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Inside The Birds Week 14 Pregame Show With Greg Cosell: Philadelphia Eagles Vs. Los Angeles Chargers · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to the Inside the Birds pregame show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher alongside Adam Kaplan and with us as
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  Speaker 1: always is the man who breaks down the tape of
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles and their opponent, and that is Greg Cosell
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  Speaker 1: and the Eagles. Well, I'll say this, the Eagles and
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers each have a very big game on Monday night,
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  Speaker 1: and it happens to be that they're playing each other
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  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. These are two eight and four teams.
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  Speaker 1: These are two teams dealing with injuries. These are two
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  Speaker 1: teams that are gonna be most very likely in the playoffs. However,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how the last five games go, these could
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  Speaker 1: be two teams either going in the same direction, up
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  Speaker 1: or down, or.
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  Speaker 2: Left or right.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a very important game between two really good teams, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: when you look at this matchup, we know we've talked
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  Speaker 1: all week about how significant it is for the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: coming off a two game slide, but obviously the Chargers
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  Speaker 1: are trying to hang with the Broncos in the AFC
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  Speaker 1: West and keep their spot in the playoffs as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and guys, the good thing is we don't have
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  Speaker 3: to talk about weather this week. Thank goodness. Enough of that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's indoors Eagles. No, so far from playing
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  Speaker 3: the Rams. Now they're playing the Chargers. And I know
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  Speaker 3: from being at the In fact, Jeff, you were hosting
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  Speaker 3: of the Fanatic when I called you from LA in
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  Speaker 3: twenty seventeen when Eagles were playing with the Rams at
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  Speaker 3: the La Milesoleum, I could tell you, and I know
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  Speaker 3: for the Charger game as well, when La Garrett Blunt
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  Speaker 3: went crazy against the Chargers defense at Home Depot Stadium,
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  Speaker 3: that there'll be a huge fan base there. Huge Chargers
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  Speaker 3: do not like people will Charger fans will go, but
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  Speaker 3: there are a lot of displaced at Philadelphians here. So
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  Speaker 3: this will this will be. This is a fascinating game because,
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  Speaker 3: as you said, I'll send it back to you in
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  Speaker 3: a second. Both teams need the game, There's no question
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  Speaker 3: about it. Forget about Dallas and winning division. We're just
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  Speaker 3: talking about getting righted. They're only eight and four s
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  Speaker 3: two games are not good. Chargers been up and down lately.
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  Speaker 3: You never to q know what you're getting. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of mystery to this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had two different people reach out to
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  Speaker 1: me around the league just as a joke to say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, big game, but there will be a pro
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  Speaker 1: Philly crowd out there in LA like you just said, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: And my response was, well, that just means the booing
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  Speaker 1: will come after the first three and out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it would at home. That could be a good
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  Speaker 1: thing or a bad thing, because they're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: happier just because they're in Sofi Stadium. So it'll be
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  Speaker 1: very interesting to see what that crowd is.
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  Speaker 2: Like.
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  Speaker 1: I remember covering a Chargers Eagles game out in when
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  Speaker 1: they played in Qualcomm in San Diego.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say two thousand and eight nine. Jason
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  Speaker 2: Leavan had a big game.
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  Speaker 1: I believe the Eagles lost the game, but it was
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  Speaker 1: such a pro Philly crowd. I always felt that if
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles were ever winning, or had won, they would
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  Speaker 1: have They had already taken over the stadium in bodies,
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  Speaker 1: They could have taken over the stadium in cheers, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't to be that day.
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  Speaker 4: Greg.
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  Speaker 1: The Chargers are sort of interesting to me. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you look at the eight four same record as the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: They've won for their last five games. However, they haven't
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  Speaker 1: really played too many good teams. And then their last
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  Speaker 1: two losses they lost they got killed by a Jaguars team,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know before that was Week seven against
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  Speaker 1: the Colts and they lost that by double digits as well.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know what jumps out on tape from
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  Speaker 1: you overall about them, but to me, I watched a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and I found them a weird team to
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  Speaker 1: try to figure out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I actually think when you watch their tape,
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  Speaker 4: you come away feeling that they're pretty good team on
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  Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. The eye test right now
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  Speaker 4: tells you that they're better than the Eagles, But we'll
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  Speaker 4: find out when they play the game. I think that
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  Speaker 4: they're Look, they haven't. We'll get into this. They have
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  Speaker 4: an offensive line that right now, I'm sure other than Becton,
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  Speaker 4: nobody could name in Philadelphia the the other four offensive linemen,
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  Speaker 4: you know, So that is obviously a concern. Look, the
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  Speaker 4: run game is I don't know is Omari and Hampton
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  Speaker 4: do to be back this week?
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  Speaker 3: That looking good? He on Friday, he got a lot,
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  Speaker 3: He got more work on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: So it's taking good. And we'll get into their run
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  Speaker 4: game because it's very multiple and very diverse. It's Greg Roman.
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  Speaker 4: They do a lot of things. Obviously, they've got a
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  Speaker 4: quarterback that if you speak to anybody in the league
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  Speaker 4: would tell you he's a top five quarterback in the league,
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  Speaker 4: just in terms of the way he plays and the
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  Speaker 4: size and the ability, and their defense under Jesse minter
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  Speaker 4: Is is not an easy defense to play against. They've
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  Speaker 4: got a lot of multi dimensional players who can line
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  Speaker 4: up in a lot of different spots and cause problems.
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  Speaker 4: So it's an odd team, Jeff, as you said, in
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  Speaker 4: the sense that you know, sometimes when they lose, they
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  Speaker 4: lose big, and you wonder how did that happen? But
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  Speaker 4: when you just look at their tape, you get and
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  Speaker 4: it's funny. I watched their tape later in the week
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  Speaker 4: this week, you know, closer to when we're doing our
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  Speaker 4: our talk here, and you know, again, I came away
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  Speaker 4: feeling like, this is a pretty good team, and the
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  Speaker 4: tape kind of tells me that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just had a hard time And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how many watch games obviously watched the last one
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  Speaker 1: I just had a hard time with in my head
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  Speaker 1: with Yeah, but it's the Raiders, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: And you shouldn't do that. I mean, the Raiders have
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  Speaker 1: NFL players, but I kept trying to say, would that
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  Speaker 1: happen if it were again, there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: third and long conversions that I thought we were well
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  Speaker 1: done by the.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, they have the third the second best
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  Speaker 4: third down conversion team in the NFL. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're they're they're pretty good at that, and
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  Speaker 4: they're and they're very good on defense on third down
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  Speaker 4: as well, So you know, it's like I said, it's
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  Speaker 4: and I've watched them pretty all the obviously I watched
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  Speaker 4: the game against the Raiders when I've seen them all
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  Speaker 4: year long. So they're they're they can be very good
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  Speaker 4: any given week because they've got good players. If they're
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  Speaker 4: coached well, you can see what they do schematically. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you're not guessing as to what they are. You know,
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  Speaker 4: there's an identity, you know, a word that is kind
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  Speaker 4: of cliched, but I mean, you see, you see on
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  Speaker 4: tape what they are.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Adam, really, I just want to get your take
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  Speaker 1: on this because to Greg's point or to my combined
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  Speaker 1: points here, a couple of weeks ago, when the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: were going to play Dallas in that big game. Dallas
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  Speaker 1: had a new look and had just beat the Raiders,
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  Speaker 1: and the point a lot of people were.
