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Jon Gruden On Coaching Football Again + Competitive Relationship With Andy Reid · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we're gonna get through this episode. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have some fun, yes, I think. Guest John Gruden
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  Speaker 1: John Gruden, he joined the show last week. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: This episode, this interview is gonna be all time. A
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  Speaker 1: us out. We're gonna be talking some NFL football. Well mate,
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  Speaker 1: we won't preview a whole lot of the collegewall playoff
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  Speaker 1: because you can get that on the Locker Room that
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  Speaker 1: to be featured on the show Where do we Start?
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  Speaker 1: I think? Where do we start?
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to talk about what we're doing this weekend?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? That was a That was an awesome message to get. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Who'd you get that message from?
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  Speaker 1: The boys? Oh? Yeah, the tribe? Yeah, the try The
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  Speaker 1: tribe said hey, we want you to come out and go.
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  Speaker 1: Does say, hey we got you for the sideline passes?
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  Speaker 4: Wow? Four of them?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, four time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're popping in and we're popping out. That's what
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  Speaker 4: we gotta do. So what we and what myself and
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  Speaker 4: Will are alluding to, twelve team playoff, first year this
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  Speaker 4: has ever happened in the history. Now there's a team
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  Speaker 4: a little bit up north in Indiana, South Bend, Indiana
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  Speaker 4: that is Notre Dame Sherman hates them. They are playing Indiana,
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  Speaker 4: a team that has just picked and plugged guys from
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  Speaker 4: the transfer portal and have gone an absolute run in
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  Speaker 4: the Big ten. And we're gonna find out if they
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  Speaker 4: are for real or they frauds. Sherm our friend in
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  Speaker 4: the back there is already saying Notre Dame is fraud.
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  Speaker 4: So he's basically saying this is a game between a
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  Speaker 4: couple of frauds going to the playoffs. The boys will
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  Speaker 4: be in South Bend, Indiana watching the historic Notre Dame
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  Speaker 4: fighting Irish take on the Indiana Hoosiers on the sideline.
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  Speaker 4: Vogg will be coming out the following week.
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  Speaker 1: It is going to be.
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  Speaker 4: An electric time.
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  Speaker 1: Surem you think both of these teams are frauds.
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  Speaker 4: He's always said, he said since we've met him, that
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  Speaker 4: Notre Dame is a fraud school.
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  Speaker 1: Throughout the season, you'd almost assume, like, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think Indiana has benefited off of their schedule. I think
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  Speaker 5: they are more of a realistic competitor in the playoff
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  Speaker 5: than Notre Dame. Notre Dame has yet to win a
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  Speaker 5: BCS Bowl, New Year Six, Bawl, or CFP game. This is,
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  Speaker 5: without a doubt, this is their last chance. If you
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  Speaker 5: can't get a playoff win against Indiana, you're a fraud
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  Speaker 5: for life. You're a fraud forever. If it's crazy that
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  Speaker 5: they keep on getting the invite with their easy schedule.
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  Speaker 5: They be A and M cool. So did how many
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  Speaker 5: other teams? South Carolina beat A and N Texas Texas?
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  Speaker 4: They're in the playoff LSU. Here's a question for everybody
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  Speaker 4: on the bus is when if you see a brand
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  Speaker 4: like Indiana, you think you don't think to yourself football powerhouse.
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  Speaker 4: But they're in the twelve team playoff. They had a
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  Speaker 4: hell of a year this year. How many years would
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  Speaker 4: they have to have of making it to the playoff
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  Speaker 4: and being a dominant program in the Big Ten to
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  Speaker 4: be looked at as like a like a football brand
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  Speaker 4: worthy note, like a noteworthy type brand. How how many
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  Speaker 4: years do you think will?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree you were holding up too, weren't you. JP. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they make a what you're talking about if they make
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  Speaker 1: a run in the playoffs this year and then they
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  Speaker 1: come out hot next year, I mean, that's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a that's a respect you're saying, that is a football
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  Speaker 1: branded score in this college football playoff era. Yes, Now,
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  Speaker 1: as far as like the blue bloods of the world,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that takes that takes time.
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  Speaker 4: It takes time, It takes decades.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But in the current they make a run in
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  Speaker 1: this college will playoff and the next year again they
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  Speaker 1: start off out. What was their season record? Eleven and one?
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  Speaker 1: They're a team to be in a run?
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  Speaker 4: To you? Is they beating Notre Dame?
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  Speaker 1: They beating their dame?
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  Speaker 4: They still out against Who would they play next? Who
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  Speaker 4: knows who they play next? But they think, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: yeah yeah, Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not Georgia. Georgia is on the Uh that
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee State, Arizona State, Texas or uh, look at us,
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  Speaker 1: look at us, look at.
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  Speaker 4: Us football podcast. Here we are who they play? S
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  Speaker 4: m U and Penn State go against each other, and
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  Speaker 4: then the winner of that would play. If Indiana beaten
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  Speaker 4: U a Dame, they played boys, it's Georgia.
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  Speaker 5: So it's Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So we could probably say that they're gonna stall out.
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  Speaker 4: But does that count as a run for you? Like
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  Speaker 4: they beat Notre Dame boom? Is that a run?
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  Speaker 1: I think it depends on how they played Georgia. If
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  Speaker 1: they played they played Georgia tough. I mean it's look,
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  Speaker 1: you you want to go and see what's up with
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  Speaker 1: Indiana and signetty if you're recruit why not? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, they'll beat Notre Dame. They'll beat Notre Dame. With
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  Speaker 4: you more news, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, how'd you how'd Army do over the weekend? Remember
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  Speaker 1: when you were calling.
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  Speaker 4: For communist will? He added again, they go before they
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  Speaker 4: play Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: Get smacked.
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  Speaker 5: That Navy quarterback had a great game, a great game.
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  Speaker 1: That's the where you got to throw it all out
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  Speaker 1: the window. That's that's Army Navy.
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  Speaker 5: That's Army Navy.
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  Speaker 4: Why records go out the window? We saw it with
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  Speaker 4: All State Michigan.
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  Speaker 5: Record breaking performance by that Navy quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy. Yeah, I just thought it was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Let me gets their ass beat.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go over the little quick prediction, Just a
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  Speaker 4: quick fast prediction. Will hit me down with those lines
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  Speaker 4: right there, Oh State Tennessee, your first art.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of want to save it for the locker room.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of want to see it right at any research.
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  Speaker 1: I'm up in the air on on Ohio State Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: right now, Okay, I'll take tennis.
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  Speaker 6: Be told.
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  Speaker 1: I'm up in the air. I think Ohio State is
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  Speaker 1: in a great spot to just win the whole damn
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  Speaker 1: thing since they've lost to since they've had the season
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  Speaker 1: that they've had and losing the Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're broken. I think they're broken very well,
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  Speaker 4: be by three scores. Here's here's one boiler alert for
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  Speaker 4: the locker room. I'm not going to waiver on this,
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  Speaker 4: even if everything I look at tells me differently. I
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  Speaker 4: am going to pick Tennessee. I'm gonna take Tennessee money line.
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  Speaker 4: And I fully expect Tennessee to plant their flag in
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  Speaker 4: the middle of Columbus, Ohio before it becomes a felony.
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  Speaker 4: That's what that's That's what I say. They're gonna get
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  Speaker 4: one last one in.
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  Speaker 1: Just send some fans of Columbus Ohio while this game
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  Speaker 1: is going on, if they win, just get out in
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  Speaker 1: the stadium and plant the flag.
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  Speaker 4: Plant the flag immediately. And if you're a volunteer, if
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  Speaker 4: you're putting on the orange, you got to think to yourself,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna win this game. We got to plant that flag.
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  Speaker 1: Now, years past, we're talking about pro big ten, pro
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  Speaker 1: sec Yeah, you're in a spot for the right and
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  Speaker 1: I know and in the past we've called four Ohio
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  Speaker 1: state fans rooted for Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: We have called for that and at that time it
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  Speaker 4: made so much sense to me. At the time when
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  Speaker 4: we were talking about people rooting for Michigan, it made
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  Speaker 4: sense to me what transpired between Michigan Ohio state. The
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  Speaker 4: way Ohio state, the state of Ohio has really just folded,
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  Speaker 4: has literally crumbled in front of our eyes. A foundation
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  Speaker 4: of that state has become so little that a Congressman
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  Speaker 4: is trying to push forward a bill to where planting
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  Speaker 4: a flag on the fifty yard line should be a felony.
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  Speaker 4: You've lost me. You've not only lost me. I know
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  Speaker 4: there's people in Ohio that watch this show that are
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  Speaker 4: hard working, blue collar individuals that just get Patriock to
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  Speaker 4: Patrick and save up the money they have so that
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  Speaker 4: they can go wash the scarlet and gran on a Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel bad for those people that they're in
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  Speaker 4: the position they were. The state's broken because of that.
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee is going to win big.
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  Speaker 7: Even if I'm Tennessee money line all the way. But
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  Speaker 7: I love plus seven and a half for the walls.
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  Speaker 7: I think that's a really good bet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody I'm going to do better.
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  Speaker 7: DraftKings get on there. Plus seven and a half basically
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  Speaker 7: lock so.
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  Speaker 1: Illus DraftKings switches it up on you. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 1: had a nine leger hit. Oh, I thought hit last night.
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  Speaker 1: I hit eight legs out of the nine. All I
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  Speaker 1: needed left was Josh Jacobs to get sixty plus yards,
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  Speaker 1: which I think he might have gotten the first half.
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  Speaker 1: But I go back after I know Josh Jacobs had
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  Speaker 1: gotten sixty plus. I go back in the app and
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  Speaker 1: look at my settled bets. Apparently they went back on
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  Speaker 1: a stat correction and uh Khalil didn't get forty plus
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  Speaker 1: yards receiving he got thirty nine.
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  Speaker 4: It's a tough look for DraftKings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I get it because ultimately I'm betting on
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  Speaker 1: him that forty plus. If he didn't have forty plus
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  Speaker 1: and he had thirty nine, ultimately I lose the bet. However,
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  Speaker 1: what I'm curious about is if before this nine leger happens,
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  Speaker 1: this last leg in my cash it was one hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars bet to win, like twenty six hundred, very conservative
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  Speaker 1: nine leg parlay. Well, usually if you put nine legs together,
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  Speaker 1: you're thinking like plus ten thousand or something some for you,
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  Speaker 1: something nuts. But what I'm curious about is say I
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  Speaker 1: cash out on this hundred dollar bet when it was
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  Speaker 1: at like seventeen hundred is what the cash out was.
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  Speaker 1: If I cash out and then they go in and
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  Speaker 1: correct the stat, do they take that money back out
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  Speaker 1: of my account? That's what I'm curious about. It's wondering
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  Speaker 1: because I was pit. I was like tight, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck? And maybe want to go back and
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  Speaker 1: watch every play of the Bills Lions game just to
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  Speaker 1: see if he actually it fills thirty nine yards. I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming they're correct on that thirty nine yards, so ultimately
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  Speaker 1: I would win. It's just I saw myself winning and
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  Speaker 1: then I felt like I won, and then I go
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  Speaker 1: back in the app and that that that money's gone.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred dollars is gone, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think at the very least, And I'm not gonna tell
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  Speaker 4: DraftKings was due. That's a great institution. We love that
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  Speaker 4: they're part of the show. Maybe just give you a
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  Speaker 4: hundred dollars back one hundred and one dollars.
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  Speaker 1: But if you if you're in defense of DraftKings, like
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  Speaker 1: if he only got thirty nine yards for real, you
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  Speaker 1: lost the bat. They messed up on the stat correction.
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  Speaker 1: I did lose the bet. You're big, You're a big man. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's beautiful. I've been obviously thought about this a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because some people want to work through right now.
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  Speaker 1: With DraftKings, but then it's like, well, if you only
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  Speaker 1: got three nine yards, then ultimately I was I lost.
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  Speaker 4: And also drafting has been really good to us too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was curious, I am I has anybody
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  Speaker 1: went through that, anybody had like a parlay that they
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  Speaker 1: might cash out on before you're here.
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  Speaker 4: You're one of like six people in the world that
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  Speaker 4: have hit been close to a nine leg parlay. You're
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  Speaker 4: one of the people who have been close to a
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  Speaker 4: five leg parlay?
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  Speaker 1: Or was anybody want a singular bet that they was
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  Speaker 1: corrected on and then they go back? I would assume
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  Speaker 1: they would just take it out of your account, right.
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  Speaker 4: God, did you imagine get that email like you just
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  Speaker 4: hit big on something, you're telling all your boys about it.
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  Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, DraftKings pops up or any
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  Speaker 4: betting website pops up like hey, by the way, had
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  Speaker 4: a bit of a whoopsie daisies here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would have you know, the majority of
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  Speaker 1: people don't like take the money out of the account,
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  Speaker 1: Like the a't even bigger, go down another warm rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 1: Say I only had one hundred dollars, I've bet it
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  Speaker 1: on that nine like parlay, I cash out before the
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  Speaker 1: ninth leg, seventeen hundred dollars I deposited back to my
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  Speaker 1: account before they do the stat correction. Then what.
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  Speaker 4: Lawsuit?
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  Speaker 1: Then what you're in a game? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to court against DraftKings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just interesting when it was a wild it was
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  Speaker 1: a wild term.
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  Speaker 4: Did you brought up a big game though? Bill's Lions? Lions,
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  Speaker 4: they're so plagued by injuries. They lost a d tackle
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  Speaker 4: yesterday as well. Is it gonna hurt them because right
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  Speaker 4: now they're tied for the one seed.
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  Speaker 1: I got the.
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  Speaker 4: Lion's schedule right here, it's a favorable schedule. I mean
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  Speaker 4: they're at the Bucks or at the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 4: and then they have Minnesota shaky Eagles. Eagles have at Washington,
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  Speaker 4: then they have the Cowboys, and they have the Giants.
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  Speaker 4: You got to assume they're both gonna win two or
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  Speaker 4: three of those and then Lions win. Lions would end
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  Speaker 4: up winning the bye.
