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ABJ Podcast Ep 21 Will Carroll · ABJ

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Everybody, welcome back for another episode of the, a BJ
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And I'ma let him introduce himself here because he's he's
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into it right now. Look at this.
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My on your on. Oh, I'm on vacation right now.
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How are you? What's going on?
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I'm doing great steak. Yeah.
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What are you doing? That's what you do on vacation,
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right? I think.
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So, you eat steaks by the pool, that's what you do on a
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vacation. Have you ever had One of these
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things a crab cake and a real crab.
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Where is it? Little dark.
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It's hard to see. The sun's directly on your
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camera. Some strago.
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Don't you think the whole shelf? You see the whole show?
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Oh, you're living large. Well have you ever had a king
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cake? A king cake.
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Yeah, king cake, no ice cream cake.
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It's like a big doughnut. Hmm, and you're killing him, I
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guy killed him. I know I'm gonna go inside
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though. I do have different sauce for
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the steak with you. Dip it in a wonder you just eat
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it. Eat it, where it regular - eat
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it, how it is, what are you talking about?
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Dipping sauce. I'm the one steak sauce guy, I
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want steak sauce on a dog turd and probably eat it.
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It's just it just good stuff. Oh we just lost them up.
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He's back. All right there it is.
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Yeah, I'm gonna condo in the Alabama right now.
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No, Bama Be, Careful answer. It's always scary state.
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It is kind of a scary state. But you know what?
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I just did a wrestling show in Tennessee.
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And they hated me. They, as soon as I walked out,
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they hated me was like Atomic heat.
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I didn't say anything and they were just a little bit.
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Just, they were just mad that I existed.
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I love that good. Well, that's what you're going
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for, right? I don't know what I'm going for
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because I I'm just being myself and people either, really,
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really hate it or kind of like it.
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That's what I'm going through. I don't know.
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Weird, what's up? Let's let the people know who
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you are. Let's introduce yourself
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properly. I forgot.
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Yes, my wrestling name is high pitch will but I'm kind of
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getting away from that. I don't know why I got that
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name. I don't know how I got the name.
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High pitch. Will it doesn't mean anything.
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You have such a deep masculine voice.
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I don't understand where that came from.
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I think your camel friends. That's just what happened.
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I don't know. Yes, yeah, but um, I was in XP W
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for a year and now I'm kind of just doing independent stuff and
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trying to figure out what, what my next career move is.
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So, I'm kind of a managing this guy hardcore, who's out of
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Buffalo. He does death matches, but I
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have a couple of other tricks up my sleeve, so I got some other
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exciting stuff. Hopefully happening soon.
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Let's so do you mostly just Stay in the, The Avenue of a manager
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role. Yeah, when I did I was more just
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like a sidekick for Rob black. When I was in XPW, I actually
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did help him run the company. I actually had a lot of
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behind-the-scenes tasks. I was doing like, you know,
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helping guys with airplanes and tickets and promos I was doing,
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I did like everything a little bit of everything and XP W.
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What does which is all really good valuable stuff when you go
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to Carry on, because having that experience, goes a long way.
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A lot of people don't realize that when you're in this
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business, you sometimes you wear more than one hat, you know?
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Yeah. Oh yeah.
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I I mean, the, my favorite, you know, out of character real
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quick. My favorite thing was kind of
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being a talent agent helping younger guys, get on the show's
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working with some of the guys that, you know, thought they
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were too old ice, I really like working with the guys that were
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not in their Prime, you know what I mean?
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That was kind of my favorite thing about being involved in XP
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w. Who are some of your talent that
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you kind of you kind of pride yourself on of giving them an
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opportunity to get some shine. Well right now, judge judge
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showed read hardcore. Those are coming.
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Some of the younger guys. I got involved Santana, Jackson,
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I got on XP W, and even in the beginning, slack and G raber.
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Those were guys, like, you need slack in EG raver, you know?
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So, a lot of the and necrobutcher 2, necro butcher,
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the first, Time. I was like, Rob we need an echo
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but she was like that guy. Like is he even still resting
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as? Yeah, he's back and I fought for
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necrobutcher and just a lot of different guys that like the but
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he's at the women's Locker kind of like the big deals right now
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and XPW. Correct.
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Yep. Yep, yep.
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Yep. Yep.
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Yep. Yep.
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Yep. And they run east coast and
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they're also on the west coast through, right, they're running,
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they're doing for New York, New Jersey and Pomona California?
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Yes, yeah. A lot of latkes.
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A guy who I work for an employee's, me a lot in New
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Jersey seeing Chad is involved heavily with them now and not
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just like I do, I get to see some of the stuff I got to be
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honest. I it's hard for me to watch the
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Deathmatch stuff just because it's just it's a it's tough It's
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a tough watch. I don't legit like watching
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people get hurt and and go through things and I know
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sometimes what wrestlers get paid or what wrestlers go
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through outside of professional wrestling and then you watch
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someone take a light tube across the face and they're bleeding
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all over the place. We like, oh my God.
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God, that's insane. And I guess I would get nervous
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about the guys getting hurt all the time.
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And I always, and these guys just want to one-up each other,
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and they're just like, oh this guy did 200 LED tubes, I want to
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do 400 late tubes, or they really just, they don't give a
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fuck. And I'm just kind of they don't
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like, do know, like, what's not? Because in the business their
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goal is to get that clip that borrow moment.
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Seen to get the next opportunity to get paid more money and they
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don't have regard for their own safety and they're going to go
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out there and do something absolutely insane.
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So they have that moment and for them that's that's their dream.
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They don't care about the million-dollar check, I mean the
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million dollar check is cold for them, but the fact that people
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seen them do a crazy spot in a wrestling match that may or may
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not break a bone or cut themselves up or really bad and
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it just like it's hard for me to just like yeah like I've never
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done a full blown hard. I got close once at a show where
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it was like a light tube Deathmatch style thing and it
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was it was tough to call on commentary because the entire
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time like this is legit happening.
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Like they're they're they're sticking fishhooks in their
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mouth like and I and I and basically what it comes out
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whose every weekend is just who got hurt the most and who came
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up with a new weapon and that's that's what they're kind of
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chasing and it is kind of scary. What was the weed?
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Whackers Yannick. It's and especially because
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light tubes are Now start making a light tubes, they're gonna
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have to find a new crazy shit. Like it's, it might get worse.
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I don't know, someone needs to get into the shower glass
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industry and starts us. Really, really start pumping out
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sugar glass. So it doesn't it doesn't have
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anything. They would hate that.
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They made the suggestion, they would hate that you do we want
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real glass? We are in fire.
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He went to Great to full of barbed wire that's on fire.
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That's what they. That's the are the ones on this.
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So the one company was like, Hey we're doing a barbed wire no
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rope match like a barbed wire rope Max.
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I'm like gimmick barbed wire right there like No.
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And I was like, all right? I said Remember the video of
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Sabu where he lost his bicep fell out of his arm like that's
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that's what's gonna happen. Yeah.
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And I always get nervous because I had always make sure I always
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get nervous because somebody's going to get hurt on one of
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these shows because it doesn't take, I mean, like I get hurt
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all the time and I'm a Maybe about it, you know what I mean?
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But imagine I don't know. Ya know, that's kind of the one
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thing that like I guess sometimes I want to working in
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Pennsylvania I'm like all right at least I'm safe in.
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Pennsylvania are not going to have that going on because the
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athletic commissions, very strict.