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  Speaker 2: Saying was who cares, it's the Raiders. They stink.
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  Speaker 1: But then Dallas went and overcame a huge deficit and
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  Speaker 1: beat the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: So that's where I was reconciling.
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  Speaker 1: But it was just the Raiders that they beat versus
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  Speaker 1: what Greg is saying is that they're a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: team though, like.
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  Speaker 2: You can't scount what they've got.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to add this and then I'll
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  Speaker 3: add something else that's a little different from the main
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  Speaker 3: talk here. But Hampton they have till Monday, actually at
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  Speaker 3: four pm Eastern. It's very odd. They have odd rules
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  Speaker 3: like when you play on Sunday, you have to make
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  Speaker 3: the decision on your roster the day before. On Monday
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  Speaker 3: night games you can make it the day out. Same
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  Speaker 3: with Thursday night games. Just the way that they do it,
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  Speaker 3: all right. So the so, yeah, we're gonna get into
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  Speaker 3: I know because Greg will love to talk about Hamley
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  Speaker 3: the linebacker. I mean, I know he's think about the
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  Speaker 3: charges because they're so under the radar. It remind me,
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  Speaker 3: Jeff of like the text rangers of the team that
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  Speaker 3: time has forgotten. People don't really follow them, but they're
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  Speaker 3: this small cult following, right, Like for those of us
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  Speaker 3: who are a little bit over fifty might remember John Jefferson,
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  Speaker 3: West Chandler and Chuck Muncy and Dan Fouts, right, and
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  Speaker 3: of course Kellen Winslow. But you know, if you go
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  Speaker 3: to their defense and Greg talked, this scheme is phenomenal
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  Speaker 3: that Jesse Minter and his dad Rick is really you
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  Speaker 3: might remember his dad Rick was on Chip Kelly staff.
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  Speaker 3: He's on Jesse staff as like a senior defensive asistant.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a lot of disguise. Man, It's it's h
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  Speaker 3: If you look at the talent, if you look at
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  Speaker 3: ja heap Still and some of the other guys, and
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  Speaker 3: Moulden's an interesting player, you go, how is this happening? Well,
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  Speaker 3: great scheme and great execution, and Greg will get into
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  Speaker 3: that obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk real quick because Greg mentioned that most
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  Speaker 1: people in Philadelphia couldn't name a single offensive linement.
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  Speaker 2: That they've got outside of Makai Becton. And guess what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. Mackai Becton is not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk to the Greg about it too, But
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  Speaker 1: for me, what's your understanding of Becton status with with
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: As far as playing in this game or.
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  Speaker 5: He's been hit and out of there's he's healthy, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's they're tackles, I mean, they they're the only we
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  Speaker 5: know the tackles are out for the season, the left
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  Speaker 5: and right tackles, which has been a problem for them,
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  Speaker 5: No question about that.
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  Speaker 2: No, he backed in.
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  Speaker 3: You're right though, he's been on and off the injury,
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  Speaker 3: but he was on a lot earlier in the season.
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  Speaker 3: But no, he's good to go. He's not even on
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  Speaker 3: this week.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're they're they're a line from left to right
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  Speaker 4: in the last game, which has been pretty much their
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  Speaker 4: O line for the last number of weeks. From left
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  Speaker 4: to right is Salyer, Johnson, Boseman, Beckton, and Pipkins. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, Sallyer is not truly an NFL tackle. He's
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  Speaker 4: really much more of a guard. But you know, they're
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  Speaker 4: this is who they're playing, and you know they you
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  Speaker 4: got to line up and play.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I was by the way to Beckton kind
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  Speaker 1: of talking. I know he said to reporters out there
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  Speaker 1: that he made a comment about I'm trying to stay
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  Speaker 1: healthy and finish every game if I'm allowed, because they were,
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  Speaker 1: they were pulling them off the field at times. And
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  Speaker 1: then he had a little bit of a issue on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline of a game. So it seems like it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a rocky relationship there.
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  Speaker 2: He started, Yeah, I mean, he he started. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: did start.
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  Speaker 3: But by the way they they by contract structure, it's
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  Speaker 3: really a one year deal. It's a multi year deal,
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  Speaker 3: but they can get out of it easily. So they've
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  Speaker 3: actually guys, they've started four left tackles this season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Petting started. Who's not a left tackle. The Saints learned
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  Speaker 3: that the hard way, deculous, so they get acquired into
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  Speaker 3: a trade salary. He just talked about who's got He
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  Speaker 3: did play a little left tackle early in his career
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  Speaker 3: at Georgia, and obviously you know some of the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: players because he was with them Georgia, right, And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean they've they've actually again, they've started four guys.
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  Speaker 3: So and of course a Slaters after the season is
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  Speaker 3: the fourth guy. And it's tough, man, when you're down
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  Speaker 3: your tackles and they're right and four that's actually off. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: how many teams could survive that.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been saying on you know I do this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Greg does. I do a kind
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  Speaker 1: of a look around the NFL every weekend show where
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  Speaker 1: I analyze the matchups based on what I think I know,
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  Speaker 1: and I have sort of predicted that a slide was
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  Speaker 1: eventually going to come for the Chargers because I just
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  Speaker 1: don't see how you can operate, especially the way they
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  Speaker 1: want to play, when you lose two guys like Rashaun
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  Speaker 1: Slater and Joel And it hasn't happened yet, but they
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  Speaker 1: certainly have a very difficult schedule. After the Eagles, they'll
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  Speaker 1: play the Chiefs, then the Cowboys, then the Texans and
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  Speaker 1: then the Broncos. So I mean, they could very easily
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  Speaker 1: lose all five. I mean, I'm not saying that's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen, but those are five tough games in a
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  Speaker 1: row for a team that you know will get O'marian
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  Speaker 1: Hampton back and maybe against the Eagles, but also is
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  Speaker 1: going to want to do things that it probably won't
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  Speaker 1: be able to do, and that might start on Monday
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  Speaker 1: night against the Eagles. This is a game where in
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  Speaker 1: the past, if we were analyzing the game we would
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  Speaker 1: say you're down your top two starting offensive tackles and
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  Speaker 1: your interior line isn't that good to begin with.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles are about to kick your ass. That's what
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  Speaker 2: we would say.
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  Speaker 1: It hasn't always happened that way this year, but you
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  Speaker 1: have to think the Eagles have a the advantage in
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  Speaker 1: the trenches on personnel and b.
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  Speaker 2: Greg also you can speak to this, you have to.
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  Speaker 1: I would have to think there's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: an under center element of the Chargers offense because they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna when Justin Herbert came back with his hand wrapped
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  Speaker 1: right exclusively a shotgun team or right pistol, but no
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  Speaker 1: under center.
