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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie. And this is Keon, your favorite
- 0:02Speaker 1: OK Storytime host, and we've got great stories coming right up.
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- 0:11Speaker 3: My girlfriend is too embarrassed to meet my family because
- 0:15Speaker 3: she can't speak.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Well, actions speak louder than words.
- 0:18Speaker 3: My 24-male wonderful girlfriend, 21 female of almost one year now,
- 0:24Speaker 3: was born with malformed vocal cords. Despite an attempt at surgery,
- 0:28Speaker 3: she is unable to speak. I've never given a crap
- 0:31Speaker 3: about that. I learned sign language and even though it
- 0:34Speaker 3: has been tough, I'm able to communicate with her. She
- 0:36Speaker 3: can hear and comprehend English perfectly. She always had self-esteem
- 0:41Speaker 3: issues because of that. She is incredibly attractive and guys
- 0:44Speaker 3: approached her all the time but turned away when they
- 0:46Speaker 3: learned about her disability. We've been in an awesome relationship
- 0:50Speaker 3: for a year now. I'm her first everything. I've enjoyed
- 0:53Speaker 3: every moment with her and we're even considering moving in together.
- 0:56Speaker 4: Everything. Really? Everything?
- 0:59Speaker 1: Everything.
- 1:00Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from you slash mute boyfriend.
- 1:04Speaker 3: And if you want to submit your own stories, go
- 1:06Speaker 3: to r slash okay story time.
- 1:07Speaker 4: I'm Mike.
- 1:08Speaker 1: I'm Keon.
- 1:09Speaker 4: I'm Riley.
- 1:10Speaker 3: And today we're going to give advice for you guys,
- 1:13Speaker 3: but we don't have all the answers. If you guys
- 1:15Speaker 3: have advice for us, sound off in the comments, please.
- 1:19Speaker 3: But as OP says, anyway, my sister's wedding is coming up.
- 1:24Speaker 4: I need a date.
- 1:25Speaker 3: I obviously cannot take anybody else but my girlfriend, but
- 1:28Speaker 3: she's too scared of being rejected.
- 1:30Speaker 4: By my family.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Now, we've discussed about marriage and a future together, and naturally,
- 1:34Speaker 3: it's time she met my family. Anything I can do
- 1:37Speaker 3: to change her mind slash help her. I don't want
- 1:39Speaker 3: to force this on her, but eventually she'll have to
- 1:41Speaker 3: meet my folks.
- 1:42Speaker 4: Edit.
- 1:43Speaker 3: So apparently my ex will also be there at the wedding.
- 1:48Speaker 4: Hello. And she is single. Relevant comments. This is from deleted.
- 1:52Speaker 3: You need to introduce your girlfriend to your family beforehand
- 1:56Speaker 3: in a small and unpressured environment.
- 1:58Speaker 4: That is true. Wedding. Crazy.
- 2:00Speaker 1: For the first time.
- 2:00Speaker 4: For the first time. Kind of crazy. Intense.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Very intense. Because you're not just meeting the family.
- 2:05Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:05Speaker 1: You meet everybody else at the wedding, too.
- 2:07Speaker 3: That is straight to the professional leagues, too, of, like,
- 2:11Speaker 3: social events.
- 2:13Speaker 4: Dude, wild.
- 2:14Speaker 3: This large family gathering is obviously too large for a
- 2:17Speaker 3: first meeting, obviously.
- 2:18Speaker 4: Cool. Glad you agree.
- 2:19Speaker 3: And too much for her to deal with. Progress slowly,
- 2:22Speaker 3: my friend. Don't push her if she's not comfortable. OP says,
- 2:26Speaker 3: we land the morning of the wedding.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Smart.
- 2:28Speaker 3: I absolutely do not want to push her. I totally
- 2:31Speaker 3: get what a terrible social situation that this all can become. However,
- 2:35Speaker 3: I do have limited options. If it's too big an
- 2:38Speaker 3: event for her and too much all at once, it's
- 2:41Speaker 3: all right with me.
- 2:41Speaker 4: Great.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Is it all right with her?
- 2:44Speaker 3: I just don't want her to feel bad about not
- 2:46Speaker 3: meeting my family.
- 2:47Speaker 4: That's all.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Brother, if you are seeing your family, and this is
- 2:50Speaker 3: the only time you can see your family.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Do a FaceTime call or a Skype call. Something. Something
- 3:23Speaker 1: just to break the ice.
- 3:25Speaker 5: A point of contact.
- 3:26Speaker 4: A thousand percent. Something.
- 3:27Speaker 1: And you don't want to take away your parents. Like,
- 3:30Speaker 1: this is a big event for your sister. She's getting married.
- 3:34Speaker 1: You don't want to take away from that. All right,
- 3:36Speaker 1: this is my girlfriend. Two minutes talk. That was great, right?
- 3:38Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:39Speaker 1: No, you don't want to do that. That's stupid.
- 3:42Speaker 5: Oh, gosh, and it has to be over Skype because
- 3:44Speaker 5: she can't talk.
- 3:46Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 3:47Speaker 2: So even if you had it on phone call.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Dude, I totally forgot about that, too. That's nuts.
- 3:54Speaker 1: How have you not introduced your partner that you are
- 3:56Speaker 1: about to move in together with to your family that
- 3:59Speaker 1: you've been dating for a year?
- 4:00Speaker 4: Yes.
- 4:01Speaker 1: For a year.
- 4:02Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, honestly, he seems ashamed by her.
- 4:06Speaker 4: Yeah. I have no other options.
- 4:08Speaker 5: My ex is going to be there. She's single.
- 4:10Speaker 1: This stupid wedding that's coming up. I guess that's the
- 4:12Speaker 1: perfect time to do it.
- 4:14Speaker 4: You got real Einstein over here. Opie continues.
- 4:16Speaker 3: But something like that can get very uncomfortable very soon
- 4:20Speaker 3: because there's only audio and video.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Oh, my God. You know what there is when you
- 4:24Speaker 1: do it in person?
- 4:25Speaker 4: It's season hearing.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Holy crap.
- 4:28Speaker 4: That's so true, dude. Oh, wow.
- 4:30Speaker 1: You got me there, Opie.
- 4:33Speaker 3: She's going to have the glasses that just has like
- 4:36Speaker 3: the text like on it.
- 4:37Speaker 4: Oh, that'd be so funny.
- 4:38Speaker 3: So when you take the audio portion out of it,
- 4:41Speaker 3: it feels weird. When you've met someone, you can walk
- 4:44Speaker 3: around and stuff. I'm speaking purely on the basis of
- 4:47Speaker 3: what happened around three months ago with a childhood buddy
- 4:50Speaker 3: of mine. She had reason to butt out in that
- 4:52Speaker 3: conversation because she wasn't the topic of conversation. Just came
- 4:55Speaker 3: into the view and he said hi and she waved back.
- 4:58Speaker 4: That was it. So we got an update eight days later, fellas.
- 5:03Speaker 3: So with all the people screaming Skype, Skype, Skype, I
- 5:07Speaker 3: thought it'll be the right thing to do.
- 5:09Speaker 4: I hooked up a Skype call with my sister. You
- 5:10Speaker 4: thought it would be the right thing to do?
- 5:12Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, mister. You thought going to
- 5:14Speaker 1: the wedding... For the first time in introducing your girlfriend
- 5:17Speaker 1: who can't speak.
- 5:18Speaker 4: Yeah, this is like.
- 5:19Speaker 1: It's the right thing to do.
- 5:20Speaker 3: This is like a master class on backpedaling right now.
- 5:25Speaker 5: How to dig yourself out of the hole 101.
- 5:26Speaker 3: So he set up a Skype with my sister, her fiance,
- 5:31Speaker 3: and my dad. Mom wasn't going to be there. My
- 5:34Speaker 3: sister was nervous, but this was better than meeting them
- 5:37Speaker 3: all at once face to face. Turns out, it was
- 5:40Speaker 3: a pretty cool idea after all. Everything flowed smoothly. My
- 5:43Speaker 3: sister and my girlfriend have quite a bit in common,
- 5:45Speaker 3: so they have talked for a while. When their conversation
- 5:48Speaker 3: stalled out, I had a chat with her fiancé. He
- 5:50Speaker 3: seemed like a pretty nice guy. Had a long chat
- 5:52Speaker 3: with dad. You people have no idea how much this
- 5:55Speaker 3: entire exercise benefited from my dad's presence. My dad's the
- 5:59Speaker 3: kind of guy who always has the right words for
- 6:01Speaker 3: any and every situation. He respectfully complimented my girlfriend on
- 6:06Speaker 3: her looks and told me how lucky I am. This
- 6:08Speaker 3: line had her grinning from ear to ear.
- 6:27Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 6:28Speaker 3: So I'm going stag to my sister's wedding.
- 6:30Speaker 4: Oh, no.
- 6:31Speaker 3: But at least she got to know a part of
- 6:33Speaker 3: my family. So we got some, I mean, yeah, we
- 6:36Speaker 3: pretty much.
- 6:37Speaker 1: I have more questions than answers, honestly.
- 6:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:40Speaker 1: One, why is your ex invited to this wedding? Two.
- 6:43Speaker 4: Dude.
- 6:44Speaker 6: Two.
- 6:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:45Speaker 1: You said your girlfriend talked to your family.
- 6:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:49Speaker 1: How did she communicate? Because it was through Skype.
- 6:51Speaker 7: Skype.
- 6:53Speaker 4: Yeah. She was probably on the keyboard, like, the whole time.
- 6:57Speaker 4: Good point, good point.
- 6:58Speaker 5: Because he hasn't mentioned ASL whatsoever in this.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't mention, like, oh, my sister and her, like,
- 7:03Speaker 1: they know sign. It was just like, that was it.
- 7:06Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 7:08Speaker 4: I don't know. It is kind of crazy.
- 7:10Speaker 3: I'm more interested in just, like, he's going to talk
- 7:13Speaker 3: to the ex at the wedding.
- 7:15Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, he's going stag.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Oh.
- 7:18Speaker 4: The ex is there?
- 7:19Speaker 1: He's brought up his ex more than his girlfriend.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Single?
- 7:21Speaker 2: Do you think he's strategic?
- 7:22Speaker 4: Dude, I think this might be some plots going on
- 7:26Speaker 4: right now. I hope not. This freaking guy. I don't know, man.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
- 7:30Speaker 5: I'm kind of, I'm on your side.
- 7:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I'm on your side.
- 7:33Speaker 5: Let's put up one of these guys.
- 7:35Speaker 4: Oh, let me see.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory, baby. Dude, I really hope that's not going
- 7:40Speaker 3: to be the case. But we have an update. Well,
- 7:44Speaker 3: this is some comments that was like the final comments
- 7:47Speaker 3: for OP.
- 7:48Speaker 5: Got it, got it, got it.
- 7:49Speaker 3: So make sure to contact your girlfriend often throughout the
- 7:52Speaker 3: time you'll be there. She's uncomfortable with your ex being there.
- 7:56Speaker 3: And while it's not necessary because you're not going to
- 7:59Speaker 3: do anything wrong, it's still a nice gesture to never
- 8:02Speaker 3: lose contact if you can't help it.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Right, OP? You're not going to do anything wrong.
- 8:06Speaker 4: Right?
- 8:07Speaker 3: Well, OP says, yeah, definitely. I'll keep texting her. On
- 8:12Speaker 3: general principle, I'll just avoid my ex. Another commenter says,
- 8:17Speaker 3: CC Wakanamaru, do you and your girlfriend have any plans
- 8:21Speaker 3: to meet your family soon after.
- 8:22Speaker 4: Your sister's wedding? Good question. Oh, good question.
- 8:25Speaker 3: OP responds, my sister and her fiance are going to
- 8:28Speaker 3: fly out sometime.
- 8:29Speaker 4: Parents will have to wait. That's it. That's the story.
- 8:34Speaker 5: My fiancé confessed she slept with another man, so I
- 8:38Speaker 5: ended our engagement. That's terrible. I, male 25, don't know
- 8:42Speaker 5: where to begin. I haven't slept, eaten, or left the
- 8:44Speaker 5: apartment for the last week. I feel like my fiancé,
- 8:48Speaker 5: female 25, has passed away. My fiancé and I have
- 8:51Speaker 5: been together for four years. We met in university and
- 8:54Speaker 5: fell in love. She's the most incredible and bravest woman
- 8:58Speaker 5: I know. I want to build statues of her and
- 9:01Speaker 5: tell the world how amazing and how gorgeous she is
- 9:05Speaker 5: and all she has done for me in supporting me
- 9:07Speaker 5: to become who I am today in self-career and happiness.
- 9:11Speaker 5: She has been plagued by chronic illness and through tears
- 9:15Speaker 5: gets herself up and into the gym, classroom, work, etc.
- 9:18Speaker 4: I love her.
- 9:19Speaker 5: So five months ago, I proposed to her. she was
- 9:22Speaker 5: so happy and said about time we've been living in
- 9:25Speaker 5: the same city where we started and finished our degrees
- 9:28Speaker 5: but had been planning to move back to her parents
- 9:31Speaker 5: and the coast where they live seven hours away to
- 9:35Speaker 5: start the next chapter of our lives a month ago
- 9:37Speaker 5: she got the opportunity to transfer her job to where
- 9:40Speaker 5: her parents live so we immediately packed up her and
- 9:43Speaker 5: sent her there You really should have put things there
- 9:46Speaker 5: because it sounds like you shoved your wife into a box.
- 9:49Speaker 4: We expedited ship it. We shipped her. We expedited shipped her.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Don't worry.
- 9:53Speaker 5: It was overnight. They put her in the cargo plane. I,
- 9:56Speaker 5: on the other hand, was still going through interviews for
- 9:59Speaker 5: jobs down that way and was having success and by
- 10:02Speaker 5: the way i have to let you know this comes
- 10:04Speaker 5: from users slam 24 if you want to submit your
- 10:06Speaker 5: own stories go to the r slash okay story and
- 10:08Speaker 5: i'm subreddit i'm dakota I'm Mike. And we are here
- 10:12Speaker 5: to read the story and give our thoughts and our
- 10:13Speaker 5: good little advices, but we don't have all the answers.
