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Forget Epstein—The Digital Blackmail State is Here w/ Mel K · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. There is a lot going on in the news right now, and there's obviously the big stories and the focus on Epstein, on the disclosure of the list of the criminals involved. And, you know, I admittedly, I it's something I'm following and that I think is very, very important. But I also think that these types of issues can become distractions.
• 0:37
  And, you know, what happens if tomorrow they reveal the s Epstein list and they go and they arrest, say, 10 different, you know, celebrities and politicians? I think there'd be a huge cheer, and we'd we'd put our feet up and celebrate. But the real issue is much deeper than that. And as my guest today, Mel Kay, details, it's about the banking industry. You know, how what are Epstein's ties to the banking industry?
• 0:59
  What are Epstein tie his ties to the military industrial complex, to the technology industry, to the different various, you know, public private partnerships that are building digital prisons around us as we're, you know, watching our TV and eating our popcorn. And the thing is is that we, as Americans, we, the people, we have to be aware of what's happening. And this is why I'm doing this show is that, as man in America is I'm trying my best to bring you the important interviews, the important guests, and and talk about the topics that I believe are not you're not gonna find them on the mainstream media, but these are actually the crucial topics like medical freedom, the the threat of technocracy and digital prison. And, while, of course, I celebrate the wins that we see, I I celebrate the actions of Doge, I love seeing, you know, things like USAID being dismantled, but I'm also keeping a very vigilant eye on what the technology is doing. And, of course, I wanna see, you know, hundreds of thousands of government workers that are leaching off the system and doing nothing be be fired, but I'm not sure how I feel about them being replaced by AI systems and data gathering systems.
• 2:07
  And so there's a lot that we really should be focusing on together, and that's exactly what my guest, Mel Kay, I will be getting into today is are these topics. So before we start, there's a few quick messages. First off, every show that I do is always done as a podcast. So if you're watching on Rumble or YouTube for the rare video I put up to YouTube because we can't talk about a lot of what I talk about on YouTube, you can also find this in the audio format on your favorite podcast app, whether it's Podbean, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etcetera. So that way you can listen to man in America while you're driving or falling asleep at night or gardening or whatever you're doing.
• 2:41
  Actually, for me, that's where I consume most of my content is through audiobooks and podcasts because I'm whether I'm, you know, you know, building a chicken coop or, you know, feeding my dogs or whatever it is, oftentimes have a little, you thing in my ear so I can be listening and learning as I'm going about my day. So I encourage you to make sure you're following the show on the podcast apps as well as the video apps. Alright, folks. Let's go ahead and dive into today's interview with Mel Kay. I hope you enjoy it.
• 3:06
  And if you do enjoy it, I hope you can share it. And that's a really important point of this is I know that a handful of you, actually, lot of you, are watching every show. And I I meet you in person, you tell me I share with all my friends and my family, and I thank you for that because this is the way that I'm trying to fight this battle. It's an information war, and we have to bring this information to more people. And the messages that we'll be discussing in today's show, I think, are very, very important because right now is not the time for us to put our feet up and say, wow.
• 3:32
  You know, Trump and Elon are taking care of everything because there is still a digital prison being built around us. And if more of us don't become aware of it, it's gonna become too late before you realize the walls have closed in. So please enjoy this interview with Mel Kay. Miss Mel Kay, it's so funny because I first discovered you on SGT report so long ago. Years ago, I remember seeing this girl in in her ball cap and, like, where how does she know all this stuff?
• 3:59
  And here we are. I'm the person that is on the other side of the camera from you, and I have the honor of of, you know, pretty consistently being able to to pick your brain and ask you questions. So thank you for being here.
• 4:10
  Mel K: Thank you for having me. You know, we we got to know each other very early in this journey. And every time that we get back together, it's like we talk, and we're like, oh, yeah. That's what I'm thinking about. That's what I'm doing.
• 4:21
  So it's always an honor to be on with you. Your show is incredible, and we love it. So thank you for having me.
• 4:26
  Seth Holehouse: Of course. So right now, what I'd like to to dive into is this interesting crossroads that we're at right now. And there's there's a lot of big things happening, you you know, without even getting into the monetary system and, you know, gold and, you know, the the banking cartels and everything, but just looking at a few things that are happening simultaneously right now. So we have Elon Musk heading up the Doge and and this massive gutting of the deep state, but what we also have with that is a lot of that gutting is not just leaving an empty void, but it's filling up that void with some sort of AI, some sort of technology that is about efficiency and and processing data quicker, etcetera. So we have that.
• 5:08
  At the same time, you trace a lot of the technology and a lot of the threat of technology, and you end up getting into WikiLeaks territory. You get into, you know, Epstein and his role with technology, his role investing, you know, Les Wexner. There's this intersection happening, but then we've also got Larry Ellison. We have the really, kind of the the big tech front men now, you know, almost all of them very supportive of Donald Trump, which is concerning. Yet we have Yeah.
• 5:38
  On top of that, these promises of the disclosure of the Epstein files and the JFK files, and I feel like that's been I wouldn't call it a bait and switch, but it's been something that has been extremely disappointing. And not just the people like you or I that have been trying to, you know, bring this stuff to service for quite some time now, but even to the common person saying, hey. I I thought I was voting for disclosure and transparency. And so, looking at that palette of of different, you know, kind of pieces of information intersecting, I'll let you just start where you wanna start on helping to kinda unravel everything that's happening right now.
• 6:15
  Mel K: Okay. Well, first and foremost, because I've been, not just covering it, but also watching it up close since 02/2008, the Epstein case, it was a a total, I feel like, a blunder right out of the gate. What happened first with Pam Bondi and then 200 pages, like, are on my desk. You think that's the Epstein files? A.
• 6:41
  B, a lot of confusion out there about Epstein himself and and who he was and what he did. And to me, I'm much more concerned, about his relationship with big tech, with Harvard and MIT, with the Wuhan lab, with genetic engineering and the human genome project. I mean, the Epstein case is far bigger than what people think. And then, of course, I've always known and I fully believe that it was a blackmail operation for multiple different countries. So what we are also watching is this it was them.
• 7:17
  It was them. And, you know, my my feeling about what we're dealing with on a global scale is that it's all of them in different places that are have combined together for this global public private partnership, this agenda 2030, which is also a international banking, you know, plan to kind of capture everything, monetize everything, track and trace everything on a global scale, and that there are people involved from all backgrounds, you know, be it Israel, but also China and also, you know, Venezuela and America and Muslim brotherhood and Qatar. Like, it's not to me, it is power for power's sake and a group of global billionaire oligarchs that actually do believe that they are the parent company that runs planet Earth. So for me, I wanna know more about, you know, his weapons deals and and what world leaders and what, you know, titans of industry were blackmailed and and what happened to us in those cases in terms of, history and and what what words is blackmail used for and on whom. Now something that's not coming up, and it's very strange because of what happened, is that right now, Jess Steele Staley, who was the guy from JPMorgan that was the private banker at the very top, is being questioned this week in The UK about his relationship with Epstein because The UK banned him for life from banking in The UK related to his crimes connected to Epstein.
