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POTB 534: Observations from IU basketball's first Puerto Rico exhibition with Josh Pos · Podcast on the Brink

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to a new episode of Podcasts on the
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  Speaker 1: Brink Thursday morning, August seventh. Indiana victorious on Wednesday night
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  Speaker 1: and it's exhibition opener down in Puerto Rico. Josh Post
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  Speaker 1: of Inside the Hall is on the scene for us.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be actually your first introduction to Josh hereon
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  Speaker 1: podcast on the Brink. But if you've been follow on
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  Speaker 1: the site for the last what month or so, been
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  Speaker 1: writing some football content and getting going strong now with
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  Speaker 1: basketball as well. Really happy to have Josh part the team.
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  Speaker 1: Also happy to have him down in Puerto Rico. Before
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  Speaker 1: we get to the show, I just want to ask
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  Speaker 1: We really appreciate that, Josh. It was not a close
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  Speaker 1: game obviously last night, but first look at well, second look,
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  Speaker 1: we can count the open practice that we were at
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  Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, but you know, first look, in
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  Speaker 1: terms of game action for Indiana basketball on Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 1: what was what were your impressions from the game and
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  Speaker 1: just big picture takeaways.
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  Speaker 2: I think it started right up. First of all, I'm Josh,
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  Speaker 2: nice to meet everybody. I'm glad to be on inside
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  Speaker 2: the hall this year. I'm a senior. But my first
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  Speaker 2: impression was right when we got to the stadium alex
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  Speaker 2: It was full warm ups from the get go. Usually
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  Speaker 2: last year we saw just shooting around till about the
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  Speaker 2: forty five minute mark. No, there were drills going on
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  Speaker 2: all the way up until Indiana went back to their
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  Speaker 2: bench with about a minute left on the clock. So
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  Speaker 2: that was a start right there. You could feel something
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  Speaker 2: new was there, and then the game there was just
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  Speaker 2: an intensity despite playing what I believe people called the
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  Speaker 2: equivalent of an NAIA team, the intensity from the jump,
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  Speaker 2: from not only the starters but the guys that came
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  Speaker 2: off the bench. The big picture, the score didn't matter
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  Speaker 2: in this game. It was what you saw from individual
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  Speaker 2: players and how they came together as a team, and
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  Speaker 2: I really liked what I saw. Obviously, it was August sixth,
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  Speaker 2: so it's gonna be hard to make any predictions based
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  Speaker 2: off an August sixth game exhibition in Puerto Rico, but
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  Speaker 2: overall very good defensively and turning rebounds into fast break layups.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously I only saw the video that you posted
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  Speaker 1: in some other video highlights that were on social media,
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  Speaker 1: But having kind of been on one of these trips
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  Speaker 1: of four back all the way back in twenty fourteen
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  Speaker 1: up to Montreal, I can remember going to five different venues,
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  Speaker 1: I think, in six days watching Indiana play exhibition games.
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  Speaker 1: Not a lot of fans made that trip. I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking that there might be a stronger contingent of IU
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  Speaker 1: fans down at this destination because it's obviously a beach
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  Speaker 1: and it's the time of year where people would like
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  Speaker 1: to go on vacation and get away and get in
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  Speaker 1: the sun. Kind of similar to twenty twenty one when
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  Speaker 1: they went down to the Bahamas and played a couple
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  Speaker 1: of games. But just from judging what I saw on
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  Speaker 1: the background of the videos and just the atmosphere, didn't
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  Speaker 1: look like there was a strong contingent of fans down there.
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  Speaker 1: Was that surprising at all? Anyway, What did you kind
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  Speaker 1: of expect going in and how did that match up
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  Speaker 1: with reality of what you actually saw in terms of atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: I expected a little bit more, but then I realized
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  Speaker 2: after talking to Zach Osterman, that school has started in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Indiana, so it's hard for people to
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  Speaker 2: bring their kids down for a family vacation. To make
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  Speaker 2: it an Indiana basketball family vacation. There are a couple
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  Speaker 2: sprinkled in there. It was a lot of varsity club members.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: There was an event for them with food and drinks,
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  Speaker 2: and they kind of went to the to the court
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  Speaker 2: side seats and then people filed behind. I think from
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  Speaker 2: what I could hear, when a guy would score, there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of cheering. There were families that came
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  Speaker 2: as well, made that a family vacation as well, families
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  Speaker 2: of players that came, but really an empty gym with
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  Speaker 2: the only energy coming from the Indiana players. You from
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  Speaker 2: your vantage.