- 10:16Speaker 5: No one does. OP says, I finally landed a job
- 10:20Speaker 5: two weeks ago, but they wouldn't require me for another month.
- 10:23Speaker 5: I also have to stay and finish an in-person course
- 10:25Speaker 5: I enrolled in that finishes in three weeks, and our
- 10:28Speaker 5: lease on the apartment ends at that time as well. Thankfully,
- 10:31Speaker 5: we've done long distance before in university over summers when
- 10:34Speaker 5: I stayed and worked part-time while she spent time with family.
- 10:37Speaker 4: A month ago.
- 10:38Speaker 5: Something changed dramatically. Her libido went up and she wanted
- 10:43Speaker 5: to be intimate every night. She started to criticize my
- 10:47Speaker 5: lack of ability to keep up and claimed I didn't
- 10:50Speaker 5: desire her enough. The pressure accumulated and my own drive decreased.
- 10:55Speaker 5: We talked about it as we always had. We've always
- 10:57Speaker 5: been an incredible team and my favorite trait is her honesty.
- 11:01Speaker 5: She tells me everything as it is and I don't
- 11:03Speaker 5: like this trait anymore as you will see. We've always
- 11:06Speaker 5: been equal in effort, but I decided to start doing more.
- 11:09Speaker 5: I wrote her poetry. I made art for her. I
- 11:12Speaker 5: took her running and did more chores than she did.
- 11:15Speaker 5: I wanted to help her know I love her. She
- 11:16Speaker 5: started to say, oh, now you feel like a roommate
- 11:19Speaker 5: or my best friend. So I made her romantic dinners
- 11:22Speaker 5: and tried to initiate intimacy. But then, now it feels forced.
- 11:27Speaker 5: She then had to leave for the coast and she
- 11:28Speaker 5: left in tears saying she'd miss me. I don't know,
- 11:32Speaker 5: that's okay.
- 11:34Speaker 4: All right. Yeah, what is a romantic dinner?
- 11:38Speaker 3: What's the difference between that and just a regular dinner?
- 11:42Speaker 5: I don't know. It's like, I'm also going to bang.
- 11:45Speaker 4: That's the only thing, right?
- 11:47Speaker 5: There's candles and roses.
- 11:49Speaker 4: And there's a bath that's getting drawn.
- 11:53Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 11:54Speaker 4: Slowly, that'll be ready in an hour.
- 11:56Speaker 5: Two days after she arrived at her parents, I tried
- 11:59Speaker 5: calling her for an evening FaceTime or digital date. She
- 12:02Speaker 5: replied in text, I'm really happy to be here. And
- 12:05Speaker 5: for the first time, I don't even miss you. I'm sorry.
- 12:07Speaker 5: I don't want to talk tonight. I was hurt and
- 12:10Speaker 5: probed more.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:12Speaker 1: I'd be like, what?
- 12:13Speaker 5: What?
- 12:15Speaker 3: Yeah, that is like recipe 101 for just like to
- 12:19Speaker 3: ruin your relationship.
- 12:20Speaker 4: It's like, hey. You know, like the one thing that
- 12:22Speaker 4: we have to do is communicate. I don't want to
- 12:24Speaker 4: do that anymore. Yeah, I know, dude.
- 12:25Speaker 5: I don't even remember how I was crying when I
- 12:27Speaker 5: left and I said, I miss you.
- 12:29Speaker 1: I'm into this.
- 12:29Speaker 5: I actually, funny story.
- 12:32Speaker 4: Yeah, about that.
- 12:33Speaker 5: I don't care about you at all anymore.
- 12:35Speaker 4: So, no, I don't know.
- 12:37Speaker 5: Try again tomorrow.
- 12:38Speaker 4: Yeah, better luck next time, I guess.
- 12:40Speaker 5: She pushed me away, and so I left it for
- 12:42Speaker 5: the day. A few days later, she tells me that
- 12:45Speaker 5: she has reconnected with an old high school male friend.
- 12:49Speaker 5: I play it cool and say, with cheek, I'm jealous
- 12:52Speaker 5: of any time he gets with you. A few days
- 12:54Speaker 5: pass again with her showing zero signs of interest in me. Finally,
- 12:57Speaker 5: she sends a barrage of texts. I don't feel like
- 13:00Speaker 5: I love you anymore. I feel so happy and free now,
- 13:02Speaker 5: and I'm laughing so much with male friend.
- 13:05Speaker 4: I panic.
- 13:05Speaker 5: She tells me she can't help the way she feels,
- 13:07Speaker 5: and I should focus on my own life for now,
- 13:08Speaker 5: and that she won't leave me. A night ago, she
- 13:10Speaker 5: does it. What do you mean?
- 13:11Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Hold on a minute.
- 13:13Speaker 5: She's like, I don't love you, and I feel free,
- 13:16Speaker 5: and I have this new guy who makes me laugh
- 13:18Speaker 5: all the time, and you should be able to focus
- 13:20Speaker 5: on yourself. And also, don't worry. I'm not going to leave.
- 13:22Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 13:23Speaker 3: Just like the one thing that's ready to end the
- 13:26Speaker 3: relationship right there. Yeah, just don't worry about it. Everything's
- 13:29Speaker 3: going to be fine.
- 13:29Speaker 4: You'll be fine.
- 13:30Speaker 5: Like, if you have the delusional prowess to go, okay.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha, ha.
- 13:34Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, we're okay.
- 13:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 13:37Speaker 5: More power to you, buddy.
- 13:38Speaker 4: Just zero awareness at all. It's crazy.
- 13:40Speaker 5: A night ago, she does it again. She says, I
- 13:43Speaker 5: just feel so worked up all the time, and I
- 13:45Speaker 5: love the way male friend looks at me. It's like
- 13:48Speaker 5: an evil voice, and I'm so sorry it's happening. I
- 13:50Speaker 5: never wanted this, but you didn't show me the desire
- 13:53Speaker 5: I'm getting now. I want to be with him, and
- 13:56Speaker 5: with other guys at my new job. But I can't
- 13:58Speaker 5: because I'm with you, and now my evil voice in
- 14:00Speaker 5: my head is telling me you're a burden. I do
- 14:02Speaker 5: all I can to understand her and work on it.
- 14:04Speaker 5: You're just becoming annoying now. Please give me space. I'm
- 14:08Speaker 5: in so much pain, I shake all the time, I
- 14:09Speaker 5: can't eat and I can't sleep, I can't leave the apartment,
- 14:12Speaker 5: and I have shifts lined up for the next two weeks,
- 14:14Speaker 5: and a final in-person exam, and I cannot do anything
- 14:17Speaker 5: about it. I'm stuck seven hours away, and nothing my
- 14:19Speaker 5: fiancé says makes sense.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Go- I mean this in the nicest possible way.
- 14:23Speaker 5: That woman is not your fiance anymore, and there's no
- 14:27Speaker 5: universe in which you should not realize that right now.
- 14:31Speaker 3: Yeah, this relationship is like saying that ghosts are real
- 14:37Speaker 3: or not. There's no physical evidence that they're together anymore.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Your body is shaking.
- 14:42Speaker 5: You can't eat because you're fundamentally rejecting reality.
- 14:46Speaker 4: His body, yeah. He's literally going into psychosis right now.
- 14:49Speaker 5: You're just like, oh, this is fine.
- 14:51Speaker 4: What is real? I don't know what's real anymore.
- 14:54Speaker 5: I still have a fiance. I still have a fiance. Meanwhile,
- 14:57Speaker 5: his body is just like.
- 15:00Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. He's like six cents. He's like six cents
- 15:04Speaker 4: this whole thing with like a fiance. Yeah. The whole time. Man.
- 15:08Speaker 5: When she talks to me, it's like she's a whole
- 15:10Speaker 5: different person. I love this woman so much. We've planned
- 15:13Speaker 5: a whole life together and we're going to get married
- 15:15Speaker 5: in a few years and have kids. I've spoken to
- 15:18Speaker 5: her twin sister and she too does not recognize her.
- 15:22Speaker 5: And she's so angry at her for what she's doing.
- 15:25Speaker 5: What is happening? One thing I feel I should know,
- 15:28Speaker 5: but I feel ashamed and disturbed to suggest it. A
- 15:31Speaker 5: few days after we got engaged, she stopped taking her
- 15:34Speaker 5: pill because of migraines it was causing her, and she
- 15:36Speaker 5: wanted to try feeling normal. She has been on different
- 15:39Speaker 5: types of birth control. I've heard horror stories relating to
- 15:42Speaker 5: hormonal changes like this. Please don't be true. Well, there's
- 15:46Speaker 5: an update. It's been a month now and we broke up.
- 15:48Speaker 5: She slept with her male best friend three days later
- 15:50Speaker 5: and called me.
- 15:50Speaker 1: No.
- 15:52Speaker 4: No way.
- 15:52Speaker 5: Oh my God, she did?
- 15:54Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I don't know why I was surprised at that.
- 15:57Speaker 4: She did?
- 15:58Speaker 1: I was like, no.
- 15:59Speaker 5: She did the thing she told you she was going
- 16:00Speaker 5: to do?
- 16:01Speaker 4: Wait, she was spending all this time with him? She
- 16:03Speaker 4: slept with him? Why did I feel so surprised?
- 16:06Speaker 5: She called me to tell me about it because she
- 16:08Speaker 5: felt guilty. Yet, while also mentioning how good it was
- 16:11Speaker 5: and that she hasn't felt like that in a long time.
- 16:14Speaker 5: By the way, if this happened to you, go listen
- 16:17Speaker 5: to full episodes of Stories Just Like This on iHeartRadio.
- 16:20Speaker 5: Just search OK Storytime wherever you listen to podcasts.
- 16:22Speaker 4: And it's there.
- 16:23Speaker 5: Also, if this happened to you, I'm so sorry.
- 16:26Speaker 4: That's rough, dude.
- 16:27Speaker 5: At least you have the solace knowing her twin sister
- 16:30Speaker 5: is also like, yeah, no, whatever she's doing is so
- 16:33Speaker 5: out of pocket. I don't know what's going on.
- 16:36Speaker 4: Yeah, but then at that point, date the twin sister.
- 16:38Speaker 4: What are you going to do? Do you imagine her
- 16:40Speaker 4: twin sister cheated on him too? Well, we're twins. What
- 16:44Speaker 4: did you expect?
- 16:46Speaker 5: Twin sister starts dating him and she's like, I got
- 16:48Speaker 5: to tell you something.
- 16:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:50Speaker 5: It's like she actually had a fiance.
- 16:52Speaker 4: The whole time. He's the one that she's cheating.
- 16:55Speaker 5: Now you're the affair partner. I texted her a long
- 16:58Speaker 5: essay of all the red flags I've missed and why
- 17:01Speaker 5: I feel like I've been walked all over. I told
- 17:03Speaker 5: her to never talk to me again. She exploded and said,
- 17:06Speaker 5: I did nothing wrong. So yeah, she's lost it. It
- 17:10Speaker 5: turns out her parents and her twin are on my side.
- 17:13Speaker 5: Her parents said it's like she's in a late teenage
- 17:15Speaker 5: rebellion phase. I asked them to monitor it in case
- 17:18Speaker 5: it worsens. Do I feel like I passed away?
- 17:21Speaker 4: Yes.
- 17:22Speaker 5: Do I regret it? really i loved our relationship but
- 17:25Speaker 5: she's not the same person and those little red flags
- 17:28Speaker 5: throughout its entirety tell me she was never mature to
- 17:31Speaker 5: begin with i deserve better thank you everyone for your
- 17:34Speaker 5: advice you're all spot on and that is the end
- 17:37Speaker 5: of that story.
- 17:39Speaker 1: My girlfriend begged me to stop working out with my
- 17:41Speaker 1: ex i think she's unreasonable how.
- 17:43Speaker 4: About three sets of cheating huh.
- 17:45Speaker 1: My girlfriend Mia, 21 female, and I, 25 male, have
- 17:48Speaker 1: been dating for a couple of months, and we're in
- 17:50Speaker 1: a long-distance relationship. While we were still getting to know
- 17:53Speaker 1: each other, we asked each other about past relationships, so
- 17:56Speaker 1: I told her about my first and the only girlfriend
- 17:58Speaker 1: I had before her, Jess, 26 female. Jess and I
- 18:01Speaker 1: dated on and off from ages 12 to 15. She
- 18:03Speaker 1: often broke up with me, blocked me, and we got
- 18:06Speaker 1: back together. When we weren't dating, we were just friends
- 18:08Speaker 1: with benefits. Even after we ended things for good, She
- 18:11Speaker 1: remained my best friend despite not treating me well even after.
- 18:14Speaker 1: I asked Mia if she was jealous because she seemed
- 18:17Speaker 1: more quiet than usual. And she said she doesn't know
- 18:19Speaker 1: Jess well to be jealous and only had that reaction
- 18:21Speaker 1: based on what I said.
- 18:22Speaker 4: Yeah, so would I.
- 18:24Speaker 1: She said Jess doesn't sound like a nice friend or
- 18:26Speaker 1: was a nice girlfriend to me. I told her that
- 18:28Speaker 1: she just doesn't know her like I do and that
- 18:31Speaker 1: she doesn't have to worry about anything.
- 18:33Speaker 4: Babe, you just don't get it, dude.
- 18:35Speaker 5: Don't worry about her.
- 18:37Speaker 4: Dude. Oh my gosh. I'm getting like, I'm getting like
- 18:40Speaker 4: nom flashbacks.
- 18:43Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm shell shocked and just terrible relationships.
- 18:46Speaker 4: Yeah. Fortunate sons playing in the background.
