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- 0:00Welcome back everybody to another fun episode
- 0:03of Paranormal Lens. This one is going to be fun.
- 0:06We are talking about dreams and I promise this
- 0:12conversation will not put you to sleep. Welcome
- 0:16to our podcast where we take deep dives looking
- 0:18at various topics through a paranormal lens.
- 0:23Dream, dream, dream, dream, dream, dream. Dream,
- 0:27dream, dream. It's literally just the word dream
- 0:32over and over. That's from Sharkboy and... It's
- 0:37Taylor Lautner in Sharkboy and Lava Girl. Hell
- 0:42yeah. Like I was saying, I've never actually
- 0:46watched that movie. You've never seen them? No.
- 0:48No way. Not even the first scene on a free trial?
- 0:56There was a throwback to our Warrens episode.
- 0:59I didn't just see it in theaters. I saw it in
- 1:033D. Maybe I did see it once. It was probably
- 1:08one of those movies that my parents deemed was
- 1:10lame and I never watched again. It probably is
- 1:14very lame, but at the time it's like the best
- 1:16thing ever, you know? Yeah. I was excited when
- 1:19it came out and then I didn't really get to see
- 1:22it. So. You were still excited about it, though.
- 1:26I was still excited about it. It looked cool.
- 1:28The song has stuck with you. Probably because
- 1:33I saw it on a TikTok or something recently. That's
- 1:39the only reason why I remember it. Because it
- 1:42pops up on your TikTok occasionally. Yep. Well,
- 1:46I did at one point. Not anymore. Yeah, I haven't
- 1:48seen it in a hot minute, but it's definitely
- 1:51been there. Is this funny? Because, like, the
- 1:55video version of this podcast has better green
- 1:57screen effects than that whole movie did. And
- 1:59they had a budget. And we made 50 cents. But
- 2:03that was, like, what, early 2000s, too? Yeah.
- 2:07Can't complain. Like, pre -2010? What happened
- 2:12in 2010? Why is that, like, a benchmark? It's
- 2:16the mark of the decade. Oh. Yeah. Gotcha, gotcha,
- 2:21gotcha. Anywho, this is off to a great start.
- 2:25Going great. Going great. Dreams. I had the idea
- 2:28to talk about dreams. I think because a couple
- 2:31episodes ago, Brianna, you were talking about
- 2:34lucid dreaming, but how as soon as you started
- 2:38to lucid dream, you would always just wake up
- 2:41and get angry. Yeah. And I was like, I've never
- 2:45lucid dreamed. You guys... I didn't ask you this.
- 2:52Have you guys ever dreamed of ghosts? Yes. Or
- 2:57something. I don't know. Or can ghosts even...
- 3:03I mean, there's a lot we can talk about when
- 3:06talking about dreams. What do dreams mean? If
- 3:09they mean anything. You had that one really weird
- 3:12dream that one time that you woke up screaming.
- 3:15Should we talk about that? Yeah, if you want
- 3:17to talk about that. Okay, we can start talking
- 3:21about this story, but I want each of you to think
- 3:23about if you believe that ghosts can even communicate
- 3:27through dreams, and if you ever had any instances
- 3:31where you believe a ghost may have come to you
- 3:33in a dream, and or if you had any dreams that
- 3:36you think might have predicted the future or
- 3:39had greater meaning. I kind of had one before.
- 3:45Okay, so we'll go round robin here. I missed
- 3:48a really stupid one, too. Sorry, I thought my
- 3:52mic was unplugged. Oh, you had a stupid one.
