Latest / North Shore News / December 18th, 2024
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- 0:00Welcome to North Shore News and Interviews on Amherst Island Radio.
- 0:13Each week we keep you updated on newsworthy events, happenings, and conversations that
- 0:18we've had with people in the local community and beyond.
- 0:25Public Energy Incorporated is looking at converting the old Kingston Generation Plan in Loyalist
- 0:29Township into North America's first hydrogen-peaking plant.
- 0:33This type of plant produces hydrogen at night when energy costs are cheaper and stores it
- 0:38to be sold when it's needed.
- 0:40The company presented council with plans at their year-end meeting and spoke about the
- 0:44benefits of hydrogen.
- 0:45The retired plant is located on Taylor Kid Boulevard and has access to Lake Ontario.
- 0:50The plan would include an investment of $400 million into Loyalist Township and nearly
- 0:55130 new jobs brought to the area.
- 0:58President of Public Energy Inc. John Douglas explains the conversion process and their
- 1:03willingness to rename the facility.
- 1:05We started looking for a retired gas project that had an interconnection that we could
- 1:11use and basically replace those gas turbines with new 100% hydrogen turbines, which is
- 1:20what we're proposing to do for the Kingston power plant.
- 1:24We're quite happy to let whoever rename that facility, whether it's Loyalist Generating
- 1:32Station or Loyalist Hydrogen Station.
- 1:35Douglas spoke about the jobs it could create in the area and noted the interest they've
- 1:39had from large companies.
- 1:41The thing to keep in mind is we're talking about a $400 million project that will generate
- 1:46100 construction jobs, probably 15 to 20 great operational jobs for the 30-year life.
- 1:54And this will be the first such hydrogen peaker plant in North America.
- 2:00So we have both GE and Siemens that are pretty keen to be the first.
- 2:06Douglas notes the unique opportunity Ontario provides.
- 2:09A common way to make hydrogen is through a chemical process using an electrolyzer.
- 2:15So electrolyzers have been around for a long time.
- 2:17There's nothing new there.
- 2:19But Ontario offers a unique opportunity for this because of course at night our energy,
- 2:25our electricity is pretty cheap.
- 2:28So we're proposing to make hydrogen at night with cheap electricity like for a penny a
- 2:34kilowatt and storing that hydrogen on site to burn in a turbine to make electricity when
- 2:45it's required.
- 2:46Douglas spoke about the support they've received and the steps they'll need to take going forward.
- 2:50We've spent the past year talking to the Ministry of Energy.
- 2:54We first started with Minister Smith, but now of course we have Minister Leche and his
- 3:00assistant deputy, Minister Oosterhof.
- 3:03So they're very familiar with this project.
- 3:04They really like it.
- 3:06So does the Premier.
- 3:07So we have lots of political support.
- 3:10But I think as we've learned from the LT1 exercise, municipal support is critical now.
- 3:18There's all kinds of new regulations from an agricultural perspective on renewable energy
- 3:23brought in by not just the provincial government but by the federal government.
- 3:27So there's lots of check marks that need to be acquired for a project like this.
- 3:33Douglas details the history of how he and co-founder Dr. Dennis Stein came up with
- 3:38the plan.
- 3:39Dennis and I go back a fair ways.
- 3:42So when he came to Canada, we started working together on sort of what's going to be the
- 3:47next big thing.
- 3:48And so we decided that distributed generation will be part of the future.
- 3:55Dennis advised the German government on their energy transition and people were just starting
- 4:00to talk about that back then.
- 4:03And so we started Public Energy.
- 4:04It's based in Toronto.
- 4:05We're an independent power producer.
- 4:08We own and operate power plants in Ontario and currently we operate seven power plants
- 4:14for industrial customers.
- 4:16Stein talks about the benefits of hydrogen.
- 4:18It's probably the first molecule that was created in the universe because it's the simplest
- 4:23molecule and it has the highest energy density of everything that we know in our nature.
- 4:30So it's a great energy storage device.
