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The Pentagon of Power in the Vikings Front Office, QB Quarrels, Bremer Beer | TSH Ep. 141 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of The School Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: beer and talking about the Viking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And speaking of beer, we tried a
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  Speaker 2: new beer from a new brewery tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was super good. We'll definitely get into all
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  Speaker 1: of that. We also chatted about the new GM that
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: the Vikings hired, Nolan Peasley.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he seems like he'll be a good fit.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty excited about that. But we also had to talk quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we just keep finding ourselves in this cycle.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of annoyed by it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, don't worry. We also talked to other stuff
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  Speaker 2: from Ota so far, so it's not all quarterback talk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's just exciting that the guys are back out
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  Speaker 1: on the field and practicing, and it's always exciting to
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: be here with a good beer, hanging out and talking
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  Speaker 1: about the Vikings. So wherever you are, grab a cold
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  Speaker 1: one and join us for episode one of The School Hop.
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  Speaker 1: School School, Geez, do.
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  Speaker 2: It again at school?
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna jump right into some beer tonight,
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  Speaker 1: I brought the beer, and this is a new brewery
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  Speaker 1: that we've never had before. I think it's a relatively
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  Speaker 1: new brewery in the state of Iowa. Of course, if
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  Speaker 1: you've been a long time watcher of the show, you
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  Speaker 1: know that we only drink Iowa brewed beer right here
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  Speaker 1: on the show. Of course, we drink other beer at
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  Speaker 1: other times, but when we're sitting behind the desk right here,
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  Speaker 1: Iowa beer is what we like. And this comes out
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  Speaker 1: of a Breamer Brewing Company. Breamer is the county name
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  Speaker 1: for uh where Waverly, Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna ask so confident because it's br
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  Speaker 2: E M E R. I would have said, I did
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  Speaker 2: say Bremer.
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  Speaker 1: It's Breamer. I lived up in that area, not in
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  Speaker 1: Bremer County, but I lived one county south in Blackhawk
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  Speaker 1: County there and I spent some time in Waverley, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that's where the brewery is located. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: our first ever Breamer Brewing Company beer, and this is
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  Speaker 1: called the bb Beer Bash. It's a double dry hopped
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  Speaker 1: hazy I p A, which is definitely yeah, that's my wheelhouse.
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  Speaker 1: So six point two percent and it does say that
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  Speaker 1: it's got sediment in it, and it recommends it recommends
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  Speaker 1: rolling the cans. So we both did that a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think we're ready to pour it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was last week when we had
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  Speaker 2: the the Little Green Men is that what it was?
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  Speaker 1: The pistatue statue.
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  Speaker 2: They had like a nice little almost like poem description
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  Speaker 2: of the beer. This one just it's a beer you
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  Speaker 2: drink when you're drinking beer. So I like it. Both
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  Speaker 2: both descriptions are valid. I can't wait to dive into
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  Speaker 2: this one. This one are They almost have a boozy
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  Speaker 2: taste to it, and it's really happy just from the smell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited to give this one a try. I will
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  Speaker 2: say to the logo of the brewery here, it's pretty provocative.
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  Speaker 2: It's a man or a person with a hop for
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  Speaker 2: a head and just laying very comfortably.
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  Speaker 1: You know. You know it would be really funny is
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  Speaker 1: if we superimposed our skull hop logo on that. That
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  Speaker 1: would be pretty fun That would be really funny. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if Prettymer Brewing Company would appreciate that, but no, no,
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  Speaker 1: but and we'd have to change the color of the
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  Speaker 1: canc This is green this is green.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's green, I would imagine for the citra hops
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  Speaker 2: that it says, but yeah, the color of this beer
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  Speaker 2: the can. But the beer is really nice. It's like
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  Speaker 2: a nice light, very hazy but very bright color, really
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  Speaker 2: good head retention. And we both had I wouldn't even
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  Speaker 2: say we both had super hard pores, but nice, good
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  Speaker 2: head retention. You are not seeing through this beer at all,
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  Speaker 2: like it's super hazy, but that's what you would expect whenever.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever you're ready. I'm ready to dive in this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still trying to pour it, but I'll wait and
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  Speaker 1: finish that later. School school, Well that was bad. We
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  Speaker 1: got to do that again, school skull. Okay, yeah, yeah
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  Speaker 1: it's good hoppy. That's nice, very aromatic florally, but good
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  Speaker 1: and just a nice, easy drinking. It's not super boozy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say for.
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  Speaker 1: A six point two, so yeah, usually.
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  Speaker 2: Double dry hopped. To me, I immediately think, like boozy flavor,
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  Speaker 2: probably pretty good, but like if I hear the double
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  Speaker 2: dry hopped, it's like, okay, this is we're drinking a
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  Speaker 2: beer like we're diving in this one's really nice and mellow.
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  Speaker 2: Every flavor is good nothing really overtakes it all. I
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  Speaker 2: like it, nice, citrusy kind of flavor a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. It's job guys, It's a beer that
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  Speaker 1: you drink when you're drinking a beer.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: That's perfect, plain and simple. Well, we've got some Vikings
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  Speaker 1: news to talk about. Some one very big development that
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  Speaker 1: we'll probably talk about first, and then OTAs started this
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  Speaker 1: last week, so there's obviously some stuff coming out about
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  Speaker 1: the happenings there, but we got to start with the
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  Speaker 1: newest Vikings news. What is that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, as of so, we're recording on Sunday this time.
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  Speaker 2: Usually it's Monday nights, but this week it's Sunday. And
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  Speaker 2: as of yesterday early afternoon ish, the Vikings I guess
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  Speaker 2: have they even announced the higher yet? Yeah, the team
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  Speaker 2: has announced the higher Okay, Well, it became news that
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings hired a new GM, Nolan Teasley, the former
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  Speaker 2: assistant GM of the Seahawks. Been with the Seahawks for
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  Speaker 2: like I think I saw thirteen thirteen years going on fourteen,
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  Speaker 2: and very highly touted person within league circles. Apparently admittedly Evan,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna break any news here that
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  Speaker 2: you and I are not going to pretend that we've
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  Speaker 2: known of this guy for forever and where I probably
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  Speaker 2: heard his name for the first time ever yesterday when
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  Speaker 2: it was announced that he was hired, or you know,
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  Speaker 2: recently when he was a part of the finalist group. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Vikings have a new GM. They've they've been running with
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  Speaker 2: the Brisness as the assistant GM since January.
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  Speaker 1: Get fired probably January.
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  Speaker 2: January February timeframe. And now it's they said after the
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  Speaker 2: draft they would really the ownership said that they would
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  Speaker 2: really go full force into a GM search, and it's
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  Speaker 2: been a couple of weeks since they officially said, like
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  Speaker 2: all right, we're starting the first round of interviews and
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  Speaker 2: now here we go. New GM.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got a pretty decent resume. He's been
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  Speaker 1: with Seattle for thirteen years and he's been in that
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  Speaker 1: assistant GM role for the last handful of years, I
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  Speaker 1: three years he's been in that role. Heavily involved in
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  Speaker 1: helping their GM, John Schneider, with a lot of scouting work.
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  Speaker 1: So he's done some good stuff and there's a reputation
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  Speaker 1: that precedes him, I guess. And you don't just win
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl by accident, right, and the front office
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  Speaker 1: has a lot to do with that. So even though
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't the head GM, he was still very much
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  Speaker 1: involved in things like bringing Sam Darnold to Seattle, which
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  Speaker 1: was a key component the.