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  Speaker 1: Point, you were just a little bit elevated up in
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  Speaker 1: the just up in the stands, like within the regular seats.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we had regular seats and we had a regular ticket.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I had it on me right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were. You were multitasking very well there. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to point out everybody if people had asked this
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  Speaker 1: kind of what to expect in terms of the coverage,
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  Speaker 1: Josh was keeping stats, which he pointed out to me
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  Speaker 1: before we hit record that he was upset that he
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  Speaker 1: missed a couple rebounds and assists. But we did get
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  Speaker 1: a fit. We didn't no, I think before the game
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  Speaker 1: that we were going to get official stats, So I
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  Speaker 1: know you wanted to keep those just to kind of
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  Speaker 1: have an idea of something to go off when you
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  Speaker 1: were writing. But you're also holding your phone trying to
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  Speaker 1: get as many video clips as possible in addition to
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  Speaker 1: posting updates on social media. So good job there. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get just some of your thoughts on players. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I want to caveat all of this with this was
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  Speaker 1: August six, This was an exhibition game. This was an
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  Speaker 1: over clearly overmatched opponent. But I think we can at
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  Speaker 1: least glean some observations from just what you saw in
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  Speaker 1: terms of players and maybe some style of play things
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  Speaker 1: in terms of how things were running offensive and defensively.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to start with Trent Sisley, who you
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  Speaker 1: wrote about for this morning on Inside the Hall. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Trent's a name that a lot of people are familiar
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  Speaker 1: with because he was recruited for quite a long time
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  Speaker 1: by the previous coaching staff signed with Indiana under Mike Woodson,
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  Speaker 1: the coaching change happens. He is solid as you can
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  Speaker 1: be with the program, sticks sticks it out. Is obviously
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  Speaker 1: now a freshman on campus. Spent last season at Montvert
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  Speaker 1: Academy down in Florida after playing his first three years
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  Speaker 1: of Heritage Chills, and I think, just from talking to
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  Speaker 1: Trent in the spring, really used that year down in
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  Speaker 1: Florida as a development year in terms of getting an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to work in an atmosphere that's much more college
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  Speaker 1: like than what he would have had back at Heritage
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  Speaker 1: Chills and play against the national schedule. They traveled around
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  Speaker 1: the country, played a lot of great teams, and while
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  Speaker 1: his stats didn't jump off you know the paper when
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  Speaker 1: you looked at him from a senior season, definitely showed
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  Speaker 1: some growth. Shot the three ball really well. Is last
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  Speaker 1: year of high school, and it looks like that translated
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  Speaker 1: to last night's game where he went three for three
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  Speaker 1: from deep, but started a little bit slow, but once
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  Speaker 1: he got into the swing of things, played really well.
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  Speaker 1: Was Indians leading score last night. Got to talk to
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  Speaker 1: the media. Don't see that very often for a freshman
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  Speaker 1: in their first college action. So just you your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on Trent how he looked, And obviously I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to look into projections in terms of how much well
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  Speaker 1: he played, but do he look the part of a
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  Speaker 1: guy that can maybe help Indiana the season.
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  Speaker 2: He not only looked a part of a guy that
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  Speaker 2: could help Indiana this season, he could be a guy
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  Speaker 2: that leads Indiana at some point, maybe not the entire season.
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  Speaker 2: And again it's August seventh as we record this right now,
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  Speaker 2: but he got off to that slow start, but then
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  Speaker 2: hit that first layup off a great feed, and then
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  Speaker 2: the next possession after a defensive stop or right wing three,
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  Speaker 2: didn't even graze the rim, and it was game on
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  Speaker 2: from there. He think he came out late in that
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  Speaker 2: first half, and then in the second half he exploded.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was sixteen second half points. He made
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  Speaker 2: both of his threes, six to nine from twos, He
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  Speaker 2: was seventy five percent overall. He had the most field goals,
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  Speaker 2: and he didn't just dominate offensively. He was a presence defensively.