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But then soon as you cross that you are now in Jersey.
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It's just like the wild west and you have no idea who you're
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coming into a wrestling show on that side of the state.
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Yep. Oh, yeah.
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And, and yeah, being that far away from home to that, that
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makes me nervous too. You know.
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Yeah, no, honestly I don't know if I ever talk about the
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podcast. One of my biggest fears is
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driving because you know, I got people do the car ride, right?
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So you fill up a car full of people and like already get
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home, super, super late. But what if somebody in your car
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like gets hurt and you're sitting at the ER, for the next
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45 hours, let it gives like. Oh, that's awful.
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Yeah, and that's, that I'm leaning.
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That would definitely be my job to sit in the yard with someone
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for four or five hours. Like, I know, I know that going
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into it, if someone gets hurt, I'm Be the one freaking out and
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taking him to the hospital. Absolutely is.
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Yeah. So, so now that you're not that
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night, you're not involved in the XPW thing and you said,
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you're branching out doing things.
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What are some of your goals that you're trying to accomplish now?
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Well, I want to, I don't know if I want to give it away because I
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haven't announced it, but I have it all here, but I have a big
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idea that I think will catch on and be important.
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If I can connect all the red dots.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, I got something.
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I got something cool playing that.
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I don't think has ever been done before and I'm excited about it.
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So uke, gonna have to wait and see how this pans out because I
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don't want to be the guy. That's like I'm building a
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monster truck and then you just check in a weekly.
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Like, how is your monster truck? Oh, I got the tires.
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Don't don't talk about until it's complete.
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I like, I like that. I like that moment was right
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there. So the look and the character,
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how did this come about? And what are you going for?
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For this, for this, this character?
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And this look at you got going on.
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Well, I've always been a punk since our, you know, mid high
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school. So I really came into it.
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Looking how I look and being who I am.
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I did, I did Radio 4 years and I did from DJing and promoting
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shows way before I was in wrestling.
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So I've always kind of just been who I am and then it just kind
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of worked for rustling. So that's so that was kind of
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like Just kind of just luck. I just kind of grew into this.
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And it's just, this was just the next step and I was, I mean, Rob
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just kind of found means like, you're weird, you've never been
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arrested before but you didn't, you know, your you're going to
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be my assistant, you're going to be funny on TV.
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I go, I know, I can be funny on TV like that's probably the only
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thing I'm really good at is being funny on TV.
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So yeah, I love to be funny on TV.
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Yeah, yeah, I love the look. I guess said the old punk Rook
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Look. And then you have like a little
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bit of like like the like the bad guy or the comic relief and
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like an 80s movie. You know what I mean?
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Really good. Summary of who I am as a person
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and sometimes it gets annoying. I know I'm a very annoying /.
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I'm like the Gilbert godfried of wrestling and I know that it's
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very annoying. And, and like I said, when I
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went out this show and Tennessee is soon as I walked out, they
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hated that I was born and I mean and everyone backstage was like,
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this is a really The crowd like because everyone there no one's
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smart marking, it's just everyone thinks it's real or
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just they're just so happy to be in a wrestling show.
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That I mean, necro, Butcher and hillbilly will not before me and
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everyone was singing. The u.s. a song with them and he
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was like how cold it was. Well you're in Tennessee and
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necrobutcher walked out a trump hat on so I'm sure sure I went
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over very well. It was like, it was like, Hulk
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Hogan came to like Rocky, Top, Tennessee.
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He was sober and I walk out and they Just like this fucking guy,
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they hated. I'm gonna make their like the
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guy backstage, Brad. Cash goes well you cut a promo,
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get some heat. And I was like, what could I
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possibly say to set these wonderful people?
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You think he's like just say anything trust me.
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I go. All right, and I was like, most
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human beings I've ever seen use hair gel problem.
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Yeah, probably. Yeah.
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So I go, they go. Will make fun of like a sports
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team. I don't know.
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I don't, I don't make fun of sports teams and then he goes.
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Well, call them rednecks. Isn't I don't want to call them
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rednecks, that seems cheap. So I go out there and I go I go,
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everybody Told Me Not to Come to Rocky Top, Tennessee, but and
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then they start going crazy ago. But I disagree with that.
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I think this is a nice place. You have a Wendy's up the
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street, you guys can eat like, kings for four dollars and forty
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four said, you should be proud to be from Rocky Top Tennessee.
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Then they, there was no hard campsite was this.
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The hard cam is like some kid with a phone.
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I do this, the hard him right here.
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Of course, you couldn't afford a hard game, but that's okay.
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And the Flight of the flyer said, the flyer said, bring your
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own chair. So I go, I go.
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Well, I see that all of you brought your own chair and I'm
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really impressed that you could read the flyer.
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Well enough to know to bring your own chair.
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And someone was like, sitting on like a bin of like the thing,
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like you keep like Christmas ornaments and or whatever.
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I think, oh, this person brought the bin that they keep their
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This ornament that's it in, you could pick three people on that
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thing, you guys should be proud of yourselves and better and I
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was just, I couldn't even get the words and people were so
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mad. Like, I love it.
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Yeah, it was a, it was like Atomic.
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Yeah. I that's something I might be
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leaning into going into this year's doing a little more.
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He'll I've been playing a little more of the he'll roll on
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commentary. Yeah, especially in Jersey.
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I'm always, I'm always trajan Jersey on commentary.
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It's fun. It's fun playing the bad guy,
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sometimes. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's for
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when I first did the first couple XPW appearances, they
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were booing me, but then they kind of learn to like me, you
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know what I mean? And then towards the end, they
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were cheering me. But like, in the beginning, new
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circuit, really funny. That's when people are like, oh
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man, that's what a that's like. Like, when I go to Jersey, I'm
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always making fun of, I go for the cheap heat on commentary,
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but no one's really listening to commentary unless it listen to
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the show back. And then when people messaging
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like, you know, I listened to the show when you were very
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entertaining, like, oh, You have that means a lot.
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But and though I have all the rest like that, I feel like I'm
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doing a decent job when wrestlers are like you.
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I want to work an angle with you.
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Where like, we rival like a wrestler, I'm like, I'm sorry.
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I know I don't take bombs and I don't wrestle.
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So if your payoff is me taking a bump, it's never going to
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happen. I'm not Bobby Heenan out here.
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Yeah. But the fact that they want to
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engage with me because I'm decent at talking trash on
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commentary. So that's kind of fun.
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Yeah, yeah, that's good. That means you're doing a good
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job. Yes.
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His wrestling really is. Isn't you really realize the
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people that get over the most are like when you come out to
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the, you know, a cool theme song or when you look a certain way,
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like you can take all the bumps in the world, but you have to
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imitate what song you come out to.
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I just came out to a bunch of noise because I my first
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character was like a noise artist.
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Yeah. So I just come out to like, like
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the beginning of like, Mick Foley and Razor, Ramon like tire
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screeches and smashing, and yeah, but it's worse than that.
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It's really annoying like a bad. I've never got to come out to
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music because I'm a commentary guy, but I always joke around
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like if you ever have commentary music I want.
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Let's hear it for the boy. Yeah.
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That really cheesy song for I think it's from like Footloose.
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Yeah. Well you dance.
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Yeah. If you ever want to like a roar
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like a snack on the amount like Jr and JP.
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Jerry Lawler came out to the theme song so maybe you should
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watch him that and pay back if he's, you know, he's becoming
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bigger. So you know he's getting music
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when he comes out. He got a whole entrance of the
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rumble commentaries changing for people.