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  Speaker 1: I'm nervous form in the playoff, the way that they've
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: had these injuries on defense.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: I know if anybody needs the buye week, it's the Lions.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: They gotta have it because it's a team that's scratched
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: in Claude. They put the whole entire city on their back.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Like we talked about all the time, the Lady in
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: August essentially to us how much he loves the city
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: and loves the lines, Like there's fans like that in
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Detroit and you want to see him make a big run.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: But I was looking at the playoff thing, and it's
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: hard to think that the Eagles, who might be the
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: most miserable type for one seed of all time the
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: team but Eagles and Chiefs, because you look at the
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: AFC picture and it's like, it's gonna be the Chiefs again.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the Chiefs in Minnesota. Sneak. It's Minnesota sneaking,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: sneak in there. I mean eleven and two. They're a
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: good team.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good ball club, There's no doubt about it.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Philly's interesting. They are. It is crazy how they are
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: arguably the best team in the NFL and it just
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: seems like they have nothing but drama around them. Did
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: you see the Sirianne clip last night to where he's
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: going to the to the bench on the d line
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: of the Lions coach like basically saying, hey, not now,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: not now, And it's just I don't know, I don't
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I just don't know how I feel about how they
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: feel about Sirianni. Seems like he just has like no respectation. God,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I hate That's what it is. From a from a listen,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: third party. I'm on the outside looking in. There seems
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: to be something new every week. Last week it was
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: AJ Brown, but they they all learned from that. It's
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: like feed the beast, feed the man. He scores a touchdown,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the over and celebrate they got the ball.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Over, Sorry, it catches over one hundred yards a touchdown
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: and then there's the celebration. To me, it just made
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: me laugh.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're letting you know that they handled it. They're
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: letting you know that they handled it in house. That hey,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: give a J. Brown the football. You're gonna need to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: give a J. Brown the football if you're gonna win
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: this whole thing.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: True, I mean Saquon Barkley, but yeah.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: No doubt, you're right, you're right.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: But if you're if you're twelve and two, is a
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: ball club, like you should be the energy should be
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: higher than ever this point December, everyone's getting Christmas gifts.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: The quarterbacks auditioned out to everybody. Something big, something big,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: and right now it's just you're right, it doesn't feel
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: like it. And I don't know if we were just
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: over dissecting clips, you Cinciriani like the was it the.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: U the d lion coach, the line coach. He was like, hey, no,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: big Dom gets himself in back there, like it's a
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: security is always finding Yeah, it's just always finding a
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: moment to get in that camera angle.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: It's a while, it's it's a wild situation. Hopefully they
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: can just hold it together for another month and a half.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they have a they have a Jalen Carter
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: out there just yeah popping dudes mid play said that,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I'd be dead with that hit to the head. Wait,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: what is this Jaylen Carter when he's in the middle
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: of play, rushing the passer and he just fucking pops?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Who was it? No, it wasn't talking about Miles Garrett.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: You almost played they played the Steelers, Your Eagles played
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the Steelers.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Just popped up with Miles Garrett yeah, yeahs off lineman.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Miles Garrett is an edgdresher for the Cleveland Brown. Yes,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: she has nothing to do with this topic. That is right,
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: and I'm gonna walk in on the Yeah.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: You're right, you're a little off to that. You said it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I'll lock in with the Lucy one day, locking with
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: a Lucy.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Get diald in, diald in.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Miles Garrett did rip his helmet off in a like
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: really weird play.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got injured.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: But that's different than what you guys that were.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Talking about, right, JHN Carter's out the assaulting dudes mid
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: play on the field, which again that that violent team
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: of the Eagles. I low key love to see it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: Do they have the best vibe right now with everyone
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: doing the celebration after every good play, even wide receivers
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: getting up, Yeah, first down couper Dijon Cooper.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is to look it up.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I might be too occasion to understand that, but that
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: is kind of a nice thing.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope that team has that vibe and continuity going.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Because you think about the Eagles, you think Kelsey, Kelsey
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: retires huge leadership. Then on the other side of the ball.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: You have Brandon Graham who comes back for his fifteenth season.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: You think he's going to retire. He ends up tearing
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: a peck he he he sustains an injury. Maybe it
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: is a tricp or something. It was upper body injury.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: So now you have two major leaders in the Eagles
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: organizations that are now now you think these are gonna
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: fall apart. And now the Eagles have the best win
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: streak record of their entire franchise, ten wins in a row,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Like they should be thinking to themselves, boys, we can
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: go win it all. We should have vibes up here
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: and it might be that way.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: It might be we think that way. It's just funny
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: anytime you see a Syrian because I'm just thinking, man,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: this is the head coach, and it's like they're always
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: just patting him on the head, like hey, relax, relax.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: God do you imagine if got padded like that?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Oh? I mean that's the thing though, like the Rabel
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: ain't getting treated like again. I don't want to say
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: too much because Sirianna can be a great he could,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: he could be a great guy.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: The show could be absolutely love to have him on
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Someday.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, talk about it. Hey, are you respected? Yeah, that's
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: that's the question.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: But the NFC is the most interesting playoff picture there
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: is because with the AFC, it's like you just got
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: to think the Chiefs are gonna do it again.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, Bills are the team.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: If if the Bills would have just lost the regular
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: season game against the Chiefs, I would agree with you.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Bills are wop the Chiefs? I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: think so too. It's like if you watch the Chiefs Browns,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: even the moments that the Chiefs have the opportunity to
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: step on their throat and really just outscore, they haven't
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: scored over over thirty points the entire year, over thirty points.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: That's that correct. The Bills have scored thirty points in
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: like six straight and they beat the Chiefs. Yeah. Yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just the opportunity to step on a team like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the Browns throat. They fail to do. So they do
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: win twenty one to seven, But there's just something about
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Just don't think they do it this year.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Man, Just when's he gonna learn? Just win? Is he
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: gonna learn? I do love the Bills. I love Josh Allen.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I love the way that team's operating. The hype video
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: from Detroit, Detroit versus the Bills. You see ahih video
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: on Twitter. It was like a back and forth about
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: two cities.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: And the teams talking, yeah, campbelling, and it just it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: just fires you up.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's not a lot going up there. Buffalo
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: was there for a wedding back in twenty twenty fifteen.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Not a lot going.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: They got the bills, That's what they got.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: They got the bills with cheese, which is disgusting. But
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: in the uh, in the Eagles game, to t J Watt,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: do we know how bad that injury is with him?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: It looks like a foot right, you lose t J Watt,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it is over for the Steelers, you.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Do is he is so? He is so incredible.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: You know that entire game He's sitting next to fucking
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Max too. God, he was ready to kill somebody. But
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: NFC West, t J.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Watt's injury not long term, probably good for the playoffs
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: at least. Yeah, I mean he's he's He's a Watt dude.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: He'll be back. He'll have the dear Antler spray, He'll
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: have all the things he needs to get done. To
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: get back on whatever it takes, whatever it takes legally, legally,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: it never got popped for a drug test like me.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: They he will be back on the field.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: He'll be smart about it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll have that BPC whatever, the new version of
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: BPC one. Yeah, I think that they done. You're talking about.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: AFC West, the NFC West, NFC West once again wide open.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Seahawks had a big opportunity to beat the Packers and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: remain the top dog there and again the Cardinals win
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots. That like that division between the Rams,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the forty nine Ers, and the Seahawks is
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: wide open, and I have no clue who's gonna come
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: out on top. I really don't.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's sad, but I think the forty nine
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Ers are not the team that's gonna come out on
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: top of that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You say that, but you just never fucking know.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: You never know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I think is the Rams or the Seahawks. But again
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: with the Niners, you never know because that staff, they
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: they still got the guys every by something about they're
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: injured or this or that, like they could just for
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: whatever reason come alive.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, the Niners have to win the last three
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: games of the season just to make it in. And
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: they do the linebacker saying he's not gonna play. What's
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: the kid's name? I say, his kid like a kid,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: like he's like not three years younger than me, but
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: like that. That is insane to say you're not going
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: to play football game acainst your feelings are hurt.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that? No? I haven't.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: No, you've heard about guys going in the locker room
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: at halftime. They're twelve year vets. They say, hey, it's
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: not in I don't have it anymore. To me, it's like, hey,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: you just play the last thirty minutes and then retire
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: after the game. But to say you're just not going
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: to play a game because Greenlaw comes back from an
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: achilles injury, he's just staying in the Super Bowl, and they, hey,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: we gotta get this guy back on the field. We're
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: gonna get him reps. He's a starter, he's a Pro Bowl,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: All Pro type of guy. And then you take him
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: out and then you're like, hey, third quarter, guys are injured,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: we need you in. There is a team sport, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: now you had to because he decides that to play
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: you gotta you had a linebacker there hobbling around, right,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: and that's just crazy.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And it's just not understood. And who knows if there
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was drama going on before the game started with their
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: situation inside the linebacker room, but again and not being
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: understood before he even straps up like he's dressed to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: go play. It's like, yo, if you're you're the team
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: needs you. Yeah, And what sucks is Devandre. He's a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: good linebacker, like he's a good sturdy linebacker. And again
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the ego is the enemy man whatever he's feeling in
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: his situation, because look, it's like even if they're going
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: with green Law and you've had a heavy yer or
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you've had a good resume like playing like everybody knows
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: you can play good, you can play well. You know
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that you can play well. And so if they're going
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: with green Law, you're in a situation where, okay, yeah,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you might be the backup right now, but you never
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: know when your opportunity comes. Like again Greenlaw, green Law.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: He's just come back from an achilles, he needed to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: be tapped out and somebody in Devondre to come in
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to substitute for him, and he just decides not to play.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: It's like, no matter what, you have the opportunity there
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to Again, you're proving everybody that they're right for thinking that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You know, this could be toxic. I'm putting you as
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a backup, you know what I mean, versus coming in
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and playing and knowing that you are still a good
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: quality linebacker. They're just the future is with green Law
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's on a one year
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: deal to year deal, and again, Devandre, he could be
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: thinking I'm paid. He's made like forty million dollars. He
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't need it, and he's good with his decision. But
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: ultimately it's like, Bro, you're resumeing your reputation on being
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a good linebacker. It's now tarnished because you walk out
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: on your team. And I get, it's a business. There's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: all these angles going on, everybody thinking of their own
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: individual story and their own individual business going on. But
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you are in a team game.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: That team there's a main story, and there's a bunch
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: of micro stories and those micro stories or the individual
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: story that you're playing out yourself. When he is out
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: of the league ten years from now and he's sitting
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: at his house, I'm sure he's made all the money
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: in the world. He's going to sit back and think
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: about this moment, and if he thought about it without
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: any bias towards himself, he's going to know that he
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: made a mistake. Because it's just like you're saying, if
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: it's a team sport and they pull you out, you
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: have every right for your feelings to be hurt. You
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: have every right to be like, bro, I've been playing well,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I should be able to still play. But if you
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: are asked to go back in the game after somebody's
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: sustained injury and you say no, you're now being a
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: bad teammates the guy who's hurt because now he's got
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: a hobble around out there, you're hurting his money because
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: he's putting bad film out there, and you're taking away
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: opportunities from yourself. Like you just said, like when he
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: goes obviously, if he's that upset where he's not going
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: to play, Let's say he goes in place you know
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: there's an issue. The rest of the year. Season's almost over.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: When he's done, he can go to a new team,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: and there's no forward facing media coverage of a guy
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: who decided not to play a football game where other
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: thirty one other teams are gonna look at you and say, well,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: let's use not a team guy when the shit gets hard,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: when the shit gets tough, we're not gonna put him
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: in or he's not gonna be a guy we can
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: depend on. And that's that's the bummers, because he made
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: a quick decision on something that is going to hurt
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: the rest of his NFL career, doesn't matter how long
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: it is, and eventually will become a regret that he
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: has because it's not dude, the NFL, like we talk
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: about it, how zoomed in players can be. Now zoomed
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: in You and I were, and then you eventually get
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: out and you're realize how all the things that seem
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: so big really aren't that big. This is one of
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: those moments where it seems to get such a big
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: deal and you feel disrespected as a man. You just
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: go out there and play. It's going to fix itself.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: You play good ball, it fixes itself. That's the frustrating part.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I feel bad for him.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: It's like ultimately your feeding the bad wolf. Yeah, the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: story the good the bad wolf on your shoulders, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: he made a selfish decision, and again it's like we
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: can talk about football, but everybody, it's like everybody zoomed
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in on their own situation. No matter what, you can't
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: control certain things like outside of yourself, like you can't
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: help that the coaches want to go with green Law
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: over you. What you can control. What you can help
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: is your attitude and effort every day coming in to
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: know like, all right, I'm gonna be the backup here.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best fucking backup in the league
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: until my time comes again. Because no matter what, you've
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: put together a great resume and you're tarnishing it because
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you're so caught up in your own story that you're
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: pissed off because people outside of your controller making the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: decision that we're gonna go with green Law. Where it's like, again,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: if you just put your put your head down and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: be like you have to accept the reality of your
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: current situation and fucking be ready to go because your
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: number is gonna get called again in this league. Like
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: one thing we do know, the NFL one injury rate
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: green Law needed to tap, your opportunity would have still
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: been there to go back in and you just you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: never know. I hate to see it. I hate the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: bad teammate stuff, I hate the ego, I hate the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: selfish bullshit like I'm just not about it. I'm just
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: not about it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: To me, it's even simpler of it's your job, like
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: you you're paid to do this and if you're healthy,
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: you have to do it. In the real person world,
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: it's like you can't show up and they actually think
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: them out and then get it's like taking the if
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: he doesn't love football like some of the guys do,
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: taking the chaining Crowder outlook on it like, yeah, it's
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: like working at Walgreens. I show up, I do my job,
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: I leave, and then that's it. And it's like I
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: feel like that has gotten lost in a lot of
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: pro sports leaders.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Just looking from that angle too, it's like you're you're
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: getting paid to sit, You're getting paid to wear a
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: uniform that get to wear, Like that's that's crazy. You
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: just got to be able to zoom out.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 28:47
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  Speaker 1: The crown is yours? What else? Because I'm getting worked
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: up over that devondree?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, what do you do in that situation?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm playing? Like, if I think back on any of
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: my own experiences, here's a situation in twenty seventeen where
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I was pissed when we ended up getting and I've
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: told this story before, where we get Zach Brown, All
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl linebacker. He becomes a starter. Whether I think
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: it's political, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: he was the starter. So the entire year, I'm a backup.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: We had a third string guy, Martrell Spate, who's supposed
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to be the third string, and when Mason Foster or
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Zach Brown would be injured, we would go in the supplement.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And when Mason Foster went on IR for the rest
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of the year is like the middle of the year,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: back third of the year. I'm thinking to myself, I'm
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: going to be the Mike backer with the green dot
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and everything else. Well, I come to learn on the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: week of the game that we're playing against the Cowboys
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that I'm splitting time with Spate, who's supposed to be
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: my backup, right like in my own story, in my
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: own movie. And I'm pissed off because they're only giving
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: me base reps, which you know, twelve person or twenty
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: one personnel teams don't do it a whole lot in
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: this game unless you're playing the lines like Dallas did
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: it that week. There's going to be about fifteen snaps
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that I got to play bass. The majority of the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: snaps are in your Nickel package Nickel dime, and Spate
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: was going to be the guy. Spate was going to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: be the guy with either the green dot or Zach
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Brown was. I forget what it was.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I remember definitely not the guy who in.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: It, but I remember being so pissed off, like going
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to the linebacker. I go to talk to Coach Ko
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: about it, and I'm like fuming. I'm mad that I'm
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: finding out in a special teams meeting that like, hey, Will,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be all on all four. I think they're
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be wrong with Spate. And I'm thinking to myself, like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: why am I finding out right now in a special
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: teams meeting? Then I'm not going to be the guy
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: get the reps. And again I was tight and I
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: was bitter about it. And when I went home that
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: day because I went out to practice, Coach Grud's trying
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to talk to me about it, and everybody's trying to
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: talk to him about because I'm being a bitch in
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: this situation, I'm being very salty about it. And when
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I go home, I'm like thinking to myself, like, hey,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: if I don't prepare and go all in on these
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: base reps, however many reps I do get and I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: happen to play badly, all I'm going to be telling
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the staff and everybody else is that I'm proving them
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: right for going with Spate, Like Spate's going to be
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the guy, and then if I play poorly in my
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: base reps, like he'll take over the entire spot. But
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: if I don't go out and do everything I can
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to control my situation, which I was going to be
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: the starting backer in the base package, and if I
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: play well, then hopefully I can just build on it
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: from there. Played well in that Dallas game, and the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: next week we're playing the Vikings, get a phone call, Hey,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: you got the keys, you're rolling with the green dot,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: You're taking over for all of it.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: So that's an experience I think about when I think
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: about this Devondre Campbell is because again, it's like you
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: can piss him on all you want, but the moment
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you go out there, you quit on your team or
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you play poorly, you're just proving everybody else right that
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: they made the right that they made the right call
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to go with a guy who's itching the comeback, ready
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to come back, who's rady to sacrifice for the team
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and to make a run for the playoffs. When you're
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: kind of just fucking quitting on everybody, right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Shows how much you cared about the team. I had
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: a situation it was like twenty nineteen, no, twenty eighteen.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I think we're playing the Saints, and it was like
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: the second to last game of the year. Saints are
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: an NFC team, and then last game of the year
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I think was the Texans, and we were in this
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: situation where, for whatever reason, that game didn't matter from
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: like a record standpoint, it wasn't going to affect our
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: seating going into the playoffs, but the next game did,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: so I think Tannehill got like half the snaps, Derek
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: got like didn't play any of the snaps, and there's
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: a bunch of players that are getting rested for the
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: next week. And I found myself sitting there like I
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: played every single snap of that game, or I wasn't
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: even told that I was getting a break and I
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: was finding out before where it felt like a preseason
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: game where like guys are like, hey, Derek, you're sitting
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: this guy's doing this and he is doing that, And
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I felt like upset about it because I was like why, why,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: why didn't I get I decided this contract you get
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: into a mode of just like thinking selfishly about yourself,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: and then you see everybody else around you kind of
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: getting this like, you know, this stressful time of year
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: when you want to have a little bit of a
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: break too, if you're if you're afforded the opportunity, which
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: we were at that point, you want to have the break.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: And then you see a couple other guys. But at
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I went out and played
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: every snap, like you gotta go and do those things.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: And yeah, it took a series or two because I
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: found out like ninety minutes before the game. So I
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: have a little come to Jesus talking with myself in
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: the bathroom. Listen, no one's coming to save you. You
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: gotta situation, embrace the situation. And it's because the thing
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: it's easy to say on a microphone after everything's over
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: and be able to talk and be like this is
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: how everybody should operate and act. But we just show
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: two examples of like as a player, you easily find
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: yourself falling into feeding the bad wolf. We were like, well,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: people are getting X, Y and Z, why aren't I
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: getting that? You're like the comparison is a thief of
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: joy and so now it goes back to what JP
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: was just saying and shanding. Crowder said, you're just it's
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: your job, like if they're you're told to do something,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: you just go and do it. You're getting paid a
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: crazy amount of money to go play a sport. So
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I think the soapboxes. We were good on the soapbox. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: but it's just wild man.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: All right? Should we hit who's over there with them?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Do we have somebody over there with them so you
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: can finish out this intro? J Rod and Coop?
