Latest / Repossible / re506: Your Life Is Shrinking—Widen the Circle

Transcript

re506: Your Life Is Shrinking—Widen the Circle · Repossible

• 0:04
  Speaker A: Resiliency. That's one of the words we're going to be talking about today. I'm Bradley Charbonneau. I'm here with Spencer Waldron and we are talking about the year of you. Now, I'm going to get to Spencer really quick. I just got to give you a bit of backstory, and that is that a few days ago, Spencer came out to my. My lovely little town in the woods here in the Netherlands, away from the. Sorry.
• 0:29
  Speaker B: It is very lovely.
• 0:31
  Speaker A: Yes, yes. And I had it all set up with my fancy microphones and my fancy tripod and we had this lake setting and the bench. And in fact, if you're watching this on YouTube, you'll probably be seeing it because I'm going to show it. But what happened was I was just too far away for the microphones to connect. And our fantastic never to be repeated again conversation, never to be simulated, which is what we're going to try to do today. It just didn't work. So super bummed, Frustrated, annoyed, because I'm usually pretty, you know, good with my tech and stuff and I will test things first, but I did not. And so do I consider that a failure and I go run into the woods and cry in the bear's den and give up and never do it again, or do we hop back on the horse and. And do it again? So I'm giving a little bit of a teaser here, a little bit of a spoiler, because resiliency is one of. Of Spencer's words. And I know that because we had this conversation already. And so this is a bit of a redo, if you will, of our chat in the woods the other day. And our goal here is to talk through the questions that I have created for this year of you. And another thing that I'm offering here, because I'm offering all kinds of fun stuff, I'm offering all kinds of versions of how you can do this. You can type in your answers if you want, you can record your answers to the questions or you can hop on a call like I'm doing with Spencer right now, and I will walk you through it all this stuff, because that'll be sort of like an interview, fun process. Go check it all out@repossible.com yoy sponsor for our episode today and go check out all the details. So without further delay and double checking audio. Yes. Yes. Looking good then. Welcome, Spencer waldron to version 2 of the year of youf.
• 2:34
  Speaker B: Thank you very much. Looking forward to our conversation again.
• 2:41
  Speaker A: It is. It is much more Dreary and gray. So we're going to try to bring out some of the. Okay, I was about to say your word again. I'm not going to say it. Bring out some of the three letter word that starts with J. Yes, exactly. That we got to. So the goal here is I'm going to ask Benson some questions, a bit like an interview and let him go off. Because then what we're going to do is we're going to take the transcript, take what he says, and then we're going to build these elements like a postcard and a poster, and we're going to create a poem and a phone, wallpaper or phone background based on the design and the content that he talks about in the next 20 minutes as well as this one's. I'm kind of getting to the borders of my limits here, but I'm going to create a song for you as well. All right, I know, I know. Big expectations here. I know. So Spencer is quite advanced in this topic because I. I can't believe it was two years ago, but he told me it was two years ago. Two years ago he sat with me at my former place of minor employment and within a couple hours you wrote your. What was then called one word book. It was great. And you did it and you accomplished it. You started, finished, boom, sat there, done. So we're gonna do the same thing today, except we're two years later.
• 4:07
  Speaker B: Yeah. All right. Yes.
• 4:10
  Speaker A: So this is kind of funny because I know your answer. I kind of know your answers. And so I feel like I could lead to the questions, but I don't really. I shouldn't do that. So we started out with, you know, it's the beginning of the year now. And if you look towards the end of the year, you know, a lot of this is, a lot of this whole program started with sort of New Year's resolution type stuff and then how. And the, the foundation of it came from New Year's resolution. You know, you're drunk on New Year's Eve and you say, oh, this year I'm gonna do this. And you, you forget or you don't do anything about it. So the idea was to more like solidify or clarify the. These words or ideas or New Year's resolution or whatever. And I know New Year's resolutions gets a bad rap, so we don't have to call it that. So. But if you look forward towards the, the end of this coming year, the year we're already in, and then you look back and you had said some really cool stuff the other day. What do you see? Like, what are some positive things that would happen? Because this is a positive thing, by the way. It's not the worst year ever. We're talking good stuff. We're gonna. This year is gonna be awesome, and this is gonna be a very positive 20 minutes here, and we're going to sort of try to build out your year. So what are some of the things? If you want to just jump out and say your word, because I know you know it, you can start with that.
• 5:41
  Speaker B: I could, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna take a step back, so.
• 5:43
  Speaker A: Okay, take a step back.
• 5:45
  Speaker B: When we wrote that one word book, which was 20. 2024, so, my God, my word for the year, or my theme for the year was grit. And grit was because I was building a new business and trying to work hard to get it off the ground and things like that. And I think I definitely am not a person that's into New Year's resolutions, but I love the idea of the one word book because it was. How I see it is more as, what's the theme for the year?
