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High Strangeness at Dudley Town with Cult of Conspiracy · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: I welcome to the occult rejects this episode. I got
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  Speaker 3: Lisa the occult reject to Mad Scientists, What is up
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  Speaker 4: How's it going? Thank you for inviting me. This looks
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, thank you very much. And we got Colby and
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  Speaker 3: Julia joining us. It's been a minute since Kolby's been on.
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  Speaker 3: Very fucking excited finally get my man back on here.
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  Speaker 3: What is going on with both of you? How will you.
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  Speaker 5: Doing well? Thanks for having me back on. I'm excited
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  Speaker 5: to meet Jonathan and Jacob. Listen to their show probably
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  Speaker 5: daily at this point I mean they've put like but
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  Speaker 5: like fourteen out a week now that. Yeah, I'm really
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  Speaker 5: digging the Tavistock one right now. I'm in like episode
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  Speaker 5: two of that. I'm really looking forward to the third one.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, good work on that.
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  Speaker 3: Yoh.
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  Speaker 6: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 7: That was one of those things where just kind of
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  Speaker 7: a I had heard a thing I'd heard of, Oh, Tavistock,
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  Speaker 7: this English group, they've been breaking down the American culture
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  Speaker 7: for decades, and I'm like, yeah, i'll do a little
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  Speaker 7: dig in, we'll shoot a little show about it. I
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  Speaker 7: had no fucking clue that this was going to be
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  Speaker 7: at least three full episodes in the content time, and
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  Speaker 7: then when I found out how deep down that rabbit
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  Speaker 7: hole it was, it was like, dude, we could easily
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  Speaker 7: make twenty episodes out of this.
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  Speaker 6: It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: Your whole podcast even just a podcast.
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  Speaker 7: For real shit, it goes back to the nineteen fourteen
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  Speaker 7: or some shit, and it hasn't stopped it today, and
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  Speaker 7: it's like, oh, we simply must.
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  Speaker 1: Speak on it.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, I appreciate the game recognizing game on that
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  Speaker 7: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome And uh, Julia, did you please, I'm sorry, did
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  Speaker 3: you mention that.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, well, you know, I'm on like every other day,
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  Speaker 8: so if you haven't found me, you never will. But
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  Speaker 8: you can't find me on the Cult of Conspiracy every Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, that's what. Yeah, that's why I had to
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  Speaker 3: get you off. Uh, Ethan Indigo, my man, sir, what
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  Speaker 3: is going on?
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  Speaker 2: Peace owner to be here, excited to hear what everyone
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  Speaker 2: communicates about. I'm a writer and researcher, and i just
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  Speaker 2: put out an article recently on a cult research institute
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, more to come on the esoteric and esoteric
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  Speaker 2: and salute to you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much, sir. And last but not least,
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  Speaker 3: JJ Vance, not the Vice President, was going on.
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  Speaker 1: So Nick greeting stir as always, I appreciate the invite,
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  Speaker 1: fellow rejects is always looking forward to the conversation. And
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  Speaker 1: John and Jacob, I've caught a couple of your shows there,
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  Speaker 1: like your all style and looking forward to the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, JJ Vance, host of Operation GCD,
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  Speaker 1: and perhaps more notably not the Vice President. Yes, and
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  Speaker 1: for the conversation.
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  Speaker 3: I think Grok still thinks you are right, doesn't actually.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely thinks I'm Yeah, I will tell the TwixT
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  Speaker 1: r Ai, Grock or Groke there to draw a picture
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  Speaker 1: some Operation GCD themed pictures, and all I get is
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  Speaker 1: JD vance. So you'll have that, I guess.
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  Speaker 6: I mean at this point, just kind of lean into it, right.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Don't vote for me in twenty twenty eight though, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm not running.
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  Speaker 3: I fucking love this all right. So now so now
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  Speaker 3: to the Cult of Conspiracy. Guys, Jacob, you go for us.
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  Speaker 3: Please let everybody know what is up with you. Guys.
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  Speaker 6: We are the Cult of Conspiracy. I am one half
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  Speaker 6: of it.
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  Speaker 7: Jonathan and I have been running the Cult of Conspiracy
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  Speaker 7: podcast for coming up on five years now, I think,
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  Speaker 7: and we dive into everything conspiratorial, whether it be the
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  Speaker 7: esoteric and the spiritual, whether it be the government three
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  Speaker 7: letter agencies coming together to fuck us as a collective.
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  Speaker 7: There's nothing that's really off topics for us. We come
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  Speaker 7: from very different places as far as this goes. I
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  Speaker 7: am a Marine Corps veteran, I am a Christian, and
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  Speaker 7: I have more of that type of boots on the ground,
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  Speaker 7: feet firmly planted on the ground approach, while Jonathan being
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  Speaker 7: a licensed hypnotherapist who does QHHT with a discipline and
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  Speaker 7: a real concentration into past life progressions and speaking to
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  Speaker 7: the higher self. He looks at things from a very
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  Speaker 7: esoteric and mythical type of background. So while I keep
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  Speaker 7: my feet on the ground, he keeps his heads firmly
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  Speaker 7: in the clouds. And we bring these types of different
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  Speaker 7: perspectives into any and all things that we dive into.
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  Speaker 7: So me and him, although we are very different in
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  Speaker 7: so many ways, we have found this weird gel that
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  Speaker 7: we just kind of get down with and lo and behold.
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  Speaker 6: We found out we were slowly but surely.
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  Speaker 7: Collecting lightning in a jar, and we've just kind of
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  Speaker 7: fucking the game up ever since.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you got a license hypnotherapist with you, and
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  Speaker 3: I hope they think that. Oh absolutely, man, I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna ask. I didn't know.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know you were.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that must work out well for podcasting, right, Oh.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Well it helps you to get to understand
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  Speaker 9: the mind and the subconscious and what people are kind
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  Speaker 9: of ignoring all the time.
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  Speaker 6: Whenever the signs are always there.
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  Speaker 9: Call it your intuition, call it your connection to God,
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  Speaker 9: whatever it may be, it's something that is always there,
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  Speaker 9: and it does have a lot of the answers that
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  Speaker 9: you may be searching for. I'm somebody come from a
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  Speaker 9: very esoteric, magically kind of a witchy kind of side,
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  Speaker 9: you know. I have another podcast called Meta Mysteries, and
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  Speaker 9: we dive into all of the wild shit over there.
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  Speaker 9: We've had uh, Satanic well, I don't want to say wizards,
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  Speaker 9: but people who are practicing Satanism literally chopping heads off
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  Speaker 9: of chickens and sacrificing them to certain demons of the croatia.
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  Speaker 6: And it works every time, you know.
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  Speaker 9: So, I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and say
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  Speaker 9: that I would ever do such a thing. I only
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  Speaker 9: like to dabble in sex magic personally.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, for the love of fuck. Yeah, that's why he doesn't.
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  Speaker 6: Sex magic is a whole other thing too. Do you
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  Speaker 6: do you really?
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  Speaker 3: Jan? Do you really?
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  Speaker 6: I mean I may have dabbled in time.
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  Speaker 9: You're like, actually, everybody's going to be doing it anyways,
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  Speaker 9: if you really think about it. It's just more of
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  Speaker 9: a subconscious kind of programming. So instead of allowing you know,
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  Speaker 9: if you're somebody that I don't want to get too
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  Speaker 9: graphic here, but if you're somebody that likes to watch
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  Speaker 9: a lot of porn, then you're already.
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  Speaker 6: Doing that anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the suckupist has got you.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you're only just feeding the industry.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting, old burn theory. You're just gonna happen anyway.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna make it to make sure it's controlled.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I mean literally, it's it's actually really easy.
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  Speaker 9: I didn't plan on talking about sex magic today, but essentially,
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  Speaker 9: literally you just think about whatever you're trying to manifest
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  Speaker 9: as you come up on your orgasm.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: That's a typical. Like even sigil magic, they tell you that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if you're using sexual whatever.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but uh well I'm a Christian.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good one.
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  Speaker 7: But like I said, we come from very different backgrounds
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  Speaker 7: and different perspectives.
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  Speaker 6: But that kind of makes the show what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Oh he's like, I'll just take away for a glass
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  Speaker 3: of wine and I'm good. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I mean we don't always agree on a lot, honestly,
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  Speaker 7: but they are like the key things we can agree on. Right,
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  Speaker 7: we can agree whenever we're talking about some government agency
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  Speaker 7: that's fucking us. We couldn't agree whenever this group is
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  Speaker 7: using some sort of esoteric black magic. They're not doing
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  Speaker 7: it to better mankind. They're doing it to better themselves.
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  Speaker 7: And it's that's what I'm saying. It's almost because of
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  Speaker 7: our differences that makes the cult of conspiracy what it is.
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  Speaker 3: You know. No, No, that's great, No, for sure. I
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  Speaker 3: mean that's that's say the same thing with what's going
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  Speaker 3: on on on the occult rejecks. Everybody has different angles.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody has their own like little thing and it works
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  Speaker 3: out amazing. But no, no, sorry, I didn't mean to
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  Speaker 3: like go off on that and like like put you
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  Speaker 3: on the spot. It was just when I heard that,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, oh shit, okay, let's ask him.
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  Speaker 6: Your show man. Where the No.
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  Speaker 3: No, just when he hit sex magic. I think most
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  Speaker 3: people just you know, come to whatever. So I was
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  Speaker 3: just interested to whatever.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, it's just like rituals. All rituals. Rituals are is
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  Speaker 9: just like things that you regularly do on a daily
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  Speaker 9: basis anyway, like brushing your teeth.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, make a couple of having
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  Speaker 3: my uh yeah, my black wif in the morning, very ritualistic.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, guys, Dudley Town, we're going to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, We're gonna get pretty wild.
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  Speaker 9: We covered this a few months ago, and uh, the
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  Speaker 9: rabbit hole is quite deep, and we found something that, uh,
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  Speaker 9: to be honest, only sounds like it could come from
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  Speaker 9: a Handseling Gretel movie, maybe a Blair Witch Project movie.
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  Speaker 9: And strikingly enough, they kind of ring together if you
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  Speaker 9: listen to the story of Dudley Town.
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  Speaker 6: So it's gonna get pretty wild, dude.
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  Speaker 9: There's gonna be a lot of weird like strange synchronicities
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  Speaker 9: and everything all throughout this It's gonna get a little spooky.
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  Speaker 9: So don't listen to this before bedtime indeed.
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  Speaker 7: And I should also make this mention now for anybody
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  Speaker 7: who's questioning the validity of this story. Right to make
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  Speaker 7: it sound like it's it's just a creepy pasta. It's
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  Speaker 7: one of those Internet things. Keep in mind that to
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  Speaker 7: this day, if you go near the grounds of the
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  Speaker 7: Dark Entrance Forest on the way to Dudley Town and
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  Speaker 7: you're caught, you get thrown in jail, no questions asked. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: this is still to this way the way it is. Look,
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  Speaker 7: they have highway patrol that go around this area looking
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  Speaker 7: for stragglers who try to make their way into this town.
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  Speaker 7: It is forbidden by all parties still currently today.
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  Speaker 3: I did find that I can justify I When I
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  Speaker 3: scraam across that, I was like, obviously, must not be
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  Speaker 3: all bullshit because they won't even let you into the
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  Speaker 3: fucking place. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that whole area is kind of creepy. It's all
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  Speaker 1: got of a very en I mean, sleepy hollow. New
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  Speaker 1: York's not far away, but that's kind a very sleepy
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  Speaker 1: hollow vibe through there. I actually I hail from Fairfield County, Connecticut,
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  Speaker 1: just just south of Witchfield County there.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Oh, so you're ready to remember.
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  Speaker 1: Those spooky regions if you will.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Fairfield is one of those uh witch trial places.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Fairfield's a lot of things, yes, sir, It's home
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of It's basically a den of iniquity,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like Westchester County, New York, if you ask me.
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  Speaker 6: But fair enough.
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  Speaker 7: But okay, So you growing up in and around that area,
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  Speaker 7: you heard about this story or the dark Entry Forest
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  Speaker 7: in all of this or was it still kind of
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  Speaker 7: one of those folklorish things that most people don't know about.
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  Speaker 1: No, I definitely heard about it. I moved away from
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  Speaker 1: there as a child. And but I have my My
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  Speaker 1: family goes back to the founding of that area, So
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of family up in that region,
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  Speaker 1: you know, extended families and whatnot. So no, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's something, folks, it's it's common folklore in the area.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, all right, So it basically it starts.
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  Speaker 9: Dudley Town was settled in the mid seventeen hundreds by
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  Speaker 9: a handful of families, including the infamous Dudley family. It
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  Speaker 9: was tucked away in the woods of Cornwall, Connecticut. The
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  Speaker 9: land was rocky, the soil was infertile, and the isolation intense.
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  Speaker 9: Farming failed, people struggled. One by one, families began to
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  Speaker 9: either die off or disappear. The town was eventually abandoned,
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  Speaker 9: leaving behind nothing but crumbling stone foundations and overgrown force trails.
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  Speaker 9: But the legend didn't die. It only grew. And that's
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  Speaker 9: when the rumors of a curse began to spread. So
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  Speaker 9: that's really where it all started, back in the seventeen hundreds,
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  Speaker 9: and allegedly it had something to do with the Dudley
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  Speaker 9: family coming in there and settling. And it gets pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 9: So whenever we talk about the curses. According to one
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  Speaker 9: version of the legend, the so called Dudley Curse began
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  Speaker 9: in fifteen ten when Edmund Dudley, an English nobleman, was
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  Speaker 9: executed for treason. His bloodline, it said, was cursed. From
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  Speaker 9: that moment on. Supposedly, his descendants led to the New
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  Speaker 9: World and unknowingly brought the darkness with them to a
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  Speaker 9: place that would eventually become Dudley Town. Now here's the thing.
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  Speaker 9: So historians like Reverend Gary Dudley have tried to debunk
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  Speaker 9: this curse. He claims that there's no genealogical link between
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  Speaker 9: the Connecticut Dudley's and the doomed English trader. But if
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  Speaker 9: that's true, then how do we explain the wild lists
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  Speaker 9: of madness and death and mystery that we're about to
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  Speaker 9: get into. So there's a bunch of really strange things
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  Speaker 9: that happened in Dudley Town which kind of started all
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  Speaker 9: of the lore and a lot of the myth. The
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  Speaker 9: first one is is that there was this general Herman Swift.
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  Speaker 6: He was living in Dudleyville.
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  Speaker 9: His wife was struck by lightning and died on their
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  Speaker 9: front porch, and then he reportedly lost his mind shortly
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  Speaker 9: after and died. People don't know whether he wandered into
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  Speaker 9: the forest or what. It's kind of unknown how he died,
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  Speaker 9: but he I guess he went mad.
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  Speaker 6: H give the distinction.
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  Speaker 7: Also, there are countless stories of people who just like
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  Speaker 7: decided to walk into the woods and were never seen again.
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  Speaker 7: Now they're like so many that we can't even like
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  Speaker 7: keep a record of how many there are. But you'll
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  Speaker 7: notice that as these stories gone, that's a reoccurring theme
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  Speaker 7: of like no one really knows, but it's believed they
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  Speaker 7: just wandered into the forest alone and was never seen again.
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  Speaker 7: This town kind of has that uh stigma.
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  Speaker 6: With it it do. It's kind of like the suicide
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  Speaker 6: forest over there in was that Japan?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in japan O. That shit is crazy that place.
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  Speaker 6: It is.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed.
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  Speaker 7: Now the other thing too, they're saying that it may
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  Speaker 7: have come from the Dudley curse from England. There are
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  Speaker 7: some that believe that it was because of a Native
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  Speaker 7: American burial ground that they didn't know.
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  Speaker 6: That they had settled upon.
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  Speaker 7: Some believe that it's because of the witch trials that
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  Speaker 7: took place with the Puritan movement. There's so many hypotheticals,
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  Speaker 7: but nothing that we can absolutely concrete nailed down to
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  Speaker 7: be the reason for the curse. But everybody can at
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  Speaker 7: least agree that there is something cursed about this place.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, are.
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  Speaker 8: The dudleyst like elite family or anything like?
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  Speaker 4: Did they?
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  Speaker 8: I'm over on like the Mayflower like all the rest
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  Speaker 8: of the elite fucks with all the weird curses and shit.
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  Speaker 7: Well, no, it says that he was an English nobleman.
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  Speaker 7: Though he was a nobleman, but I mean, we don't
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  Speaker 7: know to what level. I'm sure we could look at
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  Speaker 7: the English records and see. I don't think he was
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  Speaker 7: an earl or something of like the upper echelon of elites.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think he had a fiefdom necessarily. He was
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  Speaker 7: probably a lower level Sir Dudley.
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  Speaker 8: Right, just like your average scumbag.
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  Speaker 6: Kind of right.
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  Speaker 7: But they settled the town in the seventeen forties, so
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  Speaker 7: this is pre this is colonial America, but it was
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  Speaker 7: pre Decoration of Independence and all of that. It was
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  Speaker 7: still British colonies, all these things, And it would make
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  Speaker 7: sense if it was.