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  Speaker 2: Vikings should actually try to trade for Sam Darnold. I
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  Speaker 2: think he might do really well in the team.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, wouldn't that add just another interesting arm to the
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  Speaker 1: octopus that already is the quarterback controversy? But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I like the higher Like you said, neither of us
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  Speaker 1: are going to pretend like we know too much about him.
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  Speaker 1: But given where he's coming from and the success that
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  Speaker 1: they've had in Seattle, his long term tenure there, I
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  Speaker 1: think there's good reason to be excited in Minnesota. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, So the things I've heard about him is that
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  Speaker 2: he has truly been a right hand man to John
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  Speaker 2: Schnyder in Seattle. Not to say like, oh, he's been
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  Speaker 2: the secret real GM this whole time. That would be
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  Speaker 2: absurd to say. John Schneider is one of the best
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  Speaker 2: GMS in all of sports, and it's evident by how
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  Speaker 2: well set up the Seahawks are now and obviously they
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  Speaker 2: were last year to win the Super Bowl. But Nolan Teasley,
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  Speaker 2: new Vikings GM has apparently been right next to Schneider
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  Speaker 2: the last few years, you know, in every step of
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  Speaker 2: the way, assisting and helping however much he can. I
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  Speaker 2: guess he's really people have described him. I've heard it
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  Speaker 2: a lot now as Teasley has been described as a
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  Speaker 2: football guy. Which when the the Wolfs made the decision
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  Speaker 2: to fire Quasi, one thing I was thinking, and I
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  Speaker 2: heard a lot among you know people who talk about
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings is, well, now they they just failed the
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  Speaker 2: experiment with the moneyball guy, you know, the the true
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  Speaker 2: you know, analytical guy that just looks at numbers and
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  Speaker 2: makes you know, roster decisions that way. Now you got
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  Speaker 2: to think they're gonna swing the other way and go
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: for a football guy, a guy that is really in
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  Speaker 2: the in the weeds with football and doesn't really care
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  Speaker 2: too much about analytics. And sounds like they got a
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  Speaker 2: football guy. But I've also heard Teasley is very much
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  Speaker 2: an analytical guy too. He but in the in the
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  Speaker 2: way of scouting and he looks at numbers, but mostly
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  Speaker 2: like communicating and scouting and looking at the big picture
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  Speaker 2: while diving in at these individual players and roster decisions,
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  Speaker 2: but not just hey, let me pull up PFF and oh,
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  Speaker 2: this guy has the best grade, let's raft him. Not
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  Speaker 2: to say that that's what Quaysy was doing, but that's
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  Speaker 2: the running joke. Now they're like, oh, Cauaycy just looked
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  Speaker 2: at the numbers and made decisions that way. So it
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  Speaker 2: is nice to get a guy that seems like he's
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  Speaker 2: not going to just do that. It's a lot more
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  Speaker 2: about football.
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  Speaker 1: And he played football. I'm just learning this as I'm
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  Speaker 1: googling him. He played running back at Central Washington University
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  Speaker 1: in college, so he's got experience there. Not pro experience,
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  Speaker 1: but he played obviously high school and college ball and
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  Speaker 1: understands the game. And so that is something that I
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  Speaker 1: think is important to have in the front office as
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  Speaker 1: somebody who knows the game and isn't just crunching the
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  Speaker 1: numbers and trying to find the best value. Of course
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  Speaker 1: you want to do that too, but it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of experience, more than I thought.
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  Speaker 1: He's a two time Super Bowl winning staff member with
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks. He was on staff when they won whatever
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl that was way way back twenty thirteen when
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  Speaker 1: they beat the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: That it would have been one of his first fourteen there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, he was a scout for the team
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  Speaker 1: at that point, so he's seen a lot of development,
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  Speaker 1: he's seen a lot of up and down, He's seen
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  Speaker 1: some coaching change and worked with that. Probably he's probably
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  Speaker 1: been in a lot of those meetings. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: like the experience, I like the hire. I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: learn more about him, and I don't know, hopefully Viking's
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  Speaker 1: Nation is kind to him and not super critical of
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  Speaker 1: him because Quacy he had a honeymoon phase of maybe
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  Speaker 1: like a year and then everybody just kind of dumped
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: on him for the rest of his career. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't I didn't feel like that was fair.
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  Speaker 1: And we've sat here before and said, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: a tough job. We can sit here in armchair quarterback
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  Speaker 1: all night long. In fact, that's what we do every
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  Speaker 1: week when we sit here and drink beer and talk.
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  Speaker 1: But obviously we're not getting paid to do it.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly. I was trying to look it up,
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  Speaker 2: but I can't find the exact tweet. But a Dustin
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  Speaker 2: Baker tweeted sometime in the last weeks or months, basically
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  Speaker 2: saying like, just remember we're just a few weeks away
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  Speaker 2: from the Vikings hiring a new GM and then all
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  Speaker 2: of us liking the guy based off of what his
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  Speaker 2: boss did, you know, Like, so the Seahawks, well we
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  Speaker 2: like this guy because the Seahawks they did signe Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald and they've been drafting well and shoot, they just
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  Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl. So I mean, the truth is,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: unless you're you know, really in the lead and you
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of knowledge of all of these guys
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  Speaker 2: and work with a lot of people, there's there's not
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  Speaker 2: much the fan at you and my level I really
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  Speaker 2: should know about these front office guys from other teams.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be different if you know, it was one of
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: those situations where like it was a un you know,
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  Speaker 2: a widely known secret that John Snyder actually didn't do anything,
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: but the whole league knows that Nolan Teasley was the
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  Speaker 2: one doing everything. That's obviously not the case. So all
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  Speaker 2: we can know is stats and look up what we
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  Speaker 2: hear about him in the days after he's hired. But
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  Speaker 2: one thing I do really like is, and this is
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  Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna sound a lot like a shot against
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: the Bears, and it kind of is, but it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's not meaning to just crap on the Bears. But
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  Speaker 2: like a few years ago when the Bears and Vikings
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  Speaker 2: were both looking for new gms, and the Vikings ultimately
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  Speaker 2: hired Kasi Dalfamensa, the Bears hired Ryan Pole, who was
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  Speaker 2: a really high up person with the Chiefs organization. And
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: of course, for the last what decade or so, the
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs have been consistently at the top of the food
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  Speaker 2: chain in the NFL, and so it seemed like, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're getting a new GM who has been a big
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  Speaker 2: name with the Chiefs, So the Bears are just going
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  Speaker 2: to turn into the next Chiefs. Well, I don't love
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  Speaker 2: that because while the Chiefs have, you know, they have
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  Speaker 2: been consistently at the top. You can point to two
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  Speaker 2: things for that. They have Andy Reid, who is a
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  Speaker 2: heck of a head coach, obviously one of the greatest
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: head coaches you know the NFL has really ever seen,
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  Speaker 2: if you think about it, and I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: too crazy to say. And they've had Pat Mahomes in
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  Speaker 2: his prime, and I mean Pat Mahomes, whether you like
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  Speaker 2: him personally or not, on the field one of the
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  Speaker 2: greatest quarterbacks to really ever play in our lifetime. And
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: again I don't think that's too crazy to say, but
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  Speaker 2: those two things being in tandem alone can make every
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  Speaker 2: other problem and an organization seems so much smaller. If
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback can make the sideways, backwards, closed eyes pass
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  Speaker 2: for a touchdown, it really sweeps over the fact that
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: maybe the left tackle whift on the play. You know,
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  Speaker 2: So if the quarterback and coach are doing their job,
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: maybe the front office folks, their job isn't as hard
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  Speaker 2: as it could be. So all that to say, I
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  Speaker 2: like the idea of signing a guy from the most
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: recent Super Bowl winning team when the Seahawks weren't considered.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like you can say, oh, they won the
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl because of one player. The Seahawks were a
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  Speaker 2: really well rounded team in twenty twenty five, and they
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: will be for a while. They'll be a contender for
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  Speaker 2: a while now because every part of their team is like, dang,
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  Speaker 2: that's really good. Dang, that's really good. On top of
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: you know, they even have their starting running back out
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  Speaker 2: and they still want the Super Bowl. So when you
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  Speaker 2: have such a well rounded team without obvious superstars at
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  Speaker 2: a couple positions that really make it over the top.