• 8:52
  And JPMorgan paid $350,000,000 to the Epstein victims connected also to him and another woman at Chase. And the bottom line is nobody's been arrested. And I think what people they wanna see the celebrities, but I think it's really the banking, international banking and Wall Street and the city of London that are are most terrified and and could have the biggest upheaval. But this one man is an American, and he's there. And there were emails, very nice emails between him and Epstein that looked like they're clearly talking about the female trafficking or all of that.
• 9:29
  So that is going on. Nobody's paying attention. And then they had this situation at the White House, which I'm told by the influencers that were invited to the White House that they didn't know they were getting these binders. But it was for me, who knows a bunch of the victims and has talked to a a few of them, it was like the three days between her saying she's releasing it, the binders, and nothing coming has been very hard for some of the victims, and that's who I care about the most at in this situation. So just getting that out of the way in the beginning, there's a lot about Epstein, especially science and technology wise, that is is unsaid that we do need to, get into.
• 10:09
  But I do feel like, we are not looking at the dangers constitution, the bill of rights, and the American people on another level right now as Doge is going forward, and we're watching all of this happen. Like you said, they had the crypto summit with David Sacks and all of those players. He had Larry Ellison and a person that I do not that rubs me really the wrong way, Sam Altman, go to the White House and kind of announce this global public infrastructure, which is a World Economic Forum, UN World Bank, you know, plan that is part of agenda twenty thirty. The 17 sustainable development goals only work if everyone is on the global public infrastructure. It's it's a bait and switch in that sense.
• 10:57
  And I don't, I see a lot of American people, you know, given their eye scans, their hands, you know, logging their kids into stuff and and not really asking where their data is going and what is going to happen with it. And, I do believe that technocracy is the most dangerous form of governance there is, and I believe that China is not a communist country as we always say. I believe China to be already be a technocracy. And in technocracy, I mean, everything is, technology and algorithm based with a surveillance aspect to it that is all encompassing, includes, obviously, social credit score, all of that. But at the same time, the the end of privacy, is is accepted in the guise of it being more efficient to take care of the population, which isn't necessarily true, but we've been fed this.
• 11:50
  And technocracy goes back to the thirties, and, obviously, a lot of people know Elon Musk's grandfather was involved with technocracy inc. It was a a real thing, and it was then it was expanded by somebody that I feel is, you know, probably equal to Kissinger, which is Brzezinski, wrote a whole book about it, basically being like, we don't you know, as soon as we can get people to be totally controlled by technology and algorithms, then kind of we win. I I that is basically his whole thing, and I don't he was a trilateral commission guy. I don't think anyone from the trilateral commission should be in our government at all with their whole, desire just like the World Economic Forum and UN to have global governance above all our nations and running the world through, conferences as Davos and Bilderberg rather than through nation states and actual governments. So I think we're at a place in America where we have to take a step back and look at what we want for our future and how far we're willing to allow technology to take over our country in terms of, running our country from, you know, benefits and and, all of that through, smart houses, Internet of body, Internet of things.
• 13:03
  Because when Larry Ellison announces that they're going to build Stargate for $500,000,000,000 and they're going to need all of these data centers that are like multiple football fields worth and that will need all kinds of energy and and water and heating and and and cooling and all of that. I mean, what are we giving up, and what is what is the benefit? I don't think people are doing the cost analysis of of, kinda handing the country to technocrats.
• 13:32
  Seth Holehouse: Not at all. And, Amy, if you look at the inauguration and you look at who's in the front row and you see,
• 13:38
  Mel K: you know,
• 13:38
  Seth Holehouse: all the you know, not just the inauguration, you're consistently seeing now. It's, you know, Zuckerberg. It's Bezos. It's, you know you know, Sam Altman. Not not to mention Elon Musk.
• 13:49
  Right? And it was also interesting, you know, tying into, you know, Epstein is that, you know, because I I follow Whitney Webb and her work, and I'm I'm slowly working my way through her by his one nation under blackmail. Right? Which is like a pretty dense awesome. Right?
• 14:03
  She's she's a very smart person. And Yep. You know, one thing that I've understood is that, a, it's not just Israel. Right? So and that that's what I've seen is that a lot of people make it so, oh I know.
• 14:13
  Epstein is Mossad. All of Trump's cabinet are pro pro Israel, and and they they really simplify it. And I'm not taking away from that. I mean, to me, it's very concerning how aligned his entire cabinet is about one particular country that's not America. Like, that's there's all kinds of red flags that that raises for me.
• 14:30
  However, the point that Whitney has made from my as I understand it is that it's much bigger than that. It's much more multinational than that, and it's something that it's it's an entity that is not really beholden to any particular country. Right? It's a, as you, you know, you've you've referred to oftentimes, it's this global, you know, public private partnership. It's this, you know, corporatocracy.
• 14:51
  It's it's it's bigger than the a single nation. But then going into Epstein, you know, something I've also been seeing, you know, very intelligent people talk about from the perspective is that Epstein is actually you know, what Epstein is doing, what Diddy was doing, you know, these blackmail operations are a lot less important once they have a technocratic state in place. Gold has surged 46% in less than a year, doubling the gains of the Nasdaq and the S and P five hundred. But this isn't just another rally. Global reserves are shifting, exposing cracks in the monetary system.
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• 16:23
  Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (626) 654-1906. You'll find that information in the description for the show as well. Because if they can plant, you know, or maybe even use AI. Right? If if they use AI to hypothetically say they wanna compromise a politician, and they can use AI to develop a a low quality kind of hotel video camera of something happening, and they can plant that on his own laptop, and then they can discover that through some sort of cybercrime team.
• 16:54
  Do they even need to have Lolita Express and, you know, you know, Epstein's Island? And then that's the worry that I have is that you look at what this technocracy is, and, obviously, it's a loss of freedom. It's it's absolutely a loss of privacy, but what other control mechanisms come with that?
• 17:13
  Mel K: Right. Right. Yeah. And, I mean and that's where we really have to understand that America is the only country that has the constitution and bill of rights that can actually put guardrails on the technocracy, the technology algorithms replacing human interaction and human toil to control and and manage our country. And the p the like I said, the people that created it, they they were not prohuman.
• 17:42
  They they were very similar to me to the, club of Rome limits to growth, fallacy about that, all climate change is human caused, and, you know, the powers that be that run the world, have the solutions. We just have to give them all of our money and our power, and then, they can they can save us from, ourselves. And, again, this is the the same argument that's coming with the technocracy and the technology taking over everything, is that, technology is better than humans. And, you know, and a lot of these people are also people who are, you know, not spiritual, not connected to god. They don't believe in that.
