.
- 1:26:26And now you're having people in the space
- 1:26:28that are able to do it for way
- 1:26:30less of a price.
- 1:26:32And they're doing a very good job at
- 1:26:33it, too.
- 1:26:34Um, so like,
- 1:26:36that's a big cost savings that from the
- 1:26:39regional days,
- 1:26:40that was too much from before,
- 1:26:41from on CrossFit.
- 1:26:42So, I mean,
- 1:26:43you can still have these third party media
- 1:26:46be involved in,
- 1:26:48in different things there and pumping out
- 1:26:50content of the weekend.
- 1:26:55Or take it says that's because it was,
- 1:26:57it was run by a festival company.
- 1:26:58That's what they do.
- 1:27:00Take the template.
- 1:27:02Seth said that a lot today in that
- 1:27:04debate show,
- 1:27:05take the template and start using it.
- 1:27:12But I also think like what's confusing
- 1:27:14also right now is like you have semifinal
- 1:27:17leaderboards like on competition corner
- 1:27:19instead of the CrossFit games website.
- 1:27:23And then some of them are on Strength
- 1:27:25Compete or Compete Strength.
- 1:27:27Which one was Mayhem using?
- 1:27:31A different one, anyways.
- 1:27:32And then you have another region that's
- 1:27:34using something else.
- 1:27:35It's really hard to just follow the
- 1:27:37leaderboard and where these broadcasts are
- 1:27:40being done.
- 1:27:40Everything should be through the CrossFit
- 1:27:42Games website.
- 1:27:43It's like,
- 1:27:43this region is hopping right now.
- 1:27:45Here's a YouTube link.
- 1:27:47And then like attach the leaderboard right
- 1:27:49there for all of the events.
- 1:27:51They should all be using the same
- 1:27:53leaderboard like app or whatever.
- 1:27:55The CrossFit Games one.
- 1:27:56Like right now you just have everything
- 1:27:59everywhere.
- 1:28:00And it's so confusing for the fans,
- 1:28:03for the athletes.
- 1:28:04Like where's your leaderboard?
- 1:28:06Where are you?
- 1:28:06Where can you watch it?
- 1:28:08Like if you're,
- 1:28:08if where was the qualifier?
- 1:28:10Like everything's just all over on the
- 1:28:12internet.
- 1:28:13Like the,
- 1:28:14people are missing opportunities to
- 1:28:15compete because they didn't know the
- 1:28:16qualifier was going on because if they
- 1:28:18didn't follow that Instagram page,
- 1:28:19they missed it.
- 1:28:21Like it's just, everything's everywhere.
- 1:28:22It all needs to be on the game's
- 1:28:25site.
- 1:28:27Clearly marked like YouTube link times,
- 1:28:32all of that oversight.
- 1:28:34It's just everywhere.
- 1:28:35Like we just don't know what's happening.
- 1:28:37Like you have different comps happening
- 1:28:39all over.
- 1:28:40oversight and a central location to get
- 1:28:43all your information.
- 1:28:44I am pulling this up just because it's
- 1:28:48a good memory for me.
- 1:28:49What makes memories for me is Seth telling
- 1:28:51me out of pace and me sending it
- 1:28:52anyway.
- 1:28:54That is the reason I was in Travis
- 1:28:55Williams Lane every time he took the floor
- 1:28:59at Syndicate.
- 1:29:00Because Travis went out five thousand
- 1:29:02miles per hour and you knew the wheels
- 1:29:04were going to come off and it was
- 1:29:07just entertaining watching that.
- 1:29:10But those are the characters we've had.
- 1:29:14And you learned those people through
- 1:29:16regionals and all of that stuff because
- 1:29:19they were the local guy that you always
- 1:29:21watched.
- 1:29:23But that's why we've lost a lot of
- 1:29:25our athletes to high rocks because right
- 1:29:27now it's not attainable for a lot of
- 1:29:29these affiliate athletes to make a
- 1:29:31semifinal in person and they want to
- 1:29:34compete at a big event.
- 1:29:35So now they're not good enough for
- 1:29:37CrossFit.
- 1:29:38So then they're all just jumping and doing
- 1:29:40local high rocks events.
- 1:29:43Cause that's like,
- 1:29:44it's their competitive outlet that they
- 1:29:45get to do and get pictures and it's
- 1:29:48fun and it's a hard workout.
- 1:29:51But like, if you made semifinals,
- 1:29:53like it's still so it's, I mean,
- 1:29:54semi being a semifinal athlete used to be
- 1:29:57like, it's hard to do,
- 1:29:59especially when it was regionally locked
- 1:30:00and stuff, but like,
- 1:30:02especially for affiliates, right.
- 1:30:03So the affiliate team,
- 1:30:04the individual is extremely hard,
- 1:30:05but like make the affiliate team able to
- 1:30:07compete and,
- 1:30:09And I think you can bring back some
- 1:30:10of the young athletes in our community,
- 1:30:12because right now, I mean,
- 1:30:14there's a lot of it's like thirty and
- 1:30:16above.
- 1:30:19Seamus says they need to put together
- 1:30:20packages,
- 1:30:21discount block hotels like a wedding,
- 1:30:23preferred airline with a promo code,
- 1:30:26coupon books for the city, et cetera.
- 1:30:30But the thing with cities, Seema,
- 1:30:33is you have to prove to them that
- 1:30:35they're going to get an ROI for their
- 1:30:37involvement with you.
- 1:30:39And I know Knoxville was working with the
- 1:30:41syndicate crown,
- 1:30:43and I know last year they didn't get
- 1:30:45the crowd they were expecting.
- 1:30:47They didn't get the ROI that they were
- 1:30:48expecting.
- 1:30:50So what does that mean long term?
- 1:30:54I don't know.
- 1:30:59So...
- 1:31:05um anyway all right the other thing going
- 1:31:09on this weekend is teams don't know much
- 1:31:11about it because we can't see it uh
- 1:31:14but their last spots are being determined
- 1:31:16this weekend tomorrow that the leaderboard
- 1:31:19will go live and we'll see what teams
- 1:31:22have made it tomorrow how many qualify
- 1:31:24online i think
- 1:31:29I don't even it's not that many.
- 1:31:31Because there's only twenty teams.
- 1:31:32Yeah, one of the games.
- 1:31:35It's total.
- 1:31:36It might be seven.
- 1:31:37Also, I don't might be.
- 1:31:39Yeah, I think I think it's seven.
- 1:31:45I just I'm not one hundred percent on
- 1:31:47that.
- 1:31:53So anyway.
- 1:31:56With that, guys, it's been a fun,
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- 1:32:02of the Elite Semifinals online.
- 1:32:05Hopefully some people go live.
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- 1:32:13point, but it'd be cool if they did.
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