Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and NBA, Wemby the MVP (?), Cody Williams scoring surge translate to next season (?) + more
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Peace out.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
- 0:05Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
- 0:09Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Come for the hoops Talk, stay for its list of
- 0:14Speaker 2: the day, the list today, here's Oh See with basketball
- 0:18Speaker 2: saban Gordy Chiaysa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I've been told that there's a wonderful view of.
- 0:38Speaker 3: The show Dog Rocky on the YouTube channel right now.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Hey, Bud, you're okay back there?
- 0:45Speaker 3: Chew on your bone, don't you on that? Cord Gordion Chiasa,
- 0:50Speaker 3: resident NBA guru joins us.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Now on the Sean O'Connell Show. Hi, Gordy, how are
- 0:53Speaker 1: you showing?
- 0:55Speaker 4: I'm doing well? Thank you?
- 0:57Speaker 3: How should we be reacting to another twenty point game
- 1:00Speaker 3: from Cody Williams very much.
- 1:03Speaker 4: He's played well for them the last month or so,
- 1:06Speaker 4: and it's encouraging his second year player right now, and
- 1:09Speaker 4: he's emerging to be a guy that's playing with more confidence.
- 1:14Speaker 4: So the month of marks right now, he's averaging fifteen
- 1:18Speaker 4: point five points per game, forty nine point seventy focal percentage,
- 1:22Speaker 4: four rebounds and three point nine assists, and so the
- 1:27Speaker 4: months of marks he has a chance to play. So
- 1:28Speaker 4: he's playing much more with confidence. He's more bouncy, he's
- 1:32Speaker 4: more aggressive defensively, and you get the feeling that he's
- 1:36Speaker 4: re part of the group as a Jazz Goo forward
- 1:38Speaker 4: next season. So he's done a good job and he's
- 1:41Speaker 4: getting slightly stronger as far as both physically and mentally,
- 1:46Speaker 4: and he showed it right now what he could do
- 1:49Speaker 4: with more growth.
- 1:51Speaker 3: Now, I've asked you some version of this question for
- 1:55Speaker 3: like the last two years, probably on every other show.
- 1:58Speaker 3: But here we are again where you're approaching the end
- 2:01Speaker 3: of the regular season. You've got six losses in a
- 2:04Speaker 3: row piled up over and over for this Utah Jazz team.
- 2:08Speaker 3: And that is by design, obviously, but there's no way
- 2:12Speaker 3: that it doesn't affect the day to day that doesn't
- 2:15Speaker 3: affect you know, your coaching staff, that it doesn't affect
- 2:18Speaker 3: the players that are having to go through.
- 2:20Speaker 1: These motions and lose these games.
- 2:23Speaker 3: So is you know, if six in a row is acceptable,
- 2:27Speaker 3: you can seven and eight, nine and ten in a
- 2:29Speaker 3: row be acceptable? Or do you have to like throw
- 2:32Speaker 3: these guys a bone and give them a little caret
- 2:34Speaker 3: and say, all right, we've got to try to win
- 2:36Speaker 3: this game, so you don't have to suffer through this
- 2:38Speaker 3: for three straight weeks.
- 2:40Speaker 4: Yeah, very much so. The guys that are playing though,
- 2:42Speaker 4: they are trying to compete and win. Now, the problem
- 2:46Speaker 4: with the team right now, the let's will say two
- 2:49Speaker 4: weeks in particular, is that they're undermanned on the boards,
- 2:53Speaker 4: that the Jazz are going slightly smaller. So the only
- 2:57Speaker 4: quote the two big guys or Kyle Philopowski and Sheep
- 3:02Speaker 4: way after sheet way, So on the boards, that's the
- 3:07Speaker 4: problem right now. The other guys on perimeter, what they're
- 3:10Speaker 4: lacking experience, they're making up in great and in shop making,
- 3:14Speaker 4: so it's encouraging. But the fact of the matter is
- 3:16Speaker 4: they lost six in a row. They need help in
- 3:19Speaker 4: the lane right now. Is physically So for example, tomorrow
- 3:21Speaker 4: Eds game, Nikolai Jokich will be absolutely and should be
- 3:24Speaker 4: a dominant factor in that game, which is most times
- 3:27Speaker 4: when particularly the Jazz only goes small and they keep
- 3:31Speaker 4: a lot of the guys at the lineup, so which
- 3:33Speaker 4: means suddenly you're ex and Kyle Philipowski the body up
- 3:36Speaker 4: and play Nikolai Jokic and John Contract, which is really
- 3:40Speaker 4: a really tough matchup.
