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- 1:51Speaker 5: All right, when you said something I was insightful. You said,
- 1:54Speaker 5: this is gonna be bigger than when Michael Jackson went
- 1:57Speaker 5: against the music industry. I believe so, Michael, And it's
- 2:00Speaker 5: when Prince had slave on his face.
- 2:02Speaker 4: I believe so.
- 2:02Speaker 1: The money is bigger.
- 2:05Speaker 4: Not only is the money bigger, we get access to
- 2:07Speaker 4: the information quicker. There wasn't social media, it wasn't heavy
- 2:11Speaker 4: back then. We can read We can read the actual petition,
- 2:15Speaker 4: We can read the actual lawsuit in minutes as it
- 2:18Speaker 4: comes out. We can go back and track everything. I
- 2:22Speaker 4: think Drake has been dropping little you know, bread crumbs
- 2:25Speaker 4: throughout his music over the last year and a half
- 2:27Speaker 4: that is going to point directly to this situation. And
- 2:30Speaker 4: I just think that it's interesting that the guy that
- 2:32Speaker 4: people paint as you know, the soft light skined god
- 2:35Speaker 4: from Canada is now doing something that I don't think
- 2:38Speaker 4: no other artist has the balls to do.
- 2:41Speaker 2: He's going against the industry.
- 2:42Speaker 4: He's going against not only the industry, the label that
- 2:45Speaker 4: he has kept the lights on for over fifteen Yeah.
- 2:49Speaker 2: So he's really a hero in this situation.
- 2:51Speaker 5: We are to sea as far as like, I just
- 2:54Speaker 5: think that's William Wallace pretty much.
- 2:56Speaker 4: I think it speaks to his character more than anything
- 2:58Speaker 4: right now. I think it's it's like oh shit, like
- 3:00Speaker 4: word like you you taking Lucie in the court.
- 3:03Speaker 5: But for the people, because I already know the comment
- 3:05Speaker 5: think of like oh you're glazed, and yeah.
- 3:07Speaker 4: No matter what you say, no matter what, let's be
- 3:14Speaker 4: human table And because I want to say that battle
- 3:17Speaker 4: without the back of the universal like this this should
- 3:20Speaker 4: happened with fifty and fifty at I mean winning each other.
- 3:23Speaker 1: It's the same ship, just a different decade.
- 3:26Speaker 5: But but Kendrick did fight, a tactical, strategic fight and
- 3:31Speaker 5: had dope lyrics and dope song.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Nobody's taking nothing away from that. Nobody's saying he didn't
- 3:36Speaker 4: with Drake. I believe it's saying is the business did
- 3:41Speaker 4: something in this moment.
- 3:42Speaker 1: That directly to make it bigger brand.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Not only that, but I have contract You think that
- 3:49Speaker 4: you think that Beyonce's home would be allowed to put
- 3:54Speaker 4: a picture of Beyonce's home would be allowed on DSPs
- 3:57Speaker 4: with sex offender marks above it, And these are things
- 4:03Speaker 4: that happen and we're not paying attention to that, we
- 4:05Speaker 4: thinking it's just a battle. I'm more than positive that
- 4:08Speaker 4: the biggest artist in his world has some language in
- 4:11Speaker 4: his contracts where what the DSPs did with that photo
- 4:15Speaker 4: was definitely against his contract. Yeah, I'm more than positive
- 4:20Speaker 4: because again, this is big This is billion dollar business responsions.
- 4:24Speaker 4: This is not this is not the average artist. This
- 4:26Speaker 4: is the biggest artist in the world, one of the
- 4:29Speaker 4: biggest artists in the world, one of the three him
- 4:32Speaker 4: tailor Beyonce in my opinion. Yeah, so that's the real
- 4:35Speaker 4: big three, that's the real big three. So we want
- 4:37Speaker 4: to talk big three. This is the big three business
- 4:41Speaker 4: that we are now seeing. This is a Big three
- 4:43Speaker 4: war that we're seeing right now. This is what happens
- 4:45Speaker 4: when one of the Big Three decides your the labels
- 4:48Speaker 4: did some bullshit and I'm gonna make them pay for it.