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's do Yeah, JP, want't you go over there?
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Since the ties, Let's hit these ads real quick.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I just.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Want to text me or what do you want to do?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: You want to just you do a little shoutout, no
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: free shout out. I can, I canploy a little bit
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: of our I I do have a shout out, no
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: free shot out.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I do as well.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: And it's the syringe for medicine for little kids. Rue
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: was sick over the weekend and it was a battle
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: getting medicine down. She never wanted to do it and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: ultimately got to the point to where I'm pissed off
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, I'm gonna hold you down if
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you don't take this medicine. I'm talking, I'm trying to
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: give her. We're trying to give her cookies. We're trying
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to talk about cookies and I we're trying to talk
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: about all these things to get her like, hey, just
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: do this. We'll throw a little bear, We'll throw on
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: all your favorite things. We need you to take medicine
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: because sweetheart, you have a fever and we have to
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: get this. Medicine is going down one way or another.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: You can do it willingly, Yeah.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Do the easy way, to do the hard ways.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And ultimately I'm I'm having hold her
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: arms and screaming. Yeah. And so I wrote that tweet.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like waterboarding my daughter and you
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: feel bad. So she's like and then you kind of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you kind of look over and you start kind of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: like you start chuckling in a little bit because he
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: just realizes.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: And it tastes good.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: That's a crazy thing. I'm like this, I'm like, heydad
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: is gonna tast something too, And I'm like, oh, these
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: tastes like sweet, yeah, this this tastes fine, like rude,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Just take the medicine.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: It's like getting a dog medicine. Dude. You shay like
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: ground by the mouth real quick, shove in the back
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: of their throat and like close their mouth and blow
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: on their nose.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: And this all my pushing too, urs. She's kind of
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: choking a little bit, like listen, all right, here, takes
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: some water, all right? Round two? Right, yeah, yeah, just
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit like a little.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Four six hours. We got to reboot this thing and
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: get it done.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: How about kids when they're flailing and it's kind of
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: like if you really thought about it, you're thinking yourself,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: you're doing everything you can to get out of this,
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: and it's not even hard for me.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, little kids are man, I know.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: And also, dude, my children when they throw temper tantrums,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: they always have a way of finding my testicles. They
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: always figure out how to fucking flail those feet, dude,
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: and they're just fucking hitting those things every time. My
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: four year olds just tripping about something the other day
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: and I like picked up like sweetie, relaxed, like no
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: legs start going crazy. She was like put a little
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: like body bag to things for a minute. I'm like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: how the fuck, how do you hit that.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: It is funny how upset they getting it internally like
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: pisses you off and away. You're like, all right, we're
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: about to find out. You're about to really find out
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: about your dad and his ship. And I'm thinking I
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: am a psycho for thinking this way, dude. Yeah, two
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: years old. I'm like, all right, all right, you're testing me.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: You want to go? You want to shout at the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: title right now?
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: A little early to make that call, but I guess
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I'll I'll let you have one. Yeah, yeah, dude, the
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: message shout out the syringes. So what is a good thing?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the ones where you can like, uh, you
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: can pull it up and just having a syringe so
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that way you're not like trying to get them to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: take it from a spoon or have him drink it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: You just get to be fauzzle, like bite their teeth
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and not try to not let you execute it whatsoever.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like holding her, holding her jaw and cheek, and
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, here we go, and you feel terrible.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: It hurts you way worse than it hurts them. Yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: After after all done, they kind of like relax, like
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: eating some cheerios, watching a show or something like that,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: and you walk up, You're like, hey, you want to
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: talk about what happened out there, but they've completely moved on,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: like and then I'm like.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: You did it, you did it. Yeah, yeah, you did it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Here's some water that is awesome. My shadow in her
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: free shout out goes to Christmas Magic. And my wife
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: started a tradition. It is such a pain in the
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: ass that she started this tradition, but she does these
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: things the first December all the way to Christmas. She
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: has this thing called Christmas Magic, and she bought this
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: little like house type of thing and it has these
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: little drawers that has twenty five little drawers.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: You kind of like that. And she tailor handwrites riddles
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: and ties a bow on them and when she puts
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: it in there, the light turns on of the little house,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: so the kids know that the Christmas Magic is here.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: And it can be a whole bunch of different things,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: like it was making ornaments one day, it was finding
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: a bunch of toys you don't use anymore, We're gonna
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: go donate it to kids that can't have toys. And uh,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: the one yesterday was just getting getting the pj's whole
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: fame in the car, we all got te's and just
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: go look at Christmas lights. Call a buddy who does lights.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, what's the best place in town? We
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: go to this dated community. We tell them we're so
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: and so we dive into there we go and just
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: it's so funny how kids attention spans work. Because they're
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: having such a great time in the moment where the
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: lights are being seen, but traveling the ten minutes to
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: go see the lights. It's on bored. I want this song?
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Can we have a Christmas story? Not a Christmas song?
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: And fighting about what Christmas song it is? And then
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden it's like ten fifteen seconds of
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: pure joy and bliss. Yeah, well, the those lights, what
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: about those? I'm thinking notes for myself. I'm thinking myself,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I gotta up my game. I'm seeing something. These houses
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: out here. I'm thinking, I got to figure out how
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: have a Grizzwold type of Christmas? The Grizzwolds.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the movie?
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I'm asking you?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: The Christmas vacation?
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: That is correct?
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Sir?
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Nice get pulled, good, pull, I get worried about you.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And it comes to the movie. I know I worried
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: about myself.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: But uh yeah, dude, Christmas magic. She literally handwrites these
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: riddles and just total all time. Mom move. These kids
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: are going to grow up and they love it. And
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: my daughter, my seven year old win.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: She is like.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Full full Santa mode right now. She's fully in to
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: the belief, all of it so much so to why
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I'm getting to the point I'm like, I felt so guilty.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of just lying her. You need me to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: make a call.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: No, you will never get that call again.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, don't win the bat or you will not get
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Christmas presents.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: That was when are you gonna be a good little girl? Now?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: No more pe in the bed? Or Santa will not come?
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Is he really not gonna come?
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: No?
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: No, no, he's he's Sata was telling a joke. I
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: was thinking of myself, a.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Bed, go to bed? Will? What the fuck was that?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Don't you want to stop missing the bed?
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: Dude?
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: That was so funny? How old is ru?
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: That was was that last year? Two years ago?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: That was like two years ago before?
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right before?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: We don't yeah we did, yeah, we didn't have one yet.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: God, I would love to hear Will do that call now,
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: because you know, Will would be like, hi, sweetie, how
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: are you like just understand You're like, hey, I'm not
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: in the middle hole for it. No, it was just
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: like fucking playing yay, don't do that ship that You're
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: not gonna get anything.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I've been pee in the bed, dude.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Did you how about the video I sent you a win.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a funny video, dude.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I gotta show you guys this video. So when done
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: this new thing where she like spies on me and
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: my wife? And I said something because I said something
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: the other day man, while I was walking and I
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: was like, fucking something, and she's like, Dad, why are
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: you always saying fucking and like perfect pronunciation exactly the
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: way I say it, And dude, my wife and I
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: I just trying not to laugh at this thing. I
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, no, we're talking about ducks. Mom was like, yeah,
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Daddy really loves ducks. And she's like she's like, uh,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: my tailoring's like use an example of how Daddy uses that.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: She goes it's like, let's say there's a girl over there,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: and it will be like that fucking girl or she
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: points to here, like one time there was like this
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: fucking tattoo.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: And then you hear you hear tailing going into let's
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: get more information. She's like, well, how how long you've
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: been hearing that? She's like like three years from dad.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Hey. The wild thing too, is is when she said
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: to Dad, I just pointed out tailing, hoping my point
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: might have enough energy to take her over to tailor
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: to like take over that. But yeah, dude, she didn't
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: say it though. Like we had the little moment.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: She said to y'all, I've been hearing this word. I've
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: been hearing this word for three years now.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I was how long you've been hearing that?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Like three years?
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Bro? And I just literally I was like video. I
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: was like videotaping it and I had to send it
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: to Will and He's just sending like a bunch of hogs.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking of myself. Am I bad?
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Dad? Not of those moments you're like, damn kids, hear everything, bro,
• 42:27
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  Speaker 1: Should we dive into John Gruden?
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  Speaker 4: Let's dive into John Gruden?
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  Speaker 1: Dude, dude, he was How awesome is he?
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: The story? The twisted question? You would have thought he
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: knew the twisted question before we even get into him
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: him just his voice to hearing on Monday Night football
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: for nine years and having him call a couple of
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: your games and like being excited that he's just a legend.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: And seeing that look in his eye. We just know
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: he's passionate about football. He just loves it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: It's between a stroke and like a one sixty bpm
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, it's beautiful. He's
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: always teetering like is it too much coffee? Is a
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: little something extra? What is it? But it's really just
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, Well let me tell you something.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: And the way he talks to good coach, what.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Do you say talking about throwing the ball out of
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the end zone on a hell Mary, Yeah, guys are
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: worried about you don't guys, what do you think it is?
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know, coach, that's what.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Like the head coach calls on you in a meeting
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: and you just for whatever, Yeah, your buttthole or no clue,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: no clue. You guys are gonna love this episode.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Look at that answer episode.
• 45:51
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• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Subscribe to the Boys. Here is coach John Gruden.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode US with was
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: very special guest with us. Today, we have a legend
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: of Clay High School, a legend of Dayton Dayton College quarterback.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: We have a super Bowl winning coach, mister John Jrudin. Hey, brother,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: we are excited to have you on.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Obviously we just had you in the locker room. That
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: show has already come out. But your passion, your love
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: for football, and you never know some of these personalities
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: you see. I remember watching you with like the draft experience,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: and watching you get up with players and having quarterbacks
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: talk about it, and you got that look in your
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: eyes like you do right now having them draw things up.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: But you truly, you truly love, eat, and breathe football.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Where did that passion start?
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: That's why I love being here with you guys. My
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: dad was a coach. My dad coached at Indiana, he
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: coached at Notre Dane, he coached with the Buccaneers. So
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: I kind of grew up going to the locker rooms
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: idolizing players, wanting to be a coach. I played at Dayton,
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: I wasn't very good. My high school is no longer around.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: They closed the door, so I don't have any I
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: don't have any tapes to show you or approve what
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: kind of player I was. But you know, when you
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: grow up knowing what you want to do at a
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: young age and then you have an opportunity to get
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: your foot in the door. It's just just been that
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: way from the beginning.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: How much of a learning curve was it? Like getting
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: around your old man and when you were getting integrated
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: into coaching, just understanding the work that goes into coaching football,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: the sacrifice that goes into coaching football. Because it's like
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you said, there as players and I've always had aspirations
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: of coaching, but coordinators, like coaches mine, would always say, hey,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: if you find something else to do, you might want
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to look into that, because all the work you put
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: in to be a player It's like, you know, it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: tenfold when you're coaching, because you're there from start to finish,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: all around the clock.
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, I was lucky because my dad knew people,
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: and I was able to get started, probably ahead of
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: some other guys would And I got started at Tennessee
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: the Volunteers. They were in a sugar bowl. We beat
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: Venni Testaverdi. So I got around Walt Harris, a great
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: offensive coach. And I was lucky, man, because when you're
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: around people that know the game in side and out,
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: that can set the tone and put you on a
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: routine and you try to accumulate knowledge every day and
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: challenge you. That's just the environment I've always been in
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: and one I've tried to create. So uh, anyways, it
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: goes by fast. Look look at me now, I'm busting
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: with the boys.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Man, hit the big time. All your accomplishments has got
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: to be top five when you UH coach for your
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: graduate assistant right for the Tennessee Volunteers. Do you hold
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: any love for the Volunteers?
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Are you a fan of the balls? All the places
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: you coached at, do you like still hold it near?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: God, I love Tennessee. I met my wife there. My
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: wife cheered at Tennessee.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I was a jeerleader.
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: My wife was dating Johnny Major's son, Johnny Major's legendary
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: coach at Tennessee. She's dating coach major son, and they
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: broke up and I went in for the kill man.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: But uh, I absolutely loved Knoxville, Tennessee. Love the volunteers.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: We have property up in the Smoky Mountains Severeville, near Dollywood,
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: and we go back a lot. We just love it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: Who were in the playoffs too?
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Who are your college teams in Tennessee and Indiana? Are
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: those of the well?
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: My dad coach at Indiana Notre Dame. I coached at Tennessee,
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: University of Pacific. Who dropped football now Southeast Missouri State,
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: University of Pittsburgh.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: You were at Simo Yeah one year?
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: No shit, Cape Girardo Man, Yeah, bro.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I get a little nervous. I saw when I saw
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Dayton on the Wikipedia playing college football there, I was
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: sticking them. I wonder if he has any love for
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Ohio State. But it seems like you just stay in
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: the Indiana category.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Home.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much. I mean I loved my experience growing
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: up in Ohio. My dad coached at Dayton, made a
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: lot of connections there. What a staff he was on
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: at Dayton. John McVay, who became the forty nine ers
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: GM was the head coach. But most of my ties
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: or places i've coached, those are the things I can
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: remember the most.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your What do you think about this
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: barstool barstool media world?
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, man, it's totally different. You know, I never had
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: a Twitter page, I never had anything. I don't know
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: anything about social media. I used to give everybody a
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: hard time about doing it. Now I'm taking selfies, you know,
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: with George Brett in the airport. I mean, it's it's
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: really awkward and different.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: It's a wild game. Even even when we finish the
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: locker room, you're like, hey, put your helmet on, let
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: me yell at you.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get cameras.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: It seems like you're diving in the game quickly.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: I'm trying. And I got some great guys, as you know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: the guys that run the place, Dave Portnoy. These guys
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: are interesting, man, They're really creative. To put it mildly,
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: I got to go on the golfing thing with Frankie
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: and Trent. We had some people come down of my
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: office last weekend and I'm I'm I'm anxious to see
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: what is going to unfold, But I just want to
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: do good. I want to be part of the team
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: and try to find my role.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: You if you're not producing, so I said, I said.
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: Give me, get me out of here. I got my
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: I got a couple of things I'm getting better at.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: And this is all part of the seasoning process. Hanging
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: around with you two guys. You know, I'll steal some
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: ideas from you. This is a hell of a setup, man.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: It's it's about, you know, on the truth, having some fun,
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: making some people laugh and making them think outside the
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: box a little bit.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like getting to have this, like you know,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: we were talking about it, either on the locker room
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: or outside of it. What you miss the most is
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: the camaraderie. You missed the locker room. Yeah, Unfortunately, we
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: get to have people on like yourself, players that are
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: currently playing ex players to where you still kind of
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: get that feeling that ball busting and having fun having
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: some laughs because you do. You just you missed the
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: locker room so much.