- 3:43Speaker 3: So what does it look like, What does the actual game,
- 3:46Speaker 3: what does the actual competitive nature look like when you're
- 3:49Speaker 3: doing what Utah is doing and you've got one of
- 3:51Speaker 3: the best teams in the league and more specifically one
- 3:53Speaker 3: of the best players in the league that you have
- 3:55Speaker 3: to deal with.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Yeah, and also they want to win that the Nuggets.
- 3:59Speaker 4: The Nuggets right now are trying to chase the Lakers.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Nuggets right now, for the listeners, at forty eight and
- 4:04Speaker 4: twenty eight, there were fourth seed. As you speak this minute,
- 4:07Speaker 4: the Lakers are one game ahead of them at forty
- 4:10Speaker 4: nine and twenty six, and the t Wolves are one
- 4:13Speaker 4: game behind the Nuggets at forty six and twenty nine,
- 4:17Speaker 4: and the Rockets are two games behind at forty five
- 4:20Speaker 4: and twenty nine. So Lakers, Nuggets, Tea, Wolves, and Rockets
- 4:23Speaker 4: are all bunched up. So in their world every game
- 4:26Speaker 4: does matter. So it looks like for the Lakers, screaming
- 4:29Speaker 4: for the Nuggets coming here is that they're going to
- 4:33Speaker 4: They're going to play as hard as they can to
- 4:35Speaker 4: knock out to get a win. And so Jokis is
- 4:38Speaker 4: a big part of that. So Jamar Murray. They got
- 4:41Speaker 4: back Peyton Watson recently off the injury, and he's averaging
- 4:44Speaker 4: fourteen point eight points per game. Shown unit tublies often
- 4:48Speaker 4: with Ace Belly is that don't judge Ace Belly against
- 4:53Speaker 4: other like All Star players, judge trying to judge Ace
- 4:56Speaker 4: Belly type people and even Cody Williams against and their
- 5:00Speaker 4: age group. So for example tomorrow's game, Peyton Watson's twenty
- 5:04Speaker 4: three years old, so we're looking forward to see if
- 5:07Speaker 4: Ace Bally can outplay him. And I don't mean outscore him,
- 5:11Speaker 4: we out play him. Because Watson's done a great job
- 5:15Speaker 4: at the thirty pick of the draft, it'd be the
- 5:17Speaker 4: perfect fit to the Nuggets. Jamal Murray All Star. Now
- 5:21Speaker 4: they're playing without Aaron Gordon. He's missed this year, shown
- 5:25Speaker 4: thirty eight games and so he's said there with it
- 5:28Speaker 4: without him again. It sounds crazy saying that Nuggets have
- 5:32Speaker 4: actually overachieved, So Avon Gordon's a huge part of their success.
- 5:37Speaker 4: He's been out with the hamstring string. They're going to
- 5:39Speaker 4: try to hold them out as much as they can
- 5:41Speaker 4: until the playoffs start, or one or two games of
- 5:43Speaker 4: four just to get some reps right now. So with
- 5:46Speaker 4: an interesting team, the Nuggets. The Nuggets also are the
- 5:51Speaker 4: best three point shooting team in the NBA at thirty
- 5:55Speaker 4: nine point five percent, and unfortunately the Jazz are the
- 5:58Speaker 4: worst team defensively overall but also guarding a three point line.