- 3:54Okay, I can't wait to hear all this. The one
- 3:56that kind of predicted the future. Oh, yes. Okay,
- 3:59okay. We'll get to all this. But first, I believe
- 4:03you're talking about the dream I had. The dweller
- 4:09dream, right? In Old Angela? Yep. Okay, so I
- 4:13had this dream, and this was... About a week
- 4:16before our film called Dweller was going to screen
- 4:21in Eau Claire, Wisconsin in the Midwest Weird
- 4:23Fest, it ended up winning the best TV slash new
- 4:26media feature. I remembered it this time. But
- 4:29we were about to go down to Eau Claire to watch
- 4:32this film about this entity that we believe we
- 4:35encountered called the Dweller on the Threshold
- 4:36screen in front of a live audience who had a
- 4:40Q &A and everything. it wasn't really on on my
- 4:44mind at all i mean i knew we were going down
- 4:46there but it was just a normal night um you know
- 4:49normal work stuff didn't even start packing yet
- 4:52and i had this dream where we had broken into
- 4:58an abandoned like masonic temple to investigate
- 5:01and there was all these like really creepy drawings
- 5:05and like sketches and i woke up from the dream
- 5:09And it was like a dream within a dream type of
- 5:12thing, because I woke up in bed exactly how I
- 5:16was. You know, the room looked identical to how
- 5:19it normally is. I was dressed the same as I went
- 5:22to bed and everything, except I was still dreaming.
- 5:24I didn't know it. And in this dream, I was like,
- 5:28or what I thought was real life. I was like talking
- 5:31about this dream I had about the Masonic Temple
- 5:33and everything. And then I heard a noise from
- 5:37the kitchen. So I go out to investigate this
- 5:43noise that I heard in the kitchen. I thought,
- 5:45remember, I thought this was real life. So I
- 5:49can feel fear, which stood out to me because
- 5:51normally I don't feel anything when I dream.
- 5:54And I felt fear. I felt like someone was in the
- 5:57kitchen. I felt like something happened. We do
- 6:00have a pet snake, too. And once or twice she
- 6:04has escaped and, you know, ran amok. As much
- 6:08as a snake can run without legs, run amok and
- 6:11knock things over. So I had mixed feelings. I
- 6:14was like, is it the snake? Did someone break
- 6:16in? I was scared. I round the corner and I see
- 6:20in the threshold of like the hallway right adjacent
- 6:25from the kitchen, the darkest dark shadow figure.
- 6:30And I'm getting chills even almost a year later
- 6:32talking about it. The darkest dark figure like
- 6:36hovering. This was terrifying. This was terrifying.
- 6:41It was hovering. It was about maybe six inches
- 6:46off the ground. And it was the darkest dark.
- 6:49It looked like it was flowy. Not like a cape,
- 6:52per se, but flowy behind. And it was just dark.
- 6:56The darkest black I've ever seen. But I could
- 6:59tell, even though it was just a silhouette, I
- 7:01could tell it was staring at me. Did you say
- 7:05it had red eyes? I swear you said it had red
- 7:08eyes. I could get the sense of eyes. The sense
- 7:12of eyes, okay. But it didn't have eyes. And it
- 7:17was drawing me in, but I felt like I was going
- 7:21to die. It felt like this thing was trying to
- 7:23kill me. True fear. And then as I'm kind of drawing
- 7:28in closer, there's a jump scare moment when this
- 7:31old lady whips out in front of me from the kitchen.
- 7:36And, like, it was like she was just setting down,
- 7:38like, dishes or something. Like, she was the
- 7:40one making the noises. And I don't want to call
- 7:43her, like, an old hag, like an old lady hag.
- 7:46But she was, like, disheveled. Not from being,
- 7:49like, dirty or messy. But, like, it was like
- 7:52she, like, went on a fucking journey to get there.
- 7:55Like, she came through time. You know? Like,
- 7:58she's a time traveler. And she just embarked
- 8:02on this journey. And she was just in my face,
- 8:05blocking. this uh dark figure but she had an
- 8:10even stronger fear everything all the fear and
- 8:14all the everything i was feeling just got moved
- 8:17to this lady that was in my face and she was
- 8:19giving me this look and i could tell what the
- 8:20look was it was you know who i am don't you man
- 8:25i was just a whole time like who is this who
- 8:27is this and i realized i was looking at old angela
- 8:33like it sunk in like i knew it it was angela
- 8:36in her like 70s or 80s all disheveled coming
- 8:40out of time to come interrupt me break into my
- 8:44apartment in that moment and then i wake up but
- 8:48i wake up and i guess i was panting really loud
- 8:52yeah because angela had turned and her face in
- 8:56real life now was it the same place as old Angela
- 9:01was in my dream so when I woke up yeah there
- 9:03was no cut there's no cut at all between old
- 9:07Angela and then real Angela and I didn't know
- 9:10if I was dreaming still or not because remember
- 9:13I already woke up and I woke up again I thought
- 9:17everything was real yeah so you saw it was just
- 9:20another dream starting over no I didn't know
- 9:22what was happening I didn't even think it was
- 9:24another dream I was confused because I woke up
- 9:27even though I already woke up. Yeah, it was bad.