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  Speaker 6: A family of bridge of Uh, what's the word I'm
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  Speaker 6: looking for?
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  Speaker 7: Dishonored British noblemans that came to a new place to
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  Speaker 7: try to re establish themselves and make, you know, make
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  Speaker 7: their way, so to speak. And that's a story that
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  Speaker 7: we hear recurring. A lot of the people that were
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  Speaker 7: not exiled from England but saw no future of advancement there.
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  Speaker 7: It would make sense that they would come over he
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  Speaker 7: and set up a land of some type, a farm
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  Speaker 7: of some type, to try to make more advancing for
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  Speaker 7: their bloodline. This is this is not an unprecedented occurrence.
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  Speaker 7: But for them to go into the absolute sticks, this town,
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  Speaker 7: especially in the seventeen forties, it's not like it was
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  Speaker 7: near some sort of a bustling metropolis. It was in
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  Speaker 7: the middle of the Sticks, like forty miles away from
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  Speaker 7: any other little village of any type. And I mean,
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  Speaker 7: seventeen forties forty miles is a lot different than twenty
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  Speaker 7: twenty five forty miles, you know what I'm saying here,
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  Speaker 7: it's a it's a little drive away. Back then, that
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  Speaker 7: was a full day or two's journey to make it
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  Speaker 7: from point A to point B.
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  Speaker 6: So they set up with the intention of it being
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: off the beaten path and where nobody, not nobody could
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: find it, but you would have to know where to
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: go in order to find it, you know what I mean.
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's and actually it was a it was
• 15:47
  Speaker 9: a Dudley curse. So whenever Edmund Dudley came over in
• 15:50
  Speaker 9: fifteen ten, all this crazy shit didn't really start happening
• 15:54
  Speaker 9: in Dudley Town until the seventeen hundreds.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: So it's almost like a bloodline kind of curse.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. As far as these bloodlines, You're
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: already mentioned in the nobility class of some of these
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: folks where they came from. That swift Fella and many
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: of the folks that settled Litchfield County as a result
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: of getting land warrants from a serviance service in the
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Revolutionary War. That swift Fella was a close associate of Washington.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: He was a colonel out of the Connecticut chapter of
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: the secret Society that started this country, the Society of
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati. So these are some people that are into
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: some not only a cult stuff, they're into some power
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: stuff too. So oh dude, So just a note.
• 16:32
  Speaker 9: And his wife is the one that was struck by
• 16:33
  Speaker 9: lightning and then he went crazy.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: So just going on here.
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: So another story is a man whose entire family died,
• 16:41
  Speaker 9: some to disease, some in a fire, wandered into a
• 16:44
  Speaker 9: forest and was never seen again. I guess the ones
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: that didn't die in the fire. Another story is Mary
• 16:51
  Speaker 9: Cheney and Harriet Clark both committed suicide, and in Clark's case,
• 16:55
  Speaker 9: she claimed to see demons in the forest beforehand.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: So there's that. Nobody likes that kind of shit.
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: But as another man died during a barn raising under
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: mysterious circumstances and some people believe that it was murder,
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: these are kind of just the spark notes that we're
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: going to dive.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Into more than that. Was a real barn burner, that
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: one though.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:19
  Speaker 9: So even visitors today report feelings of dread, nausea, and
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: electrical interference. Some say that they've seen shadowy figures or
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: creatures in the trees even nowadays.
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: So yeah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: And also, probably the craziest, most wild mysterious part about
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: the whole thing is that if it wasn't so mysterious
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: and lower filled and mythological damn near to this point,
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: then why is it that whenever you go to Dudley
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: Town to this day you don't hear any birds, You
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: don't hear any bugs. It is complete silence when you
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: walk into the forest.
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: There's tons of YouTube videos of this, by the way,
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: people that although yes, it's prohibited, of course because YouTubers
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: be YouTube and they get out there with their cameras
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: and they show all of the prohibited signs, no trespassing,
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: all that. The second they stepped over the gate and
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: get into what was once the road to Dudley Town,
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: you could see the dilapidated slabs of what was once houses,
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: the cobblestone, you know, structure of some type that was
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: once a chimney, probably is dead silent in the mid the.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: What is the stated reason for the abandonment and prohibition
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: of the town.
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: So it had a lot to do with the land
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: being infertile, and then something to do with there just
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: wasn't very many jobs there, so a lot of people
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: got up and left. I think that originally it may
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: have been some kind of don't quote me on this,
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: it's been a while, but some kind of coal mine
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: or something there that eventually dried up or something like that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: I know that a lot of people move there and
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: then out of nowhere, everybody either died off or left
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: and Dudley Town is really not that big. It's it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: barely even it's legally not even a towent like, it's
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: so small. It's essentially just a giant neighborhood. And so yeah,
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: it's it's got a lot of weird shit going on
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: with it, but just moving on into it as far
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: as the paranormal kind of stuff, So, paranormal investigators say
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: that Dudley Town is a dead zone, a place where
• 19:18
  Speaker 9: energies don't just linger, they feed. Some even claim that
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: there's a dimensional portal in the forest.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I was going to say that because of the silence,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I was going to bring that up. I was going
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: to bring that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 9: You hear that a lot, especially with the UFO kind
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: of stuff. It gets really quiet right before something happens.
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: So yeah, some people claim demonic entities, time slips, hallucinations.
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: It's got all the ingredients of something much deeper than
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: just a ghost story. So also, despite being completely abandoned,
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: the land is now owned by a private group called
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: the Dark Entry Forest Association. They've closed it off to
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: the public and don't allow any visitors. And their reason,
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: they say, is because they want to preserve the land
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: from so.
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: That is something that they do have.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: You have skids basically that will try to use the
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: abandoned houses in Dudley Town in the middle of the
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: woods where nobody's going to fuck with them, and they
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: use that as a spot to squat and do drugs
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: and things like that. So they there have been vandalism
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: issues in the past. However, none of that makes sense
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: as far as why it is that heavily guarded and
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: that heavily no trespassing and actual jail time associated, Like
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: it's not even like your first time caught. There's a
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: fine first time caught, you're getting slapped and thrown in.
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: That makes no sense out loud.
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: As to why it's that heavily watched well, and there's
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: not even any like protected insects or protected wildlife or
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: anything in there. So the fact that this private group
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: would just buy it and then gated off from everybody
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: to eat and heer, it's like, there's got to be
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: some weird shit going on there, especially if there's demonic
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: entities and hallucinations and there could be some kind of
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: portals and shit, could it be an alien kind of
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: hot spot? And we're gonna get to a little bit
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: as we go down there as to what else it
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: very well could be, what.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Grounds are is it built on? And dude, so listen.
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: It would also make sense to me if the land
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: was dangerous, right, if the houses were barely stood up,
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: and if they didn't want someone going in there and
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: knocking the house down on top of them, and it
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: was for public safety. There is no structures that are
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: currently standing that would be an issue in that regard.
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: It's none of the official narrative as to why no
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: one can go there actually makes sense out loud. But again,
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: this is in the Dark Entry Forest. So the Dark
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: Entry Forest Association has bought it and it's privately owned,
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: and they said no one can go in there. If
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: I'm not mistaken, Jonathan, are we getting to the last
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: family to own in the nineteen twenties?
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: We will eventually, okay?
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: All right? Yeah, just this.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: Place for like high love of radiation or anything that
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: would make people go like batshit or something like that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: Well, the people that go there like ghost hunting, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: you know, you got to sneak in because the cops
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: I guess are are watching it like very intensely. But
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: I guess if if you can sneak in What happens
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: is is those what are they like EMF readers or
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: something like that. It starts spiking like crazy, like whenever
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: you go to a haunted house. So there's got to
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: be something going on in there.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't recommend messing with those Connecticut State troopers.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Those boys are a little bit demensitive if you ask
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: me there. That was the oh man, you ain't kidding, yeah, yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: But so what was the word on the street in
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: between the Revolutionary War period of General Swift and the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenties when the Dark Entry Forest incorporated folks moved in,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: What was the what was the word around town there?
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Because I mean, obviously there was it's not that densely populated,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: but obviously more folks moved into the region during that time.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: So it's been off and on populated by different families,
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: but it's not it's never been a bustling metropolis.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: There is one story.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: Of a Civil War colonel, if I'm not mistaken who
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: After the Civil War Union, of course, he goes up
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: and settles in this town. He's sitting on his porch,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: lightning strikes through his porch and kills his wife multiple
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: lightning strikes have.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Killed people in this place.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: Multiple people have wandered off into the woods to this place.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: So it's like basically, anybody who tries to live a
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: life there just has ship happened to them.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: It's it's insane.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I would I would question the lightning strikes, actually question well,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: what's going on.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Any of this? So I like, we're all right, because
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is an area where this group, the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Society of Cincinnati would populate, Like I said, General Swift
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: there and these that group is into some weird stuff.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: If you ask me question.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: About what this area was it involved at all in
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: the French Indian War. Chance was an integral.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: We're about to get to what You're good.
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there, because there's a certain you know, Indian tribal
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: nation that is there called the Shakta Gok tribal nation,
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: and they're indigenous to the Whosatonic Valley in Connecticut. Possesses
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: a rich tapestry of traditions and stories passed down through generations.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: One notable narrative is the Firefox story, which offers insights
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: into the tribe's cultural heritage. So I actually I brought
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: a lot of these to the table because they they're
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: said to that maybe the Shakta Gok or Shaktagki, I
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: don't know exactly how to say it, but they were
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: there before a lot of this colonialism really started to
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: go down, and they have some wild shit with them.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: So obviously Native Americans they're into rituals and ceremonies and
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: offering to spirits and medicine and spiritual healing and burial
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: practices and it's fucking it's pretty wild. So whenever you
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: see that literally this is some of the land that
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: Dudley Town was literally built on top of, you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: maybe a lot of those spirits are kind of just
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: lingering around there, and maybe that's that's why a lot
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: of the stuff goes on. And I did want to
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: bring up where was it there's a oh okay, So
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: I'm kind of jumping all over the place right now.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: But because we're talking about the natives, so they have
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: this thing, and it's not just with the Shaktago tribe
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: in Connecticut, but they have this thing called a spiritual withdrawal.
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: And so in many Native traditions, the land is sacred
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: because the spirits of ancestors dwell there. If the land
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: was taken violently or desecrated. Elders or spiritual leaders might
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: withdraw their blessings, essentially abandoning the spirits or asking them
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: to go quiet. This could lead to a land becoming
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: spiritually hollow or even hostile. Such land might be described
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: as feeling dead, heavy, cursed, no animals, no growth, eerie, silence.
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: It fucking lines up, right, And this is not unprecedented.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: By the way, different tribes have different beliefs as far
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: as their connection to the land. Right we see how
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: west these native tribes that would torture enemy tribesmen or
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: something along these lines, they were very meticulous not to
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: spill an excess of blood because they truly believe that
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: once the earth takes in so much blood, it gains.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: A thirst for it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: Right, So they absolutely believe that the earth itself has
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: a spiritual nature that humans can affect with what we do.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: So if all of these elders remove their medicine and
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: remove their spirit from a land, there are some cases where,
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: like Jonathan said, it might be hollow and spirit lists,
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: but something's got to fill that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Void, right, That is just the way that life works.
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: And so with that empty void, unless some other people
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: of a good spirit come and fill the land with it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Something bad will fill the space, and this is why
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: we have possibly some of the curses that are associated
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: with this.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: To answer your question, I don't think there's any reference
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: to this spot itself being implemented in the French and
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: Indian War. However, the Shaktagoat tribe was absolutely a part
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: of the French and Indian War, if.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: They became a part of the Iroquois Confederacy later on.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: I think they share a language family with them, so
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: they absolutely were a part of it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: But I don't know for sure if Dudley Town was
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: like in the mix.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Of it or not.
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: Okay, thank you, yes, and so uh so, I do
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: want to get to a little bit more of that,
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: and of course the trials and all that kind of stuff,
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: But I kind of wanted to tie my own theory
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: into this. And I know that, you know, whenever you're
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: talking about the brothers Grim and Hanseling, Gretel and all
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: that shit, that was just stories. But you know, as
• 27:23
  Speaker 9: they say, typical people who write those stories said that,
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: you know, they don't even they don't even know where
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: they got it from. It almost just came to them
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: out of the ether, right, And and so they call
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: what is it called, like a magic writing or striving divination.
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: It's some kind of different automatic writing, automatic writing, that's it. Yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: And they all say that, you know, it just came
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: to me. I just started writing, and the story came
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: to me. So could it be the ether was already
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: in the air. Maybe they kind of siphoned it out,
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: decided to put pen to paper. And so that's kind
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: of how my mind works.
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: So as far as you know, some of the some
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: of the things that kind of match up here, as
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: far as Hansel and Gretel, so I have so all right,
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: So the Hansel and Gretel story, it also talks about
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: a dense, silent forest where people vanish. It talks about
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: cursed land hidden in the hidden, deep in the woods,
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: where innocent travelers stumble into something unholy, the crumbling remains
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: of a house, or in this case, an entire village,
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: where lives were devoured not by witches, but by something
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: far more ancient. So, if Hansel and Gretel were real kids,
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: Dudley Town is exactly the kind of place that they'd
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: get lost in and never come back from So just
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: want to throw that out there, you know, tickles your
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: your fantasy fancy and get really weird. So so, anyway,
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: getting into it as far as the Connecticut witch trials. So,
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: while in Dudley Town, located in Cornwall, Connecticut, it's renowned
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: for its eerie legends and tales of cursings curses, there
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: is no documented evidence directly linking it to historical witch
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: trials or accusations of witchcraft. However, the area's haunted reputation
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: stems from more stories of curses, mysterious deaths, and paranormal
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: activity rather than any recorded witchcraft persecutions. However, the broader
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: region of Connecticut has a notable here history of witch
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: trials that predates the infamous Salem events. So it's going
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: to get into a couple of a couple of towns
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: and or a couple of cities.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: I think, oh my god, you're.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: Not too terribly far away from Dudley Town as well,
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: which leads us to another possible theory. Yeah, yeah, the
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: Puritan movement that all sixteen hundred, so that does predate
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: Dudley Town allegedly. But is it crazy to speculate that
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: if these people that were practicing witchcraft in these areas
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: were under persecution when they heard of a new town
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: that's way off in the Stix getting founded, is it
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: crazy to think that they might have decided to make
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: their way out to this newly formed town, to Dudley
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Town and just kind of operate their witchcraft super under
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: the radar who knows well.
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: And not only just that, but even the three more
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: notable towns or cities within Connecticut that were not very
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: far away from Dudley Town is Windsor, which is forty
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: four miles away, Hartford is forty four miles away, and
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: then Weathersfield is forty eight miles away.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: So yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: So however, the broader region of Connecticut has a notable
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: history of witch trials. It predates the Salem events, as
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: I said, and so the early beginnings. So Connecticut was
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: the site of the first large scale witch trials and
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: American colonies, occurring between sixteen forty seven and sixteen sixty three,
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: nearly three decades before the Salem witch trials. The first
• 30:43
  Speaker 9: person executed for witch draft in America was Alice Young
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: of Windsor, Connecticut, who was hanged in May of sixteen
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: forty seven the extent of the trials, So throughout the period,
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: Connecticut indicted thirty four individuals for witchcraft, resulting in eleven execution.
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: These trials were characterized by a reliance on spectral evidence
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: and intense interrogation. Interrogations, spectral evidence that you're a witch,
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: imagine that, Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: You know something. Uh, I was just wondering about with
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: this situation. My opinion with the saale on witch trials,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: even going by things that like I know, Run from
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Wicked Planet has told me and just from like stuff
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: that researched in it, my opinion, I do think some
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: of the people pointing the fingers were actually, if anything,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the real witches, and it was a land grab because
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: they wanted the property that the people were living on
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: that they were making the accusations. Sure, so, like, did
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: you actually kind of maybe take a look at the
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: properties that these people were blamed for being witchcraft? Uh,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: you know, into witchcraft, like where it was where they lived,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: to see if there was any significance. I know that
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: might be like a wild thing to even think of,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm just asking them.
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's actually pretty difficult to find a lot of
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: information on this like, we found as much as we could,
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: but a lot of it is kind of like shrouded
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: in mystery. Now, I'm sure if you go to like
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: the county courthouses, maybe there's some shit going on in there.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: But I guess, like what I'm what I was, I
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: guess what I'm trying to just started like it's what
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I was. Guess what I'm just trying to, like really
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: get at is like I'm wondering if you had ocultists
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: that understood there was something up at that area and
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: they were accusing people that property that was the interest
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: It's very possible, right, But like we said, Dudley Town
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: itself on record has no witch trials that took place. Yeah, okay,
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: forty four miles and forty eight miles away, But that's
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: my point, Right, if these witches were being persecuted in
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: their villages and their towns, it would make sense that
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: they might try to go off into the woods and
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: find a new place where there was no sort of
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: a Puritan execution possibility for them, where they could operate
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: completely under the radar.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah for sure.
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: So yeah, so getting into some of the notable cases
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: as far as the quote unquote witches that were persecuted.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: So yeah, Mary Johnson.
