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John Rich on Why Joel Osteen Won’t Preach About the End Times · Gil I Am

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  Speaker 1: Joe Lostein is never going to say anything that's going
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  Speaker 1: to make anybody uncomfortable, ever on any level. Ever, he said,
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  Speaker 1: I destroyed it the first time with water. The last time,
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  Speaker 1: I'll destroy it with fire. And the disciples ask him, Lord,
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  Speaker 1: what will be the sign of your coming?
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  Speaker 2: God?
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't put make us go through something like that? And
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  Speaker 1: to them, I say, really, why don't you go tell
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  Speaker 1: that to the underground Christians and communist China right now
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  Speaker 1: who are being killed by the thousands. Why don't you
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  Speaker 1: go tell that to the Christians in Syria right now
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  Speaker 1: who are being chopped up into pieces in the streets.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think fat, lazy American Christians are better than them?
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  Speaker 1: And before I get into this, I would like to
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  Speaker 1: say that any any Christian listening to this, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter if you think I'm right about what I'm about
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  Speaker 1: to say or you think you're right about what you say.
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  Speaker 2: As far as your salvation is concerned.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to go to Heaven or Hell based
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  Speaker 1: on if you are right or wrong on this subject.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with that.
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  Speaker 1: There was a preacher named John Darby a few hundred
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and he came with the angle at the
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  Speaker 1: end times that the rapture would happen. The rapture meaning
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  Speaker 1: when whoever's left here on Earth that are still actually
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  Speaker 1: real Christians will be pulled up off this earth before
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  Speaker 1: God completely destroys it with fire with wrath. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I destroyed it the first time with water. The last time,
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  Speaker 1: I'll destroy it with fire. So before he brings his
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  Speaker 1: wrath down to that level, he will pull whoever's left
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  Speaker 1: the remnant, as they're referred to, out of here. Dispensationalism
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  Speaker 1: comes in and says that that rapture that we refer
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  Speaker 1: to will happen prior to all the really really traumatic
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  Speaker 1: things are going to happen in the earth during the
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  Speaker 1: great tribulation that has been laid out in Daniel and
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  Speaker 1: Matthew twenty four and Second Thessalonians two, and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of other places. It's been talked about, they say, John
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  Speaker 1: Darby and then Schofield wrote the Bible that backed it up,
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  Speaker 1: backed up Darby's angle. At this the rapture could happen
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  Speaker 1: at any second, the rapture. They would go to the
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  Speaker 1: churches and they would say the rapture could happen before
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  Speaker 1: this church service is over. So you better get right
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  Speaker 1: right now because it could happen like that and the
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  Speaker 1: blink of an eye, which is what it says.
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  Speaker 2: It does say in.
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  Speaker 1: The blink of an eye, boom, just like that. So
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  Speaker 1: what that led to was mass revival. I mean, people
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  Speaker 1: were like, I don't want to get left behind. Remember
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  Speaker 1: the left behind books. And so a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: got saved and a lot of things happened that rexy
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  Speaker 1: positive things.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people got saved.
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  Speaker 1: But when you start reading about Matthew twenty four, to
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  Speaker 1: me is the one I've told most people to read.
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  Speaker 1: Matthew twenty four is where Jesus is sitting with his disciples,
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  Speaker 1: and the disciples ask him, Lord, what will be the
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  Speaker 1: sign of your coming? Meaning what's going to be going
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  Speaker 1: on on the earth before you are about ready to
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  Speaker 1: come back? And then Jesus takes the next about twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven verses of Matthew twenty four, and he says, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this will happen, and then this will happen, and then that,
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  Speaker 1: and then that, and then this and then this, and
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  Speaker 1: it's in order, just like this all the way down
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  Speaker 1: through and the further it goes into Matthew twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: the harder it gets. It gets to one point where
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  Speaker 1: it's it talks about the Son of Perdition will arrive.
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  Speaker 1: The son of Perdition is who we would refer to
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  Speaker 1: as who's going to be the Antichrist. The son of
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  Speaker 1: Perdition will show up. And it says he when he
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  Speaker 1: stands in the in the Holy Place, when he stands
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  Speaker 1: in the Holy Place, basically pronounces himself to be God.
