Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Jack Joyce | Former FDNY Drafts Petition to Make 9/11 Memorial a National Monument
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Giovanni Gallante.
- 0:01Speaker 2: It's eighty one, nine hundred and fifty two, I believe,
- 0:04Speaker 2: And when we spoke, I only had about fifteen hundred
- 0:09Speaker 2: two thousand. You didn't give you enough enough credit for
- 0:13Speaker 2: your your listeners and the support that I've gotten. They
- 0:17Speaker 2: love you, they love this petition.
- 0:20Speaker 3: I have to say. I called you back and I said,
- 0:23Speaker 3: I want.
- 0:23Speaker 2: To come on the show, and I want to thank
- 0:24Speaker 2: everyone that sent me emails, everyone that signed the petition, and.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Everyone that's sharing it. They've been great.
- 0:31Speaker 2: I got to say, your audience is spectacular.
- 0:35Speaker 1: I went to a party I told you this years ago.
- 0:37Speaker 4: I think it was a massive pequal and I sat
- 0:40Speaker 4: down with my wife and there was a mass card
- 0:44Speaker 4: there and I'll never forget. The gentleman's name was George Kane.
- 0:48Speaker 4: I didn't know him, but it turns out he was
- 0:51Speaker 4: an FDNI Firefighter latter seven and he was killed on
- 0:55Speaker 4: not eleven and we still have that mask card.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Daniell and Night.
- 0:59Speaker 4: I don't know him, I don't know what family members.
- 1:01Speaker 4: I know very little about him, but it's weird. It
- 1:05Speaker 4: really stuck with me. And then I get this tax
- 1:09Speaker 4: from Jen Harrison and she sends me this letter that
- 1:14Speaker 4: this guy Caine's sister Nancy Knee, sent to President Trump
- 1:19Speaker 4: like a decade ago about making sure the family members
- 1:24Speaker 4: of the nine to eleven victims that were murdered are
- 1:27Speaker 4: able to see that family remains and not have to
- 1:29Speaker 4: stand online, not to worry about museum hours and all that.
- 1:33Speaker 4: And it seemed pretty logical to me. So, just like
- 1:37Speaker 4: Allante's petition, I'm on board with this one too. And
- 1:41Speaker 4: I guess the gentleman that started this petition is a
- 1:44Speaker 4: guy named Jack Joyce, and he's actually on the phone
- 1:49Speaker 4: right now, Jack, Good morning, buddy.
- 1:51Speaker 3: How are you good? Mindset? How are you?
- 1:53Speaker 1: It's great to have you. Are you on Long Island?
- 1:56Speaker 3: No, I'm actually overlooking Lake George right now. I'm I'm
- 1:59Speaker 3: usually Long Island, but I'm up vacation up in Lake Georgia.
- 2:02Speaker 4: I love it up there, Glens Falls and Saratoga.
- 2:04Speaker 1: It's gorgeous up there. Yep.
- 2:06Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm pretty sure that I got the mass
- 2:10Speaker 4: cart for this gentleman, Michael Kaine at a party in
- 2:13Speaker 4: massive Peque. In fact, then I was even friends with
- 2:15Speaker 4: one of the Bodman brothers, not Stephen, but Billy, you
- 2:18Speaker 4: do not to be a complete asshole. But anyway, so
- 2:22Speaker 4: I saw this name, Michael Kaine has kind of haunted
- 2:26Speaker 4: me for the last twenty five years. And then I'm
- 2:29Speaker 4: made aware of this letter that his sister sent to
- 2:32Speaker 4: President Trump's If you wouldn't mind, Jack, give me some
- 2:35Speaker 4: background on this story and how you did a great
- 2:38Speaker 4: job by starting your petition.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Well, Rosemary Kine is George Kane's mother, and that was
- 2:46Speaker 3: assist me. She I also I posted a letter from
- 2:50Speaker 3: her mother also who as the president, to make the
- 2:54Speaker 3: World Trade Center a true national memorial run by the
- 2:57Speaker 3: US Park Service. Ninety nine percent of America thinks that
- 3:01Speaker 3: the US Parks Service, you know, would would run this.