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  Speaker 2: Then you can look at the front offense, front office
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  Speaker 2: and say like, oh, they draft well, oh they planned well,
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  Speaker 2: Oh they signed guys, well, oh they traded for Rashid
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Rice is not ra shieed in the middle of the season,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: so they make in season moves. Well, those are the
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  Speaker 2: kind of guys I want to come into my favorite
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  Speaker 2: organization to be like, oh, well, he has the experience
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  Speaker 2: to mold an entire team, not just get really lucky
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  Speaker 2: with one quarterback or one coach.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I like this quote of his. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: this in a few places now. He said, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: arrogant enough to tell you that I'm better at watching
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  Speaker 1: football than you are, but I do have a process,
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  Speaker 1: And I think my superpower is the ability to take
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: in information from a lot of different people that have
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: different areas of expertise, then implement that and build a
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  Speaker 1: process off of that that ultimately leads me to try
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  Speaker 1: and make sound decisions in a short period of time.
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  Speaker 1: And so that tells you that he's a process guy too,
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  Speaker 1: mm hmm, Like, not only is he a football guy,
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  Speaker 1: but he's a processed guy. And he's not gonna come
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  Speaker 1: in and he's not gonna have this, like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: here's the magic elixir to get us to a super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: Like Nope, it's gonna take time. We're gonna draft, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna make wise trades, we're gonna restructure contracts where
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: we need to, and we're gonna build this roster into
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  Speaker 1: a contending roster hopefully, is what I'm deducing from that quote.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I also get out of that quote. You know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: he is saying I do watch football, and I do
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: understand what I see when I look at the field.
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  Speaker 2: So like, again, we are fans in your basement. You know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: we're not, you know, highly compensated football talkers. We don't
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  Speaker 2: have a ton of experience playing the game. But I
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: do think you and I both when we watch a
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: football game, we see things and understand things just a
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: little bit more than my wife does. She's not even
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: she's a very casual fan. She just watches it because
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I watch it. But like, there's a lot of people
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: who like a team, but they don't really know the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: difference between a zone defense and a man defense. And
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: that's just barely scratching the surface of it. You know
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  Speaker 2: they don't. They would never think like, oh, that guard
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  Speaker 2: is polling. What do you mean? What's a polling guard?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: You know, like just little stuff like that, And you
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and I we know a taintsy bit more about it
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: than the average fan. Nolan Teasley, who watches football, I
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: would expect to be able to go into a defensive
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: meeting with Brian Flores, sit in the back, and fully
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: follow along with everything he's saying. I do not know
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Quasy duff a person defa mensa personally. I've never met him,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: never will. I think he's seems like a good dude.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I kind of got the sense he was okay enough
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: with understanding. Brian Flores is a good coach and he
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: hits these measurables. And Dallas Turner is a good player
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: and he hits these measurables. And I can walk into
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the back of a room and not understand what Brian
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Flores is saying at all, but understand that that process
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: is gonna, you know, equal good things on the field
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: may be way wrong. Quasi daffamensa maybe like insanely knowledgeable
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: about the ins and outs of what happens on the field,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But I do know Nolan Teasley. You know, he seems
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that he does know what happens on the field and
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: what equals a good football player. So that breathes a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: cyber relief.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And I don't think he's going to have to do
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: what like Carly Ursay has been doing with the Colts.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: She's been like on the sidelines with an earpiece in
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: listening to the plays being called and almost kind of
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: like would I wouldn't go to the extreme of micromanaging,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: but she's hovering over the coaching staff and everybody else.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: She's an owner, She's not the GM I don't think.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a different person that does that.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: You know, and I'll look that up really quick.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: But she's definitely, especially since her dad passed away, she's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: definitely taken a way more hands on approach and one
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that we've never seen a woman take in the NFL,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and I think that's why people have been so interested
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Ballard is the gm O the Cults, and
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I've definitely heard that name before.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: But she's been quoted saying stuff like, you know, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: gotta hire and fire people, and I need to do
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: so knowledgeably. I can't just like you know, fire people
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: for no good reason, you know, or lost the game,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you're fired, right, Like, she's got to be able to
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: point to specific things. And that's why she's, you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: on the sidelines. She's probably at their OTAs she's at
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: training camp. She's out there on the field and she
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: stands out like a sore thumb.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's bold enough not to tangent off too much,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: but I think it's bold enough that when you're watching
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: a new football game in October, to see your favorite
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: team's owner arms folded on the sideline with a headset on.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Just to be able to see that on TV, that's
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: pretty bold, and that sends a message that maybe is intentional,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: maybe is unintentional, but that's also what the viewers see
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: on TV. We don't know what's said in the meetings.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: We don't know other than what they say directly. Other
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: because she did say something like, yeah, I'm charged with
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: hiring and firing and leading this organization, and how am
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I going to do that if I don't know have
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: an understanding? Yeah, So I think there's a level of
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: so goodness to that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I only bring that up to say, like, I don't
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: think Nolan Teasley's gonna go to that extreme, Like I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: think he can see enough from his box on game
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: day or from watching film, you know, during the week
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: or whatever. He doesn't, and maybe he will. I don't know.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Quacy was rarely down on the sidelines during games. He pregame, Yeah,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. It'll be interesting to see how
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that all plays out. One other aspect that we haven't
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: really talked about yet with this, and then we can
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: move on. Rob Razinski is staying with the organization, even
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: though he filled in in that interim role and he
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: did interview.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: For the sounds like he wanted the job head GM job.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: He didn't get it, obviously, staying with the organization, But
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: there could be some staffing changes too, because sometimes when
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a GM comes in, kind of like a coach, they
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: want to bring some people with them, people that they're
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: familiar with, people that they know can continue to build
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: culture and just do things to their standard. So I
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if there are some staffing changes. Not
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Rob Razinski. I think he's probably safe, and I think
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: he's been with the organization long enough, But I wouldn't
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: be surprised if there's some personnel changes in the front office,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: minor things that wouldn't be like you probably wouldn't even
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: get pinged for those on like a Twitter or something
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like that. It would just be like, Oh, I didn't
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: realize that so and so is now the assistant to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the GM for scouting. Yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we would probably hear about like high level
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: guys like oh, this guy's been with the Vikings for
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: eight years now and he's out, or we would hear
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: if there was like wholesale Hey, seventy percent of the
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: scouting department is being turned over, Like I haven't heard
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: anything about that, but like that's something that would come
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: our way. If it's one guy lower level in the
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: scouting department that gets swapped out or leaves or you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: decides to move on or whatever, Like, we probably wouldn't
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: hear about that unless there was like some scandals surrounding it,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: which again I don't I don't really expect. It is interesting.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I think most people, myself included, expected rob Berzinski to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: either get the GM job or get promoted to like
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a role that Matt Ryan is serving with Atlanta basically
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: like the final go between between the owners and everybody
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: else in the front office, like executive president or something
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: like that. But no, it seems like Brazinski is going
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: back to his executive vice president managing the cap and
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: whatever else he was doing there and not getting a promotion.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: He may be getting a pay raise for this service
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that he's done, you know, this off season so far,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: but so yeah, it seems like he's going back into
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: his role. You pulled up a fun graphic that I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: like too.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Jason Harmon tweeted this and he said, the Vikings
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: have already tried a triangle of authority leadership model, but
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: may I introduce you to the Pentagon of Power and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: we can maybe throw this up on the screen. It's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: pretty funny. But you've got the Wolfs at the top
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of the pentagon, and you've got Nolan Teasley and Rob
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Brazinski down one side, and you've got Koc and Brian
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Flores down the other side to complete the Pentagon of Power.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: That's pretty fun.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: It will be interesting and maybe we'll never know exactly
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: how things go moving forward, but I feel like this
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: offseason has been uh run by three decision makers, Koc,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Rob Razinski, and it sounds like Flores has been a
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: part of those decision making things as well. So I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: wonder if things because of their experience in the last
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: he just pulled up another graphic that puts that same pentagon.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: But then JJ McCarthy on top of everything.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: With somebody somebody asked, where is nine, So we'll put