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Especially commentary people who break in that aren't from the
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wrestling business. We break in because of like
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content creating so yeah, it's getting a good path for people
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like me. But yeah, so one of the things I
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guess we kind of have a little bit in common is just from did
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like you said, music before wrestling and that's kind of
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where I got into I was I was helping with a band.
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A little bit like just the cut local cover band and I have a
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few buddies who give some cool things but it's so crazy.
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How much the independent music scene bouncing from bar to bar,
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a dive bar, dive bar and event. Then gig to Gig his so similar
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to Independent wrestling and the more gimmicky weird shit you do.
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The more you're going to get booked as a band.
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So people are doing weird. Funny things, absolutely.
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Yes. I booked puncture.
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Shows and a couple of small Punk Fest for years.
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I always just liked being a wrestling fan.
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I because I knew it was going to be stressful.
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I knew it was going to be like that but almost like kind of
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worse, you know what I mean? So I always was like I just like
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being a wrestling fan. I do still kind of miss being a
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wrestling fan because it was a lot less to worry about.
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He just left as soon as the show is over, you know what I mean?
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Well we do have a question the chat.
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If there's any question that pop up, you don't want to answer,
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you don't have to Have you have Rico Harris's, how is Rob black
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for successful? What is with his personality,
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and all? Now, he's a very polarizing
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figure. There has been well,
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documentation of raw black stories, and dark sides and
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stuff like that. That's out there.
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You know. Yes.
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Okay. So he is successful because he
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doesn't give up. He is not a quitter.
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I mean, he is persistent. He will shove himself down.
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Your throat until you just accept it.
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I think that's how he's successful.
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He doesn't give up. He doesn't go away.
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He backs up what he says he's gonna do and yeah, he's dead.
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That's how he's successful. How was it working with him?
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And when all that stuff was like, I mean the stuff the
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stories are ages old and now they kind of get resurfaced with
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me, you know? Yeah, New England storytelling
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and documentaries and stuff. How did how did you guys as a
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company in XP w? Navigate through those Waters.
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He, I mean he just kind of just keeps tracking along and he just
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He just keeps pushing and he just keeps pushing, and pushing
21:29
and pushing. And he just, he knows people he
21:33
knows people hate him and he accepts that and I think he
21:36
likes that people 80. He gets off on me, he gets off
21:39
on the Heat and He doesn't care what people say on the internet.
21:44
He, I mean, he made a shirt that says, fuck Rob black.
21:48
He sells a shirt that says, Spock Rob black.
21:50
So I think definitely gets off on the controversy.
21:54
Yeah, that's probably the best way to lean into.
21:56
It is just just Dive headfirst, Right?
22:00
I don't even know because I would try to be like, maybe we
22:04
should, you know, not do this, not do there.
22:07
Maybe I go people will freak out on the internet about this and
22:10
he was just like, I don't give a fuck.
22:11
Fuck. Oh man, I'm just be like, Okay,
22:15
I guess the company that he's established and it's not really
22:21
it's not really a people-pleasing company.
22:24
Anyway, you guys are going to do what you do and and then I go
22:27
down that route. You don't?
22:28
I mean it's like you're gonna, you're gonna push the envelope,
22:30
you're going to do things that people are gonna be like oh was
22:32
that a good idea? And that's kind of what kind of
22:34
want they lead into. And if they came out and
22:36
apologized for everything, they wouldn't have that edge.
22:38
And the scary kind of thing is is that there's people that want
22:42
that, they really want a fence. Of angles, they really want that
22:45
late 90s, shock value that I don't think works today.
22:49
Yes, Springer rustling is what I like to call it Howard.
22:53
Stern. Wrestling is what I'm going to
22:54
call it. Ed even Howard Shades.
22:58
You can even Howard change, but Rob didn't, but yeah, it's that
23:02
very late 90s. Culture that I am kind of like
23:07
dude. Oh, come on man.
23:09
Like this is not cool. I thought when this cancel
23:14
culture stuff was getting in like this and I'm not I'm not a
23:17
hundred percent against it. I think there are some people
23:19
out there who who needed to be called out, who needed to be
23:22
addressed, who need to change the way they do things.
23:24
And there's certain things in this business that we should not
23:26
allow anymore. And there's certain things that
23:28
shouldn't go down in this business anymore, and people
23:30
should be treated treated with respect, and if they're not
23:32
comfortable, they should be able to speak up.
23:33
So in that aspect, I'm all for cancel culture but then it did
23:37
get then it got to a point where like you couldn't talk about
23:39
certain things. You couldn't do jokes about
23:41
certain things. These certain things were taboo
23:42
to talk about and I said this is only going to last as a society
23:46
and as a culture so long and the people are going to revert back
23:49
really hard on it, and it's going to be happy learning
23:52
because once you tell someone they can't do something or say
23:54
something or there's going to be that one person who's going to
23:57
do it and then it's going to pop or just everybody's canceled.
24:01
So there's nobody left. So it's just all canceled people
24:04
like I can Over the fuck I want now, because I'm already
24:07
canceled, that's what I think. I see a lot of especially what's
24:10
happening in rustling. Now, a lot of people who were
24:12
cancelled are just coming back out and they're like, hey, we're
24:15
here. If this guy can do it in this
24:17
guy can do in this guy can do it and Vince McMahon is allowed to
24:19
do it, you know? I mean like what do we like,
24:22
you're going to, you're going to not promote my pro-business but
24:25
you're going to go to WrestleMania this year and and
24:28
all my stuff's in public and Forbes talks about it and no
24:31
one's saying a word and people are taking a paycheck from me.
24:35
Hard to justify it you know what I mean?
24:37
Oh absolutely. And like a back to this a lot of
24:41
the fans that really embrace the bad parts of it.
24:46
Those are those are some scary weird people and a lot of the
24:50
wrestling fans are just you know nothing and XP W is blatantly
24:54
racist. But a lot of the fans are just
24:57
really catching on to the mega mega shit and just the type of
25:00
people that they're catching on for the wrong reasons and I
25:04
suck. And I was seeing a lot of that
25:06
and like, and that was just kind of like very cringe to mean, it
25:10
was like, this is not, I'm not comfortable with this, you know
25:13
what I mean? Oh God, sir, that's, that's
25:16
definitely fair that. I mean, that's, that's kind of
25:19
what happened. A lot of me like, like,
25:21
opportunities. Come for companies.
25:22
I said, I'm not sure yet. Like, I'm not sure if I'm ready
25:24
to dive into that because like, I'm not opposed of, I'm a fan of
25:30
Comedy. I'm a fan of stand-up, I'm a fan
25:31
of this and I know sometimes you're not like, they don't want
25:33
you to, I'm a fan of her. Hardcore horror movies.
25:36
And there's some people who say that there are certain things
25:38
that shouldn't be done in horror movies and I say, like, that's
25:40
what kind of makes it a horror movie, you know, that that
25:43
uncomfortableness, that moment where you don't feel, okay?
25:46
With what you're watching is kind of what makes that product
25:48
good and and a hard to watch in certain aspects.
25:52
So I definitely see how that how places in professional wrestling
25:56
have that but it just like are you willing to put your stamp
25:58
on? It is what it comes down to.
26:00
Exactly and I mean I I didn't quit XP, obviously, you know
26:04
what I mean? I was I was I wasn't gonna go
26:07
anywhere. I'm not saying like I'm not
26:09
saying I was uncomfortable or it was bad.