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: So Mary Johnson was executed in sixteen forty eight, and
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: she was executed after confessing to entering into a compact
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: or packed with the devil, making the or marking the
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: earliest such confession in the colonies.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: So I wonder how they like that. They like, I
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: found this letter underneath a pillow, I mean, and it
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: says I will do anything for it, Like we won't know.
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: What torture led to her admitted, but apparently she entered
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: into a fustian bargain.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, you stuck people's fingers off to play admit
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: to anything with.
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: This plady in particular, there's a whole documentary about her
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: on HBO right now. I just watched it, and it
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: was like she admitted to witchcraft, but it was like
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: she put like huckleberry jam on somebody's like fucked up leg,
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: and that was like witch half shit, Like they were
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: just all it was like one of the least.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, it's from the perspective, right,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: because you mean, we're talking about purits and so kind
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: of putting jam on someone's leg, that's the devil that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: Was accused she like her husband was low key trying
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: to like get freak nasty with her, and then all
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: of a sudden she was getting accused of being a witch.
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: And it's like, oh why because your husband was trying
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: to fuck on the DL Like, come on.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: That's that's crazy too, that that sex alone has been
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: used to show signs of satanic influence, because if you
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: go far but enough back, a husband's trying to fuck
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: his wife and she says, no, oh well, you got
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: the devil in you.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: Now cut to the nineteen sixties and if your wife
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: wanted sex too much, oh well, she's getting into a
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: frenzy and we need to hospitalize and bottomize her for
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: being a sexual deviate.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: How dare she want to fuck? It's like, bro, what what?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: There is no plushing you you know what I mean?
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: But right, right, so that same thing, a lot of
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: herbology what we would now call basically, I think it's
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: right now, twenty five percent of all pharmaceuticals are naturally
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: based and naturally sourced. Right, he would call that medicine.
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: You're using herbs to remedy stomach pains and migraines and shit,
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: like that. Back then, what do you mean you're not
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: praying away your headache?
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Obviously she's a witch. It's like, bro, what what the
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: fuck here?
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: You couldn't called it Jesus jam and she wouldn't have
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: been hung See.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about right there, because it
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: was like literally some of the stuff that these women
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: were getting accused of, it would be something that nobody
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: would blink an eye at like today. But so with
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: the witch trials, I kind of like take it with
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: the grain of salt because I think whatever was going
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: on in like Dudley Town was way more sinister than
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: somebody like with the witch trials, like rubbing jam on
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: somebody's like bee whole.
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: I mean, she doesn't out to talking about the jam
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: was a lubricant. I think he to that point went
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: to medical practice.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: If you had stomach pains, they would blow tobacco smoke
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: up your asshole. And that's where the phrase comes from,
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: blow smoke up your butt to make you feel good.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: That's a real medical practice that was done around the
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: Revolutionary War time frame, right.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a high class service these days these days.
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: Intial little xture, if you know what I mean, but
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: exactly that was medical procedure during this day and age.
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: Never mind the fact taking something with a little alkaline
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: and to settle over a cidic stomach.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: Right, that's that's witchcraft. So I agree with you.
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: And we all remember reading the Crucible right in school,
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: the proctors and all these things. No one actually died
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: as a result of the witchcraft until the Witchfinder General
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: came to town and started murdering people over the old affair.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: Right, So I agree with you.
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: A lot of these witch trials that took place were
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: usually people that were trying to settle beefs, and so
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: of course you're gonna throw your neighbor under the bus,
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: especially if it's a neighbor that you want their land
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: or you're jealous of them for whatever reason. Yeah, you'll
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: you'll slaves.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: Like the one of the first ones was like Titchuba. Yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: she was like a house slave or something, and she
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: was doing the same thing. She was using like African
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: practices to like uh us his remedies and stuff like that,
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: and she got accused of which witchcraft. But I mean,
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: like this Dudley Town stuff like that's legit. Like people
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: are disappearing people are getting struck by lightning, people are
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: seeing fucking demons in the trees. That stuff. That's different.
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: I feel like that's a lot crazier than some, Like
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: I said, before the Witch Trials, I don't even know
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: if how creepy those really already were.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: But isn't it interesting with the witch go ahead?
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: I was gonna say, to your point, in Louisiana, in
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: New Orleans, Okay, in the big famous cathedral in front
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: of Jefferson Square, you had Catholic masses hailed in that
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: cathedral in the morning, and then Marie Levo would be
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: doing voodoo rituals at the same altar in the evenings,
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: and that was done for forever. So how wildly drastic
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: the world changes in the matter of one hundred years,
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: one hundred percent with you?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, to if if I made there, Jonathan to
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the note of the Witch trials, isn't it you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I understand the malfeasans and the various actors and whatnot.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I do think it's not mutually exclusive though,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Whereas isn't it odd that we see folks major folks
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: in the occult then you know, when sorry and the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: witch trials are essentially figures in the occult scene today,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: not the least of which Jack Parsons, Marvel Jack Parsons,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: mister gape Lodge himself of the O t O. His
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: fourth great grandmother was an accused, which his fourth great
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: grandmother Parsons was an accused. Which that's one such example.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: There's many others.
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: Who else his grandma it was an accused? Which fucking
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: mind Jessica Parker, Dude.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me mine not mind.
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: You Wait a minute, horse faces great grandmother, right, witch trial?
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: Can we also acknowledge that was the only role where
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: she looked attractive ever, period.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: Ever, Like five inches of makeup on.
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: Her Yeah, horse space, dude.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: That in the corset, I think they did her serious service.
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: But yeah, no, other than that, she they tried to
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: make her look like an icon in Sex in the City.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: And it's like, y'all stop it stop.
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: Nobody's buying that ship, dude. And then she dated John F.
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: Kennedy Junior, Like what the fuck was he thinking? Come on,
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: they mated dude, horse face mcgillicud, he is.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: Don't talk about him like that. He's a very handsome gentleman.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: She's handsome.
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, her grandma was accused in the witch trials. Just
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: to f YI, just thrown that out there.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: You got Joseph's grandfather, I'm sorry, his great grandfather was
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: was one of the accusers in that business as well.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: So again there's a lot of these and George Bush
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: has lineage there as well, so many folks would claim
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that he's a ended up curley. You know. I'm kind
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: of that mindset. So you know, it's weird that you
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: have this occult stuff from then to three hundred and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: four years later, almost right, and you're like, these families
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: are still involved in the same stuff, it seems. I'm
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: just saying there's even though these these witch trials are
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: obviously a lot of scare and whatnot, I think there
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: is obviously something going on there, Like, you know, maybe
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: it is occult is blaming non occultists, you know, you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to get the heat off of them to some regard.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. I'm not sure, but weird.
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I uh, I was tripping balls with somebody one
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: time and we decided to watch Sex in the City
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: and uh, well, I say we, but it was actually
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: her show.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: It to watch while you're tripping balls like all the
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: things watch Fantasia, like the.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Ever watched Sex in the City. If I was tripping
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: balls that, I mean, I do like your style, sir.
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: It is crazy because legit, like you know, you start
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: seeing all the blurry images and maybe things get a
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: little bit more distinct. Dude, I I like bust it
• 41:00
  Speaker 9: out laughing several times just by looking at Sarah Jessica Parker.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: What the fuck is she trying to fool?
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Dude?
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: Like you right, you're Jouanna Man, what the fuck?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And the big blonde lady too from Police Academy. That's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: that's a if that ain't to do. That's a big lady.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah trail, Oh my god.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Her features are very large the movie. Yeah she was. Yeah,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I love that movie.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: When I think that was Michelle Pfeiffer, that wouldn't her.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: That was have that look to her before she went
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: full Jessica Parker style.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I'm thinking probably uh the.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Age to her.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're right, she used to have a look
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: like that, a very similar look to But yeah, you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: didn't pay attention to her, you know, Michael Jordan Wingspan.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: I guess it's been a hot minute since I've seen
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: the movie Mannequin two. So I mean, well, also I
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: should say, I don't know if they came up with
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: a second, but yeah, yeah, it's.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: Okay. Yeah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: So just to get back into some more of the
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: witchcraft cases, So in sixteen fifty one, Joanne and John Carrington,
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: they were a married couple from Weathersfield, and they were
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: both executed for witchcraft, along with Catherine Harrison in sixteen
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: sixty nine.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: She was convicted in Weathersfield.
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: Her case became significant and shaping legal and theological responses
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: to witchcraft in colonial New England. So, while these trials
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: were widespread in towns like Weathersfield, Hartford and Windsor, there
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: is no historical record of witch trials or executions taking
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: place in Cornwall or Dudley Town. The legend surrounding Dudley
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: Town focus more on curses attributed to the Dudley family,
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: mysterious illnesses, suicides, and alleged paranormal phenomena. Some narratives suggest
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: that the founders of Dudley Town were descendants of Edmund Dudley,
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: as I said earlier, and so, but they didn't necessarily
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: find a genealogical link. As far as the reverend guy,
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: I guess he was trying to figure it all out.
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: But anyhow, while Connecticut it has a rich and complex
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: history of witch trials, Dudley Town's haunted reputation arises from
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: tales of curses and unexplained events rather than documented witchcraft persecutions.
• 43:09
  Speaker 9: So getting back over to it, so that's as far
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: as the witchcraft goes, at least in the surrounding areas.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: I just want to, you know, throw that in there.
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: Just we're trying to figure out why is this place
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: so haunted, Why is it so dead? Why is it
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: so creepy? And a lot of this stuff is rate
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: in it. They're they're neighboring. I mean, you're talking about
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: forty miles away. Yeah, maybe back then it was more
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: than a hop, skip and a jump, but nowadays you
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: can get there in what an hour? So, but but
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: then you got the Indian burial grounds, as I was
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: saying about the shack to Go tribal nation. And they
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: have this story called the fox fire story. So in
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: this story, a fox yearns to obtain fire and devises
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: a plan to acquire it from a firefly village. The
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: fox fabricates a story about losing his feathers. A fox
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: losing his feathers Okay in a fall and borrowing a
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: fur coat from a cedar tree to gain the fire
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: arrifies the fireflies. Trust The fireflies, believing his tail, welcome
• 44:04
  Speaker 9: him and bestow upon him blueshell necklaces as tokens of hospitality.
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: The fox then attempts to discover the source of their light,
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: leading leading him to the village's burial grounds, where he
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: encounters the glowing form of the deceased sachem these This
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: encounter underscores themes of cunning, curiosity and the consequences of deceit.
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: So as far as this whole thing goes, it's it's
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: just more so about the rituals of deceit and everything,
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: and you know, certain curiosity kind of killing the cat.
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: But this is just one of the stories within the
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: shaktagk Uh tribal nation. So, but as far as rituals,
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: they did have rituals and ceremonies deeply rooted in spirituality, nature, reverence,
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: and seasonal cycles uh consistent with many algonquin Uh speaking
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: tribes of the northeast. So some of the rituals and
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: ceremonies that I wanted to get into as far as this, uh,
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: the these native people were practicing. They they held seasonal
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: ceremonies connected to planting, harvesting, and hunting. I don't think
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: that's too out of the ordinary. They would have ceremonial fires, drumming, singing,
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: and dancing were core parts of these rites. Rituals were
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: often honored. They honored spiritual or spirit beings connected to nature,
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: such as rivers, animals, the moon, et cetera. And then
• 45:21
  Speaker 9: they had the green corn ceremony, which is a late
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: summer harvest ritual. Observe across many Northeastern tribes likely had
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: a oh, I'm sorry. It symbolized renewal, purification, and community gratitude.
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: So not anything super crazy. As far as rituals and ceremonies,
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: that's that's pretty common, I would say, probably amongst most
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: native tribes back then for sure. But then they would
• 45:47
  Speaker 9: have the offerings, so the offerings to spirits. What they
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: would offer would be food, tobacco, or handmade items to spirits,
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: especially before or after hunts, during illness, or in major
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: life events. These after these offerings were made at sacred
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: spots such as rivers, forest clearings, or burial mounds, not
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: as sacrifices, but as acts of respect and exchange with
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: the spirit world. So the reason I wanted to bring
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: a couple of these up is because we were talking about,
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: you know, if these people really were like kind of
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: misplaced and got kicked out, or maybe they got slaughtered
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: or something like that, could it be that they're the
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: ones that kind of cursed the land. I mean, I'm
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: not saying that. You know, it's inherently evil to have
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: rituals and ceremonies and offerings.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: That's basically all of human civilization up.
• 46:33
  Speaker 9: To a point, right, But they would also have medicine
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: and spiritual healing and all and and some certain types
• 46:41
  Speaker 9: of burial practices. So yeah, I mean it's it's not
• 46:45
  Speaker 9: anything too crazy out of the ordinary. But I did
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: want to get to the the Shaktago people how they were.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: They Uh, they were.
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: Indigenous to this north northwestern part of Connecticut and eastern
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: New York. They experienced significant of people and displacement do
• 46:59
  Speaker 9: to do to European colonization. While there isn't extensive documentation
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: of direct large scale massacres by European settlers, specifically targeting
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: the Shaktagoke. Their history reflects a pattern of displacement, cultural assimilation, pressures,
• 47:14
  Speaker 9: and conflicts that affected many Native American tribes during the
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: colonial period. So you would have such things happen. As
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: far as the impact of the European colonization, you would
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: have land encroachment basically, just get your shit taken from
• 47:29
  Speaker 9: you right. Then you would have establishment of reservations. So
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: in response to land pressures and colonial policies, the Shaktagoki
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: or Gok were among the first native groups in the
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: area to be assigned to reservation. So this confinement disrupted
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: their traditional nomadic and hunting practices. Then you would have
• 47:47
  Speaker 9: certain cultural pressures. So it says missionary efforts aimed at
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: converting Native Americans to Christianity often undermined indigenous cultural practices
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: and beliefs. The Shaktagke, like many tribes, face pressures to
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: assimilate into European ways of life, leading to a gradual
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: erosion of their traditional customs. So then it oh it
• 48:08
  Speaker 9: I guess it was. Yeah, it was kind of involved
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: in the French and Indian wars then, but at first
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: it was actually involved in.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: The in King Phillips War, which is from yeah, five
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: to seventy eight.
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: If anybody doesn't know about the King Phillips War, Yeah,
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: you know about it because you're from that area, but
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: most people outside of the immediate area.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: Have never heard of King Phillips War.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: It is a pretty remarkable little slice of pre American
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: American history.
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah. So as far as King King Phillips War from
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: sixteen seventy one, it was extremely bloody.
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: Some some myself included, might call it damn near genocidal slaughter.
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: Some might call it a massive victory for the European powers. Yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: it's it's pretty crazy, honestly. And the King Philip, by
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: the way, he was a native tribesman that they gave
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: the moniker of King Philip.
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: That wasn't his given name.
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: But basically they alamode themselves like fully fought to the
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: last man to defend what they called their own and
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: it was not pretty for them or their wives or
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: their children. There is a monument erected at one of
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: the battle sites to this day, although unless you know
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: what you're looking at, you would probably never even realize
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: that that's what you're.
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: Looking at it. Yeah, but that's to this point right.
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: We don't know if it was native curses that made
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: Dudley Town so inherently cursed. We don't know if it
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: was because of the witch trials that were going on
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: around this area. We don't know if it's just something
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: within the land like we're talking about, maybe it's a portal.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: Of some type. Maybe aliens see.
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: It as a hotspot for radioactivity. Like there's no guaranteed,
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: surefire answer to any of it, but there's that little
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: bit of credence for all of it individually.
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: So like the ritualism, like what John is and was
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: talking about earlier, where they made like little sacrifices, doesn't
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: that remind you like not trying to get like way
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: out there, but you know how they say, like there
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: were there's supposed to be like little people or quote
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: unquote fairies and stuff that live in like remote weird
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: woods and forests since you make little offerings to them
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: of like tobacco and like they're supposed to not fuck
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: with you as long as you do that. But it
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: did remind me of that because like when you talk
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: about like the fairy lore stuff, it's it goes with
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: like interdimensional portals and like dead zones and stuff like that,
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: and these people were making offerings and stuff. It just
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: that that's kind of what it reminded me of too.
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, and you don't want to keep your house
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: too clean or else Brownie the elf will come in
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: and wreck your shit.
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: You ever heard all that shit?
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, brownies aka leprechauns, depending on which folklore you're reading
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: from what country.
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're friends with.
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: The Robert the doll JJ.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: No way get him out of here. I'm over him.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: They got quadgies up there in those regions, They're right.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: They call their little demon beasts in them in the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: forest of little elfin creatures puckwodgies.
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and so that's the thing you have, the elves
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: and the brownies and the leprechauns. That scene as more
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: of a Western European story arc, but the native tribes
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: had their own versions of that. So how much of
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: that story and lore came across into the founding of
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: Dudley Town from Europe?
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: Who's to say how much of that was.
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: Already here from the from the native tribes that lived
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: here at that time. How many how many of these
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: stories actually tied in neck and neck? Is that possibly
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: the reason for what's going down in Dudley Town. Maybe
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: it has nothing to do with any of the shit, like,
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: who actually knows, but like we're some of it's very
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: interesting to look at the entirety of it full picture
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: for sure.
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: For sure, Yeah, they were so they were kind of
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: They weren't the primary participants in the King Phillips War,
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: but they did suffer from a lot of the aftermath,
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: as many tribes did in the New England area.