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: we'll put that one in there too.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It's funny. But yeah, I wonder if koc you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: everybody that has been a part of the current pre
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Nolan Teasley decision making process the last few months for
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the Vikings, if that experience will kind of change how
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: things go now that there is a GM. Maybe who
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: knows an interview processes, they may have said, like, hey,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: recently we found that we like when the coach has
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: authority over this random thing. What are your thoughts on
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: that continuing even though a GM normally does that. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: can't really think of an example, but I don't know.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe it could turn into another version of that infamous
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: triangle of authority that the Vikings had and what like
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: five o six, like with Brad Childress. I don't even
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: know who the guy who was the GM was.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Well, did Red Macombs still on the team at that time?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: That was right when the Wils first.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Bought the Wilfs. Okay, the Wills bought it. I don't
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: would that have been Spielman then, I think.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: He was kind of a part of that as well,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, oh no, So it was Rick Spielman, Rob Brazinski,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and then Brad Childress, and then apparently later a little
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: bit of Leslie Frasier too. That was the infamous triangle
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: of authority. Spielman was general manager, player personnel stuff, Prasinski,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: executive vice president, kap guru, and contract negotiator, which is
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting. And then Brad Childress, who evaluated the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: team and apparently I think at the time, which was
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the most controversial thing. Childress for at least a while,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: had full authority final authority on player like cuts like
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: who made the final fifty three, which I don't know.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I've never worked in a front office or with a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: football team enough to know, like, hey, maybe it isn't
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a good thing if the coach makes the final the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: head coach makes the final say on the fifty three,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: or maybe it is a good thing. I don't know.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like the more you can get with any
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: big decision making organization, it is nice to have one
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: person be the final Hey, this is on me. It's
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: my decision, but also it's my consequences, you know, if
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: it doesn't work well. But it's also always good to
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: have many, many minds in the room to contribute to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: decision making focused on the one guy, one person that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: making the final decision. So we'll see how it all
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: plays out. We'll see how much knowledge and information we
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the fans get out of how they operate and how
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: things work. Because you know, some reporter is gonna ask, like, okay,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: who has the final fifty three decision making and the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: answer from Teasley is probably going to be the the
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: company line of like, well, we're still working all that
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: stuff out and we will. We'll do the best to
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: make the vikings the best we can. You know, it'll
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: be something like that. What would make the news if
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: it is if in Teasley's opening press conference, which should
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: be in the next few days, if somebody asks that,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: because they will, and if his answer was like I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: have full authority, Like if it's just a nope, it's me,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: that'll be that'll be newsworthy.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's interesting too, because he's a younger GM.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I think he's like in his early forties and forty two.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I think he and Koc are the same age.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that'll create some interesting dynamics too in the workplace.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: All that to say, new GM hopefully better drafts.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Hopefully hopefully.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I would say, on par with or better trades and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: cap management and that sort of thing, and hopefully better
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: on the field product.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I will say too, to kind of put my final
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: thoughts on Quac out there, it didn't seem like Quacy
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: was afraid to make moves like we I feel like
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Dustin Baker would always say, like, Heyquacy always trades his
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: second round pick for somebody at the deadline. I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: we got TJ. Hockinson in the middle of the season,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: like we would see moves in the middle of the season.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: It's just did they work out or not? And you
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: could argue some of them did, some of them didn't.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: But like, one thing you can't say about Quacy is
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: that he was afraid to make moves or do anything.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: It's just how well did it work out? So yeah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: sometimes making moves in the middle of the season isn't
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: a good idea, but sometimes you have to.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: He would kind of wheel and deal and sometimes it
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: worked and sometimes it didn't.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So and sometimes they had to like I'm thinking the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: pastor not they had to make that move, And for
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: like three and a half quarters, man, it was so
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: fun and excited.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It looked like a good move, and then it wasn't.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I was I just went golfing with somebody yesterday, actually
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: friend of the show, Forrest's friend and co worker who
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: is a Vikings fan, and we mentioned the pastornat and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: just in talking he was like, yeah, for like three
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: games that was really fun. I was like, dude, for
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: like three quarters, so it's really fun. That was funny.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: To look back on it, and you.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Take me, what a fun season? All right, well we
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: can maybe uh, we can put a bow on that
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: conversation for now. I'm sure we'll have more to talk about,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: especially when things are finalized. He's officially a Viking. I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: think you're right you mentioned earlier. I don't think the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: team has officially announced him.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't seen that tweet at.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Least, and yeah, it's not even on the website yet,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: so I think probably this week he'll be announced, he'll
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: have his press conference, the whole thing. But yeah, let's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: move on to OTAs and this quarterback controversy, because we
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: still have a quarterback controversy in Minnesota. And I'm just
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, I'm tired.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Of this, no matter what.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of this Grandpa.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: This quarterback talker is not going to go away until
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: one of these guys plays multiple games and plays them
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: extremely well for multiple games in a row. This talker
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: is not going away. And even then it'll be yeah,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: well wait till he gets hurt. And that could be
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: about either of these guys. But we're just we're not
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: gonna stop talking about the quarterback situation. And you know what,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the fun part about football. It's the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: most important position in sports, and we got to get
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: it right.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm afraid that we're kind of in the loop
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that the Bears were in now, Like I feel like
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: we're we're in that, Like, Okay, the quarterback doesn't work out,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: so then the coach gets fired, and then the coach
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: didn't work out, so then the GM gets fired, and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: then that didn't work out, and then we move on
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: from the quarterback that was drafted, and then we just
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: we just keep going in this loop. Well, now we've
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: got the quarterback and the coach that are staying. But
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: we've got a new GM, so you wonder who's gonna
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: go and is it gonna be the quarterback? You know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And obviously Nolan Teasley doesn't give two rips about his
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: reputation and moving on from JJ McCarthy if that's what
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: needs to be done. Like, he's not the one who
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: drafted him. He's not the one that moved all the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: way up to the tenth overall pick to get him.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: He's not the one that has put up with the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: injuries and all of that for the last two years. Like,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you know, he's just he's just, you know, all right,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: let me figure this out and let's let's do his
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: best for the team.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You know, that is kind of the refreshing part of
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a new GM, where it's like, hey, he's if JJ
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: McCarthy doesn't work out, now, it's not Nolan Teasley. You know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: he's not losing his job because of that.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But but also I would say, because I read another
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: thing today about Kyler Murray, Like, let's say, because I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: think a lot of signs are pointing to this being
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the reality. Right now, Kyler Murray's probably the favorite to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: win the starting job at this point. I don't know.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Did you see who was it? Steve Smith Senior on
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: some talk show this week was like, anybody with a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: pulse is better than JJ.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Muck, which is wild. I mean, JJ McCarthy is throwing
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a touchdown past in the NFL, he's better than ninety
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: nine percent of anybody that could ever walk the earth,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Like, I'll.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Give him, I'll give him some credit for sure, but
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: what we've seen so far has been very rough, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: if he's going to be a legitimate long term starter
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, he's going to have to get some
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: stuff figured out. But I think it's fair to say
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: right now that Kyler Murray is the proverbial Week one starter.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: But the tweet that I saw today basically said, like
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: all Kyler Murray needs to do is have one standout
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: season and he's basically going to get the Sam Darnold package,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Like he could completely revive his career. He could move on.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: He's only on a one year contract with Minnesota, so
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: he could move on and just explode somewhere else and
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: we could see the exact same thing happen that we've
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: seen happen forever with Vikings teams. These quarterbacks come to us,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: they're okay, and then they leave and they do amazing
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: things like when freaking super Bowls.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, we've seen Sam Darnold do that. I
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: can't really think off the top of my head who
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: else has done that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl with the Buccaneers. Yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: but that I feel like, didn't rich Gannon win a
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the Raiders?
