Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 4 December
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Is the bold perform it.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Tonight meet the Chinese tycoon who's pub chained here banned
- 0:18Speaker 2: Australia day, and then see how soft he is on China.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Plus exposing the fake claims of climate change Minister Chris
- 0:26Speaker 2: Bowen as his green energy revolution collapses and some Australians
- 0:31Speaker 2: climate scientists say their work makes them scream and burst
- 0:35Speaker 2: into tears? Are these the kind of people bone relies on?
- 0:41Speaker 2: And the government stabs Israel in the back again in
- 0:43Speaker 2: the United Nations rewarding terrorism. Going to call out two
- 0:46Speaker 2: labor ministers who should know better but are too cowardly
- 0:49Speaker 2: to speak against what their immoral government is doing, But
- 0:53Speaker 2: first utter today's shocking growth figures. We can now call
- 0:58Speaker 2: it the Albanize governments. Big socialists dreams are over. It's
- 1:02Speaker 2: crashed all the big plans they had to make us
- 1:05Speaker 2: richer and greener. Total disaster everywhere you look. Even the
- 1:10Speaker 2: treasurers today had to admit, historically speaking, is that live
- 1:13Speaker 2: in an economy with pathetic growth?
- 1:16Speaker 3: Today's national accounts confirm that growth in the Australian economy
- 1:20Speaker 3: continues to be positive, but it's weak growth at just
- 1:24Speaker 3: zero point three percent in the quarter and zero point
- 1:27Speaker 3: eight percent through the year is below historical averages and
- 1:31Speaker 3: its below market expectations as well.
- 1:35Speaker 2: But it's much worse than that. I'm sure the economy
- 1:38Speaker 2: is growing a little, but that's really because this government
- 1:41Speaker 2: is important a crazy one and a half million immigrants.
- 1:44Speaker 2: That divide the economic poyer among the extra mounts and
- 1:47Speaker 2: you will find that for the last twenty one months
- 1:50Speaker 2: Australians have got poorer per person you take disposable income.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Using that figure, Australians on average are eight point seven
- 1:57Speaker 2: percent poorer than they were that Anthony Albanz he became
- 2:01Speaker 2: Prime minister. That is astonishing.
- 2:05Speaker 4: There are families at the moment who will go home
- 2:07Speaker 4: tonight sitting around a kitchen table, not knowing how they're
- 2:10Speaker 4: going to pay the power bill, not knowing whether they
- 2:12Speaker 4: can keep their insurance cover for their car or for
- 2:15Speaker 4: their business. And this is a tough time for Australian
- 2:18Speaker 4: families and the government can sugarcoat all they want, but
- 2:21Speaker 4: the fact is, as the Reserve Bank governor keeps pointing out,
- 2:24Speaker 4: it's the government's reckless spending that drives up inflation and
- 2:28Speaker 4: therefore keeps interest rates high for longer.
- 2:30Speaker 2: It's Albanizer revolution was meant to be so different. Oh
- 2:33Speaker 2: the dreams that he and the socialists left Warrior and
- 2:38Speaker 2: his bunch of Ori Delog's hand just two and a
- 2:40Speaker 2: half years ago. When they came into office, they were
- 2:42Speaker 2: going to do what few before had tried. That's because
- 2:46Speaker 2: what they were going to do, stupid Albanese was going
- 2:49Speaker 2: to lift real wages by simply forcing bosses to pay
- 2:52Speaker 2: workers more, either by law or by giving the unions
- 2:55Speaker 2: more muscle treasure. Jim Chalmers, he was going to reinvent
- 3:00Speaker 2: no less boasing, to create a new values based capitalism.
- 3:05Speaker 3: How do we get investment and capital flowing into the
- 3:08Speaker 3: areas that we know will strengthen our economy and make
- 3:11Speaker 3: it poor productive.
- 3:13Speaker 2: But Charmer's new capitalism actually turned out to be old socialism.
- 3:16Speaker 2: He just blew more billions of what he now calls investments,
- 3:21Speaker 2: especially green energy. And speaking of that energy, minister, Chris Bone,
- 3:26Speaker 2: he was going to get rid of coal and power
- 3:29Speaker 2: our economy with wind and solar power instead. And it
- 3:33Speaker 2: was even going to cut your.
- 3:34Speaker 5: Bills, reducing power prices by totald and seventy five dollars
- 3:38Speaker 5: by twenty thirty. Stand by the modeling that we released
- 3:41Speaker 5: pre election, which informed that that statement two seventy five.
- 3:46Speaker 5: By twenty twenty five, we stand by that.
- 3:49Speaker 2: And then the Immigration Minister Andrew Jarles he was going
- 3:52Speaker 2: to throw open our doors to the biggest invasion of
- 3:55Speaker 2: immigrants yet seen and would be so glad of it.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And it stuns me that this insane agenda was heavent
- 4:02Speaker 2: ever taken seriously. It's like trusting a plumber to do
- 4:06Speaker 2: open heart surgery. In fact, yeah, very much so. We
- 4:12Speaker 2: entrusted our twenty first century economy to a prime minister,
- 4:16Speaker 2: a treasurer and an energy minister whose private sector experience
- 4:20Speaker 2: together amounted to eight weeks at a McDonald's and a
- 4:24Speaker 2: short stint after school at a bank, and our look
- 4:28Speaker 2: wreckage everywhere. Albanies. He making businesses pay higher wages without
- 4:33Speaker 2: workers working smarter just meant our productivities now down the
- 4:36Speaker 2: toilet bones. Global warming crusade helped ramp electricity prices so
- 4:41Speaker 2: high that one hundred and thirty thousand Australians are now
- 4:44Speaker 2: on energy hardship repayment plans. New so Bar's residents were
- 4:48Speaker 2: even told last week switch off your appliances on this
- 4:51Speaker 2: warm day because solar power is fading.
- 4:54Speaker 6: If you can not run your pool filter, not run
- 4:57Speaker 6: your dishwasher, not run your washing machine afternoon.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Andrew Jiles's mass immigration that caused a terrible housing shortage.
- 5:06Speaker 2: But it is Jim Charmers if today looks be clowned.