26:11
I'm just, there were things that I was just like, oh, really.
26:15
And I would speak up and robbed someone to be like, what are
26:18
you? Why do you gotta be like that?
26:19
What are you gonna? And it was, they would shut it.
26:22
That they shut down things real quick.
26:24
And also when something goes too far, they go.
26:28
Oh, it's fake. You know what I mean?
26:29
I'm like not really like how is like it's fake when he wanted to
26:34
be fake. Fake.
26:35
It's real. All those other times, you know
26:37
what I mean? It was very a very just like
26:41
pulling the wool over people's eyes to get away with what they
26:43
want. Yeah.
26:46
Yeah. No.
26:46
I definitely. I and that happens more times
26:49
than you'd like to admit in the professional wrestling world.
26:51
Not just that company alone, you know?
26:53
Yeah. Yeah.
26:54
So what what example kind of rewind the clock here, you said
26:59
you've always been arresting fan.
27:00
What was that moment? What was that thing in?
27:02
Professional wrestling growing up.
27:03
That you seen you're like oh this is for me.
27:06
That's a great question. I loved the theatrics, I love
27:09
the characters. I love the humor.
27:12
I loved all the goofy shit. I loved all the goofy 90s
27:15
characters and the early 90s and I just like the entertainment of
27:20
it. And then One Ring of Honor came
27:23
out and I was like whoa these guys are really good athletes
27:27
and these guys are really, they can be funny and they can really
27:31
be athletic and they can really fight and that's when I was
27:34
going like, okay there's more to just the funniness and
27:38
entertainment. This is a real like sport.
27:42
You know what I mean? So it was the cops already on a
27:44
really made me fall in love with it, more than I've been before.
27:50
I was a huge fan my entire life. Life.
27:53
But I didn't, I just kind of saw it as a fun kind of thing to
27:55
watch until then. Yeah.
27:59
So you essentially, you went from watching guys, be like
28:02
everyday. Occupation workers are like
28:04
truck drivers and dumpster. I mean garbage truck collectors
28:10
to like now they can do that but as well as be like insane
28:13
athletes in the roh side, who's always talent that you seem to
28:16
like oh boy, this is like I joined.
28:18
This is jarring that they're clearly different breed of
28:21
different wrestler. Dude, everybody on that roster
28:24
the entire time you could send a guy like Matt Hardy there you'd
28:27
be different, you know what I mean?
28:29
Ring of Honor every match on the card from beginning to end was
28:33
like real like it's the realest wrestling at ever seen in my
28:36
life. It was like a real.
28:38
Something about the Ring of Honor shows, just every match,
28:41
every guy in the roster was just not like anybody else in any
28:46
other company and you see what like when like Cesaro goes to
28:49
WWE. You see that, but it's just
28:52
There's something, there's something magical.
28:55
There was something magical about Ring of Honor that just
28:58
brought out something in every wrestler that you don't know.
29:03
And that really made me be like, ring of up.
29:05
Like everyone says, like, my favorite wrestling company was
29:08
this, or that my favorite wrestling company of my favorite
29:11
time in wrestling was the early Ring of Honor stuff because
29:14
that's when I, that's what I was, you know, turning 18 and
29:17
could drive around the shows. And that's when I first started,
29:20
traveling, to wrestling show, Susan.
29:23
That's when I really fell in love with wrestling.
29:25
Was that early Ring of Honor stuff and all the way through
29:28
Ring of Honor stuff. Yeah, yeah.
29:31
And I mean, that kind of paved the way for what we watch now in
29:34
professional wrestling. Like I've said numerous times on
29:37
this show as well. Like listen, I know people love
29:40
what's mainstream or what's popular.
29:41
But if you like wrestling right now and you're saying like, hey,
29:44
maybe the storylines are lacking, but talent-wise
29:47
wrestling is better now than it's ever been in ring wise
29:50
because of who's around. Those people can still work
29:53
really fun angles. If you let them do it because
29:55
they came from the roh as they came from g'kar, as they work,
29:58
the C ZW s and GC W is like like the Northeast Wrestling scene is
30:04
flooded with, just amazingly talented people and all, but
30:08
maybe six people that are on TV right now.
30:10
All came from this area, they're all born and bred Jersey.
30:14
PA Delaware New York Connecticut wrestling even up to Boston
30:20
wrestlers and it's It's insane. Like I think the Lesnar Roman
30:27
and like Ronda Rousey and Charlotte.
30:30
Every time you look just like a handful of the top, top people
30:32
are the only ones who didn't really come from this system and
30:35
everybody else especially on the aew, the NXT.
30:38
Like the P. Like are all from this area and
30:40
they have been grinding and it's kind of cool to see like people
30:43
who you if you go back in the history books and look they've
30:45
all came from those. Roh has like shit our wages.
30:48
Essentially what made NXT black and gold the most successful
30:50
brand on television And then like that and then it can exceed
30:54
turned into a w. And the, you know, I mean it was
30:56
just it was crazy. And most of them are like my
30:59
age, I don't know how old you are.
31:00
It was like, these are guys, my age like killing it, and just
31:04
like doing so things that you never thought wrestling
31:08
progress. It changed pro wrestling.
31:10
And that's was like, that's how people little bit older than me.
31:13
Look at ECW like this changed wrestling, but I was a little
31:17
too young on ECW was around. So, Ring of Honor is like my,
31:20
like this is what changed? Going.
31:22
This is what made wrestling cool to me.
31:26
However, he will saying to me like, oh, I rather watch ECW
31:29
because it's legitimate. Let's just, let's just
31:31
legitimately real. And I was like, and I remember
31:34
because I was like, the younger. I was kind of a smarter fan.
31:36
I was like, it's still definitely wrestling but no,
31:39
they're definitely sticking each other with sharp objects and
31:42
legit making themselves. Bleed.
31:44
And I was like, this is crazy. Oh yeah.
31:47
And I love you too. Yeah, but I'm a big ECW fans.
31:52
But it's we've been going back and watching some old paper
31:55
views and some of that stuff is tough to watch.
31:57
I'm not well as I won't be easy W, I don't want to ruin her
32:00
people but some of those people were not good at drinking like
32:04
crazy it was so it was sloppy and they're doing things that
32:08
never done been done before. So like um how do you, what are
32:13
the different ways you can put someone through a table?
32:15
Let's, let's Sabu, try. Whatever he wants to do, you
32:18
know? And it was Louis happening,
32:20
right Mo, there was bright people in.
32:22
ECW that definitely and they would do crazy things.
32:25
That would definitely outshine when people weren't very good.
32:28
Like there's a few tag team matches are like, the undercard
32:30
matches were like, they couldn't throw punches.
32:32
They like they like, like their footwork was off.
32:35
It was just like, just go in there and brawl not making like,
32:39
yep. And I mean, we all know that
32:41
there was a lot of drugs and alcohol and that type of shit
32:44
going on in ECW and that you can tell when somebody's, like
32:47
fucking hammered out there, you know.
32:49
And they're trying some sloppy dangerous shit.
32:52
You know, like what they were. They were like, that's gonna
32:55
happen rustling. Now, is everyone's trying to be
32:57
the new ECW and let's do that edgy.
32:59
And then we don't care if what happens back stays or it's like
33:02
controversy sells tickets and you're like, ooh, I mean, that,
33:05
that's kind of stuff that should been left in the past, like,
33:08
unprotected, headshots head, share, shots and stuff.