- 6:03Speaker 4: So the best is playing the worst tomorrow night at
- 6:05Speaker 4: the Delta Center. And the last point about this, as
- 6:08Speaker 4: far as metrics, the Nuggets are the number one in
- 6:11Speaker 4: the NBA. As far as points score per game, they're
- 6:14Speaker 4: averaging one twenty three point three points per game, number one,
- 6:19Speaker 4: so they have a juggingnut. Offensively, they have a group
- 6:21Speaker 4: once in a lifetime player and Jolkic, and more importantly
- 6:25Speaker 4: in their world, they're playing to win.
- 6:29Speaker 3: We keep seeing Victor weber Yama do special things on
- 6:32Speaker 3: a basketball court. He was one of the fastest ever
- 6:34Speaker 3: to a double double the other night. And you know,
- 6:38Speaker 3: we've talked about the fact that he's he's sort of
- 6:40Speaker 3: verbally campaigning for for MVP consideration in addition to playing
- 6:46Speaker 3: like this. When you see him putting his his you know,
- 6:49Speaker 3: pedal to the medal, is he trying to force the voters?
- 6:52Speaker 3: Is he like, is he actually just saying all right, fine, like,
- 6:56Speaker 3: let me prove to you am the MVP.
- 7:00Speaker 4: Yes he is. He's trying to do it and he's
- 7:01Speaker 4: doing in both in French and English, which is really interesting.
- 7:05Speaker 4: All Right, we love him, Hey, that guy is great.
- 7:08Speaker 4: He's a franchise player. Hey, we love you dog. However,
- 7:12Speaker 4: I'm going to vote for him. If I was voting,
- 7:14Speaker 4: i vote n number three on the list, with number
- 7:17Speaker 4: two Yokriche and number one Shay from the Oklahoma City Thunder.
- 7:21Speaker 4: They're all worthy, absolutely, but I'm leaning towards Victor at
- 7:25Speaker 4: number three. It's a great story because he's turned around
- 7:28Speaker 4: the Spurs franchise. Last year, the Spurs win thirty four
- 7:32Speaker 4: games last season, and this year right as you speak,
- 7:36Speaker 4: right now, they're winning fifty seven games in eighteen, so
- 7:39Speaker 4: they're probably going to win between sixty sixty to fifty
- 7:43Speaker 4: one games or sixty two. And it's a great story,
- 7:45Speaker 4: almost like a Tim Duncan turnaround in David Robinson and
- 7:50Speaker 4: literally thirty years ago now. But I'm still leaning towards
- 7:54Speaker 4: Shae and Nikolai Jokic. With Jokic again, he leaves the
- 7:59Speaker 4: NBA in re bounds as it was amazing because he
- 8:02Speaker 4: really doesn't jump. Well, he leaves the NBA and the CIST,
- 8:05Speaker 4: so he leads in two categories and he's the eighth
- 8:07Speaker 4: leading score in the NBA and he dominates. It's like
- 8:12Speaker 4: we forget how.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Great he is leading the NBA in the cyst and
- 8:16Speaker 1: it says right.
- 8:17Speaker 4: But it helps him though unfortunately Sean schematically is for
- 8:21Speaker 4: some bizarre reason, I'm gonna I'm gonna call out some
- 8:25Speaker 4: of my NBA brotherhood and sisterhood. They play switch defense
- 8:29Speaker 4: against Jokic, so suddenly the world's best passer is a
- 8:34Speaker 4: jumbo deliverer because he's so taught seven foot so guy
- 8:38Speaker 4: sixty five, sixty six, sixty seven are trying to body
- 8:41Speaker 4: up on him, which is commendable as far as guarding
- 8:43Speaker 4: his trouble, but his eyesight is not. They're tort at
- 8:47Speaker 4: all because he's passing over the top, he said, through
- 8:49Speaker 4: this unbelievable skip passes over the corner for open three
- 8:53Speaker 4: point shot by Christian Brown or by Jamal Murray. And
- 8:56Speaker 4: that's it's easy when the guy guarding you isn't going
- 8:59Speaker 4: eyeball eyeball, and that's where he has an advantage on
- 9:03Speaker 4: And I wish that someone like colleagues would keep Big
- 9:06Speaker 4: on Big as far as playing him. He's not really
- 9:09Speaker 4: a speed merchant. He's just so cerebral.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Gordy Chase is my guest here on the Sean O'Connell
- 9:16Speaker 3: show talking all things NBA basketball when we discuss like
- 9:21Speaker 3: that Nuggets team, and right now, as you already mentioned,
- 9:25Speaker 3: the Spurs are the second best record in the West,
- 9:29Speaker 3: but that's still a very young team. If you're handicapping
- 9:32Speaker 3: the actual like title challengers in the West, and it
- 9:35Speaker 3: doesn't have to reflect exactly what the standings are right now.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Are the Spurs, you know, right behind Oklahoma City in
- 9:42Speaker 3: your mind?