- 9:32He was panting and breathing really heavily so
- 9:38badly to the point I woke up and I rolled over
- 9:41to try to wake him up from his dream. When I
- 9:44rolled over, I was leaning up a little bit at
- 9:47him and then he not only I just You were just
- 9:55sleeping because he sleeps right on his back,
- 9:57on your back, Ben. You sleep right on your back,
- 9:59kind of like you're a mummy. But when I flipped
- 10:02over and I touched him to try to wake him up,
- 10:07he was up a little bit on his side, so he was
- 10:11facing me in my face. So that was really weird.
- 10:16We were both staring at each other. Yeah, we
- 10:18both were staring at each other. Just like the
- 10:20dream. So then when I woke up, I just started
- 10:24screaming, I guess. I didn't even know I was.
- 10:27And you screamed so loud. Like, I'm pretty sure
- 10:32we woke up our neighbors because I heard doors
- 10:35opening afterwards. And, like, it was so bad.
- 10:43I do believe that was... And another thing, too.
- 10:49before we went to bed I remember specifically
- 10:52because there's like the outside lights the street
- 10:55lights that kind of shine into our bedroom at
- 10:58night when it gets dark and I remember looking
- 11:02like towards the closet I'm like wow it's really
- 11:07dark in here because I didn't see no lights it
- 11:09was like dark dark you know and then you had
- 11:13that it's just really weird to think about honestly
- 11:18I don't like talking about that dream. It's just
- 11:21too creepy even now. I lived through it. I know
- 11:26you did too, Angela, but I saw. I do believe
- 11:30that's the only time I've had a dream where I
- 11:36don't think what happened was subconscious. Something
- 11:40happened with that dream, with that night. The
- 11:44environment changed. You saw it dark. um the
- 11:48fact that you lined we lined up and we're facing
- 11:51each other like jump cut moment like no change
- 11:55with your position how did that even happen the
- 11:59fact that i was screaming i don't even know it's
- 12:01like that was raw pure terror yeah i don't like
- 12:06that because the thing was like our apartment
- 12:09is that we keep all the creepy weird things Out
- 12:13here. We don't want any of that in our room.
- 12:15We want nice peaceful sleep when we sleep. And
- 12:19I don't like. Whatever the heck that was. Invaded
- 12:22our privacy. And I did not like it. So do you
- 12:29think. Boundaries with these ghosts. And I don't
- 12:31like it. When they intrude. In my time. Do you
- 12:37think ghosts can even. I know I asked this. Rhetorically
- 12:41but. Do you think ghosts can even or entities
- 12:44can even appear in your dreams? I don't know.
- 12:49I mean, those that black coat cloak thing. I
- 12:55think that was something an entity. I think that's
- 12:59the only time, though, that it's happened to
- 13:01me. I mean, it's hard to say, in my opinion,
- 13:05because I haven't had some sort of experience
- 13:07like this myself, nor do I want to. but you know
- 13:14dreaming is hard or understanding dreams is hard
- 13:18because it really is your subconscious most of
- 13:22the time so like did you go to bed after thinking
- 13:28something spooky or reading something spooky
- 13:30or did you just have something subconsciously
- 13:33on your mind like well it goes two ways on one
- 13:37hand we dream every night or at least i think
- 13:43we dream every night i don't know i usually don't
- 13:45remember my dreams um but anyways every night
- 13:48is an opportunity to dream and this is the one
- 13:54time that anything like this has happened but
- 13:58on the other hand every night we dream and who
- 14:03knows what we dream and we just don't remember
- 14:05you know does this dream happen often and i just
- 14:09don't know and this one night certain variables
- 14:12were right to where you have me be i mean would
- 14:16i have been is that like lucid did i actually
- 14:20have a lucid dream if i were you aware you were
- 14:24dreaming no i wasn't but i was yeah you're not
- 14:27aware you're dreaming it's not but i could feel
- 14:30things it felt like real life i can feel things
- 14:37In my dreams sometimes, sometimes if I'm. You
- 14:41do? Yeah. Like sometimes, once sometimes I, I
- 14:45had a dream that I hurt my leg and my leg was
- 14:50hurting my dream. I could actually feel it. And
- 14:52I woke up and my, my leg was cramping. And I
- 14:56think that's what I was feeling. You know what
- 14:58I mean? Like, I feel like you can feel things.