• 18:21
  They actually believe in, singularity and transhumanism. So, I mean, it's all connected, and it all does connect to Epstein. But, honestly, I think the entire Epstein thing really goes to the top of the banking industry almost more than anything else and that the Hollywood people are a secondary or third factor in it. First would be, obviously, world leaders, politicians, prime ministers, and, at the same time, the international bankers because those were who I believe are his clients, and that is also who I still believe is running both sides financially, at least, of every single war. It's not it's not to me, it's everything is order out of chaos right now.
• 19:03
  It was a long term plan, and I think he was very involved. But don't forget, he had passports for Austria. He had a passport Saudi Arabia. He was very close with prince Andrew and Ehud Barak. And, obviously, in his first case in 02/2008, '1 of the letters that was written for him was that he founded the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative.
• 19:26
  So, you know, there's just so much there that needs to be done, and I just think how they rolled it out was so I I I wanna give them all the benefit of the doubt. And, you know, I I love Kash Patel. I don't even know what he's done yet, but the way that Pam Bondi handled that handled all of that seemed to me to be, you know, disrespectful to the victims, a, and, b, kind of a bait and switch to kind of distract us from what I believe is the real issue, which is what is coming out of Doge is not just in Washington DC. It is they it was infiltration instead of invasion that he warned us about JFK. Well, every single town, every mayor, every county, every state should be, you know, starting their own doge as citizens.
• 20:14
  What we should be looking at is, oh my god. Look. These hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money were in debt because of these people and USAID, which I happen to believe works in tandem with the CIA and National Endowment for Democracy. I think our our certainly, since Bush senior, I think our state department is part of the global public private partnership, not working for America as much as they're working for, themselves and their, you know, expectations of a future that they will control. So it it's very scary to watch all of our institutions be, exposed as as what they are.
• 20:52
  But even more, I think people aren't looking at, okay. Well, if that's happening in Washington DC, what's happening with my own local government? And and how did my local community become like this? And and what what surveillance that violates the constitution has been put into my neighborhood, my home, my, you know, where is the line that we draw in America? And then at the same time, we have all these people that wanna continue the war, or how can we abandon our allies in the EU?
• 21:19
  The EU are not our allies. I mean, the EU's whole entire birth comes out of the incredible amount of money from the Marshall Fund Marshall Plan that we put in to rebuild Europe. It was used to build the EU. And and just like Henry Kissinger, you know, at when he was at Harvard through a CIA funded program, recruited Klaus Schwab and then put him into the World Economic Forum and the gold standard. And just like that, the EU is starting to be born.
• 21:51
  So I just think that a post World War two fraud was perpetrated on the world, not just with the UN, but in many, many ways. And that is what is beginning to unravel. And Epstein is a small part, but who he was involved in, who he was blackmailing is the story, not not him. And and, certainly, you know, I I feel for all the victims. But, at the same time, what happened to the world because of that ring?
• 22:23
  And and what happened to all these people, that are in power still? Because the Clintons still to this day have never been questioned about that. So it's like this amalgamation of all this stuff and then this excitement of how fast Trump is going. It's stopping people, I think, from stopping looking inside and saying, well, what's gonna happen to my actual life? What what does all these changes signify?
• 22:49
  Meaning because clearly, what Doge is doing is AI. I mean, it has to be AI and programs and algorithms to weed out all this stuff, or it wouldn't be able to happen, and it wouldn't happen this fast. So where is that AI being implemented, and and how deeply is it being implemented into our everyday lives even in ways that we don't know? We know about the smartphone, and we know about, you know, the Internet, and we know all of that. But what are we doing as citizens of this country to say, you know what?
• 23:18
  You might be able to do this everywhere else in the world, but we actually fought a war to make our own choices, our own decisions by the people, for the people, to protect the people from the government, not the other way around, which has been so convoluted. And here we are facing likely a technocracy that is is, I believe, antithetical to the constitution and bill of rights. And how are we gonna step in there? You know, when you're talking about seven zero two wireless surveillance at 3,000,000 times being used on American citizens, inappropriately in the OIG report and all of that, you know, how far are we willing to go for what? Efficiency, safety, security?
• 24:00
  You know, if it's about safety and security, why don't you bring back our troops that are are, you know, are protecting Europe who EU is is has captured Europe. And I I feel for all those nation states as we're watching what is happening over there, but we can allow that to happen to us. And that's my my fear about all this amalgamation of stuff is that I know that the endgame is the global public infrastructure, and that is a global governance. That is a world, global public infrastructure that is already built, and that is built by people like Elon Musk and by people like BlackRock and and, you know, was, I think, built by the same people, Eric Schmidt and other people that were involved in building the technocracy that is China and is the end goal to make the entire world have to make life almost impossible to live without giving in to the technocracy and giving up privacy and all the things that America is supposed to stand for, liberty, self determination, you know, how much your private life and your public life intersect or don't intersect, which a lot of people would prefer them not to to have their public life, but in their home be completely secure in their you know, as per the constitution, in their papers and belongings.
• 25:20
  So it's all very convoluted. And, again, we have to remember, there is a big play for having no private property. You know? So they they need to build all these things to make this infrastructure. Is that infrastructure connected to the global So there's just a lot of questions I see not being asked because there's a lot of pomp and circumstance and bread and circuses happening.
• 25:44
  And yet the real fundamental issues of where humanity is heading, I don't see being questioned very much by people beyond our realm.
• 25:53
  Seth Holehouse: I agree. And that's also what concerns me is, I I recently traveled. I was actually I was out, in Oklahoma. I did an event with Clay Clark, Clay Clark out there, and I had to you know, it was too far of a drive, so I flew. And, you know, I always try to go through regional airports, which is, you know, I I prefer much better than the big ones.
• 26:10
  But even at a smaller regional airport, I see you know, they've now introduced the the face the picture you take. Right? So instead of the officer looking at your ID, look at you, what they do is is they scan your ID, and then they have you take a picture, I think the computer then matches it instead of the officer. But then what it says though is it says right beneath that, it says you can opt out of this, and these pictures are not saved. And so I walk up there, and I see the whole line of people.
• 26:33
  They don't even question it. They no one even questions it. No one questions the the body scanners. So they they walk up, they look in the picture, they take their picture, and they they just keep going. And and I got there and say, oh, I wanna opt out of the picture.
• 26:46
  And the officer or the TSA guy says, oh, well, you know, they they delete these pictures right after you they take them. And it's like, oh, sure. I'll believe that. Right? Like, okay.
• 26:54
  Who's gonna believe that? I guess everybody does. But I was like, okay. No. I'm not I'm not gonna do it.
• 26:59
  And he goes, okay. That's fine. And he just looks at my picture, and I go.