- 9:42Speaker 1: Are they ahead of OKC?
- 9:44Speaker 3: Or because of the youth even though they've been successful
- 9:47Speaker 3: in this regular season.
- 9:48Speaker 1: In playoff basketball is a little bit different.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Would you put San Antonio maybe behind a team like
- 9:52Speaker 3: the Lakers or the Nuggets.
- 9:55Speaker 4: Yes, I would, Yeah, So I would go as you
- 9:57Speaker 4: speak right now, because experiences every thing. When you get
- 10:01Speaker 4: punched in the face in the playoffs, it's really a
- 10:04Speaker 4: badge of courage in a good way because then you
- 10:07Speaker 4: realize that there's nothing regular about the playoffs versus what
- 10:12Speaker 4: the regular season, and so you have to go through it.
- 10:16Speaker 4: Most times at least once or twice and you get
- 10:19Speaker 4: that unbelieve result. So as we speak, even though I
- 10:22Speaker 4: do love the Spurs, I would go Thunder one, Nuggets two,
- 10:30Speaker 4: Lake Is three and I'm pausing, and Spurs four in
- 10:35Speaker 4: that order. So I think the Spurts is gonna get
- 10:36Speaker 4: past the first round. They're gonna have a tough time
- 10:39Speaker 4: in the second round. It be a highly competitive series.
- 10:41Speaker 4: Remember in playoff basketball, it's not really a series until
- 10:46Speaker 4: the series goes six games. Up to that point, if
- 10:50Speaker 4: it's only five games, I mean, the team wins four
- 10:52Speaker 4: games to one, it was highly competitive games, but it
- 10:55Speaker 4: wasn't a series yet. That sixth game, the sixth game,
- 10:58Speaker 4: and the series tells the players that we can do this,
- 11:01Speaker 4: we can win this game to get the game seven,
- 11:03Speaker 4: and that's when it really becomes a series. Remember now,
- 11:05Speaker 4: as far as showing just the metrics always tell us
- 11:07Speaker 4: something not a not a total story. But for the
- 11:12Speaker 4: last seven years, there's been seven different NBA champions. Okay
- 11:16Speaker 4: we know that already, but here's the thing about it.
- 11:19Speaker 4: For the seventh straight season, the defending NBA champion didn't
- 11:23Speaker 4: advance past the second round. So, for example, last year,
- 11:26Speaker 4: in a conference semi finals. The Celtics, who are defending
- 11:30Speaker 4: champions back in twenty twenty four, did not get past
- 11:34Speaker 4: Knicks in the second round. So to the question right
- 11:38Speaker 4: now is can the thunder They think they could be
- 11:41Speaker 4: champions and back to back, but metris tell us last
- 11:44Speaker 4: seven years that the champion lost in the second round.
- 11:51Speaker 4: Don't you love NBA basketball showing don't you love NFL football?
- 11:54Speaker 4: I mean really, it tells you something.
- 11:59Speaker 3: Right now, the NBA is so fascinating to me because
- 12:03Speaker 3: of this.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Uh, I know it happens.