- 18:52Speaker 1: When Mia bought her ticket, I excitedly told all my
- 18:55Speaker 1: friends because I wanted them all to meet her. Jess
- 18:57Speaker 1: said she was excited to meet Mia and suggested we
- 18:59Speaker 1: all could show her around town. This made Mia really
- 19:02Speaker 1: upset because she said the way I described it made
- 19:05Speaker 1: her feel like Jess and I were the we and
- 19:07Speaker 1: she'd be the third wheel. I apologized and that was that.
- 19:11Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user EqualVisual7676. And if
- 19:15Speaker 1: you want to submit your own stories, go to the
- 19:16Speaker 1: r slash OKStoryTime subreddit. I'm Keon.
- 19:19Speaker 4: I'm Mike.
- 19:20Speaker 5: I'm Riley. And Mike's my good comedy friend. And Keon's
- 19:23Speaker 5: my awesome producer.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Aw, thanks, Riley. And Riley's just my guy. Obviously, us
- 19:29Speaker 1: three don't know everything, especially with these comments. So let
- 19:32Speaker 1: us know what you do down below as we're going
- 19:34Speaker 1: to keep going into the story and just, man. This
- 19:37Speaker 1: is not looking good.
- 19:38Speaker 4: No, absolutely not.
- 19:40Speaker 1: As OP says, a few weeks later, Jess spontaneously asked
- 19:43Speaker 1: me to work out. Afterward, we agreed to make it
- 19:46Speaker 1: a weekly thing. When I told my girlfriend, she said
- 19:48Speaker 1: it made her uncomfortable. i told her that we're just
- 19:51Speaker 1: working out and holding each other accountable to do it
- 19:53Speaker 1: every week mia asked what she's supposed to do or
- 19:56Speaker 1: go when she comes visit and we're on our workout
- 19:58Speaker 1: days I told Mia that she can just come with
- 20:01Speaker 1: us and work out. Mia said that sounds like she's
- 20:03Speaker 1: the third wheel again. She said it makes her feel
- 20:05Speaker 1: like Jess and I are together and not the other
- 20:07Speaker 1: way around. I reassured her that it's not like that
- 20:10Speaker 1: and we're just working out.
- 20:13Speaker 4: Yeah, just workout buddies.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Nope. She then asked why Jess's fiance didn't work out
- 20:19Speaker 1: with her. I texted Jess and she said it was
- 20:21Speaker 1: because of his work. Mia then asked if Jess would
- 20:23Speaker 1: be okay with her joining. I asked and Jess said
- 20:25Speaker 1: she wasn't comfortable with another woman being there.
- 20:28Speaker 4: No. Really? Oh my god, dude. These guys are terrible
- 20:34Speaker 4: for each other. This is insane.
- 20:36Speaker 1: I told my girlfriend it wasn't a big deal. Maybe
- 20:39Speaker 1: Jess was just a little self-conscious. My girlfriend then told
- 20:42Speaker 1: me that when she wanted to go to a concert
- 20:43Speaker 1: with a guy friend or go watch a movie, I
- 20:45Speaker 1: told her I don't trust her friend and she respected
- 20:47Speaker 1: my wishes and she didn't go. I told her it
- 20:49Speaker 1: was different because I knew what guys were like. Dude.
- 20:53Speaker 4: Dude.
- 20:54Speaker 5: Airplane coming in.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Airplane coming in here. I'm waving two red flags. You suck.
- 21:01Speaker 5: What is happening?
- 21:02Speaker 1: You suck. No way this is real.
- 21:05Speaker 4: Dude.
- 21:05Speaker 5: This is the type of guy that says, let's open
- 21:07Speaker 5: up the relationship, but I can only sleep with her.
- 21:09Speaker 4: Yeah, only I can be banging everybody, dude.
- 21:12Speaker 1: I told my girlfriend that I was just working out
- 21:14Speaker 1: with my ex. I told her it feels like she's
- 21:15Speaker 1: accusing me and Jess of doing something slim shady. Mia
- 21:18Speaker 1: told me she wasn't judging me or Jess of doing anything.
- 21:21Speaker 1: She simply just didn't know Jess yet and wasn't comfortable,
- 21:24Speaker 1: same as me, not being comfortable with her guy friends.
- 21:27Speaker 1: She said to meet her in the middle and asked
- 21:28Speaker 1: if I could wait until she met Jess and got
- 21:30Speaker 1: to know her before doing any of these workouts. I
- 21:32Speaker 1: told her that was unfair to Jess and that I
- 21:35Speaker 1: think she just needs to accept the way things are.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Mia cried and she hung up. She hasn't talked to
- 21:39Speaker 1: me for days. Am I the a-hole? And there's a verdict.
- 21:42Speaker 1: And everyone here with a brain knows that, yeah.
- 21:47Speaker 4: Giant.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Giant chocolate starfish.
- 21:50Speaker 4: Massive. A-hole, dude.
- 21:52Speaker 1: It's hard because you always get the perspective of the partner. Like, oh,
- 21:57Speaker 1: should I stick with them? And they're like, no, they're
- 22:00Speaker 1: the A-hole.
- 22:00Speaker 3: Yeah, this one is you make it hard not to
- 22:04Speaker 3: hate you.
- 22:05Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 22:05Speaker 1: We have an update. There's no other words. Anything else
- 22:07Speaker 1: you guys had to say?
- 22:08Speaker 4: I have no other words. No, nothing. Update.
- 22:10Speaker 1: I told Jess about what happened when we went to
- 22:12Speaker 1: work out three days ago. She didn't say much about it,
- 22:14Speaker 1: only that I didn't listen or wasn't being understanding of
- 22:17Speaker 1: what Mia felt, but nothing after that. She looked stressed
- 22:20Speaker 1: or disappointed. So I asked her, what's up? She told
- 22:23Speaker 1: me she'll tell me afterwards. When we got to the
- 22:25Speaker 1: parking lot, she told me that we can't work out
- 22:27Speaker 1: together anymore because her fiance found out and he was
- 22:29Speaker 1: also uncomfortable about it. And they had a long talk
- 22:32Speaker 1: about it. Good.
- 22:33Speaker 4: Yep.
- 22:34Speaker 5: At least someone's prioritizing their relationship.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I guarantee you Opie is like, all men are scummy.
- 22:38Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 22:39Speaker 1: He's like, what an idiot. Can't trust you. You should
- 22:42Speaker 1: marry me instead. Jess said that she didn't get it
- 22:44Speaker 1: at first, so she tried to explain that her friendship
- 22:46Speaker 1: with me is different from any other friendships. And he
- 22:49Speaker 1: told her that it's not only different, but it's dangerous.
- 22:52Speaker 1: He said because we have history, that we dated, we
- 22:55Speaker 1: were friends with benefits, and that we relied on each
- 22:57Speaker 1: other for years before each finding our person, but we
- 23:00Speaker 1: never had boundaries to just be friends. He said he
- 23:02Speaker 1: knows that I'm a good person from me hanging out
- 23:05Speaker 1: with them a couple of times, but he's felt territorial
- 23:07Speaker 1: and uncomfortable sometimes. So he asked Jess how she would
- 23:10Speaker 1: feel if her fiancé told her, Hey, I'm going to
- 23:13Speaker 1: work out weekly with my ex. Don't worry, we're just
- 23:15Speaker 1: best friends now. See you later. He said Jess would
- 23:18Speaker 1: obviously be uncomfortable, and that's how Mia probably feels. He
- 23:21Speaker 1: said it's not fair that he should have to make
- 23:23Speaker 1: a boundary between them now, and he assumes Mia has
- 23:26Speaker 1: to make a boundary about this to me. He said
- 23:28Speaker 1: this boundary should have been already implied, because you love
- 23:30Speaker 1: and respect your person, to not wait around until they
- 23:33Speaker 1: get hurt to do something about it. Jess said she
- 23:35Speaker 1: realized he was right. She's hurt that she hurt him
- 23:38Speaker 1: and that she was being ignorant. And the light's still
- 23:41Speaker 1: not turning on for OP. He's like, I still don't
- 23:44Speaker 1: get it.
- 23:44Speaker 3: This is a light bulb that's just unscrewed and pretending
- 23:49Speaker 3: to be in place. Yeah. And OP is just clicking
- 23:53Speaker 3: the thing. What's going on up there?
- 23:55Speaker 1: It's not working. If I keep pulling on it, will
- 23:57Speaker 1: it work? And Jess continued saying she would be uncomfortable
- 24:00Speaker 1: if her fiance went working out with his ex. And
- 24:03Speaker 1: she said it's the first time she thought about being jealous.
- 24:06Speaker 1: So we stopped working out and she stopped reaching out
- 24:09Speaker 1: or texting me much after that. Mia and I made up.
- 24:11Speaker 1: I apologized for being an a-hole. I told her what
- 24:13Speaker 1: Jess and her fiance said. Mia said she's mind blown
- 24:16Speaker 1: that Jess's fiance got it right, but is still hurt
- 24:19Speaker 1: by what happened. I promise to make up for it
- 24:21Speaker 1: and that I already have some dates planned and reserved
- 24:23Speaker 1: for when she visits and I'm paying for everything. I
- 24:25Speaker 1: know I need to keep showing her through my actions
- 24:27Speaker 1: that I meant my apology. She's coming in three weeks
- 24:30Speaker 1: and we're both really excited. Dude, you're an idiot.
- 24:33Speaker 3: This guy is a grade A dummy, dude. The fact
- 24:39Speaker 3: that they're just like, yo, listen, I'm hanging out with
- 24:44Speaker 3: my ex. Yeah, we've hooked up for like, Yeah, about
- 24:48Speaker 3: like 10 years now.
- 24:49Speaker 1: We have a history.
- 24:51Speaker 5: On and off again.
- 24:52Speaker 4: On and off again. Like 10 years.
- 24:56Speaker 1: She's like a sister to me.
- 24:58Speaker 4: And we're in Alabama right now. Yeah. We are in.
- 25:01Speaker 5: Anywhere else, we just say step.
- 25:04Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:05Speaker 1: There's a little bit left here. Let's go ahead and
- 25:06Speaker 1: finish it up. Relevant comments. 78 October says, I don't
- 25:10Speaker 1: think I could continue a relationship with someone who had
- 25:12Speaker 1: rules for me. No concerts with guy friends and not
- 25:15Speaker 1: for himself going to the gym with an ex while
- 25:18Speaker 1: also diminishing my feelings and needing a third party to
- 25:20Speaker 1: explain to him. If Jess's boyfriend hadn't had a problem
- 25:23Speaker 1: with it and just wanted to continue working out, then
- 25:26Speaker 1: you would have ignored your girlfriend's feelings. She should take
- 25:28Speaker 1: all that into account before continuing to date you. If
- 25:31Speaker 1: she sticks it out with you, then take the effort
- 25:33Speaker 1: to listen to her and not only care about her
- 25:35Speaker 1: feelings when other people explain it to you. Opie responds,
- 25:39Speaker 1: and I love this, it's heavily downvoted, saying, I grew
- 25:42Speaker 1: up with divorced parents, but they remained friends afterwards. My
- 25:46Speaker 1: dad and stepmom broke up also, but remained friends. My
- 25:49Speaker 1: mom and her boyfriends broke up, but they remained friends too.
- 25:52Speaker 1: So being friends with an ex isn't abnormal or weird
- 25:55Speaker 1: for me. Me and I have talked about this, and
- 25:58Speaker 1: we have the same beliefs that exes can be friends. So,
- 26:00Speaker 1: when she felt a certain way, I thought she was
- 26:03Speaker 1: thinking I'm cheating on her, even though I'm not. I
- 26:06Speaker 1: trusted Mia would be okay with this. I think what
- 26:09Speaker 1: bothered or changed me about what happened was that I
- 26:12Speaker 1: thought just his fiancé knew. So in my mind, I
- 26:15Speaker 1: was thinking, Look at this guy. That's older than all
- 26:18Speaker 1: of us and probably knows what a healthy relationship is.
- 26:21Speaker 1: That's why she chose him and they're getting married. Maybe
- 26:24Speaker 1: he knows that this is okay too and he trusts
- 26:26Speaker 1: Jess and we're not doing anything wrong. And maybe Mia's
- 26:29Speaker 1: just very young. She's the youngest out of all of
- 26:32Speaker 1: us and maybe she just needs to learn that this
- 26:34Speaker 1: is a-okay. But when Jess's fiance didn't even know and
- 26:37Speaker 1: finding out he was uncomfortable... I realized that Mia had
- 26:40Speaker 1: also a legit feeling. So I acknowledge my mistakes, and
- 26:43Speaker 1: I'm making it up to her now. Another comment here
- 26:46Speaker 1: from Extended Spike Protein, cool name, saying, That's the problem.
- 26:50Speaker 1: You should have realized her feelings were legit without a
- 26:52Speaker 1: third party. And, You're a hypocrite. OP replying with, again,
- 26:57Speaker 1: still downvoted. How could I have realized that without knowing
- 27:00Speaker 1: what I know now? Was I supposed to be an
- 27:02Speaker 1: expert in my relationship with my girlfriend before we got together?
- 27:05Speaker 1: Nia does not deserve you. Nobody deserves you.
- 27:09Speaker 4: No.
- 27:09Speaker 3: This is, I mean, like, talk about a guy. This
- 27:14Speaker 3: guy needs to get cheated on.
- 27:15Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, he really does.
- 27:18Speaker 3: Because, like, this is insane to just be like, Yeah,
- 27:23Speaker 3: I have no problems with just hanging out. Yeah, we
- 27:26Speaker 3: bang every now and then, but that's neither here nor there.
- 27:29Speaker 4: How dumb do you have to be?
- 27:31Speaker 1: I like controlling my girlfriend, her friendships. But when she
- 27:34Speaker 1: tries to do it with me, she just doesn't get it.
- 27:37Speaker 3: God, it's just like every time she speaks, I just
- 27:39Speaker 3: like tune out. Only when she speaks, though, and shares
- 27:42Speaker 3: her opinion.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Yeah, when she's feeling something that I don't agree with,
- 27:45Speaker 1: she's wrong. It doesn't make any sense. That is the
- 27:49Speaker 1: end of that story. And wow, oh, wow, Opie, you suck. Hey,
- 27:54Speaker 1: Keon here. We're going to get back to the stories,
- 27:56Speaker 1: but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.