- 4:33But using electricity as an energy form that can be transferred from, as we said, from
- 4:40the great at night to the hydrogen and back into the electricity is actually from the
- 4:44physical perspective excellent way to advance the power systems in this province.
- 4:52It's really about providing a service that's carbon free, that's sustainable and that's
- 5:00superior to a battery service, I would say, in that case.
- 5:03Stein explains the value of the service they propose to offer.
- 5:07This is not about electricity and energy.
- 5:09This is about the service that this hydrogen can provide to the grid.
- 5:13So the value, we are not buying once a kilowatt hour and then selling it for 10 cents.
- 5:20This is not the case.
- 5:21So we are selling them a service that they can call whenever they want.
- 5:27And that service has a value that goes way beyond kilowatt hour pricing.
- 5:32So it's not really about kind of gaming the one cent against 10 cents.
- 5:37It's really about having an equipment that produces that service and that's electricity
- 5:42and at any given time when they need it and the rotating mass and inertia and all of that
- 5:46that's coming out of this turbine.
- 5:48It has much, much higher value at that given moment in time than I so requires than a kilowatt
- 5:54hour they can buy on the market.
- 5:55So they have energy markets and then a capacity market.
- 5:58So we are turning energy into the capacity basically and selling this as a capacity service.
- 6:04Douglas explains why a unique situation with power creation in Ontario makes this a good
- 6:09time to consider switching to hydrogen.
- 6:11People in Canada were talking about, hey, let's make hydrogen to export to Germany or
- 6:17let's make hydrogen to use for the transportation business.
- 6:22When we started, we came up with a different concept mostly from Dennis's sort of experience
- 6:27and expertise of, hey, let's make hydrogen with this super cheap energy at night.
- 6:33And sometimes in Ontario with our nuclear power, we can't turn off our nukes.
- 6:39So we actually pay Americans to take our power.
- 6:43It's bid negative at night like we'll pay them a penny or sometimes two cents to take
- 6:49the energy because we can't afford to turn off a nuke.
- 6:51If you turn off a nuclear reactor, it might take six months to turn it back on because
- 6:56you have to go through all this protocol.
- 6:58So that's the unique situation of Ontario and why we think it makes this an incredible
- 7:05opportunity for growth and for investment.
- 7:09Douglas notes the environmental impact the plant could have.
- 7:12Companies like Volkswagen and these large global manufacturers, they care about carbon
- 7:18now because their boards are saying they want suppliers that have a low carbon footprint.
- 7:24So by setting up shop in Ontario, they're basically ahead of the game.
- 7:29So we have a green grid.
- 7:31We're going to help green the grid here by a hydrogen peaker plant.
- 7:35Douglas speaks about the future of the project and its benefits.
- 7:38We will be looking for municipal resolution of support at some point.
- 7:44What we're talking about is 100% emission free, a $400 million project that will be
- 7:50one of the first and a unique opportunity to make it almost like a hydrogen sort of
- 7:58energy center that will attract more interest and could be used as kind of a center of excellence.
- 8:06We're talking about basically off the shelf components used in a new way.
- 8:11That's the innovation that we're proposing.
- 8:13Mayor Jim Hagedorn noted his interest.
- 8:16Producing power from hydrogen is kind of intriguing to me, so I've been quite interested in this.
- 8:22Councillor Paul Pratrick noted a potential hang up in the process.
- 8:26The emission thing, I think that's unique.
- 8:28The one thing that obviously in the starting stages is some kind of safety plan that's
- 8:32communicated to the community because I think in past experiences that has been a major
- 8:36roadblock.
- 8:39For Amherst Island Radio and the Local Journalism Initiative, I'm Tat Evans.
- 8:44This is North Shore News.
- 8:54Amherst Island Radio has come a long way from a tumble beginning 16 years ago in a converted
- 8:59milk house on Amherst Island.
- 9:02Today the station boasts a 4,800 watt transmitter serving loyalist township Kingston, Napa Nii
- 9:08and farther north and can be heard worldwide on the internet.
- 9:12And they continue to grow with the addition of their newly launched media hub in Bath,
- 9:17Ontario.