- 15:03Wow. Or do you ever have a dream, too, where
- 15:06it's like you're dreaming, but you really have
- 15:10to pee, and then you wake up, and you have to
- 15:13pee? Hasn't happened. Yes, yes. I feel like you
- 15:24can feel in your dreams sometimes. Okay. Maybe
- 15:27it's just a me thing, because I normally don't.
- 15:33Weird. Anyways, you predicted the future. I want
- 15:40to hear about this. There literally isn't too
- 15:44much to it. It was during that time frame where
- 15:47I was having visions of the most stupidest things
- 15:50in the world. And then it would happen in a few
- 15:53hours or the next day. It was during that time
- 15:57frame. And I was taking a nap on the couch. And
- 16:01I had a... It's not even really telling the future,
- 16:09but I had a dream about Vampire Diaries. Is that
- 16:13what it's called? Vampire Diaries? The show?
- 16:16The show, yeah. And I had never seen that show.
- 16:19I don't give a fuck about that show. I'd never
- 16:21seen it, never seen clips of it, but I had a
- 16:23dream about it. And then I woke up, and I went
- 16:28on TikTok, and the first TikTok that came up
- 16:30was... About Vampire Diaries. And that was like.
- 16:35A 10 minute video about Vampire Diaries. And
- 16:38I'm like what the fuck. Is this all about. I
- 16:42feel like. My dream predicted that TikTok. That
- 16:45was going to pop up. Sure. Because in my. So
- 16:54you're. This is what happens when you. Go on
- 16:57TikTok before bed. You stay on TikTok and you're.
- 17:01dreams no i wasn't really i don't think i was
- 17:04on it before it i don't know you say something
- 17:08like that and i was i was thinking you're gonna
- 17:11say something very profound um because like my
- 17:16sister and my mother have had more of like dreams
- 17:23that do predict the future to an extent Angela
- 17:29does too. What about Vampire Diaries? Vampire
- 17:36Diaries. If Vampire Diaries wasn't stupid enough,
- 17:40no offense. I've never seen it and I know it's
- 17:44stupid. It was a TikTok about Vampire Diaries.
- 17:47It was like twice removed. These are the psychics
- 17:54these days. predicting your next TikTok on your
- 17:59scroll. Back in the day, they had actual scrolls
- 18:03with prophecies. Now you have a TikTok scroll
- 18:06with vampire diaries. Oh, Lord have mercy. But
- 18:14no, I just remember that because I was having
- 18:18those other visions. at the time too and so i
- 18:23had that little stupid thing that happened i'm
- 18:25like great now this is another little stupid
- 18:28thing that i can't add to my stupid list of visions
- 18:30and i don't like it what was another vision didn't
- 18:33you have one about construction i've had i had
- 18:36two within like yeah so i i had one about construction
- 18:44And then I had one when we were out to eat of
- 18:48my teacher coming in and talking to me. And then
- 18:53she walked through the door and started talking
- 18:55to you. Walked through the door and started talking
- 18:56to me. Interesting. And then the other one for
- 19:02the listeners was you're like about to turn onto
- 19:04a road and you had a vision of construction on
- 19:07the road. That one was really interesting. So
- 19:10I was driving to class. And I went to that four
- 19:16-way stop that I always come across. Everyone
- 19:21knows what you're talking about. There's a lot
- 19:22of four -way stops, okay? I live in Lansing.
- 19:25There's a lot of four -way stops. That one four
- 19:27-way stop I like. There's this one four -way
- 19:30stop. It's your favorite four -way stop. It's
- 19:32the first four -way stop I come across. Yeah,
- 19:34and I was stopped at the red light, and I, like,
- 19:37started, like, what is it? Like, zoning out.