- 12:08Speaker 3: All the time, but there is to me, it feels
- 12:11Speaker 3: like a sort of gradual changing of the guard happening
- 12:14Speaker 3: with some of the you know, Lebron era stars aging
- 12:18Speaker 3: out or maybe the well Lebron Era is probably not
- 12:23Speaker 3: fair because he's seven years older than even the next
- 12:26Speaker 3: closest guy to him. But like some of the some
- 12:29Speaker 3: of these, like these guys, these perennial All Stars, the
- 12:32Speaker 3: Steph Curries of the world, the Lebron's of the world,
- 12:34Speaker 3: that and Kevin Durant, these guys that we have so
- 12:36Speaker 3: much admiration for and are so incredibly accomplished, are are
- 12:40Speaker 3: now coming to the point in their career where it's
- 12:42Speaker 3: like maybe your final opportunity, your final couple opportunities to
- 12:45Speaker 3: actually compete for a championship, and then this young class
- 12:49Speaker 3: that is sort of backfilling.
- 12:51Speaker 1: It's not the.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Traditional like all, we're all gonna squat up together and
- 12:56Speaker 3: create these super teams and where you only can be
- 12:58Speaker 3: in New York or LA or Boston. You know, we're
- 13:01Speaker 3: getting Oklahoma City for Eckt's sake. So I don't know,
- 13:05Speaker 3: it's a really interesting time in the league for me
- 13:07Speaker 3: because of.
- 13:08Speaker 4: That, oh very much. And that's also added that Detroit
- 13:12Speaker 4: Pistons that they're first in the East at fifty four
- 13:15Speaker 4: and twenty one and Kate cutting him has that collapse
- 13:18Speaker 4: a lung, God bless him. So they're holding them out absolutely,
- 13:21Speaker 4: And so they tried. No, they lost last night to
- 13:25Speaker 4: a tough game to the Thunder, but they've been highly competitive.
- 13:28Speaker 4: So the question, but again very similar to the Spurs.
- 13:31Speaker 4: You love both their young rosters and the coaching gets superior,
- 13:35Speaker 4: but do they have enough moxie and playoff basketball? So
- 13:39Speaker 4: the Celts are staring right at them at number two,
- 13:41Speaker 4: and the Knickerbockers and the Cabs also are staring at them,
- 13:46Speaker 4: and we saw the Cabs last night where they had
- 13:48Speaker 4: to win that game, and even though they struggled in
- 13:51Speaker 4: three point range, you know, missing so many clankings, so
- 13:55Speaker 4: many threes. With Donovan Mitchell and MOBILEI refused to let
- 13:59Speaker 4: them lose. Who are they able to knock him out?
- 14:01Speaker 4: And you know Donovan Mitchell, we haven't talked about him,
- 14:03Speaker 4: but he had thirty four points last night and he
- 14:07Speaker 4: really helped their team. I just want to refresh the listeners.
- 14:09Speaker 4: How Donovan Mitchell got to the Cleveland Cavaliers. On September one,
- 14:14Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, the Jazz traded Donovan Mitchell, who was
- 14:17Speaker 4: an All Star, to Cleveland for Larry Marketing, Coln Sexton,
- 14:22Speaker 4: O Chai Abargie, three unprotected first round picks and two
- 14:27Speaker 4: picks swaps, and there was one of those protected protected
- 14:30Speaker 4: picks in the first round became years later Jared Jackson
- 14:34Speaker 4: right now, So that was the original trade. It's helped
- 14:38Speaker 4: helped the Cavaliers tremendously. They think they could be possibly
- 14:41Speaker 4: in their World champions and we'll find out if it's
- 14:44Speaker 4: true or not and be Jazz World. They got Larry
- 14:46Speaker 4: markin an All Star and able to get eventually get
- 14:49Speaker 4: Jaron Jackson. So it's worked out for both for both organizations.
- 14:53Speaker 4: Now we'll see how it plays out as far as
- 14:55Speaker 4: both teams trying to chase the playoff ladder.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Mark Cuban had some interesting comments on a recent podcast
- 15:04Speaker 3: appearance where he talked about regretting who he sold the
- 15:09Speaker 3: team too.
- 15:11Speaker 1: You know, there's a little bit of a rift.
- 15:12Speaker 3: He still has twenty seven percent, I think of the franchise,
- 15:16Speaker 3: but he doesn't really get along with the new owners.