• 27:02
  Mel K: Right. I know. And then
• 27:02
  Seth Holehouse: I go, and I'm like, okay. I'm not doing the body scanner. Like, I'll I'll do a pat down in the metal detector. And it's like, really? Like, are you sure?
• 27:09
  It's like, But the problem is that I'm probably one in in five thousand people that go through that line. And that's what concerns me is that, Americans, even though we have the constitution, we have the the history of rebellion that's in our blood, I think for a lot of people, if there were, say, Chinese troops on our border, they'd might they would take up arms. But if there are Chinese troops behind computers that are running the AI and and and tracking them, they would just go along willingly, unfortunately, like sheep being led to the slaughter. And and that's why I'm I love having these conversations, and and I know that we both have a a huge core audience that they watch everything we do, and they share this stuff with their friends. And this is how we're creating this contagion of of this kind of information because we have to allow, more Americans to see the real picture of what's going on here, and I'm concerned that there is a complacency.
• 28:04
  There's this celebratory and you see all over Twitter, it's like, yeah, the Doge just shut down, you know, $300,000,000,000 in corruption there and all this corruption over there, yet we're it's like we're celebrating the arrival of the Trojan horse that gets rid the enemy that hit us at knifepoint, and everyone is just sitting there complacently thinking, yes. You know, look at the Trojan horse and Elon Musk is on top of it, and, you know, the jury is still out on him in my opinion. I think he's doing some great things. However, I I I I know what he's building, and he when he talks about singularity, I'm aware of what that means, and I'm aware of the, you know, control of what Neuralink means. And and I I know where all these things lead.
• 28:41
  I've I've read too many sci fi novels as a kid to not know where this stuff ends ends up, and that's what concerns me is that I I I hope that these interviews can get can reach more people because we need to have more of the American people saying, we will not stand for this. I will not comply to your technology. I will not comply to your face scanning. I will not comply. Because Yeah.
• 29:05
  If if we don't, then maybe we deserve it.
• 29:08
  Mel K: Well, exactly. I mean, I think it was Ben Franklin that said, if you give up liberty for security, you deserve neither. And the truth is that's kind of what we're being told. Also, those eye scans are scanning your retinas. And I can't believe that people didn't get from minority report, which was from 2012, that, the Tom Cruise character cuts out his eyeballs because his retina scan is how they identify people in that movie, which we know a lot of interactions and many of Spielberg movies had things that were technology based that seemed impossible.
• 29:43
  And years later, you're like, well, how did he know that was going to happen? So to me, it's that or putting your hand on, you know, to pay for your groceries at Whole Foods. Well, you know, after, I believe, Larry Ellison and and Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, who owns Whole Foods, is the third biggest defense contractor. So, again, a lot of this still to me goes back to the Patriot Act. First of all, I think that TSA is completely unconstitutional.
• 30:12
  I always did. There has to be probable cause to search you, and, essentially, you're allowing them to search your person and your belongings, under the guise of the shoe bomber that I don't even believe had really happened. So and and then you look at Chertoff and a lot of the people involved in the, project for new American century, the neocons that are still pushing endless war for profit for themselves. Chertoff, I believe one of those people was, one of the people that were invested in the scanners. Or you find out, like, this guy that's going after Musk, Kelly, in Arizona, he's invested in one of the companies that was involved in the Chinese balloon, which was actually spying on us.
• 30:50
  So, you know, there's there's this level of finance with the big tech guys and then intrusion and violation of of our, you know, our our constitution, bill of rights, civil rights, all of that. But beyond that, we've allowed the Patriot Act to go unchecked and continue to grow and be weaponized and be in our faces. I don't know if the American people are fully aware or are paying attention that the NSA database first of all, for whatever reason, it appears that a lot of people have security clearance that aren't in the government and haven't been for decades, which is bizarre, and I don't know why that happens, but that the we that the NSA shares their data with the Five Eyes Nation's data. You know, these Five Eyes Nations have not been especially if you look at Trump and the entire crossfire hurricane and all that and their participation in trying to take that down. Also, everyone's lockstep participation in the pandemic and the the, push for a lot of these global institutions to take over our institutions, be it, you know, covertly or overtly.
• 32:00
  I mean, a lot of this stuff is going full steam ahead while people are cheering on Doge and waiting for the Epstein files. And I'm thinking, I just saw the global governance conference because I have to watch those things because I actually care. They're talking about their fake carbon credit and net zero and all that, including now water. You know? And it's just a we gotta preserve the water, so we gotta track and trace and surveil everyone that's using water.
• 32:26
  I mean, everything that is presented is presented as it's a dire need, and that is a fraud and a lie. Many of much of it created by the crown, the UN, and the Rockefellers. But at the same time, you have to also look into, you know, where is your line as an individual human being born on planet Earth of God? At what point are you going to say no? And in America, we can.
• 32:52
  And why are you telling me that somebody checking my ID is less efficient than the entire government tracking and tracing your retinas and and having whoever's sitting there basically doing nothing except for trying to get you to take your picture and, oh, we're gonna get rid of them. Oh, really? Well, there were 3,000,000 people after January 6 that had all of their emails, their bank accounts, their private conversations, their text messages snatched from the NSA database with no warrant and no protocol filed that was put out there, and people just kinda shrug. Well, where are we going if if we're allowing that? America should not be doing that.
• 33:34
  And then this other thing where we have to continue down the path of what I believe NATO to be, the public private partnership parent company of the world's military, continuing down this road. We're paying for it. People are dying. The EU is not our friend. I mean, I know people think that, but financially, you know, they've they've gotten away with everything, but they're not good to their own people.
• 33:57
  They're all in on the net zero. They're all in on the global public infrastructure. Vander Leiden just announced that in September, they're going into the central bank digital currency, which is the World Bank current like, what we've been warning about. So the EU is betraying their own people, and and we're supposed to because they're our allies. Who said they're our allies?
• 34:17
  I I thought we fought a war in 1776 that we don't have that's not how America's supposed to function. And even in my book, I I put in the farewell address of George Washington where it's like if we had just done that. But, you know, come 1912 and then, you know, my feeling is that King George brought them home and then had them infiltrate our country through the banking system. But whatever the case may be, we are awake now. We we have a bigger picture.
• 34:45
  Way more people see what's going on, and yet I don't see enough Americans getting together, uniting, and pushing back against, basically, the digital gulag that you can call it the World Health Organization treaty, or you can call it the central bank digital currency. At the end of the day, if everything we say and do is on blockchain being watched, know, Joe Biden and all of his auto penned executive orders was putting in the ledger technology, was putting in the biometric surveillance, was putting in the biodiversity watching of everything through surveillance. I mean, so to me, I think we have much bigger problems that the American people are uniquely qualified and have the ability because of our founding documents to actually push back on if we choose to, but it would need to be way more people saying, no. No. No.