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Was that pre or post Vikings post?
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, But I mean.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: You're talking two examples from thirty years ago. True, but
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I mean twenty thirty years ago. So to say it
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: always happens like that, it's just it's a jaded Vikings
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: fan in you, which I am also a jaded Vikings fan.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: But all of that to say, I'm just I'm worried
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that we're stuck in this trap and I'm hoping Teasley
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: can get us out of that trap. That's that's kind
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of the optimism in me. But yeah, we just we
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: continue to find ourselves in this weird quarterback battle. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: there are three proverbial starter's potential starters.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: There's two. If you're gonna say Carson Wentz is a
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: potential starter. That's Carson Wentz wins the.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Job he started last year.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: He started out of injury, like he would not have
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: started when he did if not for JJ McCarthy being injured.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I think you could also argue that he played better
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: than played.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but also I think there's a chance JJ was
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: injured most of the year last year. He definitely had
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: a hand injury that really hindered him. Don't forget JJ
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: McCarthy the last five games of the season. Yeah, he
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: missed one of them, the Lions game on Christmas. Outside
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: of that, well one and a half because he took
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: himself out in the second half of the Packer game.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: But outside of those two things, he played well in
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the last five games of the season. And you can't
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: say that about Kyler Murray because he only played five
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: games last season. If Kyler Murray wins this job, I
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: will be excited and I will be rooting for him.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to root for whoever plays for
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: my team to fail because that's super upsetting and I'm
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: not that jaded. I want the Vikings to win. I
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: don't care who's playing, but I really think it shouldn't
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: be this automatic. Kyler, right now is the starter and
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: there's no question about it. Like, laugh at anybody else
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: who has any other opinion, anybody with a pulse that's
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: saying you or I, it could be a better starter
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings than JJ McCarthy, which is wild. That's
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: saying Steve Smith junior, senior, whatever he is, that's saying
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: he would be a better starter at quarterback for the Vikings,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: which is wild. It gets clicks and for the people
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: that like Steve Smith, that's fun. But like, that guy's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: a moron.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: He's definitely got a loud mouth. For sure. I like him.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's funny, but I'm definitely on the.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Guy who Steve Smith cheated his wife on it probably
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't like him very much.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Well, we won't get into personal matters as a football player.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I like him, He's a funny guy, but I'm definitely
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: on the opposite side of this argument. Yeah you are
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I'm JJ for life. Right now, let's go, and I.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Am move on from him. Like and again, that's kind
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: of why I brought up the Nolan Teasley stuff, Like
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: he doesn't care and so he could walk in and
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: just cut him tomorrow as soon as the job is
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: officially his and he's under contract with the Viking.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: That would be insane, That would be crazy.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that's gonna happen. No, but I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: mean he could, and you mentioned it earlier. Somebody's gonna
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: have to kind of claim ownership over the fifty three man.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Who is it? Is it? Teasley? Is it? Koc? Is it?
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: This triangle of power? Is it? This pentagon of power? Like?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Whose is it? And I don't know if I were
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: involved in that, If I were a part of that
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: pentagon of power, I'd probably be advocating for Hey, let's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: move on. He hasn't shown us much. He's young, he's cheap,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: we haven't paid a lot of money. Yeah, we gave
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: up a lot in draft picks and stuff. But let's
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: move We need to, We need to turn a new
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: page and let's see what we can get for him
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and bring in somebody else.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to move on from a guy who's played ten
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: games and looked decent and at least half of them,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: that's wild after drafting and the tenth overall pick. All right,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: all right, we will argue about this. I love that
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: we're actually we don't agree about that. So because so
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: many times we're like, you know, Evan, you're right. No, yeah, Austin,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you're right, Like, no, we will fight about this, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to these arguments.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: So let's let's take this a step further. Let's let's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: go deeper into this argument. All right, So in your opinion,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you've seen enough from JJ McCarthy to keep him, keep
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: him absolutely.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Now. I'm not saying right now, May thirty first, he's
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the unquestioned QB one. I'm saying it's insane to say
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: either of them are without a doubt QB one if
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: you have to throw out a depth chart right now,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: and Kyler he's at the top of your depth chart
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: right now. Sure, that's fine. But just the exercise we
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: did last week where we're like, how many unquestioned starters
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: are there right now on the roster, because there's some
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson is wide receiver, won no questions asked quarterback,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't have an unquestioned starter right now. So that's all
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I'm saying, you don't give up on
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a guy with so much potential after he's most recently
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: shown you a lot of good just because oh, Quacy
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: bad and.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I would say he's shown equally amounts of bad
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: as he's shown good. I think right now with J. J. McCarthy,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: it's a very fifty to fifty game because you could
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: point to like, oh, well, the Bears game in the
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: early part of the season, whatever that was week one
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: or week two last year, like, man, he looked good,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and he had a couple other good games.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm even looking at the final game of the year,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the Packer game. Yes, he took himself out and that sucks.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: That doesn't look good. But it sounds like he had
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: a broken hand when he took himself out, So that's true.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: But I think that also maybe tells you that he
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't being completely honest with.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Well as a player. There's only so much like if
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: a player ever came out and said I have this injury,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: coaches are gonna rip them apart, Like why would you
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: tell the media that?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Like that's with the media, I'm saying, with his coaches
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: and with the training staff and stuff like, you got
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: to be honest with your body and yourself as a
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: player in a league where you're getting especially in the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: quarterback position, you're getting ripped to shreds on a daily basis,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: so like you have to you have to communicate that.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't know what those conversations
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: were like with Koc. I don't know what those conversations
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: were like with Quac. But I don't know. I can
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: definitely tell you that if JJ McCarthy's gonna stay on
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the Vikings, he's got a ton of growing up to do,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: a ton of maturing to do. And I think bringing
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: in Kyler Murray has maybe exposed more of his flaws
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: than it's exposed his strength.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I'm totally I really like that they brought a starter
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: level player in to compete. I just the people that
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: are saying it's not a competition, and there's no questions.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: That's where it's like, they're not They're not handing a
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: guy a job when he's never even touched the field
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: with a Vikings helmet on. Yet they're gonna have a competition.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking at JJ's stats for the last from
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: week to what twelve on and it doesn't scream to
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: me a guy that's cut him, now, you know what
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I mean? Like, this is a guy who, I mean
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: played all right in what was essentially his rookie year,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: and especially when he might have been injured. So all
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I'm saying is too tattoo in Kyler Murray is a
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: starter right now is shortsighted, and it may happen. He
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: might win the job. He's probably the better quarterback. I'm
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: okay with those things being true. But I also like
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. He's shown a little bit. I've seen him
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: make some throws that are like wow, okay. The Packer
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: game alone, he had two or three throws where it's like,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: all right, there we go, JJ, and we were in
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the building. Yeah, and so that's enough. It wasn't like
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: it was a Max Bros. Mur or forty nine yard
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: a fair on Christmas Day against the Lions. Like JJ
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: actually has shown that he is worth being on a
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: roster and getting a start if needed, and he could
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: be QB one. But I think May and June is