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  Speaker 4: They still ran the ball pretty well and they're going
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  Speaker 4: to try to run the ball. They're very creative. Greg
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  Speaker 4: Roman has always been like this. Look, twenty one percent
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  Speaker 4: of their snaps this year, which is a high number,
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  Speaker 4: have have come out of twenty one and twenty two personnel.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's he's basically recreated Greg Roman. That is,
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  Speaker 4: I'm speaking recreated with the Chargers what he did with
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  Speaker 4: the Ravens with Patrick Card. So now he has Scott Mattlocke,
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  Speaker 4: who's a converted defensive tackle who was you know, played
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  Speaker 4: in the Mountain West and he's basically their full back,
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  Speaker 4: so he plays, you know, anywhere from eighteen to twenty
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  Speaker 4: five snaps a game. They've got a tight end named
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  Speaker 4: Fisk who is purely a blocker, not really a receiver
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  Speaker 4: at all. I mean he played twenty six snaps this week.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they have obviously other tight ends who are
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  Speaker 4: receiving tight ends like Conkland and Gadsden, But this is
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  Speaker 4: a team that is really multiple and diverse in their
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  Speaker 4: run game concepts, and they're not easy to play against because.
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  Speaker 3: Of that, Jeff, what will happen if Fisk has an injury.
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  Speaker 3: He's the only one other than Herbert that has, you know,
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  Speaker 3: some concern whether it's going to play. But Fisk did
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  Speaker 3: not has not practice this week. And what'll what they'll
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  Speaker 3: do is because he's paid way too much money to
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  Speaker 3: be an active Will Disley replacements the white tight end? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: well Disley's making five million bucks and he doesn't even play.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah better, And you know, they they have a lot
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  Speaker 4: of tight ends, and this is the way they played
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  Speaker 4: the way they want to play. This is I mean,
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  Speaker 4: when you bring gring Roman in, this is what you
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  Speaker 4: get is he's really good at this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So interesting fact about the Chargers is that if you
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  Speaker 1: just looked at their season total, they've passed the ball
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  Speaker 1: more this year than they have in the past. However,
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  Speaker 1: if you narrow the scope to the last five weeks,
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  Speaker 1: they have the third most rushing attempts in the league
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  Speaker 1: and eighth most rushing yards and that's without Omarian Hampton.
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  Speaker 1: So if you add Hampton, combined it with what you've
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  Speaker 1: seen from Kamani Vidal, who's got a lot of juice, right,
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  Speaker 1: A guy that they actually cut and then brought back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeahas had a nice season.
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  Speaker 1: That's a nice little thunder and lightning kind of tandem.
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  Speaker 2: Adam, you have to think that.
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  Speaker 1: I think sometimes fans think that, like they see what
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  Speaker 1: happened in the last game and they project, like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't expect the Chargers to come out and run ninety
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  Speaker 1: percent outside zone because that's not what they normally. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do what they do best. But given what they
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  Speaker 1: saw on tape, I'm sure they're going to attack the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles knowing a they struggled last week and be no
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, I mean you and see that the hand
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  Speaker 1: injury for for Herbert, you have to think that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to try to really rely on this ground game.
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  Speaker 3: Well that and then they got because Hampton's barely played,
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  Speaker 3: they got to figure out what he does best. Obviously
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  Speaker 3: they go by the college tape. They're all season program preseason,
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  Speaker 3: but it if Hampton returns, like he probably will if
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  Speaker 3: he's in, if he's playing, he adds some juice to
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  Speaker 3: this thing, man, because Vanal has been a great story.
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  Speaker 3: He's five, a's built. It's really interesting. You I thought
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  Speaker 3: he was maybe five eight two hundred. No, he's like
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  Speaker 3: closer to two fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just sure.
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  Speaker 3: He's not little, No, he's not tall, but he's built,
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  Speaker 3: Greg and he's got some juice. Man, this kid has been.
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  Speaker 2: A good story.
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  Speaker 3: He's Boston Scott but Wheels. I got Wheels though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: way better.
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  Speaker 2: I like that he's short.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean the other thing too, is I mean
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  Speaker 4: as long as we're talking now we're getting into the matchup. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think it's not very good receivers, and
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  Speaker 4: they're there are times they'll play with four wide receivers.
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  Speaker 4: They've played forty six snaps this year in ten personnel
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: where they line up with four wide receivers. That's a
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: lot of snaps to play with four wide receivers in
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: the league, so they're pretty diverse in what they do
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: on offense. Adam made a great point though, for the
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: first five six games of the season, they were dropping
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: back Herbert way too much, way too much, And over
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: the last three four weeks they've cut back on that
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: and really tried to run the ball more, which is smart.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: If you're playing with backup tackles, you want those guys
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: to be proactive moving forward. You don't want them to
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: spend forty five snaps a game being reactive to players
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: who are better than they are.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, Jeff, what they're doing is they're
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: playing to their personnel right yep. Into the interior. You're
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: either pretty good, you know, Bozeman's been around a long time,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Zion Johnson of course spectin. But you're asking guys who
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be playing. Pipkins is actually he's been starting for
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: he's been a starter before. He's played mostly right tack,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: a little bit of guard. But asking it because again,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: they're going they're going through a lot of guys at
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: left tackle. You got to be careful and Herbert's got
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: the injury and Greg Romano talking to guys the front
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: offs people over the years, he's so unpredictable. Greg just
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: gave it out. You don't quite know what you're gonna get.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: You know, they want to run the ball. That that's obvious.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: He's given no matter where he's been. If you're coaching
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: for hardball, go back to the twelve Super Bowl run,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: They're gonna run the football. But he also likes to
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: throw a curveball. He likes a lot of different formations.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: And I want to I want to get back to
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Greg and a second on Trey Harris and McConkie and Gadsden.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Jeff, I missed him in Fantasy.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, well, my man Tyler conference there, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: guess he'll be Nope, it's Gadsden junior, so Jeff, They've
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: got a lot of talent here. But I definitely want
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: to get Greg's at Pinal, Trey Harrison this this past target.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's starting to play more snaps obviously not
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: been featured in the past game because they have Keenan Allen,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: who's got the most third down targets and third down
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: receptions in the league, and is really obviously a very
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: reliable player. Conky is a really good player. You know,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Johnston's come on a bit this year, so he's so.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Harris is kind of the fourth guy, but you know
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: he's long, he can run. I wouldn't call him a burner,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: but he can run. So you know, so he does play,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: but he's not He's not the guy by any means,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: but they'll play him.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I mean he does.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: He had a key catch last week in a critical situation.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: You know, he's not a volume target by any means.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Jeff.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: One thing I would add on on lad McConkey.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: And this is going back since two thousand and two.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: There are there were better receivers at the Sunion Bowl,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: the best shoot air of quickness.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Lab McConkie.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I was because I asked the receivers coach too I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: need to look at today, and gave me the list.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I'd heard of mccaukey, but I didn't know a lot.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I didn't do a lot of work on the prior
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to that. He goes, you're gonna like mccakey, but he did.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: He wouldn't give it. He just he goes, I want
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: to know what you see I'm not going to give
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: you any cliff notes. My mouth dropped. You were there.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: This was mind blowing the way that he moved a
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: short area number his numbers great.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I love mcconki coming out. I see what he is
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: for what he is now it is, you know what.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't think he had a weakness for what he is,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: and I remember getting ripped on social media because I
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: said that. People said, well, he can't go up and
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: make him tested catches. Well, no kidding, but that's not
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: what he is. No one's gonna ask him to do that,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean Johnston, Yeah, you know. So that's
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: like saying, well, you know Jared Goff, you know he's
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I don't like him because he's not a playmaker. Well, yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: no kidding, can't do that.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: They're not going to ask him to.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Do Yeah, you know.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: So mcconki for what he is is really really good.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: To your point, Greg, When Adam and I went to
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl that year, I remember going in thinking
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: to myself that he was probably at the skill set
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: of a really good slot receiver in the NFL, and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: then leaving thinking he probably could line up and Z
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and still get it. He's not an ex just like
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you're saying. He's a big, tall, physical guy. But I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: thought he could create mismatches from from the Z spot