33:11
It's like that's yeah, that's rough.
33:12
Rico with another one here. Do you think the fans are
33:15
turning the wrestling business doing a monopoly?
33:17
More of the major companies only supporting mainstream promotions
33:20
and even more talking shit. About the other companies, I
33:24
would say yes. And well, I think the
33:26
independent scene is bigger now. I think it's ever ever been
33:28
ever. I think so too.
33:30
And I'm going to say no, because I only, I mean, obviously, I in
33:35
Deathmatch promotions, but I don't see anyone, Even I do most
33:40
of the people I don't don't watch WWE or even 80 w at this
33:44
point only. If one of our only if someone we
33:46
know is going to be on, aw do we watch?
33:49
Aw and we def I don't know who I don't know.
33:52
Who the hell was in the Royal Rumble when I watched half the
33:54
guys, I didn't I didn't know they were yeah I mean I
33:57
definitely watch a mix of both but I think the independent
34:00
seems now is so it's it's a lot easier to find them.
34:04
It's easier to watch independent wrestling than it is impact and
34:07
it is the New Japan. Pan, you know, I mean like you
34:09
can literally go to. I WT V, it subscribe, and
34:12
there's hundreds, and thousands of wrestling promotions are
34:15
independent all over the world for one low fries.
34:18
Now, you can get gcw on fight plus and then gcw with Phi,
34:22
plus, is going to get your house, the glory, and all these
34:24
other independent wrestling promotions in there.
34:26
That are on there. Like your PP W is and
34:28
everything. Like and then YouTube people
34:30
have their entire catalog on their YouTube channels, its
34:33
independent wrestling. This is is not hard to find and
34:36
a lot of people you are watching on TV.
34:38
That's Outside, the WB system are still putting matches on
34:41
even though they're signed to other companies out in the
34:43
independency. Yep.
34:44
So I don't yes, I'm going to say no to that question.
34:48
And there's so much you could know.
34:50
I don't think anyone could keep up with the wrestling today.
34:53
I asked me if anyone could? Yeah, I try and I just try what
34:58
made mainstream stuff like you have r on Monday.
35:01
Tuesday's NXT Wednesday's. Aw.
35:03
Thursday is like impact. If you if you can find if you
35:06
can if you're into it and then Friday your Ada Smackdown in.
35:09
Aw, again. And then the weekends, it's just
35:12
filled with independent stuff. It's hard to keep and then you
35:15
have NWA, that's still there. You've gcw like, it's just, you
35:18
know, hacked full of stuff. Yeah, I remember when that used
35:22
to be three minor, when they just be three Star Wars movies.
35:28
If you're, if you're an Enthusiast, you could know all
35:30
the characters. And there were a lot of
35:31
characters with three movies, you know what I mean?
35:34
But you could have a beaut have a book and with pictures of our,
35:37
you have all the Configure, as you go, there's hundreds of Star
35:40
Wars characters. Just from these three movies and
35:43
I think I can have a grasp on it, then three more movies, came
35:46
out and you kind of like your basil.
35:48
Like, you know, that one movie with a guy, stood in the
35:50
background with the cool helmet. He has his own movie, you're
35:53
like, wow. Yeah, you couldn't keep track of
35:56
all the characters or even all the stories now and it kind of
36:01
that, I feel like that happened kind of quick.
36:02
Maybe I'm getting old, but that happened kind of fast.
36:06
And I think wrestling is in the same thing.
36:08
You used to be able to keep up with all the wrestlers and all
36:12
the companies, and some of the weird companies even to, you
36:16
could keep up with it, but I don't think anyone could keep up
36:18
with it today. Yeah.
36:22
So you know you said you're kind of brash not work in different
36:25
states. What are some other promotions
36:26
that people should keep an eye on our some Talent?
36:28
That's out there, that that you're pretty proud, that you're
36:31
proud of that. You see that you're seeing out
36:33
there now besides the ones mentioned earlier, right?
36:36
Well, I'm managing hardcore, he is a deathmatch wrestler, he's
36:41
kind of like Wolverine. It seems like he likes the pain,
36:45
it doesn't hurt either. He's a, he's a wild character
36:48
and so him and I are going to be going to Detroit for Hold on,
36:54
we're going to Detroit's. Yeah, hello.
36:59
How those this in your little pocket.
37:01
We're going to treat March 18th for True wrestling underground.
37:05
And that's a no ring a deathmatch show and Chuck
37:09
Stein's going to be on that. I have an eye on him.
37:11
Basically, any Russell that's a punk I have my eye on and that's
37:15
part of the big plan that may be coming.
37:18
May be happening. I'm keeping an eye on all the
37:20
punk rustlers. Things that exist in the world,
37:24
not just in my area. So one of my favorite shows that
37:29
happen every year in gcw, bringing it back this year and
37:32
I'm sorry if this offends you I like all generals music.
37:34
I I wouldn't consider myself as much as punk as I used to
37:38
because I have branched out into so many vast different styles of
37:41
music but I get really excited for the gcw emo shows and Emos.
37:45
Just sad boy punk what we need more punk rock's like could you
37:52
imagine a punk rock band shows up, just give them a small
37:54
little corner because they're used to it.
37:56
They and they play a couple songs in a wrestling match that
37:59
happens or two that intermission they go and play a couple more
38:02
and just like they'll like and it's perfect for those.
38:04
No ring Deathmatch. Bar shows like down a piece on
38:08
your ground. That's the first show I ever
38:09
seen that it was no ring and they just fought on a stage and
38:12
Fe and Paro just killed each other.
38:14
And you know, I mean that's like that, that would be perfect for
38:18
the punk rock scene, like people would eat that shit up.
38:21
Absolutely Casanova. Valentine is, do it kind of
38:24
doing stuff like that? Where a punk band.
38:26
There'll be like two matches. So he's got his finger kind of
38:31
on the pulse of that happening. And I'm a big fan of his
38:34
obviously. And he so I think, I think Punk
38:38
and wrestling because when you go to the show's, most of the
38:40
people are dressed kind of Punky.
38:42
And I include emo in that but mostly he's a very alternative
38:47
crowd. The type of people that like the
38:50
Deathmatch, no ring shows are an alternative bunch and I think
38:55
when Started like proposing like that to like Robbie was like,
39:00
Punk is dead or Punk is not cool.
39:02
And it's kind of like, look at the audience.
39:04
You know what I mean? Like, it's guys and girls my age
39:08
or younger that are wearing leather, patchy jackets and
39:13
stuff. Like, this is who likes this
39:15
type of shit goodness. And it's not even that I want to
39:19
make a million dollars off of him.
39:20
I want them to feel like, this is my product, you know what I
39:24
mean? Yeah.
39:25
And I think, For me anyways. What were the reason I'm
39:28
grasping on so hard to it. As I love independent, I love
39:31
independent everything. I love that little guy taking
39:34
down the big guy, or the little and that's Punk.
39:36
That's being. I mean, and yeah, and I think a
39:38
lot of people, how we're saying earlier, like, maybe you're
39:42
leaning a little too hard in the storylines and maybe the people
39:45
who are not putting on the storylines, are who they are
39:47
portraying. But the people who are buying
39:49
into it, maybe the that crowd and that does get uncomfortable.
39:52
But I think a lot of people see like heavy metal and punk and
39:55
emo and, and Mash wrestling, and they immediately think of one
39:59
style of person. But if you look at like no peace
40:02
underground, it looks like a really hardcore.