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: way too early to say absolutely not before any competition
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: has happened.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I think we would get more clicks and more views
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: and more likes if you were just team JJ and
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I was team Kyler all the way, Like that would
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: be more fun. Oh boy, he just left the desk, folks,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: what is he doing? I don't know what he's up to.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Did you make a shirt? He brought your jersey? Team JJ,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Well that means I gotta buy a Kyler jersey now.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Dang it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Hey, you can get a ton of Arizona Cardinals Kyler
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: jerseys and I think you can get one for less
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: than ten bucks on eBay. They're everywhere because they cut him.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I'm team JJ. Let's go, and I'm okay with being wrong,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: but for now, let's let's be team JJ. This has
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: just been in my bag since since last three weeks
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: ago when I wore it, so you know what I'll
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: wear this. This is my school hop uniform.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Now this is like, uh, what was that stupid movie
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: about vampires that came out when we were in college?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I think? And you were either Team.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Edward or Twilight Series.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like that, but for middle aged men
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: that are football fans.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: It's it's as lame as the Twilight Series was too.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: So come at me. But yeah, Team JJ, let's go.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I'll get it to tech. I'll be fair.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily team Kyler. You you gave some really
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: company line Team friendly if Jade or if Kyler's the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: week one starter.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I'll be happy with you, I really will. I'm not
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: going to sit here, And.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I think both of us come from it from that perspective.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: We want the best product on the field, and we
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: want the best players to play, and we want the
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Vikings to win games is ultimately what we want. We
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: want them to win a dang super Bowl for Pete's sake.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Come on, We've been waiting our entire lives for that,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: even just to get there. They haven't done that since
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the seventies. So I think both of us are on
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the same page there. Yeah, absolutely, But I'm definitely on
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the opposite side. And maybe maybe I will have to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: get a Kyler jersey because I think it's like ninety
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: nine to one odds. I don't know anything about bedding odds.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: You're saying it basically done deal, he is the starter.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I don't as of right now. That's way too that's
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: crazy for me right now.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: So what number is JJ McCarthy worn nine? What number
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: does Kyler wear? One? One? Ninety nine?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: So JJ's nine nine to one.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: It's ninety nine to one odds. Kyler is gonna do it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Ev if you have an extra one hundred and fifty
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: dollars laying around. You can get yourself a Vikings Kyler
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: jer Vikings Kyler Jersey ran new.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait on that. I'm not on that. I'm
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: not that much on the bandwagon. If it were one
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: hundred to one odds, maybe.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe you could get a Jalen Naylor.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I would wear an eighty three Naylor jersey.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Well, he wore number one. We can figure it out
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: someone someone out there. Maybe someone out there can give
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: you Kyler Murder jersey. But I did want to touch
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: on these quotes that both quarterbacks gave after a a
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: TA practice a handful of days ago. Maybe's start with
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the Kyler Murray quote. He said, somebody asked him, Uh,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: how's your relationship with j Jjben going. He said, it's
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: been great. Obviously he's a younger guy, so anyway it
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: can help him. I feel like I played seven years
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: going on eight. I'm considered a veteran, even though I
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: don't see see myself as that giving him any knowledge
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: he needs. Basically company line, he said, this stuff like
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: that you would expect to hear from a guy who's
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: been in the league pushing a decade, you know, seven
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: eight years, and so he just talked to reporters and
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: gave company lines and said, oh, yeah, everything's good here
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, just working in He answered a few
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: questions about like what it's like getting into the offense
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: and learning the new offense and just saying, yeah, learn
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: it every day again company line. He's talked to media
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: a ton and it showed. So that's that's all you
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: can really expect. But JJ said some some other things.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you watch JJ as he says these things,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you can just see like part of me, part of
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: me appreciates this because I think he's this is the
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: competitor in him. It's the like I'm gonna I'm gonna battle.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there and do whatever I can.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: But also it's kind of like, I don't know, it's
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the it's the little kid on the playground who's been
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: pushed around and he's sick and tired of it and
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: he's just gonna stand up to the bully whatever. But
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: JJ said, it's just like two guys in a classroom.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: He sits on one side and I sit on the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: other side. It's the coach's responsibility to teach us and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: coach us, And it's a really vague statement, and I
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: think what he's saying maybe there, if I had to
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: unpack that is like we don't interact a whole lot
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: when we're like in a film room or whatever, when
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: we're in the quarterback room and it's just us and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: KOC and Josh McCown and whoever else is in the room,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Like he's it's over there. I sit over here. We
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: listen to whatever they're telling us. We don't intermingle, you know.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: And it's way early, right, Like it's they've they've been
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: working together for all of like a month at this point.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: They've been on the same team for you know, all
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: of a month or so, so who knows if how
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: much they've actually practiced in the same area together, if
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just been the OTAs last week. So I mean,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they would have had any reason
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: to get together and throw together or anything like that.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe they have. I haven't heard about it, but yeah,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: it's still really early, and I think Kyler Murray came here.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I did see an article it might have been Viking's territory,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: but it might not have been. And maybe I could
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: look and try to find the link so we can
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: we can put it in the description here. But the
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: article basically stated the different mindsets of JJ McCarthy and
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray right now, and honestly, the way I'm remembering it,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: it could be a series of tweets and not even
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: an article, But whoever said it basically said, like Kyler Murray,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: he's here to do a Sam Darnold thing, to come
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: here on the cheap from the Vikings. He's still getting
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: paid upwards of thirty plus forty plus million dollars this
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: year to play football, which good for him, absolutely, but
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: the Vikings are paying him one point three. He is here.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: This twenty twenty six for Kyler Murray is a chance
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: to reset, show he can still play at a high
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: level and then boom, get that next two hundred million
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: dollars or whatever contract. And whether that's with the Vikings,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: whether that's with whoever else after this season, that's his
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: goal is to show I'm still a starter, I'm still
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: one of the top. There's a reason the Cardinals drafted
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: me first overall a handful of years ago, and this
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: is why you should pay me fifty plus a year
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: for the next five or so years. JJ McCarthy's mindset
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: right now is I'm beating out Kyler Murray. I'm fighting
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings Kibie one job. So their goals for
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: right now are different. Not to say Kyler is definitely
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: going to win because he's his mindset is way higher
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: and way broader, whereas JJ's just fighting for his roster spot. No,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I think either of them could still win the job,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: but their outlooks for twenty six and beyond for themselves
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: look way different. And not that that's a bad thing,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: but I think that's kind of showing in the way
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: that they answered questions the other day to the media.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Kyler was very comfortable with the media, not that JJ
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: was uncomfortable, but Kyler was just company line. You know,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: it's just one of many press conferences he's given, you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: just answer the way that isn't going to be headline
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: news or anything. JJ McCarthy. His answers were, I'm in
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: a competition right now, and yeah, we're both guys in
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: a classroom and coaches job to teach us, and I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: just doing what I can to be the best I can.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: And somebody asked him, like, what do you think about
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: the Vikings signing Kyler, and he was like, well, it