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: And then the French and Indian.
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: Wars, which you know obviously was between the French and
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: British colonial interests. Uh, they were impacted broadly as well. So, yeah,
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: these wars that are almost forcing these people out and
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: other native people forcing them into reservations and not allowing.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: Them to really do what they would naturally do. Uh.
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: So they did face obviously migration, so facing continuous pressures,
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: some of them, some of the individuals and families migrated
• 52:35
  Speaker 9: to other regions seeking refuge among other tribes or in
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: less contested areas.
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: Says that they do.
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: They did maintain some kind of resilience though that that
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: there is still you know, people that are upholding a
• 52:49
  Speaker 9: lot of the memories and a lot of the the
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: tribal myths and everything like that, but I wanted to
• 52:53
  Speaker 9: bring them up, especially if they were going through a
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: lot of the displacement and shit like that. I imagine
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: if you were, you know, they connect spiritually to the land,
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: and if you're being displaced from that land, then maybe
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: you would be prone to have a sort of spiritual withdrawal.
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: But there's actually a couple of them that I did
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: want to get to, such as spirit offerings turned to warnings,
• 53:13
  Speaker 9: so offerings of tobacco, feathers or sacred stones could be
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: left at border areas or burial mounds, not as a
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: blessing but a warning. These acted as spiritual stop signs
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: to settlers or trespassers, so entering the land after ignoring
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: those signs could bring illness, madness, or bad luck, very
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: similar to what you're seeing. And and also in some
• 53:34
  Speaker 9: other legends, disrespecting sacred sites, especially burial grounds, provoked spirits
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: or guardians to curse intruders, so that would be spirit
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: offerings turned to warnings. So essentially you would have if
• 53:48
  Speaker 9: they were there before and that was their land, they
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: would have these certain spirited offerings to you know, ancestors
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: or you know, the the whatever they were worshiping, and
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: if they were kicked off of that land, then then
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: they change, you know, so no longer they are a
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: spirit offering, but they're almost like a spiritual trap in essence.
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: But then they also have a invocation of ancestor spirits
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: or animal guardians.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: So this is where it's gonna get a little crazy.
• 54:15
  Speaker 9: Uh So, tribal shamans or medicine people called what they
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: would call upon animal spirits or nature guardians to watch
• 54:22
  Speaker 9: over the land. So these beings could in essence protect
• 54:26
  Speaker 9: sacred sites from trespassers that could cause fear hallucinations, disorientation,
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: or aggressive aggressive encounters for those who enter without permission,
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: and later they would be perceived as monsters or demonic
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: forces by settlers or modern paranormal investigators.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: So maybe whatever old girl.
• 54:45
  Speaker 9: Was seeing the demons and all the fucking evil spirits
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: and all that stuff, could it have been some kind
• 54:49
  Speaker 9: of invocation left over from the natives that were you know, uh,
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: they they had their ancestors or animal guardians watching over them.
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: And this is what it would seem like.
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean to a European settler, what would you
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: call this thing in the woods that defies all explanation,
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: that's clearly not an animal, but clearly not a person.
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: And especially if you're somebody who has some sort of
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: a background in Christendom, something that's unexplained and dark and
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: ominous is clearly demonic forces in and of itself. But
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: you know, it kind of, like we said, it all
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: ties in and it kind of makes sense to paint
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: the tapestry, if you will, of why this town is so,
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: for lack of better.
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: Words, cursed. Yeah.
• 55:30
  Speaker 9: Well, and that's the thing is that, you know, if
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: you were to see a bigfoot or a dog man
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: or you know, a skinwalker or something like that, these
• 55:38
  Speaker 9: people probably didn't have any idea about what the fuck
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: that was. You're on the East coast, right and a
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: lot of that shit's going on way out on the
• 55:44
  Speaker 9: west coast, and maybe they didn't even hear about these
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: kinds of things if they were even going on back then.
• 55:48
  Speaker 9: I don't know how far back Skinwalker Ranch goes, but yeah,
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: I mean I would probably perceive it as something demonic,
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: especially if you have you know, actual witches that were
• 55:58
  Speaker 9: being hung and executed, just you know, a few millennialies were,
• 56:05
  Speaker 9: so yeah, you'd have the spirit offerings turned to warnings,
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: but then you would also have the invocation of ancestor
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: spirits or animal guardians. But then you would also have
• 56:13
  Speaker 9: the curse through song or ritual. So some oral histories
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: from Algonquian speaking people mentioned songs or rituals that can
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: be performed during morning or vengeance. These weren't casual curses.
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: They were sacred and rare, but when they were performed,
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: the land would become spiritually locked, cut off from harmony, health,
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: or peace. And these ceremonies often happened after betrayals like
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: broken treaties, massacres, or grave desecration, so that kind of
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: lines up right, absolutely absolutely. They also had protection on
• 56:49
  Speaker 9: burial grounds. So one of the strongest taboos in many
• 56:52
  Speaker 9: Native traditions is the disturbance of burial grounds. So it
• 56:55
  Speaker 9: says that if a burial site was desecrated, spirits of
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: the dead could become restless or revengeful.
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: They might the land.
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: The land might be said to cause madness, infertility, or
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: supernatural occurrences, and in many cultures they weren't. These weren't
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: ghosts in the Western sense. They were wounded energies that
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: affected time, memory, and perception. Absolutely hallucinating in a sense.
• 57:22
  Speaker 9: You would think, right, if you're going to hallucinate, that's
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: probably what's going to sort of fade out a little bit.
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: And the infertility that we're talking about, it's not just
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: in humans. Right, Whenever a land is barren and nothing
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: grows there anymore, no more agriculture, you can't farm it anymore,
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: they basically mean the land is infertile. The native tribes
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: basically put these two in the same conversations. So when
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: we look at Dudley Town and how, yeah, they tried
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: to have farms that operated here, none of them took.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: And it's not like Connecticut is known for having unrich
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: soil by any means. I mean, hell, there's an entire
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: genus of tobacco, go Connecticut tobacco as a matter of fact,
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: that grew there for years and year centuries that the
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: native tribesmen knew how to cultivate with precision. Yet somehow
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: in Dudley Town they can't get ship to grow.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's the thing. It's not like desert area
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: desert or anything like that. I mean, it's it's gonna
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: be raining a lot up there in the northeast.
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: So, uh, you know what, this reminds me of that
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: other cursed town, Jonathan. You may have heard of it,
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: because I think your family's from out there in like
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: Pennsylvania area. But it's that town that's on fire, that's
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: always on fire, that inspired Silent Hill, that cursed.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Wild you know what I'm talking about it, I know
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about.
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: The name of it, but it's on fire. It's always
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: on fire, just.
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: Like coal mine. The coal mines on fire underneath the ground.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: And so they went around and started like drilling a
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: hole to see if the fire is still going.
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: They did that every few miles.
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: But they didn't realize was they were making air holes
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: to keep the fire going. Right, Damn, what is the town?
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: I know what you're talking about.
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And it was like the inspiration for asilument or whatever.
• 59:08
  Speaker 8: But it's like there's these little cursed weird towns, like
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: they pop up randomly kind of like all over and
• 59:15
  Speaker 8: it's like the same thing as Dudley. It's like nobody
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: can live there. It's fucked off and it's just weirdness
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: and like creepiness.
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: All that makes sense though, why it's so dangerous because
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: the land is a giving way because the coal that
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: was the bedrock of it is burning away and it's falling.
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: So like to say that nobody can live there because
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: it's dangerous, that makes sense to me, right, at least
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: I could put the pieces together in my head.
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: There's nothing like that with Dudley.
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: It's just a town quote unquote town and more like
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: a village in the middle of the woods with nothing
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: around it.
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: So why is it so dangerous? Why can nobody go?
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: And it's there's no out loud.
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: None of the answers giving as far as the official
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: narrative goes, makes any.
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: Sense unless there's some type of freakish, natural, really occurring
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: source of radiation out there. Because the one of the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 8: other things that it made me think of is if
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: you guys have ever watched the movie Hills Have Eyes.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Like all the fucked up, weird people were
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: living in this little village out in the middle of
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: the desert, right and they were like testing radiation shit
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: on them and it fucked their faces up and made
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: them like eat their sister. But the point is is,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: like they test out weird radiation shit on people all
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: the time. Fucks up the whole town, then nobody can
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: live there. I think a similar thing was going on
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 8: with like the diachtlav Pass in Russia, with like some
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: weird radiation shit. They blamed it on Aliens, but there
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: was like a bunch of Soviet weirdness. But anyways, there's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: these little random villages and towns and stuff, and it's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: like nobody really knows what's going on, and it's happening
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: like right under our nose.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 9: Yes, that town that you were thinking of in Pennsylvania
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: is called Centralia. That's right, that's right, And since night
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 9: teen sixty two, resulting in the town becoming largely abandoned,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 9: the fire, which started in a landfill and spread to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 9: coal mines below, is expected to continue burning for over
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: two hundred and fifty years.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: If that I mean, honestly, that's a low estimation by
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 7: my account.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Dude, America, even our fires are better than everybody Else's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Come on now helps the whole asseted.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Occurrences and things going on there makes me think of
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: some kind of geo magnetic or geo energy. And I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: looked at the topography. I don't know if you guys
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: got into it. But it's at fifteen hundred feet and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: there is a hill there, and actually it's called dudley
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Town Hill, so it's.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Obviously right on the hill. Yeah, maybe a mound.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: But it also when you mentioned the burial sites, I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: believe this may not be true for culture at every time,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: but some of the more higher ups of the people's
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: would be buried up high at the top of the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: hill from what I understand, I don't know if that
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: took place all the time with certainty.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 9: Oh and also as far as the radiation levels, I'm
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 9: just looking. There was an article back in twenty twenty
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 9: by cornwalllive dot com that says mystery as incredibly high
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 9: radiation levels detected in Cornwall, which is where Dudley Town is.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: I'm telling you there's something freaky going on with the radiation.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: There's going to be some motherfuckers coming out of caves
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: with fucked up hills have I's faces, trying to fuck
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: their sister. And I'm not even playing.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was going to say, because you mentioned
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Skinwalker Ranch and then you're mentioning what's it called that
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: they claim to have seen things and didn't look normal
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: and I looked at up real quick, and I remember,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: because of the whole bad thing with the white nose
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: syndrome and the fungus and all that other stuff, there
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: are cave systems in northwestern Connecticut that are closed off
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: because they're trying to prevent the further transfer of white
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: nose center anyway. But so there are cave systems in
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: northwest Connecticut, just as they were in Skinwalker. And so
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: the radiation thing would make sense because it would be
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: almost like a direct opening down to the ground. And
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: so when another in another episode, we talked about how
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: the earth itself emits in certain areas intense I guess
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: off gassing of radiation.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: Sure where they're hiding out at in these fucking caves.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: With the radiation, there is an opening to like journey
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: to the center of the earth in Lee Town. And
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: that's why they got that bitch walled off, because if you,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: like literally, you could stumble down into a cave and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: nobody ever seen your ass again and you stuck like
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 8: with Godzilla and fucking Kong and shit like inner Earth stuff.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 8: They put that in the last one. I'm serious, that's
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 8: a real thing. The hollower shit.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, And there was a conspiracy podcaster on there too.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: I felt very represented.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, absolutely.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: So this is the thing.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: These people would take off into the woods, never be
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 7: seen again. Do we know what happened to them? Is
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: it possible that they twisted their ankle and they screamed
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: nobody could hear them, and they starved to death.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: Yes, that there's a greater than zero percent chance of that.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: Is it equally possible that they happened to wander into
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: a very dense radiation cloud before humans even knew what
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: radiation was and they just succumbed to their injuries. In
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: that regard that, there's so many possibilities and nothing absolutely.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: Concrete about it.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: But what we do know for certain is something is
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: so wrong with this town and has been for centuries
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: that nobody can do shit with it.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: So just the other day we covered h Cash Betel
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 9: and fucking Dan Bongino were both saying that Jeffrey Epstein
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: did kill himself in the box.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: So stupid.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: But what we found what was very interesting as far
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 9: as that story goes, is that the Metropolitan Correctional Center
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 9: in New York City, they shut it down whenever Epstein died,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: and that was literally where everybody if you got convicted
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: of anything and you were in the New York City area,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 9: that is where you would go. And so I find
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 9: it interesting about how that gets shut down and nobody's
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: allowed to go in there, And it's almost kind of
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: similar to this whole Dudley Town in a way where
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: all right, so you know, big names die, and you know,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 9: and then nobody's allowed over there anymore. And I just
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: find it really strange about it.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: They don't even let anybody go on there, like you
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 9: have to get like super permission. I think you got
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: to pay them off or something like that. I'm thinking about, dude.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: I'm buying a fucking RV in October, and I'm just
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: gonna live in RV and I'm just gonna travel to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: all these crazy locations, and whenever that happens, Dudley Town
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: is going to be one of the first ones that
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 9: I go to, because I wish a motherfucker, would you know,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 9: just I want to go up in there and see
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: what happens, Like, tell me.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: To get off the property.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 9: I will be performing not sex magic, but some kind
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 9: of magic over there, and maybe it's enhancet.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: We don't know.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: Hey, if that said, I'll get you a Geiger counter
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: for when you go, just so we can see I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: got pathetically, Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: Satan himself. Then he can get it right like I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: would be up in there trying to figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I do wonder about this this property. Uh.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: I really wish Ricardo was here because you probably be
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: able to explain these things that I want to talk
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: about a lot better. But a lot of things that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: you had said, I might kind of stuck on the lightning.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: And know this may sound like silly, but that's something
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: that kind of goes along with the other theories that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering about. With the pressure. Uh, if you get lightning,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I mean that that's gonna there's pressure behind that to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: create that to happen. Uh. Now, back in the day,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you what the contraption was made out of.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: He was on the show a few days ago talking
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: about and he's talked about it before and he's posted
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: about it. There's was some sort of contraption that would
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: take a like kind of a I don't know if
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: it was four hurts or whatever, but it can start
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: to compress it and it would start to cause And
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: this was stuff back in I think almost like medieval
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: times that was being used as like weapons. But the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: problem is that you couldn't direct it. But if you
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: were there able to compress this frequency and it would
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: cause people to either hallucinate to the point to where
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: they could possibly kill themselves or others, but they couldn't
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: direct it. I know this sounds crazy, but there's actually
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: like scientific proof of this shit existing. Now that's compression. Again,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: you have lightning that's from compression. I'm just wondering if
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: there's actually like not saying that that contraption is there,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: but if there's actually like really something going on over
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: there that could be causing people to hallucinate what they
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: think is like Bigfoot or whatever the fuck you know
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: it was pop these days. That could be a hallucination.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's not even there because of that area that
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: you're in, you're just seeing shit. Yeah.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: I wanted to bring up too, as far as lightning
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: involved in witchcraft, for example, So there's these things called
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: witch marks and lightning stones. So it says in folklore
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: people believe that fulgar rights, which are natural glass tubes
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 9: formed when lightning strikes sand had magical properties. These are
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: sometimes used in protection charms or power spells, and similarly,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: witches stones or lightning struck wood, especially oak, were used
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 9: in amulets or wands for added potency. Now, I don't
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 9: know if that guy, because he was like a colonel
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 9: or somebody high ranking, so I don't know if he
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 9: was into that.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: Maybe his wife was, We don't know.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: I mean, what was that Mary Todd Lincoln was was
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: doing all the crazy shit in the White House as
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: far as like trying to summon ghosts and.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: Spirits and all that shit too.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 9: So I mean, I suggest that Hillary Clinton was doing
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 9: it too, But it will any of us, right.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, oh, she loves.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, sure, absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: And look, Harry Potter had a lightning strike on his
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: head that was supposed to be a mark of a
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: curse that was meant to kill him. Let's keep in
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: mind the author of Harry Potter used a lot of
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: the grimoires and the Witch's hammer, and a lot of
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: her uh spell work, and a lot of the backstory
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: to how magic works.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: I look, I'm just saying Satan I didn't say it.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: She did.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 7: I'm not even trying to be that Christian guy, but
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: at the same time, straight from the bitch's mouth did.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she she was definitely into some shit. But I
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 8: still love Harry Potter. The thing that I was going
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 8: to say, though, was the the diatlav Pass incident that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: I brought up earlier that happened in Russia, with how
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: all those people died in a weird way. They tried
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 8: to blame lightning on that too, So I think that's interesting.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 8: That is the that radiation thing and the lightning. They said, oh,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: they got they all got struck by ball lightning or
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: some shit like that, And it was like, well, why
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: is one guy's face melted off, the other guys wearing
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 8: the other ones like clothes summer, missing tongs and eyes
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: and fingers. It's like ball lightning, really, dude, Like, is
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: that really what we're I mean, they it's always like
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: some kind of weird hodgepodge of things.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then they say it was a bear that
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: attacked him or something like that.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a bear, there was an avalanche, ship
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: ball lightning.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Which the fact that we are having the conversation
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: of whether ball lightning removed this dude's tongue from his
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: mouth also an avalanche.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: Removed this guy's eyeballs. The rest of them's fine. Oh,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: by the way, a bear took the carcasses. And it's like,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: you understand out loud, the series of events that would
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 7: have to take place this is this is like a
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: rom com style series of What the fuck are we
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: talking about here? This is worse than cocaine bear yea,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: the actual official narrative to that incident.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually looked into that.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: Excuse the weirdest fevered and the Russian officials are like, nope,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: this is totally what happened. This is real life right now.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: It's like, my boy, my brother in Christ, what are
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: we talking about right now?