- 27:58Speaker 3: My husband's family are furious I won't let his sister
- 28:02Speaker 3: visit our newborn.
- 28:04Speaker 4: It started a war.
- 28:05Speaker 5: Oh my god, you closed the straight?
- 28:07Speaker 3: Throughout my pregnancy, I haven't heard from one of his
- 28:10Speaker 3: sisters once. No congratulations, no check-ins, that's fine. I'm okay
- 28:15Speaker 3: with that. I have a huge support network, which I'm
- 28:18Speaker 3: so grateful for. This sister is 23, and she has
- 28:22Speaker 3: never been nice to me. She hasn't gotten a reason
- 28:24Speaker 3: to dislike me, but she is very rude and bratty.
- 28:28Speaker 3: She messaged my partner saying she wants to visit the
- 28:31Speaker 3: bump before it is born. She lives about two hours away,
- 28:35Speaker 3: but visits the area fairly often. When she found out
- 28:38Speaker 3: about my C-section date, she asked my partner if her
- 28:41Speaker 3: and her BF could come over before they went on
- 28:43Speaker 3: holiday for a week. This would mean coming over a
- 28:46Speaker 3: day or two after my operation. My partner FaceTimed her
- 28:50Speaker 3: two hours after she was born. She didn't say anything
- 28:53Speaker 3: to me. She just said to my partner, are we
- 28:55Speaker 3: going to shorten her name? In fact, her boyfriend, who
- 28:58Speaker 3: I'm not close with, jumped in specifically to ask me
- 29:02Speaker 3: how I was doing. By the way, this comes from
- 29:04Speaker 3: you slash famous repeat 2501. And if you want to
- 29:07Speaker 3: submit your own stories, go to r slash okay story
- 29:10Speaker 3: time subreddit.
- 29:10Speaker 4: I'm Mike.
- 29:11Speaker 5: I'm Dakota.
- 29:12Speaker 3: And today we're here to give good advice goofily, but
- 29:15Speaker 3: we don't know all the answers. But yeah, if you
- 29:18Speaker 3: guys have anything to say, sound off in the comments below.
- 29:20Speaker 3: But other than that, as OP says, How can I
- 29:23Speaker 3: handle the sister-in-law situation? I actually do not want her
- 29:27Speaker 3: around my house for a few weeks, if I'm honest,
- 29:30Speaker 3: or if so. I actually want her to be pulled
- 29:32Speaker 3: up on her behavior. Just because she's blood does not
- 29:35Speaker 3: give her instant access. She checked in later that day
- 29:39Speaker 3: asking my partner, how her niece was. To put it
- 29:41Speaker 3: into context, my partner's parents spent a lot of money
- 29:44Speaker 3: on a jellycat B-toy for my baby, which this girl
- 29:47Speaker 3: is obsessed with the brand. They had to hide it
- 29:50Speaker 3: from her in case she saw it. This is what
- 29:52Speaker 3: I'm dealing with.
- 29:53Speaker 5: Wait, so you're saying if she would have seen the
- 29:55Speaker 5: baby's gift, she would.
- 29:56Speaker 4: Have stolen it? From the jump, dude. This kid knows
- 29:59Speaker 4: what's up.
- 29:59Speaker 3: There's situations a hundred times worse than this, and this
- 30:03Speaker 3: girl is a neonatal nurse. So it's not like she
- 30:06Speaker 3: doesn't know how to handle postpartum.
- 30:07Speaker 4: Mothers, right? Yeah, OP. Um, I don't know, dude.
- 30:12Speaker 3: This is this kind of Well, as a man, that
- 30:15Speaker 3: should be telling you how a pregnancy should go or
- 30:18Speaker 3: how you should handle your baby.
- 30:20Speaker 5: Exactly.
- 30:21Speaker 4: You know, you're coming from the source. Right.
- 30:23Speaker 5: We gave you the rib.
- 30:25Speaker 4: You did come from our rib. You did come from
- 30:27Speaker 4: our McRib. I don't know, dude. Maybe just don't be petty.
- 30:33Speaker 3: I mean, I get that you don't mess with your sister,
- 30:38Speaker 3: your in-laws, you know. But this stuff can kind of
- 30:42Speaker 3: turn into... some, some real nasty stuff in the future.
- 30:46Speaker 3: You know, we could be real, we could be real
- 30:49Speaker 3: petty at times.
- 30:50Speaker 5: I mean, literally you have the perfect out of just
- 30:52Speaker 5: being like, yeah, no, I don't know. I'm not ready
- 30:54Speaker 5: to have any visitors. It's only like two days after
- 30:56Speaker 5: I had major surgery and deliver my baby.
- 30:58Speaker 4: That is true.
- 30:59Speaker 5: Like you're going to have to wait a little longer.
- 31:01Speaker 4: That is true. You can have like a couple.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Yeah. Like you say, you have a couple of weeks,
- 31:05Speaker 3: maybe like, like a two months or so to like
- 31:07Speaker 3: really kind of let things, let things settle.
- 31:10Speaker 4: Well, we got an update.
- 31:12Speaker 3: So 11 days later, I'm now just over two weeks
- 31:16Speaker 3: postpartum and she still hasn't contacted me personally to ask
- 31:19Speaker 3: how I'm recovering. She has, however, asked my partner about
- 31:23Speaker 3: meeting the baby. My partner initially told her she could
- 31:26Speaker 3: visit next time, which he now admits he shouldn't have promised.
- 31:30Speaker 3: When he recently said we were still in a bit
- 31:32Speaker 3: of newborn bubble. She replied that my family and his
- 31:36Speaker 3: parents had already met the baby, that he promised that
- 31:38Speaker 3: she could come. The following day, she sent him another
- 31:42Speaker 3: message saying she didn't understand why she wasn't being allowed
- 31:45Speaker 3: to meet her niece. She said their mom had told
- 31:48Speaker 3: her we apparently had some sort of issue with her,
- 31:51Speaker 3: accused my partner of ignoring her, and said it wasn't
- 31:54Speaker 3: nice to be treated this way by her older brother.
- 31:56Speaker 3: The mom he spoke to the day before to advise
- 31:59Speaker 3: her that he was annoyed that the sister hadn't checked
- 32:01Speaker 3: in on me and now expected to come over immediately.
- 32:04Speaker 3: The mom phoned him back late at night to advise
- 32:07Speaker 3: my partner his sister had just told him she was
- 32:09Speaker 3: suffering from depression and that she hadn't told anyone. This
- 32:12Speaker 3: is when my partner finally addressed the actual issue. He
- 32:15Speaker 3: told her that although he promised she could visit and
- 32:18Speaker 3: accepted he should have addressed it sooner, I'd been pregnant
- 32:20Speaker 3: for nine months and she hadn't checked in on me.
- 32:23Speaker 3: He pointed out that when we FaceTimed her after the birth,
- 32:26Speaker 3: even her boyfriend had to ask how I was. He
- 32:29Speaker 3: specifically told her that I wasn't the one with an
- 32:31Speaker 3: issue with her, he was, because he thought the way
- 32:34Speaker 3: she treated me was out of order. He then told
- 32:36Speaker 3: her he had more important things to worry about than
- 32:39Speaker 3: keeping her happy because he had a newborn daughter to
- 32:42Speaker 3: care for. He said she would meet the baby and
- 32:44Speaker 3: have a relationship with her because she's her aunt, but
- 32:47Speaker 3: that it would happen in his own time. He told
- 32:49Speaker 3: her to stop making the situation about herself and to
- 32:52Speaker 3: buck her ideas up. She responded with a huge message
- 32:56Speaker 3: saying he was being spiteful and that her whole family
- 33:00Speaker 3: thinks she's done nothing wrong. She said we're not letting
- 33:03Speaker 3: her be part of our daughter's life and asked how
- 33:05Speaker 3: it's fair on our two-week-old baby to not let her
- 33:08Speaker 3: see her.
- 33:09Speaker 4: Auntie at all.
- 33:10Speaker 5: I'd say, hey, stupid. Knock, knock.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Can you read?
- 33:12Speaker 5: Did you hear anything I said? Do you know? Do
- 33:15Speaker 5: you understand words?
- 33:16Speaker 4: Hey, the conversation that we had just now, did you
- 33:20Speaker 4: pick up on that?
- 33:21Speaker 5: Run that one back for me real quick.
- 33:23Speaker 4: Get a little VAR for you, all right?
- 33:25Speaker 7: She's going to be like, yeah, well, you told me
- 33:29Speaker 7: that you hate me and that everyone thinks I'm stupid
- 33:34Speaker 7: and that I'm never going to get to see my
- 33:36Speaker 7: little niece again.
- 33:38Speaker 5: Cause you hate me.
- 33:40Speaker 3: But you didn't tell me that your boyfriend had to
- 33:43Speaker 3: look up on me.
- 33:45Speaker 4: What is the deal with that?
- 33:47Speaker 3: She also denied that making an effort with me. She
- 33:51Speaker 3: said she had asked my partner for updates about me
- 33:53Speaker 3: during my pregnancy, had invited me to things I couldn't attend,
- 33:56Speaker 3: had apparently messaged me when we first announced the pregnancy
- 34:00Speaker 3: to congratulate me, and had contributed towards birthday and Christmas
- 34:04Speaker 3: presents for me. We scrolled through previous correspondence and she
- 34:08Speaker 3: only said, I want to see the bump before it
- 34:10Speaker 3: is born. She finished by saying that if my partner
- 34:12Speaker 3: was going to say things about her that weren't true
- 34:15Speaker 3: and be so mean, she didn't want anything to do
- 34:17Speaker 3: with him, but that our daughter was a different matter.
- 34:20Speaker 3: She has since phoned their mom crying again about the
- 34:23Speaker 3: whole situation. The mom keeps trying to call my partner.
- 34:26Speaker 3: This alone is darn annoying and pretty out of touch
- 34:29Speaker 3: given we got bigger priorities.
- 34:31Speaker 4: Context.
- 34:33Speaker 3: The reason my family have been around is because I've
- 34:35Speaker 3: just had a C-section and they've been helping to look
- 34:38Speaker 3: after me and support us. We're not hosting a revolving
- 34:40Speaker 3: door of people for social visits. I'm not saying she
- 34:43Speaker 3: can never meet our daughter. Neither is my partner. We're
- 34:46Speaker 3: literally two weeks into having our first baby. My issue
- 34:49Speaker 3: is now that... What could have been is a simple,
- 34:51Speaker 3: of course, let us know when you're ready. Has turned
- 34:54Speaker 3: into arguments about fairness, comparisons with my family, presents she's bought,
- 34:58Speaker 3: what she's entitled to as an aunt, involving their mom
- 35:01Speaker 3: and saying it's somehow unfair on our newborn that she
- 35:04Speaker 3: hasn't met her auntie yet. That is another relevant update.
- 35:08Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what?
- 35:09Speaker 2: I'm going to coin this.
- 35:10Speaker 5: I'm going to call this the British way of taking
- 35:13Speaker 5: care of an easy problem.
- 35:15Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.
- 35:16Speaker 5: Don't do that way.
- 35:17Speaker 4: Listen, tensions are rising. Things are getting crazy.
- 35:21Speaker 3: I mean, there is a British bake-off going on right now.
- 35:27Speaker 5: The bake-off already happened. It was a nine-month bake-off.
- 35:29Speaker 4: In Opie's uterus. Thank you for saying that. Thank you
- 35:34Speaker 4: for saying that.
- 35:34Speaker 3: And let me tell you, there's some heat going on
- 35:37Speaker 3: between these guys right now.
- 35:39Speaker 5: There's a lot of heat in this kitchen.
- 35:41Speaker 4: There's a lot of heat in this kitchen.
- 35:42Speaker 5: Great time to mention that you had a problem with
- 35:44Speaker 5: your sister would have been five months ago. Instead of
- 35:50Speaker 5: just letting it ferment all the way up until you
- 35:53Speaker 5: are two weeks post delivery. And then you're like, well,
- 35:58Speaker 5: someone needed to say it. It's like, you should have
- 36:01Speaker 5: just said it, dude.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Like, why?
- 36:02Speaker 3: Why?
- 36:03Speaker 5: Now it's like, now it's this and that and this.
- 36:08Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, it's kind of your fault too.
- 36:11Speaker 4: Beating around the bush. Come on now.
- 36:14Speaker 5: Well, but absolutely wild that she went.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:17Speaker 5: She doubled down.
- 36:18Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
- 36:19Speaker 5: She doubled down and was like, well, remember I got you.
- 36:21Speaker 4: A Christmas present. Triple down on that, bro. That was insane.
- 36:25Speaker 3: Well, we have the last of this story we got
- 36:27Speaker 3: to get to. So Reddit taking into account her side
- 36:32Speaker 3: of the WhatsApp conversation too. Am I the a-hole for
- 36:35Speaker 3: not wanting her to visit yet? Am I feeling so
- 36:37Speaker 3: anxious now that our bubble has burst and I'm pretty
- 36:40Speaker 3: shocked that somebody can have such a go at, slash
- 36:42Speaker 3: demand to see a newborn two weeks in, one week.
- 36:46Speaker 4: Of which she was actually away for.
- 36:48Speaker 3: This afternoon, his mom left a sleep suit on the
- 36:51Speaker 3: doorstep with a paper note addressing our child from her auntie.
- 36:55Speaker 3: Not sure if it's his mom's doing or not.
- 36:58Speaker 4: That is the story.
- 37:00Speaker 5: Let's see, what did the note say? Dear sweet little
- 37:03Speaker 5: baby niece, your parents... think I'm the devil, so they
- 37:08Speaker 5: won't let me see you.
- 37:09Speaker 3: It has been a fortnight since I've last seen you.