- 4:51Speaker 6: On the other side, and some of the mistakes that
- 4:53Speaker 6: he made when you talk to him, did you ever
- 4:55Speaker 6: be like, bro, you're going crazy like fucking everybody girl,
- 4:59Speaker 6: so stop.
- 5:01Speaker 4: Or that type of I don't, I don't. I don't
- 5:04Speaker 4: get into none of that, man, all of that. That's
- 5:07Speaker 4: you know, I stay out of that.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Man.
- 5:09Speaker 4: My My conversations are very uh you know, it's it's
- 5:13Speaker 4: just I don't even we don't. I don't speak I
- 5:15Speaker 4: speak to him the same way I'm speaking to y'all.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Bro conversations, Bro, Like I don't, I don't get into that.
- 5:20Speaker 4: So from.
- 5:22Speaker 5: Me tweeted, No, he's pretty much said, like I'm paraphrasing,
- 5:27Speaker 5: but like I told y'all talking about the bots, because
- 5:30Speaker 5: he had complain that bots was was he playing that
- 5:33Speaker 5: box was tearing down his image and you know me,
- 5:36Speaker 5: he's had a tough time, right, so he was saying
- 5:38Speaker 5: that a lot of this ship is not real and
- 5:39Speaker 5: it's it's it's fueled by bots, and so he's kind
- 5:43Speaker 5: of getting some validation from Drake making his claim because
- 5:46Speaker 5: he's like, when I said it, they said I was crazy,
- 5:49Speaker 5: But now Drake is saying it, Like, so they're pretty
- 5:52Speaker 5: much saying that there are social the same thing that
- 5:54Speaker 5: happened with the election, right this, I mean, this is
- 5:56Speaker 5: deeper than rap because this happened and with Russia influencing
- 6:01Speaker 5: the election and Mark Zuckerberg had to go in front
- 6:03Speaker 5: of Congress. This isn't conspiracy. This is actual facts that
- 6:06Speaker 5: this actually does happen with users are on social media
- 6:10Speaker 5: that are not real users that are very vocal in comments,
- 6:13Speaker 5: and that persuades. So if I have if I put
- 6:18Speaker 5: a post up in ninety comments are negative to my
- 6:21Speaker 5: looking at it's just human nature. You're going to tend
- 6:23Speaker 5: to start looking at that post negative, negative, and that
- 6:26Speaker 5: gets the stream roll. So that happens in real life.
- 6:29Speaker 5: Like I said, it happened in the presidential election. So
- 6:31Speaker 5: now they're saying this is actually being curated in the
- 6:34Speaker 5: music industry. That's interesting, And yeah, Drake is saying that
- 6:39Speaker 5: that's one of the reasons why that song became so
- 6:42Speaker 5: big because its shaped public perception.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Once the momentum got moving on social media.
- 6:47Speaker 4: And I think that the fact that it shaped public perception.
- 6:51Speaker 4: But again, and this is something that I said from
- 6:53Speaker 4: the very start of this love Kendrick, Kendrick fan support Kendrick, Yeah,
- 6:58Speaker 4: but him calling one of the biggest artists in the
- 7:03Speaker 4: world a certified pedophile. To me, that was like, wait a,
- 7:08Speaker 4: y'all listening to this, Like you see what happened with
- 7:11Speaker 4: Jaguar Wright just went on Pis Morgan and said what
- 7:15Speaker 4: she said about Jay and Beyonce. You'll never see Jaguar Wright.
- 7:20Speaker 4: You might not ever see Jaguar Wright on another major
- 7:22Speaker 4: platform again in your life.
- 7:24Speaker 5: But all right, but to keep it all right, I know,
- 7:28Speaker 5: but there is a precedent in the hip hop where
- 7:30Speaker 5: people say crazy shit.
- 7:31Speaker 2: In battle rap they call people God blessed.
- 7:34Speaker 4: We lost pocket big behind a rap battle. Neither one
- 7:37Speaker 4: of them Jay and Ois went at it. Neither one
- 7:41Speaker 4: of them.