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  Speaker 1: I am Jesus, I am God, I am whatever he's
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  Speaker 1: going to say. It tells the Christians that are still
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  Speaker 1: alive at that point to run, run, don't fight him,
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  Speaker 1: Run get out, says run to the mountains. It says,
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  Speaker 1: woe to the women who were who were with child
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  Speaker 1: or in labor, to the farm, in the field, do
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  Speaker 1: not return to your house to grab your cloak.
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  Speaker 2: Run get out. Well, that ain't the end.
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  Speaker 1: And then it continues, and it goes on and on
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  Speaker 1: and on, and after it gets way deep into that chapter,
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  Speaker 1: it says, and then you will see the sign of
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  Speaker 1: the coming of the Son of Man. Mean, that's when
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  Speaker 1: you'll see me coming back, after all this has happened,
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  Speaker 1: Then you will see me. The reason they start preaching
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  Speaker 1: that is because it's very uncomfortable for Christians to have
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  Speaker 1: to think about that. You mean, I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: go through that if I'm still here based on what
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  Speaker 1: that says.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it says.
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  Speaker 1: And then I've heard some Christians say, and even some
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  Speaker 1: preachers that have attacked me on have said God wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: make us go through something like that. God wouldn't do
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  Speaker 1: that to us. And to them, I say, really, why
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  Speaker 1: don't you go tell that to the underground Christians and
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  Speaker 1: communist China right now who are being killed by the thousands.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you go tell that to the Christians in
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  Speaker 1: Syria right now who are being chopped up into pieces
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  Speaker 1: in the streets. Do you think fat, lazy American Christians
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  Speaker 1: are better than them? No, they are superior to us.
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  Speaker 1: They are willing to worship God and be a Christian
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  Speaker 1: when it means they could die for doing it. And
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  Speaker 1: we don't have that problem in the United States. So
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  Speaker 1: to say that God would never make his people go
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  Speaker 1: through something like that is one of the most ignorant,
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  Speaker 1: spiritually ignorant things a person could say. That's number one.
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  Speaker 1: Number two is in modern churches even today, they still
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  Speaker 1: don't want there's a few, but not many. They don't
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  Speaker 1: want to preach that. Joel Olstein is never going to
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  Speaker 1: preach that. Joel Ostein is never going to say anything
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  Speaker 1: that's going to make anybody uncomfortable ever on any level. Ever,
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  Speaker 1: He's never going to say anything that would prick the
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  Speaker 1: heart or conscience of his congregation, and then offer an
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  Speaker 1: altar call like Billy Graham did when he speaks to
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  Speaker 1: truth about what Jesus said and what happens if you
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  Speaker 1: decide to go the other way, and lays out what
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  Speaker 1: hell is and lays out what Heaven is, and lays
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  Speaker 1: out what this is, and then offers an altar call
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  Speaker 1: in those stadiums of people that will come out to
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  Speaker 1: see Billy Graham, thousands of people coming down there to
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  Speaker 1: pray and give their life to Jesus. You're not going
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  Speaker 1: to see Joel Ostein do that. And there's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of other preachers like that. Here's the risk dispensationalism, and
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  Speaker 1: what I am saying the difference in the two and again,
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  Speaker 1: this is not a you're not going to go to
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  Speaker 1: even or a l based on which one you think
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  Speaker 1: is right.
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  Speaker 2: The risk is.
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  Speaker 1: When the Antichrist shows up and I'm still here, and
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  Speaker 1: I go, that's the anti Christ. When the mark of
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  Speaker 1: the Beast shows up and they're telling everybody you got
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  Speaker 1: to put this chip in your wrist or you can't
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  Speaker 1: buy or sell. When those things happen and Christians are
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  Speaker 1: still here, they're not going to believe that's the anti Christ.
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  Speaker 1: And they're not going to believe that's the mark of
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  Speaker 1: the Beast. And they're not going to believe any of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff because we're still here because if that's really
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  Speaker 1: what that was, he would have already pulled me out
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  Speaker 1: of here.