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  Speaker 4: Just a quick in sort of a fun fact. Tolkien
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: was neighbors with Schrodinger and C. S.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: Lewis feuds down Wow, like Chronicles of Narnia, guy, yep,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: I love Chronicles of Narnia.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: God, that was a golden age as far as literature
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: is concerned.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: The fact, but the fact that she was friends with Schrodingers,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, they must have been discussing quantum stuff, which
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: gives rise to a lot of this stuff in the books.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: Very possible.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 9: I did want to there was some other like wild stories.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 9: So a lot of this Dudley township is really stepped
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 9: steeped in myth. But it actually it's not necessarily myth.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 9: It's just that it's.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: Old and so.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 9: But there was another one in eighteen seventy two. There
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 9: was this dude named Horace Greeley who was running for president,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 9: and one week before he lost the election, his wife
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 9: hanged herself in Dudley Town, where she had grown up. Yeah,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 9: I mean, fuck, I'm just saying this little ass legit
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: fucking neighborhood, not even a town, and all of these
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 9: people are committing suicide, they're getting they're going mad, they're
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: getting sick, they're wandering to the forest never to come back.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: It's like, dude, what the hell is actually going on?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: And just to dove a little bit deeper on that,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 9: doctor William Clark. So in nineteen twenty four, doctor William Clark.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 9: He was a New York cancer specialist. He bought a
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 9: thousand acres on Bald Mountain, part of which belonged to
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 9: Dudley Town, and one summer he went to New York
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: for a brief business trip and returned to find his
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: wife had gone insane and she spent the rest of
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 9: her life in a mental hospital in Dudley Town.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so he bought this town.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: He was a part of the well to do, aristocratic
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: section of New York right now, I mean the state,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: I mean New York City, Manhattan.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: He was a very.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: Upstanding citizen, well known, own cancer doctor. In the nineteen twenties,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: he bought Dudley Town with the intention of turning it
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 7: into a country retreat for the wealthy elites of New
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: York to try to get away from the hustle and
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: bustle of the city and go out to like cabins.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 7: He had so many plans of turning this place into
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 7: a country estate resort for these people. He didn't own
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: the town pretty much any time before his family started dying,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: and then he did nothing with it. He left the town,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 7: left it untouched until it was bought by the Dark
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 7: Forest Entry Society, and that's who owns it to this day.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah. I also wanted to bring up too. There was
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 9: this guy named Nathaniel Carter. His family lived in Abiel
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 9: Abiel Abi E. L. Dudley's House, but then moved to Binghamton,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: New York. They built a log cabin, and one day
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 9: while Nathaniel was away, natives killed his wife, captured his
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 9: three children, and burned his house down.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: And then whenever he returned, they killed his ass too.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so wild stuff, But I did want to go
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 9: a little bit farther along that. So, as for the
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 9: Carter tragedy, which I just brought up, it says Carter
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 9: built a house at the forks of the Delaware Wilderness,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 9: right in the middle of Indian country. And so this
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 9: was I guess beforehand, and his three children survived, and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 9: his son became a state Supreme Court justice. So I
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: mean something good came out of there, I guess.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, I guess it depends on what laws he passed.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 7: He might have been a piece of shit, like I don't.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: Know, I don't know. I don't know what core cases
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: he presided over. It's possible he was cool.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 7: But to your point, basically, nothing good came out of
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 7: or ever happened in Dudley Town. It was riddle with
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 7: controversy from its founding till right now.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Is there any reason for the name dark entrance to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: the company, Yeah, right, the thing or is already doing
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: anything else?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: That's the name of the woods.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: The Dark Entry Forest is the actual name of the
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: woods that Dudley Town is in.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 9: Well, from what I read, it's actually the name of
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 9: the road that brings you to Dudley Town. So the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: Dark Entry Road that leads through the woods. It's literally
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: the only road that allows you to get to Dudley Town.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: There is no other way to get there. And so
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 9: literally it's called the Dark Entry Road, and then it
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: became the Dark Entry Forest, and then it became the
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 9: Dark Entry whatever the fuck I called it.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: Well, that's not ominous at all, but it does. Like
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 8: at the very beginning of this episode, I think it
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: was Jonathan or Jacob said that it reminded you of
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: the Oki Kahara Forest in Japan, and legit like it's
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 8: American Oki Kahara Forest. Like when did they name that
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: road the Dark Entrance Road, like fucking recently or like
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: it's always been called that. I mean, they know something's
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: going on, right.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: It kind of reminds me of the Dark Forest in
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 7: North Germany, right where the story of Hansel and Gretel
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 7: came from originally. And I mean there's all kinds of
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: legends and all kinds of lore of monsters that lurk
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 7: in the dark woods in North Germany, right, So to
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 7: say that that kind of has some sort of a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: rhyme or reason possibly to why Dudley Town is this
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 7: village in the dark entry forest that's so cursed. But
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: it's not even just legends and lore. These deaths are documented,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: not just in the annals of some creepy pasta internet thing,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: and not just some kid's story book.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: No, there's actual state records of these deaths occurring in
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: this town. So, I mean, maybe there's a little bit
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: of connection. Maybe when you put that much dark kind
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: of mindset into a place, it just manifests itself.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 9: Into such a I don't know, Yeah, I wanted to
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 9: add a little bit more to it. So as far
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: as the guy that didn't end up buying it, Walter Clark,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 9: he bought his place in nineteen hundred for weekend visits
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 9: talking about his place in Dudley Town, and his wife
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 9: had a chronic disease and couldn't stand the pain, and
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 9: then sometime in nineteen eighteen she committed suicide in New
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: York City, but Clark continued to spend country weekends at
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: dudley Town. When Clark first arrived, dark Entry Forest was
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: just a name. There was no forest and no Dark
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: Entry because Dudley Town farmers had clear cut the land.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 9: But Clark wanted to change that, so in nineteen twenty four,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 9: he and his friends formed the dark Entry Forest Association
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 9: with the aim of reforesting the land. They hoped to
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: run a woodmill and offer recreation to children, so they
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 9: planted thousands of trees, and by the nineteen thirties, a
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 9: New York ski club used trails for skiing, and summer
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: camps used them for horseback riding, and visitors would also
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: canoe down the Hoosatonic River. However, that ended up dying.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 9: I don't know if they got it was for a
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: lack of visitors or because people are going missing, But
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 9: that's actually so in sometime in the nineteen thirties, they
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 9: ended up closing it down to the public. And it
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 9: was literally like built for visitors, and for some reason,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 9: not only do they like close it down, but nobody
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 9: can even get in now. So it makes you almost wonder,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 9: like think about like like national parks and shit, how
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: people are always going missing and everything, and like they
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: built this whole thing up so It almost makes you wonder, like,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 9: you know, what's really going on, Like why would you,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 9: oh yeah, make it so illegal for anybody to go
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 9: there if you literally built it up, I mean yeah,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: it was like one hundred years ago, but to shut
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 9: it off after only literally they were only doing it
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 9: for like ten years as far as like reforesting the
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 9: whole thing.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: So it's kind of strange how that happened.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: And to me, it's screams cult there, Jonathan, when you're
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: saying it like the National Park things, Yeah, they are
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: cordoning things off in a very specific fashion. And this
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: this property does a but of state for us actually,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: so it is very secluded in that regard as well.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: But you know, these things scream cult to me. Said
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: that the fella William Clark, right, yeah, doctor Clark. You
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: see you mentioned Horace Greeley who ran against stelet Useless
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Ascreen in the eighteen seventy two presidential election and obviously lost.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: So you know Clark's both Agreeley A Dudley and his
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Clarks go back to the Salem witch trials. So when
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I say Colt, I mean, you know, these things get
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: passed down through the blood lines. If you asked me.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, especially whenever you're dealing with like so
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: many people are obsessed with their blood lineage, and I
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 9: don't know. I I personally, I don't understand it. I
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: know that you know, blood magic absolutely works, and and
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 9: you know, especially it's it's done within a lot of
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 9: the occult and witchcraft and stuff like that. But I
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 9: almost I just wonder, like, So, as far as the blood, Nick,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: I wanted to ask you this because you're a fellow ocultist, sir,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 9: But as far as blood goes, what do you think
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 9: is so magical about it? Like why do you think
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 9: that spirits love it, or entities love it, or you know,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 9: demons love it or whatever.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: Like why specifically blood is it? Like just because it's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: the life force.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: I think it's part of the part of the I guess,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: the whole God. I don't know how to answer this
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: story an easy way. I think blood is what ties
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: spirits into the flesh.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's interesting.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: I mean it's part of that. I think it's part
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: of our original jail cells to begin with.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 7: Bleeds can't live without blood, so I could see it
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 7: being a part of the like you said, Johnathan, possibly
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 7: the life force if you will.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure if the blood is tied to the
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: soul inherently, but I know that a soul can't inhabit
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 7: a body that is dead and doesn't have blood pumping
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 7: through it.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: So maybe there's a connection in that regard. I don't know.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: You remember.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: Pire episode that I did with you guys about the
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 8: zombies and the vampires, because like even the Native Americans
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 8: used to do that thing where they'd like slice their
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: dicks over and over again and like bleed in a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 8: bowl and like offer it to the Because it's like
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: Nick was saying, I think it binds the spirits. I
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: think it binds your life force. I mean, the life
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 8: is in the blood, but it's also such a spiritual essence.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 8: And I mean, to cut your dick over and over again,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: I mean you got to admit it.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: You got to give start chopping some dicks off, right.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Oh well, just the trauma that what's released too.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: They're the whole original aspect of it.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think the folks that started this this
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: country of America, the Society of the Cincinnati, they very much
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: care about blood lines. One grip, that spa that was
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: an offsho to them was the Mormon Church. They care
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: about blood lines in DNA, and I think a lot
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: of it what they're I mean, they probably have numerous reasons,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: but I think they're big into like genetic memory and
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: like they want to they want to pass down stuff
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: specifically within you know, some very very narrow trees, if
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: you will, I can believe this.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think some blood stuff might actually be
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: a little bit more as science than actual ritual sometimes too.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Well, but I mean that's pretty esoteric, especially they've been
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: doing this for hundreds of years to understand that there
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: is some sort of memory passed down.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Through the Yeah, and Al, you're totally right.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 7: I think this is kind of one of those spots
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 7: where science and spirituality actually.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: Kind of meets in the middle. To be completely honest
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: with you, And I.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: Mean I use that term and it usually like we
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: brought up earlier talking about like hermeticism or medical practice
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: of using herbs and her bology, right, I think this
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 7: is one of those times where like that I would
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 7: consider using the spiritual and the physical world meeting in
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 7: the middle.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: Plants, I believe do have.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 7: Some sort of a spiritual essence to them, and we
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 7: can also use them.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: For their medicinal properties.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 7: I don't think that that's inherently u separate from using
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 7: them for their spiritual properties either. Blood, I think is
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 7: also in the same CONVERERCE, DNA. While it is a
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 7: very scientific conversation, I think that there is so much
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: esotericism that is involved with blood, magic, blood letting, all
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: of these rituals. I think this is one of those
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 7: times where it's the blending of the two, to be
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 7: honest with you, which I think is also what alchemy was.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 7: I think it was the blending of the science and
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: the spiritual, not just one, not just the other, the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: mixture there of both.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: You know, that's that's real. But I just wanted to
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: say this real quick then, you know, sorry to jump in.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: I know we're gonna say it some on the job, uh,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: just to say the science and spirituality. An alchemist somebody
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: I had just recently covered Robert Flood. He was an alchemist.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: He was into the occult, but like he kind of
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: solidified I think, like a theory on blood circulation that
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: like we kind of still go on based on today.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: And he actually he even gave us like a thermometer
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: that was used with just air and water, and because
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: of that, we ended up going to what we use today.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: So like again, like somebody like that was actually into
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: the heart and he had books where he was showing
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: the nervous system, the veins, drawings of inside the brain,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: in the eyes. I mean, these people are into that
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: shit as well.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: Answer your question just really quickly. So, the blood originates
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: in the bone marrow, which is a side of all
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: the stem cells. And so when you look at stem cells,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: you're looking at the complete blueprint of the entire human being.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: And so you're looking at plur puking and total putting cells.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: So when you look at that, you look at all
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: ancestral memory, all of it in that area.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 8: So the blood.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: Holds all the memory.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 9: Interesting, so the spirits are essentially after your heritage to anybody, Yeah.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: Or it could be a fee from thousands of years ago.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad of their experts. Yeah, because my
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: garbage can't do. The explanation was obviously not that great.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: That is an important thing.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like your immune cells, it contains receptors to all
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: the different bacteria, viruses, parasites and everything that all of
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: your ancestors have ever encountered since the beginning of time.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 8: Wow, so blew my mind with that. That's incredible. I
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: had no fucking idea. That's crazy. Who else was into
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 8: that shit? Fucking Leonardo da Vinci was really interested in blood,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 8: in the human anatomy and I despite what people say,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: he was a heretic, but he was also an occultist.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, when I went to the Vatican, it
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: was less than a year ago. Already the lady in
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: there said that they acknowledged now that he drew the brain, Yes,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: on the ceiling. They don't dispute that that is not
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: a brain though.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 8: That why I mentioned it is because he was obsessed
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 8: with the human anatomy and blood, and he was performing
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: autopsies in the basement of the Vatican, which was illegal
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 8: for the time, letting.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: Him do it bodies and then perform, I guess, like
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: a real autopsy. But he was a closeted anatomis and physiologist.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: There's another way to look at sex magic too, but
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: blood magic and specifically and more of a Dowist or
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: Eastern methodology, which is very alchemical and it's about developing
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: just like uh, Star Wars kind of talks about I
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: forget what the chemical or.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: Or conscience.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: This is like, this is our mitochondria, right, And so
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: when really an example of blood magic might be at
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: least for a health aspect, is developing ourselves to be functioning.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: At a higher rate.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: And maybe to nick point, it's also allegorical for when
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: our blood has more mitochlorian or whatever. The magic is
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: the mitochondria and different chemicals that are, you know, enabling
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: electrical flow better. Maybe we can make more spiritual connection
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: beyond that too. So the mitochondria, I think is a
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: real physical aspect of blood magic that we can we
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: can raise.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Right without the dallas.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: They don't they don't hurt themselves.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 12: Right like blood just and that's will be the last
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 12: thing I say, is that it is the ability to
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 12: carry h metal and then be conductive and generate electricity
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 12: throughout the body. Right, It's what keeps electrical system aside
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 12: from the neurons and all that other stuff. But if
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 12: you were to look at which is a it looks
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 12: like a Maltese cross. It looks like all of the symbolism,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 12: whether it's the swastika or whatever it looks like all
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 12: the symbolism of ancient esoteric the heme group that holds
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 12: the iron within the red blood cell.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: So you see it over and over again throughout the
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: blood system.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 7: We're talking about the blood and how there's a connection
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 7: to the bones through the marrow and things like this.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 7: This kind of gives a whole nother light to why
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 7: so many cultures do bone carvings on the dead and
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 7: use that as a part of their esoteric practices.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: We think of that because, oh, well, bones, it's a
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 7: rigid thing. They could carve into it easily, and it's
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 7: something that they could pass down sure out loud that
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 7: makes sense? Or is that a way to do kind
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 7: of third party blood magic through bones and through rooms
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 7: and all of these things.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: I see the connection one hundred percent.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: I think necromancy serve. Is that what we're talking here?