- 5:10Speaker 2: This huge spending has added to the inflation that's making
- 5:13Speaker 2: us poor. It's also set us up for what Charmers
- 5:15Speaker 2: has admitted will be ten straight years from now of
- 5:18Speaker 2: budget deficits. Now, yes, Austram Bureau Statistics today did say
- 5:24Speaker 2: the spending spree is large reason why this economy still
- 5:27Speaker 2: grew just in the last quarter and they just zero
- 5:32Speaker 2: point eight percent for the year. It's government pump priming,
- 5:36Speaker 2: but we have to pay that money back. And what
- 5:39Speaker 2: a distortion that government's spending by Charmers in the States
- 5:42Speaker 2: has created. I mean, just look where most of the
- 5:45Speaker 2: extra jobs created in the past year have been, as
- 5:47Speaker 2: I showed you last night, in healthcare administration and support services,
- 5:52Speaker 2: public administration, and education. These are all areas where jobs
- 5:57Speaker 2: are particularly created by government spending money that must be
- 6:01Speaker 2: created by people somewhere else. Then look at where there's
- 6:05Speaker 2: been the biggest job losses, manufacturing construction, professional, scientific and
- 6:11Speaker 2: technical services. These are the sectors that actually make, build,
- 6:14Speaker 2: and invent the stuff that creates our wealth. And the
- 6:17Speaker 2: biggest job losses of all, of course in hospitality, but
- 6:20Speaker 2: that's no surprise. Poorer people don't go out as much,
- 6:24Speaker 2: do they? Reality has hit us. How could anyone have
- 6:31Speaker 2: thought that alban Easy and his dreamers could power this
- 6:35Speaker 2: modern economy of flickering the electricity from wind towers and
- 6:38Speaker 2: solar panels. How could anyone have seriously believed that making
- 6:43Speaker 2: it harder for bosses would actually make businesses stronger, or
- 6:47Speaker 2: that socialist levels of spending and charmers picking winners to
- 6:52Speaker 2: invest in would give us a go ahead economy. I
- 6:57Speaker 2: know the government's poasting. It's issued a bucket of bandages
- 7:00Speaker 2: to us to try to stem the bleeding, like the
- 7:03Speaker 2: rebates at tanding out its compensation for the huge rises
- 7:06Speaker 2: and electricity prices. But you see through that that's just
- 7:09Speaker 2: money taken from one pocket to put in another, and
- 7:12Speaker 2: all while we're on a sinking ship. That the Albanezy
- 7:16Speaker 2: experiment has failed. Two poles that agents show how tough
- 7:25Speaker 2: mini strands are now doing it. An Australian National University
- 7:28Speaker 2: poll found just thirty eight percent of voters of confidence
- 7:31Speaker 2: in the government. One third set it was harder getting
- 7:34Speaker 2: buy on their income. A similar result in a survey
- 7:37Speaker 2: for the Master Builders. One in three Australians are going
- 7:40Speaker 2: without essentials like food, like medicine, education for the kids,
- 7:45Speaker 2: to pay their rent or mortgage. Joining me is a
- 7:50Speaker 2: political panel cameraon Milner, former Chief of Stuff with Labor
- 7:52Speaker 2: leader Bill Shorten, now director of g xo's strategies, and
- 7:56Speaker 2: Michael Costs, the former New South Wales Labor Treasurer Michael
- 8:00Speaker 2: growth over the year of just zero point eight percent.
- 8:03Speaker 2: When you divide the of course by the extra a
- 8:05Speaker 2: mounths we've imported factor in inflation, we've actually gone even poorer. Again,
- 8:10Speaker 2: how bad are things?
- 8:12Speaker 7: I think that things are tremendously difficult for everybody in
- 8:16Speaker 7: the community and there is no expectation, given the policy
- 8:19Speaker 7: settings of this government, that they will improve. And Andrew,
- 8:23Speaker 7: the most horrific thing today I saw was those productivity figures.
- 8:26Speaker 7: They absolutely went backwards. You know, we had some anemic
- 8:30Speaker 7: growth in the last two quarters, but now we've gone
- 8:32Speaker 7: negative again. And the problem we face is that, you know,
- 8:36Speaker 7: we've got a government that doesn't understand the link between
- 8:39Speaker 7: productivity and prosperity. You know, you've got labor market reforms,
- 8:44Speaker 7: you know, unwinding the whole keeping achievements that set two
- 8:49Speaker 7: decades of prosperity up to three decades of prosperity up,
- 8:54Speaker 7: and we're facing structural rigidity in the labor market. Look,
- 8:58Speaker 7: this government reminds me of the sort of roll Doll's
- 9:01Speaker 7: enormous crocodile. It's just full of secret plans and clever
- 9:04Speaker 7: tricks to try and weasel its way out of the
- 9:07Speaker 7: mess that it's created. And we know it's got secret
- 9:09Speaker 7: plans because it's you know, talked about negative gearing, it's
- 9:12Speaker 7: talked about this nature positive that's still on the agenda,
- 9:16Speaker 7: it hasn't been written off. And of course the energy fiasco.
- 9:20Speaker 7: So we've got a government that's out of control, a
- 9:22Speaker 7: treasurer that you know writes about reforming capitalism but doesn't
- 9:25Speaker 7: seem to understand that it's based on prosperity. We've got inflation,
- 9:29Speaker 7: and let's not forget this. The inflation rate went up,
- 9:32Speaker 7: the underlying the trimming went up in the last figures.
- 9:35Speaker 7: Yet we've still got you know, growth a stagnant and
- 9:39Speaker 7: what that means is, you know, we could face some
- 9:41Speaker 7: sort of stagflation crisis, you know, the worst of both
- 9:45Speaker 7: possible worlds.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Look, look, Cameron, I understand that you're a fan of
- 9:53Speaker 2: Jim Charmers, not so much of Anthony Evin Easy, But
- 9:56Speaker 2: I have to say Chamas always has his excuses when
- 9:59Speaker 2: he has to announce spad figures. You know, it's the
- 10:01Speaker 2: rations chainer, it's overseas instability, it's the liberals. Here are
- 10:06Speaker 2: his excuses.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Today it's weighed down by interest rates and cost of
- 10:11Speaker 3: living pressures and global economic uncertainty.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Now, once, as he said, it's my fault, I've got
- 10:17Speaker 2: to change policies. Voters buying this well, I think the
- 10:24Speaker 2: polls say they aren't.
- 10:24Speaker 8: Andrew Harmon, these numbers are diabolical for labor. They are
- 10:28Speaker 8: one way and one way only, and they're all bad,
- 10:30Speaker 8: all bad for labor. As I wrote the other week,
- 10:33Speaker 8: I don't think this Parliament's coming back. I don't think
- 10:35Speaker 8: we're going to get a budget from Jim Chalmers because
- 10:36Speaker 8: I think the numbers, if they were crystallized in March,
- 10:39Speaker 8: would pritually prove just how bad things really are for voters.
- 10:42Speaker 2: So Alboy's going to after.
- 10:43Speaker 8: Smoke screen to Christmas, try to rush to the polls,
- 10:45Speaker 8: hope that post Trump can get re elected somehow in
- 10:48Speaker 8: a minority. But no, these numbers are diabolical.
- 10:51Speaker 2: And I feel for Jim.
- 10:52Speaker 8: I mean, he's got a front, an awful government with
- 10:54Speaker 8: an awful set of numbers.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is also his fault too. I've got
- 10:59Speaker 2: to say, I've really got to say here, I'm afraid
- 11:03Speaker 2: interest rate cut. You know, I've heard some you know,
- 11:07Speaker 2: kind of say today Michael, well, because the economy is
- 11:11Speaker 2: so bad, the Reserve will be forced to cut interest
- 11:15Speaker 2: rates to give it a kick along. But the point
- 11:17Speaker 2: is you've got pretty high employment, and of course it's
- 11:22Speaker 2: main mandate is to stop inflation. I do not see
- 11:27Speaker 2: interest rates being cut given that inflation is still so high.
- 11:31Speaker 7: What do you say, Well, I think the trim mean,
- 11:34Speaker 7: the figure that they look at went up last quarter.
- 11:37Speaker 7: So look, if they're consistent, and it's hard to predict
- 11:40Speaker 7: the Preserve Bank and what pressure may well be put
- 11:42Speaker 7: upon them, But if they're consistent and they have been
- 11:44Speaker 7: to date to their credit, there might be an interest
- 11:47Speaker 7: rate cut, certainly not this year. They'll look at the
- 11:49Speaker 7: figures in the December quarter which we get in January,
- 11:53Speaker 7: and I'd expect them to want to see two or
- 11:56Speaker 7: three quarters of sustained downward inflation and we don't have
- 12:00Speaker 7: that at the moment.
- 12:02Speaker 2: And as for the.