40:05
I don't know how I want to be involved in that scene, and
40:08
they're the most open Community to LGBT to every genre of
40:12
person. And that's Punk to, like,
40:14
people. Look at a pumpkin like, oh, he's
40:16
probably a skinhead races, but that's the complete opposite of
40:18
what Punk stands, we have everything.
40:20
It's about, I always say, like, I have friends who, like grew
40:23
up, they got me into Pi hip-hop and I got them in the Punk and I
40:27
said the only difficulty no band is.
40:29
You have a kid drawing. We have we have a real drummer
40:31
but the message is still the same.
40:32
It's poverty and white kids in poverty, black kids, trying to
40:36
get out of a system and fighting against the establishment and
40:39
it's the same message, just two different ways of going about it
40:43
but it's neat and like you said like I think that's where your,
40:46
your deathmatch and your metal scene in your punk scene.
40:49
You're hardcore scene are all have the same mentality and some
40:52
of the best wrestling shows that I experienced in 2022.
40:56
Are And seen in the standings in the scenes of stuff.
40:59
I didn't go to was when they in mixed breweries with wrestling,
41:02
when they mix music with wrestling, when they mix Comic
41:06
Cons with wrestling because you bring that outside audience, who
41:10
not normally wrestling fans and it's some of the best fans ever.
41:12
Like they buy into what's going on and they're better than
41:15
wrestling fans sometimes ha. Yeah, absolutely.
41:18
So I did. I do I do the punks picnic in
41:21
Rochester every summer and it's just like 10, punk bands and
41:25
it's not a park, it's outside. And Rob was like, let's do a
41:29
deathmatch there and I was like, I don't know, man.
41:31
These people haven't seen anything like that before.
41:34
I don't want to get out of control because usually there's
41:36
a fighter too, Justin General at the punks, picnic and I was like
41:40
some of these people might not know what's going on and just
41:42
start fighting, you know what I mean?
41:43
I don't know. And he's like, no, let's just do
41:46
it. So go.
41:46
All right, fine. So I had body and green Phantom,
41:49
come in from Canada and they, we did all the tubes and all the
41:53
weapons and stuff. And I would say 85% of People
41:57
there had never seen anything like that before and they ate it
42:01
up and they loved it and it went really well.
42:04
And there's in the videos the video got shared a million times
42:07
because there's only Punk standing around.
42:10
There's like motorcycles parked out there and shit and just I
42:14
love it. People are just really like,
42:16
what the fuck is this? Like where is this?
42:18
What is this? Rochester New York.
42:20
What the what the hell is going on in Rochester?
42:22
New York, you know? Yeah.
42:24
And it was green Phantom, what? I really hadn't seen too much of
42:28
a while and hard body was still hard, but he was kind of before
42:31
he started blowing up a little bit.
42:33
So just to kind of guys breaking light tubes, over each other's
42:37
heads and jumping off a picnic tables and stuff and people just
42:40
like holy fuck like yeah what do one shot 12 is Devon's Brewer.
42:47
Tony Devon's Brewery in downtown Pottsville they have like three
42:51
city blocks, roped off and it just filled with beer tents and
42:54
the Very middle of the street. A wrestling ring and they put
42:58
wrestling on, dude, everyone's like stop grab beer and then
43:01
went back to the ring and enjoy like and they're not wrestling
43:04
fans. They were there for craft beer
43:06
and like who cares, what wrestling and everybody really
43:09
put in? Like they let their inhibitions
43:11
now and they played into the characters.
43:13
They were heckling they're like do something like and they were
43:15
happy they knew that they knew what was happening.
43:18
But they were having fun while they were doing it.
43:20
And it was honestly, one of my favorite wrestling moments.
43:22
I think going into this year, I think branching into those
43:25
audiences is more Things up wrestling promoters should do is
43:28
like I don't think this will work as we've never done it
43:30
before. I'm telling you bring outside
43:32
wrestling fans in and they will be your new fans and they will
43:35
get into it. And and it makes people who are
43:38
there that are wrestling fans have a more better like have a
43:40
better time because they're like, yeah well they're getting
43:43
into it. Like this is fun.
43:44
Like it's really a good time. Oh absolutely.
43:47
And there's just this there's a there's a and I hate to say this
43:51
but people that have been in the industry for a long time, they
43:54
get kind of stuck. With this is how things have to
43:57
be and as someone who is a fresher face and I'm working
44:00
with some fresher faces. They're like, now we can do this
44:03
different and maybe it'll be cooler if we do it different,
44:06
you know what I mean? And sometimes the right
44:08
sometimes the wrong. But the guys that have been
44:11
doing it for a longer less likely to take the risks.
44:14
And whereas I'm just like I don't expect to be doing this in
44:18
10 years, you know what I mean? So I don't have as much to lose
44:21
as someone that's like, I'm in this in this forever.
44:25
Where's I'm? They told me tomorrow.
44:28
Get the fuck out of here. I'd be like, all right, I'll do
44:31
something. I could run.
44:35
Yeah, another one. That was fun.
44:37
It was a brewery show is for Avery Goods last match and they
44:40
did a like, an eight-man are for men scramble.
44:44
Our a format of no, trios tag. I think it was, I don't
44:47
remember, but it was Ultra Magnus black and, and like The
44:50
Outsiders all when I guess each other and Ultra, Magnus came
44:53
down to the ring, and then all you looked Already just went
44:56
like this and his band just started rocking out.
44:59
And for the first 15 minutes of the match was just them
45:02
wrestling to his band. Going crazy, just making noise
45:05
it was still and everybody like this is like I think what
45:13
happens is is to put in music and they don't do it right.
45:17
Hence we are humble that. Let's just put this guy in the
45:20
middle of the ring and have him be the spectacle in the ring.
45:23
No, no. People are coming to see what's
45:24
happening in that ring. Put music on the stage and let
45:28
it happen. You know what I mean?
45:29
Like, you gotta it's it's not, it cannot be done.
45:34
Like people just see those members of mania and it ruins it
45:36
for everybody because you're like, oh, they just played the
45:38
wrestler out, like there's other ways you could do it without us
45:41
hunting, the wrestling show. Absolutely.
45:43
And I mean, we still talk about the Misfits having three matches
45:47
and WCW. You know what I mean?
45:49
Like and they weren't good. And they had three matches and
45:53
they weren't matches against anybody famous, but we Still
45:56
talk about that. You know what I mean?
45:58
So much out here said, Is it true that?
46:00
Courtney, Love's lawyer contact you during a live stream.
46:04
Is that true? They're not asking me either.
46:07
Are they asking you? Oh, yes, Courtney Love's Laird.
46:10
But we're cool. It's fine.
46:12
Don't know. Yeah.
46:13
The only time a woman has a small from Courtney Love.
46:15
I heard, I heard some things friends were tight, it's okay.
46:21
Yes, we're friends. Courtney Love and I go way back,
46:25
it's fine. No big deal.
46:27
But yes, I do. I did get a message in the
46:29
morning. Is there, is there more to that?
46:32
You can dive into, are you? In that one lone.
46:35
Well, when you're dealing with a lawyer Anthony, I you don't you
46:41
don't mess with the lawyer. Listen Courtney Love's first
46:47
albums, still to this day of anger, you know?
46:50
I don't have anything bad ass legally.
46:52
I can't say anything about it. Yeah, we're going to leave it at
46:56
that because like I said, I don't want Courtney Love Smoke.