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: When it's over, Oh, it's it's what you what you
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: can't duplicate, but you guys are doing a pretty good
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: job of it, you know, just giving guys shit. That's
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: what I tried to do every day. I tried to
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: stir the pot.
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: Man.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: I'd come in there one day and try to make
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: you guys laugh, and I'd go to any extreme measure
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: I had to go to make you laugh too, because
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: sometimes you guys are grouchy bastards every day, no doubt,
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: you know they need Yeah, you gotta make them laugh.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: And then the next day I might try to fire
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: you up, Hey, lu let's you know, you know, and
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: then the next day you might really try to piss
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: them off, like I might really try to piss Will compident.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: So you got seven shapes of smoke. When you're coming
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: in to.
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: Get well, you just don't want to just install twenty
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: two Hank and here's you know, here's eighteen Bob. After
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: a while, you know, you get a little bit bored.
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: You got to try to make it fun and you
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: try to stimulate your guys, and I think that's when
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: they play their best.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Who's the best pot starring coach you've been around?
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: Ray Rhodes. Ray Rhodes was the head coach of the
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: Eagles when I was the offensive coordinator. He was a
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: secondary coach of the forty nine ers when it all
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: started for me. He had Ronnie Lott. He had a
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: great group back there. He was a combination of Richard Pryor.
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: He was a comedian and he was a great technician,
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: a great technical football guy. But he would create analogies.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: He would speak in analogies that were awesome, and he
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: used those analogies in his teaching methods. Ray Rhodes was phenomenal.
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: One of the great coaches I've ever been around.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: What about motivator?
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, motivation? Motivation. Uh, I'd be a hard one. I'd
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: have to think about that for a minute. But I've
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: been around some good ones. About you, who's the best
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: motivator you've been around?
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: But I mean, Bo Polini was a hell of a motivator,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I bet dude. Honestly, Like I've told Taylor this, I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: don't know if I've said it on the bus, but
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: you are a hell of a motivator. I mean when
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: you're what was that When I came out there, it
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: was like my seventh year and you're a veteran, You're
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: coming out midyear, and usually like when you're a VET
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: and you've you've had some years in the league, you've
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: heard everybody speak, you've heard all the speeches and everything else.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: But I remember you just had us after a practice
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: one day and it was getting my piss hot, and
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: it was like one of those things. You're like, Yo,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: this is the fucking you hear all this stuff about
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: John Gruden and everything else. Now I get to play
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: for him, and you walk away from just that post
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: meeting motivational Talkie gave, and it is It's one of
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: those things because then coaches try to do it and
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: it's like you understand what they're trying to do, but
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: it's not like it's not getting you fired up or
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: it's not making you think. You're like, oh, I wonder
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: what I wonder what Taylor thought about this speech? You
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: kind of go and laugh about it. But you were
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: somebody that always felt like you had the right words,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the right tone, the right time, And so I would say,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I would say yourself, coach Vrabel, he can get going. Uh.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Your brother was more of a matter of fact, yeah,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: but expressing to you like the keys to the game.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: But in a way they were like fuck af we just.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Do these three four things we're going to And the
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: night before a game, when he'd start running a highlight table,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: like you tell us they're talking about us this way,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: they're talking about us that way. Tell me we can't
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: block on the edge, Tell me we can't make plays
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: in space, tell me we're not You know all those
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: different things they get that would get you fired up.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Your brother, he was more of a he was more
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: of a comedian.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: He would take some like rap lyrics or song lyrics
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: and bring it out and we'd like have fun. Jay's awesome.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: You know a lot of times, let's the assistant coaches.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: I remember when I was in Tampa. We all know
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin now is the head coach. He's a great motivator.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: You should hear him in the room with his secondary guys.
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: When I was coaching for the Bucks. He was a
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: great motive. But Rond Barber, John Lynch, he had those
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: guys frothing at the mouth. Rod Marinelli, our d line coach, Yeah,
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: was phenomenal. Some of my really you know, bad words
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: I learned I learned from Marinelli. Al Davis was a
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: great motivator and he used any method to get you
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: fired up.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Massacia Casatia is good.
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: I think you try to hire guys that can handle
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: their players. I hate assistant coaches that come into your Hey,
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: we Taylor Duwan was three minutes late. Hey, Will Compton
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: wasn't paying attention in the meeting room. We get them
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: to pay attention. You know, that's your job, you know
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: what I mean. I like coaches that can run the
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: show and really get these guys charged up in their
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: in their own individual worlds.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when it came to coaching and you're talking about
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: like one day you would try to make guys laugh,
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: then motivate, then piss them off. What like, how did
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: you learn that I need to go about these different
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: ways to motivate different players? Like, was that something you
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: knew right away as a coach by watching your dad
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: or is that something you gained over time?
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: Well, pretty much you're not when you're the head coach.
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: You're not just motivating the left tackle going into a
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: team meeting to motivate the quarterback or the wide receiver.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: You're trying to get everybody on a common thread. Everybody's
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: got to see this together. And you know, I just
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: think the more camaraderie you can generate the better chance
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: you have. It's a long season, and I think it's
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: it's important to laugh at each other, you know, get
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: guys up there, have them talk for a minute or
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: two balls, bust each other's balls, including your own. And
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: that worked for me for a while, but I think
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: I pissed some people off, and unfortunately that's the way
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: it goes.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: When now talk about talk about you pivoting throughout your
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: career because the game is a lot different now you're
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: busting our balls. You guys are much more sensitive these days.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: We had we had Mike Alstott on the bus and
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: he's talking about how soft the league is now, Like,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: how have you had to kind of adapt your philosophies
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: over time?
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I did Monday night football for nine
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: years and during those nine years I got away from
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: the players associate. How practices have changed. You know, you
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: can't hit the quarterback below the leg. A lot of
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: different rules have come in. Players safety big issue, but
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: the big thing is coming back and coaching. You have
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: to adapt to the rules, but you still have to
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: push the envelope. You got to create repetitions. Repetitions the
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: mother are learning, whether it be walkedthroughs, whatever it is.
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: We have to develop players, and you guys will admit
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: these college kids coming out, they are not as far
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: along as people think they are. A lot of these
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: guys are transferring year to year. They're only one year starters.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: They're really raw and you need time to spend with them.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: But you got to push the envelope. You got to
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: adapt to the circumstances that are laid out for you ahead.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: Well know, we were talking about the transfer and the
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: NI on the last episode of Busting with the Boys,
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: how it's it's got to be so difficult as a
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: college coach to go up to a player and be like,
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: these are the things you need to work on, and
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: be a little bit harder on them, a little more
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: tough love on them, because it was like, I'm just
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: going to go some get paid the same amount. Do
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: you think there's going to be like a drop in
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: the talent level in the NFL the next five to
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: seven years with guys not kind of, because you have
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: to be forging fire a little bit. When it comes
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: to college. You have to go through the ship, the
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: six am winter conditioning type of situations and a lot
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: of guys are when it gets too difficult now, they'll
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: just leave. And if they're not pressed to move forward
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: and grow, they're gonna be a less than player. Do
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: you think there's gonna be a you'll see toughness, yeah,
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: raw without mental tough Well, well we.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: Just said the thing I think is the key ingredient
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: in being a pro football player. It's mental toughness. I
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: don't care where you go, what round, or who you
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: play for. You're gonna get your ass knocked off in
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: the NFL and the media is gonna jump on you.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: That's just the reality of it. And if you don't
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: have mental toughness to lean on, you're out. You're gonna
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: be gone early. But I worry about the state of
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: college football what we're doing. I mean, these guys are
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: pulling out of bowl games. Guys are in the nil
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: portal before the season is over. How would you look
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: at your teammate if you had a left guard playing
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: next to ye at Michigan, it's entering the portal before
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: you play in a bowl game. That would probably piss
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: you off.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: It's hortally the playoff, like the portal's open. Now it's
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: like these teams are going to try and make a
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: push to win a national title, and you got guys
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: kind of flirting with the next girl. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: It's got to be just because when Will and I
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: were in college, it was you pick a school, You're
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: at that school for four years. If you want to transfer,
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: you to sit out for a year and lose a
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: year of eligibility. So there's a lot of risk if
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: you want to make it that dramatic of a change.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: So you either, you know, buy in or get the
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: fuck out. And I could not imagine sitting next to
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: a left guard or a tight end and blocking with
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: them while they're like going gonna go to some other school,
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: whether it's in the SEC or another school in the
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: Big Ten. That's got to be difficult for players to
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: deal with.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: The worst one would be just knowing a guy's bitching
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: about the situation and you're trying to go, like win
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: a football game.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, brother, we're trying to win this game.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: That's all matters. And Will and I are a big
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: drink the kool aid guys like we when we were
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: playing our sport on our team, it was like living
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: and breathing and dying for that team.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: I really didn't want our scouts to bring in a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: lot of players that were transferred players, guys that quit
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: at Michigan and went to Notre Dame and went from
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: the I wanted guys that were finishers, that started and
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: finished the job, signed up and executed their mission. Now
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: you're gonna have to adapt to that philosophy. You're gonna
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: have to take some guys that are bouncing around. But
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: I've met with some of these kids that have entered
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: the portal, and a lot of it has to do
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: with their situation. They don't have money, they don't have
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: two parents, they weren't raised with everything given to them,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: they don't have any money, and all of a sudden,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: you get somebody offer you seven hundred thousand or six
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars. You can't blame these guys for chasing
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: their dream and improving our family situation.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: And if you never had money before, it's hard to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: look at seven hundred thousand dollars and say no, I'm
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: gonna hold out and wait. Yeah, there's another train of
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: thought too. It's like, if you've been broke your whole life,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: what's being broke a couple more years and being a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: part of something special. Yeah, that's kind of the selling point.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: If you're a Kenny Dillingham from ASU, it's like, listen,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: we can't offer you all the money in the world,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: but there's something special going on here and eventually you're
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: gonna make that money. It's just hard, man.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just need to find a way to not
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: make it free agency all year round.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because the coach all recruit.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: You're already recruit your ass off to get the next
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: guys in, but you got to recruit your ass off
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: for the guys that are there, and then these portal
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: situations and opportunities open up, like while you're in the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: middle of a season. So I just feel like something,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: there's got to be a solution that's gonna come.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: Well, you guys come from the big time. You guys
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: come from Nebraska, Michigan.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I played at Dayton.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: You know I got friends at coach in the Mid
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: American Conference. This picture yourself at Toledo or Western Michigan
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: or Kent State. You're coaching your ass off. You find
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: these players that aren't five star players, that are maybe
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: one star players. You feed them, you develop them, and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: as they become all conference players in the Mid American League,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: sophomores or juniors. Here comes Nebraska, here comes Michigan. You
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: take all my players, man, and you pay them, and
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: what do I get? You know what I get? I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: get nothing? Thissses me off man. So the smaller schools
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: are the ones that are getting punched in the mouth.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: And you know that's just part of the program right now.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: The friends and coaches that you know and have are
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: they is like some of their philosophy just recruiting guys
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: about hey, you can be this could be a stepping zone.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I'll get you to the next league.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean recruiting now is it's a totally different deal.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: You got some guy walking in your office that's managing Hey,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: I got Taylor Luwe and Will Compton. This guy's represent
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: you to guys and he's telling me, Hey, if you
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: want Luwan and Compton, you got to pay him this
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: and pay him that. And if you pay me, I'll
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: make sure you get these two guys. So now you're
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: dealing out. You're dealing with a lot of variables that
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: has nothing to do with football, and it's a problem.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: It's a problem. That's a good point.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Did you tweet something yesterday about agency king twenty percent?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, there's there are agencies and I mean you
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: were with CAA, Like, there's agencies where you get like
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, it's bigger contracts, bigger money to where
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: you're paying them one to three percent. And then if
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you have like a marketing rep, there's there's like a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: ten to twenty percent cut that they take if they
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: were to get your twist the tea or body armor,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean to be like in a commercial.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: So I understand that there are quality agencies that command
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: ten to twenty percent in total off of you know,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: two three hundred thousand dollars. I understand that the problem
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I have is knowing that you have and you learned
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: about in college, that these runners that take place, like
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: you could be represented by coach Gruden. He's your agent,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: he's your agency. I could be somebody that goes to Tennessee,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Nebraska and Michigan just doing my own thing and getting
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: your market understanding. Hey, if Taylor hit the portal, what
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: would he be worth? Four hundred thousand, five hundred thousand,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars? And then I DM and message
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: you and start to poach and do all these things,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: and I know nothing about your situation, your experience anything.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make a quick buck off you
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: because I know I can get twenty percent if I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: start dangling these carrots in front of you, Like, hey,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I know you're with him making three hundred thousand, but
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I'm feeling the temperature there.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: You can make up to seven hundred thousand if you
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: come with me. And so there's just so many muddy waters.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Nobody's out there, you know, telling all the truth of
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: it all because everybody it's just an open market. The
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: business has got to figure itself out. College football has
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: got to step in and put some parameters somewhere, and guys, unfortunately,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: are gonna have to kids are gonna have to, unfortunately
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: learn the hard way at times. It's gonna have to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: sort of self out. But that's like the issue I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: have is knowing that I get it. It's a business.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: It's an open market. We live in a free market.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: We want players to get paid. College Foe makes millions
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: and billions of dollars off this stuff. I understand all that,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: but we know at the same time too, Like we
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: were those players. We were those guys in college and
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: you understand how important development is, how important adversity is,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: how important being forged in the fire is. And maybe
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: you are in a situation where, hey, you should transfer.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that just get the wrong
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: information and bad information and they're getting bad mentoring, or
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: they're getting no mentoring at all. They're just chasing money
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: when it's like, you know you. I just hate to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: see that happen with kids. I like to see that
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: happen with college football because it hurts the product that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: ultimately leads into the NFL to where that's you know,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: that becomes a bad product because the fundamentals and technique
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: is off. It's way worse just because of the quality.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: These kids aren't going and choosing football because they want
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: to be great football players. They want to, they think
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: they want to, but then they get be dazzled by
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: money and everything else. And again I understand it. I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: just hate this wild West that we're living in because
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: it's hard to figure out what this nil world is
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: because nobody really talks about it. Whole lot. There's a
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: lot of shit that goes.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: On that was really fucking well. I mean that was
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: well said right there.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I mean think about it, like, you know, coach Norvale,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: he's with Colorado State, he was kind of talking on it.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: But coaches can't speak on it too much because you
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: don't know all the legality is going on. You're in
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: with the nil collective, like they have their own stories
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and drama. Coaches understand what their situation is. Players understand
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: what their situation. It's just it's fucking bizarre right now.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: And as a coach, as a college coach, your whole
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: thing with these young players is eighteen to twenty two
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: year olds is all about limiting distractions. And when we
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: were you know, oh now I was nine to thirteen,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: you were eight to twelve. Yeah, when you're there in college,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: then it's it's a game of like limiting distractions with alcohol,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: with assholes and women like that. Those are the those
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: are the big three pillars. Now you're throwing money in
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: the whole thing too, because as a as a player,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: you're looking at that pot of gold at the end
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: of the of the dark tunnel. But now there's little
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: flickers of lights with a little bag here, a little
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: back there that can get you on the wrong path,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: and then you don't get fours in the fire, you
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: lose a technique and you become a lesser football player.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: That hurts you in the end that when you're twenty
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: five years old, a couple years in the league, that
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: second contract might not be as good, which would be
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: way more money than you would have ever made in college.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: So it's a it's a whole thing.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I just I just hate the money hungry.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: It makes it interesting, really interesting. Man is sitting here
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: looking at you two guys on this bus. Man, I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: mean I've known you guys as players, and I've seen
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: you guys on this bus. And to think that you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: guys have turned this into I mean an unbelievable deal.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, you guys are killing it.