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and it's looked like Greg move, Greg Roman will move,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: send guys in motion, change who's won, who's two.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And so?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's good, by the way, Greg Roman, Atlantic
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: city guy.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he's a Jersey guy. Yeah, Coach Roman, he is.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: He's he's been for the man. He's been for a
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: lot in his career.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Stand San Francisco, he was on. He was the offensive coordinator.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was the one.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was the one.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was VI. It was it was about it
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: was vic DC and Roman was the O.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: That's right about that.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Funny they did they use a fullback that year? I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: think they did, but I can't remember who it was.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: We're talking about what the year they went to the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when they played the Ravens and the Super Bowl
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: went out. But that was the year that of very
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you know, Frank wre was great, right, Kaepernick I think
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: was the Yeah, they were doing all sorts of movement
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: quarterback stuff.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: They killed the Packers that well.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: That's when it was all new with his own read
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: and people weren't sure how to defend it because that
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: was the year. I think in the playoffs Kaepernick against
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: the Packers did like one hundred and seventy five yards
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: or something like that.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Ran for two hundred and passed for two hundred. Yes, crazy, Bryce,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: do you remember the name Bryce Miller? Was a Bryce Miller?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: That sounds familiar? Twenty nine.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about the full back. Yeah, because you
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: asked like it could be you could be right. That
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: name's first name, I'm guessing was Bryce.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Was Bruce Miller.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Bruce Miller, Okay, it was with a big It was
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Bruce Miller.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Frank Morer. Was very good for him.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Vick had a great Vic had Alden Smith and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Bruce Smith and they were just killing everybody.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: It was Yeah, I'm looking at the roster right now. Smith,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Justin Smith. Miller number forty nine was the fullback.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: You are correct, Yeah, yeah, hard hitting Dante Whittner back
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: there and then he remember that Hittner. He had Navarro Bowman,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he had Patrick willis Man. He had a defense.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Anyway, Smith, who a lot of people thought would have
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: been unbelievably great if he didn't have, you know, personal
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: issues Hall of Famers.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's excellent.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: They have one more guy in that D line that
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I can't think of on the.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: D line McDonald, Isaac Sopoaga, Justin Smith.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Justin Smith and Alden Smith were the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: main guy. I thought there was a third guy in there.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So Puago is a run stuffer who would come to
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: better I'm Brooks, I'm Od Brooks. Yeah, Mod Brooks.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: They actually changed positions with them. Yeah. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 2: All right, so Adam, let's talk about the injury situation.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: We already talked about it. No resawan, slater, no jolt.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: That's been the case for a while. They've got backups.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: They've been juggling some offensive tackles. Looks like they settled
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: on this guy left tackle who's name I have trouble
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Jamari Salar, Salar, I want to say, but you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you know, mixed up Sally.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Wow, it's spelled y e R, But I just so
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I know it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: It's Salary. He's the Georgia kid. Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he actually played left tackle in his career. But
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Greg's right. If you saw the way he's built, he's
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: not a left tackle, he's like a guard right. But
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you know what, if it's not working, Coaches when they
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: don't like what they see, they keep changing right and
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Greg you both talked about it's really hard and Greg
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Roman's doing a great job of making this thing work.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: And it's it's fascinating because we'll get to the eagle
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: stuff of Jalen Carter and how that's gonna work out there.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: There there's a lot of intrigue on how guys who
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: are gonna be feeling and are gonna be used, or
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: what's Hampton gonna look like, how they was gonna handle
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: their situations. T tackle, which we'll get into, and left
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: tack for the Chargers. We know what right tackle is,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: pick Pipkins. That's not changing left tackles is interesting?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Would you use that word, Greg? Interesting?
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Well, look, they know what they have and he's obviously not.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: You know, he's not a left tackle and you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: so you know you have to work around it. I mean,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: that's who they have to play. This is what they're
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: down to, you know. I mean, it is what it is.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: You know, So they work around it and they'll go
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: from there.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: That's why they're not going to drop back by choice
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: forty five times unless it's an odd game, and then
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: you know they're forced to do that, but that will
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: not be their approach.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Adam, and you know what other injuries do? We have
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: to be aware of the Chargers if.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Any nothing, that's it. Tucker Fisk, who's their why tt
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: end means in line tight end, Will Disley, who all
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: of a sudden doesn't really because they have some of
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: They've got three athletic guys and one guy who really
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: blocks well actually they I athleticism sometimes is up to interpretation,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: but Fisk is just a why tight end. As Greg's
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: talking about it, sos Will Disley who who It's funny
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: when the Seahawks I think they drafted him. I know
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: he was with Sea I don't know if he was
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: in a draft for if he was drafted, but anyway,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I remember when they got the I thought there was
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: no way he'll do anything with block. He scored a
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: bunch of touchdowns on his career, then he got hurt.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: But he can block, and that's why he's there. But
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: he got usurped by Tucker Fisk and that's where it's at.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's switch sides here. The Philadelphia Eagles,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: they're not in great shape. You know, they've been without
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Lane Johnson that hasn't been great, and of course they're
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: going to be without Jalen Carter.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: He went through these procedures on his shoulders. Leave it
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the PRP.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I forget what is a plasma replacement. I forget what
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the acronym stands for.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: But it could be a couple of weeks.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I had this story on when to
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Marco Murray had it in twenty ten years ago, twenty fifteen,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: and I was told then, I said, you know, what's
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: the ballpark? And they said, it's it's when he feels right,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: when it when when it's when the whatever he's got
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: going on. But Jeff, you know, on our reporting, since
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: we're doing the Eagles now, if Jalen Carter, we told
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: people when he was drafted there was. It wasn't a
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: concern where he'd he could play eight or ten years.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: There was concerned it's going to be chronic and it's
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: been chronics. Two was draft. He's had shoulder issues. Now,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: no one was an issue. He had a procedure on both. Yes,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: and that's not good because you hope this, whether it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: quarter zone, peer, whatever happened, you're hopeing it settles down
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: and he could be himself whenever he's ready.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Now I can't.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Imagine you guys, Maybe you guys have more information, but
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine he's just gonna miss one week with this.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: But but here's the thing. They're not putting him on
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: IR for now. They could change their mind. If they
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: put him IR, they maye he has to miss four games,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: not four weeks. It's actual games, right, they've had their
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: they've had their buy ready, so it doesn't really matter.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: But so yeah, if they put it, if they put
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: him on IR prior to Monday before the game, then
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: they clearly think he won't be back with him four weeks.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: But you got to see if it was the shots.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: If you've talked to anyone who's had a quarter zone.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: It's gotta it's gotta where anyone's ever had any kind
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: of shot. It's got to settle down. He's got to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: be able to do his job. He's got to get
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: clear for contact. He's gonna have to rip and shed
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: and all that stuff. And let's get Jeff and Greg.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Let's get into it because it's.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, so I assume Byron Young,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: then we'll get yes, Yes, there's someone else who's gonna
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: get snaps, will be active, and our guy.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Gabe Hall is on the practice squad. If but Vic
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: doesn't like to play a lot of d tackles, Jeff,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: as you know, doesn't like to go with it, doesn't
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: like to go with a lot of dapt feed, doesn't
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: play a lot of guys.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, this is something we have talked about
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and Greg and I were able to talk about it
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: also on inside the tape throughout the week. Is that,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you know, VIC may have to come out of the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: comfort zone a little bit because guys like Moro Ajomo
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and Jordan Davis, even if Jillen Carter was healthy for
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: this game, those guys have played almost twice as many
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: snaps already this year. Percentage wise as they were playing
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: last year. And we won't know, but I mean, you
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: could certainly draw a line between how they've been playing
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the last two weeks, getting moved off the ball and such,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and the extra workload. And I know Greg pointed out