• 35:36
  This isn't gonna happen here. The sad part is I believe a lot of mayors are paid off. You know? Bloomberg did that, mayor challenge. 700 mayors were involved that had to do with net zero and the Glasgow conference in, the COP twenty six.
• 35:49
  Now you have these lunatics, you know, mowing down the Amazon to make a highway to the COP thirty conference in Brazil when you're telling me that the Amazon is one of the biggest, you know, carbon, you know, capture on the planet. I mean, it's just all making no sense, and and I just really hope that people listen to us and and take a minute to just sit quietly with themselves. You know, I also suggest journaling about what's going on because so much is coming so fast and determine what they actually want for themselves, their future, their family's future, their children's future, but also our country. Because, you know, if we're all going to decide that everything should be, you know, in in Larry Ellison's Oracle Skynet, you know, then that's a choice, too. And it seems to me people aren't making a choice.
• 36:43
  And we have the ability in America to make choices. And it appears to me that the government is bought and paid for and aren't gonna do aren't going to do that for us. And it's up to we, the people of The United States, to get together and define what is okay and what is not okay and, and and have our voices be heard. I just don't think enough people are looking at the technocracy that is taking over our country, and and without, it looks like, any, bumps in the road even from the Trump administration.
• 37:16
  Seth Holehouse: It's unfortunate. And there's if if you're to kinda dig into, you know, what is the greatest threat for this nation, obviously, we have we have enemy nations. We have a lot of things that are at our doorstep. But I would I would say, and I think you probably agree, it's digital prison. Like, this is the real threat, and this is really the end game.
• 37:33
  Mel K: %.
• 37:33
  Seth Holehouse: Right? Is is they have to have a a digital prison. And even if you look at the the the COVID, you know, kind of pandemic and the jab rollout and all this, it's easy to kinda jump into these, you know, much kind of more accepted conspiracies. Oh, it's it's just a depopulation agenda. It's this.
• 37:51
  But, when I look at that and I look at the Kim trailing, and I can see that under Trump, I I have to admit, I'm seeing a a ramp up in Kim Kim trailing, and I'm seeing it more and more on on Twitter when I'm on there. I'm seeing more people sharing, like, the heavily, heavily, you know, like, clouded skies. The time lapses are showing blue sky. Crisscross, crisscross, it spreads out, and all you've got this this cloudy sky. It's easy to think that, oh, it's it's about poisoning people, and, of course, it is, but my concern with all of this is that this is it's all about the digital surveillance state because what they need to have inside of our bodies are are the the raw materials to build the the the the, what is it?
• 38:30
  The body area network. I forget that you mentioned earlier to the tip of tongue. Right?
• 38:34
  Mel K: Internet of body.
• 38:35
  Seth Holehouse: Internet of things.
• 38:36
  Mel K: Yep. Right. And so And to connect.
• 38:39
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And that's the thing is that we look at all these heavy metals being put into us through the food system, through the medicines, but also through the air that we're breathing, that's continuing. And it's like, okay. Great. Hey.
• 38:49
  We got rid of this cancerous red dye in Froot Loops, and, okay, that's a win. And, hey. Wow. Steak and shake is now using tallow. Like, wow.
• 38:56
  America's back. Right? Like, go America. I know. It's like
• 39:00
  Mel K: I know.
• 39:00
  Seth Holehouse: It's like Where's the where's the where's the stop to the geoengineering? Where's the stop to the chemtrails? Where's the reversal of these things? Because
• 39:09
  Mel K: that's disclosure about it. Know? Some people have a choice. Like, America, we have we are supposed to have choices, consent of the governed. That is what we are not standing for.
• 39:22
  And to me, that's that's that's the the biggest issue we have is that because there is no getting out of the technocracy. That that was the whole plan of technocracy. And you hear Noah Harari on stage saying, you know, god you know, Hitler and and Mao and all them, they only dreamed of having this kind of power that we have now. You know, humans are hackable animals. You know?
• 39:47
  An algorithm's gonna be running your credit score. So you won't have anyone to talk to right now. It's very hard to get somebody on the phone if there's a mistake on your credit or on your or on your bank account or whatever. It's 10 calls, and they'll call you back. And then you're talking to somebody, you know, they're following script.
• 40:04
  I mean, all of this stuff. And then the other thing is, who says it's better than human human interaction and human, you know, participation and human? We can up that game. And then the other thing that's going on is I I am very disturbed about BlackRock. Apparently, they didn't buy the Panama Canal.
• 40:23
  They bought they're buying 44 ports. Okay? It's not just Panama Canal. And and just recently, you know, this guy Carney that just took over Canada is a straight up world economic forum, net zero, track and trace surveillance, full control of humanity, full control of human behavior by the, even calls himself a globalist elite, and he's a BlackRock Goldman guy. So, again, what we're what we are seeing, I believe, at least when it comes to the tech, bros, as they call them, or the technocracy is we have two sides of technocracy.
• 41:00
  We have the side that believes they have to control humanity. They have to control human behavior. They need to control track, trace, and surveil all natural resources and everything on planet Earth. And then you have the other ones that seem to be kind of saying that too, but they they kinda like humanity because they have their own kids and their own, you know, stuff. So it's taking the power away from those people that only Americans have the ability, I believe, to do.
• 41:29
  And yet I don't see any anything forming to even when the World Health Organization treaty was coming, you and I had done shows on it. We had on a there was there was some great people exposing it. Reggie Littlejohn and and a whole bunch of other people, Merle Nash and Rugusti, all these people.
• 41:49
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Yep.
• 41:50
  Mel K: Right. But the truth is we're not seeing any of that about this. We're not seeing any kind of coming together of liberty and freedom loving people. You know, people wanna audit the Fed, which is, you know, a great idea. People wanna do this.
• 42:06
  But I don't see any uprising of where's our privacy going? And we found out all this stuff about the warrantless surveillance and and the geo tracking of all the January 6 people and the handing over of their bank accounts and their Twitter accounts of hundreds of people just that one day. But millions have been surveilled by this surveillance state that we've allowed to become fully functioning. And, you know, I hear I hear a handful of our guests on our shows and you and me, and then, you know, there's other people out there, but there's there's been no mass pushback. And the other thing I see is the real pushing of of kind of like you said, little wins are being treated as giant wins.
• 42:52
  You know, I've seen no arrests. Okay? And I and I've seen none of this. And I've seen a lot of disclosure. I mean, you have that Redfield guy that ran the CDC under COVID saying there's no such thing as long COVID on Del Bigtree that it's vaccine injury.
• 43:06
  And yet that's still not the front page of every every paper. You know? Larry Ellison is billing a Skynet with Sam Altman who talks openly about WorldCoin and retina scans. And who are these people? Why do they get to who's running who's creating the algorithm, and who's watching them?