• 1:06:53
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  Speaker 6: I just I hate to interrupt you guys and change subjects,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: but this nil kind of rubbs me wrong. But you know,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: success on the field is one thing, but transition in Like,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: I just for all the young guys out there, can
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: you just tell me how you transition into this thing
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: right here and have created and reinvented yourselves here. This
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: is pretty freaking cool man.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to take the first part of that, yea,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: because it's a story We've told a lot on the bus.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: But it is just cool.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: But a lot of players, you know, they get out
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: of football, they kind of search for their next game,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: their next thing. How did you guys do this?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I speaking for myself. I feel like I was
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: in I was in year six with the Tennessee Titans,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: and you know, Coach, like when I got to play
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: for you, like I cut my teeth into the league
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: with your brother at Washington. And in my situation, if
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a backup and a special teams guy, I don't
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: want anybody to get hurt. But if I'm gonna get
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: my opportunity. You know, you're gonna need the guy to
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: go down in front of you and then hey, I
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: get to show them what I'm about. I can show
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: them that I can rock the green dot, do all
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: those things. And so when I didn't get that opportunity
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: in my sixth year, I'm kind of sitting there with myself.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: You know, there's things I'm interested in. I know I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: want to coach, I have interest in, like the real estate.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: You're trying to you're trying to figure out where your
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: curiosities go because at some point the game is going
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: to end. It's going to end sooner than you think.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: It's probably not gonna end on your terms like most guys.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: And so, just knowing that I love podcasting, I end
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: up asking Taylor if he wanted to start a podcast
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: with me. He was all in, and I'm kind of
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like, people do make money in this
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: podcasting world. If we could, you know, if we could
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: you know, have the uh, if we're able to spin
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: it and transition and use this as a transitional point,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: like how great would that be? And so for me,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: it was like, all right, I'm going to start a
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: podcast I could play myself out of the league because
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: nobody in the NFL world's really doing it. McAfee retired
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: to go into barstool Media and then the media in general.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: But nobody's really doing it. And I know how coaches
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: and I know how front office and people can feel
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: about players being on a public platform, especially when it's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: like I'm not. I wasn't in a situation where I'm
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: getting a big second contract like I was going into
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: that offseason knowing I was going to be a ninety
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: man guy having to make a fifty three roster and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: who wants any of that luggage or extra drama. So
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, if I play myself out of the league,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: but it's you know, if we're able to transition and
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: create something like you know, then that's just the risk
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: that I'll take. Fortunately, I got to continue doing it
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: and being on the podcast, doing the podcast, being on
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: the bus, going to play for you, playing with the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Tites again, and doing it for a few more years.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: But ultimately for me, it was like, hey, this game
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: is going to end at some point. I need to
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: understand where my interests are, where my curiosity lies, and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: try to do whatever I can and to have the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: autonomy to do it myself before I have to go, like,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: work for the man, And who knows if I'm working
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: for the man, if it's going to be in the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: right situation. When you're done playing football, we get catered
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: to our entire lives. The structures there. You get a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: motivational speech, You understand how tough it is, you want
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: to be forging the fire. You have all those skills
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: to transition. However, you don't get the highs of playing
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: at that elite level of the NFL, right going out
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: there on prime time, winning with the band of brothers.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: And when that gets pulled away, a lot of guys
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: struggle because it's like, where's our next roller coaster? Where's
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: our next high We played on such a high level.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: The logo, even though they tell you, Coach Gruden, you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: know you guys got to sacrifice for this logo. Everything
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: you guys pour into this, we're doing it for a team, team, team, team.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: The minute the team is you're not on the team anymore.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: That logo isn't calling you back to make sure you
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: get your next job. So it's all about how can
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: we control our situation? And I feel like We've been
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: able to create Bustle with the boys, and it's been
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: incredible because the big thing you miss when you leave
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: is the locker room, right, we've gotten to create something
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: off that. But that's like, that was like my train
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: of thought going into busting with you.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's interesting because you kind of see,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: like Will and I's pass how different they were entering
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: the NFL. Because when I got a scholarship offer in Scottsdale,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: Arizona for the first time, it's from Utah State. Right
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: then and there, I thought to myself, I'm going to
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: the NFL. Like that is now my my path of
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: life has now is very clear. And as a football
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: player who lives breeze and eats and loves the game
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: of football, you truly think the most audiable death is
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: probably to die in between the hashes, Like that is
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: kind of the way you want to go. You like,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: you look in the mirror before a game with tears
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: in your eyes and you think, if today is the day.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: I go like, it's a good fucking day and it's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: time to go out there. So for me, I was
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: always a guy that's like I was never focused on
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: what's next. I was always focused on right now, and
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: it was you know, playing well and getting to the NFL.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: So I go to Michigan, I become a first round pick,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: and when Will Compton comes to the Tennessee Titans, I
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: just signed the biggest deal in NFL history for an
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman. To me, everything is going according to plan
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: where I'm not seeing the inevitable end of what every
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: player has to go through. Even if you're Tom Brady
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: who can beat Father Time like you were always going
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: to the game is always gonna walk away from you
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: before you walk away from it. So when Will approaches
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: me about doing a podcast, I'm thinking to myself, dude,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: like I guess, and I just in my head I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: canpartmentalize it as like, well, people do real estate, people
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: do stocks, like this is the same thing. It's just
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: an investment. I just happened to be in the public
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: eye and you mentioned it in the locker room. I'm
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: not like your stereotypical office lineman, a scene not heard
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: type of guy. I'm very much seen and very much heard.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: So like it was an opportunity for me to kind
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: of like allow this personality to come out. And it
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: was like you know. To me, I thought like, I
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: don't know what this is gonna be. This might be
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: just a fun little game.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Guys take a couple of video games in there at home.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: It's like you're coming in.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just coming, come and rip in a podcast. And
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: it turned into this and it couldn't have happened at
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: a better time. I remember I bought so the house
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: I live in now. I bought the land and I
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: was building and Will and I walking around the property
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: and it was right, it was like right before the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: season or right after the season, and it Will was like,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: this is my last year. I don't want to do
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: it again. I played that game with him for three
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: more years. Every year it was this is my last year.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do it again. And then it
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: was like, you know, maybe they could sneak in and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: get rid of camp. And then he started playing the game,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: and so like while we're both still playing in the NFL,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: Bustin's kind of just like chugging along and grow getting
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: more and more followers and people are more.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: We go into our stool.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: We got a barstool early and often, which you're gonna
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: come to find out, is like the greatest teacher in
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: this world. It's it's that gives you the ability to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: be yourself unapologetically be yourself the good and the bad,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: and be everyone be like, that's all right, You're a
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: part of barstool. You can do whatever you want here.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: And so it is. It's interesting how it all turned out,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: and you just kind of look back and you're like,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: it's kind of fucking crazy. Like in my mind, I'm
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: like I kind of just luked into this. I kind
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: of just like fell into meeting Will, and Will wanted
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: to do this and he didn't. He wanted the safety
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: blanket of doing with somebody else.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: And I have read safety chemistry too.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's beautiful.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Like when you signed the big deal, there's a part
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: in my brain I'm like, well, the team won't be
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: able to touch him because he's the highest paid player
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: on their team. Hey, if I play myself out, I'm
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: just not going to get a phone call again. Yeah,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: it's like, fuck it.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: Let's just we knew we had three years of guarantee.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: To do what we want to.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: End up working out.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ended up working out for it, ends up calling
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: and I go out to I go out to Oakland, Yeah,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: but you've.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: Bale a lot of transition too when you were going
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: from the NFL into commentating, Like a lot of coaches
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: try to do that. A lot of coaches try to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: dip their toe into the media space. But you came
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: in and you murdered it. The ability to know what
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: every player's callers they went to, and their mascot and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: you just talk about guys if you've known them for
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: twenty years. How did how was that transition for you
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: from going from coaching to media.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: Well, I was a communications major in college. I always
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: wanted to do the news. I always wanted to be
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: a sportscaster. Really, if I wasn't going to coach. Oh,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: excuse me if you want to answer that.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: To dude, you gotta do yet.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: You kind of want to take that, don't you.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry I didn't turn it off. But Mike
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: Tariko was the key for me. I mean, I got
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 6: I got fired. I was really humbled. I was really down,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: and the NFL network called me and asked me to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: come to the Combine and do some segments covering the combine.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: Steve mary Yucci's a friend of mine, says, come on,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: So I got right up to the combine, I said,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: I can't do it. I was just humiliated. I didn't
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: want to go to the combine and see all my
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: coaching friends after just being fired. I was embarrassed. So
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: Mooch says, come on, let's go. So I ended up
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: doing it, and I guess I did pretty good. And
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: some guys at Monday Night Football saw me and we
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: had a chance to interview. But when I met Turico,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: long story showed short. He helped me big time. He
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: threw me great fruits that I could hit. He would
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: hit me, you know, and probe me, and he really
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: helped me with my preparation and my confidence. But it
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: was a transition. It was pretty interesting. I really enjoyed
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: the three man booth when we had Jaworski up there,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: because we would bust each other's balls and it was
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: almost like three guys at a bar watching a football game.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: That's what I felt like. But it was a great trendransition,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: a lot of fun, and it allowed me to get
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: the tapes, keep studying. We got our quarterback camp going
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: in the spring, which kind of kept me going with
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: the draft and ultimately led to my return to the Raiders.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: Unfortunately I did last long.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about how hard it was, the transition. You're
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: talking about being embarrassed and humiliated. You are like a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: you were like a super Bowl winning coach and you
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: were somebody who got traded.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well that was hard too. But you know, when
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: you get fired, you guys know it is you're eventually
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: even you got cut, it's it. Maybe you decided yourself,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: but maybe you saw the writing on the wall. At
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: some point somebody says, yeah, you're fired, and it catches you.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: But when I did go back, it was it was
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: a lot different. The world had completely changed. What's really
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: hard is hiring a coaching staff. When you're the head coach,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: the most important thing you got to do is hire
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: the right coaches. I'm going to call the plays and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: coach the quarterbacks. That's just how I did it. But
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: you better hire the right defensive staff. You know, you
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: better get the right personnel group around you that sees
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: the vision that you have for the team or vice versa.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: We have to see it the same way. But that
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: was a big challenge is surrounding yourself with guys that
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: you grew up with. A lot of those guys had
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: their own jobs. They couldn't get out of their contracts.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: It's a pain in the ass man, getting your network
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: together on the same staff so you can go in
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 6: and do what you want to do.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: When you are picking out those coaches, you're talking about
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: your buddies. How hard is it to get a phone
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: call from a guy that you may have known for
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: a long time, that you know is not the right
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: person for the job. What's that conversation?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: Law man? It's hard, you know. You got to say
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: I'm going in another direction, and you lose some friends.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: It's hard to have a lot of friends, you know.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: Sometimes you got to turn a guy down. You can't
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: do it. You got a job open, Hey, I need
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: the job. I don't have a job. I need this job,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: and you got to let them down and sometimes it
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: costs you. But there's a lot of hard lessons and
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: mental toughness that you gotta understand come with being the
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: head coach.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were in media for those nine years,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: was the goal always to get back in the NFL
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: and be a coach.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: It was initially I thought I'd be right back in
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: doing something right. But the more I got around Tarrico
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: and Jaworski and the Dun Dun Dunt dah. I mean
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: I love that song, man, Yeah, And there was a
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: certain as a kid growing up, I love Monday Night Football.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: My mom and dad would let me stay up to
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: watch the highlights at halftime, Howard Cosell and Frank Gifford.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: I felt honored to be on Monday Night Football, but
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: I ultimately knew I had to get back on the sidelines.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: And I still miss it. Man, I still would like
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: to take one more swing. But right now I'm busting
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: with the boys and I'm with Barstool and I'm having fun.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Man, Are you hoping to get back on the sideline?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know fantasy. I live in fantasy
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: world a little bit. I'm no different than I was
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: when I was eighteen years old. You know, I fantasize
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: about stuff, and I still fantasize about getting a can
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: of whoop ass and going out there with a bunch
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: of guys and just kicking a shit out of some boy.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: I just like that competitive game day feeling. I just
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: know you can't get that anywhere else.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: Man, the butterflies, the juice. We were a smelling salt guy.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: No I've never did that. I never had to do that.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: The smelling salts were always It just adds that level
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: of anxiety to a whole new fun level. But dude,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: when the Jets fired for their head coach, I think
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: it was was it Booger came out and he's like,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: one name you need to think about right now is
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: John Gruden. And for the last couple of years, your
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: name wasn't really thrown around the whole coaching realm, and
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, your name is now starting to
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: find its way back into the NFL. When you start
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: to hear that, are you getting phone calls about anything?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: Or are you just the media is starting to talk
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: and you're letting them do their thing, because that's how
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: everything works. All it takes is one person to say
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: your name and then it's slowly, like a snowball, just
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: starts getting bigger and bigger as it rolls down a hill.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: Just a few conversations, you know. I think the big
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: thing I'm trying to do right now is coach people
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: that I have the FFCA, I have a you have
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: an office, I have my own I got my video tapes,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: and I'm obsessed with it. We have a lot of coaches,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: a lot of players. Uh, just different coaching staffs that
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: have come in and we study football, and I really
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: am getting my fix doing that. I really don't need
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: this nil stuff. I would I would give me a
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: heart attack.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Would you coach college?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: You know I might if it was a big program
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: with a lot of nil money, because I'd buy a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: lot of players, and I guarantee I could walk across
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: when we play Nebraska. You know what I'd do after
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: the game, I'd go find the two or three guys
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: that aren't playing a lot that I like. I'd say,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: you know what, you got to get your ass out
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: of here, come play. I would do a good job
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: of that. I can see my snake. But now I'm wired.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: I just I just am not wired. Like they're doing
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: business now in college. I can't deal with a lot
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: of this financial you know, paying you a million dollars
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: in the weak side linebacker gets a hundred or this
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: guy here, this guy gets nothing. I just have a
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: hard time. I'm with the salary structure and the whole
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: overall operation.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: But that's just me.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: When you see a guy like Bill Belichick with the
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: resume that he has, looking at UNC. Is it confirmed now?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: Is he now the Tar Hills head coach?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: He's willing to coach at the time we're recording this.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: The post that I saw was like the North Carolina
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Tar Hills they would know their decision within twenty four hours.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: With Bill Belichick coaching now in college? Like, what's your
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: thought process? Seeing that?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: I'm not really shocked as many people are. I think
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: he's got a son who's a very good young coach.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: The opportunity to maybe bring your son with you at
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: Chapel Hill, Chapel You guys have been.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: At Chapel Hill.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of good stuff there. Man to go
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: to Chapel Hill, you know, finish your coaching career with
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: your son. Perhaps get the program back to where people say, wow,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: we got to play North Carolina and maybe someday have
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: your son take over. Maybe that's something that's in the cards.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: I don't know. But he's got a new girlfriend. I
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: see that all over the internet. Things don't ever stay
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: the same. You either get better or worse, and I
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: think Belichick might be looking for something a little different.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: How would you like to live in New England for
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: fifteen years? Girlfriend has some fun kick some ass and
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: be with your son. You know, I think Belichick is
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: capable of doing just about anything in football. He's already
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: done it, and good for him if he chooses to
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: get into the NC. How would you like that? Though,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: if you're coaching in the ACC, you're at Wake Forest
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: or you're at Duke, you're the Miami Hurricanes, and you
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: open up with Bill Belichick.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: I know, I was impressed how well he's done in
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: the media this year. I did not think you heard,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: like Gronkowski and Edelman and Brady kind of like chirp
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: about to talk about how bland he is and how
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: he's kind of.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Have to see it for fifteen years.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, got to see it, just kind of talking to
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: the media. Now he comes in, he's doing Manning cast,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: he's on Pat McAfee show, and he does an incredible job.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: Did you expect that?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: I really didn't. But as I said, I I don't
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: know Bill Belichick like a lot of guys do. I
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: don't hang around with the defensive guys. The offensive guys
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: get on this bus. The defensive guys have always been
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: on that bus. But I remember when I was coaching
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: the Raiders, I got a call from Bill and he says, hey,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: I heard you like bon Jovi. My wife loves we
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: love bon Jovi. I go, yeah, we really do. Like
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: he's playing in San Jose Saturday night. You want to
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 6: meet him and get two tickets? I say, hell yeah.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: So I've always been indebted to Bill Belichick. He's a
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: cool guy, man. I mean, he is a really cool guy,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: and I just think it's exciting at his age to
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 6: reinvent himself and come back, perhaps as a college coach
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: says a lot about him.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about you have this football facility in Tampa.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: What does your week look like like? When do you
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: wake up? How is your routine on a day to day? Yeah?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: I got to have a routine, you know, Monday through Sunday.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: I have to have a routine. I always did as
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: a coach. But Monday, I really like to go in
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: there and look for my grinders, studying and looking at
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: the Sunday the games, the statistics, the playtime percentages, who
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: did what? My tapes really come in Tuesday morning. So
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: Monday I'm kind of you know, getting my boards ready.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: You know, who really played well in third down? Who
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: had the best scoring game? I want to see those games.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: How did Russell Wilson throw for four hundred yards? I
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: can't wait till the tape comes in. But I kind
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: of set up my Tuesday film study based on what
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: I see Monday, and then Tuesdays like an all day.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: That's why it's crazy. I'm here flying out on Tuesday.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: I couldn't get to my tapes, man, you know. Then
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: Wednesday I try to work on my presentation. I believe,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: you got to do the preparation. You gotta study the
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: tapes for me to say this guy's playing good. I
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: want to see that he's playing good. If this guy's
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: playing bad you read about I got to see he's struggling,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: you know. But I do the preparation. Then on Wednesday,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 6: I start the presentation, start to send out my boards
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: you know who I like, and I draw all my
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: stuff up. And then Thursday I get into some behind
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: the scenes things. I like to study red zone, just
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: different short yardage things, different running backs, just different things.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: But I love to study three hard days and then
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: I do like to get out on Friday. If I
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: can't hit the golf.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Ball, Yeah, what time? Been waking up throughout the week.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: I get up early, four thirty five o'clock, not like
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: I used to. But my office is right down the street,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: half a mile from my house.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: So let me just pause you for a second. You
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: said four to thirty five o'clock, now like I used to.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: What did you used to get up?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: I see up three o'clock three seventeen every day. Three
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: seventeen was my number?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: What time would you go to bed?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: I go to bed early. I go to bed at
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: nine thirty ten o'clock. I try to be in bed
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: by ten ten, ten o'clock the latest.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: Said ten ten. That is that's wild?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: What is that? What are the hours look like when
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: you are the head coach? Are you there till midnight
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: and waking up it? No?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: I could never do it at night. And I didn't
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: want my coaches to feel like they had to come
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: in at three o'clock or four o'clock. I didn't want
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: them to feel like that at all. But I had
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: to get in there early. Nobody bothering you, nobody's bitching,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: nobody's phones ringing. I had to focus my concentration on
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: the scripts, you know, the cards you got to draw,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: the cards, the tip sheets for the quarterbacks and you know,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: I try to get out when the work is done.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 6: You know, I did not want to be in there
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: all night.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 10: Now.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: When I worked for the Raiders, Al Davis was a
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: night guy, so I would be a morning guy and
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: Al would come in at seven o'clock at night. He
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: almost killed me that first year. Finally I said, hey,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: something's got to give, man.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: I just can't.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: I can't stay in here till midnight. But that was
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: a tough year. My Al broke me in pretty good man.