- 37:12Speaker 5: It's been a fortnight since your birth. I fear your
- 37:17Speaker 5: parents plan to keep me from you forever.
- 37:22Speaker 3: Your mum has believed I have become a witch, and
- 37:25Speaker 3: in my witch's cauldron, I brew a potion that could
- 37:31Speaker 3: get us together as a family.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Put on this sleep suit.
- 37:36Speaker 7: And my potions will make you love me forever.
- 37:41Speaker 4: I hope you get enough Jim Jammies at night. Thought
- 37:45Speaker 4: I'd forget.
- 37:46Speaker 2: Remember, if Mommy and Daddy don't let you.
- 37:49Speaker 7: Eat Jammie Dodgers, you can always come over to Auntie's house.
- 37:54Speaker 4: I am just a hop, skip, and a jump away.
- 37:57Speaker 4: Come down the old creek.
- 38:00Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 38:02Speaker 1: go on to the next one.
- 38:04Speaker 6: I am jealous of my sister's relationship, and it's making
- 38:07Speaker 6: me resent my boyfriend. Whoa, don't be jealous, old girl. I,
- 38:11Speaker 6: 23 female, have been dating my boyfriend, Gerald, 22 male,
- 38:15Speaker 6: for over a year now. And I'm realizing that we
- 38:18Speaker 6: never really did anything during the relationship. Before lockdown, we'd
- 38:22Speaker 6: go out to eat and watch anime at his place,
- 38:24Speaker 6: but that's it.
- 38:25Speaker 2: And what's wrong with that?
- 38:26Speaker 4: Ain't nothing wrong.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds really fun.
- 38:30Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like a pretty good date.
- 38:33Speaker 2: Now that I look.
- 38:33Speaker 6: Back on it, we never really did anything special and
- 38:36Speaker 6: he never did anything nice for me. Like we went
- 38:39Speaker 6: out to the boardwalk for a date, I planned, but
- 38:42Speaker 6: he wanted to spend it playing arcade games. When I
- 38:44Speaker 6: suggested various rides we can go on, he chickened out
- 38:47Speaker 6: and said that those kinds of attractions freak him out.
- 38:50Speaker 2: That's a legitimate concern, I feel. A lot of people have,
- 38:54Speaker 2: you know, fear of like roller coasters and stuff.
- 38:57Speaker 5: I feel like that's normal.
- 38:58Speaker 4: Yeah. Kind of sounds like Opie's framing it as like, yeah,
- 39:01Speaker 4: we just have nothing in common.
- 39:02Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's like, no, he's just, I don't know.
- 39:05Speaker 6: Like he, he likes to game. He likes to spend
- 39:07Speaker 6: time with you. Like he's not being like mean.
- 39:09Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 39:11Speaker 6: Dates with him were just getting takeout and playing video
- 39:14Speaker 6: games or watching him and his friends game.
- 39:16Speaker 4: Okay. Well.
- 39:16Speaker 5: No.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 39:17Speaker 4: Do you want to, do you want to go back on?
- 39:19Speaker 4: I think we started to backtrack over here.
- 39:21Speaker 6: Puddle and say uh yeah well that's not cool have
- 39:25Speaker 6: you talked to him though about it have you been
- 39:26Speaker 6: like hey can we do something else rather than this
- 39:28Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be extreme like, oh, let's go
- 39:30Speaker 6: to an amusement park or anything, but be like, oh,
- 39:32Speaker 6: I want to go to a museum or have a
- 39:34Speaker 6: picnic in the park or something.
- 39:36Speaker 4: Love picnics in a park. So fun.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Me too.
- 39:39Speaker 6: It's just like something to do, an activity, you know,
- 39:41Speaker 6: even do like escape room or like some, I don't know,
- 39:45Speaker 6: a dinner theater.
- 39:46Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 39:46Speaker 4: You know how to plan, huh? Oh my gosh, dude.
- 39:49Speaker 2: I do know how to plan. It's in my blood.
- 39:52Speaker 6: He has been faltering in other parts of his life lately.
- 39:56Speaker 6: Lost his job, but shows no interest in applying for work.
- 39:59Speaker 6: Does nothing but sleep or play video games, and he's
- 40:01Speaker 6: gained like 50 pounds.
- 40:03Speaker 2: All right, so he's depressed.
- 40:05Speaker 4: This guy is suffering from depression.
- 40:07Speaker 6: Yeah, so this guy is depressed, and I don't think
- 40:11Speaker 6: you need to take that out on him. I think
- 40:12Speaker 6: you need to recognize that and be like, how can
- 40:15Speaker 6: I help you?
- 40:16Speaker 2: You know, be a team.
- 40:17Speaker 4: Hey, buddy. Touch grass, okay?
- 40:20Speaker 2: And there you go.
- 40:21Speaker 6: Since we've been apart, I've grown to resent him for
- 40:23Speaker 6: never taking the initiative. It feels like I never really
- 40:27Speaker 6: had a relationship with him. That he's more of just
- 40:29Speaker 6: a friend than a boyfriend. By the way, this comes
- 40:32Speaker 6: from Throwaway Resentful. And if you want to submit your
- 40:35Speaker 6: own stories, go to the r slash okay story time subreddit.
- 40:37Speaker 2: I'm Savannah.
- 40:38Speaker 4: And I'm Mike.
- 40:39Speaker 6: And we are here to talk about some stuff, get
- 40:40Speaker 6: some advice, but we don't have all of your answers.
- 40:42Speaker 6: We are only going to tell you what we would do.
- 40:45Speaker 6: But you should let us know what you would do down.
- 40:46Speaker 2: In the comments.
- 40:48Speaker 6: As Opie says, Meanwhile, my sister, 19 female, and my
- 40:52Speaker 6: best friend are dating incredible guys.
- 40:55Speaker 2: They're handsome, driven, and hardworking. They're proactive.
- 40:59Speaker 6: They take them out and do fun stuff like hiking
- 41:01Speaker 6: or picnics or even do Zoom chats. But instead of
- 41:04Speaker 6: video games and TV, they're playing games and even just chatting.
- 41:08Speaker 6: My sister is even planning on moving overseas to be
- 41:11Speaker 6: with her dude. I want the kind of relationship they're having,
- 41:14Speaker 6: but my boyfriend doesn't seem to get the picture no
- 41:16Speaker 6: matter how many times I've tried to talk to him.
- 41:19Speaker 6: And here I am stuck with this guy that I
- 41:21Speaker 6: just can't feel anything more than resentment. I want him
- 41:24Speaker 6: to push himself and show that he actually gives a
- 41:28Speaker 6: frick about things, but instead he just sits on the
- 41:31Speaker 6: couch with his eyes locked on the screen and I
- 41:34Speaker 6: can't stand it anymore. How do I get over my
- 41:36Speaker 6: resentment for my boyfriend? And if possible, How to rein
- 41:39Speaker 6: in my jealousy? Sorry if it's a lot to ask.
- 41:42Speaker 6: And there's an update.
- 41:43Speaker 2: So first of all, I'm going to say do not compare.
- 41:47Speaker 6: You cannot compare relationships because every relationship is different. Like
- 41:50Speaker 6: you may just see the good sides. You don't know
- 41:52Speaker 6: what's happening in the background. You know, every relationship might
- 41:55Speaker 6: look good on the outside, but then when you actually
- 41:57Speaker 6: are in it, it could be a nightmare. So don't
- 42:00Speaker 6: compare is my first advice here.
- 42:04Speaker 3: Yeah, also, too, it kind of sounds like to me, like,
- 42:06Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be funny, but, like, it does
- 42:08Speaker 3: sound like you do really, like, love this guy because, like,
- 42:11Speaker 3: you're getting angry about it.
- 42:14Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 42:15Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like you do care.
- 42:17Speaker 6: But at the same time, she's resentful and she doesn't really, like,
- 42:20Speaker 6: I feel like you kind of just want to break
- 42:22Speaker 6: up with him, which sometimes that's the push they need.
- 42:25Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all it is. That's all it takes.
- 42:27Speaker 6: It's like you could give them the ultimatum of saying,
- 42:31Speaker 6: you know, if you're not going to.
- 42:32Speaker 4: Smear the games, babe.
- 42:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to play a game now. If you don't, like,
- 42:37Speaker 2: wake up and smell the roses.
- 42:38Speaker 4: It's called how long is this relationship going to go for?
- 42:41Speaker 4: How long is it going to last?
- 42:42Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like you can, you know, do everything under
- 42:45Speaker 6: the sun, but the thing is he has to recognize
- 42:47Speaker 6: that he's in a low place and he needs to
- 42:50Speaker 6: try to figure it out and maybe get in a
- 42:52Speaker 6: routine and find a job and, you know, start moving
- 42:57Speaker 6: towards something.
- 42:58Speaker 2: He needs ghouls, you know?
- 42:59Speaker 4: So... Get him motivated.
- 43:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 43:02Speaker 4: Find a way to motivate him.
- 43:04Speaker 6: And I think as for like the jealousy, same thing
- 43:07Speaker 6: that I said before, just like you can't compare because
- 43:10Speaker 6: comparing is going to make you.
- 43:12Speaker 2: Overthink and be like, why don't I have this? Why
- 43:14Speaker 2: don't I have this?
- 43:15Speaker 6: And it's like, but you don't even know what you
- 43:18Speaker 6: really want. Like, what do you truly want? You know,
- 43:20Speaker 6: and express that to your boyfriend and be like, hey,
- 43:23Speaker 6: I want to go on a picnic. You are unemployed
- 43:25Speaker 6: and you don't do anything.
- 43:26Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 43:27Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 43:29Speaker 2: You have plans today?
- 43:30Speaker 4: I know you ain't got plans today, right?
- 43:32Speaker 2: Like, let's go.
- 43:33Speaker 4: That's funny. All right.
- 43:35Speaker 2: We do have an update. One year, 10 days later. Oh, dang.
- 43:40Speaker 4: Okay.
- 43:40Speaker 2: I don't think I got any.
- 43:42Speaker 6: Actual helpful advice aside from dump his butt. But a
- 43:46Speaker 6: lot has changed that I thought I would update. For starters,
- 43:49Speaker 6: I dumped Gerald. Yeah, I feel like that was coming.
- 43:52Speaker 2: You weren't happy. You wanted more. He couldn't give it
- 43:55Speaker 2: to you. So that's the end.
- 43:56Speaker 6: He was upset and tried to convince me to give
- 43:59Speaker 6: him a second chance, but I was done. I was
- 44:01Speaker 6: sick of wasting all my time watching anime and gaming
- 44:03Speaker 6: with him. I don't even like anime. And I was
- 44:06Speaker 6: getting really burned out on nerd crap to begin with.
- 44:09Speaker 6: I took my older, more intimidating sister to tell him
- 44:12Speaker 6: to never call me again. Last I heard, he was
- 44:15Speaker 6: still unemployed and living with his parents. No one else
- 44:18Speaker 6: in his life. Pretty sad, to be honest. As for me, well,
- 44:21Speaker 6: things are starting to look up. Part of my frustration
- 44:23Speaker 6: two years ago was dating as someone with Asperger's. People
- 44:27Speaker 6: think that when you're an Aspie, you can't function well
- 44:30Speaker 6: in society. They treat you like you are meant to
- 44:32Speaker 6: be handled with kid gloves, or like a young child,
- 44:35Speaker 6: and I was frustrated that, with my diagnosis, I was
- 44:38Speaker 6: doomed to date losers like Gerald. To be honest, I
- 44:41Speaker 6: didn't really find the advice I got helpful. I instead
- 44:43Speaker 6: asked my sisters what to do. I always trusted their advice,
- 44:46Speaker 6: and I still do. I don't talk to my old
- 44:48Speaker 6: friends from two years ago anymore. I realized they were
- 44:51Speaker 6: just not worth keeping around. I was also fed up
- 44:53Speaker 6: with my job and IT. I hated computers and the
- 44:56Speaker 6: whole geek culture surrounding it, but felt pushed into it
- 44:59Speaker 6: because of my Asperger's and how they are great at
- 45:02Speaker 6: technology to begin with. It made good money, but what's
- 45:05Speaker 6: the point of having that paycheck when you can't enjoy it?
- 45:08Speaker 6: I had no real friends, a boyfriend I resented, a
- 45:11Speaker 6: job that I was crying every time I thought about it.
- 45:14Speaker 2: I was miserable.
- 45:15Speaker 6: Thanks to my sister's help and advice, I decided to
- 45:17Speaker 6: turn things around. I went back to school, and I
- 45:20Speaker 6: am currently studying forensic science. It's something I was always
- 45:23Speaker 6: passionate about, but discouraged from pursuing for that more lucrative
- 45:27Speaker 6: tech degree. I had an internship with my city's police
- 45:30Speaker 6: department earlier this year, and never have I found work
- 45:33Speaker 6: that I found to be stimulating and fulfilling for me.
- 45:35Speaker 2: Okay, that's amazing. Look at you, OP. Come on.
- 45:39Speaker 4: Yeah, good for you, OP.
- 45:40Speaker 2: You're doing it. And I don't think you need to...
- 45:43Speaker 2: You know, just because people are like, well, people usually with.
- 45:46Speaker 6: You know, this kind of diagnosis are in these types
- 45:50Speaker 6: of jobs. That doesn't mean you can't define the odds.
- 45:52Speaker 6: You know, just because, you know, you are diagnosed with this,
- 45:57Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that you can't do anything else outside
- 46:00Speaker 6: of that.
- 46:01Speaker 3: Bro, let me introduce you to my friend, the indomitable
- 46:04Speaker 3: human spirit, dog. There is nothing that you can... set
- 46:10Speaker 3: your mind to, that you can always achieve. You can
- 46:12Speaker 3: do anything that you want. Literally do anything you want.
- 46:14Speaker 3: Put your mind to it.
- 46:15Speaker 6: I love hanging out with the friends I made. We
- 46:18Speaker 6: share a dark humor that can brighten the grimiest of cases.
- 46:22Speaker 6: I actually talk to them about the things that interest me,
- 46:25Speaker 6: like historical cold cases and anatomy and bizarre illnesses.