- 12:02Speaker 7: Economy, I mean, the bottom line here is that unless
- 12:06Speaker 7: the government if it's re elected, and I'm really worried
- 12:09Speaker 7: about this, Andrew, because we're facing a situation where we
- 12:12Speaker 7: either get a minority labor government, which would be the
- 12:16Speaker 7: worst possible position because of the Greens influence, or else
- 12:20Speaker 7: we have to hope that we get a small majority
- 12:24Speaker 7: labor government because at the end of the day, if
- 12:26Speaker 7: Dunton gets in and in a minority, he's not going
- 12:30Speaker 7: to be able to get legislation through the Senate and
- 12:33Speaker 7: we will still stagnate going forward. So politically we're in
- 12:36Speaker 7: a diabolical situation as well.
- 12:40Speaker 2: I think whoever gets in the Senate is going to
- 12:42Speaker 2: prove to be a wrecking ball for the Austrian economy.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Cameron compared to what Albinizy promise coming in right and
- 12:52Speaker 2: leave us at all, the big social promis. His first
- 12:54Speaker 2: big promise was, of course the unitary Statement, the voice
- 12:58Speaker 2: that's gone to custard. Economically, it was cheaper electricity, stronger economy,
- 13:03Speaker 2: more money in your pocket. Compare that to what is
- 13:06Speaker 2: actually delivered the exact opposite. How do you think it
- 13:09Speaker 2: actually went so wrong? What's the key here to understanding
- 13:13Speaker 2: this total disaster. Well, the key is Albanese.
- 13:18Speaker 8: I mean, we're dealing with probably the worst living prime
- 13:20Speaker 8: minister of a Labor prime minister in memory, who's desperately
- 13:23Speaker 8: trying to make himself the record of being the worst
- 13:25Speaker 8: ever prime minister. I mean, this guy is the George
- 13:27Speaker 8: Lazenby of Labor. Prime Minister's a guy who got to
- 13:31Speaker 8: get the role but completely won't be remembered for anything,
- 13:33Speaker 8: any great achievement. So No, Albanese is the center of
- 13:36Speaker 8: the problems that Labor has right now. And Albanese unfortunately
- 13:40Speaker 8: made those commitments of the last election, has failed to perform,
- 13:43Speaker 8: has completely sunk Labour's of credibility with a voice, which
- 13:47Speaker 8: is a vanity project for Albanese as well. So No,
- 13:50Speaker 8: Labour's got real problems, and coming to election with Albanize,
- 13:53Speaker 8: who is really disliked by voters, makes things just that
- 13:56Speaker 8: much worse.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Look, I totally get that alban easy, the Bucks office
- 14:03Speaker 2: within is the leader and I think it's led a
- 14:06Speaker 2: couple of people often chained to do what they like.
- 14:08Speaker 2: And Michael, that would include Tony Burke in industrial relations
- 14:13Speaker 2: is now change portfoilios, but industry relations giving the unions
- 14:16Speaker 2: everything they want, choking freedom at the workplace for bosses
- 14:20Speaker 2: to try and get more productive, and include tenure, plivsk
- 14:24Speaker 2: starming economic development so particularly you know the gold mine,
- 14:27Speaker 2: of course, the billion dollar gold mine, not hot reining
- 14:31Speaker 2: in people at the Environmental Defender's office and stopping delaying
- 14:35Speaker 2: gas projects and on it goes Andrew Garles opening the
- 14:39Speaker 2: door to unbelievable immigration. Where do you put the blame
- 14:44Speaker 2: in this well?
- 14:45Speaker 7: I put the blame obviously with the Albanese, because you know,
- 14:49Speaker 7: the fish rots from the head, But I also give
- 14:52Speaker 7: equal blame to the treasurer because you know, in any
- 14:55Speaker 7: functioning government you need a treasurer that opposes some of
- 14:58Speaker 7: the crazy ideas that comes out of the I've been
- 15:00Speaker 7: in that position. I mean, all sorts of mad ideas
- 15:04Speaker 7: come out of the premiers and prime Minister's offers and
- 15:07Speaker 7: it's up to the treasure it'll oppose them. But unfortunate
- 15:09Speaker 7: we've got a treasurer that actually supports them. Let's not
- 15:12Speaker 7: forget this future made in China as I call it.
- 15:14Speaker 7: You know, he's touted that as his big policy achievement.
- 15:19Speaker 7: And you know, at the same time we've got him
- 15:21Speaker 7: arguing giving funding to a quantum computer, you know, hypothetical technology,
- 15:26Speaker 7: but telling us that, you know, a seventy year old
- 15:29Speaker 7: mature technology, nuclear energy can't work. I mean, this government
- 15:33Speaker 7: is riddled with incompetence and people that have no clue
- 15:36Speaker 7: about what they're doing, and the treasure has got to
- 15:38Speaker 7: take responsibility as well.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Michael Costa, Camera Milner. Thank you very much to you both. Now,
- 15:46Speaker 2: I hope that every Australian politician has been trying to
- 15:48Speaker 2: sense the social media here watch today. Now it's just
- 15:52Speaker 2: saved South Korea's democracy. Last night, South Korea's President yunsukiel
- 15:58Speaker 2: suddenly declared marcial law from eleven PM, late enough to
- 16:02Speaker 2: expect his opponents would struggle to organize themselves.
- 16:06Speaker 9: Chan and Kumgyorobin, I hereby declare an emergency martial law
- 16:11Speaker 9: in order to defend the Free Republic of Career from
- 16:14Speaker 9: the threat of North Korean communist forces.
- 16:17Speaker 2: President yunon did what's worked so often in kous before
- 16:20Speaker 2: and in the past, he sent the army to shut
- 16:22Speaker 2: down the National Assembly. He put the mainstream media out
- 16:26Speaker 2: of military censorship. But that stuff doesn't work anymore in
- 16:30Speaker 2: the age of x News of the coup, of course,
- 16:33Speaker 2: flashed through social media, so did calls to resist. Opposition
- 16:37Speaker 2: leader Lee j Jung even live streamed himself dodging the
- 16:41Speaker 2: army cordon and hopping over a fence again inside the
- 16:44Speaker 2: National Assembly. Social media then showed former TV news anchor
- 16:48Speaker 2: and guir RJung now a politician, trying to wrestle the
- 16:52Speaker 2: gun from the hands of a soldier as she shouted,
- 16:54Speaker 2: aren't you ashamed of yourself? And that clip soon had
- 16:57Speaker 2: three million views, so you can imagine the effect of
- 17:00Speaker 2: all this. Crowds rushed in to overwhelm the soldiers at
- 17:04Speaker 2: the National Assembly. Within three hours, one hundred and ninety
- 17:07Speaker 2: of the country's three hundred politicians have got out of
- 17:09Speaker 2: bed and inside the building and voted unanimously to demand
- 17:13Speaker 2: the president end as martial law. The opposition leader Lee
- 17:17Speaker 2: then held a press conference calling on the aim to
- 17:19Speaker 2: obey the people and look at all the smartphones recording
- 17:23Speaker 2: him posting on the internet. It proves that soldiers who
- 17:27Speaker 2: controlled TV stations now control nothing. In less than six hours,
- 17:31Speaker 2: you called off as martial law soldiers went home. You
- 17:35Speaker 2: now faces impeachment, even jail. In South Korea's democracy is safe.
- 17:40Speaker 2: I know it wasn't all social media, but huge impact.