• 1:26:34
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• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Let's get back to this episode, man, I want to
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: talk about I want to talk about the time you
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: recruited me to come back to the Raiders. Yeah, if
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: you can remember, I'll recall it a little bit. So
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I was there the last five games for Oakland. We
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: had fun, like we weren't having the best season, went
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: out on a decent note defensively, and Coach Groom brings
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: me in for an exit meeting, you know, not like
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: the nil exit meetings where it's like, hey, you gotta
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: pay me this or I'm not coming back. But he
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: brings me in on an exit meeting.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 10: Coach Green's like I need Will Compton back, Like you're
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 10: not going to be a Hall of Famer, You're not
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 10: gonna be a pro bowler. I'm sitting there in my
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 10: head like I mean I'm still playing, and like, yeah,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 10: I understand I can't be a I probably won't be
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 10: a pro bowler, but I can still aspire myself a
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 10: little bit.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: Of juice and still could be a pro bowler.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Thought that right, right right, He's like, I want you around.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: We need more. Will Compton's on the team, and I
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen in free agency, YadA, YadA, YadA,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: because I got to play and start like three games
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: there at the end, which I'm thinking in my head
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: when I went out there and I did my workout,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: I was on the squad, I was in the backup,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: all was special teams. I was starting in base that
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: fucking first week. Right, Coach grew comes up. He's like, hey,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: just don't even think out there. Go out there and
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: make plays that fun. I love you, man, that's awesome.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Who would you play first week? The Lions will play
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: the Lions the first week, and uh so I ended
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: up taking over the job finishing out those three games,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: and so I'm thinking of my head, I thought I
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: was coming out there to kind of finish out my career, like,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: let me go out there. I'll go out on a bang,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: have some fun before the boys, bring some merchandise, promote busting,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: and just have a good time because the stress is
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: off of Like I felt like my career was kind
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: of done after I got injured with the Saints, and
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, okay, I get to go out
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: here and play like I'm just gonna go out fun
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: and play finish off playing the game that I started loving.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: And so when I played those three games, I'm thinking
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: in my head like maybe I might get a little
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe I might get a little something I knew. I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: bought myself a year or two just because I got
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: to play again. I got to have some film. But
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: they're going to recruit me. They pay fifty million dollars
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: to like little ten and Kwaikowski, great linebackers, good linebackers.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: But I'm thinking in my head, like, you know, I
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: thought I might get a little bit of I thought
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: I might get a little bit of coin two or three.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot guaranteed money is what he wanted.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone does.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: Every player does.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: What I'm gonna interest it in, though, is I have
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: this philosophy. It's called RCEE. You should get a hat
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: and put RCEE on it. Recognition Communication execution. I think
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: you got to have it at quarterback. The guy's got
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: to recognize the defense and then communicate the lion call,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: the audible whatever, And that's gonna lead to high levels
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: of execution. The thing I loved about Will is he
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: could recognize the offense, he could recognize the situation, and
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: he could communicate better than most guys I've seen at linebacker.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: He was a sharp guy, and that would lead to
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: higher levels of execution. A lot of the yards you
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 6: see are bullshit yards, bad tackling, bad defensive entry mistakes,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: a lack of recognition, a lack of communication. And if
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: we can have that piece and a secure piece, that's
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: what I was really after. But you were, let's be
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: honest here, you could come out with that smiley face,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: with that microphone. You wanted guaranteed money, and I can't
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: blame the guys go out to California and play football.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: Vegas.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the first year transferring, transitioning to Vegas
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: because they had offered I had a minimum on the
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: table with no signing bonus, which is like the games,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: the game. There was no market for me. So they
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: were in a spot to where it's like, I mean,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: nothing else is out there for you. We'll offer you this,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: And you know, I got PG calling me. He's like
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: explaining everything, he's like, and Coach Grud's like, I just
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: want you around. I want to see you. I want
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: them to see you communicate all this stuff. You don't
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: have to practice, you don't have to do this. And
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, like, I just came out there
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: as a minimum player and proved that I could play
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: like the week of the game, like I can do
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: the same exact thing, and I put where in turn
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: of my body for training camp, right, And I'm telling
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: this always trading camp with you. It was always just yeah,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: it was always training camp. And PG was like, can
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: you call coach Gruden and tell him the same stuff
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: because he's coming in. He's like, how are we signing
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: Prince of Mukamaru and Nelson Aguilar and Will won't come
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: out here to the Raiders. I'm like, yeah, I'll be
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: happy to talk to him. I called coach Coach Gruden
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: and I think he was just finishing a workout. It
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: sounded like he was sweating a little bit. He's like,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Will Compton. He's like, you're harder to sign than Keyshawn Johnson. Man,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: how do we get you out here to the Raiders?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, yeah, I bet you over Keyshawn Johnson
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: more than a minimum and a Subway gift card and
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: we're like bantering, laughing back and forth, and uh yeah,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: I always loved that story. I couldn't wait to tell
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: my old man because he's always been a massive fan
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: of football in yourself. But that's my like recruiting story
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: with coach Cruden. You're harder to sign than Key Shawn Johnson. Man,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, fuck, he mean he's getting it. I'm
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: sure paid him some money.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you had some characters in that Raiders team. What
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: was your interactions like with Richie Incognito? Love him, great guy.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: Incognito is out of football, he had the episode with Miami.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: He's out of the league, and we brought him in
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: for a workout and we have the Cones set up.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: We got Tom Cable, really good line coach been with
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: Seattle a long time. And Incognito comes out and he's
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: listening to Tom Cable tell him what he wants him
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: to do. He wants him to hop basically the first
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: ten yards Karaoka, do a couple other things just to
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: showcase his athleticism and his you know, his whatever. How
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: he can bend and twist. Incognito goes around the thing
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: one time, half speed, and cable goes. I've seen enough. Really,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: he's a great at Incognito is a really good apt
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: people do with that. He went to Nebraska. He's a
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: little full of shit like Compton, but you know, he
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: has the it factor that we needed. He had the nastiness,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: he had the he has the Taylor Luwan personality. He's
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: very outgoing. He's not afraid to say something. He'll make
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: you laugh, he'll piss you off. He had everything we
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: needed at Guard and he could pull on the power
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: plays and it just he has a great ability to
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: get out on screens. But I love being around him.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: He comes to Tampa, we played golf a little bit.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: He likes my wife. My wife's about this tall, and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 6: he's been through a lot in his life. But he's
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: he's he's really a character. We had Vontez Perfect, we
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: had traded for Antonio Brown. They put us on hard knocks.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: What a collection I was assembly you guys, Yes, I
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: was trying to bring back the old Raiders eighty Raiders.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: You did it. How was it?
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: What was it like having Perfect and Ab on the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: same team, Because obviously there's a whole thing about CTESPN
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: that AB's doing and you see that hit, that perfect
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: put on ab like was there ever? Did you have
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: to make amends there?
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: I never got around Antonio enough. You know, Antonio showed
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 6: up on a hot air balloon. He had his feet fried,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: he had cryo therapy. I never even heard of croywd therapy.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: And he had an issue with his helmet. He wasn't
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: happy the NFL wouldn't let him wear his helmet. So
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: we really never got him around the guys very much.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 6: I didn't have very much interaction with him at all. Really,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: one of the most frustrating things in my coaching career
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: was not getting him to play for us. We had
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: a mini camp. I tell you, we had a mini
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: camp back in Oakland. He put on a display. He
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: took some of our routes that we like to call lookies.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: I got all these words. He made the routes look
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: better than anybody I've ever seen. His conditioning was sick.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: If we didn't have a fence around the field, he
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: might have got killed by a car. Because he finishes everything.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: He'll run one hundred miles an hour. I thought. I
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 6: went home and got hammered. One night after mini camp.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: I told my wife and said, We're going to complete
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: every pass. That's how good this guy looked. He was phenomenal,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: and unfortunately I never got him for one freaking game.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: What's the conversation with Mayok when they're like you like, hey,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: what's the problem with ab And they're like, doesn't like
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: his helmet? His feet were fried from CROWFD therapy. What
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: are those upstairs conversations like when you're trying to deal
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: with a guy like that.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: Well, Mike was a new GM too, so a lot
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: of this stuff is his first time and experience.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: It was a rough deal and you're on hard knocks.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: Then he got vontez Berfeckt. But the two of those guys,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: they they mixed pretty good. They kind of laughed with
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: one another, and Richie was kind of like the third
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: part of the party. Those conversations were great. How you
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 6: talk about busting with the boys, you should see some
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 6: of the boys I bust with. But I I always
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: felt this, if you have football character on your team,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: and we felt our coaching staff. You know, we had
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: Derek Carr, we had some really good veteran players, good
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: football character. Let's bring in some characters. So we bring
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: in Perfick. You know, Perfect really is. He's a great guy,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: and he's a smart guy. He just knocks the shit
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: out of you. And what's wrong with that? I mean
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: that's my feeling. And uh, I think if you do
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: have the character in play, so you can bring in
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: some characters and have some fun. And Richie Incognito is
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: a great guy. Don't don't don't kid yourself on Perfect either.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: He's really smart and he's really a hell of a guy.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: He's misunderstood perhaps by some. And I really enjoyed Antonio Brown.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, hell, he he went out with my son.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: He cut a song. They got a song out there.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not even gonna tell you the name.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: We gotta find that song.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: Sure will definitely find that thing before day's end.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: And even on Incognito too, like he was he was
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: how old was he? He was like the oldest player
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: of fours and he was a pro. I'm talking about
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: like whenever practice with any at the massage therapists, I'd
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: be coming in the needle and he'd begin done like
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: somebody who like took care of his body around the clock.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: And working out with him in Arizona. He is a
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: guy that like doesn't necessarily look like an athlete, but
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: is truly athletic, Like he has all the pieces of
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: an office line you would want.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: He's stout too, Incognito, Yeah, I mean, we remember the
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 6: COVID where you can't have meetings with the players in person,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 6: so we would have zoom meetings, so you would see
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: all the players on their little corner. You'd be having
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 6: an offensive line meeting and you'd see the fifteen offensive line.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: You have a team meeting, and you could see a
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: lot of the faces. So I remember Incognito one time
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: I took all his clothes off, was walking around in
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: his garage. You know, he just did things that were
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 6: so off the wall hilarious. Uh, to keep everybody laughing.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 6: God bless that guy.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Killer man.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he has an aged a bit that face.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: You got to see him hit a golf ball.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: He can play. He's an athlete. Is he is an athlete?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Man, He's the wrong person to get on the bad
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: side with the football field. He was one of those
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: dudes that was a menace on just field goal. I
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: was trying to finish you on field Oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I wouldn't want to wouldn't want to deal
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: with that.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: You want to get him going to hopefully you draw
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: a penalty.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: I wish I was able to play with him. I
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: would I would have loved to play. I think that
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: he was with Buffalo for a minute. There was a
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: little bit of talk about him coming to the Titans,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: and I was like, man, that'd be awesome to play
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: right next to him for a year.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 6: Aggreation this you you played, You played one of the
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: toughest positions. There are, man who who are some of
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: the guys now that play left tackle that you look
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: at and say, he's really good? Who are they?
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: These days?
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 6: It's easy to say Trent Williams, he's not playing right now.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Trent to me is I think is the
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: greatest of all time. I think he is from an
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: athletic standpoint, from a strength standpoint understanding, because with the
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: offensive line, like you're playing every single snap of the
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: game and they say to go hard every single play.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: He is a true understanding of like, if you're the
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: backside on power and you're doing a hinge like you
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: you have a very easy job. You take care of
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: the big gap, you wing out, the end's coming down,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: you just block him out. Real quick, so he he
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: does a great job of picking and chooses his times
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: to attack in the game. A guy that I like,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: I love his feet is Lamry Tunzel. I know we
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: talked about Houston having some struggles, but I think his
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: feet or maybe the best feet of it I've ever seen.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: I think Ronnie Stanley, he's got a poetic movement about
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: him when he's in his past set, he's he's very
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: smooth and a guy that who's who was injured and
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: has now come back and I played with him. Jack
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: Conklin talk about a guy that has zero technique, has
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: zero fundamentals when it comes to playing the position, but
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: just always gets the job done. I like those guys
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: quite a bit.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 6: They got a guy in Tampa. I really like this,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: Tristan Wurfs.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah, Tristan.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: He's a power player.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: Have you seen have you seen the video and he
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: was coming out for the drafts jumping out of the pool.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: Who can do that?