46:59
Don't want that. This person said they fought
47:01
Courtney. Love in a bar.
47:03
That's a wealthy, man. I wouldn't.
47:05
Like I said, I won't Courtney Love Smoke.
47:07
She's like, the dawn. Oh, I know.
47:12
Okay, so, so, you know, way before I was in the scene,
47:17
Courtney Love, Came to Rochester, and she stage-dive
47:22
that a bar. And someone took the wedding
47:25
ring that Kurt, Cobain gave her took it, and Kurt, Cobain had,
47:29
like just died, like a couple years before that.
47:33
She so she flips the fuck out gets under my skin.
47:37
Who has the ring? My Me.
47:39
Maybe the rain just fell down a sewer grate.
47:40
You know what I mean? We don't know what happened to
47:42
the ring but I'm just falling off.
47:46
So she gets on the mic and she's like, who took the ring?
47:49
And everyone's kind of like I don't know.
47:50
And she started like attacking people that happened in
47:53
Rochester. I don't I don't hate her for it.
47:57
I would be honest, what? She was like a shit.
48:01
She was like a fucked-up jump. She was definitely not on in the
48:05
right state of mind either, but she's just lost, you know, one
48:09
of our greatest number of greatest people in that ever
48:11
lived on this planet I love me some cursed but yeah crazy was
48:15
discovered it was never no one ever took the blame for it.
48:18
I could have just maybe she never had the, I don't know.
48:21
We don't know what happened. It seems as The Story Goes Is
48:25
locally people dislike? She came, she acted crazy.
48:28
She attacked my it'll be like, oh she attacked.
48:30
Blah, blah, blah, you know them. I go.
48:32
Yeah. Yeah.
48:33
Oh she attacked them. That's a nice person.
48:35
You know what? So she was attacking people and
48:37
just going crazy in Rochester. That's the urban legend.
48:40
But that yeah. That's that's why, that's why
48:42
her lawyers on the chat. Yeah, yeah.
48:46
Yeah. I guess I am not a, I could
48:50
definitely see how that have a lot left issues, but not really
48:54
efficient. Looks down and that's a prized
48:56
possession. You know, that's gone.
48:58
That's going to trigger anybody, especially around that time, you
49:00
know. But all right, we're getting
49:02
close to the end of the moment. If anyone has any more
49:04
questions, please get him in there.
49:06
Well, I have a question for you. So I'll usually do what we
49:09
usually do. Like a draft, but we're not
49:10
going to do a drop. I'm just going to ask you
49:12
personally. I'm going to give you five
49:14
albums yet. The pick five of your favorite
49:16
punk albums. If people in the chat here, are
49:18
going to say, hey I need new something new to listen to our
49:21
something new to discover. What are your five?
49:24
I've desert island punk rock albums.
49:27
Now I'm putting you on the spot. I know there's no prep to this.
49:30
You should have. Let me write this head of time.
49:34
The Dead Boys record like the best.
49:37
The number one Dead, Boys record.
49:38
Can I just say, like, best of CDs.
49:41
Yeah, passed away. Yeah, and burns.
49:42
You can just say, bands of people can explore.
49:44
Yeah, Buzzcocks Dead, Boys. Buzzcocks Dead, Boys.
49:52
Damned muskox. Dead, Boys.
50:00
Damned. I'm not going to say the cramps.
50:04
I'm not going to see The Ramones.
50:07
Back on the mainstream, Punk. Trying to think now that was
50:14
too. That's too hard buddy.
50:16
But here's all right. Here's what I'm going to tell
50:18
you. I subscribe to a lot of YouTube
50:21
pages that just post like whatever new Punk comes out and
50:25
they updated like every day or something.
50:27
I'll link you to that or where care if anybody cares.
50:31
There's a couple YouTube Pages. I've basically I listen to like
50:36
Something new two or three times a week and then I'll be, I'll be
50:41
like, oh that's cool or like, oh, that's not so cool.
50:43
That's what that up with all of this.
50:47
Yes. So, um, basically, I can't see
50:51
the chat. What are people saying?
50:52
What are people saying? That's the best place on the 77
50:56
Search and Destroy a DWI. Dri GHB, the casualties, the
51:01
business, Yeah, there, that's a great list.
51:04
That's a wonderful list, but I'm, I'll link their like, green
51:10
day but they're Irish, they're like all Irish dudes or
51:13
Scottish, dudes, but they sound a lot like old-school, dookie
51:15
green day. If Pete, if you're still
51:17
watching, tell me in the chat. What that van was.
51:20
But little, if you close your eyes and didn't know you're
51:22
listening to, you would think you're listening to Green Day,
51:24
but they were really, really entertaining friend of yours.
51:28
Told you about this. Lets them on the way to a car.
51:32
On the way to a show. He's like, I told how I like
51:34
green day and he's like, ever. Listen to this band.
51:36
They are like a Scottish version of Green Day.
51:39
Isn't it? Nice to have friends like that?
51:40
That will show you new music. Those are the best friend's my
51:43
favorite. If you have to chose your new
51:46
music, that's the friend. You gotta take out the dinner.
51:49
That's the friend. You gotta, you know, do you
51:51
know? I don't know.
51:52
Buy drinks, just a either Brandon here.
51:56
It might be. I don't know.
51:57
Kimberly steaks. I haven't heard of that, but
52:00
I'll check that out. Maybe, I don't know if that's it
52:04
or not. Well, let me know or let the
52:07
people know. Yes Kimberly's, thanks there, a
52:11
Scottish /, Irish, whatever they are Green Day, they sound like
52:15
green, David like a three-piece band.
52:16
They're really good, the drummer's fantastic but you can
52:19
definitely see here when he's singing.
52:20
He's definitely Scottish or Irish.
52:21
He's it's really, really good and like that.
52:24
And I saw Flogging Molly. Last year I was never a Flogging
52:27
Molly fan. I want to see them live and I
52:30
thought that was amazing. They put on our way.
52:33
Good show. And like, it's not warm for the
52:35
first time seeing guar is, like the best thing ever did.
52:39
You get all blood and stuff? I have a, I have a little bit of
52:43
a breeze. I don't take bumps and do
52:45
something wrestling. I have a joint Disorder, so I am
52:47
hypermobility problems. So I would probably get to a pit
52:50
and get knocked down or dislocated knee or an ankle or
52:53
shoulder. Yeah.
52:53
And then my time would be not having fun anymore.
52:56
So I stayed up in like a VIP section because my buddy, my
52:59
buddy opened for Gore, there were called Crobat, so they
53:02
invited us to the show and we were up in the up in the VIP
53:06
area. But all my other friends went
53:08
down and enjoy the pit. So I had a friend who wanted me
53:11
to have a guar experience. So I bought the white shirt.
53:14
She put it on when the pit got all.
53:15
Fucked up for me and brought it back and gave me my guar shirt,
53:18
but they were fun. They're fun live.
53:21
They were sticky. I love sticky stuff.
53:23
Like the cat. The character of the backstory
53:24
is like ghost is another band. I really like just because of
53:27
the backstories and the stuff, they like them.
53:30
Like the pro wrestling aspect of it.
53:31
It's fun. Yeah.
53:33
Yup. Yup, yup.
53:34
I if I had been there for the guara show with you, I would
53:37
have got a glass of the blood and brought it up to you and
53:39
dumped it on you to help use with the experience.