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that there were times Jordan Davis was playing high again.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: And listen, he's had a good year. He's had a
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: very good year.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But if you're asking somebody to take on an extra workload,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and now it's got to be even more extra, right
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: without Jaln Carter, then you know, I mean, it's just
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: logic in my head, I can't be vic Fangio.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Davis has played Adam Davis has played four hundred ninety
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: nine snaps, which is sixty two percent of their snaps.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, now after playing last year.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you drafted him to do that, obviously because you
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: traded up to get him. But that's a lot of snaps,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: and you know, as the season progresses, we'll see. I mean,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: he's played very well for the most part. We all
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: agree that tape tells you that we're not making you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: it's no interpretation. He's played well. But now with Carter out,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: what do you do? Does he play eighty five percent
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: of the snaps or are you having a rotation that
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: includes players who haven't played hardly at all?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Right, and Tyl Robinson's real role and he's he needs
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: more time. He's really a full off season. He's barely
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: played some good snaps. Then Byron Young's been a nice,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: you know, decent player. Yeah, and then Gabe Hall. There's
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: a reason why they cut he passed the practice passed
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the Raivers on claim he went back to the practice squad.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: He's got great length, but they're not you, Jeff. You've
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: talked about it with the power despite the lift this.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Point, he's not a physical player at this point. That's
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: the problem.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Right, So I was the point I was making was
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that even if Jayal and Carter were healthy, I think
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it would behoove the Eagles and Vic not that he
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: listens to me to start rotating a little bit more
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: as the season is going to take some to get
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: his guys fresh again.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: But that's really not his history. It's almost like now
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: he has to be forced into it by the injury.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: And there's also a momentum in a season. It'd be
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: one thing if this team was playing great football and
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: you're feeling pretty good, then maybe you feel, hey, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: can play Jordan Davis ten or twelve less snaps and
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: you know, well, but now with the way the season
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: is progressing, because they're a team, we can't just say, oh,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: the offense isn't good.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: They're a team. The way the.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Team is moving right now, things are not going particularly well. Well,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: everything becomes magnified, every play becomes magnified. You've got to
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: try to get back on track. So you think to yourself,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I want to put my best guys out there, so
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: that's what.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: You do, you know.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting to see what they do because
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: there's no question that the Chargers will look to run
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: the ball. Whether they have success will dictate how much
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: volume they can run, but they do want to try
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: to run the ball.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Greg, how would you describe And I know it's been
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: several weeks. Right before he got hurt. The game before
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: he got hurt, Hampton had his first one hundred yard game,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: hunting four yard. So after a little bit of a
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: slow start, they were mixing him in. You know, they
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Hadna g Harris, who's now out for the year with
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the Achilles, who's been out for the year. How would
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you describe his running style as you were watching him
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and then compare it to Kamani Videl.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I think they're different.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Hampton to me, I'm going to
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: pull up because I really liked him coming out. In fact,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I may have been in the minority, but I didn't
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: think there was a big difference whatsoever between Hampton and Genty,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: and again on a bad team.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: So I'm not going to sit here and say, oh,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: look at Genty.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: You never know when a guy's on a bad team
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: with a bad old lion, you know, ultimately.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: You know how that's going to play out.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: But I really liked on Marion Hampton and had he
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: was fortunate enough to actually be down at North Carolina
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: at their training camp the year that he his last
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: year in college, so I saw him in person. I
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: was down there for three days. You know, I was
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: you know, pretty much was able to talk to anybody
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I wanted to. It was great experience. But Hampton, to me,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: you know, I've thought that you know, he's he's a
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: physical physical traits and running mentality made me think that
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: this guy is a feature back in the league. He's
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: got size, he's got burst, he's got speed, not not
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: terrifying speed like at Gibbs, but speed. He's physical, he's powerful.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: He had a physical presence as a runner.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: He kind of reminded me in many ways of another
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: North Carolina back who's having a great year this year,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: and that's Devonte Williams, you know there, and and Hampton
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: was two twenty one at the combine. So he's not
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: a little guy. So I really liked him. I thought
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: that early in the season he was trying to he
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: was learning the NFL, you know, trying to figure out
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: how to run, because it's different when you're when you're
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: in a spread offense in college, and then you get
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: to the NFL and a Greg Roman offense, which is
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: not a spread offense, so there's more bodies. You've got
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: to figure out how to run, you know, it's it's different.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: So I thought he was figuring that out and again
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: coming missing so many games. Now I couldn't tell you
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: if he plays Monday night what it looked like. But
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: I think he has everything it takes to be a
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: foundation back in the league.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Jeff, he had a broken left ankle. He's been outing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: He got hurt in week five, so he went on
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I are week six. So yeah, he just adds. I mean,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: for a team that wants to run the football, you
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: can get him in a doll.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: It's funny.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Last week, my man Jared Patterson, he might remember him
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: from the Commanders. Yeah, little guys Boston scotted Patterson's belt
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: like Boston scott a little fire hundred, you know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they got three guys that they can
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and this is amazing because they have lost two running backs.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: They lost they lost Najie Harris, who I don't think
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: any any of us really think is all that great,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: but still he was a guy that there was gonna
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: be play a role. And then Hassan Haskins, who was
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: with Jim Harbaugh at Michigan. If I'm not mistaken, he
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: was actor to the plan.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: So they're really you know.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Like I said, Kimani Fidell was a guy they cut
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and then back and he's had success.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Haskins just so you know, he started practicing this week.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: He was designated for return.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: He was out.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Uh he's actually been out a while too. He's been
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: out since Week eight, so he could play. So so
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: they went from not having any depth to they could
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: have plenty of guys and it could be really interesting
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Monday night.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we know what they're gonna do on offense. The
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: question is can they do it with success?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Right? You know? Can they And when they do have
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to throw.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Can they protect? I mean that's the bottom line.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you have percentages on there, Greg,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: but when I watch it looks like they are not
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a predominant inside zone predominant outside zone.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: They seem to mix it fairly well. I thought they
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: ran well there.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Umber one run is outside zone percentage wise. Inside zone
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: is a close second. Power is, which is a gap
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: scheme run. They actually lead the league in percentage of
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: running power, but it's not a super high percentage. So
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: the point is is they're very multiple. They ran trapped
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: this week, they ran pin poll this week. They do
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: this under you know, they're not to me again obviously
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: the Eagles defensive staff, they have a lot of people
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: doing work on one person. But they strike me as
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: a team that is very multiple with their run game concepts.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: They're not a team to me that is you know,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: just oh this is what we do and this is
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: the run we do. They're they're going to be very
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: multiple with their concepts.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: So Jeff a GM gave me this back or his
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl run with the Niners. Romans most sophisticated run
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: game he'd ever seen. He said, sophisticated was the word
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: and places what Greg's talking about they do. It's just diverse.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: They do a lot of different a lot of things,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: and it's somewhat unorthodox would be maybe a word. I mean,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and I love that, Scott Matt Locke. It's just funny.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Patrick Recard, I mean, you see, it's just this is
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the way the guy thinks. He's a different thinker, Greg Roman.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't surprise me if.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: If they try to split the difference a little bit