- 46:29Speaker 2: Opie, I think you've moved on and you've done great.
- 46:32Speaker 6: Like, give yourself a pat on the back. You're doing it.
- 46:35Speaker 6: You're doing what you want. You're not stuck, like, you know...
- 46:38Speaker 6: your ex you're not sitting there being like well i
- 46:42Speaker 6: don't know i can't do anything right so i guess
- 46:43Speaker 6: i'll just sit here in the mess i made and
- 46:45Speaker 6: it's like come on make your bed go outside have
- 46:49Speaker 6: a have a.
- 46:49Speaker 4: Day have a day dude.
- 46:52Speaker 6: Have a day of not just moping around you know
- 46:55Speaker 6: go go smile go laugh at something go like smell
- 47:00Speaker 6: smell the flowers go smell the.
- 47:02Speaker 4: Fresh air outside sniff those flowers baby.
- 47:05Speaker 6: And I am in a happy relationship. It's with a
- 47:08Speaker 6: woman I met in one of my classes and we
- 47:10Speaker 6: compliment each other so well. I won't say her real name,
- 47:13Speaker 6: but let's say it's Maria. Never have I felt so
- 47:16Speaker 6: content to be with someone. And you know, that was
- 47:19Speaker 6: probably also the reason why you were so resentful and
- 47:22Speaker 6: didn't like, you know, who you were with and everything.
- 47:25Speaker 6: Cause that just wasn't, you thought you literally, you were
- 47:29Speaker 6: going by what society standards wants you to do. And
- 47:33Speaker 6: at the end of the day, Society isn't going to
- 47:35Speaker 6: make you happy. The actions that you choose, the things
- 47:38Speaker 6: that you do, that's what's going to make you happy.
- 47:40Speaker 6: So don't sit there and be like, well, you know,
- 47:44Speaker 6: since I have Asperger's, I can't do this.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Yes, you can. Why not? Why not? Give it a try.
- 47:50Speaker 2: And if you fail miserably, okay, cool. On to the next. Like,
- 47:53Speaker 2: that's just life.
- 47:54Speaker 4: Keep it moving, baby. Keep it moving.
- 47:57Speaker 6: We have a date later tonight and are making plans
- 47:59Speaker 6: to move in together. All in all, I will say
- 48:03Speaker 6: this is a chapter of my life I consider closed.
- 48:05Speaker 6: Me from two years ago would be happy to know
- 48:07Speaker 6: that I'm thriving now. Well, good for you, LP. I'm
- 48:11Speaker 6: glad that you got out of this because you needed to.
- 48:14Speaker 6: You needed to just be done with the whole thing
- 48:17Speaker 6: and move on for your sake because he was just
- 48:19Speaker 6: dragging you down. And if you would have stayed, you
- 48:22Speaker 6: would have been probably twice as miserable as you were before.
- 48:25Speaker 6: So I'm glad you realized, I don't want to do this.
- 48:28Speaker 6: This isn't my future and I'm going to move on.
- 48:30Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather be like Single, then stuck in a
- 48:34Speaker 3: bad relationship.
- 48:36Speaker 2: I always say that.
- 48:37Speaker 4: I'd rather be doing that. But good on you, Opie.
- 48:39Speaker 3: It sounds like you pulled your big girl pants up
- 48:42Speaker 3: and you made the right decision.
- 48:45Speaker 2: And now look, you're doing things that you actually like.
- 48:48Speaker 4: I know. That's awesome.
- 48:50Speaker 2: That's amazing.
- 48:51Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 48:53Speaker 1: go on to the next one.
- 48:55Speaker 3: My boyfriend wet himself rather than pull the car over
- 49:00Speaker 3: and then blamed me for it.
- 49:03Speaker 2: Oh, little baby don't know how to be potty trained.
- 49:07Speaker 3: My boyfriend, 27 male, and I, 28 female, have been
- 49:11Speaker 3: dating for three years. We were driving in the back
- 49:14Speaker 3: roads for an hour and near the beginning of our journey.
- 49:16Speaker 4: He said he needed to pee.
- 49:18Speaker 3: I asked him at least four or five times if
- 49:20Speaker 3: he wanted to pull over since he was driving and
- 49:23Speaker 3: he refused. When we were almost home with a gas
- 49:26Speaker 3: station in sight, he said he couldn't make it any
- 49:29Speaker 3: longer and peed his pants. It was a very awkward
- 49:32Speaker 3: ride home the rest of the way for 10 minutes.
- 49:36Speaker 3: I didn't mention it and helped him clean it up
- 49:38Speaker 3: while he showered. and put on some fresh shorts. Marry
- 49:42Speaker 3: this chick right now, bro. What are you doing, dude?
- 49:46Speaker 2: I just think I would be like, what? Like, huh?
- 49:50Speaker 3: He then tried to leave my house to return to
- 49:52Speaker 3: his own house after he got out. I asked why,
- 49:56Speaker 3: and he said that it was because of him peeing himself,
- 49:58Speaker 3: and it happened because I was mad at him over
- 50:00Speaker 3: something he had said before we left from our destination.
- 50:04Speaker 3: What he said wasn't relevant to the story. But by
- 50:08Speaker 3: the way, this comes from throwaway45305. And if you want
- 50:13Speaker 3: to submit your own stories, go to r slash okstorytime.
- 50:15Speaker 4: I'm Mike.
- 50:16Speaker 2: I'm Savannah.
- 50:17Speaker 4: And today we're here to give good advice goofily, but
- 50:19Speaker 4: we don't know all the answers. We just know what
- 50:22Speaker 4: we would do. So go ahead and sound off in
- 50:24Speaker 4: the comments below what you would do.
- 50:26Speaker 3: Other than that, as OP says, previous to us getting
- 50:30Speaker 3: into the car, I had told him I didn't want
- 50:32Speaker 3: to talk about the issue for an hour and just
- 50:34Speaker 3: wanted to cool down a bit before we discussed it.
- 50:36Speaker 3: as I needed some time to process things. I wasn't
- 50:39Speaker 3: overly chatty during the car ride home, but I wasn't
- 50:42Speaker 3: giving him the cold shoulder or anything. He said he
- 50:44Speaker 3: just wanted to get home to discuss it. Totally against
- 50:48Speaker 3: his character, he is completely against confrontation, and that he
- 50:51Speaker 3: didn't want to pull over so he could get out
- 50:53Speaker 3: the car quicker. I didn't really understand his explanation, but
- 50:57Speaker 3: I haven't pushed. Reddit, I've had a hard time dealing
- 51:00Speaker 3: with this. On one hand, I know that bodily functions
- 51:03Speaker 3: sometimes cannot be controlled.
- 51:05Speaker 4: But he was in.
- 51:05Speaker 3: Full control of the car and himself and refused to
- 51:09Speaker 3: pull over.
- 51:10Speaker 4: By the way, such a guy thing to do, dude.
- 51:14Speaker 2: Piss yourself?
- 51:15Speaker 4: No, just to like go on like road trips. Be like,
- 51:17Speaker 4: I can handle it, dude.
- 51:19Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just going to say, hey, I have to pee.
- 51:22Speaker 2: Can we like find a rest stop, gas station, something?
- 51:25Speaker 4: I don't know why. It's a guy thing. Why?
- 51:28Speaker 2: Just go piss.
- 51:29Speaker 3: No, I think it's maybe like a pride thing that
- 51:33Speaker 3: we have.
- 51:34Speaker 2: I'm not going to piss because I'm better than that.
- 51:37Speaker 3: Which is so funny because you lose all your pride
- 51:40Speaker 3: if you do piss yourself.
- 51:42Speaker 6: Yeah, it just makes no sense. I would rather you
- 51:45Speaker 6: just go pee. I don't think any less of you
- 51:47Speaker 6: if you just pull over to pee.
- 51:49Speaker 5: Surprisingly.
- 51:50Speaker 3: So then he kind of shifted the blame to me.
- 51:55Speaker 3: I've had a hard time looking at him the same way.
- 51:58Speaker 3: I mean, he is a grown man. Why is he
- 52:02Speaker 3: pissing himself?
- 52:03Speaker 2: And that is the question of the year right there.
- 52:06Speaker 3: I feel terrible for feeling this way. But he's never
- 52:10Speaker 3: acted embarrassed or anything. Just kind of got defensive.
- 52:14Speaker 2: Oh, for what?
- 52:15Speaker 6: Got defensive that you chose to piss yourself instead of
- 52:20Speaker 6: just going off the road?
- 52:22Speaker 4: Shut up you'll get me i don't.
- 52:25Speaker 2: Know is that was this the better solution in your.
- 52:29Speaker 3: Mind bro like if you're gonna go down this road
- 52:32Speaker 3: of being defensive i like you gotta play into it
- 52:35Speaker 3: right you like you pissed yourself you lost okay you
- 52:38Speaker 3: lost the game already dude just like just move on
- 52:42Speaker 3: go ahead and move on gaslighting your girlfriend into pissing
- 52:45Speaker 3: yourself is next level dude.
- 52:47Speaker 2: That's like, I don't even know how you can even
- 52:49Speaker 2: do that. Like, yeah, you made me. One, you were driving. Two,
- 52:53Speaker 2: I don't control what you do. And three, I'm just
- 52:55Speaker 2: sitting here trying to.
- 52:56Speaker 6: Read a book and all of a sudden you're over
- 52:58Speaker 6: here pissing yourself.
- 53:00Speaker 2: Sorry, I should have stopped you. Should have stopped you.
- 53:02Speaker 1: My bad. My bad.
- 53:04Speaker 2: That's on me.
- 53:04Speaker 4: You're right. You're right. You're right, Pete. It was my bad.
- 53:07Speaker 3: So I asked him if this has ever happened before
- 53:10Speaker 3: and he insisted that it hasn't.
- 53:12Speaker 4: Am I overreacting to what happened? I feel like I
- 53:15Speaker 4: might be.
- 53:17Speaker 2: No, what?
- 53:17Speaker 6: You're overreacting to him pissing himself when he's like 20-some
- 53:22Speaker 6: years old?
- 53:23Speaker 2: If he believed that that was the right decision, there
- 53:26Speaker 2: is an issue here.
- 53:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I would hate to see what he does in
- 53:29Speaker 3: a life or death situation, you know?
- 53:32Speaker 5: He runs away.
- 53:32Speaker 2: He has full control of that. His bladder disappears. It
- 53:35Speaker 2: just absorbs into his body.
- 53:37Speaker 3: We got a couple of comments here. So Kalisti Gold says, no,
- 53:41Speaker 3: you aren't overreacting. He pissed himself instead of pulling over
- 53:46Speaker 3: for a minute. He was fully in control of his
- 53:49Speaker 3: body and the car the entire time. His actions are
- 53:54Speaker 3: a result of his own decisions and have nothing to
- 53:57Speaker 3: do with you.
- 53:58Speaker 4: I'd have trouble respecting.
- 53:59Speaker 3: Him ever again after hearing him blame me for his
- 54:01Speaker 3: decisions just to piss his pants. It's like a toddler yelling,
- 54:05Speaker 3: look what you made me do. OP responds, him acting
- 54:10Speaker 3: like a toddler is what it kind of felt like.
- 54:12Speaker 4: I was like, why did you do that? And he
- 54:15Speaker 4: was like, cause you were mad at me.
- 54:17Speaker 2: Oh my dude. What? You're mad at me.
- 54:22Speaker 6: So I had to piss myself to prove a point.
- 54:25Speaker 2: Like, and, and is the problem solved now?
- 54:30Speaker 6: I just don't understand. Like what, what is, where, where's
- 54:32Speaker 6: the logic here? I mean, you pissed yourself. So you
- 54:35Speaker 6: obviously don't have any logic. So, but I just like,
- 54:38Speaker 6: I'm trying to find it. And you have no hope.
- 54:41Speaker 3: It seems like, I was so confused because I didn't
- 54:43Speaker 3: see how the two correlate. I'm having a really hard
- 54:46Speaker 3: time feeling attracted to him since then, which I'm not
- 54:50Speaker 3: sure is normal or why I should feel this way.
- 54:53Speaker 2: You're seeing him as a little piss boy.
- 54:54Speaker 4: Yeah, you've lost respect for him as a man.
- 54:58Speaker 6: You're like, oh, oh, you're a toddler. Oh, I'm dating
- 55:00Speaker 6: a six-year-old. Ah, yeah, this is really eye-opening.
- 55:06Speaker 4: He chose to piss himself.
- 55:09Speaker 2: And then also chose to blame her.
- 55:11Speaker 3: It's just like he tries to initiate and I cannot
- 55:14Speaker 3: get turned on at all.
- 55:17Speaker 4: Well, we got an update here, folks.
- 55:20Speaker 3: 19 days later, I had originally posted it before six
- 55:25Speaker 3: months ago when the incident originally happened and didn't get
- 55:28Speaker 3: any response. So I truly thought I was underreacting and
- 55:32Speaker 3: kind of swallowed my concerns. But over time, they kept
- 55:35Speaker 3: creeping up and I started noticing more and more that
- 55:38Speaker 3: everything was my fault in his life So I decided
- 55:41Speaker 3: to repost it again. This post really affirmed what I knew,
- 55:45Speaker 3: but didn't want to accept for whatever reason that the
- 55:47Speaker 3: relationship had to end. The thread made me think a
- 55:51Speaker 3: lot about my life and what our life together would
- 55:54Speaker 3: look like. All I could think about was this, his
- 55:57Speaker 3: pissing himself happening again in the future. I thought about
- 56:01Speaker 3: us having children and how he would deal with them.
- 56:04Speaker 3: I thought about having to make tough decisions with him.
- 56:07Speaker 3: And I thought about making tough financial decisions. I thought
- 56:10Speaker 3: about having to go through tough life events like losing
- 56:13Speaker 3: a parent.
- 56:14Speaker 4: I realized that I would always be blamed for this.