- 9:18Located at 218 Main Street in Bath, the new media hub represents a major leap forward
- 9:24for the non-profit volunteer run station.
- 9:27Eric Trombley, brand manager, says the goal is to create a space allowing the community
- 9:32to tell stories and share performances in new and exciting ways that weren't possible
- 9:37with the space restrictions of the main station.
- 9:40The new facility will feature a broadcast studio, performance and recording studio,
- 9:45multimedia production tools, and even live streaming capabilities.
- 9:50All for free for residents of Loyola's Township.
- 9:55Starting in the new year, Amherst Island Radio expects the media hub to up the station's
- 10:00game with the all new performance studio opening its doors to musicians providing them with
- 10:05the opportunity to record, live stream and broadcast live to air using high quality equipment.
- 10:12With over 150 live and station performances hosted annually, Eric explained that for the
- 10:18first time they can host full bands without worry.
- 10:22He says in the past to accommodate larger groups that they've had to set up a drum
- 10:26kit down the hall in the office at the main station.
- 10:30The new media hub isn't replacing the main station on the island, but rather will compliment
- 10:35the station's existing operations on Amherst Island, allowing volunteers more opportunity
- 10:41to continue to serve the over 20,000 listeners every month.
- 10:45The station's expansion utilizes a private internet connection linking the media hub
- 10:50to the existing broadcast tower on Amherst Island, ensuring that the community's creativity
- 10:55can reach even more listeners and keeping the media hub connected and coordinated with
- 11:00the main station and FM signal.
- 11:02By broadening its capabilities, the station aims to ensure future generations of local
- 11:07media makers and strengthen its role as a vital community resource.
- 11:12As the performance studio continues to take shape, Amherst Island Radio is calling on
- 11:16the community for support.
- 11:18Donations and volunteers are needed to complete the studio.
- 11:21For more information or to contribute, visit cjai.ca, join the Facebook group Friends of
- 11:27Amherst Island Radio and stay tuned to Amherst Island Radio 101.3 FM or online at cjai.ca.
- 11:36For Amherst Island Radio, I'm Jordan Webster.
- 11:40This is North Shore News.
- 11:50Nearly 60% of respondents in a fundraising campaign study for the W.J. Henderson Recreation
- 11:55Center said they'd be likely to donate towards the $2 million goal.
- 12:00Interviews for the study were conducted by BNP Goldie, Canada.
- 12:03Loyalist Township Council approved the motion to receive the report and approve commencement
- 12:07of the capital campaign outlined within it.
- 12:10Senior consultant with BNP Goldie, Canada, Lee Pejo, spoke about the amount of people
- 12:15willing to donate.
- 12:16Close to 60% of people said they would make a donation they're ready to give.
- 12:21And those who weren't sure, nobody said no, some said unsure.
- 12:25The majority of those said they were likely to give if they could understand the rationale
- 12:31behind it a little better.
- 12:33So that again, it was seen as a fairly positive comment.
- 12:37Pejo explains the focus of the study.
- 12:40Our question was to determine whether raising $2 million in donations for the renewal of
- 12:45the W.J. Henderson Recreation Center in donations and sponsorship is realistic and achievable.
- 12:53So we wanted to determine whether a fundraising campaign could be undertaken and how much
- 12:59support that campaign would have in the community.
- 13:02We wanted to identify the level of participation in that fundraising campaign by donors and
- 13:08volunteers and to identify campaign leaders and to assess their level of engagement so
- 13:15we know who would be working with Loyalist to raise the funds.
- 13:20Pejo detailed the process they took in the study.
- 13:22We prepare a case for support or a rationale around the question.
- 13:28We work to get a list of people to interview, influencers, decision makers, people in the
- 13:33know in the community.
- 13:35We prepare and agreed to interview questionnaire and we send out some meeting requests by email
- 13:41and follow them up.
- 13:42Then of course we do the appointments and then our third phase of course is the consolidation
- 13:48of those results, our analysis, the creation of the report, and that all happened between
- 13:54September and today's date.