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  Speaker 2: And it's hard to be the four at his size
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  Speaker 2: in the Big Ten play in college basketball. He had
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  Speaker 2: no issue with that against this team that probably didn't
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  Speaker 2: have it. They didn't have a guy that was over
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  Speaker 2: six foot four, So Indians Biggs had everything going for them,
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  Speaker 2: but Trent Sisley sharing the ball, rebounding the basketball, defensively,
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  Speaker 2: and in most importantly offensive explosion in game one, and
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  Speaker 2: Darren DeVries said, that's a pretty high bar. He said it,
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  Speaker 2: but it's good to have confidence for the freshman.
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  Speaker 1: As far as Lamar Wilkerson goes, I didn't pay too
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  Speaker 1: much attention in terms of his final stat line. I
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  Speaker 1: looked more at the fact that the amount of attempts
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  Speaker 1: that he got up, which was I think over ten.
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe he took don't have it right in
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  Speaker 1: front of me. Let's see thirteen threes, So he was
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  Speaker 1: three for thirteen on threes. I don't think we've ever
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  Speaker 1: in the last eight seasons of Indiana basketball seen a
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  Speaker 1: player take thirteen threes in a game. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that's what he's going to do on a regular basis,
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  Speaker 1: but I can see him getting up seven or eight
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  Speaker 1: a game pretty regularly. Didn't obviously make the percentage that
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  Speaker 1: he would like to. But just what were your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on Lamar Seeing him last night live and going up
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  Speaker 1: and down, And we know he's a talented scorer. We
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  Speaker 1: know there was a reason that a lot of schools
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  Speaker 1: wanted them. Indiana was fortunate to get his commitment back
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  Speaker 1: in the spring. But seems like he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a big piece of the puzzle this season for the Hoosiers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was trying to shoot himself out of this
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  Speaker 2: slump early on and was putting up good shots but
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  Speaker 2: not the right shot in a Darren Devriez offense. But
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  Speaker 2: what led me to be excited about Lamar was his
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  Speaker 2: defensive intensity. Despite his shooting, it never wavered. So when
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  Speaker 2: Wilkerson he's on the floor with Connorway and en Right,
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  Speaker 2: there was never a point where the opponent's guard was
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  Speaker 2: not harassed by one of the three of them, and
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  Speaker 2: it was really impressive to see that the offensive struggles
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  Speaker 2: didn't bleed over it onto the defensive end. So Darren
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  Speaker 2: de Freese said, I'd love for him to shoot twenty
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  Speaker 2: shots game. If he goes two of twenty, I'm alright
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  Speaker 2: with it because the next game he might most likely
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  Speaker 2: will go eighteen of twenty. So I think that his
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  Speaker 2: defensive intensity kept him afloat despite a three or thirteen performance,
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  Speaker 2: and he only shot one two point field goal, he's
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  Speaker 2: oh for one.
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  Speaker 1: Teyton Connorway, I know your messages in me a little
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  Speaker 1: bit throughout the game with someone I think that impressed you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I watched a lot of film on him
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  Speaker 1: back in the spring, and he really just stood out
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  Speaker 1: as a guy that can control the game really on
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  Speaker 1: both ends in terms of how he facilitates, but also
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  Speaker 1: defensively kind of spearheading things in terms of ball pressure. Again,
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  Speaker 1: can't take a lot out of a game where Indiana
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  Speaker 1: wins by fifty one points. But with Taytan Connorway, I
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  Speaker 1: know you were impressed with some things. What stood out
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  Speaker 1: with him and what makes him somebody that Indiana fans
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  Speaker 1: should be excited about heading into the season.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, his three point shooting. His increased
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  Speaker 2: significantly over the summer. He said, he's been working really
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  Speaker 2: hard on it. He was three for three yesterday and
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  Speaker 2: or sorry, three for or one for one. He made
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  Speaker 2: us loan three. I was thinking of Trent Sisley. I apologize,
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  Speaker 2: but his defensive effort on every single play. Indiana was
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  Speaker 2: up by twenty at one point and there was not
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  Speaker 2: an inch of room. I said it last week when
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  Speaker 2: we were watching the practice to someone he might be
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  Speaker 2: in the running for Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.