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: Oh one thousand percent.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Brother, As a former Mormon, I I know what you're
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: talking about, and I think that's you're onto something there, Yep, yep.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: Higher Like it takes a lot to break down bones.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: When you talk about like cremation or whatever, you put
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: them in the in the oven. You jack it up
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: to five hundred degrees or whatever. When they're done, they
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: still have to pulverize the bones.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there's chunks that come out one hundred percent.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: Out of the cremation process, so bones endure. That may
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: be also another reason why they also do the carvings.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 6: I could see it one hundred percent, you know you
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: real quick.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: I just want to say, Ethan, you talked about I
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: guess the electricity and the blood and the whole thing
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: with like kind of talking about I guess like Star
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: Wars going back to the stuff inside their blood. If
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: you I mean, it could just be a coincidence. But
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: if you even think about the dudes at the end,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, those motherfuckers are shooting electricity out of their fingertips.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think he got a lot of his
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: ideas from she related topics, not not even like generally,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: but specifically a lot of the force. You know, really
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: it's very brucelyish to.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 9: Oh dude, Jacob actually bet me that I couldn't learn
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 9: to harness my cheek to be able to move things
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 9: just with my own force. And in a couple of
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 9: weeks we're going out to Florida for Brohemian Grove and
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna put on a fucking spectacle for everybody over there,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 9: and I'm gonna staring Jacob into a believer, because shun
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 9: the goddamn believers. Okay, I will move shit with my
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 9: mind like I am a Jedi.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 7: I'm actually working on a little video presentation right now,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 7: just like it was the guy send pie Chan whatever
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 7: which the name alone, the jokes right themselves, everybody.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: I hate to be that guy, but shit, and there's
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: tons of videos of this guy going like ooh.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: And like moving things. I'm working on my own little
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 7: video presentation for you. I'm gonna show it on the
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: cold here in about a week of me harnessing my cheek.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: To move things.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: Yes, don't worry, it's gonna be wonderful. How dare you what?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to get a little more woo woo. I'm
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 7: gonna show you how I could be moving things in
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 7: my hands.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 8: Bro total Have you guys heard of Andrea Pouharich.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 6: The name sounds familiar with Jogma memory here, Julia.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 8: He's He came out in the late sixties early seventies,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 8: and he was with this other guy named Uri Geller
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 8: trying to teach people how to move things with their
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 8: minds and ben spoons and like he was one of
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 8: the first, like telekinesis guy, he's.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: Getting really big right now because of the telepathy tapes
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 5: and like Nephelin Desk Squad, they're kind of tying him
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: into it and their presentation on it's pretty interesting.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, a lot of science elogy stuff with irregular
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: andre Perhartch because they did all that through SRI, with
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: folks like hal Putoff, who has been telling folks since
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two that aliens eat strawberry ice cream in
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: Nevada and he's still today on Joe Rogan spouting off
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: more nonsense. But some folks never learned even though he's
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: an O two seven you know, OT level seven ZW
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: you know, disciple of scientology.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 7: You know, dude, we just did an episode on scientology
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 7: and uh we actually had some people message us be like, bro,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 7: now might need to be careful.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: They'll come after you.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 7: First of all, First of all, they can fucking try.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: You'll get ready. We stay ready first of all.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 7: Second of all, all we did on that episode was
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 7: just bring up other people that brought things to light
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 7: and how they went out of their way to fuck over,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 7: like out of their way to ruin these people's lives.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: The level of spy fuel craft that was done to
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 7: root people. And it's like, first of all, Tom Cruise
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 7: can come get some whenever he's ready. Okay, I'm not
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: worried about the scientology Pope coming.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 6: Dude. He does his own stunts.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 10: Man, I mean, I'm not gonna's gonna reach up punch
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 10: me in the knee.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 8: He's foot five. I'm pretty sure he's like that. He's
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 8: super fucking short. But if I would not fuck with
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 8: Jacob anyways, because I asked him to send me a
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 8: video clip for my nineties series and he's walking around
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 8: in his backyard just wielding an axe, just tossing it
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 8: around halpazardly.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: I'm like, fuck, yeah, weapons around me. But that's because
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: I do armored fighting, So I mean, it.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 7: Was it was weird that I that I had the
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 7: axe in my hand when I sent that video. I
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 7: was actually like hitting my dummy and like getting a
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 7: workout in. I was like, oh, yeah, I did have
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 7: an axe.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: It's dull. It's dull. I should mention the one behind me.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 8: So it made the video. It made the video especially
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 8: as you're talking about like John Benet Ramsey swinging and.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: It was great watch this video.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 7: That is as a matter of fact, I was just
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 7: slaying around. So yeah, for anybody who doesn't know, I
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 7: do armored m m A. So me and my boys
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 7: put on eighty pounds of steal armor and beat the
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: fuck out of each other with axes and swords in
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 7: a cage.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: And that's that's what we do for fun sometimes.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: So you know you're gonna get ready if you stay
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 7: like robots robot That's what Yeah.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: F scientology goes. I think they're amongst their own little
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: civil war right now, as far as the cubing run,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: amongst the internal executives and whatnot. And I agree with
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: you on Tom Cruise.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: All I do.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: I do like watching his films. He does play it's
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: all guy who knows how to fight very well.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 7: Oh he's a phenomenal actor and I'm not going to
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 7: take that away from him. But also am I like
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: if I was to meet him face to face him
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: for whatever reason he decided that he wanted to try me, Like,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 7: first of all, I am here for your smoke, sir.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: I don't know what her terms are, but they are acceptable.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: But well, just beware he wields that you know, Xenu's
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: superpowers because he is he is Xenu's numbers two disciple
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: on Earth behind Miscavige.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 7: So well, if he can make Xenu come down on
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 7: that Boeing seven forty seven like they believe, all the
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 7: aliens fly on I you know it, he might get
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 7: a convert out of me. But until then, I'm good.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 7: I've tried the little e meters before and uh, for
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 7: the record, just so everyone knows, you just squeeze him.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 7: That's how you make it ping. It has nothing to
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 7: do with your electro anything. It has nothing to do
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 7: with your spirit man him.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: In your butt.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: You did it wrong.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: You got to insert one into the rectum right, you
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: can complete the circuit.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: See it's like it's like a saddle. You'll hold in
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: one and you sit on the other.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, well fair enough. Maybe I just didn't do
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: it right, you know whatever.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: But what were the just walking down the street and
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: you saw like a scientology booth?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: How did you get into that? Oh, the e meter thing?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: I visited?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 7: Clue, dude, I was in middle school at my uh,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 7: at my local flea market and as we do. I'm
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 7: looking at the butterfly knives and the crazy flea market things,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 7: and I see this booth set up like eighty Dianetics books.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: I'm in middle school. I have no fucking clue what
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: dianetics is, right, And the guy that was working it
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: looked like a complete certified crackhead like I. I there's
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: no other way to describe this skinny white guy right
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: right right.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 7: And my dad, who had been around the block of
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 7: time or two like, knew exactly what this was. But
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: my dad isn't the type that's gonna shield me from
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 7: the ooh, don't go talk to them. He's gonna let
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 7: me explore. And he's there to watch. My Dad's just
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 7: the best. And I see he's got this weird thing.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 7: It's like two silver cans that hooked up to wires
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 7: and it's a little pegger pegger wow, meggar, excuse me,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 7: and the little needle pings out, and uh, I'm thinking,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 7: like yo, am I about to get shocked? Is this
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 7: one of those prank things where it's gonna send He's like, no, no, no,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 7: I'm just gonna go through a list of things and
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 7: you just hold them and I'm gonna stop you. Whenever
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 7: something causes you stress or this and this, We're gonna
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: talk about it.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, keep in mind, I'm like twelve.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: I couldn't give a fuck less about dianetics or any
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: of this other type of bullshit. I'm you know, whatever,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: I'm looking for swords at discount rates and shit, but whatever.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: And yeah, so I hold it and I'm thinking about
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 7: like my friends in school and whatever. I think about
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 7: my parents for a second and it pings. He's like, oh,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: right there, what were you thinking about. I was like,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 7: I'm thinking about my parents? Do they cause you stress?
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: My dad's right there.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: He's like, do I need to like walk away so
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: you can answer honestly?
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 7: I'm like, no, this guy is not my therapist. What
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 7: we're talking about here. No, my parents don't cause me stress.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: He's like, oh, well, uh, I really think you should
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 7: buy this book. It was like, seventy dollars again, I'm
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 7: fucking twelve, and I might a flea market in Louisiana.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 7: What the fuck do you think I came here with seventy.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: Dollars my ass, dude.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 7: But anyway, before I had my fans back, I start
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 7: squeezing them like crazy, just to see what would happen.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: Pling, ping, ping, ping, And I'm like, oh, so that's
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: your gambit.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 7: You're just waiting to see when finally my my muscles twitch,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 7: I'm supposed to work myself for that fuck off.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: It's because when you squeeze harder, it creates a greater
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: con uh you know, you sweat more. So it's it's
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: measuring the sweat on your on your palms. This is
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: what it's doing. So you sweat more than it's going
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: to be ping more of your sweat less, it's gonna
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: ping less. And it is silly, right, I mean, yeah,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: but they Yeah, they're an interesting group. They're an interesting group.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: Nonetheless, I remember when I was a kid, I saw
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: that Yo, that book was on the TV. I remember
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: seeing all the team in the stores commercials, even asking
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: my fall I had seen it so many times. I
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: had asked my dall like, what is that book supposed
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: to be about? Short fucking constantly at one point and
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: he was just like, I don't know, that's some cult shit,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: and he's like the guy's supposed to be dead, but
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: he's like, I don't think he used.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 7: Said sold the book sold retail for twenty five ninety nine.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 7: This fucker is trying to hawk it for seventy bucks
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 7: a pop. He was a piece of shit, which I
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 7: mean told me everything I needed to know about the
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 7: Church of Scientology.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: It's a money grab.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: It's a money reason like broke people. So he's got
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: to email you. I mean, you gotta start capitalizing what
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: you get in. They want you to sell. They want
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: you to have bigger dreams than twenty five ninety nine. Right,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: w you have seventy dollars dreams.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: You really don't mean it if you don't spend the
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: money exactly, dude, I'm telling you, no one with that bad.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: Oh man, these people every want to sell. You can
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: suffer twelve dollars if you have twelve dollars dreams. But
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: I mean they want you to have like one hundred
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: dollar dreams, two her dollars dreams, you know, so.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: Some people's kids. Man, I'm telling you.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 9: Look, there is one more thing that I did want
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 9: to mention as far as here and this this is
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 9: pretty old actually, so the the Warrens family.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you ever heard of them, but
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: oh ship is that me and you? I uploaded that. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: and that Jonathan beat the fuck out of me with
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 6: a long sword. What's actually I.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 9: Think this was as a matter of fact, yeah, a little,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 9: it got a little bent. If you want to play it,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 9: go ahead, we can watch it, all right.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, you threw it up to maybe this might
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: what you were talking about fired up?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 6: Would you prefer to do with with weird metal?
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: Look?
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 6: How sure my hair was.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: Lacking on you? Just a flesh wound?
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 7: Oh no, yeah, it left a pretty sizable bruise. But
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 7: I mean the armor it protects us from dying. But
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 7: we have a lot of broken bones in this sport,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 7: like a lot. So yeah, kind of bad for that.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 9: Got his sword a little bent up there, but he
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 9: said hit him as hard as I could. And I
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 9: mean it's not too often somebody tells you that.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: You know, you got to you got to.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, I was charging people. I was a little farmer's mark.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 7: We put on an event for Hindsight twenty twenty when
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 7: Louisiana it was one hundred and six ambient temperature that
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 7: day with like eighty percent humidity. Hey, wearing eighty pounds
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 7: of steel armor in that environment.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: Not my smartest idea. I've ever done. Gonna be honest
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 6: with you, but it was fun. The kids enjoyed it.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: They came up and beat the shit at me with
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: like frying pans and little axes. It was a good time.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a party anyway, all right.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 9: So I yeah, I wanted to get into this, just
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 9: this one last thing as far as Dudley Town goes som.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 9: So yeah, it says over the years, there's there's allegedly
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 9: been everything from suicides to demonic possessions and all of
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 9: the hysterical drama in between.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: The Warrens.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 9: So if you're unfamiliar with the Warrens, you probably know
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 9: where they're most well known from, and that is Ed
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 9: and Lorraine Warren, which were in uh, the the Conjuring
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 9: series and stuff like that, right, Annabel the doll, right exactly, Yeah,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 9: Annabel as well.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: And they just lost they just lost that Rob Roberts
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: cousin or something.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: Where did you hear that they lost it from?
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: I was Connecticut.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 6: It was in New Orleans a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 6: Hold on, now, what the fuck has happened?
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: There was news articles just a few days ago they
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: were lost in Trainsit somewhere.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 6: Just so they can make.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: Moving curse dolls. Losing the place.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 8: Annabel the haunted parcel.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: It's as bad as not warning folks that you got
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: a haunted doll, and you go in an old Civil
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: War museum to go look at the mound, you know
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: what I mean, and suddenly that person gets on it.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: For thirteen years, Jesus.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 6: All that, dude.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 9: But as far as the Warren, so that's Ed and
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 9: Lorraine Warren, they're all is like, they're very well known.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 9: They've been doing a lot of ghost adventure type of
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 9: investigating over the last I think like fifty years.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 6: They've been doing it for a hot minute.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 9: But it says the Warrants famously recorded a Halloween special
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 9: from Dudley Town in the early nineteen seventies, declaring it
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 9: officially officially in their quotes, demonically possessed, which essentially opened
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 9: the supernatural floodgates. Since then, it has been home to
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 9: all sorts of alleged paranormal experiences, with visitors witnessing all
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 9: manner of spirit and fansom, as well as having unsettled
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 9: feelings of dread and fear. As you might expect, the
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 9: area has also drawn the attention of those enthralled with
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 9: dark forces and demonic rituals, plus a healthy number of
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 9: amateur ghostbusters and teenagers simply searching for trouble. In short,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 9: it's become a damned destination. So it's literally called like
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 9: the village of the Damned. The Town of the Damned
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 9: is what it's known as.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 7: There's tons of witnesses and again it's literally a YouTube
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 7: search away of people that illegally, of course, have made
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 7: their way into Dudley Town. There's reports of them walking
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 7: through the woods and then hitting a patch of super
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 7: cold like almost like a section of the woods that
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 7: happens to be air conditioned where that's obviously not possible.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: Then they walk through when it's back to the regular temperature.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 7: Or them being pushed like heart shoved and falling and
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 7: then turning around nobody's there a cold hand slapping at
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 7: them or something like this. There's tons, tons of these
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 7: stories and nobody has any real quote unquote reason behind it.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 7: None of the stories make sense. But when you look
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 7: at the history of this place, it doesn't take long,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 7: it doesn't take much of a deep dive anyway to
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 7: show that there is obviously something there there's obviously something
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 7: I would say malicious personally. Little of the malfeasance going
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 7: on within the land. Is it the soil itself? Is
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 7: it the radiation? Is it spiritual? Is it a burial site?
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 7: Is it Salem witch esque? Is it English curse esque?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 7: Is it something else completely? Why do lightning strikes keep
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 7: happening in this motherfucker? Why do people randomly just wander
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 7: off into the woods never to be seen again.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 6: Look, we don't have the answers.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: The answer actually is yes, yes, all of that. I
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: almost wonder if it's like a Bermuda triangle type thing.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Why what's that like a Bridgewater triangle Bridgewater, Massachusetts?
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 6: Is that Is that a thing I have not heard
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: of that?
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's apparently haunted by the same war of King
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Phillips war apparently is why that's so spooky and mysterious.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: But it is this kind of Bermuda triangle concept, but
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: on land.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 6: Okay, it's extremely My.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Former stockers at a mental institution there right now. It's I've been,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: I've been kind of you know, it's a weird place
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: to put him, you know what I mean?
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 6: Is he the guy that made you eat a human Hamburger.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: That's a different guy, Buffalo jere Ervisa. This is the
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: guy whose family broke the curve of the Goat for
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs. He's from this famous sports hypnosis family
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: that they're credited with breaking the curse of the Goat.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: And he used to work for the family business before
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: he started his own PR firm and stalked me, and
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: then later someone else hired him to be his PR rep.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: That's what he was. He was stalking me to you know,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: hire you know, wanted me to hire him as my
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: PR rep. I'm like, I don't need a PR rep.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Some guy did hire his PR rep and he stabbed
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: him a lot.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 6: Using the money.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: Jacob Jacob Jacob.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: Ken revisa famous sports hypnotist.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you pay attention to see what this guy did.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: He was a hypnotist.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Scary that comes from this hypnosis Jacob. No offense there, Jonathan.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: I did wear that armored Jacob.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: Now fuck that.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 7: Jonathan hypnotizing once before and it was actually really cool.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 7: I highly recommend everybody.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: Go to I'm see.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's probably not some benefits to it, right,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, when you got a mind
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: I see. I'm just saying you got a multi state
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: trans apocalypse assassin. It seems kind of like a mind
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: control assassin from a famous sports hypnoesist family.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 9: Well, I did very I did bury some uh some
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 9: some suggestions into a subconscious that he to cross.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 6: Yet, so there you go.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 8: You put some trigger.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he sounds like doing some crazy ship.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 9: Look, whenever Jacob starts like, you know, pitching attention.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 6: Oh, I just want you to know. I'm telling you.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 7: Look, everybody calls me a fed because I'm more feet
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 7: on the ground. Well I've been saying this, dude. If
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 7: I'm the Fed, Jonathan's clearly my handler. He hypnotized me.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: Nothing else.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: I can see it. I can see the dynamic here.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 6: You see it.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 8: Mentioned something about the Warrens just really quick. So the
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 8: Warrens are infamous for the conjuring and Annabelle stuff, but
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 8: they were also the first investigator for the Amityville House
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 8: and they actually interviewed the actual serial killer guide the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 8: Ronald the FAO that murdered his whole family in there.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 8: They're also known for working the case that inspired the
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 8: Exorcist movie. But what people have found is wherever they go,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 8: there is a lot of activity that follows after that,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 8: so it's like they're almost conduits for some weird activity.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 8: The year that they investigated the kid that inspired the Exorcist,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 8: Ouiji Board sold off the shelves, So it's like, if
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 8: they've been somewhere, you almost have to wonder they didn't
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 8: contribute you a little bit. They're spirited, well yeah, and
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 8: it's like they open up doorways that they don't know
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 8: how to close and shit like that everywhere they go.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 8: So that insts me that they've been there and that
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 8: they said it was demonic.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 9: Just out of curiosity. Julia, you cover like a lot
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 9: of occult ritual list type of murders, and that's like
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 9: what you're most famous for coming on the cult. Do
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 9: you ever feel like you may be evoking a lot
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 9: of these types of energies whenever you're diving into stories
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 9: like this, Like does it keep you up at night?