- 15:20Speaker 3: And I know that this is you know, when there's
- 15:22Speaker 3: real basketball being played, this business stuff is not quite
- 15:25Speaker 3: as interesting. But Mark Cuban is as vocal as visible
- 15:29Speaker 3: an owner in sports as we're going to have. And
- 15:32Speaker 3: you know, I want to ask you the question about
- 15:36Speaker 3: how much the players are affected by you know, who
- 15:40Speaker 3: the owner is, because there's the hands on team governors
- 15:44Speaker 3: and owners and there's the ones who are hands off.
- 15:47Speaker 3: And it feels like Mark Cuban does not approve of
- 15:51Speaker 3: the way that the Mavericks are being run in his stead.
- 15:56Speaker 4: Correct, absolutely so. And at both words. You remember the owner,
- 16:00Speaker 4: he owns the team, and everyone else is a highly
- 16:03Speaker 4: paid employee of the team unless you're part of the
- 16:06Speaker 4: immediate family. So I always say that. So people that
- 16:10Speaker 4: work saying jazz basketball, they are highly paid employees, but
- 16:15Speaker 4: not ownership level. Let's go to Dallas Mavericks. That's the
- 16:17Speaker 4: narrative right now. So Mark Cuban had so much fun
- 16:21Speaker 4: with the Mets, right He owned different literally for twenty
- 16:25Speaker 4: four years. And it was fun because he took this
- 16:27Speaker 4: franchise from a really mid level into championship aspirations they
- 16:32Speaker 4: won at one time, and he competed in the NBA
- 16:35Speaker 4: Finals twice, and so he did a great job there
- 16:39Speaker 4: and more importantly, in his world, the asset grew unbelievable. Now,
- 16:44Speaker 4: the Dumont family, who owns the largest casinos in the world,
- 16:49Speaker 4: they bought that franchise because they want to try to
- 16:52Speaker 4: attempt to be the first people in when the state
- 16:55Speaker 4: of Texas goes into casino business, and they want to
- 16:58Speaker 4: be able to understand the damas of it and who's
- 17:01Speaker 4: in who's in charge of the state legislation, and they're
- 17:04Speaker 4: going to do whatever it takes to be the first
- 17:07Speaker 4: people in as far as multi billion dollar business for
- 17:11Speaker 4: casinos in the great the long start state. All right,
- 17:14Speaker 4: Rob Cuban now is out of out of the equation,
- 17:17Speaker 4: and I'm sure he misses it, and more importantly, the
- 17:20Speaker 4: players that were still still there missed his what his
- 17:23Speaker 4: experience of running a franchise, and also understanding the dynamics
- 17:28Speaker 4: between ownership level and management, players, and more importantly the fans,
- 17:34Speaker 4: because member Sean, without the fans, there's no NBA franchise
- 17:38Speaker 4: without the fans. There's no Pittsburgh Steelers without the fans,
- 17:42Speaker 4: there's no there's no Seattle Seahawks. And that's why it's
- 17:46Speaker 4: so important to understand how everything involved, as far as
- 17:50Speaker 4: even different identities, but also as one as one group.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards miss tip off last night because of a
- 18:00Speaker 3: potty emergency. Uh, how does the how does the locker
- 18:04Speaker 3: room react to this? Is this something that you make
- 18:07Speaker 3: fun of the guy for for the next couple.
- 18:09Speaker 4: Of weeks sean weeks, I mean years? Right here, The
- 18:14Speaker 4: answer is absolutely yes. Of course you had to go
- 18:17Speaker 4: to the bathroom. It happens to everybody that's called living
- 18:20Speaker 4: on earth. Really okay, really, I'm giving this great speech,
- 18:23Speaker 4: but I go to the bathroom way I'm playing in
- 18:26Speaker 4: game seven, I'm a quarterback. Wait a second, I'm a
- 18:29Speaker 4: sideline reporter. I'm always amazed. These people on sideline football
- 18:32Speaker 4: games don't they ever go to the bathroom? These people
- 18:35Speaker 4: don't he ever? Really and so God bless him. So
- 18:38Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards that jumping jack to guard from the Minnesota
- 18:42Speaker 4: Tea Wolves. And maybe also he was injured, so he
- 18:45Speaker 4: came out with his first game back off injury. It's
- 18:48Speaker 4: he's more insulting for him, and so he foundly as
- 18:50Speaker 4: a chance to play. He's an NBA performer, and he
- 18:54Speaker 4: doesn't start the game because they don't want to start
- 18:57Speaker 4: him just to get he'sn't back into it. And then
- 18:59Speaker 4: when he did get the game, you had to go
- 19:01Speaker 4: to bathroom first. Don't you love MBA. There's so many
- 19:04Speaker 4: subplots amazing.