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: from an offensive philosophy and try to play more pistol,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: because that would at least it helps eliminate.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: The tell of the running back direction.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shotgun so and I believe they've played some pistols,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: so it wouldn't surprise me if maybe they leaned a
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: little bit more on that.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just to pretty.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Much everybody believes your run game, the pistol gives you
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: a lot more diversity in your run game than than
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: shotgun does.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Right, Where does McConkie usually line up. Is he more
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: slot or Z or both or field side. There's obviously
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: not a boundary receiver, right.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: No, No, No, he's he's They move him around a lot.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's you know, their offenses like that, it's
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: not necessarily specific. One guy lines up here. I would
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: say the boundary X would be predominantly Johnston because he's
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: you know, he's that guy in terms of his size.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: You know, Alan lines up everywhere. He's another side guy,
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: another movement guy. But yeah, they they do pretty much everything.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's there's not one thing they do. They're
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: they're they're pretty multiple.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Jeff. One thing on Keenan Allen. I remember Keenan Allen.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Uh he talked about when Kellen Moore coached him a
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago. He said he'd never been moved
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: around so much. That's before Keenan got hurt. But Greg
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: was talking about it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It's not like, Okay, he's just a slot receiver. It's
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: it's different, and that's Roman sees it differently.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: He's he's a very interesting play caller, and they've got
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: a really good pass target group. It's been much better
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: now that it had been in years in Gadsden. My goodness, gracious,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: can he move for it? You can call the tight end.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: He's a really big receiver.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: But anyway, now, just so you know, mc conki is
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: predominantly inside, but there's a lot of movement to that. Like,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: for instance, in terms of routes, uh run routes, he's
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: got the third highest run routes from from the slot.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: But he doesn't just line up in one place. He'll
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: he will line up obviously in the slot, but he'll
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: also move and end up there. So he but he
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: is I would say, predominantly a slot receiver.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: So courtesy of my colleague gets Philly Voyce Jimmy Kemsky,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the Chargers are the only team in the NFL that
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: has four receivers with five hundred or more receiving yards.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: So that shows you about the a the lack of
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a or need for them of a number one elite
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: like this is my number one guy, the diversity and
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: depth of their wide receiver group. And I think where
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: that helps against the Eagles is I can't imagine this
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: is a game where Vic Fangio is gonna say, all right, Quinyon,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: you're gonna follow this guy because they're.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Right the movement.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: He's probably gonna keep them on the boundary against Quintin Johnson.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: And what Greg Roman might do is just have Quinton
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Johnson run a bunch of deep routes to get Quinja
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Mitchell out of there and then try to work the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: other side of the field against the Dori Jackson, against
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Cooper de gen Conki and with with Keenan Allen and
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Trey Harris.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Well, the interesting thing is if they when they play man,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: and this team's played a lot more man than we
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: anticipate at the beginning of the season. The Eagles I'm
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: talking about is who matches up to Gaston, who is
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: one of the guys with over five hundred receiving yards
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: very surprisingly, you know so because he's kind of a
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: big wide receiver.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And in.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: That case they're almost like going five wide when they
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: have him out there, or yeah, four wide. With three
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: receivers in one tight end.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: They can spread the out chef. And this is where
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: you know you worry about the Eagle's death a corner.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: It's just this is and they take me quite frankly,
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say that, Oh yeah, how could I
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: think it as good as the player he is is
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: not a man to man match up for tight ends.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And if it is.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Marcus Epps, who could very well be the starter, he's
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: not really that guy either. So you know, could this
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: impact Vick's decision to play more zone in this game?
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: You know, these are these are the chess match things
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: we don't know the answer to.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be the cat and mouse thing of
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you know, the sort of limitations that the Chargers may
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: have because of his broken hand and their inability to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: have an under center game, combined with the limitations that
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Eagles might have for their injuries with Carter Right having
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: to play, I think it's a really it's going to
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: be a really interesting strategical matchup. On the other side, Craig,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: is this the could this be a week? Is there
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: any evidence to think that this would be a week
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that Saint Quon Barkley gets going and the Eagles find
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: their run game.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, that's become an impossible question to answer,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm being honest.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Look, here's the deal with the Eagles.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: And I actually said this on the Matchup show when
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: we shot at the shot this week. People keep saying
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: they don't have an identity. They do have an identity.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: They were a running football team. They're just not very
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: good at it. And the reason and the reason that
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: the offense stops there is because they're not a drop
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: back passing team. So they don't have anything to compensate
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: for the fact that their foundation has been poor this year.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: But that is their identity. They were a running football team.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: They're just not very good at it this year. Last
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: year they were really good at it. Yep, you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: and they just don't have And you know, it's funny.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: I've talked over the years to many coaches talking about
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts, and he certainly has his strains, but he's
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: not a pure drop back passer. They don't have a
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: true drop back passing game to compensate for the fact
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: that they don't have a good run game this year.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: But that is their identity. They're running football team.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Adam, I've I think you and I have, all of us.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: We've sort of give the benefit of the doubt. We
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: know that the coaches are smart people who know what
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: they're doing. It just sometimes doesn't work. I will have
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to say, though, if the Eagles come out against the
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Chargers with something that is just the exact same game
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: plan and don't try some kind of something different. Whether
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: it's you and I have talked about, maybe you give
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: a series to Tank Bigsby because he's a pretty good
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: running back.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Any he's looked good. I know it's very limited, no
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: suggestion he should be starting. Just just get him in early.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: It's a change up, right, something different.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Or maybe you come out, maybe you come out spread
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and you try to get a quick completion.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: And speed it up.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: If they come out like the same offense for the
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: last six, seven, eight, ten, twelve A, I would be surprised. B.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I think it was such a lose faith that they
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: actually think they have an answer.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Greg.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing though, I mean, guys, Jeff and Greg,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: here's the thing though. We know they want to run
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: the football right, and they're not using Hurts as a runner.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: It's like the gun run. That's it.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: It's a gun run.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, four might go ten person on the run. Okay, great,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: he seems to run up do it, but he's not
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: a meaningful part of it like he had been. Not
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: the foundation, but a meaningful part of it. In twenty
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: two Super Bowl, run three four, not this year. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: don't have an answer what no one knows why. I
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: know Siriani is asked about that. But maybe our big
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: bring back RPOs a little bit just ching, Yes, something different,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: but something that could auction me with the football.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Whatever it is. They're endoors, Jeff.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: People listening probably know a good amount about the Eagles.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: D let's talk a little Chargers, oh, Jeff, if we could,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: let's do that, because they're really interesting defense. First of all,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: they have a number of players who line up in
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: multiple spots, and they're really good players. Like for instance,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: their base defense for the most part is big nickel,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: and that's because of Derwin James, which, by the way,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: there's a big trend in the league for big nickel.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: A lot of teams are playing big nickel as pretty
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: much a base defense. So James is almost always a
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: second level defender, but he can do anything. So now
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: what the linebackers in big nickel are predominantly Henley and Paraman.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Now Henley is another guy that lines up both off
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: the ball and on the ball. He's another multi positional player.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Now sometimes they'll play Die as the other linebacker with
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Henley because he's far more athletic than Paraman so he'll
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: play depending on down in distant situations. And then this
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: is a team that plays dime on twenty six percent