- 17:44Speaker 2: I'll get to the why of this fascical call for
- 17:46Speaker 2: martial law with my guest, But more important for us
- 17:49Speaker 2: here is to learn how that social media did help
- 17:52Speaker 2: save South Korea's democracy. No one in China tightly controls
- 17:55Speaker 2: his own social media, but why are so many of
- 17:58Speaker 2: our own politicians so high style to it? Awhen is
- 18:01Speaker 2: a government trying to give governor appointed census powdered sense
- 18:05Speaker 2: of what they claim is this information? Last week, even
- 18:09Speaker 2: liberal politicians joined labor to band children for social media.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Imagine if South Korea's president had laws like that to
- 18:14Speaker 2: protect him. I know, I know, let's stuck overboard. We
- 18:19Speaker 2: don't face martial law here, But then again, it is
- 18:23Speaker 2: only a couple of years ago the victorious thuggish government
- 18:26Speaker 2: order people to stay in their homes and find rubber
- 18:28Speaker 2: bullets at some who refused, even arresting people posting their
- 18:32Speaker 2: resistance online. So yes, we do have lessons to learn here.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Joining me is Peter Jennings. He was Deputy Secretary for
- 18:39Speaker 2: Strategy in the Defense Department, now director of the think
- 18:42Speaker 2: tank Strategic Analysis Australia. Peter always great to talk to you,
- 18:47Speaker 2: but can you tell us why did South Korea's president
- 18:50Speaker 2: impose martial law? And so ham fistedly well, good evening, Andrew.
- 18:58Speaker 6: I think this is going to go down and history
- 19:00Speaker 6: as one of the most disastrous captains pick that a
- 19:03Speaker 6: political leader has made. There really doesn't seem to be
- 19:07Speaker 6: any basis to this other than the fact that President
- 19:10Speaker 6: Yun was being stymied by opposition parties in the South
- 19:14Speaker 6: Korean the just sort of assembly. He couldn't get his
- 19:16Speaker 6: legislation through, and he was plummeting the depths of bad popularity,
- 19:23Speaker 6: low popularity, and I think he.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Made a disastrous call.
- 19:26Speaker 6: At the end of the day, he didn't have the
- 19:28Speaker 6: support of significant figures in his party, Large numbers of
- 19:33Speaker 6: his cabinet resigned, significant advisors resign. The military seemed to
- 19:38Speaker 6: be very half hearted in terms of doing what they
- 19:40Speaker 6: were asked to do, which was to stop politicians from
- 19:43Speaker 6: getting into the legislative assembly. So this was a disastrous
- 19:47Speaker 6: thought bubble gone wrong, and probably I would. From this distance,
- 19:52Speaker 6: I think we can say it's going to be the
- 19:53Speaker 6: end of President Yun's political career.
- 19:58Speaker 2: Oh. I think without a doubt he'll be very lucky
- 20:00Speaker 2: not to see the inside of a jail. His one
- 20:04Speaker 2: excuse that he offered, and I wonder if you think
- 20:06Speaker 2: he's right, is that the South Korean opposition is to
- 20:10Speaker 2: pro North Korea to anti American, which I guess would
- 20:15Speaker 2: offend a president who can sing American pie here.
- 20:19Speaker 1: He is a long long time ago. I can still
- 20:27Speaker 1: remember how that music used to make me smile.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Sorry about that musical interlude, Peter, But is you and
- 20:36Speaker 2: right about the opposition being to pro North Korea a threat?
- 20:42Speaker 6: Look, he was seeking on tun for the alliance relationship then,
- 20:47Speaker 6: but I think he's not correct in terms of being
- 20:49Speaker 6: so condemnatory of the opposition in South Korea. Yes, they're
- 20:54Speaker 6: a center left party. They tend to be always more
- 20:57Speaker 6: interested in talks with the North, they tend to be.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Slightly less interested in.
- 21:04Speaker 6: The alliance relationship with the US. But really there's nothing
- 21:07Speaker 6: to say that that was a significant problem now.
- 21:11Speaker 2: In fact, I think perhaps.
- 21:12Speaker 6: More relevant was that there was a fairly strong popular
- 21:16Speaker 6: reaction against President Yun's attempts to actually get something of
- 21:21Speaker 6: a more successful relationship working with Japan, which is that's
- 21:26Speaker 6: never a popular political move in career, even though from
- 21:29Speaker 6: an Alliance perspective, it's something that the other democracies in
- 21:33Speaker 6: Asia would like to see. But really I see no
- 21:37Speaker 6: basis on which to say that this was an attempt
- 21:41Speaker 6: to counter a North Korean threat that just doesn't seem
- 21:45Speaker 6: to hold any truth, and it's largely been trashed by
- 21:49Speaker 6: people inside South Korea opposing the martial law declaration.
- 21:56Speaker 2: This will go down in history. It will be a
- 22:00Speaker 2: pub quiz test. What was the shortest martial law declaration
- 22:03Speaker 2: in history? I don't know. Peter Jennings, thank you so much,
- 22:06Speaker 2: indeed for your time after the break exposed climate change
- 22:12Speaker 2: Minster Chris bone his fake claims and the tiary climate
- 22:15Speaker 2: scientists behind the scare that seems to be motivating him. Now,
- 22:23Speaker 2: this collapse of the Aberdezi government's big dreams, the most
- 22:26Speaker 2: obvious example was Inji Minister Chris Boone his plans to
- 22:30Speaker 2: transition us supposedly from colon gas to wind and solar.
- 22:34Speaker 2: Now you wonder how a man can try something so
- 22:36Speaker 2: disastrously expensive and physically impossible. But this is a man
- 22:41Speaker 2: who swears he is driven by the science.
- 22:45Speaker 5: The science of climate change is now as certain as
- 22:47Speaker 5: the science that tobacco courses cancer.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Really, because the problem for me isn't just that Bowen
- 22:55Speaker 2: keeps repeating scares that I know aren't science. It's that
- 22:59Speaker 2: some climate scientists feeding this scare make me doubt how
- 23:03Speaker 2: impartial they really are. They sound very emotional and political.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Last week, three of them, all women, published an opinion
- 23:10Speaker 2: piece in the Nature Climate Science Journalist journal and complained
- 23:15Speaker 2: about male sciences and also complained that studying climate change
- 23:20Speaker 2: takes an emotional toll on scientists. There write there is
- 23:24Speaker 2: a need for a safe space to share feelings of anxiety,
- 23:28Speaker 2: grief and burnout among climate scientists. Grief even one of them, Australian,
- 23:34Speaker 2: has elsewhere written She's felt gutted, felt the horror of
- 23:38Speaker 2: climate change. Another is around climate scientist says she's sometimes
- 23:42Speaker 2: overwhelmed by the terrifying reality and I catch myself unexpectedly weeping.
- 23:49Speaker 2: A third says, I feel so lost some days I
- 23:53Speaker 2: feel like I need to scream at the top of
- 23:55Speaker 2: my lungs. This does not sound like dispassionate science, nor
- 24:02Speaker 2: in my opinion, does this emoting saying justified by any
- 24:06Speaker 2: good science I've seen in three decades of covering this issue.
- 24:10Speaker 2: It also makes me wonder which scientists Chris Bone is
- 24:13Speaker 2: listening to. We he demmands the crimates crisis is so
- 24:17Speaker 2: great that we must make these impossibly big changes to
- 24:20Speaker 2: the way we power the economy. And when he tells
- 24:22Speaker 2: us it's working, joining me is economist Bejorn Lomborg is
- 24:27Speaker 2: author and the president of the Copenhagen Consensus Center, former
- 24:30Speaker 2: director of the Danish Government's Environmental Assessment Institute. Here's many
- 24:35Speaker 2: books include now False Alarm. How climate change panic costs
- 24:39Speaker 2: US trillions, hurts the poor and fails to fix the
- 24:42Speaker 2: planet pured Lomborg. It's always great to have you on
- 24:45Speaker 2: the show. I feel privileged to see you again. We
- 24:48Speaker 2: in Australia and our feeling exactly what you describe in
- 24:51Speaker 2: that title. To be honest, the climate change panic that's
- 24:54Speaker 2: costing US billions electricity prices, hurting the poor, and none
- 24:58Speaker 2: of it fixing the planet. How do we into this miss?