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  Speaker 2: There is not a lack of effort at all. There's
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  Speaker 2: diving for loose balls. There was going into the stands
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  Speaker 2: for a loose ball, diving on the floor, and it
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  Speaker 2: was just an all around effort. He played twenty one
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  Speaker 2: minutes and I was impressed every single step of the way.
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  Speaker 1: Another guy that didn't shoot particularly well, but kind of
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  Speaker 1: stuff the statue. Tucker to Reese plays twenty minutes, obviously
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  Speaker 1: coming off of a season enning injury. Go scores nine points,
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  Speaker 1: but eight rebounds, seven assists, three steals. Kind of did
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, I mean, and that's necessary,
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  Speaker 1: that should necessarily be surprising. Two time player of the
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  Speaker 1: Year in the Missouri Valley Conference. You look at his
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  Speaker 1: rebounding and assist numbers when he back when he was
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  Speaker 1: at Drake, they were always pretty strong. And I think
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  Speaker 1: on this Indiana team, he's going to have to do
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. We know that the front
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  Speaker 1: court isn't going to be overwhelming in terms of size.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna have to be a guy that rebounds the
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  Speaker 1: ball effectively. But the thing I like there is the
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  Speaker 1: is the assist numbers, because that tells me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's looked at as a guy that can go out
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  Speaker 1: and score twenty five in the game. But when he's
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  Speaker 1: being unselfish and moving the ball, I think for Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: that's a really good sign. And that's just the kind
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  Speaker 1: of player I think from from watching Tucker, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit last year at West Virginia and then
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  Speaker 1: obviously going back to his days at Drake, he was
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  Speaker 1: a kind of a household name in college basketball. People
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  Speaker 1: knew him was one of the best mid major players.
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  Speaker 1: But his versatility in terms of not just being able
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  Speaker 1: to shoot but also facilitate with others has to be
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  Speaker 1: something that should be a positive as Indiana prepares for
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  Speaker 1: its first season in or Darien Devrez.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, it didn't jump out on a
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  Speaker 2: stat sheet, but the way he played in his defense,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep harping on defense, but everything was
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  Speaker 2: spilling over. He was great in transition. I think there
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  Speaker 2: was three alleops that he threw. I think Indiana committed
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  Speaker 2: on three of four alleops. One was taking Connorway throwing
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  Speaker 2: one off the backboard for Sam Alexis, who wasn't ready
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  Speaker 2: for it. All around funny moment. He missed it, got
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  Speaker 2: it back. But Devrees is great in transition. He might
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  Speaker 2: not look the part as a guy that can really
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  Speaker 2: push the pace just with his size in his build,
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  Speaker 2: but as soon as Indiana got on in transition, it
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  Speaker 2: was Tucker Devrez that was leading the charge and trying
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  Speaker 2: to get his teammates open. It was the extra pass
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  Speaker 2: he was driving to the lane and a kickout to
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  Speaker 2: someone in the corner for an open three. Lamar Wilkerson
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  Speaker 2: usually would make that shot, didn't yesterday, but it was
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  Speaker 2: really impressive to see the ball movement led by Debrees
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  Speaker 2: to get an open look. Could go for the layup sometime,
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  Speaker 2: but with the open guy in the corner, especially an
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  Speaker 2: exhibition game, you want to you want to test things out.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times in a game like this, players
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  Speaker 1: will revert to maybe some bad habits and kind of
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  Speaker 1: it'll it'll it'll turn into kind of like a pickup
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  Speaker 1: game where you know things are just happening and that
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  Speaker 1: it's clear the other team can't stop them, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's easy to take the the chance and take
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  Speaker 1: a bad shot or something like that. Was Indiana pretty
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  Speaker 1: focused and kind of organized throughout the game, or was
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  Speaker 1: there any point where it got to be kind of
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to call it an NBA All Star
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  Speaker 1: Game exhibition type up and down, but was in was
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  Speaker 1: Indiana continuing to run its offense and staying organized throughout
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 2: Up until about the sixth minute mark of the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana was running sets the entire time. They were slowing
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  Speaker 2: it down mostly in the second half. The first quarter
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  Speaker 2: was a bit competitive, nothing out of the ordinary for
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  Speaker 2: a game like this, but they went into sets and
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  Speaker 2: UCB went into a zone like a ball press. It's
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  Speaker 2: not going to be the best one ever in Indiana
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  Speaker 2: broke it at ease, but they really tried to run
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  Speaker 2: their stuff. They're out of bound set where baseline out
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  Speaker 2: of bound sets were set plays. They weren't just trying
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  Speaker 2: to find there was two guys wide open under the basket.