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: of their defensive snaps, the second highest.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: In the league.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: So in their big Nickel still plays outside in dimes,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Ill comes inside and is a major player in their
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: pressure packages. Tarheeb still is a really good player and
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: a really important player for them. And I remember, yeah,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: go ahead, he's been a player. And I love the
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: way Molden is there. Molden wasn't Molden a corner early
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: in his career. Well, Malden was kind of a slot
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: corner in college, but he's really become a safety in
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: the league. So he plays safety Molden and then they
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: play two safeties with him. He pretty much plays every snap.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: But they played Jefferson, who I think has been in
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: the league for fifty years, and they play Nickens, who's
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: the rookie from Clemson. So Gray Micketson by the way
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: for old timers, Yeah, so they you know, they and
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: he's a pretty good player. I liked his tape at Clemson.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: So they play a lot of guys, and they they
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: have guys who do a lot of different things. And
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I haven't even mentioned. Don't forget they can they can
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: rush the quarterback they got Mac he still can rush
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: his speed to power. He's still one of the best.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: They got who lines up outside and lines up inside.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I mean they've got players. Now, this is a pretty
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: good defense.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Eagles got the wrong toy Polo to man. They had
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Marl mal.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I mean all thing is, you know, and even inside
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: they're big. They drafted the kid from Oregon, Caldwell, who
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: plays meaningful snaps.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: He's loved.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I loved him at the Senior Bowl. By the way,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I thought it was really well for a guy who
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: was three.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: He's got light feet.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: I mean he's not quite Vitaveya, but he's kind of
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: in that, you know, that kind of thing where he's
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: got light feet for a man who's three forty right.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: And so they're this is a good defense. This is
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: not an easy defense to play against.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Listen, though, when you say a team is going to
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: be in sub package primarily and in dime twenty six percent,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: if you said that to me last year, I would
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: say the Eagle's gonna run all over that.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm not going to be on diamonds first
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: and ten, they'll be in Big Nickel.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: James is the guy you know.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I would assume they'll be in in Big Nickel
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: or dime if the Eagles are an eleven, right, right, yeah, right,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: So I would say, if I'm the Eagles, just like
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: last year, you put twelve personnel on the field and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: you go and run up against even if they're.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: In base, you probably think that you can.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Or if they're in Big Nickel, you you like your matchup,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and I would like it again, except I don't like
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: right now when the Eagles go twelve and put Greg
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Helkata on the field just to get a team in base,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: because it's not helping them. Greg Helcatar is not blocking anybody,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and neither are some of their alignment.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Right. So that's why he said, like when you.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Asked, I can't remember if you asked, or I don't
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: ask me about it? Is this the game, Barkley? Can
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: anyone answer that? I mean, and I'm just being honest,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: can anyone answer that? No, there's no way to know
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: finner answer. I mean, we can all speculate, and you know,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: like for ins of the Vice came out and said no,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: there's no way it all happen this game. And then
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Barkley runs for one point fifty, people are gonna say, well,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: you're an idiot. I mean, there's no way to know this.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Ye would do that anyway?
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right to Adam's point.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: So if the Eagles want to play twelve, because that's
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: their identity, then can we see Kim Latsu playing right?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And if we don't as well, we don't want to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: tell who cares. Greg always says this, they know when.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You're gonna run. It's not to be predictable in the
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: run because if you're better and you're stronger, and you think.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: In the last game the Eagles didn't know the Bears
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: are gonna line up and run the ball.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: At some point, come on exactly.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: So I mean, whether it's cam law too or just
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I actually like cam Lato now then,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: more than throwing Matt pryor in as the extra offensive
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: linement going jumbo.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: So there's got to be something though.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: That's the point that you can't like, repeat the same
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: thing week after week and hope that something's gonna change.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Even though every every one of us can say every
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: time we talk to a coach. They're all about their
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: process and not about the results, and if the process
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: has worked in the past.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: They're gonna double down stick to it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: And interestingly, Adam, I don't know if you saw the clip,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: but the Hard Knocks clip of Nick Siriani talking to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Brandon Graham in the bubble. Nick Sirianni is like, hey, listen,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: our process is sound. We're gonna keep doing what we do.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: And that's where I wondered about the whole the different
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: being a coach who's had a successful versus it's not succeeding.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Now, two quick points. I want to just respond to that,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: and then we can make our picks. Number one, this
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: is a game where theoretically they should be able to
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: attack on the outside because Still is a really good player.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: But then the other corners are Jackson and cam Hart.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Now they're not bad players. I wouldn't call it a
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: weakness where oh my god, these guys are bad, but
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: you would think with Smith and Brown you'd be able
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: to do some work on the outside.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Again, Dante Jackson's had a number of injuries, draft he's
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: been around. He's kind of a journeyman thirty years old,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: and he's a guy that you've probably got terrible, not
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: been bad. He was actually a pretty good player very
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: early scr Carolina.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: But just to then to respond to your point before
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: we make our picks, that to me from speaking to
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: coaches through the years, is the toughest thing for a coach.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I know fans think, oh, they got to do something different.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: We know that, and I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: just saying that when you've been successful, I mean they're
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: super Bowl champions, Okay, when you've been successful, you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: it's really difficult to determine when you should change. That's
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: a really hard thing to do. And I know, like
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: I said, fans probably think, oh, Sirianni's an idiot, Patuto's
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: an idiot. They're doing the same thing.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: And like I said, I'm not advocating one way or
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: the other. I'm just saying it's a very difficult choice
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: to make. It's not as easy as a fan thinks
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: it might be.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I understand, But Jeff, here's my issue. Yeah, everything Greg
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: saying it's right, if you've played a specific way and
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: it's helped you win a super Bowl, why change? Well, yes,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: they run the ball, incredibly well, one of the best
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: in the NFL history. But they don't anymore.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: You're not even half of those great I'm not disagreeing
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: with that, right, you got it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: It's not that you all of a sudden have to
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: be throwing the ball forty times again. But it will
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: never happen. But you've got to figure out a way.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: What can you have excellent passing personnel? I know the
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: offensive line guys has been a struggle. Even Greg has
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: pointed out an inside the tape the pass pro has
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: regressed lately, right, okay, but they can't hang their hat
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: at all. You talk about identity on the wrong game,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: they can't no matter what they try. Yes, it could,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: as Greg said, it could blow up any time. You
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: just don't you have no idea try. Here's the thing,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: and I agree with you, I'm not disagreeing with at all.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: But because of the style of player. Barkley is a
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: guy who can explode theoretically on any given play and
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: take it seventy yards for a touchdown. Barkley is not,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: you know, just one of those like sustaining backs. Hey,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: at his best, he's going to give you a file.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: He's not Kyen Williams, who's a really nice player. But
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: essentially Karen Williams gives you six seven yards, which is
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: perfectly fine in the context of the Rams offense, because
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Barkley is that guy that any time you hand him
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: in the ball, he could theoretically go seventy yards. It's
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: that even makes this decision even more difficult. But I'm
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: going to respond to that this way. This is what
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Jeff brought up. This is where you have Tank Bixby.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: You don't He's not gonna get the ball fifteen times.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: We understand that, liter.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: We're all The fact that we're having this conversation just
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: tells you how difficult a decision it is. I get it,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: but I'm right or wrong here, I know, but I
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: know I get gets wrong because they're not right.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: But it's guys, it's not hard. Yeah, you can get
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Tank Pixby a little bit more involved. Okay, he gets
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: one carry last week and you could run the football.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well they did, right, Okay.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: What's that? I think? Always?