- 56:18Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, like, it's so funny because, like, when
- 56:21Speaker 3: they'll just be like, yeah, like, I thought about, like,
- 56:23Speaker 3: you know, like losing a parent.
- 56:25Speaker 4: And he would piss himself at the wedding or at
- 56:27Speaker 4: the funeral. I thought about what would happen if we
- 56:29Speaker 4: need money. And he would just piss himself. He's, like,
- 56:32Speaker 4: constantly just hammering it.
- 56:35Speaker 2: Every inconvenience, he just pisses himself.
- 56:37Speaker 3: So blamed him for things that went wrong, even though
- 56:39Speaker 3: they were not my fault or in my control, and
- 56:42Speaker 3: thought he wasn't someone I could truly rely on for support.
- 56:46Speaker 3: I just took him to literally and purposely lose control
- 56:50Speaker 3: of his own bladder for me to see this. I
- 56:54Speaker 3: broke up with him a few days after the original post.
- 56:57Speaker 3: So I told him I wasn't happy with the relationship
- 57:00Speaker 3: anymore and that I wanted out. He didn't really fight
- 57:03Speaker 3: or ask why. So a surprisingly easy breakup. He has
- 57:08Speaker 3: had other issues in his life and refuses in general
- 57:10Speaker 3: the idea of therapy.
- 57:12Speaker 4: Sounds like a good guy.
- 57:13Speaker 3: So I didn't even suggest it for whatever issues he
- 57:15Speaker 3: has going on when I ended it. Not really my
- 57:18Speaker 3: problem or concern anymore. We got, I mean, there's not
- 57:22Speaker 3: much really to discuss here.
- 57:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm imagining him. She's like, I want to break up.
- 57:25Speaker 2: And he just pisses.
- 57:26Speaker 4: So we have an update here.
- 57:29Speaker 3: Despite being together three years, I was surprised with how
- 57:33Speaker 3: relieved I felt when I let it go.
- 57:34Speaker 4: Fun intended.
- 57:36Speaker 3: I think I mourned the relationship for a day or two,
- 57:40Speaker 3: and I've been totally fine since. I've been hitting the
- 57:43Speaker 3: gym almost every day at lunch and have had plans
- 57:45Speaker 3: every night with friends or family. I generally am a
- 57:48Speaker 3: social person, so I really haven't let the loss of
- 57:51Speaker 3: this relationship get me down. I guess if anything, this
- 57:55Speaker 3: whole thing has really opened my eyes to trusting my
- 57:57Speaker 3: gut and my instincts. I knew him pissing himself was
- 58:00Speaker 3: messed up, and I knew and felt like he was
- 58:03Speaker 3: blaming me. I should have trusted my gut and ended
- 58:06Speaker 3: it right then and there when he truly showed.
- 58:09Speaker 4: Me who he was. And that is the end of
- 58:14Speaker 4: our story.
- 58:15Speaker 2: But the thing is, he eventually got there.
- 58:17Speaker 6: It took you like, you know, what, like, I mean,
- 58:19Speaker 6: I don't know how long it took you after, but
- 58:21Speaker 6: I'm hoping maybe like a week or something, a couple
- 58:24Speaker 6: of days took you to figure that out.
- 58:26Speaker 2: But yeah, he just, he wasn't right for you. And
- 58:29Speaker 2: I don't know if he's right for anyone.
- 58:31Speaker 3: And like you said, you know, you did the right thing.
- 58:33Speaker 3: You know, you let him go. And yeah, I'm sorry, dude.
- 58:37Speaker 4: Hopefully that never has to happen to you again.
- 58:39Speaker 2: Now when he pisses himself, He only has himself to blame.
- 58:42Speaker 4: Yeah. And he will be thinking of you.
- 58:45Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
- 58:47Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 58:49Speaker 1: go on to the next one.
- 58:50Speaker 2: Hey, it's Carly, Keon's girlfriend here.
- 58:53Speaker 1: We're going to get back to the stories, but here's
- 58:55Speaker 1: three minutes of ads from our sponsors.
- 58:58Speaker 6: My ex-wife's little sister wants to date me and I'm
- 59:02Speaker 6: kind of considering it.
- 59:04Speaker 4: Oh, talk about family drama.
- 59:06Speaker 2: Quick background.
- 59:07Speaker 6: My ex-wife is the same age as me and I,
- 59:10Speaker 6: 28 male, have not seen her since we divorced three
- 59:13Speaker 6: years ago. There was nothing juicy about the divorce, just
- 59:16Speaker 6: two kids who got married too young too soon and
- 59:19Speaker 6: realized it too late. We divorced pretty amicably and she
- 59:23Speaker 6: ended up moving away. I did as well for a time,
- 59:26Speaker 6: but I ended up coming back home last year. I
- 59:28Speaker 6: got along with her family until the end, although I
- 59:31Speaker 6: did not know her sister that well, since either we
- 59:34Speaker 6: were in college or she was in college away from us.
- 59:37Speaker 6: My ex was not really close with her sister, but
- 59:40Speaker 6: they also did not have any ill will towards each other. Anyway,
- 59:43Speaker 6: I ran into Riley, my ex's wife's sister, 24 female,
- 59:48Speaker 6: and she told me that my ex is engaged and happy,
- 59:50Speaker 6: which I was actually happy to hear. She said her
- 59:53Speaker 6: parents are doing well and that they had even asked
- 59:56Speaker 6: her a little while if she knew what I was doing,
- 59:58Speaker 6: which she didn't because I don't keep in contact with
- 1:00:00Speaker 6: anyone from her family. It was a nice conversation. Before
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: we finished talking, Riley asked me if I would like
- 1:00:06Speaker 6: to have a drink with her sometime. I thought maybe
- 1:00:09Speaker 6: she just wanted to catch up in a better setting.
- 1:00:11Speaker 6: But then she said, but I understand if you don't
- 1:00:13Speaker 6: want to go on a date with your ex-wife's sister.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: So it's a date. By the way, this comes from throwaway4111.
- 1:00:22Speaker 6: And if you want to submit your own stories, go
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: I'm Savannah.
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: And I'm Mike.
- 1:00:28Speaker 5: And we're here.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: To talk about some stuff, get some advice.
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: But we don't have all of your answers, unfortunately.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: Wish we did.
- 1:00:34Speaker 6: That'd be pretty cool. But also, that's a lot to
- 1:00:36Speaker 6: keep in this brain. And I don't want all that trouble.
- 1:00:39Speaker 6: So I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do.
- 1:00:40Speaker 6: Mike's going to tell you what he's going to do.
- 1:00:42Speaker 6: And then you are going to tell us what you
- 1:00:44Speaker 6: would do down in the comments. As OP says... I
- 1:00:48Speaker 6: did end up exchanging numbers with her, asking her kind
- 1:00:51Speaker 6: of lightly how her parents would feel, and got a,
- 1:00:54Speaker 6: they would probably be happy that I found someone they liked.
- 1:00:56Speaker 6: She did mention before she asked me out that she
- 1:00:59Speaker 6: was always surprised that her sister let such a good
- 1:01:01Speaker 6: guy go, which I corrected her on and told her
- 1:01:04Speaker 6: it was definitely mutual. But I keep thinking that it's weird.
- 1:01:07Speaker 6: She's obviously a grown woman now, but she was a
- 1:01:10Speaker 6: teenager when I started dating my ex-wife. I would feel
- 1:01:12Speaker 6: weird going.
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: To her parents.
- 1:01:14Speaker 6: almost being like, hey, I decided to give your other
- 1:01:17Speaker 6: daughter a try. Then how would my ex feel about it?
- 1:01:21Speaker 6: Would it ruin her relationship with her sister? And if
- 1:01:23Speaker 6: we got serious, I'd have to see my ex-wife at functions.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: Help me. So there is an edit. Yeah, me personally,
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: I would not go on the date.
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: I'd be like, no, no, no.
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: That will just cause mayhem. And if it doesn't work
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: out again, it's like, sorry, I don't know what I'm doing.
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: He already had the sister, you know what I mean?
- 1:01:47Speaker 5: That's weird.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: Anyway, there's an edit.
- 1:01:51Speaker 6: I texted Riley and told her that I don't think
- 1:01:53Speaker 6: it is appropriate for us to go on a date.
- 1:01:56Speaker 6: I told her that I enjoyed talking to her and
- 1:01:57Speaker 6: catching up, but that we should only be cordial if
- 1:02:00Speaker 6: we see each other out. I also told her that
- 1:02:02Speaker 6: it is nothing personal against her, but that given my
- 1:02:04Speaker 6: history with her sister, it just isn't appropriate. She replied
- 1:02:08Speaker 6: that she understood and respected my decision, but also said
- 1:02:11Speaker 6: that she didn't think my ex-wife would have a problem
- 1:02:13Speaker 6: with it.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: I was steadfast.
- 1:02:16Speaker 6: I also learned a lot about myself here. I miss
- 1:02:18Speaker 6: being a husband. I don't miss my ex-wife, but I
- 1:02:22Speaker 6: miss what we once had. And I want that again
- 1:02:24Speaker 6: with someone else. I think her being my ex-wife's sister
- 1:02:27Speaker 6: brought out some feelings in me that were never unlocked
- 1:02:30Speaker 6: by the woman I went on dates with in the interim.
- 1:02:34Speaker 6: Because they were detached enough from my previous marriage that
- 1:02:37Speaker 6: I could still repress those feelings.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: And there's another update... I'm just going to get into
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: it because I want to know.
- 1:02:44Speaker 6: I want to know what's going on here. Okay, this
- 1:02:47Speaker 6: became a whole crap show.
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: Oh no.
- 1:02:49Speaker 6: I really believed I was being optimistic thinking my previous
- 1:02:52Speaker 6: post might get 50 comments. It's like 2,000 now. Also,
- 1:02:57Speaker 6: all of these names are fake. I sent this to
- 1:02:59Speaker 6: everyone and got permission from all of them to post it.
- 1:03:02Speaker 6: The next day, I got a text from Riley with
- 1:03:05Speaker 6: a link to the post.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: What the F?
- 1:03:08Speaker 6: Apparently, Riley is no stranger to Reddit and she immediately
- 1:03:11Speaker 6: knew it was me. I finally called her, and the
- 1:03:13Speaker 6: first couple of minutes involved crying and tongue lashings, although
- 1:03:17Speaker 6: not as bad as I was anticipating. Okay, but why
- 1:03:21Speaker 6: is she, like, mad about that? It's not like he,
- 1:03:25Speaker 6: you know, said, like, oh, she's stupid and ugly, and
- 1:03:27Speaker 6: I'd never go out with her.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: He was just like, no, it's just a weird.
- 1:03:29Speaker 6: Situation, and I just, like, feel bad about it, so
- 1:03:32Speaker 6: I just don't want to make anyone else feel weirded out.
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: And, like, she took that personally. I don't know.
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: I think she might have just been mad just because, like,
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: she got sent it on Reddit, which is like, you
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: just get, bro, you get like a link and then
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: like thousands of people are like trash and you did
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: and trash in the situation.
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: Reddit can be very scary. It could be a scary place,
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: but also sometimes you do get really good advice though.
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: That's true.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: I apologize profusely.
- 1:04:01Speaker 6: And thankfully she leveled out a bit and we were
- 1:04:03Speaker 6: able to have a civil conversation. Riley told me that
- 1:04:06Speaker 6: she wasn't overly upset with me and that she understood
- 1:04:09Speaker 6: why I made the post. She admitted that asking me
- 1:04:11Speaker 6: out was a stupid thing to do.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: Her words.
- 1:04:14Speaker 6: What really hurt her was how many people thought she
- 1:04:17Speaker 6: was trying to undermine or cause pain for her sister,
- 1:04:20Speaker 6: which she assured me and asked me to assure everyone
- 1:04:23Speaker 6: was absolutely not the case. Yeah, I did not think
- 1:04:26Speaker 6: that at all. We had a moment of commiseration. when
- 1:04:30Speaker 6: she said that when people mentioned things about the two
- 1:04:32Speaker 6: of us that were explicitly spicy related, she had also
- 1:04:37Speaker 6: not gotten that far in her mind and reading them
- 1:04:40Speaker 6: was as jarring as I found them. No offense, she
- 1:04:43Speaker 6: said to me, but the more I think about it,
- 1:04:45Speaker 6: the more gross I realize it is. Then Riley told
- 1:04:48Speaker 6: me that Julia, my ex-wife, wanted to call and talk
- 1:04:52Speaker 6: to me. I figured I deserved it from both barrels,
- 1:04:55Speaker 6: so I told her that I was okay with that.
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: Julia suggested Skype since she lived two hours away. She
- 1:05:01Speaker 6: said the only condition on her end was that her fiance, Tom,
- 1:05:04Speaker 6: would be listening in to the entire conversation because she
- 1:05:07Speaker 6: was not comfortable having a conversation with her ex-husband behind
- 1:05:09Speaker 6: her fiance's back. A couple of hours later I fired
- 1:05:12Speaker 6: up the laptop. There on the call was my ex-wife.
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: I had not seen or spoken to this woman in
- 1:05:17Speaker 6: three years. While it was a bit surreal I did
- 1:05:20Speaker 6: not have any flood of feelings when I saw her.
- 1:05:23Speaker 6: When she saw me she smiled and waved. Then she
- 1:05:25Speaker 6: leaned into the screen.
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: You're an idiot.
- 1:05:28Speaker 6: I put my hand over my eyes and groaned. Thankfully,
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: I could hear her giggling. If I didn't know you
- 1:05:34Speaker 6: so well, I would want to strangle you. She called
- 1:05:37Speaker 6: her fiance over and introduced me to him. I apologized
- 1:05:40Speaker 6: to him and assured him that I wasn't here for
- 1:05:42Speaker 6: anything underhanded. He put up his arms and said, the
- 1:05:45Speaker 6: less I'm involved, the better. And with a sly grin,
- 1:05:48Speaker 6: he said, I asked Julie if I should thank you
- 1:05:50Speaker 6: for divorcing her, but she didn't think that was funny.