- 25:03Speaker 1: Well, fundamentally, I think the problem is that there is
- 25:06Speaker 1: a real issue with climate change. So Chris Bowen is
- 25:09Speaker 1: technically right. There is a challenge here, and the science
- 25:12Speaker 1: is telling us there is a problem. But then everyone
- 25:16Speaker 1: goes overboard and telling you all the things that you
- 25:19Speaker 1: see on TV, all the worrying things from extreme weather
- 25:23Speaker 1: and so on, is because of global warming. But that's
- 25:26Speaker 1: not what the data tells us. Actually, what we've seen
- 25:29Speaker 1: is declining levels of cost and percent of GDP Over
- 25:33Speaker 1: the last thirty years, we've seen a dramatic drop in
- 25:37Speaker 1: the number of people that die from extreme weather related events.
- 25:41Speaker 1: And that's fundamentally because we're really good society able to
- 25:45Speaker 1: tackle most of these issues. There is a climate problem,
- 25:48Speaker 1: but it's nowhere near what we're being told, and that,
- 25:50Speaker 1: of course both make the scientists you just quote it
- 25:53Speaker 1: very very scared, but it also makes us do incredibly
- 25:57Speaker 1: poor policies. We do need to tackle climate change, but
- 26:01Speaker 1: right now we're just wasting money and doing almost nothing.
- 26:05Speaker 2: Well. Speaking of wasting money beyond our Cris Boone came
- 26:09Speaker 2: back the other day from the latest United Nations Climate conference,
- 26:12Speaker 2: the twenty ninth of them, where he gave way another
- 26:15Speaker 2: fifty million of our money, negotiated that you know, three
- 26:18Speaker 2: hundred billion us a year package. I've been struck by
- 26:23Speaker 2: a graphic you produce in your latest column which is
- 26:25Speaker 2: devastating about this climate conference, showing the years of every
- 26:29Speaker 2: one of those past conferences going back nearly three decades,
- 26:33Speaker 2: all plot against global greenhouse emissions. I see no change
- 26:37Speaker 2: at all, apart from when business is shut down during
- 26:40Speaker 2: the pandemic. Briefly, what should this graphic tell us.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Well, what fundamentally shows us is that CO two levels
- 26:49Speaker 1: keep going up, we keep emitting more here two.
- 26:51Speaker 2: And remember we do this.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Because fossil fuels, which is the main reason we emit
- 26:57Speaker 1: here two, deliver a lot of good for humanity. Basically,
- 27:01Speaker 1: it delivers a lot of base load power. It delivers
- 27:04Speaker 1: opportunity for especially poor countries to get themselves out of poverty.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Now there is a problem again, but you're not going
- 27:13Speaker 1: to get to solving that problem by telling people, Oh,
- 27:16Speaker 1: we promise to be good. That's essentially what they've done
- 27:19Speaker 1: for the last twenty nine UN Climate conferences. Everyone has promised, oh,
- 27:25Speaker 1: we're going to cut corponent emissions in the future, and
- 27:28Speaker 1: of course we do no such thing because it is
- 27:31Speaker 1: actually very, very costly. Now the rich countries are increasingly
- 27:35Speaker 1: in so Australia is increasingly actually reducing their emissions, they're
- 27:40Speaker 1: reducing their consumption, for instance, of electricity that has real cost.
- 27:45Speaker 1: We're seeing many of those costs here in Europe. But
- 27:48Speaker 1: the problem is there's a big hole world out there
- 27:51Speaker 1: who's still poor and wants to be rich, and they're
- 27:54Speaker 1: the ones driving this. We're not going to solve climate
- 27:57Speaker 1: by promising to be virtuous or by promising away. I
- 28:03Speaker 1: love the fact that you focus on the fifty million
- 28:06Speaker 1: dollars that Chris Bone gave away, but of course the
- 28:09Speaker 1: three hundred billion dollars that we're promising to give in
- 28:11Speaker 1: twenty to thirty five is going to be ten billion
- 28:14Speaker 1: dollars just from Australia each and every year. That's a
- 28:18Speaker 1: lot of money.
- 28:21Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable. That's where I've got to disagree with you.
- 28:24Speaker 2: The first twenty eight conferences were about we're promised to
- 28:27Speaker 2: be good. This last one was give me the cash.
- 28:30Speaker 2: Give me the cash. It's such a cargo cult now.
- 28:34Speaker 2: But another thing that you've pointed out in your excellent
- 28:37Speaker 2: fillting of what actually happened, our Chris Boone told us
- 28:42Speaker 2: just last week that we are well on track in
- 28:45Speaker 2: transitioning to win and solar.
- 28:47Speaker 5: Here is this statement tells us that we're on track
- 28:50Speaker 5: for our missions reduction target of forty three percent and
- 28:53Speaker 5: for eighty two percent when you will energy target.
- 28:57Speaker 2: But beorn lumbole you've said that glow at least there
- 29:01Speaker 2: is no transition. That's according to your calculations. When you
- 29:04Speaker 2: look at all the extra energy added in the year
- 29:07Speaker 2: to June last year, sixty five percent of it actually
- 29:11Speaker 2: still came from fossil fuels, seven percent from nuclear power
- 29:15Speaker 2: which we've banned here, and just twenty eight percent from
- 29:18Speaker 2: renewables despite all those massive subsidies. Why is that? Why
- 29:22Speaker 2: is is those stubbornly the future so stubbornly cold and.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Gas because most countries want cheap and reliable energy. So look,
- 29:33Speaker 1: Australia and other rich countries can afford to be virtues
- 29:36Speaker 1: and say we're going to pay a lot more money.
- 29:39Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the new data that
- 29:41Speaker 1: shows that England, Sir, the UK is now paying the
- 29:44Speaker 1: most for its electricity, both in for industry and for
- 29:47Speaker 1: households of any country in the world. They've basically gone
- 29:52Speaker 1: all radical green, but it has a huge cost and
- 29:55Speaker 1: we need to recognize that. But most of the world
- 29:58Speaker 1: is not going to play along. China got a lot
- 30:01Speaker 1: of renewable but even got more coal last year. Indonesia, Bangladesh,
- 30:08Speaker 1: India got much much more. India got more of green
- 30:12Speaker 1: but three times more coal. Fundamentally, because coal is reliable,
- 30:17Speaker 1: it is something that you can turn on when you
- 30:19Speaker 1: need it, whereas of course soil and wind only place
- 30:22Speaker 1: when nature wants it, and we can't run us aside
- 30:25Speaker 1: in that. This is what all governments around the world,
- 30:29Speaker 1: and now realizing this is going to be fantastically costly
- 30:32Speaker 1: and probably impossible to do, I think.
- 30:37Speaker 2: It's certainly impossible to do without nuclear power. In our circumstance,
- 30:41Speaker 2: we've got a third worlds and what a sort of
- 30:44Speaker 2: a think third or a quarter of the world's uranium deposits,
- 30:48Speaker 2: and we band it for ourselves. Beyond Lumborg. Always great
- 30:51Speaker 2: to see you. I'm glad to see the planets are
- 30:53Speaker 2: thriving still behind you. Thank you so much in d
- 30:56Speaker 2: for your time. After the break. The Albanizi government betrays
- 31:04Speaker 2: Israel in the United Nations, betrays Australia's Jews, and rewards terrorists.