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I know he looks look great at a limit of time.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest complication for them, Going back to
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: what we were talking about leading into this, about a
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: coach is being steeped in their philosophy and their process
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: is thirteen days ago about they were eight and two, right,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: So their impetus was not to make wholesale, radical changes,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: we have to do something. It was to just try to
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: get better at what they weren't doing well while they
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: were winning eighty games. Then you get hitting the head
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: within a five day span and lose two games. But
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: if you want to now take a step back and say,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: we're coming down the street year, we still haven't figured
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: it out and we have now lost and.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: By the way game, by the way, in the by
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: the way, in the middle of the second quarter against Dallas,
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: we would have said, man.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Boy, does this Eagles team look like the Eagles?
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: I mean they had in the second half. All I'm
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: saying is it's not. And I get believe me. You know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: we all live in the phild Off area. We get it,
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: We understand it. You know, the most passionate fans around,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: I mean they live and die with this team with
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: every single everything. We all get that. All I'm saying
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: is from being around coaches. You know it's it's not
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: an easy decision. You just nailed that, Jeff.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: They were eight and two right.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I do Seattle Radio and I
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: you know, and I did it Friday today, and you know,
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: they asked about the last game because their offense wasn't great,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: and I said, you know what, it was a game
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: that played out a certain way. And then you're just
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: trying to win the game. You know, you're not making
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: a judgment about the whole season that you're just trying
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: to win the game. And they won the game. You know,
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: every game is not pretty. Now, the Eagles offense has
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: obviously not been pretty for ninety five percent of the season.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: But your point is we can go on and on
• 53:10
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  Speaker 1: let's predict this game. This was probably the toughest game
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: of the year for me A thousand times.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Can I defer?
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: No, you gotta stick your neck out and make a pick.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: In fact, just for trying to deffer, I'm gonna make
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: you make the first pick.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Ove. Well, I got it right last week a pick
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: against the Eagles. Now, I for truthful told I was
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: gonna pick the Eagles in this game. If Carter's planning,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: he's not, So I'm going with the the Powder Blues.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Chargers twenty four to twenty.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: My player of the game. That's that's a tough one.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Man too. Lad McConkey, nice, okay, I Phil, Lad? Not
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: definitely not Phil.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I'm picking I'm picking the Chargers. I've been picking the
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Eagles every week just because I kept thinking, just like
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: you know, we talked about, and of course this will
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: be the week they're great. But I just feel like
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: watching the Chargers on tape, They're a good football team.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: I think the Eagles are not right now, which theoretically
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: could change. But I'm going Chargers in this game, and
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go Chargers twenty four to seventeen. And
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to pick Justin Herbert.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: All right, before I make my pick, Greg, what do
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: you think the line is? I love doing this with
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: you because I know you pay no attention to it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: I have no So what do you think the line is? Oh?
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Who do you think's favorite?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you think I would?
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: I mean to me, the Chargers should be favored, probably
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: because they at home, which I think factors into the
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: way people do lines, right, I have no.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Idea factors, And so what do you think the line is?
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I would say that they're favored by two and a half,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Chargers by two and a half. Yeah, yeah, Eagles by
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: two and a half. Go figure, it's.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: Still two and a half even without Carter.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: I just checked it now, it's two and a half Eagles. Yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: In fact, that's up I thought at one point I
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: saw one one, one and a half. So very interesting
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: that the Eagles are favored. I'm sure that the Herbard
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: injury and uncertainty factors as well be the only thing
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. Yeah. So, admittedly I had a write
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: up for Philly Voice.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I had the Eagles winning this game until the jail
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: and Carter news broke. We don't publish it until later
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: in the week, so I changed it. I did change
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: it to the I do believe the Eagles will win
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the game if Jalen Carter were playing. Now I'm far
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: more skeptical. So I am picking the Chargers to win
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty three. I'm gonna pick two week
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Polow two two two we Polow.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Two really good player, by the way, Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Because he can rush the passer he drops in the coverage,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if you had a couple of sacks.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Even if he picked off ass that might be errant.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: While hurt is getting hit, maybe a fumble recovery. Just
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna make a big swing game, a swing
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: play in the game, and the Charger are gonna win.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: And maybe for the first time in the history of
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: us doing this show, at least virtually the last few years,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: we have all picked against the Philadelphia Eagles, which of
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: course means Eagles are gonna win by thirty.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: There's no question about that. Yeah, yes, one quick note.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: What side does Tuley Polo tow line up, do you know?
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Predominantly on the left, but he moves around, but predominantly
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: on the left.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: So which means he would go up against the right tackle.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Well, but so he goes up over left tackle. Right,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I thought I saw him up over.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: He moves around, but Khalil Mack will go against Fred
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Johnson a.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Lot too, right, All right, we'll do that too.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good Mac for the Chargers.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, that's part of a good call, Jeff.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually gonna pick Mac.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I actually picked I overthought it and thought Polo too
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: was going to feed off of something that Mac did,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: like hitting the quarterback up.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: But so that's it. We have all picked against the Eagles.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Here maybe the first time in the history of Inside
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the Birds pregame show for Greg Cosell and Adam Kaplan.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Mosher.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: We'll catch you all on the next one.