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  Speaker 2: That's the risk.
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  Speaker 1: That was part of the point of Revelation was to
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  Speaker 1: bring on that conversation, and I had it with Tucker
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  Speaker 1: Carlson to begin with, and that is a real risk.
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  Speaker 1: So I asked Christians to go read Matthew twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Go read Second Thessalonians two for yourself. Read it slowly
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  Speaker 1: and read it a few times by yourself. Just read
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  Speaker 1: it and word by word and see what I am
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  Speaker 1: saying in these and then you're going to hear preachers go,
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  Speaker 1: he was talking about seventy a d when this happened
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  Speaker 1: in that And they try to twist this thing all
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  Speaker 1: the way back to Darby and Schofield and all that,
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  Speaker 1: But just read it for yourself, because everything that needs
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  Speaker 1: to be in place for the tribulation to happen is
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  Speaker 1: now here. My dad's been preaching since the late nineteen seventies,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, John, myself, other preachers, ministers that I knew,
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  Speaker 1: none of us could understand how a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: things in Daniel and Revelation Second Testilonians too could even
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  Speaker 1: take place, Like it was like science fiction, he said, Like,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, it says you can't buy or sell anywhere
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  Speaker 1: on the Earth unless you bear the mark of the beast.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, well, how in the world, we're thinking, would
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  Speaker 1: you be able to monitor or every single person on
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  Speaker 1: the face of the earth.
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  Speaker 2: That's impossible.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds funny to us now, right, because of course
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  Speaker 1: you can monitor every single human being on the face
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  Speaker 1: of the earth. Of course, again, they're doing it right now.
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  Speaker 1: They just haven't weaponized it to that point yet.
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  Speaker 2: He said. This is my dad. He goes, we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Have satellites all the way around the Earth back then.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you can get a cell signaling you Gonda
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere now right, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: can talk to anybody anywhere. It talks about how the
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  Speaker 1: Antichrist can project his message onto the entire Earth. At
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  Speaker 1: the same time, he can basically communicate to the whole planet.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, how in a world he's oh,
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  Speaker 1: we're all going how and maybe he's telepathic. My dad
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  Speaker 1: said that, well thought, maybe the Antichrist is telepathic. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: he can get in your head and put thoughts in
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  Speaker 1: your head and communicate that way. We just couldn't figure
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  Speaker 1: it out. He goes, now, we've all got these. We
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  Speaker 1: talked earlier about the days of Noah, and that's the
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  Speaker 1: way it's going to be in the end. And we
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  Speaker 1: talked about in the days of Noah, where fallen angels
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  Speaker 1: thrown down to the earth polluted the human race everybody
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  Speaker 1: except knowing his family God flooded the earth, and the
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  Speaker 1: point of the devil doing that was to try to derail.
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  Speaker 2: The birth of Christ. That was the point.
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  Speaker 1: If we can pollute the entire human race, we messed
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  Speaker 1: up to the bloodline that will eventually have Jesus Christ
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  Speaker 1: being born.
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  Speaker 2: That was the plan. God, Save Noah. They failed.
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  Speaker 1: Noah starts it over here we go again, go to
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of The New Testament shows the entire bloodline
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  Speaker 1: of Noah, all the way through Jesus Christ, all the
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  Speaker 1: way through the end beginning of Matthew shows the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: So the question is if in the day, if it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be like it was in the days of
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  Speaker 1: Noah and the devil tried to pollute the whole human race,
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  Speaker 1: how's he going to try.
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  Speaker 2: To do it this time?
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  Speaker 1: What's he going to try to do to keep Jesus
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  Speaker 1: from coming back where he ultimately loses.
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  Speaker 2: What's he going to do?
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  Speaker 1: Is he going to try to pollute the human race again?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe?
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  Speaker 1: How would you do that? I don't know, tech Maybe again,
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  Speaker 1: nobody really knows. These are question marks, but you can
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  Speaker 1: read it for yourself and start to put things together.