- 7:41Speaker 1: I told I told him this, If that.
- 7:44Speaker 4: Was that word, bro, that's something that you're what I said,
- 7:47Speaker 4: who the girl was he was fucking with? Just like
- 7:51Speaker 4: you lied about the other kids drinking, Like come on, man,
- 7:55Speaker 4: hit yo, the pedophile. You can't call one of the
- 7:59Speaker 4: biggest artists in the world a sex offender, and then
- 8:03Speaker 4: the label pushed that recon and pushed that mess. They
- 8:05Speaker 4: put millions of dollars behind that desists. Yeah, it's like
- 8:11Speaker 4: like what like y'all really pushed this message to try
- 8:14Speaker 4: to defamate his character. And again, I don't know his business,
- 8:18Speaker 4: but I'm more than certain that it affected some brands
- 8:21Speaker 4: and some people to kind of be like, yo, let
- 8:23Speaker 4: this die because we don't know what's going on with
- 8:25Speaker 4: this pedophile thing. Like, let's just kind of.
- 8:30Speaker 2: It didn't get as much traction.
- 8:32Speaker 5: But did he not call Kendrick Lamar a wife beater
- 8:35Speaker 5: and abuser of women?
- 8:38Speaker 4: I think he posed the question when you hit you
- 8:41Speaker 4: when you beat your girls because.
- 8:42Speaker 2: She's big exactly.
- 8:44Speaker 7: So that's actually just like this actual I believe there's
- 8:50Speaker 7: an actual case case out on this happened in Vegas
- 8:54Speaker 7: where he assaulted a female.
- 8:56Speaker 1: That they swept under the row too fancial just and I.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Think that this is out there, So that wasn't just
- 9:02Speaker 2: a bogus action.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't.
- 9:03Speaker 4: I don't believe it was. And if and if it was,
- 9:06Speaker 4: and if it was, if it was, I think drags
- 9:09Speaker 4: on the side of Yeah, but We didn't spend millions
- 9:11Speaker 4: of dollars to push that.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Message though wrong is wrong, but like that we was.
- 9:16Speaker 4: It was a battle. I said some things. Cool is
- 9:18Speaker 4: it if it's not true?
- 9:19Speaker 2: All right? Correct?
- 9:19Speaker 1: Good?
- 9:20Speaker 4: Yeah, But I also didn't put twenty thirty million dollars
- 9:22Speaker 4: behind this song into the DSPs and all of this,
- 9:25Speaker 4: and and and then have Spotify take thirty percent less
- 9:29Speaker 4: of a license fee to put this on.
- 9:30Speaker 2: Talk about that?
- 9:31Speaker 4: What is that?
- 9:31Speaker 5: Because even when Roy said that, I want to can
- 9:35Speaker 5: you kind of just explain what, like what does he
- 9:37Speaker 5: mean by that?
- 9:39Speaker 4: Because Lucien obviously is the is the the biggest guy
- 9:43Speaker 4: in the music business. Obviously the DSPs and the labels
- 9:46Speaker 4: are one. So basically it's inside of trading.
- 9:50Speaker 2: They ain't codes with each other.
- 9:51Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, absolutely, So it's like you're gonna take They
- 9:55Speaker 4: wouldn't do that for any other artists. No other artists do.
- 9:57Speaker 4: They drop their thirty percent license fee and say, okay, whatever,
- 9:59Speaker 4: what ever, put your music here, like.
- 10:00Speaker 5: Just because they wanted to get it out there so
- 10:02Speaker 5: so much, they wanted to express it that some.
- 10:04Speaker 4: Of that businesses above my pay grade. But like I said,
- 10:08Speaker 4: but I'm standing on the side of it again. I
- 10:10Speaker 4: didn't speak to Drake about none of it. Well, I'm
- 10:12Speaker 4: lying I did, but I didn't speak to him in
- 10:14Speaker 4: detail about what's happening. Is very surfaced. It's very like,
- 10:19Speaker 4: let it all play out. People are going to see you.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Spoke to him recently.