• 43:23
  And, I mean, you know, all the people that are upset about the Doge people, which I believe just to be an advanced algorithm that's going through and looking for anomalies financially, which is I'm happy about for auditing. But, you know, why why are we asking well, who's again, who's creating them? Who's also going to be watching them? And who's going to be using them? We see it in China.
• 43:45
  And and, frankly, what what I'm scared of is I one time went into I was filming some movie, and I went into I was able to look at a location that was a a surveillance area for the NYPD. And I'm telling you, they they have cameras everywhere. Like so so at this point, you look at China, and not only do they have cameras everywhere, everyone's retinas are scanned, and they they have numbers above everyone's head as they're walking around. You know, we know about BGI. Also, going forward without any stop is g o GMO and genetically modified and engineered, literally fully engineered milk, you know, eggs, you know, you name it, meat.
• 44:35
  But it's it's still thriving, that whole industry that is completely antithetical to humanity, I believe, and nature. So, again, they're pushing us into the transhumanism, fourth industrial revolution, singularity in America, and nobody's talking about it. Nobody's, you know, saying I mean, I don't even it's so funny. I always think about they live, and I'm like, can we pull the plug somewhere and have to, like, reevaluate if we want this? Because
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• 46:57
  Mel K: You know, for me, I would rather go back to, you know, whatever you say about Israel or or whatever. There's a system in Israel that helped build Israel's Agriculture that's kibbutz, you know, like, the kibbutz that was attacked on October 7. And I saw, you know, RFK junior talking about kind of a wellness for the homeless and mentally ill and and drug addicts that could rebuild our farming by putting, like, basically, that concept into play here in all the abandoned hundreds of thousands of acres of abandoned farmland could become, you know, a place where people learned to, you know, work the land and and bring back farming and get skills and and all of that. Like, that's what we need. Like, what we need is more humans involved, more, you know, people doing that.
• 47:50
  And yet Larry Fink is on stage two days ago saying, well, if we stop immigration and we deport all these people, he's saying we're not even gonna have electricians. Since when? You know? And nobody's gonna work the fields, and we're gonna have this who said? You know?
• 48:07
  Like and and it they're not even I just feel like it it we're being taken from one place to a totally other place that is could be, in my opinion, because of who who is running it, far worse. And so to me, I just I wanna know where people stand on liberty, freedom, privacy, self determination, consent of the governed. And I I don't really don't see much of that happening, and I hope it does. And I I, you know, I just also talked to Jimmy Dorr about this. I know you talked to bros.
• 48:37
  It's not a left and right Republican, Democrat issue. It's a human issue and and a and a god issue, frankly, in my opinion. So, you know, they're they all talk about too. I think something that's being left out also is not just that we have we we should be making the choice inside ourselves and and getting involved, but, also, I don't think people are looking at the idea that totalitarianism is hard to get out of once it takes hold. But technocracy and totalitarianism, that's it.
• 49:13
  So that's I just I don't see anyone rising up to lead the charge against on. Where does our privacy and our constitution end and technology, technocracy, and efficiency, begin, and and what are the lines we're not willing to cross as American citizens?
• 49:31
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Actually, so you mentioned China a handful of times. I wanna pull this up really quickly because, this is a post I just came across. Think it was today or yesterday. It says history has taught us that if you sacrifice your freedom for security, you end up with without both.
• 49:45
  Says this is Chinese people in Beijing lining up to take a facial scan in order to enter another zone. Says digital ID is literally turning China's Fifteen Minute cities into open air prisons. I'll place the twenty four seconds. I'll turn the volume off because it's just crowds, but this is people right here lining up to have their facial scan done. It looks like they're at an amusement park.
• 50:07
  Right? Like, all they wanna enter the other zone. These are all people that are lining up to have their facial scan, you know, kinda taken so they can then enter into the the different zone. And this is absolutely like, there you go. Like, this is it.
• 50:24
  This is what the plan is, and this is fighting. So, you know, for all of us who've seen Hunger Games or, any of these, you know, Blade Runner or any of these different, you know, movies about the future, you can see that the ability to basically control people into these zones, these fifteen minute cities. And if you're then, say, if you're then required to do a facial scan just to enter in, think about the amount of control that gives you because let's just say that you're you or me, and it's like, oh, okay. Well, you've got a negative social credit score. It might mean that you're locked into a certain region.
• 50:58
  Well, how do you even escape? If if they wanna come at you, how do you even escape? This is why for me and my family, you know, we've we we now live deep into the country
• 51:06
  Mel K: I know.
• 51:06
  Seth Holehouse: Surrounded by forests. You know, we've got chickens. We're getting goats soon. It's it's kinda our our neighbor gave birth to a bunch of goats, so we're getting some miniature goats soon. And Cool.
• 51:14
  And now and I feel lucky, but I think a lot of people, they can't. Right? They're they're they're living in a suburb, and they're, they work ten minutes away, and and there's you know, it's not easy for everyone just to go live out in the middle of nowhere.
• 51:27
  Mel K: But
• 51:27
  Seth Holehouse: I think the key, though, and what does give me hope, and this is what drives what I'm doing, I know it's a big driver for what you're doing, is I do believe that at the end of the day, that the power resides in the people collectively, and this this is it. So if if we get enough people, enough Americans to say, I will not comply, we take away all of their power. Like, look at what's happening with the I forget the name of the, the the blade. I think they call themselves the blade runners over in, The UK, where they're just they're cutting down and they're vandalizing every new security camera that goes up. Like, that's what has to happen here in America.
• 52:05
  Like, I'm just waiting for the news reports of, oh, well, some rogue person with a 50 cal Barrett took out another five g tower today. Right? Where where are those news reports coming? And, unfortunately, Americans, it just seems like they'd be pushed to the very edge before we react, but I I hope that we can collectively start reacting more strongly to this. Otherwise, we're gonna lose the opportunity.
• 52:27
  Mel K: Yeah. I agree. And, again, it's because of our founding documents that we even have the opportunity because they do not have the opportunity in the EU or in China or elsewhere. And what we also have to remember is China's an entire rise, as you know, because you've covered it for years, was facilitated, built, and funded by us or by, you know, the, you know, you don't forget it. As I tell everyone, at the very top of most of the UN agencies is a CCP member or multiple.
• 53:00
  And most of the people at the UN are chosen by the, oligarchy elite of whatever country and put in there. They're not thinking about the average person, which is why a lot of people don't wanna do away with the UN. I I wouldn't be against it. But that there needs to be another infrastructure for international, you know, relations and foreign relations. But the Chinese are living in a technocracy like you just showed.
• 53:28
  We are not that far from that. Okay? They are building smart cities all over America even though they might not call them that. But a lot of these communities that, you know, they've been building that are all rental homes, it is a smart house. It is a smart neighborhood.
