Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 122. Who is Arnie Roth in Marvel Comics?!
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- 0:18Hi guys, it's Megan with vigilante vibes and today I'm
- 0:21coming to you with another character breakdown that will be
- 0:23on theme for Pride Month. Also, happy Pride Month to those
- 0:26who celebrate. So the character I want to talk
- 0:30about today is a very unknown character.
- 0:34If you if you're not a big comic reader, then you wouldn't really
- 0:38know about him. But he plays such a big role.
- 0:41Like just so unknown. I am talking about none other
- 0:43than Arnie Roth. Arnie Roth is a gay best friend
- 0:47of Steve Rogers, Captain America.
- 0:49Something to note about Arnie. Arnie's back story with Steve
- 0:52was merged into Bucky for the MCU.
- 0:55Originally, Bucky was a random teenage sidekick and the kid
- 0:59that was standing up to bullies for Steve and who served with
- 1:02him in World War 2. That was Arnie.
- 1:05So keep that in mind if you ever read the comics and think to
- 1:08yourself how different Bucky is to the MCU.
- 1:12So Arnie Roth was a neighborhood buddy of young Steve Rogers
- 1:16before he became Captain America.
- 1:18Back then, Arnie often stood up for the scrawny Steve when the
- 1:22local bullies picked on him, which happened a lot after
- 1:25Steve's mom, Sarah Rogers, passed away.
- 1:27The two of them snuck into the cemetery with some daisies and
- 1:30Arnie said the Kaddish prayer at her grave.
- 1:35Arnie is also Jewish. For those who don't know.
- 1:39During World War 2, Arnie joined the Navy and served in the
- 1:42Pacific. While he was there, he met
- 1:44Captain America, and even though Steve had gone through a huge
- 1:47physical change thanks to the Super Soldier Serum, Arnie
- 1:50somehow recognized him. But since Steve's secret
- 1:53identity was still under wraps, Arnie kept it to himself.
- 1:57While in the Navy, Arnie also fell in love with another sailor
- 2:01named Michael Beck. After getting discharged without
- 2:04veteran benefits because of his sexuality, Arnie and Michael
- 2:08settled down in San Francisco's Castro District and built a life
- 2:12together. Years later, when it was
- 2:14discovered that Captain America was still alive, Arnie
- 2:17reconnected with Steve and told him he'd always suspected he was
- 2:21the real Cap Steve even helped Arnie rescue Michael when he got
- 2:24kidnapped. Sadly, Michael was kidnapped
- 2:27again with Arnie later on and was killed during attack by
- 2:31Zemo. Arnie stuck around for a while
- 2:33helping Captain America with his computer hotline.
- 2:37Eventually Arnie passed away from cancer.
- 2:40In his honor, the Arnie Roth Community Center was set up in
- 2:44Manhattan to support queer folks in the community.
- 2:46In his honor, the gay Captain America, Aaron Fisher, who I
- 2:52most recently was in Marvel United the Pride special, which
- 2:56is also it's really good. So you guys got check that out.
- 3:01That's where was I. Oh, the gay Captain America.
- 3:04Aaron Fisher even met his current fling Mysteriants, which
- 3:08is like Mysterio's second cousin or something, while Mysteriant
- 3:12was attending an HIV Plus support group.
- 3:16It was even revealed in The Avengers Academy Infinity comic.
- 3:20I thought this was also where D man Dennis Dunphy, another gay
- 3:24friend of Caps, held his support group for transmutants.
- 3:28But that was actually at the Matt Baker house.
- 3:30That one debuted in Marvel's Voices Pride in from 20/22 and
- 3:35is named after one of Marvel's writers.
- 3:38Fun fact, Arnie was actually a part of Marvel Comics first gay
- 3:42couple all the way back in 1982. That's the year Arnie and
- 3:47Michael debuted in the pages of a Captain America comic.
- 3:51So there you have it. Cap has been an ally from the
- 3:54beginning. Arnie was the OG gay character,
- 3:57and somehow people can really say with their whole chest that
- 4:02comics haven't always been woke. Bless your hearts.
- 4:08So now that we are done with the blessing of the hearts, and I'm
- 4:11telling you all these things as usual, I have comics for you to
- 4:14check out Arnie and read about his story because he's a good
- 4:17character. Arnie first appeared in Captain
- 4:21America #268, so you can check that out.
- 4:26Captain America 270, Captain America #279, Captain America
- 4:35#428, Captain America #443 Avengers Academy.
- 4:43Marvel Voices Infinity comic #21 Avengers Academy Marvel voices
- 4:49Infinity comic #24 Captain America #296 If you want to see
- 4:57blatant racism in Marvel Comics not from Marvel I mean, but the
- 5:02homophobia that Arnie experienced.
- 5:06Steve Rogers childhood friend Arnie was brainwashed by Steve's
- 5:11enemies, humiliating himself and all because well, he was forced
- 5:16to humiliate himself all because he was gay.
- 5:20It's it's a sad read. And you can also check out Steve
- 5:25and Arnie story retold and Marvel United a pride special
- 5:29number one that went out this past week.
- 5:32So I hope you enjoyed this character breakdown.
- 5:35I hope you learned something and I hope your pride month is going
- 5:40amazing. So with that being said, have a
- 5:42marvelous day.