- 13:56Pejo noted the main demographics that showed interest.
- 13:58There were generally two types of people that were considered to be interested in the project
- 14:03itself and that's the new or younger residents and potential residents of Loyalist Township
- 14:09who want services like this and will move into an area where there are services.
- 14:15And then there are more established residents who are interested in the project because
- 14:18they wanted something to be proud of.
- 14:20Pejo explained some of the challenges they found in the study.
- 14:23The challenges of running a $2 million campaign right now was that there are competition from
- 14:28other large charities such as the hospitals and post-secondary institutes in the area.
- 14:34There is a perception from some people that it is already built because it is and therefore
- 14:39is already paid for.
- 14:41So why would you need a campaign?
- 14:44The general economy and community demographics were seen by some as a challenge.
- 14:49It was also commented that not everybody uses it.
- 14:53There are some regional dynamics at play because Loyalist is a smaller community next to a
- 14:59larger community and there were some who wondered that aren't the taxes already paying for it.
- 15:05Pejo spoke about the response to the $2 million goal itself.
- 15:09We talked about and we tested the $2 million goal.
- 15:13The feedback we got was either uncertain or positive.
- 15:18There was no negativity around that and the uncertainty we had was people projecting their
- 15:24uncertainty onto others.
- 15:26So the people we interviewed said, I think it's a great idea, but I'm not sure how others
- 15:30would take the goal.
- 15:33So that was really an interesting part of the campaign for us and something again that
- 15:39will need to be addressed in communication.
- 15:41Pejo noted some common themes brought up within the interviews.
- 15:45There was general agreement that the facility is needed and a new facility.
- 15:51That it is a world-class project.
- 15:52It's not just another arena, it is regional.
- 15:57It is not just Loyalist Township that they would bring people in from other areas and
- 16:03that many clubs, groups and ages can participate in the community campaign, that there would
- 16:07be broad acceptance from the general community.
- 16:11And there was a broad support for donations and participation across the interviews.
- 16:18Pejo detailed the next steps.
- 16:21The immediate next steps is that our organization BMP will create a campaign plan and timeline
- 16:28that will put all of this together, include a campaign committee, a working committee.
- 16:36Of those volunteers who are going to hit the ground, get out there and get the major donations.
- 16:41That will mean in terms of reference, the scope, the scale of what they're doing.
- 16:45A fundraising advisory committee that would be made up of both council staff and volunteers
- 16:53so that there would be a bit of an oversight to what's going on.
- 16:58And specifically around timing, goals and naming opportunities.
- 17:01And again, that's about quantifying something so that you know when you've achieved something.
- 17:06And specifically a very strong communications plan that sets out actionable items as well
- 17:13as strategy to make the campaign successful.
- 17:18Pejo went on to speak about a timeline for next year and beyond.
- 17:22In January, we will complete the campaign case, the justification, the full rationale
- 17:27around it, as well as recruiting campaign leadership, getting a campaign chair specifically.
- 17:37And then next year, we would start with recruiting the other committee members, finalizing the
- 17:42communication materials themselves, create a campaign reference guide and training materials
- 17:48for those volunteers and staff, those question and answers, scenarios, you know, the ability
- 17:54for people to move forward on some things like that.
- 17:58And then finally next January, we have our final report and future planning for sponsorship
- 18:03and other activities.
- 18:04Pejo noted the positive outlook in the interviews and highlighted a positive quote.
- 18:09One of the big things that came out of it was that it was a legacy project.
- 18:12It was a rallying point for the community.
- 18:14This is a once in a generation project.
- 18:17As in this quote, it's this community hub, it's safe in its accessible space.
- 18:21It's something that many people in this council probably would only make a decision on once
- 18:26in a lifetime.
- 18:27Mayor Jim Haggadourne spoke about the report and where the township stands.
- 18:31I had great information and it looks like we've got a solid plan to start moving forward
- 18:35on.
- 18:36We have Cameron Stylen radio and the local journalism initiative.
- 18:39I'm Ted Evans.