- 3:05Speaker 3: They're not. It's run by a private organization. And we're
- 3:10Speaker 3: trying to put the World Trade Center in a trifle
- 3:14Speaker 3: place along with the two national memorials, right, you know, Gettysburg,
- 3:20Speaker 3: the USS Arizona, you know, and the Light. I mean,
- 3:24Speaker 3: this is where twenty seven hundred and fifty three people
- 3:27Speaker 3: were murdered, and much more have passed away since then.
- 3:34Speaker 3: The firefighters, including myself I'm a battalion chief, retired because
- 3:38Speaker 3: of nine to eleven. I've had two cancers so far
- 3:40Speaker 3: and I'm going through another process. I'm going through another
- 3:43Speaker 3: process right now. I'm sorry. Now listen, we look forward,
- 3:47Speaker 3: we don't look back, except for one thing we never forget.
- 3:50Speaker 3: And that's what I did. So twenty something years ago
- 3:52Speaker 3: and the nine eleven families came up to me and
- 3:54Speaker 3: asked me to help them to get this thing done.
- 3:56Speaker 3: And I'm saying, twenty three years I've been down in
- 3:58Speaker 3: Congress walking the way walls of Congress with them, Rosemary Kane,
- 4:04Speaker 3: moren Centaura Richie, Jimmy Richie's who tragically passed away from
- 4:11Speaker 3: nine to eleven. Yeah, you go. I mean, Jimmy was
- 4:14Speaker 3: a great guy. And so what I'm trying to do
- 4:16Speaker 3: is just make aware to make the world traits in
- 4:20Speaker 3: the National Memorial. Now September eighteenth of twenty twenty four,
- 4:24Speaker 3: out in Nasall Colosseum, I called the Boss, but people
- 4:29Speaker 3: camed the President these days. But the President said that
- 4:33Speaker 3: he would make it a true national memorial in the
- 4:36Speaker 3: honor of There was about sixty nine eleven families members
- 4:39Speaker 3: that were there. They didn't know that's just going to happen.
- 4:43Speaker 3: And I was made aware of it, and you know,
- 4:45Speaker 3: I bought them all in you know, to have them,
- 4:47Speaker 3: and they were all surprised because they've been working on
- 4:49Speaker 3: so long to get this done. They just feel that
- 4:52Speaker 3: no politician, no political party should run it. There's no Democrat,
- 4:58Speaker 3: no Republican, and it's an American tragedy. This is where
- 5:02Speaker 3: Americans were killed and that's the way it should be.
- 5:05Speaker 3: So I got the petition up and run. Just like
- 5:08Speaker 3: you you mentioned Giovanni Delante's petition. I've talked to him
- 5:13Speaker 3: about his and joined his thing, and and this is
- 5:17Speaker 3: where we are. We're trying to do it, and some
- 5:19Speaker 3: of the people are a little apprehensive filling out this
- 5:23Speaker 3: petition because they don't know where all the information goes.
- 5:25Speaker 3: And just for your information, this was donated by a
- 5:29Speaker 3: company they want to remain anonymous, and all the information
- 5:32Speaker 3: actually goes nowhere, goes back to the nine to eleven families,
- 5:36Speaker 3: So there's no third party anything that'd call you up
- 5:39Speaker 3: or anything like that. So that's where we are, and
- 5:42Speaker 3: you know, it's it's taken off, I mean on Facebook
- 5:45Speaker 3: and everywhere else. We're getting a lot of traction on it,
- 5:48Speaker 3: and you know, I would like to see this happen
- 5:51Speaker 3: on a twenty fifth year. I know, it's it's you know,
- 5:55Speaker 3: if if I don't know, if you remember January this year,
- 6:00Speaker 3: great Governor Kathy Hochel decided to illuminate the World Trade
- 6:04Speaker 3: Center green and that was in honor of Muslim months
- 6:09Speaker 3: and that didn't go over to Will Day and a
- 6:11Speaker 3: lot of the families, And if any of your listeners
- 6:14Speaker 3: want to look that up, please do because the whole
- 6:16Speaker 3: month of January, I get Veterans Day or the veterans
- 6:20Speaker 3: get one day and Muslim monk on the green light.