53:42
That would have been cool. Yeah we can start that
53:45
something. I was just I literally just
53:48
drank beer and and enjoyed the show and had a great time.
53:51
I had a really fun time. I thought they were very fun.
53:53
Entertaining band. Absolutely.
53:55
Yeah. They were there.
53:56
They were, they were definitely interesting.
53:58
And I went into war, I knew of guar like through CKY.
54:02
And Bam, Margera. Sarah and that kind of stuff.
54:04
But I never really liked sat down and listened to full albums
54:06
and then we went to the show. So I went in with like, no
54:10
expectations. So like when I sing Warwick,
54:12
seeing go off for the first time, I didn't watch anything
54:14
live. They don't have done because I
54:16
want to experience what they were and it was definitely a, if
54:19
you've never seen guar or even if you have just go, see them
54:22
again. They're a really fun time.
54:24
A friend of mine, got to go to the workshop, where they build
54:26
all the costumes and all the props and shit.
54:28
I'm really jealous. So my other buddy, my buddy
54:32
opened. War and then my other buddy did
54:34
backstage for guar. So he was in charge of the tubes
54:38
and hitting the pumps and stuff like that was his job.
54:41
So he now and then he did that for them and now on this tour,
54:45
he's with I think he's with Anthrax, he's on tour with
54:47
Anthrax right now. Wow.
54:48
Okay. He gets like and he's like a
54:50
guitar tech to so he's like a jack of all trades.
54:52
Like, he can go, he's probably one of the best guitar, but I'm
54:54
not just blowing them up. Like he's probably had be like
54:57
top 10 top 15 Qatar player in the world but he's also such a
55:00
good handyman when it comes to set building and guitar tech.
55:02
And anything you lights sound, he could do all that.
55:05
So he just gets jobs in the rest and the music industry and cool
55:08
ship. Yeah, imagine having talent like
55:11
that. I'm not really good at anything.
55:14
I don't know. I'm not really good at anything.
55:16
That's, that's remarkable. I'm always trying to be friends
55:19
with people that are talented like, that can do things like
55:23
that because I actually open for guar, they did it look up the
55:26
band Crobat that was the van that opened for guar.
55:28
It was, it was Crobat and then who was either been the open,
55:32
they were really. Good neck, roll gobble it neck,
55:34
low kamigamo gone or whatever. And it's a, it's like a punk
55:38
band, but a guy gets on stage dressed as a goblin.
55:41
And he just dances around like a hype, man.
55:44
That sounds a compliment. It's amazing.
55:48
And then like, they give the little Goblin guy like a ukulele
55:51
and he acts like he's shredding on it.
55:52
But he's really not playing it at all.
55:53
But it just like he just got is a goblin hype man in the rest of
55:56
the band is like a normal band. That's exactly what I want to
55:59
see in a show. That's exactly what I'm going to
56:01
blast. It was so much fun.
56:05
If anyone's a fan of Steel Panther Crobat, actually going
56:08
to be on tour with them as of right now.
56:10
I think the rug torso neck, there it is.
56:13
Necro, double coming. That's, that's exactly who they
56:14
are, he nailed it. All right, perfect.
56:17
Yeah, and the cool thing with that, as a guys in costume as a
56:19
goblin and then pro wrestling gets off stage and then people
56:25
line up to get their photo with the like, you know, like You get
56:28
come in the ring and get a photo with the Goblin and they make
56:31
bank. I love it was my face.
56:34
Yeah. Can you sit on his lap for
56:38
Christmas? Tell him what you want?
56:41
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56:46
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56:55
But as anything, that's that we didn't talk about wil that you
56:57
want. Out there.
56:59
I got a couple dates for shows that I wrote down on my piece of
57:02
paper. Let's talk about it.
57:04
All right. February 25th, in Rochester, New
57:07
York, which is, this is actually the first show I've been on in
57:11
my own town, besides the theater brutalities.
57:14
This is my first time doing a show in my own City so that's
57:18
kind of exciting. All my family and friends can
57:20
come check it out. February 25th ewf, it's called
57:25
My Bloody Valentine. I didn't come up with the name.
57:27
Um, but yeah, I will be Talent scouting.
57:33
I suppose I'm doing. A while.
57:40
Oh, we lost them connection issue as well.
57:42
I will, he's back. There you go, you're good.
57:46
Yeah, said your be Talent scouting.
57:49
Yep, and Shane Douglas will be there.
57:51
Okay, I just seen Shane not too long ago.
57:54
I show him in France and were there.
57:56
The first time I think again March 18th true wrestling
58:06
underground in Detroit, that will be a show.
58:09
I'll be a time. We talked about that earlier and
58:12
May May 27. In Toronto.
58:16
The Death Proof tournament. Those are the three dates I have
58:20
booked right now. I'm really looking forward to
58:22
the Toronto show because the Death Proof company was kind of
58:26
what got me into death matches. They do a show.
58:31
It's like a bar. Sure, they have a ring but it's
58:32
like in a bar and it's just real and archaic and everyone's
58:36
Canadian and everyone loves Canadians.
58:39
So those are so I mean, like really, it was kind of like I've
58:42
always want to work with Death Proof and it was That they
58:45
reached out to me and I'm really looking forward to that.
58:49
That's awesome. Yes.
58:50
Well, where can people find you on social media?
58:53
I know the links are below but put your stuff out so people can
58:55
go follow you so they can always stay up-to-date with you and
58:58
find you at these shows the rustling all the wrestling stuff
59:02
is on my wrestling account. I think it's high pitch will
59:05
management but I'm going to change it soon because some
59:08
there's some things that are going to be changing but um it's
59:11
hard part High Pitch Eric ever. Send you the cease-and-desist
59:14
letter. Of using the name.
59:16
No, but I feel like I kind of want to fight him for it.
59:18
You know what I mean? You should fight.
59:21
I want to fight him. I he's bigger than I am, but I
59:24
think I could take him. And I think what?
59:27
Like just because you're big doesn't mean you're like,
59:28
stronger. You know?
59:29
I mean just major factor. Exactly.
59:31
And I think I think we should. I think we should have a fight
59:35
for the name. I agree.
59:36
I think that's what I would like to do.
59:38
I so know I'll fight them but also I don't I'm not really
59:42
trying to keep that name. You know what I mean?
59:44
It was Just gonna give it was kind of just given to me by Rob
59:48
black. Who's like I said stock in the
59:50
late 90s so I'm kind of not feeling myself as that, but I
59:55
mean, if it pops shit that appreciate that, but I think
59:58
you, I think you bring more to the table than just your voice,
1:00:00
you know. Yeah.
1:00:02
And I think it'll pop up on flyers and I'm not going to say
1:00:05
that's not what I go by, but I'm not selling it as that.
1:00:09
And there will be more to come hopefully in the next couple
1:00:12
months that will put that Way. Anyways, so yeah, put it to put
1:00:17
it to put it bad wanted to listen, well, I appreciate you
1:00:21
coming on and hanging out. It was a blast.
1:00:24
This was really, really fun. Like I said some of my favorite
1:00:26
interviews of the ones ride really don't know who the person
1:00:28
that I'm sitting across from, you know, you know, we're doing
1:00:31
the zoom style stuff but listen the door's always open when your
1:00:35
when your big announcement comes and you have more things going
1:00:37
on and things are kicking off for you.
1:00:39
Please hit me up and let's do it again.
1:00:41
I'm going back to the pool. I'm going back to my steak and
1:00:44
my pool. Cool.
1:00:46
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