• 53:42
  It is a smart thing. And then like we talked, Internet of body is supposed to connect with Internet of things in the fourth industrial revolution. And though it I mean, it took four years for people to accept the fact that Klaus Schwab actually wrote a book, COVID nineteen, the great reset, that was a guide for all the build back better leaders that then followed it in lockstep. Well, fourth industrial revolution and his book on, what does he call it, stakeholder capitalism. Both are books that people should know about because he's showing you their what they're going to do because they're so arrogant.
• 54:15
  They think that everyone's just going to go along with it because they are the global elite. And, you know, Canada, I don't even know if they realize. They just they just put somebody in power that is a % on board, Carney. He's part of that. He's the head of the net zero alliance that Bloomberg and Kerry and everyone jumped into in in COP twenty six, I think, right after Biden got into office, which is a you know, that's in Whitney's book.
• 54:41
  She wrote a great article on unlimited hangout about it in 2021. I mean, this is this is the natural asset class, the new, you know, monetizing nature. So, again, nobody chose these people. Like, I watched that lady from the EU speak about that they're going into, you know, the central bank digital currency in September in the EU, and she wasn't elected. She wasn't she doesn't she shouldn't have any say.
• 55:08
  And and now they're they're penalizing, Hungary and Slovakia and what's going on in Romania. And the guy that Terry, Breton, whoever, the guy that threatened Elon Musk with taking down x, You know, if the German election doesn't work out, the EU is going to invalidate that too. I mean, aren't people seeing what's happening in the EU and thinking, woah? And then you get all the people. We can't abandon our allies.
• 55:33
  The EU is not our ally. And and, you know, Trump wants to speak to the individual nation state leaders. And and that's what I'd like to see happen more. I see a lot of opportunity for a, like, a global positive reset in foreign policy. But, again, a lot of the tech stuff and the and the tech guys is also involved in the military industrial complex.
• 55:59
  You had Eric Schmidt, who I find as equally nefarious, in my opinion, as Bill Gates, who gets all the, you know, slings and arrows as does Soros. Well, Omar and Reid Hoffman, there's other people that are all involved in this. And at the top of that, again, I always have to go back to Larry Fink because last week in the New York Post, it said Larry Fink is the new sweetheart of MAGA. And I'm thinking, what is going on here? And then I see BlackRock bought the Panama Canal, and I'm like, BlackRock is at the Larry Fink is at the very top of the great reset of the World Economic Forum of the Council of Foreign Relations.
• 56:39
  The Council of Foreign Relations on x, their foreign affairs magazine, is going crazy. You know? And and this is where, you know, I can't even believe this, and yet I'm not seeing coordinated pushback. You know? And that is where, in my mind, I'm saying, well, where are we then with all the work we've done and all the disclosure and all the understanding?
• 57:01
  I was told that there's going to be an announcement that you know? And we'll see what happens. I can't confirm this right now, but that Donald Trump will come out and say that he's not that Obama, you know, signed us on to agenda twenty thirty, the end of nation states and global governance with Samantha Power and Susan Rice in 2015 without the consent of the governed, a a nation state ending plan, and, that Donald Trump is going to say that agenda 2030 and the 17 development goals are antithetical to The United States, our constitution, and our way of life, which I fully agree. But, I hope to hear that soon. And if we hear that, then we can start to connect why that is.
• 57:44
  And that is because all of that entails a giant transfer of wealth, the total end of privacy from birth to death, and full track and trace surveillance on the global public infrastructure. Everyone reads all the you know, they have the whole colorful 17 development goals with their big thing, and they all wear their little thing. I mean, the truth is it is exactly what they have in China, exactly what you just showed. And, frankly, I've I've said many times BlackRock invests and and Elon Musk is in China. We just found out from a whistleblower from Facebook that Mark Zuckerberg went to China, you know, with his wife and announced that and and told the Chinese that not only would he give them backdoor access to Facebook in China, but that they could use all the data on the people that are on Facebook in China.
• 58:31
  And and where does that stop? So, again, a lot of these people, you know, Sam Altman, I put up a tweet that he wrote thanking Reid Hoffman for playing his part to make sure Trump didn't win in 2020, and now he's with Larry Ellison at the White House telling us that they're gonna be controlling the algorithm that controls our lives in the future. You know? And and Allison and Oracle, their first three clients were the CIA and In Q Tel. You know?
• 58:55
  And that's the same with Google, with Facebook, with, you know, OpenAI, with all of this stuff. And and it's a very small group of people, and I don't see how it's that different than the World Economic Forum or Brussels or Switzerland controlling everything, to have those people control everything. So to me, in America, it's we, the people, individually that are supposed to be making the choices for themselves, their family, and their communities. And that's that's where I am right now watching this and thinking, at what point are we watching people, me and you, as we're watching them walk up to Clear? You know what's crazy?
• 59:31
  During the COVID, Rob and I drove everywhere, really. But once in a while, we'd go, and they were they had the Clear people from the TSA and the and the Clear does anyone asking where the data from Clear and TSA goes? No. But they had them telling people during the COVID, well, people have the masks, and they're all scared. You know, just go here, and you can go right through.
• 59:52
  And now you look at the lines for the people that have CLEAR, and they're longer than the other lines. So, I mean, it's all been a big fraud. And and then for me, of course, I believe that after from the end of World War two forward, almost everything that we've been told, at least, to get us to this point has been either, you know, a lie or purposefully coordinated over years to get us to where we are because all you have to do, like I said, is look at Brzezinski's stuff. Well, Brzezinski was with not just the trilateral commission and then Kissinger and Rockefeller and the crown, but Brzezinski was with Carter. And a lot of horrible things happened during Carter, but then also was brought back by Obama and Biden and his philosophy and everything Biden because Blinken and Sullivan and Susan Rice are trilateral commission people, which are technocracy supporters.
• 1:00:49
  So just to me right now, I think that the American people really have to take a pause and, and think about what would life be like here if we had the same exact thing as China because that is exactly what is being built right before our eyes to great fanfare, unfortunately, from the White House.
• 1:01:07
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. I'll pull up one thing as as we're running out our discussion. This is a tweet that this is recently from, Ursula Vonder Vandeluen. Is that
• 1:01:15
  Mel K: how you pronounce her last name? Vandeliden.
• 1:01:17
  Seth Holehouse: There you go. Talking about how saying she's saying we will turn private savings into much needed investment. So talking about tapping into the trillions of dollars of savings of the people of this the people's savings, literally, that their Yes. Bank their savings account with their bank in the EU tapping into that. So this is this is getting into seizing public assets to drive, you know, to drive government initiatives, which is insane.