- 6:25Speaker 3: So also maya Mundami as you saw and saw the
- 6:28Speaker 3: pictures in the Fight Department headquarters put the prayer rugs
- 6:33Speaker 3: out in front of the nine to eleven Memorial in
- 6:36Speaker 3: the lobby. Yeah, so you know, it's creeping back into
- 6:41Speaker 3: the World Trades in a site and other places. And
- 6:43Speaker 3: I think I think the best thing we could ever
- 6:46Speaker 3: do and honor those people, including George, George Kane, you know,
- 6:51Speaker 3: Jimmy Richie's a whole bunch of frying friends that were killed,
- 6:55Speaker 3: is to make the World Trade Center national Memorial, true
- 6:57Speaker 3: national memorial run by the US Box Service.
- 7:00Speaker 4: I can't believe, Yeah, I can't believe this is even
- 7:02Speaker 4: a debate at this point by the way, Peter King
- 7:04Speaker 4: checks in the former great congressman. He said, George Kane's mother, Rosemary,
- 7:08Speaker 4: is a great friend, His brother Dan is terrific. One
- 7:10Speaker 4: of George's sisters worked at Fox, and Peter King actually
- 7:14Speaker 4: spoke at George's funeral.
- 7:15Speaker 1: So just not to get confused.
- 7:17Speaker 4: So your petition is to make the World Trade Center,
- 7:20Speaker 4: which I'm behind one hundred percent, a national memorial, not
- 7:24Speaker 4: the one where people like Caine's sister, they want to
- 7:28Speaker 4: make sure that they can go see the remains of
- 7:33Speaker 4: their families and loved ones without standing online with a
- 7:37Speaker 4: bunch of tourists and having to worry about the museum ours.
- 7:40Speaker 1: That's not yours, that's not mine.
- 7:42Speaker 4: Okay, So you want to make the World Trade Center
- 7:45Speaker 4: a national memorial, President Trump, I would imagine I was
- 7:48Speaker 4: there that day, I think at Nasau Coliseum when it
- 7:52Speaker 4: was campaigning. It was right before I spoke for him
- 7:54Speaker 4: at Madison Square Garden. He brought it up, so he's
- 7:57Speaker 4: aware of it. He wants to do it. Take a
- 8:00Speaker 4: whisper in the President's Aaron Dallas in a couple of weeks,
- 8:04Speaker 4: But I'm willing to do that to help.
- 8:06Speaker 3: Forward this for you. I can't. I can't tell you
- 8:09Speaker 3: should how much this would mean, not only to all
- 8:11Speaker 3: the nine eleven families were all of America. Everyone knows
- 8:14Speaker 3: where they were. Everyone, you know. It's just if you
- 8:18Speaker 3: asked one hundred people if the world of US Park
- 8:22Speaker 3: Service was running at ninety nine point nine, would tell
- 8:25Speaker 3: you I thought, so they're running. Well, Shanksville is run
- 8:28Speaker 3: by the US Box Service and the Pentagon is run
- 8:31Speaker 3: they're building a building next to the Pentagon. But because
- 8:34Speaker 3: the Pentagon is in the Department of Defense, because it's military,
- 8:38Speaker 3: they have their own thing run by the US Box Service.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Now we have the Statute of Liberty right across the street.
- 8:43Speaker 3: It's not even an issue about where the US pok
- 8:46Speaker 3: Service is going to be. And here's one other one
- 8:48Speaker 3: that you know, it's it's it's it's great. I have
- 8:50Speaker 3: no problem with. But President Obama designated the Stonewall in
- 8:56Speaker 3: memorial So I mean, that's that's great. I have no
- 8:59Speaker 3: problem that. But you know what we have. We're twenty
- 9:02Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty fifty three thousand people were murdered,
- 9:07Speaker 3: and you know, these these poor families are just asking
- 9:11Speaker 3: for something simple. This is not a big ask it's
- 9:14Speaker 3: not so. I've been on this thing for twenty something
- 9:17Speaker 3: years and finally got President Trump to, you know, say
- 9:21Speaker 3: that the world at the National Coliseum. That's great.
- 9:25Speaker 4: I think we can move this forward. This is Jack Joyce,
- 9:28Speaker 4: a brave firefighter. He's been yell a couple of times
- 9:32Speaker 4: since nine to eleven. He lost a lot of friends
- 9:34Speaker 4: that day, and he's trying to do something that I
- 9:35Speaker 4: thought was done. I'm not going to lie to you.