- 31:10Speaker 2: It has been a day of shame. The Albanizi government
- 31:18Speaker 2: has again stabbed Israel in the back, sold out our
- 31:21Speaker 2: democratic ally and in my opinion, helped terrorists all to
- 31:25Speaker 2: win Muslim and Green votes in Sydney especially. It is
- 31:28Speaker 2: disgusting overnighted Australia broke with the US and Israel and
- 31:32Speaker 2: voted in the United Nations for Palestinian statehood and for
- 31:36Speaker 2: the rapid withdrawal of Israel from the so called occupied territories.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Here is the Australian Ambassador to the UN trying to
- 31:43Speaker 2: justify this shameful surrender to terrorists.
- 31:47Speaker 10: Our vote today reflects our determination that the international community
- 31:51Speaker 10: again work together to build momentum towards this goal. To
- 31:56Speaker 10: that end, we welcomed the resolution's confirmation at a high
- 32:00Speaker 10: level international conference be convened in twenty twenty five aimed
- 32:04Speaker 10: at the implementation of a two state solution for the
- 32:08Speaker 10: achievement of a just, lasting and comprehensive peace in the
- 32:12Speaker 10: Middle East.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Peter Dutton called it out.
- 32:17Speaker 4: Not only did the Prime Minister promise to reduce the
- 32:21Speaker 4: cost of living and the cost of mortgages, he looked
- 32:24Speaker 4: people of Jewish faith in the eye before the election
- 32:27Speaker 4: and gave them a guarantee that there would be no
- 32:29Speaker 4: difference between the two parties, that there would be bipartisan
- 32:32Speaker 4: positions in relation to votes at the UN and our
- 32:35Speaker 4: position with regard to Israel. They've completely abandoned the Jewish community.
- 32:40Speaker 2: So a year and two months after Hamas broke a
- 32:44Speaker 2: piece invaded Israel, slaughtered twelve hundred Jews, kidnapped more than
- 32:48Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty, and when it's still holding one
- 32:52Speaker 2: hundred of them, the Abanizi government demands Israel give up
- 32:56Speaker 2: control of land. It says it's critical to its security.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Agree right now to a Palestinian state, But a state
- 33:04Speaker 2: run by whom Gaza was run by Hamas terras who
- 33:08Speaker 2: want Israel destroyed. The West Bank is run by the
- 33:12Speaker 2: corrupt Palestinian authority that hasn't held an election in eighteen
- 33:15Speaker 2: years and plays the families of terrorists who killed Jews.
- 33:20Speaker 2: This is also shocking. It's such a surrender to violence
- 33:25Speaker 2: and such a betrayal of Israel, and it's going to
- 33:28Speaker 2: encourage every peanut extremist on our streets. Who is there
- 33:31Speaker 2: really chanting from the river to the sea the destruction
- 33:35Speaker 2: of Israel. And by the way, where is Attorney General
- 33:39Speaker 2: Mark Drayfuss, He's Jewish? Why is he signed as this
- 33:42Speaker 2: party betrays Jews? Where is the fence? Minister Richard Miles
- 33:47Speaker 2: supposed to live the right? Is he going to look
- 33:49Speaker 2: back on this time and be proud that he said
- 33:53Speaker 2: nothing while this evil was done by his government? Joining
- 33:59Speaker 2: me are the Wild, Deputy executive director of the Institute
- 34:02Speaker 2: of Public Affairs. A former federal Labor MP, Michael Danby
- 34:05Speaker 2: was chair of the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs,
- 34:08Speaker 2: Defense and Trade. Michael explain this decision.
- 34:15Speaker 11: It's unexplainable. Is rather as just conducted a seafire under
- 34:22Speaker 11: American auspices in Lebanon. This certainly doesn't reward that it
- 34:27Speaker 11: talks about inevitable results on a two state solution, which
- 34:32Speaker 11: should be subjective discussion between the parties. Andrew, it's like
- 34:37Speaker 11: these people are reinventing the world three times Presidents Clinton.
- 34:43Speaker 1: Obama and.
- 34:47Speaker 11: Who was the other one, Oh George Bush arranged two
- 34:50Speaker 11: state solutions and the Palestinians ran away. Mister Larson screaming
- 34:55Speaker 11: on behalf of Penny Wong in the United Nations isn't
- 34:59Speaker 11: going to convince anyone. And as to laying down the
- 35:01Speaker 11: law like a Marxist from Adelaide. You know, you're a
- 35:05Speaker 11: genius and you decide what's going to happen with the world.
- 35:09Speaker 11: I'm telling you, mister Larson, at least Aphanic, the new
- 35:13Speaker 11: American ambassador the United Nations, is going to be watching you,
- 35:16Speaker 11: and she knows you don't believe a word of all
- 35:18Speaker 11: of this nonsense. And she knows that you're dragging Australia
- 35:22Speaker 11: further and further away from our US alliance. And that's
- 35:25Speaker 11: not good for all Australians, let alone what most of
- 35:29Speaker 11: us think about pandering to Western Sydney before the next
- 35:33Speaker 11: federal election.
- 35:35Speaker 2: What do you think is going on here, Daniel Wild?
- 35:38Speaker 2: Is it principle? Is it politics? Is it stupidity? What
- 35:42Speaker 2: on earth is driving this?
- 35:46Speaker 9: Well, sadly, I think it's largely politics, Andrew, as you've identified,
- 35:49Speaker 9: And look, you've been talking about this for a lot
- 35:50Speaker 9: of years now, Andrew, which is you know, the Balkanization
- 35:54Speaker 9: of our country and its break up into religious and
- 35:56Speaker 9: ethnic enclaves, and the inevitable political concert quenss of that happening,
- 36:01Speaker 9: and we're seeing that right now. You know, this is
- 36:03Speaker 9: a government whose decisions on foreign policy in relation to Israel,
- 36:08Speaker 9: but also in relation to our most important ally of
- 36:10Speaker 9: the United States, is being driven not by an assessment
- 36:13Speaker 9: of the changing geopolitical order, not by an assessment of
- 36:16Speaker 9: what is right and what is wrong, but by an
- 36:18Speaker 9: assessment of if they can scrape through as a minority
- 36:21Speaker 9: government at the next election. There are, as you know,
- 36:24Speaker 9: up to a third of voters who are Muslim in
- 36:27Speaker 9: certain labour seats. For example, Tony burk Seed is around
- 36:30Speaker 9: thirty percent in the western areas of Sydney. And what
- 36:33Speaker 9: it shows is that our migration program has failed to
- 36:37Speaker 9: create a cohesive society and we're seeing the downstream consequences
- 36:40Speaker 9: of that. You know, culture is upstream from politics, and
- 36:43Speaker 9: what happens when you fail to have a sensible migration
- 36:47Speaker 9: program and you fail to have political leadership is we
- 36:49Speaker 9: see these downstream consequences that are simply tearing our nation apart.
- 36:55Speaker 2: And of course when you run a absurd multicultural program
- 37:00Speaker 2: that encourages this organization. Looks quite correct, Michael, you actually
- 37:08Speaker 2: know Mark Dreyfus, You know Richard Males. You're in the
- 37:11Speaker 2: same faction as Richard Males. Where are the labor MPs
- 37:15Speaker 2: that Labor Right MPs who must know now what is
- 37:19Speaker 2: being done is morally, strategically and I would hope politically wrong.