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  Speaker 1: My whole goal is not to convince anybody of anything.
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  Speaker 1: My whole goal is to make you think for a minute,
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  Speaker 1: go read it for yourself, because if you're alive on
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  Speaker 1: this earth when this starts happening, and you're a Christian,
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  Speaker 1: you need to be able to identify what it is
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  Speaker 1: you are seeing. You need to know that's what that is.
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  Speaker 2: So are you.
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  Speaker 3: Saying if you don't know what it is, you.
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  Speaker 1: Will step in the hole. Everybody line up and get
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  Speaker 1: your chip. Well, this can't be the mark of the beast.
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  Speaker 1: We're all still here. Okay, I'll take my chip. And
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  Speaker 1: what does it say about people that take the mark
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  Speaker 1: of the beast? If you take anyone who takes the
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  Speaker 1: mark of the beast, their name is not written in
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  Speaker 1: the Lamb's.
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  Speaker 2: Book of Life. That's the book that's Everybody that.
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  Speaker 1: Belongs to Jesus that's going to heaven is in the book,
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  Speaker 1: the Lamb's Book of life. If you take that, you
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  Speaker 1: are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life. I'd
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  Speaker 1: say that's a pretty final move. So can you imagine
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't recognize that for what it was because
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  Speaker 1: you didn't have the discernment in you? And where does
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  Speaker 1: discernment come from? Does it come from you? Where's it
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  Speaker 1: come from?
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  Speaker 2: The Holy Spirit? Right?
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  Speaker 1: So if he's not in you and you're not able
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  Speaker 1: to discern that and you walk right into that wood chipper,
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  Speaker 1: well there you go. People need to think about that,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm telling you, with Ai coming on
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  Speaker 1: board like it is right now, we're not that old.
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  Speaker 1: Very good chance we live out our years like we're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: I think we see it.
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  Speaker 3: I think about it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're going to see it. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing a revival happen amongst people. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's why, on my little, tiny scale, I get
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  Speaker 1: hit with particular songs which allowed certain conversations to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I get to sit with guys like you and talk
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  Speaker 1: about it in front of millions of people, get them
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  Speaker 1: to think about it. That's my little role because I
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  Speaker 1: think it's I think it's upon us. I think it's coming.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there is. I think about it alive.
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  Speaker 3: With a lot of things with social media, there are
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  Speaker 3: a link I thought about with the vaccine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that? What do you think that was?
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  Speaker 3: I took it. I took it.
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  Speaker 2: That was I think that was see how far you
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  Speaker 2: can push people.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to take it. Yeah, but my my
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  Speaker 3: my firstborn was coming right at that time, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, man, I can't fucking miss this, right vaccine.
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  Speaker 2: There was no way you could know, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Wish I would have never done it. Well, thank you,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for the education. I got one more question
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  Speaker 3: for Okay. I know your sons are You're very close
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  Speaker 3: with them. You care for them a lot. What do
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  Speaker 3: you have to say to them? What advice do you have.
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  Speaker 2: For your sons? My main thing for them is.
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  Speaker 1: There is only one true answer, and it does not
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  Speaker 1: come from yourself, and it does not come from any
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  Speaker 1: other human being. It comes from the one that created
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  Speaker 1: you and what words have been written.
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  Speaker 2: In that book in the Bible.
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  Speaker 1: As you're going through your life, I would tell my sons,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to hear all kinds of opinions.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna have your own opinions.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna the Bible tells us to test the spirits,
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  Speaker 1: meaning you may really think that's the real McCoy giving
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  Speaker 1: you that idea, But before you move on that, you
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  Speaker 1: pray about that and go am I hearing that correctly?
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  Speaker 2: Is is that correct? Because it may not be.
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  Speaker 1: If you lean on the word and you stay connected
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  Speaker 1: to him, and I mean really connected, you will live
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  Speaker 1: your life out as he wanted you to live it out,
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  Speaker 1: which will be above and beyond anything you could ever
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  Speaker 1: put together yourself. And then when you die, I get
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  Speaker 1: to see you again.
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