• 1:01:43
  And, again, this is why, you know, people think, you know, maybe some a little bit conspiratorial. It's like, I don't you know, I try not to have any of my money sitting in a bank account. I don't trust the bank accounts, even a a local credit union. Like, I'd much rather have it Yeah. Buried in my backyard as gold and silver.
• 1:01:58
  They can't that, know now maybe they've got, you know, kind of metal detecting drones. They're gonna fly overhead. Okay. Maybe. Well, I'll be there if my my my shotgun with some birdshot to take care of that drone.
• 1:02:07
  Right. But that's the thing is that, like, this is what's happening is that it's about seizing assets. It's it's David Webb. It's a great taking. It's about, well, you'll earn nothing.
• 1:02:16
  You'll be happy because we'll be controlling everything and, you know, getting to just solutions. I know you talk about so I talk about this is that we have to take action into our own personal lives, into our own communities, and how we're living, get more off of the grid in the ways that we can resist the technology, even out of principle. Right? Even if it means you're waiting in line at the airport for extra fifteen minutes, out of principle, I will not abide by these things. So Right.
• 1:02:41
  Mel K: It's not yours. My my my eye scans, my handprints, my my what's happening inside my body, inside of my home is not or to my children. But I also would just wanna add to that because I know we're losing time, and then you'll come on my show to continue it. But I have to say that, don't forget that in the Dodd Frank bill, they put in the option of bail ins. Bail ins changed us to, creditors for the banks, and that is exactly what they're about to do in the EU.
• 1:03:10
  And, again, I I I do not understand why people aren't why more nations aren't doing their own Brexit with what is going on, but that's because, I believe France, Germany are really and The UK are really controlling much of that. But we do but we can fight back against the concept of the bail in. We can fight back against all that stuff. And, of course, I wrote Americans Anonymous to kind of lay this all out how we got here. And like what you're saying is very much what I'm saying, which is your sphere of influence, your ability to make change, to to be a positive change maker is completely possible if you just get involved in your local community.
• 1:03:55
  I think every local community, I would hope to see all around the country, should be starting their own Doge. Not waiting for you know, I saw somebody I guess it was Ben. I was talking to Gavin Newsom who's totally fraudulently trying to change his image for 2028 with a podcast. But I I I I just think everyone should be looking at Doge and saying, you know what? I'm gonna see if my local community wants to have a a a citizen led Doge to look up all this stuff.
• 1:04:25
  What NGOs are in your own backyard? What is coming in that is against the constitution in terms of your fourth, fifth amendment and and other things? You know, what track and trace surveillance is being put in? You know? What NGOs?
• 1:04:37
  What what lobbying firms? What UN sustainable stuff is in your own backyard? If we could get more people and then have, you know, an uprising of, you know what? This is still our country. We still make the choice because that's what needs to happen now.
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  It's not just anti war or anti military industrial complex. I believe it's all connected to the global public infrastructure. And, at what level do the American people say, you crossed the red line? No. And I don't see even any of that.
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  So that's why it's really important to talk about this stuff. And, like, I wrote my book about this because it's gonna be the American people right now are the problem and the solution. And, you know, just like Americans anonymous, it goes by the addict thing. The addict is the problem and solution and and then tapping into your god given higher power or your your soul and and determining your destiny will go away if we don't put a big stop sign at least in America. And, frankly, I believe if America does that, it won't work anywhere.
• 1:05:44
  There's they'll still need us no matter what they say. I do see Trump starting I think that he is trying to isolate us from the central bank digital currency, but with another digital option. So where do where are the lines with that? We're not asking for that. We're not asking our representatives to most of them are compromised, obviously, but we need to start to really look at what are the consequences of walking blindly into the future fourth industrial revolution of technology.
• 1:06:13
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And education is key. These shows Yeah. Reading information. I'll pull up your website, the Mel Kay
• 1:06:20
  Mel K: show Oh, thank you so much.
• 1:06:21
  Seth Holehouse: .Com, of course, at Google. Because you have this great resources page. Right? So you go pay for resources. This is what we have to do.
• 1:06:27
  This is to me. This is taking responsibility. It's reading. It's reading their documents, which you've made it really easy to find all kinds of information. You've got it organized based upon saving the children versus, you know, looking at alpha agencies, election integrity, etcetera.
• 1:06:42
  Mel K: And, also, the opposition playbooks are, yeah, are really important because what I what I do want people to know is that the World Bank, the UN, UNESCO, they don't hide what they're doing. You know? So we do have to look into that. And I think it's really important, but I have a lot of things on there that you can look up and you'll say, oh my god. They're not even hiding it.
• 1:07:05
  But if people aren't looking, then, you know, then they're the problem. And and what I'd really I I mean, I just wanna say because I babbled on and on is that I believe in the in humanity. I believe in individuals, having way more power than they think they have. I believe in empowering people by empowering them with knowledge to empower themselves. Like, people need to decide that they are going to be the one that stands up where they are, and then other people will stand as well.
• 1:07:35
  I know there's that great quote by Andrew Breitbart that I always took very seriously that if you stand up and you make a stand, other people will realize they can too, and they will as well. And that's what I hope maybe people watching this right now will say to themselves, well, let me look into my community. Like, what is Doge doing, and can I do it here, and how would that work? And they it is possible. But you have to realize that I mean, you the the American people have to realize that we do still have the power now.
• 1:08:06
  But now is the time to behave as if we run this country, and we have red lines that the government is not allowed to cross. And the government includes now, obviously, big tech and, the military tech because there's not gonna be wars fought the old way. And, we need to start paying attention to what is violating the constitution in that realm and start pushing back in a major way.
• 1:08:32
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. So I'll bring up your website one last time. It's the Melodyshow.com. You you have your your your listen, your stream rumble, you know, your social media are on here, but also the, your book, Americans Anonymous. Yeah.
• 1:08:46
  So this is where people can find more information on it. They can buy the book. They can learn more about you, everything that you're doing. And you're, you know, you're exactly what we need to be doing. You're an example of that.
• 1:08:56
  Right? You know, you're not some, you clear journalist. You're someone that saw a need, and you said, look, this information has to get out there, and that's what you're fighting for. And so whether it's creating a podcast or whether it's watching a podcast and sharing that podcast with all of our friends and say, hey, follow these two people, Seth and Mel. Make sure you're following them because we have to be educated.
• 1:09:15
  We have to and that's really that's the first part. Right? That's an it's informed consent. It's like your research, you'll spend three hours researching the best toaster to get to get. So how about we research how to save our country from digital prison?
• 1:09:27
  So
• 1:09:28
  Mel K: I agree.
• 1:09:29
  Seth Holehouse: It's always a a pleasure speaking with you. Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you for giving me your time, and I look forward to coming on to your show next.
• 1:09:36
  Mel K: I can't wait. Thank you so much, sir. I really, really appreciate you and all your work.
• 1:09:40
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. Care.
• 1:09:41
  Mel K: Thank you.
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