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: was a decision the team felt they needed to make,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: and they made that decision. Like, Okay, it wasn't Yeah,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I love having him here. He's gonna teach me so much.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: It was team did this, and that's on the team.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: You know, He's trying to keep his competitive edge.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Think there's a little bit of like immaturity to that too.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I think I understand where he's coming from, and I
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: know that that he's competing for the job, but I
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think the NFL is as much political
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: as it is in some.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Ways. But I think, no matter what, the best guy's
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: gonna play because so many lives are on the line
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: on wins and losses that they can't really afford to
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: say like, well we should start Kyler, so we're gonna
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be Oh, Kyler's better, so he's starting, or
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: whatever else, you know.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: And I get it from from JJ's perspective too, that like, well,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I'm in a competition and I'm not gonna show any
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: signs of weakness. I'm just gonna go out there and
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: do my best and whatnot. But like, I don't know
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: he I think he's got to figure out how to
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: talk to the media and how because I think what
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: he's showing is he's just he's really hot and cold,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: because some days he is some days JJ is the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: company in line, like oh yeah, I just you know,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: everything for the team. It's all about the team. And
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: then other times it's oh, I've got this other persona
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: it's called nine and no this new guy. Who's that guy?
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I know? He sits on the other side of the room.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I don't even know him, you know, like we get
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: these weird kind of back and forth. It's almost like
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: he's bipolar. And I think he's got to grow into
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the role of being an NFL quarterback.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Sure, but I'd much rather I do not care what
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: people say in a I'm a sideline press conference. I
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: don't unless it's like about something that doesn't do with
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: football and they're like promoting their charity and it's like, oh,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: that's that's really cool. Like I do not care, But.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I would I would push back on that a little
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: bit because both you and I have said and we've
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: praised Justin Jefferson for every single thing that he said.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: He's never once wavered.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: You're right, I shouldn't say I do not care. It'd
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: be different if they were actually throwing hissy fits and
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: saying like I don't want to be here anymore, Like
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: i'd care about that. But if you're like, I'm just
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: working hard, like okay, good job, like I okay.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: But I think if you read between the lines, it's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: not just JJ saying I'm working hard. I think it's
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: like I think he's saying, I know I'm the underdog,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: and I think he's saying with maybe a little bit
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: of like a little bit of overconfidence, a little bit
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: of pride, he's saying, I'm going to win the job, I.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Mean a competition. He's answering questions in a way that
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: a twenty three year old kid would answer if he
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: has got his head down and he's trying to be
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: pissed off and win a competition. He's not saying things
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: like well, it's not about the money, it's about what
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: the money represents.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, why are you even talking to the
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: media at this point?
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: But let me just go back to the days when
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: it was like Randy Moss and straight Cash Holme. You know,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: stuff like that because those are the good old days.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, we'll get some more. We'll definitely
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: get some more quotes. They will both talk to the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: media some more before this whole competition is all said
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and done. And let's face it, we're talking about JJ
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: McCarthy and Kyler Murray. Whoever wins the QB one job
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: is going to get injured and miss time, so we're
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: gonna see him both start games this year. I think
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: both of them will start more than three games each
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: this year. That's my bold take because injury like it's
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: going to happen. So whoever's better or worse or who
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: should be you know, considered QB one or not, they're
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: both going to start, and they're both going to get
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: their chances to on the field in games that matter
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: show why they should be the starter.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: You know what we should do? This is a on
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: air productions. Go.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I love when you bring these up. Let's go.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: You know what we should do? We should we should
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: make some some parlay bets, so to speak, like what
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you just presented. Like you you said, I bet that
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: both quarterbacks will start more than three games this season.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Let's let's put that on our pick them all right,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and let's make that a purple punishment. Like postseason. Everything's done,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: the Vikings have finished playing their last game, hopefully in
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl. We we have a handful of these
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: these bets that we've made. I like it, in addition
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: to picking the games. I like it, and we put
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: those on the wheel.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Well the wheel or since there's something that we can
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: plan out a little bit longer, we can we can
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: have the punishment be basically even a whole episode or
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: at least a segment of the episode where we we
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: can plan it out. We've joked about doing like a
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: beer mile before if we know, you know, because purple punishments,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: we just have a list of stuff and we kind
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: of pre playing for everything, and we don't know what
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: we're doing until oh, crap, I guess I'm eating something
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: spicy in two seconds, you know, Like but if we know, like, ah, crap,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I lost this bet, so in five days, I got
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: to do the beer mile. Like, we can plan that
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: stuff out and then you know, film it a little
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: bit better. But they can they don't have to be
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: just those quick, quick, fun, little pokey punishments that we have,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: which I love for the purple punishments, but they can
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: really be like a superlative, like I don't know, we
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: can come up with a better name, but yeah, those
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: parlay punishments.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: There we go, Parlay punishments, Purple parlay punishment.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: We'll figure something out, but I think we should do that.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I think that'd be fun and it would add another
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: layer of excitement to our purple punishments. You brought in
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: a little tweet here from Alec Lewis, just with some
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: other Ota stuff. Obviously, the quarterback conversation has like kind
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: of dominated everything other than the Vikings hiring a new GM.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: But there is some other news. Christian Darrisaw was there,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: he was active, he was looking good. So that's exciting
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: news for Vikings fans that the left side of the
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: line is looking good and he's hopefully gonna play and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: play every game. The offensive line workouts looked much more
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: intense according to Alec Lewis, which I think is also
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: a good thing.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: We have a new offensive line coach too, so that
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: might be part of it.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also heard that Blake Brandell is pretty
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: much a given at center. I really don't think there's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: going to be much of a competition there.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: So well, that's one thing Alex said at the bottom
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: of the tweet, and he said Randell took first team
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: center reps.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: So mm hmm. Yeah, so that's looking like it's locked in.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: All the defensive starters were there except for Blake Cashman,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: which interesting, kind of interesting, and I wonder if that
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: also includes Harrison Smith.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: He's not a he's not on the team right now, I.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Know, but there's been rumors swirling that he's coming back.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would expect he's not. He wouldn't have
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: been at OTAs can you imagine we would have seen, yeah,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: pictures and tweets and people would have been blown up
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: about that. We have heard from people we trust, not
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: anything I would say per sources, but we have heard like, hey,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: sounds like Harry's coming back. And I asked that person, like,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: because I was told that before the news of Nolan
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Teasley came out. And I asked that person, like, hey,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: does the Teasley news change anything with Smith? And that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: person said no. So still at this point, I'm expecting
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: soon because those are the words we were told, was like,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: announcement could be soon and soon could be tomorrow, or
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: soon could be you know, this month, you know, but
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I would expect before July hits we will be celebrating