- 18:41This is North Shore News.
- 18:51Naturally LNA has released Lennox and Addington's ultimate holiday shopping tour.
- 18:55A guide to local businesses to shop at this holiday season from Loyalist to Greater Napa
- 19:01County, Stone Mills to Addington Highlands, visit NaturallyLA.ca and check out the local
- 19:08businesses involved in the local shopping route.
- 19:11For Amherst Island Radio, I'm Jordan Webster.
- 19:15This is North Shore News.
- 19:25Loyalist Township is reminding residents that they can take advantage of a special discount
- 19:29on dog tags.
- 19:30Now through March 31st, 2025, the discounted rate is just $15.
- 19:37After March 31st, the price will return to the regular fee of $30.
- 19:42You can pick up your dog tags at locations like the Odessa Municipal Office, Free Flow
- 19:48and Shells Market and Bath, Amherst View Pet Hospital, or WJ Henderson Recreation Center.
- 19:55And you can also purchase them online at loyalist.ca slash dog tags.
- 20:02For Amherst Island Radio, I'm Jordan Webster.
- 20:05This is North Shore News.
- 20:15Lennox and Addington will see its first ever holiday pantomime event this year in Odessa,
- 20:19Torrent Productions, a production company formerly based in Toronto that has recently
- 20:23relocated to Lennox and Addington are preparing to host the event.
- 20:27Cinderella, a merry magical pantomime, will be running from December 19th to 24th at a
- 20:32manual United Church in Odessa.
- 20:34Tickets are now on sale.
- 20:36Torrent Productions is run by husband and wife team Rob Torr and award-winning choreographer
- 20:40Stephanie Graham.
- 20:42They're hoping to make this an annual tradition for the community in Lennox and Addington.
- 20:46Co-artistic producer Rob Torr explains what pantomime is.
- 20:50It's a wonderful medium because we have music, we hope, that satisfies all the different generations.
- 21:01And there's vaudeville comedy, there's silly comedy, there's classic music, there's up-to-date
- 21:08music.
- 21:09Wordplay.
- 21:10Wordplay.
- 21:11It's all the things.
- 21:13There really is something for everybody.
- 21:17Word describes the company's history and his own personal connection to pantomime.
- 21:21We're from Toronto.
- 21:22We moved out here about three and a half years ago.
- 21:26And we've done four successful pantos downtown Toronto in a very sort of small-town feel.
- 21:32We were doing it at the local Legion.
- 21:35And Panto is my passion.
- 21:39And it was before we started them, but after producing them and seeing the magic that they
- 21:45created is why I want to continue doing it.
- 21:51We saw memories being formed.
- 21:56And that's what I want to do.
- 21:57I want families to be able to come to this and have memories and remember having a good
- 22:03time together.
- 22:05And silliness.
- 22:06I always say Panto is not going to change the world, but it might make it a better place.
- 22:13Project producer Stephanie Graham explains what they do at Torrent Productions.
- 22:17We have three core mandate things about Torrent production.
- 22:22Like we want to bring affordable professional theatre to Southern Ontario.
- 22:26We are interested in developing new shows and then encouraging and nurturing bridges
- 22:31between generations and the diverse demographics in our community.
- 22:35So those are our sort of three pillars.
- 22:37For right now we're focusing on the Panto and building that, but who's to say what might
- 22:41happen more in the future?
- 22:43A couple of notes how the show could expand and what they may be working on in the future.
- 22:47I've got three more shows written and ready to go.
- 22:50And our hope, like this year, we're only, at the moment we're scheduled to do eight shows,
- 22:56but we are able to extend.
- 22:59If possible.
- 23:00If we have enough, and again, that's all based on ticket sales.
- 23:04But I mean, I'd like to make this in the future.
- 23:07I'd like a six week run.
- 23:08I'd like people coming from all up and down the sea way to come to Odessa, come to Lenox
- 23:14and Addington, come to our little part of the world and enjoy all the things we have
- 23:22to offer here.
- 23:23The couple note how the show is currently run and how they'd like to foster more local
- 23:26talent in the future.