- 37:25Speaker 2: You know, is this an example of how it's lost
- 37:30Speaker 2: control and direction or is there something it's.
- 37:33Speaker 11: Good for Australia. You're right, andrew your basic premise. It's
- 37:38Speaker 11: good for Australia when both political parties have mainstream foreign
- 37:42Speaker 11: policy concerns. And unfortunately for Australia under this government, the
- 37:47Speaker 11: Labor Right has absented themselves from the field. There's no
- 37:52Speaker 11: Bill short and there's no Kim Beasley, there's no Kimberly
- 37:54Speaker 11: Kitchen unfortunately to hold these people to account, and they're
- 37:59Speaker 11: just letting you see this isn't just I think you
- 38:03Speaker 11: and Daniel understand. This not just an issue for the
- 38:06Speaker 11: Australian Jewish community about them betraying Israel, admitting three thousand
- 38:12Speaker 11: unchecked Guardians to Australia, the unchecked anti Jewish bigotry that
- 38:17Speaker 11: we've seen since the Opera House, the enormous rift we're
- 38:21Speaker 11: building up with the future Trump administration over our failure
- 38:26Speaker 11: to even be cautious about the international criminal courts attack
- 38:31Speaker 11: on a democratically elected leader who's not even a signatory
- 38:35Speaker 11: like the United States to the ICC. All of these
- 38:39Speaker 11: things create a picture for Australians that this government is
- 38:43Speaker 11: beholden to extreme Middle East factions. They don't like it
- 38:50Speaker 11: in regional Australia as much as they don't like it
- 38:53Speaker 11: in Corefield.
- 38:55Speaker 2: Well tell me when you're going to tear up your
- 38:56Speaker 2: Labor Party membership. I'd like you to do on my show,
- 38:59Speaker 2: because understand how you'll be part of a party that's
- 39:02Speaker 2: so sick.
- 39:03Speaker 11: Well, it was a desire and I'm not going to
- 39:06Speaker 11: give it up to these Rarely was.
- 39:08Speaker 2: I worked for the party back then too, but never again.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Daniel the mass immigration. This government yesterday issued its latest
- 39:17Speaker 2: list of core skills it said it was looking for
- 39:20Speaker 2: when it was importing skilled migrants. I'm surprised with this list,
- 39:24Speaker 2: so many journalists being laid off at the moment, that
- 39:27Speaker 2: we still need to import foreign television journalists and public
- 39:31Speaker 2: relations people. That we need to import hairdressers as well,
- 39:35Speaker 2: and massage therapists or foreign tour guards to show tourists
- 39:39Speaker 2: our Australia. How does that work? Childcare workers? What about
- 39:43Speaker 2: yoga instructors and wu shoe martial arts coaches? Is really
- 39:48Speaker 2: really going to collapse if this government doesn't import more
- 39:51Speaker 2: of all these people.
- 39:54Speaker 9: Well, exactly, Andrew, and you will have you were talking
- 39:56Speaker 9: about this earlier with the news that we've had seven
- 39:58Speaker 9: consecutive quarters of negative per capita economic growth. So this
- 40:02Speaker 9: is the longest decline to living standards since digitized records
- 40:06Speaker 9: began in the early nineteen seventies. So you know, the
- 40:08Speaker 9: reality is that not only as you pointed out, there's
- 40:10Speaker 9: a massive mismatch between skills and migrants. We've got about
- 40:13Speaker 9: three hundred and thirty thousand job vacancies across Australia, but
- 40:17Speaker 9: they're not getting into the jobs that we need. But
- 40:19Speaker 9: it's also making our country poorer. It hasn't been planned for,
- 40:22Speaker 9: it doesn't have the consent of the community, and it's
- 40:24Speaker 9: not targeted towards areas of economic need. Now, I'm not
- 40:27Speaker 9: blaming the migrants for this at all, because I have
- 40:29Speaker 9: nothing but respect for those who leave their homeland, sacrifice,
- 40:33Speaker 9: work hard, and toil to have a better life for
- 40:35Speaker 9: their family and their kids. Because why wouldn't you want
- 40:37Speaker 9: to come to a country like Australia with all of
- 40:39Speaker 9: our freedoms and our opportunities. But the reality is that
- 40:42Speaker 9: the mass migration program is not working. We've just talked
- 40:45Speaker 9: about the social cohesion problems, but the number one course
- 40:49Speaker 9: of our economy going backwards is this unplanned program and
- 40:53Speaker 9: the government is not hitting its targets. So look, I
- 40:55Speaker 9: think it's time that the program is reduced fairly significantly
- 40:59Speaker 9: and we get it back in all.
- 41:01Speaker 2: I'm just being reminded in my earpiece that there are
- 41:04Speaker 2: three English producers behind this show. Well, okay, there you go.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Perhaps we do need foreign producers. Daniel Wilder, Michael Danby,
- 41:16Speaker 2: Thank you very much to you both. After the break,
- 41:19Speaker 2: the Chinese tycoon who is pub chain has just tried
- 41:22Speaker 2: to ban Australia Day. Wouldn't dare insult China that way?
- 41:25Speaker 2: Have gone through what is written? Yeah, when you look
- 41:32Speaker 2: at the drift, the disaster of this government, lack of leadership.
- 41:36Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of people like to mock
- 41:38Speaker 2: Donald Trump, but there's something very different about his leadership.
- 41:41Speaker 2: I know it's very branch and sometimes erratic and scares me,
- 41:45Speaker 2: but he's always testing things. That's the other side. Testing
- 41:48Speaker 2: it doesn't work it, can it be better? How can
- 41:49Speaker 2: I get a good deal of it out for my country?
- 41:51Speaker 2: Give it a shake, test everything, and do not cower.
- 41:55Speaker 2: Very different. Don't you think I'll give you an example,
- 41:58Speaker 2: Trump said to Canada, it was last week. I think
- 42:01Speaker 2: stop drugs coming over your border to the US, or
- 42:04Speaker 2: I'll specially with tariffs. Within days, Canada's Prime minister was
- 42:08Speaker 2: in Trump's home for Thanksgiving, but Donald Trump still didn't
- 42:11Speaker 2: let up on him.
- 42:13Speaker 12: We are told that Wan tru Doah told President like
- 42:16Speaker 12: Trump that new tariffs would kill the Canadian economy. Trump
- 42:21Speaker 12: joked to him that if Canada can't survive without ripping
- 42:24Speaker 12: off the US to the tune of one hundred billion
- 42:26Speaker 12: dollars a year, then maybe Canada should become the fifty
- 42:30Speaker 12: first state and Trudeau could become its governor.
- 42:35Speaker 2: As a ram at home, Trump posted this picture of
- 42:37Speaker 2: him looking over the Canadian real estate. Joining me is
- 42:40Speaker 2: Ron Dean to achieve the Spectator straight and hosts of
- 42:43Speaker 2: Outside his on Sky News every Sunday at nine am.
- 42:46Speaker 2: There is a creativity there to this chaos in there.
- 42:49Speaker 2: Rowan like nothing sacred. Everything can be tested. He wants
- 42:52Speaker 2: the best deal always.
- 42:55Speaker 13: Well, Andrew, I'll tell you in a second why Donald
- 42:57Speaker 13: Trump is such a genius. But first of all, I'm
- 42:58Speaker 13: going to go where Michael and did not dare go.