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: an official announcement of Harrison Smith coming back. But anyways,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: not to diverge from this.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Tweet, all the other defensive starters were there, and yeah,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: that's good news. And if Blake Casman isn't there, you know,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a huge deal. Like, I
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: don't think they're not required to show off.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. I think organized team activities are still
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: not mandatory at this point.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, if there's a handful of players not there,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. And you know, maybe he's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: just he's recovering from something or maybe he's.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like OTAs are still pretty generally voluntary.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: So that's why.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Here's here's good news for Vikings fans. Jordan Addison was
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: there and he looked really good, and it's good news
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: for multiple reasons. Number one, not only is he looking
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: good on the football field, but he's not falling asleep
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: drunk behind the wheel of the car at two in
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: the morning.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: It is still.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Many You're right, but that is good news that he's there,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: and I hope. Justin Jefferson just like handcuffs himself to
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: that kid and says, you're staying with me and you're
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: not going anywhere, and you know, we're gonna just stay
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: up late playing video games. Maybe Kyler can come over
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: and play Call of Dude.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: No, we don't want Kyler to play any Call of Dude.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Get his take away his PS five controller, all right. Like,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: if you if you want any hope of Kyler Murray
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: being good, we need him not to be playing video
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: games right now.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: That's how they bond. Okay, that's how That's how those
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: two receivers are going to bond with their future quarterback.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: One they're already bonded. They and JJ are already good there.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: But anyways, Jordan Adisen was there. He looked really good,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: and that's an encouraging sign too, Like he had a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: couple of splashy plays that I saw on social media.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: So exciting. Obviously, it's way, way way too early to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: tell anything. Oh and there's still a lot of moving parts.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: You know, your new GM hasn't even been officially introduced yet.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: You have no idea who the quarterback is going to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: be at this point, and it's may, like you said,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: tomorrow's June. So yeah, basically June.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: By the time we get this out at all, it'll
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: be June for sure. I'm looking for a tweet with
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: a video just to be able to credit whoever post it,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: but I can't. I'm not finding it too easily. Maybe
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: by the time we get this posted, I will. But
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: the tweet was basically like, man, Jordan Addison and jets
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: are just so different. And it was a quick, maybe
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: thirty second video of each like a handful of receivers
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: doing a quick, you know, out route in practice. And
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: it was just one receiver after the other doing this
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: route and they would run up probably ten yards or
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: so and then kind of stutter step, go out to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: the left and then catch the ball. And each receiver
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: is like, okay, fine, they're doing some practice. But then
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson were the last two to
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: do the drill, and they just they looked like robots
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: in a great way, like just they were the fastest
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: to get up to that ten yards, fastest to do
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: their awesome stutter step. They caught the ball quickly, little
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: stutter steps after they caught the ball on the sideline
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: and it's like, wow, in just one short video you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: can see guys be different and be better. And yeah,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: it was just a fun thing to see. And another
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: thing like, oh there is there is a separation difference,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: like even between Juwan Jennings doing it right before Jordan
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Addison does and then Jordan Addison, it's just so buttery
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: smooth and like, oh yeah, these guys are professional athletes
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: and they they can do things other people just can't,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and they can do things other NFL wide receivers just can't.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: So it's a small example. Hopefully I'll be able to
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: find that little video before we get things posted.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's tie a bow on things here.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: What do you think of this beer?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I liked it a lot. Man, This is really easy drinker.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: I mean even for me sometimes a double dry hops
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I pa. It can be a lot. It can be
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: like a you're not gonna throw down a bunch of
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: them because it's just a heavy flavor and you can
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: get that flavor fatigue. And with this like it's such
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: a balanced beer. I almost I don't believe it.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what maybe that's what the BB stands for, balance.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Beer, not not bremer brewing. That's probably that, but yeah,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: it's super good. I could also definitely understand if somebody
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: is not an I p A person, they definitely wouldn't
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: like this because this is an I p A. It's
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: an I p a's I p A. It's nice, it's hazy.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I think of this as a summer beer, nice citrusy
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: sun's going down on a nice hot summer day. You're
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: throwing a few of these back. It's refreshing, that nice,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: hazy I P I. I like it a lot. It's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: the first time I've had it, and it's definitely not
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: the last. Did you get it at our favorite.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Shout out to front of the show, Jim, he sold
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: it to me. Nice. Nice.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Do you have a good little conversation with him? Yeah,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: it's always a good time. I walk in, I see him, Man,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: how's it going. Yeah, he's a good dude. Yeah, good guy.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: And yeah he he hooks us up with the beer. Yeah,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: so good stuff.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? I gave a lot of my
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I like it, and I'm always down to try a
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: new brewery in Iowa, and this was a good one
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: to try. One that is kind of close to where
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: we went to college.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is cool.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I would love to get up there and visit this
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: place in person. I've never been there, Like I said,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's relatively new, so I've never been there.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the beer itself really good. It's very easy
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: to drink. It's a hoppy ipa, So if that's not
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: your thing, then you're not gonna like it. But I
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: like hoppy IPAs, and I don't know, I like this
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: one and it you know me, I like a beer
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: that doesn't really try to do too much, and this
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: one doesn't do too much. It doesn't it's not like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: got eighteen other flavors that it's trying to do. They
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: didn't throw a bunch of fruit or a bunch of
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: other stuff in it. It's just this is a hoppy ipa,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: absolutely good. And I like the double dry hopped. It's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: got a clean finish to it. It's just it goes
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: down easy. And yeah, like you said, hot summer night,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I could throw down a few of these and feel
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: really good about it.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, I really like it. I'm glad you
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: got it. Thank you for bringing it.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where can people find us.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: If you're looking for us if you think I'm crazy
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: for being team JJ or if you're with me, you
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: are crazy. Probably the easiest way to actually get a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: hold of us is Twitter at the skull Hop, but
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: we're also on every other social media Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. Yeah,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: pretty much all the ones that matter. We're out there.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: We do have an email address, and I think we
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: still have a couple of stickers, So if you send
• 1:07:53
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• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: for this episode, if you want, well read off your
• 1:08:00
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• 1:08:04
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• 1:08:06
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• 1:08:08
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• 1:08:13
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• 1:08:15
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• 1:08:19
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• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: be a jerk to you. So yeah. Other than that,
• 1:08:22
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• 1:08:25
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• 1:08:29
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• 1:08:35
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• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, really good beer. I thought we had some
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: really interesting conversation. Yea, even though we disagreed.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I'm taking notes. I'm gonna shove this all on your face.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: And JJ McCarthy wins a job and throws for four
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: thousand yards.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I can't wait five touch. I will eat whatever spicy
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: thing I have to if I'm wrong.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you heard, you heard it here, folks, He's gonna
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: eat scorpion pepper. Oh gosh, that would you definitely a
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: ghost pepper. We get that going. I would die eventually,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: it might slowly, slowly get you.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Well, all that to say, good talks, good beer. Maybe
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: best episode, Yeah maybe, slow
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Assass