- 23:27We're asking Toronto based actors to come out here for four weeks at the holidays.
- 23:33And we have to pay them and we have to house them.
- 23:36But what I really would love to do is to be able to attract Kingston actors who've gone
- 23:43abroad and bring them back home so that they can be with their families during the holidays.
- 23:49But also so that we as a community can celebrate the talent that this community has helped
- 23:55create.
- 23:56We live in the area too, like we get it.
- 23:59And we would like to foster something, you know, something so that, and not just truly,
- 24:04not just the talent that's on the stage, but also stage managers and technical and also
- 24:12teaching audiences how to enjoy life theater.
- 24:15Because that's something that we don't do in this country.
- 24:19And pantomime is it's like an entry level form of life theater.
- 24:24And because it's not children's theater, it's family entertainment.
- 24:28The couple spoke about the long standing tradition of pantomime in the UK.
- 24:32My ultimate goal is to have a child that comes to see our show when they're seven or eight.
- 24:38And then we probably don't see them when they're 15 or 16.
- 24:41But then they go away to university and they come back and they go, you know, let's go
- 24:43to the panto and then they come back with their kids.
- 24:46Like that's that's the tradition in the UK.
- 24:49Like we didn't invent this format.
- 24:51It's it's it's it comes from well, a long, long tradition in the UK.
- 24:57And it's on it's that thing that you do during the holidays.
- 25:01You go to a panto and you have you have some silliness.
- 25:04Tor describes why he's so passionate about pantomime and is excited to bring it to Lenox
- 25:08and Addington.
- 25:10There's a magic that happens between the actors and the audience.
- 25:14And that's something that, you know, as the director, writer, producer, that relationship
- 25:20is something that, you know, I nurture.
- 25:23But what we find with this style of theater is a magic that I don't have control over.
- 25:30And that's the moment when a parent and a child laughed at something together and then
- 25:37look at each other and notice that they're sharing that moment together.
- 25:44And that's the magic I'm interested in creating.
- 25:47I think those are the special moments that we hope and we saw them every show.
- 25:53And it was it really was.
- 25:56It's sort of become my raison d'etre to nurture an opportunity for that to happen.
- 26:04For Amherst Island Radio and the Local Journalism Initiative, I'm Ted Evans.
- 26:09This is North Shore News.
- 26:19I'm Sarah Bridge with Kingsons News and here are your top headlines today, December 18th,
- 26:232024.
- 26:24The deputy chief of the Kingsons Police Force has been suspended.
- 26:27The chair of Kingsons Police Services Board has now confirmed.
- 26:30Board chair Stearns confirmed that Funnel has been suspended but gave no further details
- 26:33on the nature of the suspension nor the reasoning at this time.
- 26:37Postal operations resumed yesterday as Canada Post employees returned to work following
- 26:40a Canada Industrial Relations Board ruling.
- 26:43The City of Kingston is advising Canada Post customers that they should expect delays in
- 26:46processing and delivery.
- 26:48Last week, Kingsons City Councilors presented the Queen's Family Health team with a $100,000
- 26:52per check through the City of Kingston Primary Care Clinic Grant.
- 26:55The two initiatives that the money is going towards will reportedly support the clinic
- 26:58in rostering 1,200 patients through Health Care Connect.
- 27:02In a press release on Tuesday, December 17th, Kingsons Police said their officers are currently
- 27:06investigating two recent incidents of so-called distraction thefts, victimizing seniors.
- 27:10Police describe the suspects in both incidents as being a middle-aged male with two adult
- 27:14females accompanied by two young children in the backseat.
- 27:17A long list of local organizations are the recipients of a generous donation from small
- 27:21but mighty group of local kinsmen.
- 27:23This year, the Kinsman Club of Napa Nia is donating $52,000 to local organizations.
- 27:29The once-sleepy village of Westbrook located along Highway 2 not far from the city's western
- 27:33border is poised for some major growth over the next quarter century, and the city is
- 27:37working on some public and private land deals to help accommodate that projected growth.
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