• 6:18
  Speaker A: Oh. Oh, I like that.
• 6:19
  Speaker B: So I kind of. Yeah, I kind of like that. And it gives. And it gives me a lot of flexibility in terms of how I interpret it. So, as you know, last year was a bit of a tough year in our house. We. My son had a big accident. So for sure, last year, my theme of the year was resilience. That. That definitely dominated the year. But when I think about 2026 and we go to the 2026, I'm looking back then the. The two words that I would use is joy and resilience. And I think joy. Joy kind of came from a little journey that I've been on for the last three years. So I will be 53 this year. And when I got to 50, it. For me, that was a birthday that was. With a lot of. It felt like a bit of a big crossroads. And what I. Where joy came from was I really looked at it and thought it would be very easy to spend the next 10 years in exactly the same way as I spent the last 10 years, but maybe that's not the thing to do. And because I have two kids and they're now teenagers and not needing me as much as they used to, then I have more time. So what I decided is I actually want to use some of that free time and try and be deliberate in terms of finding moments of joy.
• 7:51
  Speaker A: And.
• 7:52
  Speaker B: And then it became a question of, like, okay, what is joy? What does that mean to me? And one of those things was going for long walks, hikes, multi day hikes. So on my 50th birthday year I took myself off to Italy and I hiked the outer one in the Dolomites in Italy which was amazing. And then every year since then I have done a multi day hike. I think we did talk about the iconic Dutch mountain trail that I did the following year.
• 8:25
  Speaker A: The oxymoron of Dutch.
• 8:27
  Speaker B: The Dutch what exactly? In the flattest country in the universe There is a three day 100 kilometer hike called the Dutch Mountain Trail which is actually really beautiful. The highest peak I scaled was about 300 meters so luckily there was no need for oxygen. But. And yeah, and then this last year 2025 I did the, the UK coast to coast. So it, it, that was a very long winded way of getting to your question that if I look back at the end of 2026, I would hope that I have had multiple moments of joy and that that doesn't need to be like a big thing like I'm going to go off and do a five day hike in the mountain somewhere. It can also be a bit like we were sat by that pond doing the first recording of this conversation.
• 9:23
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 9:24
  Speaker B: That for me is a moment of joy to go for a walk in nature with a friend and have a great conversation, a good cup of coffee. Or it can be, I think I like, you know, I. It can be something as simple as watching a butterfly land in my balcony garden because it's taken me three years to build to grow the plants that brought the butterflies.
• 9:49
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 9:50
  Speaker B: That's a moment of joy. So joy doesn't have to be big things or little things. It could, you know, it can be whatever, whatever that means. So yeah, that would be how I would want to, what I'd want to see these like moments of joy.
• 10:11
  Speaker A: It's sort of a fun exercise that we, that we lost the audio from the other day because it's forcing me to use my actual memory which I have, you know, handed over to chat GPT and I don't have to remember anything anymore. And if I have to think back then we were talking about the difference between joy and happiness. Yeah. And you were talking about, you said things like surprise and sort of excitement or excited. And the difference between joy and happiness. I thought that was really cool. If you could elaborate on that difference because you had a really interesting take on it.
• 10:46
  Speaker B: Sure. So happiness is something also that I've spent a lot of time thinking About. And it. It took me many years to understand that happiness, for me at least, is about feeling at peace. That happiness is not about stuff. It's not about buying things. It's, you know, happiness for me comes where it's. It's the absence of problems, if you like. So it's, you know, and I always remember back to when I was a young man and I went backpacking around the world for two years. And there were many moments where I was totally just living in that moment that day. Like, I wasn't worried about what tomorrow was going to bring. I had no baggage about what happened in the past. I was just enjoying the present. And I think, like, what I always remember as. As I went into my career and things like that, that actually those days for me represented absolute peace, inner peace. Like it. And it's that ability to be more in the moment. And I think so a feeling of being at peace. This, this is something that I. I kind of define as happiness. Whereas joy is more about like. Like a higher, higher emotion around something. So we spoke about the emotions, which I got from, yeah, my obsession with public speaking and, and how we make decisions and things like that. But it basically goes that we. We have eight emotions as humans. And emotions are physical, they're fast, and they're unconscious. And out of those eight emotions, five of them are more like negative emotions. So things like anger, fear, hate, shame, disgust. And the reason we have five of the eight that are negative is because that's our survival instincts. It's our fight, flight, or freeze. It's what's kept us safe for, you know, hundreds of thousands of years. And we then have what's called two attachment emotions, which is love slash trust and joy slash excitement. And the attachment emotions are when we have all of the. The good chemicals running out, running around our body like oxytocin and things like that. And so joy actually is closely linked to excitement. So I think for me, joy is more when I do something that brings me a level of excitement of some description. So, yeah, make define that as you wish, but. And then surprise just to complete the loop. So, so surprise is for me the most interesting emotion because surprise is the only emotion that can change our brain from a more survival mode to a more attachment mode. And obviously in the world of public speaking, that's really interesting because I want to make sure that I want you in curious, open, asking questions kind of feeling when I give you my talk as opposed to defensive survival.