- 9:37Speaker 4: I really thought it was a memorial part of the
- 9:40Speaker 4: National Parks. I had no idea. I literally just found
- 9:43Speaker 4: this out from you five minutes ago, which is shocking,
- 9:47Speaker 4: and there's no excuse for it. I'm not okay with it.
- 9:49Speaker 4: What do you think about Galante's petition? Though, mister Jack
- 9:54Speaker 4: as a as a former firefighter.
- 9:56Speaker 3: I will be there. I will be there. I signed
- 9:59Speaker 3: that petition. I talked to him almost right away. We
- 10:01Speaker 3: were back and forth, and I commended him on his mission.
- 10:06Speaker 3: He's a nine to eleven family member, I mean, his
- 10:09Speaker 3: his wife. He has nothing left of his wife, he
- 10:12Speaker 3: has nothing but the memory. It's it's horrible.
- 10:14Speaker 1: So you don't think the mayor should be there?
- 10:16Speaker 3: Right? No way. I don't think the mayor should be there,
- 10:20Speaker 3: not the way, not with his attitude and when he's
- 10:22Speaker 3: he's talking about in the father and everything else. Now
- 10:26Speaker 3: he's not. He's not. He's not.
- 10:28Speaker 4: And you're a pretty savvy guy. You've been around the
- 10:30Speaker 4: city many many years. Are you aware of anything in
- 10:34Speaker 4: the mayor's job description? For example, he does run the
- 10:37Speaker 4: police department, he has to balance the budget, he's got
- 10:40Speaker 4: to make life affordable and safe in New Yorkers. Are
- 10:43Speaker 4: you aware of anything in his job description that makes
- 10:46Speaker 4: it mandatory for him to be at the World Trade Center?
- 10:51Speaker 3: No, No, there's nothing mandatory. Well he didn't go to
- 10:53Speaker 3: the the Israeli de prademitting Nope. Well so let's I
- 10:58Speaker 3: don't see what is what his issue is. Maybe he
- 11:00Speaker 3: can take a day off until somewhere.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Be nice, right?
- 11:03Speaker 4: I mean, do you do you like the idea that
- 11:05Speaker 4: Bruce Blakeman was on this show a couple of weeks
- 11:07Speaker 4: ago when he for governor and he said, do what
- 11:09Speaker 4: the cop said to the Blasio, just turn your backs
- 11:11Speaker 4: on him.
- 11:12Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
- 11:13Speaker 3: I think that's a good idea. And actually I had
- 11:16Speaker 3: a conversation with Bruce Blakeman a couple of weeks ago
- 11:18Speaker 3: out in this club, country club. He invited me out
- 11:21Speaker 3: to talk about this, and he said, if he's beings governor,
- 11:24Speaker 3: he would make sure that it's done.
- 11:26Speaker 4: And he's not kidding. I don't know if you know this,
- 11:28Speaker 4: but his nephew was murdered. His sister, he Linda's son
- 11:31Speaker 4: was murdered.
- 11:32Speaker 3: You know, no, he told me. He told me. And
- 11:33Speaker 3: he also was in charge of the Port Authority of
- 11:35Speaker 3: New York and New Jersey. He was running the Trade
- 11:38Speaker 3: Center from two thousand and one in two thousand and nine,
- 11:39Speaker 3: and he was He's adamant, according to what he's telling me,
- 11:43Speaker 3: he was adamant that this thing he moved over. So
- 11:46Speaker 3: here's another good guy that's you know, we need to
- 11:49Speaker 3: back and get behind a republic.
- 11:51Speaker 4: You know, you know another good guy in a republic
- 11:53Speaker 4: which is no. So do me a favor because I'm
- 11:55Speaker 4: going to actually take this audio, Jack Joyce, I promise you,
- 11:57Speaker 4: I'm going to take this audio. I'm going to to
- 12:00Speaker 4: President Trump as soon as you and I are done.
- 12:03Speaker 4: Just give me one more passionate plea about what you
- 12:06Speaker 4: want done here for the families of nine to eleven,
- 12:09Speaker 4: and I'll text it to Trump I promise.