- 19:43kind of zoning out and was like, huh. You should
- 19:48not zone out when you're driving. Just talk about
- 19:51the construction zone though, right? Yeah, like
- 19:54it wasn't construction zone at the time. Oh,
- 19:57okay. So don't, I was trying to help you out.
- 20:00Don't discriminate. Don't zone out while driving.
- 20:02I was at a stop sign. I was at a stop light.
- 20:05Have you ever gone in a car crash? Okay, so what's
- 20:11happened? what what no no car crash talking right
- 20:19now but anyway i started zoning out i was like
- 20:23huh and i pictured i pictured cones plucking
- 20:28off What is happening right now? I'm trying to
- 20:37explain. She was zoning out. She was zoning out
- 20:41while driving. I pictured cones in the turning
- 20:47left lane. The left lane to turn left. And I
- 20:50pictured cones on there. And the other road being
- 20:57totally blocked off so you can't turn onto that
- 21:00road. And I was like, huh, I wonder how that
- 21:03works. What happens when someone needs to turn
- 21:05left? They can't turn left. How can that work?
- 21:07That was going through my mind at the time. I
- 21:10was thinking about what happens to the people
- 21:12who need to turn left on that road. They can't
- 21:15do it. They got to go a different way. And didn't
- 21:18think anything about it. The light turned green.
- 21:20Went back to class. Anyway, next day when I was
- 21:23going to class, guess what? There were cones
- 21:26up in that left turn lane and that whole road
- 21:30was blocked off. And there was construction going
- 21:32on. And no one could turn left, so. Can't explain
- 21:41that. Such a groundbreaking prophetic dream.
- 21:47I mean, I thought it was pretty damn interesting.
- 21:54It is. It's really straightforward. There's nothing
- 21:58to deconstruct. Deconstruct? And just, like,
- 22:04other little things like that, you know what
- 22:05I mean? Yeah. So... Um... What was the topic
- 22:16again? I think dreams. Dream, dream, dream, dream,
- 22:27dream, dream. Daydreaming while driving. Daydreaming
- 22:33while driving. Do you recommend? No, don't answer
- 22:35that. Brianna, have you had any profound or not
- 22:43so profound dreams? I've never had a profound
- 22:46dream in my life. Any dream that's relevant to
- 22:49this conversation? Any ghosts come through your
- 22:51dreams? I mean, I had that one time. I felt even
- 22:57compelled to message you guys about it. Because
- 23:00it was at the point when you guys had a lot of
- 23:03things going on in the apartment. And we had
- 23:06a lot of other things going on, like on investigations.
- 23:08And I had a dream that we were going to a location
- 23:16that we didn't actually end up going to. and
- 23:21it was it was just it was really weird because
- 23:24the entity there i don't remember what it it
- 23:30was specifically but i remember messaging you
- 23:33guys about it i'm like i feel like this is not
- 23:36a place we want to go and what was the place
- 23:39i don't i don't even remember Was it a real place
- 23:46or was this like a makeup place? No, no, I feel
- 23:49like it was a real place. Okay. I think in my
- 23:56dream it was... Oh my god. Was it Fairfield?
- 24:01Yeah. It was Fairfield? But I've never even been
- 24:05to Fairfield. I don't know what it looks like.
- 24:07Actually, I don't remember this dream or anything
- 24:11you're describing at all. But when you started
- 24:13talking, I don't. And I was just like, better
- 24:17not be Fairfield. Yeah, no, because in my dream,
- 24:20the entity there was some sort of hive mind.
- 24:23And whoever came to the place, kind of soul and
- 24:31body got trapped there. And yeah, I don't know.
- 24:39But like I said, I've never been to Fairfield.
- 24:41I don't know anything about the place or any
- 24:43of the history or any of the entities there.
- 24:45But I just had a weird dream and it was in that
- 24:48weird period of time where a lot of stuff was
- 24:50happening in our house. And to be clear, this
- 24:54is a really long story. We'll probably never
- 24:58go to Fairfield. And we will never tell why.
- 25:02We will never explain why. Oh, we will one day.