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 9: Do you see shadow entities at the base of your bed?
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 9: Or is there any crazy shit going on?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: I might end up dead from all the stuff he
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: talks about, and I think about that often.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 8: That no, he might really end up dead.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: But that's.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 8: The thing that gets me the most, that haunts me
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 8: the most. I have covered a lot of like occult,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 8: you know, ritualistic murders, but the things that get me
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 8: the most upset are like things to do with kids. Obviously,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 8: like when I read Program to Kill and I read
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 8: about all the pedophile rings and stuff like that, the
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 8: Franklin scandal, MC martin preschool. There's actually a cult it's
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 8: called Hand of God, right Hand of God cult that
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 8: you covered. No which one the one that's a kid
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 8: diddler in.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Jesus and they all think they're Jesus. They're all getting the.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: Children of God, children of God.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: The River Phoenix family.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 8: Phoenix family, Yeah, and they were like, oh yes, if
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 8: your kid can't get to sleep at night, you got
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 8: to diddle them.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 6: From the rubs.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: The followers do this to their own kid, well made.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: I mean Ship Rivers Phoenix said he lost his virginity
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: at the age of three.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 6: That seem but that's.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 8: That's that's coming from the cult. That's why I say,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 8: like the murder is the murders are almost easier to
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 8: talk about because you know, somebody died in the end
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 8: and they got put out of their misery. These kids
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 8: grow up and it's like the torture never stops. That
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 8: they're just fucked for life.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 9: Have you seen a recent picture of Amanda Binds? Broh,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 9: my god, I talk.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 8: About her all the time. She looks fucking horrible.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 7: She just longs and apparently is making a killing now.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: It's insane. Fuck would watch that bridge?
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Dude?
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I I personally don't understand it. Listen, I like
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 7: my women thick. Okay, that's not a secret.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 6: I've been very vocal about this in the past, but
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 6: I mean that that is.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 8: Not It looks like she works the Taco Bell drive
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 8: through in Detroit.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 7: Oh no, no, she never knows exactly what you mean.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 7: Whenever I heard about her only fans, I was like,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 7: wait a minute, is she like on a comeback? Does
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 7: she rebrand herself? And now she looks there's definitely.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: She appears to have taken over Process, an offshoot of
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: the Processed Church of the Final Judgment, because her old
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: buddy JJ Brian was used to be a leader. He's
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: dead and there's two females now and I suspect she's
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: one of them is leading that. That's yeah, you can
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: just look it up. JJ Brian. He was a he
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: was a Victorianism. It's a processed church offshoot operated out
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: of some mart He started it after he got busted
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: for being a spook over in Libya, and before that
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: he worked for Brent Scocroft. He was Brent Scowcroft's assistant
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: for a number of years. Brince Gocroft was Henry Kessinger's
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: VP of Kissinger and Associates and also a retired Air
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Force general and national security advisor. You know, spooky, spooky spook, right.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 8: But so Amanda Byn, she was one of the ones
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 8: that was with Dan Schneider in the hot and you know,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 8: I have.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: No doubt that that that plays into it, but just
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: look at the she was. Her and Brian were tired.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: She was.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: She was into that Victorianism stuff with.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 6: Literally JJ Brin is known.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 9: He goes by this name because he's an artist, but
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 9: he goes by the name of the Crown Prince of Hell.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 7: So if that doesn't make anybody think of Alistair Crowley
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 7: in some way, shape or form, then I don't know what.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: It's the Limah. It's an off shoot, it's the Lima,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: a gape lodge scientology process Victorianism. I mean, they just
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: they profess to be an offshoot off. I mean, it's
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: all the process symbols and theology and Christ and all
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 8: Tattooed eyebrows that look like exclamation points.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm telling you she's into some occult
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: ship and she's at the top of that cult. And
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: now that Brian's dead, oh my god about it. I
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: just my allegations at least, right, and I got nothing
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: to prove a close relationship with him. There's no there's
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: no question about that her and Brian were tight.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: She orgasms and she goes Amanda, please, just like.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: That's good. That's good.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 8: I mentioned her in my nineties series for the Cult
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 8: of Conspiracy because she is one of those weird ones.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 8: And you know, we recently covered something about Britney Spears
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 8: because she's fucking you know, bat ship these days too.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 8: If that's even her. Yeah, yeah, all the nineties people
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 8: have like kind of been losing it recently. But that
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 8: goes back to my original point though, is like all
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 8: these kids were fucked up off the Disney Channel and
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 8: Nickelodeon and like all these Mickey Mouse Club like they
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 8: all have dark, dark, dark histories. It's like I would
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 8: almost rather be murdered and somebody do some kind of
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 8: weird occult ritual with my body. It's like I'm dead.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 8: Who the fuck cares. But it's like these kids, they
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 8: don't get off the hook. It's like that's life. They
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 8: get a life sentence and it's waywards death.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 6: It's absolutely appalling.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 9: Jacob always likes to bring up Hillary Duff about how
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 9: she came out like unscathed, but there's some controversy with
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 9: old Cakes as well.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, I got a big fat ass.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 7: Now, yeah, is what I would consider the goat as
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 7: far as that's concerned. And now I'm not saying this
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 7: for a confirmed fact, but as far as I can tell,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 7: she is the only Disney kid to make it out
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 7: of that life her head intact, she seems to be
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 7: a good person. She seems to be doing her own thing,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 7: and she wasn't drug into all of the disgustingness.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: I could be wrong, but as far as.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 7: Nora tattoos, no drug uses, well, she's married and just
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 7: actually get a complete all natural birth, no drugs, nothing
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 7: like that at home. I mean, as far as I
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 7: can tell, she's she's up there, she's up there in
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 7: the goat status. But Jonathan, don't don't break my heart here.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 7: But what do you have about the Duff? I mean, look,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 7: sometimes we can overlook these things.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 9: Whenever you got dumps like a truugh what like that
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 9: whole thing with her ass that is astronomical. Literally, However,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry, we're going to deflate that as a little
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 9: bit because she actually this was a Q and on thing,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 9: So take it or leave it. But Hillary Duff was
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 9: mentioned as child trafficking.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: Well, it's you and number hearing about this too, because
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: if you get out and it's because you've got a
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: management position, you're not like, you know, what's your name,
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: Amanda Bayen sweeping the floor, you actually are executive now,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: I don't think you ever really get.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Out of it.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 8: Well, what about the Black Girls?
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: Sounds like lendsay lohand to me, right, that's kind of
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: Remember she was over in the Middle East trying to
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: kidnap a kid on Instagram one day and like no
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: one really asked any questions about it.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 7: She also publicly lost her fucking mind, right, so as
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 7: she did herbie. Immediately after that, she went downhill, and
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 7: apparently she want to come back right now, I don't
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 7: know she's speaking like Farsi in that video.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: Dude, Like, I mean you're you're Marin. I'm sure you
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: did some time over there in the in the Middle East.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, Farsie's not the language you pick up overnight.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 6: Nah, past tune in.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 7: Farsi are absolutely hard languages to learn. Their sentence structures
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 7: completely back ass words from English saying.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: And she's speaking fluently in that video from when she's
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: trying to kidnap that and I'm like, what is going on.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 6: On the She's actually's been activated.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 8: Yo.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 9: This is where a lot of that U that qan
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 9: on shit about Hillary Duff really started. So it was
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 9: trending back in twenty twenty. But she had posted a
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 9: video of her eight year old son naked on Twitter
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 9: and she's let me see. So she said that someone
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 9: pointed out on Instagram that I did a nude of
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 9: her son. So I did a nude of Luca, which
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 9: is the name of her son. And then she goes,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 9: which I did, So we covered that up with a sticker.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 9: It's like, you put your naked son on Instagram in
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 9: Twitter and then you're like, oh, we're gonna just throw
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 9: a little sticker up there.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 6: That almost sounds like, uh like, maybe you're fishing. I
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 6: hadn't heard about that one now.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: On this Instagram sound.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 6: Like you see oh oh h, what's his name? Tom Brady?
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, how he was with his
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 6: eight year old son. It sounds something ken to that fuck.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: When they were were they kissing? Is that the one?
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about? A little too long
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: their neck and behind the stadium mana stands disgusting.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 7: Also, I'm not a big fan of Tom Brady, but
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: you know, I think he's I think he's a little
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 7: over hyped, but neither nor there.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: He also started charges in that whole FTX thing, and
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: he took about five hundred million dollars for sponsoring, so
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I got questions.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 6: He's also from Witchcraft too.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say that Jiselle was a
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 4: professor switch from Brazil.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, his career spiraled out of control after she left
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 5: his life, which is you know, his age. Who knows
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 5: it could be either way, but it is Tom Brady's
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 5: ex wife. She left him for like her jiu jitsu trainers, right,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 5: she was secret model.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had actually.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 6: Said or I forget said that.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, my wife was involved in witchcraft, and you
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 9: know she she just so happened to guess right every
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 9: time I would play in the Super Bowl, because he
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 9: went to like seven or eight or I don't know
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 9: how many fucking super Bowls he went to, maybe nine
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 9: something like that, and because I think he won six
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 9: super Bowls, and I guess she allegedly quote unquote guessed
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 9: right every time that he was going.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 5: To win or lose because she made it happen exactly.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 5: She was shissed at him when they played the Giants.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: I never heard this before. Now, I never heard. I mean,
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: I'm into it. I never heard the witch Oh yeah,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: she's quite open about it. I just don't. I hate
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady so much. It pays so little attention to it.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: So I've completed some blind it's clearly a blind splot
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: blind spot form here, now I gotta go. Yeah, check
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: that out.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 6: Would you say it's possibly a blind side?
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: I might have been blindsided? There you go.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 7: God damn see, I don't even watch the NFL. To
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 7: be honest with you, I can't tell you last time
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 7: I sat and watched the game.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 6: I just can't.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 7: I'm not knocking those that are into it by any means.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 7: Everybody's got to find their blue pill thing. I get that, right,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 7: But dude, it's oh fucking rigged. And even trying to
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 7: watch a game now, there's so many new rules that
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 7: they didn't have when I was growing up. It's it's
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 7: it makes it unenjoyable at most.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: Awful sports just saturated with awful the culture now that
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 5: it's I used to enjoy football, but last time I
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 5: tried to watch a game, it is just like all
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 5: this stuff that didn't used to be there.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not there's actually there's actually some some substances.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: I mean some actual, real substance. What you're saying not
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: just you know, not I'm not diminishing your opinion there
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: calledby I'm just saying, like the league's change a lot
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: over the years. It is one team now, like legally speaking,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: they make all their decisions now is like one thirty
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: two branched team basically where they all profit share, right,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: like oh, entertaining One't like that, right, there was a
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: whole different kind of league. I mean, I just I'm
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: looking back. I mean it has evolved quite a bit
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: to the point where it has just become this real
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: shitty product to be asking. But it's always always been
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: scandalous though.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 6: Right, We did a deep dive on the NFL.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 7: They are the only sport that is list did as
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 7: an entertainment, not as an athletic division, meaning that he entertainment.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 7: No wrestling, I'm not calling that a sport. Yeah, that's
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 7: but you would think that when you watch a game,
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 7: an NFL game, you're watching competition, you're watching athleticism.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: No, no, dude.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 7: According to the American law, they are being taxed as
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 7: an entertainment industry, meaning that the games are rigged.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 6: There is a text there.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, right, the individual team matters are taxed, but
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: the league is not tax Again, there's just so many
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: games they played with these legal machimisms, ye that they
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: over the years of folks have corrupted those legal mechanisms.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: They corrupted back in the sixties. At this point where
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: it's just it's I mean, and it's always gangsters. The
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: whole league was started by gangsters. It's still you know,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know, organized crime figures. You know,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: Para Selton's uncle was how to sell his team from
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: the as the Chargers because you know, he was an
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: organized crime crime guy.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 6: Absolutely.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: I was telling Neck that it's the only sports thing
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 4: where they have the combine and if you know anything
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: about picking cotton, they're called combines. Public auctioning.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: Uh huh.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that a Nike commercial? Didn't they make a Nike
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: commercial with Colin Kaepernick?
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: Of that.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: Sounds about right, all right, And no, they should have.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: They missed an opportunity. Oh dude.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 9: Speaking of Colin Kaepernick, there was there was a guy
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 9: that I went to high school with, literally lived right
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 9: next door to in Louisiana. His name is Eric Reid,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 9: and he was one that was like always on Colin
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 9: Kaepernick's side every time he was taking a knee or
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 9: you know, holding his fist up in the air or whatever.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 6: So it's just crazy, like how small of a world
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 6: it is.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 9: Whenever, Like legit, dude, I used to live next to
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 9: this fucking guy and he was the quietest all like,
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 9: never talked, like we're super shy, and all of a
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 9: sudden he's leaving. He's leading some kind of Black Lives
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 9: Matter movement. I'm like some some there's definitely some corrupt
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 9: shit going on in the NFL. We really in all sports.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, had you been Colin Kaepernick adoptive parents like, what
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: a dick this kid is? We raised him, we sent
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: with him on these football games.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 6: Think about being cameltoe. Harris's dad who she's saying.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: Like, Oh, I'm Jamaica.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 6: We I get down with this and this and this.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 6: Her dad is a white dude.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, Scott's Irish lady, what are you talking about?
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 7: Right, He's a professor. He has worked his ass off
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 7: to get to a level where his name is reputable
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 7: in US in education and all she says, oh is Jamaican.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 7: You know we smoked that reefer and he's just like
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 7: fuck you.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: Speaking legally speaking, they're Jamaican. But the Hamilton's and the
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: Browns movie, they're about seven in the early seventeen hundreds
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: from you know, Scotland and Ireland, so they're they're Jamaican
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: in that regard.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she's part of the Brahmins, like the fucked up Brahmans.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: That's your mom's side. Yeah, the Indiana that's even worse
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: side of you ask me.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 7: And dependent on who she was talking to, depending on
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 7: what race she claimed, Kamala wasn't just trash, absolutely.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 8: Trash trash ass bitch one hundred.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 7: I heard her claim black, I heard her claim white,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 7: I heard her claim Indian, I heard her claim Southeast Asian. Like,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you cannot actually be behind fifty seven when
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 7: we know who the fuck her parents are.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 6: Bitch Like, you know, hey, I know I'm just an
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 6: asshole Republican. I suppose Yeah, yeah, I'm with.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 8: You, Jacob.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed the Kamala Show though it's a good It
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: was a good show to watch. I mean that, you know,
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: it's funny to watch. It's a lot of comedy if
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: you asked me, because who knows who's running things these days.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: But it certainly wasn't her, and it certainly wasn't the
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: other fella, you know what I mean.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 6: But she was the America's drunk aunt.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 7: Every time she spoke, it sounded like she just down
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 7: two fucking bottles of oh and was just spitting off
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 7: of the mouth about whatever she seemed was a drunk
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 7: aunt at the party.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was washing down some benzees with some wine
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: for breakfast, for sure, that the Kamala Ayars power breakfast.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 7: It still blows mind that the left really tried running
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 7: her as like the odd serious.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how dumb they are. They're like, this is
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: a good candidate. We're gonna be right behind her. It's
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: it's just that's the nature.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 6: Like they threw her in there to throw the game.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 6: But at the same time they ruined themselves.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 7: And I don't mean to turn this into a whole
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 7: political conversation, but at the same time, why not If
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 7: the left as a whole cannot find a person who
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 7: is likable, who is not a psychopath, then I don't
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 7: know if they'll win another election.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 6: At least for the next four or five.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 7: Like that, that seems to be the thing, right, if
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 7: you could find somebody who's just left of center, who
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 7: can make the screaming lib towards satisfied enough, but also
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 7: seems like a decent person who seems even slightly remotely
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 7: competent to run against whoever the fuck goes after Trump, right,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 7: And that's I don't know who that will be. I'm
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 7: hearing things they're saying. Good question, But maybe he'll groom
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 7: his children to take on that. Maybe we'll have a
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 7: Trump dynasty, Old Junior or even Ivanka or who knows,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 7: who knows, barn When the time comes who knows.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: It's You realize, Bally, go ahead, you realize Hillary has
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: already thrown her hat in to run in the next
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty eight election.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 7: I don't know how many times her witch's cap, that is,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 7: you know, the country has spoken multiple times, even when
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 7: the Democrats completely chopped Bernie Sanders off of the legs
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 7: to get her to the position of the DNC candidate.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 7: America doesn't want her, they never had.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: It's insane, for sure, for sure, But this is why
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: we got Biden and Harris because of John Podesta running
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: the DNC and and league with Clinton and Obama.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 7: But really, I would argue Pedesta is the one making
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 7: those decisions. I think it's honestly even deeper than that.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 7: And we talked about this in the Tavistock episodes we
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 7: just recently did. It's like, the only the only reason
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 7: we know certain names is because they are somebody's bitch. Okay,
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 7: the only way that we know Podessa's name, The only
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 7: way you know the rothschild's name is because they are
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 7: somebody's lackey. They are answering to somebody. That's the only
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 7: way we're even allowed to know their names. And when
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 7: you get to that level of we're talking the international
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 7: shadow government that is running the world.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's Tavistock. I'm not saying it's the
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 6: Committee of three hundred. I'm not saying it's the Club
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 6: of Rome.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking it's all their boss right, it's.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: Name of the hierarchy. They're there too. From Podessa to
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: sit through the route through Linda Rothschild, you know what
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: I mean. So that you you know you're talking about
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: there as far as these connections go, Where where the
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: commanders are coming from, I don't know what they're going through.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: But Podesta, the Jesuit fella, you know they're in him
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: and a town you're deep in with the Vatican to date.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: You know, they're they're taking over from somebody, but they're
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: they're portraying those orders, manifesting his orders through. They're they're
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: big occultist. They're definitely manifesting them through. You know, Hillary Clinton,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: you know Obama because they did a deal together back
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: to Diane finestigns Layer back there in two thousand and nine.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: So gosh, fine, they're all on one team. They're all
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: on the same they're all cute.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 7: And fine Stein's another one that she just I'm not
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 7: saying that I wish for anybody's death, but I'm saying
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 7: that she needs, she needs to go away, like it's
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 7: it's to the house.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 13: Did she die?