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  Speaker 2: They still ran the play that last seven minutes. It
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  Speaker 2: was rough to watch. I am not gonna lie. There
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  Speaker 2: were guys that should not have been on the floor
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  Speaker 2: together and I'm not talking Indiana players. It was. It
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  Speaker 2: got ugly at times.
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  Speaker 1: Just just the other team in terms of who they
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  Speaker 1: had out there. It was just a complete mismatch. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously it's a fifty one point game. I'm just it
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  Speaker 1: was it is it from the same point that they
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  Speaker 1: just had no business being on the court with Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like Naia bench players against Trent Sisley
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  Speaker 2: and Indiana's depth players. It wasn't like there was walk
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  Speaker 2: ons on the floor. Ian Stevens saw the floor in
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  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. But it was a complete mismatch.
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  Speaker 1: What about Reed Bailey and Sam Alexis. Obviously both of
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  Speaker 1: those guys had some strong stats, some strong games, and
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  Speaker 1: you can't really tell a lot. You mentioned that they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have much size, so we don't know how this
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  Speaker 1: is going to translate. We're gonna get a better idea
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  Speaker 1: of that against uh coming into the weekend games against
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Serbia team on Saturday and again on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: I think that'll be a better test of what the
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  Speaker 1: front court looked like. But it seemed like Sam Alexis
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  Speaker 1: and Reed Bailey both played pretty well in their first
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  Speaker 1: time in an IU uniform.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sam Alexis, a lot of his looks were just
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  Speaker 2: open dump offs for a dunk, but he was rebounding
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  Speaker 2: the basketball, he was boxing out. It was an impressive
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  Speaker 2: sight to see. But as for Reed Bailey, I was
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  Speaker 2: thoroughly impressed with the way he started the second and
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  Speaker 2: the third quarter. He cannot only get a rebound, but
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  Speaker 2: if there's no one open for an outlet, he's willing
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  Speaker 2: to take the ball up the court himself. And last
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  Speaker 2: year we saw it with Malik Renew. It is a
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  Speaker 2: complete one point eighty. There's actual ball handling skills and
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  Speaker 2: he's comfortable taking it. He went coast to coast off
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  Speaker 2: of a rebound, dished it off, drew a foul, and
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  Speaker 2: it was very nice to see a positionless when he
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: was on the floor, positionless offense. When Reed Bailey was
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: on the floor, he was out and he didn't shoot
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a three, didn't attempt to three, so you don't really
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: have anything there. But he was active at for ninety
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: four feet and it was impressive to me to see
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: a guy with sighs not just take advantage of the
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: size against a team like this. He was working out
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: what he needed to work on and got ten points
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and eight rebounds, So I was impressed.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: With him in terms of some of the other guys
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: just just quickly going through Jo High miles it and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: seemed like he shot the ball particularly well last night.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Struggled a bit with that. Connor en Wright started, played
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: seventeen minutes, only score two points. But we know in
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: terms of stats, you know, Dan Derives talked a little
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: bit about that he might not be a guy that
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the stats ever jump out, but the little things, the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: intangibles that he brings are always going to be part
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of the deal with him. And then Josh Harris played
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: gets a double double in fifteen minutes, thirteen points, ten rebounds.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Kind of look at him right now, is one of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the guys maybe a little bit lower down in the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: rotation when you look at the depth chart, but I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: think it's a good thing for him to get those
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: minutes and play well. And then Alexa Restitch gets some
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: some minutes. We didn't know for sure as of last
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: week if he was going to even be on this trip.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: He gets in to Bloomington late last week, score six points,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: goes three or six from the field. You know, just
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: kind of touched on each of those guys a little
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: bit in terms of what you saw. You can start
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: with Miles and then if you need a reminder on
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: any of the guys, I know three four guys at
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you there, but hopefully we can just get a brief
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: rundown on the four of those guys and what you saw.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Josi Miles had his struggles yesterday, not only on
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: offense but defense. The coaching staff was imploring him get
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: in the gap. That was the big thing at practice
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: last week is getting in the gap. And they were
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: really yelling at Josh Harris for the majority of last
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: week's practice that we saw, But Josi Miles was It
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: seemed a little bit disjointed out there. In his first game.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It just couldn't get anything going. Got an easy bucket
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: late to be the last of the players to score.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I think all eleven scored for Indiana. As for Connor
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: and Wright, looking at a stat sheet doesn't really do