- 25:06not for right now no perhaps for right now all
- 25:11that is necessary to say is we were going to
- 25:14go to fairfield in july and um it was a really
- 25:19weird time um if you go and watch the possession
- 25:22tape it was the period of time where all that
- 25:26was filmed so the possession tape was like the
- 25:29month leading up to what was going to be our
- 25:32investigation of fairfield so that If you haven't
- 25:35seen that, just go watch it. It paints a better
- 25:37picture than I can attempt to try to describe.
- 25:39To a certain extent. To a certain extent. Describing
- 25:43too much. Describing too much. And then we were
- 25:47getting for a year, like, spirit box voices and
- 25:50EVPs saying, like, do a ritual in July. And that
- 25:54was our only investigation in July. And that
- 26:00was the plan for when we went to. fairfield in
- 26:03july allegedly but allegedly we had no idea about
- 26:06what any ritual would entail um i don't think
- 26:11there even was a plan for one we just knew there
- 26:13was going to be one while we were present um
- 26:16yeah but we decided in the end to not go we had
- 26:22other circumstances that arose um and we haven't
- 26:29heard anything to that ex in that extent since
- 26:34like that was pretty repetitive in your guys's
- 26:37investigations and stuff do a ritual in july
- 26:40i mean that was going on for like like probably
- 26:45a full year yeah full year at least yeah and
- 26:49when when thanks when the fairfield investigation
- 26:52fell through we all felt like it was just like
- 26:55a like something was protecting us from whatever
- 27:00was going to happen at Fairfield at least I was
- 27:03very nervous about that investigation and I didn't
- 27:05even know about that dream but that dream makes
- 27:07a lot of sense yeah I definitely told you guys
- 27:11about it she told us Ben because I also I think
- 27:13like a few days before my mom had also had a
- 27:17dream but she couldn't remember what it was and
- 27:20the only thing she could remember out of it was
- 27:23that I needed to tell you Ben specifically that
- 27:26you needed to watch out and be safe with what
- 27:31you were doing yeah and that was yeah so that's
- 27:39all i'll say about that yep we should do a podcast
- 27:44later um later down the road going more in depth
- 27:48on everything surrounding fairfield but that
- 27:51is very strange that you both had that dream
- 27:55and i do think To some extent, it was some sort
- 27:59of, if not premonition, some sort of warning.
- 28:03Since then, none of us have had any weird dreams,
- 28:08I would say, or weird premonitions in that sort
- 28:14of stance. I wonder why. Things that come across
- 28:18in our investigations. And yeah, that was like
- 28:22the one and only time that I'm like, oh, I'm
- 28:25dreaming of like... a haunted location and this
- 28:28is interesting and weird and i feel like i need
- 28:30to share it with everybody um like i feel like
- 28:35that only happened one other time but i can't
- 28:37even remember what it was about yeah i had a
- 28:40dream once i this was maybe six or seven years
- 28:46ago like way back in the beginning when we first
- 28:48started doing this i don't even like remember
- 28:51the dream but it was like a very vivid dream
- 28:55of a feeling the feeling yeah a very vivid dream
- 28:59of an investigation that we all went on and it
- 29:02was like a very scary investigation except this
- 29:05location doesn't exist like we never went there
- 29:07i can't even begin to describe it but like occasionally
- 29:11i can slip back into like if i if i don't know
- 29:15if the feeling is right if like the mood is right
- 29:18like if i'm in a certain mindset or maybe i'm
- 29:21The anniversary of this dream. I don't know.
- 29:23I don't know. Maybe that would have been in the
- 29:26future Fairfield that we never went to. It wasn't.
- 29:28It was like a wide open outdoor space. Maybe
- 29:30you do have a cemetery there, I think. But I
- 29:34this dream has has a certain I don't know. Sometimes
- 29:38I can tap into it and like remember bits of it.
- 29:42But it bothers me sometimes when I remember about
- 29:45it and I forgot about it. But then you reminded
- 29:47me. So I had kind of the opposite of like. a
- 29:52dream about an investigation that isn't a real
- 29:54place. Yeah. But like I said, I don't know if
- 29:57it was actually Fairfield or not. That's just
- 29:59the impression that I got. Yeah. I personally
- 30:07have no interest in investigating Fairfield just
- 30:10because of all this creepy stuff surrounding.