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 6: Fine Stegn's not dead yet, is she?
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: I think I think she is. Maybe I'm thinking Pelosi's died. No,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: I think Pelosi is alive.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 6: No, yeah, Pelosi's husband and her under indictment right now.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: For inside her mind, sign's dead there she died in
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: office then right she they finally maybe the Chinese spy
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: killed her.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 6: That was her driving Oh ship got in twenty twenty three? Good,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, I mean ri ip and all that. But
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 6: like fuck, yes, all right, Okay.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: Was in office thanks to a twinkie.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah that was I forgot about that.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: Actual story she came to she came to power thanks
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: to a twinkie.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 7: But I think it's all a part of the plan, right,
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 7: even our American politics right now, I believe that our
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 7: elected officials are selected elected. And yes, while this past election,
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 7: I believe that, yes, the American people's voices were heard.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 7: I also think there was no possible way that they
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 7: could have pretended like Kamala won this election like they
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 7: did with Biden, right, they could at least try to
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 7: put the pieces together. They stole the election one hundred percent.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 7: That's not even an up for conjecture, and fine, at
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 7: least in some way, shape or form, we could imagine
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 7: a world that's true. There's no way they could have
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 7: done that with Kamala and not had a revolt on
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 7: their hands. I mean, fuck, we were about two centimeters
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 7: away from having a real life civil war if Trump
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 7: would have caught that round in the dome rather than
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 7: in the ear.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. I don't I just
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: don't know when folks are trading getting vaccines for cheeseburgers
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: and French fries. The help revolt but the Blasia commercial.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. But and I hear
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. But I just think that you'll be
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: surprised what folks to be convinced of. I think when
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: when it's all said and done with what Biden's state
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: of health was. I know for a fact he was
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: getting lost in his home ten years ago. So yeah,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: you know what, where is that now? It's not good?
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: Where is that now? These reports that he was getting
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: lost in the clause of the White House. Totally believable
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: to me because ten years ago that he couldn't get
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: his way out of his own home. So obviously that's gonna,
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: you know, progress, He's gonna the rooms are gonna get
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: smaller that he gets lost, and now he's down to
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: the classet apparently.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 7: And I'll be honest with you, I actually have a
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 7: weird able to speak on this perspective. The Joe Biden
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 7: that just ran against Trump is not the same human
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 7: being that was the VP under Borrow.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: I'm open to it.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's a clone. I'm not saying he's a.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 7: You know, all the acting and the plastic surgery and
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 7: all of this. I'm not saying he's a cyborg. I
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 7: don't know what the correct answer is. So I was
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 7: stationed in Washington, d C. Okay, I actually marched in
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 7: the Obama's inauguration. I have put eyes on Obama and
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 7: Biden myself at a very close distance.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 6: I can tell you any.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 7: Shoutow of any doubt Joe Biden that was the vice
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 7: president under Barack who say Obama is not the guy
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 7: who ran against Trump. These are two different human beings.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 7: And I don't mean like, oh, well, you know he's
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 7: changed a lot.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 6: No. No, I mean like they had different DNA. These
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 6: are different people.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with these, sir, because I know I'm
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: a retired Air Force military police police dude.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 6: Oh god, you were an MP.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I plan coordinated and executed the two thousand and
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: nine inauguration duties, all the MP duties for the two
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine or inauguration for the area. Where were you?
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 6: Where were you a station Anacosta?
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I was stationed there with Andrews and of the
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: Pentagon during during my seven years there.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 7: In DC, Andrews is where I did my pistol quaw.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, I was nation at eighth
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 7: and I and Washington d C. Okay, I'm familiar with
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 7: these spots, yepes and in the range of Andrews. He
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 7: used to be run by a number of my friends
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 7: over the years ran that range.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 6: So wait, you were there from what year to what year?
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 6: I was there from ten to fourteen.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: I was there from two thousand and six to twenty fourteen.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 6: Son of a bitch.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 7: We were chopping up the same dirt at the same time.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 7: First of all, you can agree with me fuck DC.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, I could agree to the twenty four team.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: When I left the place.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 7: Oh my god, the traffic there alone, the fuck the
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 7: fuck the you know how dangerous it is and how
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 7: it smells, and all of that dune. The traffic was alone,
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 7: is horrible.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: Do you recall it of this folks working the range
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: over there at Andrews, Perhaps a very short, very bald
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: fellow with BCG glasses like you get in basic training.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Actually I don't remember the name, but I remember
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 6: that particularly well.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: He ran the He ran the range over there from
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight to twenty thirteen. His name was
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: Rob Karate. I taught that man how to use a
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: walkie talkie, because that's what he would call them back
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: in the Saudi Arabia back in two thousand. You know,
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: it was right when they moved all the combat arms
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: guys into security forces, molding combat arms and law enforcement
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: and security all into one field. This dude was a
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: combat arms guy, you know, by training before they mold
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: him into that. He had never even touched any sort
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: of radio communications before. And he was a staff sergeant.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was an air first class. So you know,
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: all right, dude.
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 7: First of all, I need to ask you something because
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 7: I keep telling this story and people think I'm lying.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 6: You were there during this timeframe.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 7: Do you remember when a guy jumped the fence at
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 7: the White House, nady through all the security, and got
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 7: caught in the White.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 6: House making a sandwich in the kitchen?
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 7: Yes, No, he broke in, dude, and he was in
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 7: the kitchen making a sandwich, and it was while Obama
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 7: was there.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 6: Do you remember this? No?
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: I remember that he initially did knock on the door,
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: encountered one Secret Service agent who did not apprehend him,
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: and then he proceeded on into the kitchen. He's like, well, fuck,
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: if no one's gonna stap me, dude.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 7: I've been trying to tell people that this happened. They're like, no,
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 7: it didn't. I'm like, bro, look it absolutely happened. And
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 7: I who worked at Secret Service years later, and I'm like, bro,
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 7: how many different security measures did he like hit and
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 7: how many of y'all watched him and just let him go?
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 6: Like what were you doing? And the answer I got
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 6: was we were kind of bummed that the kitchen.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: Was where he was headed.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 6: I'll leave it at that, And I was like, bro,
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 6: what the fuck? And then cut to the Secret Service
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 6: blunder That was Butler, Pennsylvania, and it's like, you know,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 6: I'm starting to think that the Secret Service might also
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 6: be bought late.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They weren't known for doing their jobs an eleven
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: twenty two sixty three, were they? So I mean it
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: is kind of their thing, right, Jesus Christ.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 7: I'm glad someone else can remember this. One was there
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 7: when that took place. Good God, and that's true.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: Weird town man. That's building? Yeah, what's that?
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 6: And that woman that tried driving her car into the
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 6: Capitol building and didn't.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: Get very far up the steps with it, the one
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: that got popped real quick.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, she got popped.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: I was in the that's when I left after duty.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: Was in the reserves at Andrew's. I was the superintendent
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: of the security reserving it there on that flight line,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: and one of my troops was a Capitol police officer
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: involved in that incident.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 3: God damn.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what a wild time to live in DC. Oh
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 6: you were there for the horrible town.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: It's a dent of iniquity.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I did mention. So you guys were talking
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 9: about how Biden is a clone. Trump actually shared a truth.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 9: I guess it's called a truth. It's not a tweet
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 9: on truth social or whatever. He shared a message on
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 9: there saying that there is no Biden. There is no
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 9: Joe Biden. He was ex cute in twenty twenty and Biden. Uh,
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 9: it's a He's a clone. He's a clone, or a
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 9: double or a robotic, engineered, soulless, mindless entity.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: Is what you see.
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 9: Oh shits hashtags hashtag Democrats don't know the difference.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: I totally saw this. I forgot, and that's legit. He
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: did send that. I wouldn't true social even check. I
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: did even have a true one my first visit to
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: true social as a result of that, that post, he
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: said that on Twitter nor social, it's true social, but
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: it was. It was reposted on the Twitter, but I
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: had to go verify it. I'm like, come, it's wild shit.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: You have to go see if that's real.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean is a reanimated corpse. Everybody
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 8: knows is already sawing off the.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 6: He's a clone, probably the best clone out there. Some
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 6: are saying I don't know, but I'm just saying he's
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 6: probably a cone. Yeah I could believe this.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 9: It wasn't his post, but he shared it on his page,
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 9: So pretty crazy, dude. I don't I don't think it's
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 9: takes a genius to find out or to look at
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 9: Joe Biden and be like, yeah, that's not Joe Biden,
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 9: right O, Dude, about that ear lobes and we talk
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 9: about literally the entire facial structure is totally different. And
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 9: then let's just say that he is some kind of
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 9: soul of sensity. Well, that would make sense for all
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 9: of the children sniffing.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 3: It would, indeed.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 7: And I mean you think back to the Biden that
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 7: was there when Obama gave his his leaving office speech,
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 7: right when he was stepping out, and he had made
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 7: a comment about how the new administration I have hopes
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 7: that they will do what is right and what is
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 7: best for the American people, and then you see Biden
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 7: in the background doing like like cutting a joke, and
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 7: the people laughed and like the whole they like he
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 7: kind of had a sense of humor with them back then.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 7: That was that was a guy, the dude who swore
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 7: in and quote unquote beat Trump. That that is not
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 7: the same homeboy, I'm sorry, the two don't even look alike.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 7: But to the point the Liberals either A they can
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 7: tell the difference and they just didn't want to say anything.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 6: Or be they're that retard it and can't tell the difference.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 6: I don't, I don't know.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: It could be both close situation. I think at least
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: to some degree.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 9: You know, I could see that it doesn't even matter, dude,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 9: if it was him or not. He's just a placeholder
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 9: to carry out whatever they're trying to go. And so
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 9: I mean, and whether he was a clone, if it
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 9: was real Biden, and maybe he just had like extreme
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 9: dementia or whatever. Like they they got, they got done
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 9: what they planned on doing. I think, well, yeah, that's.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 7: Why he pardoned every single member of his family and
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 7: all the other people. Literally a few hours before he
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 7: left office, just started signing these mass pardons for any
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 7: and all crimes that they may or may not have committed.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 7: Signed Joe Biden Like, wait, I'm I'm sorry. You would
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 7: have to have some sort of insider knowledge to know
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 7: that these people could be indicted for you to just
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 7: sign such a Yeah, just guessing, I don't know.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 9: Retown transformed into politics but that's just usually what happens
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 9: on conspiracy shows.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: Well, you're not, You're.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 3: Far off.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: Like it said that general, that General Swift you're talking
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: about earlier in the rest of the early inhabitants at
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: post Revolutionary War where Society Cincinnati members getting land grants
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: and Joe Biden's a Society Cincinnati member as a result
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: of being US President, or you know this android Joe Biden,
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: what have you?
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 6: Jesus?
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't even know if they're going to
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 7: let him live much longer. And I don't mean him
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 7: as in jail. I mean the character of Joe Biden.
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: I feel's this thing around chocolate chocolate chip? Ice cream?
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: Is that? What is this thing? Is this a new
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: modern like technological advancement? We got an android that runs
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: on ice cream, chocolate chocolate chip.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 6: It's possible.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: Isn't that what he's always eating? Why do they always
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: show that dude eating ice cream? Have you ever noticed that?
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's got got a lot of I.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 6: Don't know, there's a few. He wants to go to
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 6: the ice cream truck. He has an excuse?
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 8: Is that their way of trying to make him look
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 8: more innocent, like what it is an ice cream goat? Yeah,
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 8: except it gives everybody the fucking creeps in the opposite effect.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 7: I can't take away or remove that guy from the
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 7: video of the guy. When now I was growing up,
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 7: there was this bad man.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 13: Everybody called him Papa, and uh, you know, I was
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 13: in the pool and the kids you should pull the
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 13: leg hairs and and I know, I know what you
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 13: know about education and poor kids are just as smart
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 13: as white kids.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 6: And I can't I can't remove the two.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: Corn Cornpop was a bad dude.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 7: Corn Pop, that's it. Corn Pop was a bad dude.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 7: It's like great, wait, I'm sorry. And he ran to
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 7: watch some bad boys too. I think they were asking
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 7: you about the green new deal, big dog. But sure,
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 7: let's talk about corn pop.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your lifeguard, Joe, what are you talking about corn pop?
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: He's talking about fighting the locals as a lifeguarden. Some
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: of these tails are just sobered. I mean, it's it's
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: again back to the people running things are so dumb.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: They hired a passure you, they hired some pr agency
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 1: that cancoct this stupid corn corn pop tail because never
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: one questioned it. They had a local Delaware news reporter
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: do a local news report from corns Old neighborhood confirming
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: corn Pop did exist and not a figment of Joe's imagination.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, what that happened.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 6: It didn't matter if he exists.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that was that was what they took
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: from the argument. So they took from the conversation.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 7: That would be uh, you know, I'm not saying I'm
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 7: not necessarily pro either political party because they're both doing disgusting,
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 7: underhanded things behind closed doors. Right, we can all agree
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 7: with that, but I will say, as far as that's concerned,
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 7: the liberals are doing the mostest of being like actual retarded.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 6: I don't even understand how that's logic.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 9: The Mad Scientist has something that she would love to interject,
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 9: which I think is an awesome facet to the story here.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, just very quickly, because I started looking up the
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 4: area and I saw I ran across an article that
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 4: said the Nazi American Bund tried to buy Southbury, Connecticut
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 4: in the late nineteen thirties. Nick and I talked about
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 4: the Nazi American Bund being involved heavily in Long Island
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 4: and with a lot of these laboratories that have been
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 4: linked to eugenics and with children testing and what have you,
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 4: one of them being in Montalk. But when you look
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 4: at Southbury, Connecticut and you judge the distance to Dudley Town,
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 4: connect it's about thirty miles away.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 9: And so it was in nineteen thirty seven, which was
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 9: around about the time that they shut it down to
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 9: the public interests.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 4: Well, and you know what cued me in is that
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 4: when you said that it was established in seventeen forty seven.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 4: And Nick and I have gone back and forth with
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 4: the nineteen forty seven being linked to a lot of
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 4: the German experimentation here in the States.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: Oh she, I can believe it.
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  Speaker 6: Project paper clip, y'all. It's worth the look into.
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  Speaker 3: Forty seventh president. This year is nineteen seventy eight, and
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  Speaker 3: this year had the same calendar, and that's forty seven
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  Speaker 3: years ago as well. Whoa yeah, those with that four
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  Speaker 3: to seven.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Was there anything else that you guys had on that
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  Speaker 3: is already over two hours? So I figured me, no,
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  Speaker 3: that's about it, yo. That was that was a lot.
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  Speaker 3: That was a lot, yo. That town is fucked up
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: something that place.
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  Speaker 7: It's all my bucket list of places I want to
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  Speaker 7: go check out for myself, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 7: I'm willing to catch a charge for a video.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I never know. If you guys go,
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  Speaker 3: let me know, I'll go with. I'll go bring my equipment.
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  Speaker 6: I need a mug shot. I'm jealous of all these people.
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  Speaker 3: Medi we can send the drone up first, see what happens.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's why I would go, because I would
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 3: do the drone first.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, Oh man, we gotta make it happen one
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  Speaker 6: of these days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let everybody know what's upping where they can find
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: your amazing work again, please guys.
• 2:22:09
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• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: Was holy shit.
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• 2:23:10
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, thank you guys very much. That was again,
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 3: that was a that was well presented. I mean that
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 3: was a chock full of information in there, a lot
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 3: of wild ship.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 6: I really having this man.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that really was a real bar parner for real.
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah. I'll leave you guys stuff in the bottom.
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  Speaker 3: I got u. I'll put every everybody here, who's the links,
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 3: I'll throw it in the bottom. Thank you all again
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 3: very much. I had a blast and until the next one,
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 3: everybody be well. Lada