- 12:12Speaker 3: You got it? You ready? I am President Trump. Please
- 12:18Speaker 3: follow through what your promise that you made September eighteen,
- 12:20Speaker 3: twenty twenty four at the National Coliseum. Make the World
- 12:26Speaker 3: Trade Center a true national memorial run by the US
- 12:29Speaker 3: Park Service, and the nation will be furever thankful, and
- 12:35Speaker 3: especially in the nine to eleven families will be in
- 12:38Speaker 3: your heart.
- 12:40Speaker 4: It's perfect. God, that's perfect. I don't know you, man,
- 12:43Speaker 4: but I think I love you.
- 12:44Speaker 1: You sounds like such a great guy, Jack Joyce.
- 12:46Speaker 4: When you get back to when you get back to
- 12:48Speaker 4: civilization and you leave the beautiful upstate New York, you
- 12:52Speaker 4: hope me to stop by the city. I'll take you
- 12:53Speaker 4: full lunch. It's nice to meet your palm. Thank you
- 12:55Speaker 4: for all your service.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Sid, Thank you so much for getting us out there.
- 12:59Speaker 3: I think everybod is going to be shocked, like yourself. Really,
- 13:02Speaker 3: nobody realized that this is going on. And I think
- 13:05Speaker 3: it needs to be taken over by the National Park Service.
- 13:08Speaker 1: No question.
- 13:08Speaker 4: Like I said, I thought I already was. But we'll
- 13:11Speaker 4: help get this thing done. Jack Joyce, you're a hero.
- 13:14Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Thanks San, you have a great thing, you too.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Jack Choyce, Right, there, former firefighter, and he's been through
- 13:20Speaker 4: a lot, been sick a couple of times, but.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Trying to make the World Trade Center.
- 13:24Speaker 4: I thought it was part of the National Parks Department,
- 13:27Speaker 4: and I'm shocked.
- 13:29Speaker 1: These are no decisions.
- 13:30Speaker 4: This is easy, right, What are we even talking about here?
- 13:34Speaker 4: Just make these families happy all at any This is
- 13:38Speaker 4: an easy one, but at any cost. Make these families happy.
- 13:44Speaker 4: These people want to work. And given the choice of
- 13:48Speaker 4: getting burned alive by jet fuel, young people do. Twenty
- 13:54Speaker 4: two year old kids decided to jump from the hundredth floor.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Was that was less painful than being burnt alive. And
- 14:04Speaker 4: we're having conversations as to whether or not a mayor
- 14:07Speaker 4: who's friendly with people who said we deserved it. I
- 14:10Speaker 4: don't care that Assan Piker took it back. He took
- 14:12Speaker 4: it back again this weekend as he made fun of
- 14:14Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk. What a piece of garbage he is. I'll
- 14:17Speaker 4: say this right now, if I ever face to face
- 14:20Speaker 4: with Hassan Piker, I'll punch him across the face. You
- 14:23Speaker 4: want to print it, you want to get me in trouble,
- 14:25Speaker 4: I don't care.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Is it a threat?
- 14:26Speaker 4: Yeah? If I ever see Hassan Piker. He walks up
- 14:30Speaker 4: to me that bastard America deserved nine to eleven, and
- 14:33Speaker 4: we are Charlie Kirk singing and joking about the assassination
- 14:37Speaker 4: of that.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Beautiful young man. I don't know what I would do.
- 14:40Speaker 1: I really don't.
- 14:41Speaker 4: So we're actually arguing whether or not the mayor should
- 14:44Speaker 4: be there, as if that's part of his job description,
- 14:47Speaker 4: because every other mayor went, every other mayor, including the
- 14:50Speaker 4: worst Bill de Blasio, was it hanging out with Hassan
- 14:53Speaker 4: Piker or co conspirators of the nineteen ninety three Raw
- 14:57Speaker 4: Trade Center bombing or wring people who actually worked to
- 15:02Speaker 4: defend al Qaeda. That's Mom, Donnie. That's exclusive to Mom Donnie.
- 15:07Speaker 4: It's not any other mayor. And to make this part
- 15:11Speaker 4: of the National Parks Department, are we nuts?
- 15:14Speaker 1: What are we doing here? So now I'm on this too.
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