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: anything for me when it comes to him. I've seen
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: him play for multiple years now, dating back to high school,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and it's not going to be a stat sheet filling
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: night every single night for him. He'll have those games.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I think the zero of two from three he's taking
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: two to three, two to four threes per game would
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: be fine in a Darren DeVries offense. He decided to
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: avoid going for a layup at one point. It was
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: wide open layup on for the three as is, as
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you do in an exhibition game. But he's going to
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: be someone that does all the intangibles in a game
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: against a competitive team. It's really hard to get going
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: in that aspect as that kind of player, as a
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: glue guy kind of player against a team. In August
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: from Puerto Rico, Josh Harris, I think it was the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: next name that you mentioned, correct, all right. It was
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: one of those games where I think eighty five percent
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: of those ninety percent of those points and rebounds came
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: in the second half. But he was using his size
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: to his advantage in getting buckets and was a fairly
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: efficient six of nine from the field with those ten rebounds.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: One of two Hoosiers with a double double, like you said,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: probably lower on the depth chart, but a confidence boost,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: kind of like Trent Sisley and then Restitch. We had
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: no idea if he was gonna play. He's wearing the
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: number twenty one, even though on the roster his jersey's
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: number thirteen. That's how new he is to the team.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But he was pretty good. He didn't really jump out
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: necessarily in his nearly seventeen minutes on the floor, but
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: just being there watching him warm up. I know I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: accidentally posted a video of him missing a layup. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: you win some, you lose some, but his warm up routine,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I've seen that many threes made
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: in a row, so there is potential. And another thing is, sorry,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: go back to the warm ups. Those weren't open looks
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that they were taking. They were contested. There was a
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: big emphasis on contested threes during warm ups instead of
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: just shooting around just to shoot.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: The other thing I noticed was from one of the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: videos that you put in the highlights, which you don't
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: usually see video of the bench in a highlight REROLD,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: but I thought it was interesting that you put that
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in there. There was obviously a reason you did in
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: terms of the fact that this was I don't know
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: how many people were there, A couple hundred maybe, is
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that is that? If that's that, yeah, okay, so you're
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you're playing a game on August sixth, that doesn't count
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: for anything in Puerto Rico in front of less than
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a couple hundred people. You're beating this team pretty convincingly
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and the benches or I don't know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: exactly when that clip was it was, it seemed to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: be in the second half. The bench was up, cheering.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Everything was that like an consistent thing in terms of
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the energy. I mean, that's what we saw in the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: open practice last week. Was basically from the minute those
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: guys jumped came into the gym, it was clapping. It
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: was everyone in constant movement, Everyone had a role, everyone
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: was doing something. And when I saw the video that
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you showed last night of the bench, that's instantly what
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: popped into my mind. It was there was nobody sitting down.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: They were all cheering, they were all engaged, And to me,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that's kind of how things need to be in terms
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of this team, because they're not going to go out
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: there and win every game just based on the talent.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: There's not a ton of NBA guys on this team.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: But in terms of the camaraderie and the energy and
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the togetherness that they showed, to me, that's a good
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: sign that the bench is interacting that way in a
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: game that really means nothing.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: In early August, yeah, it wasn't the entire game that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: they were standing, but everything good that would happened to
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: made basket. There was energy not only from the players
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: but the coaching staff. They were really trying to push
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: energy and the camaraderie. You saw it in that video
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that Indiana posted. I think that was Tuesday, when they
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: were touring around Old San Juan. I was talking with someone,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: this team is so tight knit already here in August in.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: This trip was meant for them to all get together
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and become a unit. And then from those last eight
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: weeks of practice that we've heard about to yesterday's game,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you could see that this team was closer than teams
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: in years past. And like you said, they're not gonna
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: win based off talent alone. It's gonna be willing themselves
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to victories, willing each other to victory. But that video
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I posted, because it was a forty five point game