- 30:13I'd like to at least visit there just because
- 30:16I never have. I think it would be interesting
- 30:20to see the place. Yeah. Actually investigating
- 30:25it kind of might... I don't know. I'd still be
- 30:30open to investigating it now with how we come
- 30:35into investigations now compared to even what
- 30:38we did a year ago. I feel like we'd be more apt
- 30:45to... be able to handle anything that we come
- 30:50across and but i don't know so i mean maybe we
- 30:57will someday i mean yeah maybe we will someday
- 30:59but we're constantly growing we're constantly
- 31:01changing you never know if we do it'll be like
- 31:04in the dead of winter like nowhere near nowhere
- 31:07near july because like i i feel like do you guys
- 31:14like before investigation sometimes like like
- 31:16try to picture like what's gonna happen or like
- 31:19think about okay so in any of your fairfield
- 31:23like daydreams did you ever think like 20 degrees
- 31:27winter jackets no okay so that's why we're gonna
- 31:31go in winter if we do end up going that sounds
- 31:34really freaking cold okay well at least what
- 31:38happened our souls got stuck there yeah If that's
- 31:46the alternative. I could say so much more about
- 31:51it, but yeah. Because I'd probably end up partaking
- 31:55in this ritual. So we won't go to Fairfield and
- 31:59we won't do it. No, we might go to Fairfield,
- 32:02but we won't do a ritual there. I mean, rituals
- 32:06are all... I'm not anti -ritual. I'm actually
- 32:09very pro -ritual. I love rituals. We do rituals
- 32:12often, but... rituals need to have clear directions
- 32:18and intent. And if the intent is clearly laid
- 32:23out at the beginning of this is what I'm doing,
- 32:24this is what I'm hoping to achieve with this
- 32:28ritual, I am going to explain what I'm doing
- 32:31and why I'm doing it throughout. It needs to
- 32:34have clear intent. Clear intent and direction.
- 32:38There's nothing wrong with that. I can't picture
- 32:41a ritual... That ends with your souls getting
- 32:45stuck at a location you've never been to until
- 32:48that night. Having clear intent or directions.
- 32:52Or good intent. So, that's why I would be against
- 32:57that specific ritual. But, anyways, this is all
- 33:00conjecture. This never happened. There is no
- 33:03ritual that we know of. This is all in the dreamscape.
- 33:05We don't know if it's real or not. Like I said,
- 33:09I never saw... You're dreaming right now. This
- 33:10isn't even a real podcast episode. Sorry. Sandwich
- 33:24layer? What's the topic again? Sandwiches? Yeah,
- 33:31okay. Are we on the cheese layer right now and
- 33:35the cheese layer is... Us dreaming this right
- 33:37now? And the pickle on top is us going to Fairfield.
- 33:50You broke my brain, Brianna. Or is it the toothpick
- 33:52that goes through the center of the sandwich?
- 33:55That, maybe too. That's the thing that connects
- 33:58all the layers together. It's the toothpick.
- 34:01That's my masonic sword going through all of
- 34:03your souls. That. Oh, you know those sandwiches
- 34:09you get with the little plastic swords instead
- 34:11of toothpicks? Yeah. That's what I'm envisioning,
- 34:14except it's the Masonic sword. Oh, I like that.
- 34:20I'm sorry I broke you, Ben. It's okay. It's been,
- 34:24what, like, nine episodes? Something like that?
- 34:28It was bound to happen. It was bound to happen.
- 34:31I thought it was going to be a fun episode about
- 34:34dreams. Yeah, you're like, yeah, let's do dreams.
- 34:38It's going to be a fun, silly, goofy topic and
- 34:40not too hard and heavy. No, I knew this one would
- 34:46have been, would have had a good, could have
- 34:49a good. You're broken too. I am broken. We're
- 34:55all broken together. It is a good one. I'm saying
- 34:59that this could go on and on and on. Like a recurring
- 35:04dream. Yeah, there's a lot of different things
- 35:08to talk about. Like a multi -cheese sandwich.
- 35:11Yeah. Can't let the mozzarella. Or mac and cheese.
- 35:18Yeah. Any final statements on dreams? No. Dream,
- 35:25dream, dream, dream, dream, dream. Thanks for
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