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: That that type of power is just different. And then
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: we talked about him too. Is Joe al I like
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: Joe Alt quite a bit too, Like a young guy
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: who's found his way on a run heavy offense that
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Of and embracing the move. The right tackle. Yeah, because
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: you're talking about that, like you know some guys that
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: he was telling you at the draft he didn't want
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: to play.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that's incredible. It's wild how Iowa gets
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: these offensive lineman, man, I.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: Know, and then white cornerbacks.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the uh and then Micah Beckton was it Mikeah Beckton,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: That's who we were talking about.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 6: Mackay beck the left tackle. He's out of Louisville. He
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 6: he you know, he goes to New York and the
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: media gets on him and they let him go, and
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: he gets with the right coach and reinvents them, puts
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 6: him in there right guard.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: It's it's really important for these the position groups at
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: all times. I'm sure it's important for everywhere, but for
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: an offensive line coach, especially because you got DB's and
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: they're all like, they're not playing as one unit. They
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: all have their own jobs. So might being zoned. So
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: might be a man you're playing two high, one high,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: and then receivers. You have all your different routes. But
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: with an offensive line, it's like, truly all five guys
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: have to be on the same page. With what everybody's doing.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: That's just such a different job. You need a good
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: offensive line coach to be successful. You gotta have it.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's that's probably the most important higher. Yeah,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: if you're the head coach, your defensive coordinator, and your
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: line coach, you know you got to you gotta get
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 6: somebody that can be the sixth man that can play
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 6: both guards and center, a swing tackle. Those are tough jobs. Man.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: What were those conversations like with the swing guys when
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: you're saying you have a guy like me, was a
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: guy that only played left I couldn't you put me
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: in a right handed stance. I'm as worth as the
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: football player as you'll ever see.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: Well, I think the good line coach, Well, you're the
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: left tackle. You're you're the highest paid left tack. We're
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 6: not going to talk about you for a minute. But
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: other guys on the practice field. Bill Callahan was my
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: line coach for a long time. He's currently with the Titans. Yeah,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: Son's the head coach. But he would go out on
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 6: the practice field and we'd have Lwan playing right guard.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 6: I'm like, Bill, what the hell are you doing?
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 6: And then we got Luwan's playing right tackle two days later.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 6: But my point is he would create your versatility. He
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 6: would force you to get in a right handed stance,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 6: a left handed stance, a two point stance, a four
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 6: point stance. And I think you have to have a
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 6: line coach and a backup line coach who studies a
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 6: play side the backside. It's always on your ass every
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 6: second of the day. Those are what the great ones do,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: you know? And I think, as you said, that's a
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 6: key part of being a great lineman, as who's coaching
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 6: you With Rabel.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: Rabel was always a guy that would just find his
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: way into the offensive line room and it would just
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: tell us how to block. I having no idea how
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: to block offensive line. He just like just getting away
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: all you have to do. You don't just position block
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: this guy. Were you ever a guy that would just
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: wander into position groups and just hang out for a
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: Not really. I was pretty much always on the offensive side,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: you know, but I would try to reach out to
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: the defensive guys later in the week. I always had
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: a lot of respect for our past rushers. You know,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: we have to have a fourth quarter pass rush or
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: we got no chance That's why I can't wait to
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: see these playoffs Warren sapp Simme and Rice. You have
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: to have guys that can close you out. And that's
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 6: why I love the forty nine ers if Bosa plays.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: But now without Bosa, without Armstead, they don't have that
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter pass rush.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: That's why the Chiefs can win the Super Bowl every
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: year because they do have a great coach and a
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: great quarterback.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: But they got a.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 6: Fourth quarter pass rush man. Yeah, and if you have
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 6: those three, you have to have those three elements I
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: think to win it. But I was always interested in
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: the game plan of our past rushers. What are you
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 6: gonna do to Luan? You know, what are you gonna
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 6: do to Luwan? But as you know, you don't want
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 6: to be in third and seven. You don't want to
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 6: have a lot of third days, you know. And when
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 6: you do get the third and seven, you gotta be
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: careful as a play caller to make sure we have
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 6: a chip over there. We got somebody nudging the guy
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: quick game screens. You got to do some things to
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: help these guys because in the noise against some of
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: these guys, it's a bitch. It's a hard job.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: You got You've either got to chip these guys, slide
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: to the most dangerous pass rusher, or have a quarterback
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: that can facilitate and get the ball out quickly. That
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: was one thing. We had Ken Wizzen Hunt for twenty
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: fourteen and fifteen, and Ken was like, this is my offense,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: but he's been dealing with Philip rivers for the last
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: ten years. So we have Jake Locker and Zach Mettenberger. Eventually,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: after Jake hurts his thumb and it's all key right
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: and key left, we're doing six man's protections. We're not
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: doing chips ever, and we don't have the quarterback that
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: understands the offense well enough to know where his hots are,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: where to get the ball out, or where the man
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: side protection is with von Miller on that side. So
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: it was tough Slend for a couple of years. You
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: need those chips, You got to have them play that.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: You're obsessed with Spider two White Banana. What's the obsession?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: It's a man. It's a max protection type of situation,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: a low red type of situation. Why do you love
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: it so much?
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 6: Andrew Luck? We had Andrew Luck on our show, Gruden's
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 6: QB camp and David Shaw, the head coach of Stanford,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: was on my staff in Philly and in Oakland. Well,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 6: Stanford runs a lot of Spider two why banana? And
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: I have never met a quarterback coming out of college
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 6: like Andrew Luck. I mean he had everything six four
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 6: two forty, he could run and probably the smartest guy
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 6: I've ever met play the position. So they're running Spider
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: two white banana at Stanford unlike I've ever seen. And
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 6: I'm just studying getting ready for Andrew Luck, and I'm
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 6: seeing Spider two wive and asked Spider three wive and
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 6: ass fight. Guy's putting on a clinic, throwing, throwing, But
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 6: Spider two, why banana? They must have thrown fifteen touchdowns.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: I'm not shitting yet. So they're playing USC. Stanford is
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 6: playing USC big game College football game Day? Is there?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 6: Spider two why banana? Is very simple. You hit the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: fall back in the flat or at the tight end.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: Pops.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 6: You might hit the tight end of the corner. You
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 6: never throw the ball backside on Spider two white banana. Well,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 6: Andrew Luck on Spider two wiye Banana against USC throws
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: a pick six, throwing to the backside. He called it
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: a lightning route or something. So as soon as I
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 6: got to that play, his face got red as a
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 6: sheet and we busted his balls on that. Yeah, and
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 6: it just kind of went viral whatever the word is.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 6: You guys use you know when something hits with fans,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 6: But it was. It was a cool moment and ever
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 6: since the Spider two white Banana. But it is a
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: hell of a play. If you're running power, if you're
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: running a rock, if you're running Mike alstot a ninety
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: six power and your linebackers are worried about tackling that
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: big sum bitch, watch out. We'll slip it full back
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 6: into the flat.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Spider two wive Bananas or two. Who are some of
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: the teams right now that are kind of in the
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: middle of the pack that you could see winning the
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: whole thing.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: I think Pittsburgh and Baltimore, I think someone's gonna come
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 6: out of the you know, I still think I still
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: think Pittsburgh's dangerous. I mean, they're leading their division, but
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: when you look at their schedule them in Baltimore, I
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 6: kind of consider them as the middle of the pack
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 6: in the AFC's a that's a tough question for me.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 6: I really think there's five or six teams that have
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 6: a chance to win it. I think there's about twenty
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: teams that are getting ready for next year.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you What is your view of the
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: landscape of football right now? The quality of the product.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: I just think continuity is a big part of winning.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 6: When you look at Andy Reid, He's been there, He's
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 6: done that. He's been in Kansas City, Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: John Harbaugh and Baltimore. Dan Campbell's been in Detroit, Shanahan.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 6: You know. I like the teams that are in the
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 6: money every year. It just seems to me like have
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 6: been together the Philadelphia Eagles, Syrian he's been there now
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 6: a few years. I just think there's a lot of
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 6: change over now. Teams change coaches, not just head coaches,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 6: often the coordinators, defensive coordinators, and I think it's a
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 6: problem with the development of players. You guys can speak
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: on this when you're a first year player, when you're
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 6: a rookie, it's an eye opening deal.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 6: I don't care what round, but when you came back
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 6: as your second year in the same system, that's when
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 6: you probably showed your most improvement. But when you keep
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 6: pulling a rug out of you players, and here's a
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 6: new snap count, here's a new system, it's a it's
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 6: a hard deal to get better, don't you think?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you're on that like level one learning curve
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: in that first year, and then again when you go
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: into years two, year three, you're looking at them details.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: You're thinking outside the box. You're trying to think more
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: like a coordinator than just your own position. You're thinking
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: about everywhere, everybody else around you have everything moves around you.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, when it's a new system, it's like you
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: just want to understand, like what your job is.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 4: You understand, right, you understand the bigger picture going into
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: year two as opposed to just your your assignment for
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: your play calling? Was it always the same? Did you
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 4: always keep the same numbers? You say, ninety six power
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: spider two wide it inage? You always have the same
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: terminol and phrases going from year to year? Did you
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: ever try to switch it.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Up a little bit?
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 6: I took a lot of pride in the verbage I
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: learned under Bill Walsh with the forty nine ers, Mike Congrin,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 6: we had a lot of words and we became very worthy.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: But when I was out of football and I came back,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 6: we realized that a lot of these players, you know,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: we got to we got to tighten up our communication
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 6: so we can pick up a player off the waiver wire,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 6: make a trade whatever, and bring you in and fast
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: track you. You don't have time to learn all these crazy
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 6: words and what they mean. So we did streamline it
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 6: a little bit, but we still had a lot to
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 6: say because we had a lot of formations. We had
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 6: a lot of motions, a lot of personnel groupings. And
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 6: if you want to have a big airport you want
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 6: to take flights everywhere, you got to make sure you're organized,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 6: you have the ability to do that. I'm just I
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 6: never liked these teams that line up in trips right
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 6: and clap their hands and put the ball in play.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: I like multiple looks. If the defense hasn't seen it,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 6: they can't prepare for it. It's an illusion of sophistication or
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 6: just simple and basic plays that start off looking the
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: same that are different. You know, there's some common threads
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 6: in philosophy I think that you got to have if
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: you're going to be any good at it.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: How much football. Do you feel like you forgot when
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: you were in media for nine years? Terminologies your playbook.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 6: I probably didn't much, just because I have my own
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 6: computer at home, and when I watch the first play
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 6: of the game, I type in the formation A lot
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 6: of times, I even type in the front. So now
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: you save your work and I can come back and
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 6: be my own quality control guy. It's a sick obsessed
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 6: world of football I live in, and that's why it's
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 6: kind of cool to get out of it. And it's
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 6: almost like I'm out of prison or something. I mean,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: I'm playing golf with these guys and there's a drone
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: flying around me and Trent you're playing. We're playing golf.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: Frankie's on the other team. We're talking to having a
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 6: good time. I'm like, is this John Gruden? You know,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 6: shouldn't I be in a fucking laboratory study in a
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 6: red zone offense or something? And now I'm on the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: bus with you guys. It's really you know, wish ou
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 6: I've done this ten years ago. It's a lot more fun.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Man. What can people expect with you at barstool? It
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: seems like you bring back the Gruden football camp.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 6: We're going to try to bring back Gruden's QB camp
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 6: and it won't be the same. It'll be it'll have
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 6: a little different spice to it. But this Dave Portnoy guy,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 6: he's something else. And this big Cat guy, I really
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 6: like this Big Cat. Yeah, I'm just getting to know them.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 6: And I got hired really week eight of the season.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: So it's hard to just create a show and come on,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're going to have to put a little
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 6: time on task and meet with some people. And you know,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 6: I'd like to do something with you man, like to
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 6: do something with you guys. I don't know. Yeah, but
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: I have a creative mind myself and just starting to
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 6: scratch the surface a little bit. I've got some people
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 6: out there that send me nasty texts and messages. You know,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 6: they help me get better, and I encourage that, you know,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 6: I need to help from people. But I really am
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 6: excited about what could happen because I know the potential is.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, bro, you're the top of a rocket ship.
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  Speaker 4: Like barstool has a way of making you more known
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how'd those conversations go? They've just hit you up like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 6: I got a I got a message on one of
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 6: those uh you know, I don't know Twitter, tiktoks or whatever. Yeah,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 6: my son Mike, who wrote the song Nicy, he's my
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 6: music man. He says, Hey, Dad, Dave Portnoy reached out
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 6: to you. So, to make a long story short, my
• 1:51:26
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• 1:51:30
  Speaker 6: Dave flew in to see me and we just had
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 6: dinner together and talked a little bit. Next thing I know, man,
• 1:51:36
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• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: you know, you walk in you don't realize what's going on.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, hell, I'm just a coach. I walk in
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: there and they're filming stuff. Hey what about John Daily?
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: Did you go golf with John Daly? You start talking
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  Speaker 6: about it. Next thing you know, it's out there. Everybody
• 1:51:51
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• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: fascinating how it works. Yeah, you know, and the the
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 6: ability that they have to reach so many people on
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: so many different platforms instantly, and they take a lot
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 6: of pride in it. You know, they want to be
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  Speaker 6: really good, which is what I like.
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  Speaker 1: Right your Gruden loves football content. I mean since day one,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: I like I consume it. It's like, all right, I'm
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: trying to hope you you drop stuff before we do
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  Speaker 1: the locker room to hear everything you're breaking down, because
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  Speaker 1: I remember, I'm like, I'm not thinking it's probably his
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: son running the profile, but he's got the Gruden loves
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  Speaker 1: I need gruden On bustling with and I've already messaged
• 1:52:29
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• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: like I need gruden On busting with the boys like
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: I need air. And he responds to me like it's
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: him running the whole Twitter account. He's like, oh, you're
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: a Gruden grinder. Of course I'll come on. And I'm thinking, oh, okay,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just messing with coach Gruden again.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, when you break a game down.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 6: What I wanted to do with that is try to
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 6: take fans into a little bit of the reality of
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 6: what we go through one hundred percent. If it's the
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 6: Chargers in the Bucks, Let's start with top of line
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 6: things you might want to know. I'm here's the injury
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 6: list right, Here's where they rank statistically, Here's how they
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 6: play on the road. I mean, there's a lot of
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: things that you got to get your mind straight on
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 6: before you even get in to the Chargers offense. Let's
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: talk nothing but about Chargers offense. And I wanted the
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: fans to know who the offensive linemen were, who the
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: receivers were, who the running backs were, who the plate
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 6: caller was. I mean, I spent twenty minutes on a
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 6: Chargers offense. Here's a couple of schemes they like to run.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 6: This is the Chargers offense, but they're going up against
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: Tampa's defense. And then you spend twenty minutes on Todd
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 6: Bowles calls the plays. You know, they got Winfield's hurt,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 6: they got Jamal Deane's hurt, and you go into all
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 6: the matchups and some of the blitzes that Todd Bowles runs.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 6: Then he got to do the Chargers defense against the
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 6: Bucks offense. Next thing you know, it's an hour and
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: fifteen minutes on one game, and people are like, man,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: fans aren't gonna want to watch all that, but the
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: hardcore fans, oh, bro nutty, people like me like it.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: Then at the end of the game, they say, at
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 6: the end of the presentation, they say, well, we got
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 6: to make a prediction who's gonna win? I said, I
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 6: don't know who's gonna win. I say, I don't care
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 6: who wins. Yeah, you know. But then I start picking
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 6: scores and some of my picks, I'm like, you, guys,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 6: I root for a team a little bit. I kind
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: of want so I kind of picked them to win.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: And it's not some of the gambling people. They get
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 6: pissed at.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: You.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 6: Screw me, man, you gave me all this information.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: I remember coming to Taylor, I'm like, hey, have you
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: seen this Grudenless football show. I'm like, bro, he runs
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: it like he's low key, like running a team meeting
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: at the top of a week.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: It's incredible, the breakdown of everything. Have you noticed how
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: easy it is to overthink things because it's like you
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: can break down all the film you want, but they're like,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: all right, who's gonna win? And you're like, well, this
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: team and they're like, well know their defense is this
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 4: and that. Have you have you ran into that where
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: it's like you get into a point of overthinking it
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 6: You can easily overthink it. And I tell you there
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 6: are some games. Now I'm not a big gambling guy.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 6: I'll be honest with you. There are some games I've
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 6: learned to stay away from. Got no idea what's going
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 6: to happen in this game, And there are certain games.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 6: As I told you guys earlier, I'm going in on
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: this game, you know. And I don't pick the spreads.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 6: I would never picked the spreads. And I know you
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 6: don't make as much money when you pick the money
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 6: line they call it, but you pick a team to win.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 6: I'm pretty good at picking winners. And I don't get
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: involved in a spread. And then my son says, we
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 6: don't get anybody if you pick the money line. Well,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 6: if you pick two money lines, you know.