- 1:05:53Speaker 6: She slapped his shoulder and replied, do you want to
- 1:05:56Speaker 6: sit on the couch now or sleep on it later?
- 1:05:58Speaker 6: Tom leaned in and said, Nice meeting you, and scurried off. First,
- 1:06:02Speaker 6: regarding Riley, not only was Julia not angry with her,
- 1:06:05Speaker 6: she said she wasn't even surprised. Julia said that, had
- 1:06:08Speaker 6: Riley done this immediately after our divorce, she would have
- 1:06:11Speaker 6: slapped her silly. But having a few years away from
- 1:06:14Speaker 6: the divorce, she was able to process what was going on.
- 1:06:17Speaker 6: Julia said, I might be surprised to learn that she
- 1:06:19Speaker 6: had already gone through the same emotions I was going through.
- 1:06:22Speaker 6: She said a couple of months after our divorce was finalized,
- 1:06:26Speaker 6: she went through a brief period where she thought she had.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: Made a terrible mistake.
- 1:06:30Speaker 6: She had moved away, did not have as many people
- 1:06:32Speaker 6: to talk to, and became very depressed and lonely. She
- 1:06:35Speaker 6: nearly got a hold of me to ask if I
- 1:06:37Speaker 6: would take her back. Her friend insisted that she get
- 1:06:40Speaker 6: into therapy, which she did, and she discovered that it
- 1:06:43Speaker 6: was not me she missed, it was having a companion.
- 1:06:46Speaker 6: She said after reading what I had written, it felt
- 1:06:48Speaker 6: like deja vu, and she wanted me to know that
- 1:06:51Speaker 6: there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: Okay, wait, this is kind of a sweet little moment.
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: Yeah, right? I'm liking this. There's a little tearjerker right
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: over here.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: You guys are, like, having, like, a real-life conversation.
- 1:07:03Speaker 6: And it doesn't have to be fighting, like, it was
- 1:07:06Speaker 6: your fault, why it didn't work out, and all this stuff.
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: Like, no, you're both in happy places.
- 1:07:10Speaker 6: And she is recognizing that you are now going through
- 1:07:14Speaker 6: what she went through a couple years prior. So she's like,
- 1:07:16Speaker 6: I just want you to know, you know, you'll survive
- 1:07:19Speaker 6: this type of thing. That's actually very sweet to say.
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: Yeah, super sweet.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: Okay, I'm liking these. I like these people. We also
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: talked about our divorce.
- 1:07:26Speaker 6: A lot of that I'm not going to share, but
- 1:07:28Speaker 6: I mentioned in my last post that sometimes Julia would
- 1:07:31Speaker 6: be okay with something even when she wasn't. She admitted
- 1:07:34Speaker 6: that she had a problem doing this and has worked
- 1:07:36Speaker 6: on it since. She said that she could be a
- 1:07:38Speaker 6: bit jaded and cynical, but that for my part, I
- 1:07:41Speaker 6: was entirely too naive and optimistic about everything. She said
- 1:07:44Speaker 6: there were moments where she felt I was almost dismissive
- 1:07:47Speaker 6: of her feelings because I had the mantra of.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: Everything will work out in the end.
- 1:07:52Speaker 6: Or if she had an issue with someone, she felt
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: my optimism would make it seem like I was taking
- 1:07:57Speaker 6: that person's side. She said that sometimes she just wanted
- 1:08:00Speaker 6: her husband to be mad with her and not try
- 1:08:02Speaker 6: to play peacekeeper. She also said that I was awful
- 1:08:06Speaker 6: at picking up cues. I won't forget this line. My parents'
- 1:08:10Speaker 6: dog could tell I was upset and you couldn't. She said,
- 1:08:13Speaker 6: do you understand how frustrating it is when you have
- 1:08:16Speaker 6: to spell everything out to your husband? Finally, she accepted
- 1:08:19Speaker 6: some responsibility. My biggest mistake was never spelling that out
- 1:08:23Speaker 6: to you. I tried to spare your feelings too many times,
- 1:08:26Speaker 6: and in doing so, I was putting a band-aid on
- 1:08:28Speaker 6: an amputation. She said that part of what prevented her
- 1:08:32Speaker 6: was that she felt I was such a pure soul
- 1:08:34Speaker 6: that conveying it would somehow corrupt me.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: On to Riley.
- 1:08:38Speaker 6: Julia said, Riley and I were actually a lot alike
- 1:08:41Speaker 6: in that respect.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: Naive and trusting to a fault.
- 1:08:44Speaker 6: Apparently, Riley looked up to me as a husband way
- 1:08:47Speaker 6: more than I ever realized. Julia said she always knew
- 1:08:50Speaker 6: Riley had a little crush on me, not in the
- 1:08:52Speaker 6: sense that she wanted me for herself, but she suspects
- 1:08:55Speaker 6: that because we share similar personality traits, Riley pictured someone
- 1:08:59Speaker 6: like me as the idealist.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: Husband.
- 1:09:01Speaker 6: When Julia and I were around people, we really were
- 1:09:03Speaker 6: the perfect couple. People were very surprised to hear about
- 1:09:06Speaker 6: our divorce because all of our problems were internal. Since
- 1:09:09Speaker 6: Riley did not see us all the time, she was
- 1:09:11Speaker 6: getting a very truncated version of our marriage. Julia said
- 1:09:15Speaker 6: that Riley would talk about how nice and funny I
- 1:09:17Speaker 6: was and how well I treated her sister. Even in
- 1:09:20Speaker 6: her rocky stages, Julia never had the heart to tell
- 1:09:23Speaker 6: Riley that it eventually became a facade, because she wanted
- 1:09:27Speaker 6: Riley to view me that way and hope that she
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: would find a nice guy herself.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: She even gave me an anecdote.
- 1:09:33Speaker 6: Riley was dating a guy in college, and he did
- 1:09:35Speaker 6: something pretty terrible, and Riley asked her, would OP do
- 1:09:38Speaker 6: something like that? Julia told her that I wouldn't, and
- 1:09:42Speaker 6: the next week, she found out Riley had dumped him.
- 1:09:45Speaker 6: I asked her if she really thought that had something to.
- 1:09:48Speaker 4: Do with it.
- 1:09:49Speaker 6: Julia laughed and said, you still don't get it.
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: Oh, she is blatantly spelling it out for you. Like
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: you got to know at this point.
- 1:10:01Speaker 4: Nah, it just felt like it.
- 1:10:03Speaker 6: Julia said that Riley has since had some relationships that
- 1:10:07Speaker 6: were extremely toxic because Riley was easy to take advantage of.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:10:12Speaker 6: Her guess was that between Riley's picture of me as
- 1:10:14Speaker 6: this perfect husband and her string of bad relationships, it
- 1:10:18Speaker 6: made her feel like dating me would ensure that she
- 1:10:20Speaker 6: would finally have the good husband she always wanted and
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: that she was so eager to find Mr. Right that
- 1:10:26Speaker 6: she did not even think about what dating her ex-brother-in-law
- 1:10:29Speaker 6: might entail. She also chastised me a bit. She hated
- 1:10:33Speaker 6: the line in my post about her and Riley not
- 1:10:35Speaker 6: being that close. I told her that I knew they texted,
- 1:10:38Speaker 6: but they didn't hang out a lot, to which she
- 1:10:40Speaker 6: replied she was going to college a few states away.
- 1:10:43Speaker 5: You idiot.
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: When were we supposed to hang out?
- 1:10:46Speaker 6: So maybe Riley and I should date after all, right?
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: No chance.
- 1:10:52Speaker 6: Julia felt like we would just enable each other's naivety.
- 1:10:55Speaker 6: that our relationship would become so juvenile that eventually when
- 1:10:59Speaker 6: either of us needed the other to be the adult
- 1:11:01Speaker 6: in the room, we would not be capable of it,
- 1:11:03Speaker 6: and we both would probably become bitter and resentful. She
- 1:11:07Speaker 6: felt that while Julia and I were incompatible because we
- 1:11:10Speaker 6: weren't enough alike, Riley and I would never work because
- 1:11:15Speaker 6: we were too alike. She also said that selfishly, she
- 1:11:18Speaker 6: feared that if things between Riley and me didn't work,
- 1:11:21Speaker 6: Riley might resent her. I asked about her parents. Julia
- 1:11:24Speaker 6: said that if she gave an enthusiastic blessing, they would
- 1:11:27Speaker 6: probably be happy for us, but she was not capable
- 1:11:30Speaker 6: of doing that, so they would likewise not be happy
- 1:11:32Speaker 6: because they would hate the tension it could cause between
- 1:11:35Speaker 6: their two girls. I was also told by Julia to
- 1:11:39Speaker 6: put this in the post. I know my sister better
- 1:11:41Speaker 6: than you do, and I know that while what she
- 1:11:43Speaker 6: did was ill-conceived, I know she didn't mean me any harm.
- 1:11:48Speaker 6: If you want to continue to believe that she did,
- 1:11:50Speaker 6: knock yourself out. Finally, she told me to go to therapy.
- 1:11:53Speaker 6: to not date for a few months, and to focus
- 1:11:55Speaker 6: on healing myself. She assured me with Tom in the
- 1:11:58Speaker 6: room that overall I was a wonderful man who would
- 1:12:01Speaker 6: make someone very happy, but that I had some growing
- 1:12:04Speaker 6: up to do first. so I didn't repeat the same
- 1:12:06Speaker 6: mistakes I made with her. Last weekend, to cap it off,
- 1:12:09Speaker 6: we had an ex-family meeting at her parents' house. It
- 1:12:13Speaker 6: was really nice to see them, and they were very welcoming,
- 1:12:16Speaker 6: although her father pulled me aside, shook his head, and said,
- 1:12:19Speaker 6: why in the heck did you think it was a
- 1:12:20Speaker 6: good idea to get the opinions of a bunch of
- 1:12:22Speaker 6: idiots on the internet?
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: Sorry.
- 1:12:25Speaker 4: Hey, we're not idiots. Don't call us that.
- 1:12:28Speaker 6: The biggest revelation here is that her mother confessed that
- 1:12:31Speaker 6: part of this might have been her fault. She said
- 1:12:33Speaker 6: that in the interim between our divorce and Julia and
- 1:12:36Speaker 6: Tom getting serious, she would sometimes bring up to Riley
- 1:12:39Speaker 6: that it was a shame OP and Julia couldn't work
- 1:12:42Speaker 6: it out. And things like, he was such a nice man,
- 1:12:44Speaker 6: I hope he's doing okay. She never told Riley to
- 1:12:47Speaker 6: try and date me, but looking back, she might have
- 1:12:49Speaker 6: signaled that she and her husband would love to have
- 1:12:52Speaker 6: me back in the family. Her father then said that
- 1:12:56Speaker 6: he remembered telling Riley years ago as a joke that
- 1:12:58Speaker 6: he was sad he was going to lose his fishing buddy. Riley,
- 1:13:02Speaker 6: for her part, said that she did have the feeling
- 1:13:04Speaker 6: that her parents would be excited for her to date me,
- 1:13:07Speaker 6: but she apologized to Julia because she felt that she
- 1:13:10Speaker 6: was only thinking about herself and her parents and that
- 1:13:13Speaker 6: it was inexcusable how little she considered her sister.
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: She said that she foolishly thought that Julia would be
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: over it.
- 1:13:31Speaker 6: I opened up to all of them and said that
- 1:13:32Speaker 6: I was guilty of the same and that I should
- 1:13:35Speaker 6: have known what a bad idea was from the start.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: I also apologize for the Reddit post. Any final thoughts?
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: Don't date your sister. I mean, I know you guys
- 1:13:43Speaker 4: were close, right?
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: But that shouldn't mean that you literally go back and
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: potentially just like ruin another relationship, I guess. Because obviously
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: it didn't work out in the first place for like
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: a reason, right? You know, you guys said it was internal.
- 1:14:01Speaker 6: It's really weird to be in that situation, but I
- 1:14:03Speaker 6: think that ultimately you're choosing the best way to go
- 1:14:06Speaker 6: about this because you don't need to get mixed up
- 1:14:08Speaker 6: in this family again with a different sister.
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: Come on, you gotta know better, OP. You'll find someone outside.
- 1:14:15Speaker 4: Of the family. Do better, OP, please.
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: All right, let's finish it up. By the end, we
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: all hugged. I even hugged Tom.
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: Poor Tom.
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: Her father in his.
- 1:14:24Speaker 6: Jolly old way said, well, I have two daughters I
- 1:14:28Speaker 6: couldn't be more proud of. I'm excited to welcome a
- 1:14:30Speaker 6: wonderful son-in-law to the family. And OP, you're going to
- 1:14:33Speaker 6: make a great husband someday. Julia even pulled me aside
- 1:14:37Speaker 6: later and said, if you ever want to go fishing
- 1:14:39Speaker 6: with my dad, I'm okay with that. He could really
- 1:14:41Speaker 6: use his fishing buddy back. This is going to be it.
- 1:14:44Speaker 6: Riley and I will be friendly if we see each other,
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: but we won't be dating. I might go fishing with
- 1:14:48Speaker 6: her dad sometime. I wish Julia and Tom the best.
- 1:14:51Speaker 6: And I know that one day I'll find the right
- 1:14:52Speaker 6: person too. It just won't be from that family.
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: Yes, OP. There you go. That's what I wanted to hear.
- 1:14:59Speaker 4: Way to use your noggin, baby.
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: You realized, you know, actually, I don't have to do this.
- 1:15:05Speaker 6: There's no pressure for me to do any of this
- 1:15:08Speaker 6: and make any of these decisions. So I think you'll
- 1:15:12Speaker 6: be fine. I think going to therapy, talking to people
- 1:15:16Speaker 6: about it, going through this, you know, stage on your
- 1:15:19Speaker 6: own is going to help you a lot in the
- 1:15:20Speaker 6: long run. And it will lead you to your person.
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story.