- 43:01Speaker 13: I am going to tear up live on your television show, Andrew,
- 43:05Speaker 13: my labor party membership. It is gone, the whole lot
- 43:10Speaker 13: of it. I know they I know they're going to
- 43:12Speaker 13: be upset. They're going to be very disappointed. They'll be
- 43:13Speaker 13: begging me to come back.
- 43:15Speaker 1: But that's it.
- 43:16Speaker 2: I've had enough.
- 43:17Speaker 13: Wong and Albanezy have finally lost me and I'm sorry.
- 43:19Speaker 13: That's just the way it goes. But on to Donald.
- 43:21Speaker 14: What am I going to do with the local labor
- 43:23Speaker 14: branch with Arby Andrew? It'll be a disaster. Now onto
- 43:32Speaker 14: Donald Trump. The reason Donald Trump is so successful is
- 43:36Speaker 14: because he's not a politician. Now that might sound odd,
- 43:38Speaker 14: seeing he's won two presidential elections.
- 43:41Speaker 13: I would argue he might have even won a third,
- 43:43Speaker 13: but there you go. That's for another day. But he's
- 43:45Speaker 13: not a politician. He's a businessman.
- 43:47Speaker 2: And as a businessman, businessman.
- 43:49Speaker 13: Yeah, he's a businessman who wants to get results that
- 43:52Speaker 13: are financially based, where if you're exporting, you sell more
- 43:56Speaker 13: than you buy. If you're a trading nation, you trade,
- 43:59Speaker 13: you set sell and send overseas more than you're bringing in.
- 44:02Speaker 13: It's pretty simple. If you're being threatened by another country,
- 44:07Speaker 13: you use whatever tools you have at your disposal, preferably
- 44:11Speaker 13: not military, to get your way. If it comes to
- 44:16Speaker 13: requiring military force, he will use military force. And everybody
- 44:20Speaker 13: knows that and appreciates that. But the reason that Donald
- 44:23Speaker 13: Trump is so effective is he refuses to play all
- 44:27Speaker 13: these politically correct games that the diplomats play at the
- 44:31Speaker 13: United Nations and that all the groups like all the
- 44:36Speaker 13: ngngos and others play, Oh, we can't say this, and
- 44:38Speaker 13: we've got to do that, and the global order and
- 44:40Speaker 13: world based order and all this sort of stuff. He's
- 44:43Speaker 13: interested in what is in America's self interest and what
- 44:46Speaker 13: I would say to Australia in particular this, as you said,
- 44:49Speaker 13: this completely hopeless government we've got Australia unfortunately has to
- 44:54Speaker 13: pick a side. Light has to be on America's side
- 44:56Speaker 13: or not on America's side. And the way that this
- 44:58Speaker 13: government is going, as the government is going, it is
- 45:01Speaker 13: clearly on America's side. Now every Australia needs to be really,
- 45:06Speaker 13: really concerned about that, because that is not what we
- 45:09Speaker 13: were told before the last election. But on every issue,
- 45:13Speaker 13: whether it's Israel, whether it's climate change, whether it's energy everything,
- 45:16Speaker 13: this labor albany.
- 45:18Speaker 2: You can be a cigarette paper between the parties on
- 45:20Speaker 2: foreign affairs, it wouldn't be you know, well, now we're
- 45:24Speaker 2: seeing it. I mean it's a disgrace. I hearpe people
- 45:27Speaker 2: say say, oh, well, this is them showing they're independent.
- 45:31Speaker 2: It's not independent to be reflexively anti American and siding
- 45:35Speaker 2: with the you know, the rebel in the Middle East.
- 45:38Speaker 2: That's not independent. That's just you're still dependent, just you know,
- 45:43Speaker 2: in a different way the other There was a pr
- 45:46Speaker 2: disaster this week that I've got to get onto. Yes, Andrew,
- 45:50Speaker 2: Drew Pavlou put me onto this. The pub chain Rowan
- 45:53Speaker 2: that tried to ban Australia celebrations until it was threatened
- 45:56Speaker 2: with Boycott's. It's owned by Hong Kong company chaired by
- 46:01Speaker 2: Way Joan Shan, who when it comes to China seems
- 46:05Speaker 2: to me a bit of a nationalist defending its claims
- 46:07Speaker 2: that I want, defending his claims to the South China Sea,
- 46:11Speaker 2: defending China's oppression of the Muslim veig Is this counter
- 46:14Speaker 2: terrorism part of a war on terror? See what gets me? Rowan?
- 46:18Speaker 2: So this guy probably faced ruin if he did. Is
- 46:21Speaker 2: this company dard criticize China's colonial pass say, like in Tibet,
- 46:26Speaker 2: like it criticized ours. We're into self flagulation like almost
- 46:30Speaker 2: no other country I know of Rowan, and with less
- 46:34Speaker 2: reason to do it. Yeah.
- 46:35Speaker 13: Well, imagine Andrew, if I toddled off to Shanghai, bought
- 46:39Speaker 13: a little cafe there on the board, set up a
- 46:41Speaker 13: little bar there. It went well, I opened one in Beijing,
- 46:45Speaker 13: another one out in the provinces in Guangzhou. And then
- 46:47Speaker 13: comes the big military day when Jibingping is ji Jingping
- 46:51Speaker 13: is there with rockets, and I said, oh no, no, no,
- 46:53Speaker 13: we're not going to celebrate this dreadful Chinese day because
- 46:56Speaker 13: they'll upset some people. I think I'd be off. I'd
- 46:58Speaker 13: be joining the wigas off in some re education camp
- 47:02Speaker 13: if I were lucky. But the scary thing here or
- 47:05Speaker 13: not the scary thing, Andrew, The revealing thing here is
- 47:08Speaker 13: this shows you precisely how all those woke types are
- 47:13Speaker 13: fellow travelers of those who hate and dislike Australia. Now,
- 47:17Speaker 13: and I'm not saying this particular character had any influence
- 47:20Speaker 13: over the decision by them, have no idea, But what
- 47:25Speaker 13: I do know is that he clearly didn't put a
- 47:27Speaker 13: stop to it until it had blown up in their faces.
- 47:31Speaker 13: But the reality is that, as Drew has pointed out,
- 47:35Speaker 13: Andrew does a terrific job. As Drew has pointed out,
- 47:39Speaker 13: you know that how we should be putting our national
- 47:42Speaker 13: interest first in all places. Yes, we want friendly relationships
- 47:45Speaker 13: to other countries. It goes without saying. But when a company,
- 47:48Speaker 13: a corporation which the CEO is from a foreign country
- 47:54Speaker 13: that has differences with us politically, is then playing politics,
- 47:58Speaker 13: which is what that Australia they ban was playing politics,
- 48:01Speaker 13: running down the country, causing division of a political nature.
- 48:05Speaker 13: I don't think. I think the lesson there is you know,
- 48:10Speaker 13: what's the real agenda behind the woe hatred of Australia day?
- 48:13Speaker 13: What's the real agenda behind the woke you know, windmills
- 48:17Speaker 13: and all the stuff.
- 48:18Speaker 2: Your self hatred? Though Rowan, which country survives with so
- 48:23Speaker 2: much self hatred and which has done so little to
- 48:25Speaker 2: deserve it? You compare us to almost anyone. It's just
- 48:28Speaker 2: a tragedy Roundein. Always great to talk to you. I
- 48:32Speaker 2: do hope you get back together with the your friends
- 48:34Speaker 2: in the Labor Party at some stage that thanks for
- 48:37Speaker 2: your time. That's it for me, coming up now, Sherry Maxon,
- 48:40Speaker 2: good Night,