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  Speaker 1: You got a little barley.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm learning. Anyways, I'm I'm I'm learning and I'm
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  Speaker 6: loving it. And this is really cool, this operation. I
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  Speaker 6: And I tell you, I don't know where you guys
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 6: are going with the future. There's a lot of rumors
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 6: about where you two guys are heading.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully all yeah, hopefully nice chatter.
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  Speaker 6: It is very nice.
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  Speaker 1: Back the episode, Let's say you're running a fantasy football league,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: but the teams are made up of only coaches. Which
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: coach are you drafting first?
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  Speaker 4: First overall pick?
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  Speaker 6: I take Andy Reid. Is Andy Reid. He can call
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  Speaker 6: the plays and he can coach the quarterback. Man.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good pick. Yes, everybody's gonna fault you there.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: If you could only watch one NFL game on repeat
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, which game are you
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: one NFL game?
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 6: It would be the millennium game Raiders versus Chiefs. The
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 6: calendar just kicked over to two thousand. I was in
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 6: my second year coaching the Raiders. I was going to
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 6: get fired. We were seven and eight. We're playing at
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 6: the Chiefs. All the Chiefs need to do is win
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 6: this game. Beat the Raiders, who they beaten one hundred
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 6: times in a row and they win the division, get
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 6: a home playoff game. We're down seventeen zip after about
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 6: six minutes and this place is rocking. Man, my boy
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 6: rich Gannon got pissed off and shred him. We beat
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 6: him thirty eight thirty five in overtime. Check that game out.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 6: Raiders at the Chiefs two thousand, last.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: Game of the year.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: Hey, just he knew it off the top too.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 6: We busted him, good man. I was dancing on the field.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 6: Probably saved my job that day too.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, guy's got to be a great feeling and go home,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 4: crack up in a nice drink.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 6: What what's your favorite memory on the grid iron? Just
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 6: get one.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen playoffs AFC Divisional Round against the Baltimore Ravens.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 4: They were the one seed. We had to win five
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: of six just to make it into the playoffs. We
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 4: play against the New England Patriots and the dynasty for
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady was his last game as a Patriot, and
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 4: we go in against the Ravens. It was Lamar Jackson's
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 4: first MVP in Baltimore. The Bank was as loud of
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 4: a stadium as I've ever heard of my entire life.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: And we owned him.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 4: Like I that is my favorite game from a blocking standpoint. Ever,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: they had eight guys in the box from ran Wanda,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 4: which is open side outside zone, and we blocked him
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: and Derek ran it for like forty yards. It just
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: felt like everything we did it was we were gonna
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 4: get at least four yards.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 6: Guy, he's sitting up like.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: It was awesome.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 4: We had a turnover. We had a turnover in that game.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 4: I think Jeroe Casey got a strip stripsack fumble that
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 4: was picked up by Harold Landry. That player on like
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  Speaker 4: the forty six yard line going in and we call
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• 1:59:27
  Speaker 4: it's Kleief Raymond. He's like four or five yards past
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  Speaker 4: the dB and we score a touch on the next
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 4: play and it's just like that cool, We're gonna beat
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  Speaker 4: the That's just thanks.
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  Speaker 1: See.
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  Speaker 6: That's the one thing I've learned about being in social
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 6: media is I like to discover like great plays. I
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 6: like to go back and show you some of the
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 6: memories of other players. I have tape in my office
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 6: of Lawrence Taylor. I got Eric Dickerson ronning with that
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: high form. But you can't show you can't really show
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 6: the video. You don't have rights to the video to
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 6: use all the time you see, So you gotta, you know,
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 6: you gotta creative find ways to make your point. But
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 6: I would love to see that game.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 4: It's awesome.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: Here's yeah.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 4: I can go on all day by that game. That
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 4: game was awesome. The blocking was incredible. We had five
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 4: guys doing everything right every single play. It was unbelievable.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: It's hard to think about mine. I feel like it's
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: more you just get pissed off that you lost, like
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: when we lost the Green Bay in the walladcard round
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: when we ended up winning the division. Probably the most
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: fun game and most fun memories when we clinched the
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: division at Philly right around Christmas, went out there. That
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: was the dad game, my only career sack on Sam Bradford.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: But we beat their ass and we came back and
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: just the city, the town was packed in Ashbourne, Virginia,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: like you were just going one two miles an hour
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: driving out of the facility because fans were so excited.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: It was such a moment that you know, that was
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: like do you like that year Kirk Cousins kind of
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: making his run. We're kind of a bad football team
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: and we'd win one, lose one, try to string a
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: couple together, and we ended up winning the division that year.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: In the NFC. Least they called it, but I would
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: say that game is probably the most memorable fun game
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: as far as moments go. Probably when I got I
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: got to start against the New Orleans Saints we played
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: the week before at New England. We got our ass kicked,
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: but I made a few good plays. I think I
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: had like eight tackles, and they made the switch to
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: make me the mic, the mic backer, and I remember
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: kerk Olividadi, he pulled me right into the office before
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: we went into the defensive room to have to have
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: a defensive meeting to start breaking down the Saints. He
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: pulled me in and he whispered, you got the keys,
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: make me right and just dap me up. And I'm like,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: oh shit, we're rolling like I'm active, like I get
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: to play now. And so we end up beating the
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: Saints ass bro And the paper that one of the
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: papers is next week was like, you know, r W
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: a Redskins with attitude, and I, you know, I was
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: spotlighted in it. Had a really good game, and that
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: was Probably the most memorable moment was when I got
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: to ultimately like take over the job in Washington, because
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: you know, you just you bust your ass to getting
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: all the situations that you're in. The year before that,
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: there was like, you know, that's when I got to
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: play against you guys the delaying game and I had
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: a little run there because somebody had gotten hurt to
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: where I accumulated some tackles. But then you just start
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: to get noticed. The next year, it's like, hey, are
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: you gonna take this guy's job? You have a couple
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: of injuries, you don't get the opportunity to take it.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: Then in the middle of the year as it unfold,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: similar to the Oakland year where you just ended up
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: getting an opportunity and you just don't look back. Like
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: those are those are more of like my memorable times
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: in the NFL.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 4: What was the least favorite game ever?
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: Good question?
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 6: The tuck rule was bad.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I forgot that. I forgot the Yeah,
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: because there he did walk through, you know, take it
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: at his facility and he goes in the bathroom on
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: the shitter and he's got the photo sitting up and
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: it's the tuck rule photo.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 6: You know, we played the AFC Championship game when I
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 6: was coaching the Raiders against Baltimore, and I don't know
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 6: if you remember, but Sarah Gousa killed our quarterback. We
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 6: don't get a personal file, we don't get anything. It
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 6: really pissed me off in that game too. But the
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 6: tuck rule, you know, instant replay is designed to only
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  Speaker 6: overturn a play. That's completely what obvious right to lose
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 6: a game like that. Think of Steve Wisnowski, He's nine
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 6: Pro Bowls, William Thomas, Eric Allen, these are great NFL players.
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  Speaker 6: That's the last game they ever played. You know, we
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 6: got we got a chance to go to the Super Bowl.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 6: That's what kind of team we had. And I can
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 6: see Belichick taking his headset off, their whole stab. Brady's
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 6: walking off the field. You can interview any of them.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 6: They knew that game was over. Yeah, And the only
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 6: thing wrong with the tuck rule is they spelled it wrong.
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  Speaker 6: It's really not a t it's another consonant it's supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be.
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  Speaker 1: That's what They don't.
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  Speaker 6: Even have the rule anymore.
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  Speaker 4: That's how bad it is.
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  Speaker 1: God the biggest rival coach out there. We're just like,
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: I want to get his ass. Whether you guys went
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: back and forth to.
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  Speaker 6: Or they had to be Andy. You know, had to
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 6: be Andy Reid, you know, because we were on the
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 6: same staff. We're on Mike Holmgrean's staff in Green Bay.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 6: You guys love this. So Andy played for Mike Holmgren
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 6: at BYU, so he was kind of the teacher's pet,
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 6: you know. Yeah, I don't know, I love So we
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 6: had this big board, me and Mary Ucci and Andy
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 6: Reid were young coaches at the time, and we would
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 6: put the plays on the board with the formations and
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 6: these are the plays that we think should be in
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 6: the game plan, and Homegroom would be doing his thing.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 6: He'd come in. He'd sit there and look at the
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 6: board and in a different color would be a new play.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 6: And homegrown was always he was always whose play is that,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 6: Andy goes, that's my play. That's sixty nine handoff solid.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 6: You get on the board and draw it. Mike would
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 6: put it in and Andy would like look at me
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 6: and moods like I'm smarter than you.
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  Speaker 4: Gain Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So Andy would get a play in the game plan.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 6: It would be called and he gains six yards or
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 6: a gain eight yards and Andy walk around the office
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 6: all week. I guess, bitch, So now we're not playing good.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 6: We just signed Reggie White in free agency, we got
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 6: we got Brett Farr playing again, we got Sterling Sharp,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 6: we got a hell of the team, and we're not
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 6: playing it. We're like two and three and people are
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 6: starting to get on Holmegren's ass a little bit. You
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 6: know what I mean, what's wrong with you guys? So
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 6: we go into the room. There's all the plays and
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 6: there's this play called Fox three full back slide fifty eight.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 6: All go z search Homegrin's like, what are those plays?
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 6: I go, those are my two plays? And I had
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 6: to cut up and I well, you don't like our place?
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 4: Is that what your problem is? You don't want to run?
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 6: He was on my ass, like yelling at me. My fuck.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 6: So we go play the Bears on Halloween night. You
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 6: can go back and watch this game.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 6: It's pouring down rain, the worst night in the history
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 6: of football. Third and two. Early in the game home,
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 6: Grin calls red left fake Fox three naked right full
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 6: back slide. I swear to god, Brett Favre kept it.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 6: Runs it in longest touchdown run of his career thirty
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 6: six yards on Monday Night football. I'm on the sidelines.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying anything, but I'm like, God damn, that's
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 6: my play.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 4: So listen late, this is true.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 6: Late in the game, we just need a first down
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 6: of games over and it's like third and fourteen, and
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 6: I had seen Dan Marino running all go with a
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 6: little search route. The guy acted like he was running
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 6: a scene, but he would throw his shoulders down and uncover.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 6: And I put that play in and Sterling Sharp ran
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 6: it better than Mark Clayton, and Mark duper ever ran
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 6: it far up through it like a twenty three yard
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 6: game to icy game. That's my plate too. So we
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 6: get on the plane and back. Then they give you
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 6: a little bag with two beers in it, and Holmer
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 6: is sitting in the front with Ron Wolf the GM
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 6: and I'm in the back. I'll never forget this. I
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 6: got my beer and I'm drinking it. I'm thinking, God damn,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 6: that was the greatest day of my life. Holger turns around,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 6: he goes Hey, Grueber calls me, Gruber, Hey, Grueber, come
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 6: down here. I walk down and fucking think I sit
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 6: next to him, he goes game ball.
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  Speaker 4: Hell of a job.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 6: I turn around. I walked back to my seat. I
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 6: see Andy Reid and I go game ball.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 4: I love competing with Ady Reid.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 6: And then when we competed against each other and he
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 6: was in Philly, I was in Oakland or Kansas City.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just used to love seeing them. And
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 6: I love you Christmas and God bless you.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 6: If I can ever do anything, if I ever come
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 6: back and coach, you'll be my left tackle.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: Let's fucking go.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 4: You have a bad You're not getting.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 6: A guaranteed contract, though you're getting.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: A ship it.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 6: You're getting a minimum salary benefit. And no one said it,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 6: but you coach for you. I gotta have a left tackle.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: Before before you go, I do want to play a
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 4: game of crystal ball with you. Okay, Of all the
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 4: coaching positions that might be open this year, it might
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 4: be the Dallas Cowboys. We know the Jets, we know
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 4: the Bears. Where do you think you would fit in best?
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 6: I have no idea that puts me on the spot.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, that's a tough one. We'll cut it.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: Guess what cut Hey appreciate you coming on, man.
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  Speaker 6: I do think the Bears with that young quarterback is interesting.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I like their defense too. Man, have you seen him play?
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 6: I got some guys on Edwards. I mean, he's a
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 6: hell of a player. They got some linebackers that can run.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 6: When they lost Jakwan Brisker, they lost a key member
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 6: of that secondary, but they got corners. They do have
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 6: some pass rushers. They got some receivers.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they got a quarterback. I like this kid.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: Man, got you a.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 6: Nice Minnesota might look out on Monday night.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: These guys.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 6: This quarterback is interesting, man. I love It's got me
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 6: feeling nicey.
• 2:08:25
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  Speaker 1: Twisted question. You are down? You were down a point
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  Speaker 1: two seconds left. It's fourth and twenty from the thirty
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: five yard line. But your kicker broke his foot. What's
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: the play call? Shit?
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 6: Thanks a lot. I'll go tandem right seventy six rebound pass.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 6: I'll throw a hail Mary up there. I'll isolate my
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 6: best receiver. If they play one on one over there,
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 6: I'll throw it to him. If not, I'll take I'll
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 6: pop it up into the end zone.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: Touchdown.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 6: Love it because you ever see guys throw hail mary's
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 6: in the ball lands off the field of play. I
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 6: want to make this point before I leave. Have you
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 6: ever seen this shit where the I'm talking to hail
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 6: mary okay, and the ball lands off of the field
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 6: of play. Have you ever seen that?
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 6: You asked, yes, Why do you think that is?
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 4: They're scared?
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 6: Why do you think it is?
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 4: It's the QB.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 6: Rating man, They don't want to throw interceptions.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, you think it's an ego thing.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 6: I know it is. It has to be. These are
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 6: the greatest passers in the world. You mean to tell
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 6: me on a hail Mary, you can't put the ball
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 6: on the field to play. Seriously, you can throw the
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 6: ball in that tight window that big, you can sizzle
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 6: it in there off platform into a window that big,
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 6: but on the last play of the game, you can't
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 6: keep the ball on the playing field. Let me tell you.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 6: When you see that, you know you're dealing with somebody
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 6: that's interested in his QB rating. I keep an eye
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 6: on that. I will, I will what last saying. I'll
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 6: tell you. I learned this from Reggie White. Do you
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 6: know tackles for loss and sack is a big way
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 6: these guys get paid, right, Yeah, So back in the day,
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 6: Reggie White told me this a long time ago. They're
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 6: playing for the Philadelphia Eagles and the quarterback takes a knee.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 6: Reggie White, Clyde Simmons. He told me those guys would
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 6: go flying in there to touch the quarterback to get
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 6: credit for a TfL. And now that rule, I guess
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 6: has changed too. But I'm interested in You know, two
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 6: seconds left in the half, you're in a prevent defense
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 6: and somebody runs a draw play for sixteen yards. You
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 6: know those. That's why statistics you gotta be really careful
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 6: when you look at them.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 4: Man, I love that knowledge. Yeah, I love knowledge.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: I love the take. Coach.
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  Speaker 1: That was awesome.
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