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: at the time, it was in the fourth quarter and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: you had bench players in. You had to walk on in,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and every single starter, including the guys that were also
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: on the bench, were standing up and doing defense chance
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: for their teammates. And that's a very good sign because
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: it's so easy, especially on a vacation trip, to just
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: start getting squirrely and looking around and talking on the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: bench to each other. But there was a focus the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: entire time, and then I think I posted in the
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: highlights as well defensive play made in the first half,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: or the entire bench got up and it felt like
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: they were all going to go pick the guy up.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I can't remember who got got knocked over, but there
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: was a sense of urgency and a sense of togetherness
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: in game one of this group.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: So what's what's the what's the schedule for the rest
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of the week. Obviously there's games on Saturday and Monday.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: What what do Indiana fans have to look forward to,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: just in terms of the rest of this trip. I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: think them is your expectation. The competition levels should step
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: up over the weekend and we should maybe get a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: better sense of of what we're looking at in terms
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: of this Indiana basketball team.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: We will get a good test of what we will see.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I think sad Day's game will be the better tests
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: rather than the eleven am Monday game. With the flight
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: coming out against Serbian professional team Mega super Bet is.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: They're playing playing the two in a row, and again,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: when you're playing a team twice in a couple of days,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: who knows what happens on the on the second day.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. The Saturday night contest seems like
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it'd be the one where they will be more energy
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: maybe and more and it's it's it's in the bigger arena,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I believe too, the one that's more in San Juan.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is in Roberto Clemente believe. But the only
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: issue is is that there is a Bad Bunny concert.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: He has a residency here in San Juan, so okay,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: might not have the crowd just given that probably whatever
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: that place holds where he's going is going to be filled.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I won't be there. I don't listen to Bad Bunny music.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: But there there is a there's a sense of all right,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: got this game out of the way. Now let's have
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: a litmus test against a professional team with actual big guys.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: You're going to see some big dudes out there, the
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: big European guys, which you might see in a game
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: against Illinois and Champagne in January. So it's going to
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: be a test to see will this lack of size
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: hurt Indiana or will they be able to run a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: big team out of the gym with their speed.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll look forward to your coverage and we'll obviously
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: get your back here on the podcast at some point
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: over the weekend or early next week to talk about that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: What do you have playing? Just in terms of getting
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: out and sight seeing, maybe seeing some things around the town.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: What have you had a chance to experience so far.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: We went around Old San Juan yesterday and that was
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a really cool area. I've never been out to Puerto
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Rico before, so it was cool being a tourist. Again.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I don't usually play tourists. I don't like playing tourists,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: but I feel like I have to might go back
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: down there or over there. Was that just a walk
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: for you guys, or it was an uber could have
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: been a walk, but a little bit of a time
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: crunch on a game day. But there's a shuttle that
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: goes to the beach. There's no doubt I'll be playing
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: in Atlantic Ocean waves at some point. Good hopefully not
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: by myself. That'd be a little strange, but if I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: have to, I will. But I'm excited to see the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: food food play here in San Juan. I've heard a
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: lot about it. Caribbean style food, plantains, all that kind
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: of stuff. So it's gonna be a dangerous week.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Well, looking forward to it. Josh We're thrilled to have
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you as a part of the team. Glad you were
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: able to make the trip down there. I know everyone
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: appreciate your coverage and all the multitasking you did on
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Wednesday night. You only got to do it for two
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: more games, so no pressure to keep that up. And again,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: make sure if you're not falling Josh on on social media,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you go ahead and do that. Read all of our
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: coverage on Inside the Hall. Josh has a story up
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this morning about Trenton. I did a recap, a quick
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: recap last night. There's highlights, there's press conference video. There's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: even another post that kind of has a rundown of
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: every player stats, so make sure you check that out.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for listening. Thanks Josh again for waking up
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: early and coming on the show. Really appreciate it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 29:19
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• 29:21
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