- 19:07Speaker 3: If if Duke called you and said, hey, I need
- 19:10Speaker 3: you to talk to these guys that just gave up
- 19:11Speaker 3: a nineteen point lead and lost an opportunity to go
- 19:14Speaker 3: to the final four. What how do you get through
- 19:17Speaker 3: to a team that's just suffered through something like that.
- 19:19Speaker 4: They're devastated. And also add to that, remember they lost
- 19:22Speaker 4: back to back years like that too, So you lost
- 19:25Speaker 4: also last year to Houston Cougar's and in that situation,
- 19:29Speaker 4: they were up and the Cougar's out fought them, you
- 19:32Speaker 4: kind of really out top them. So the answer is
- 19:35Speaker 4: that you try to talk about the positive things that
- 19:39Speaker 4: were happening, how you get up up nineteen, and then
- 19:43Speaker 4: as the weeks and months ago on really try to
- 19:45Speaker 4: self analyze them from a coaching staff and also to
- 19:49Speaker 4: the players, what we can do that this never happens again.
- 19:53Speaker 4: If you're Yukon, you flew back from Washington, d C.
- 19:57Speaker 4: Back to Storr's, Connecticut without a plane. You were so
- 20:00Speaker 4: high up and you're so high mentally as far as
- 20:02Speaker 4: doing that, toughness does matter. Besides talent, I know a
- 20:06Speaker 4: lot of times you could be tough or by the way,
- 20:08Speaker 4: you have no talent. Yukon's got talent and also senior experience.
- 20:13Speaker 4: You know now with the Yukon's like they're gritty, like
- 20:16Speaker 4: they've been through this before. Even though the freshman made
- 20:18Speaker 4: the thirty eight foot jump shot literally to get them
- 20:21Speaker 4: to the final four, the group has forty two and
- 20:25Speaker 4: that's what makes it so special. If yu can't does
- 20:28Speaker 4: win the championship will be the third time in the
- 20:30Speaker 4: last four years, and in this era of nil money,
- 20:34Speaker 4: this is unbelievable, hard to do because really basically most
- 20:39Speaker 4: of the teams now just generally speaking, will say the
- 20:41Speaker 4: top forty programs have the same range of equal money.
- 20:45Speaker 4: Now now it's coaching, and now it's what sharing and
- 20:48Speaker 4: caring for your teammates during those games.
- 20:52Speaker 1: How well do you know the Hurley family?
- 20:55Speaker 4: I know them since there they were born Bob Hurley
- 20:58Speaker 4: Senor Denny's farre we go back to nineteen sixty nine
- 21:04Speaker 4: in Jersey City, New Jersey. I know his wife, Chris
- 21:06Speaker 4: Ferb at the same time also, so I know the
- 21:10Speaker 4: whole family for literally almost like what I said, almost
- 21:13Speaker 4: wanted to stand right fifty nine years and that's correct. Also,
- 21:17Speaker 4: when I coached a thousand years ago and back in
- 21:19Speaker 4: the nineteen seventies at Saint Thomas Aquinas College, my captain
- 21:23Speaker 4: of my team, a guy named Bob Kilduff, was the
- 21:26Speaker 4: first captain of Bob Hurley's team at Jergia City Saint Anthony's.
- 21:31Speaker 4: So we have so many things in common besides location,
- 21:34Speaker 4: somewhat age group, and also these unbelievable gritty guys from
- 21:39Speaker 4: Jergia City, New Jersey. So I know him absolutely for
- 21:42Speaker 4: a thousand years.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Before we let you go, Gordy what's your list.