- 10:24Speaker 4: Absolutely all of this shit happened, and I got it
- 10:26Speaker 4: hit get like, what the right? But again, you know,
- 10:30Speaker 4: I don't speak about things that I speak with your
- 10:33Speaker 4: guys I know, and people I know privately. I don't
- 10:36Speaker 4: speak about it publicly.
- 10:37Speaker 2: But I just got to in good spirits. He's in
- 10:40Speaker 2: great spirit. It seems like he's bothered. It seems that way.
- 10:44Speaker 4: It's gonna. It's gonna even if he if he goes
- 10:46Speaker 4: out here and buys a new plane. People he did
- 10:47Speaker 4: that because he mad.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Because he cut his head.
- 10:49Speaker 5: He's talking about the Rose then he told him cut
- 10:52Speaker 5: cut the weekends music. He's making some moves that are questionable.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Yeah, but if I'm not fucking with you, don't play.
- 10:59Speaker 4: When you were on to the Raptors, I put my
- 11:01Speaker 4: arms around you. The city embraced you, partly because I
- 11:04Speaker 4: embraced you, and I'm the biggest guy in the city.
- 11:06Speaker 2: That's the fact.
- 11:07Speaker 4: I embraced you. I showed you love. When the Raptors
- 11:09Speaker 4: traded you, you came to my house and was depressed
- 11:12Speaker 4: and crying, not you know, probably not physically crying, but
- 11:15Speaker 4: you were heard about being traded, and I was the
- 11:17Speaker 4: guy that was there for you, you know, telling yours
- 11:19Speaker 4: you're gonna be good. The city's gonna always love you.
- 11:22Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, somebody's calling me the
- 11:24Speaker 4: worst thing you can call anybody in my vinie, worse
- 11:27Speaker 4: than the snitch. I don't care about that snitch shit.
- 11:29Speaker 4: A pedophile is way worse than that.
- 11:31Speaker 2: That's the fact.
- 11:32Speaker 4: So now they're calling me this you from Compton. I
- 11:35Speaker 4: understand that, not saying you can't be a yeah, but
- 11:39Speaker 4: to stand in the video and dance on the stage
- 11:42Speaker 4: when he's calling me a pedophile, Yeah, it's like, bro,
- 11:46Speaker 4: like it's cool to be like, Yo, Kendrick, you my man,
- 11:49Speaker 4: but y'all, Drake is my homie too. But I can't.
- 11:52Speaker 4: I can't do this video, bro, I can't support this message.
- 11:54Speaker 4: I can't do that.
- 11:55Speaker 6: And that's the craziest part about not like us. It's
- 11:58Speaker 6: through kendred exclusive license to end Scope. They didn't even
- 12:01Speaker 6: put the ship on this album. So how did that?
- 12:04Speaker 4: Why?
- 12:05Speaker 1: That's why and why not then put the ship on
- 12:07Speaker 1: the album?
- 12:08Speaker 4: That because I feel like Universal knew that this was coming.
- 12:12Speaker 6: Absolutely, so let's make this a stand alone released and
- 12:17Speaker 6: as act as if we have him independent when he's
- 12:19Speaker 6: not shot. Wack was one of the first ones, even
- 12:21Speaker 6: from that side, to call it and then to not
- 12:23Speaker 6: place it on this album.
- 12:25Speaker 4: Why, I'm of the belief again, I don't know. I'm
- 12:28Speaker 4: just you know, we just kept getting this in real time.
- 12:31Speaker 4: I think that Universal knew what was coming behind what
- 12:34Speaker 4: they did with this record and probably told And now
- 12:38Speaker 4: I do believe a deluxe is coming. I do believe
- 12:40Speaker 4: Kendrick is going to add more songs to the album,
- 12:42Speaker 4: and he made, you know, put not Like Us on there.
- 12:45Speaker 4: I don't know, we just speaking in real time, but
- 12:47Speaker 4: I believe it has something to do with this lawsuit.
- 12:51Speaker 4: Why they probably was like, wait, hold up, because if
- 12:55Speaker 4: this song is on the album and it's a lawsuit
- 12:57Speaker 4: behind this song, it may affect your entire project.
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