- 21:46Speaker 4: But list today is a very short list. It's only
- 21:49Speaker 4: eight names, Sean. Because it's so hard to do this,
- 21:53Speaker 4: we call this the Triple Crown of American basketball. These
- 21:57Speaker 4: are the players have won an NCAA Championship, an NBA title,
- 22:03Speaker 4: an Olympic gold medal, Shawn Triple Crown American Basketball, NCAA champions,
- 22:11Speaker 4: NBA title, Olympic Gold medal. Here we go. Number eight
- 22:16Speaker 4: Quinn Buckner, Indiana University nineteen seventy six, Celtics won NBA
- 22:21Speaker 4: Championship nineteen seventy six, Montreal, Canada, Olympic Gold. Jerry Lucas,
- 22:27Speaker 4: Higher State University nineteen sixty NCAA Champs. Nick Oboker's Champion
- 22:32Speaker 4: nineteen sixty Rome, Italy Olympic Gold Medal, Anthony Davis, Kentucky
- 22:38Speaker 4: Wildcats twenty to twelve, Lakers in the Bubble, NBA Champions
- 22:43Speaker 4: two Thy twelve, London Olympics in twenty twenty four, Olympic
- 22:50Speaker 4: Gold Medal in Paris. Number five clyde Velle Kandas Shoe
- 22:56Speaker 4: nineteen fifty two Celtics Champions, Lakers Champampions nineteen fifty two
- 23:01Speaker 4: in Helsinki, Finland, Olympic gold medal. Number four, Magic Johnson
- 23:07Speaker 4: Michigan State nineteen seventy nine versus Larry Bird Lakers. We
- 23:12Speaker 4: know that. Five championships nineteen ninety two, the original dream
- 23:16Speaker 4: team in Barcelona, Spain. Number three his name is Michael Jordan,
- 23:21Speaker 4: North Colina, Tar Hills nineteen eighty two Bulls six championships,
- 23:27Speaker 4: two Olympic titles nineteen eighty four, the La Olympics nineteen
- 23:32Speaker 4: ninety two, the original dream team of Barcelona, Spain. Two
- 23:36Speaker 4: more names. K cy Jones University of San Francisco, two
- 23:42Speaker 4: NCAA Championships, Celtics eight championships nineteen fifty six Melbourne, Australia
- 23:49Speaker 4: and the last one we always talk about all the time.
- 23:53Speaker 4: You can make a discussion. He's the greatest winner of
- 23:55Speaker 4: any team sport in history of any sport. Bill Russell,
- 24:00Speaker 4: University of San Francisco. Two ncaaight Championships, eleven Celtic Championships
- 24:06Speaker 4: and in nineteen fifty six Melbourne, Australia Olympic gold medal.
- 24:10Speaker 4: One more quick note. This guy possibly Sean could do
- 24:14Speaker 4: it in the future. Stephan Castle of the Spurs. He's
- 24:18Speaker 4: won one NCAA championship of the Yukon. If Victor went
- 24:22Speaker 4: beyond is as trusted sidekicking him could collaborate maybe with
- 24:26Speaker 4: an NBA championship. And he's good enough to be someday
- 24:30Speaker 4: Olympic team member and win a gold medal in the Olympics.
- 24:33Speaker 4: So Stephan Castle could be in the list, hopefully relatively soon.
- 24:37Speaker 4: Thus that's my list of the Triple Crown, not of racing,
- 24:41Speaker 4: but the American basketball.
- 24:43Speaker 1: I love it, Gordy.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Spoiler alert, I'm going to use that little factory.
- 24:47Speaker 1: Gordy just gave us as our trivia question today.
- 24:50Speaker 3: So if you're listening now, you might get yourself some
- 24:52Speaker 3: Weezer tickets later with it.
- 24:54Speaker 4: Oh I love Weezer. Okay, good, I like it.
- 24:57Speaker 3: Maybe we'll dig you up some tickets too, Gordy. Oh,
- 25:00Speaker 3: thank you, thanks for your time as always, appreciate you, sir.
- 25:04Speaker 4: Thanks you on peace out.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Grdechiasa are resident NBA Guru.