• 14:07
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 14:08
  Speaker B: But yeah, so that for me is where joy fits in but, yeah, so joy for me is more around excitement and things that you love and things that give you, like, a buzz or a thrill. It could, you know, you can take it to whatever you want. I think there's also an element of new experiences, like, you know, and that can be as simple as your daily walk. You just do a different route that you've never done before. Yeah, that brings a level of the unknown, which I think spikes the joy.
• 14:42
  Speaker A: Yeah, so.
• 14:44
  Speaker B: Yeah, so that's how I would define it in a way.
• 14:47
  Speaker A: So you had talked about circles in some way. You said you were talking about small circles and then a big circle. And I think the small circle was like the routine, the safety, the like. Like you do. You do do the exact. The same dog route every day, and you're just staying in your route and you don't go out of your circle.
• 15:08
  Speaker B: Exactly. We all have that. I think, you know, that there are things that we all do all the time, most days or every week. And for me, this is. And this will start to lead into the resilience word.
• 15:22
  Speaker A: Okay. Okay.
• 15:25
  Speaker B: So my second. My second word for the year is resilience, because that's. There are still things happening to do with my son's accident that we. We definitely need resilience for.
• 15:34
  Speaker A: But.
• 15:35
  Speaker B: Yeah, so the two circles, so the. The inner circle, for me I see is all of the things that we do every day, that we eat at certain times, we leave the house at certain times, maybe to go to work as we have a commute, or we walk the dog at certain times. It's like these patterns that happen every day. Every day, every day. And what we know in the human brain is when we do those things, it actually, over time, creates a physical pathway in the brain. So it makes it harder for us to get out of that routine. And so then. So if you imagine, like, a circle drawn on the paper with all those things that you do every single day, and then you draw a much bigger circle around that first circle, and then you start putting into that all of the things that you don't normally do. So it could be you're going to a new place on holiday, or you meet a new person, or you go join improv, or you go speak on a stage or you speak up in a meeting that you would never normally speak up in. All of those things are what I would say, getting out of your comfort zone. And when I look back. So one of the things that happened as we were navigating what happened with my son last year is many people Came to me and said, oh, my God, how are you so resilient? Like this. This word resilience coming up. And what I. And I. Because this is who I am, I obviously started to build a talk about it, but one of the things I suddenly realized is resilience is. Is a skill. It's like you can grow the skill of resilience. You only get resilient by doing tough things or by going through challenging things. So when I looked back at my life, from the day I was born to this minute right now, I. I have always been somebody that has put myself out of my comfort zone, whether it was to leave, to go backpacking for two years on my own, to do improv comedy, to do public speaking, to speak up in meetings, whatever it is.
• 17:39
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 17:40
  Speaker B: And what you suddenly realize is that the more you do that, the more you can operate in times of discomfort or in times of challenge. And that's what I know about resilience, is that resilience is not about being tough. It's not about having all the answers. It's. It's about being in an absolute state of chaos or emotional upheaval, but still getting up, dusting yourself off, and go doing the things that you have to do, because it doesn't paralyze you. It doesn't. It doesn't freeze you. And I think growing the skill of resilience, that's what it gives you. It gives you that ability to weather the storm. Even though you're battered and bruised and you feel like the world is not fair, but you still keep going forward. You still keep moving forward. And I think that's. That's where those two circles come into play. Because what I see, especially as we get older, we retreat more and more to the smaller circle, and we do less and less in the outer circle, because when we're younger, we're more like, yeah, we want to go out and discover the world and discover who we are. And. And then as we. What I see, especially when people get older and retire, is you stop doing that stuff so much, and you go more to the routine. And I think for me, routine is danger, because the second you stop putting yourself out of your comfort zone, then suddenly things that are really close to the edge of that inner circle become problematic, become scary. Whereas before you could go way out, imagine that second circle is really wide, like, really much bigger than the inner circle. And then what happens is, slowly, over time, that second circle gets smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller until it connects with the first one.
• 19:28
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 19:28
  Speaker B: And then you can have something that's really minor that 20 years ago, you would never have thought about in a million years as being scary and suddenly becomes scary. So, yeah. So for me, resilience is. Is about. So let's take it back to your question. So if I look back from the end of 2026, and I look back over this year, then I would hope to see that I have continued to find, in small ways and big ways to step out of my comfort zone, because that's what keeps the muscle of resilience being built.
• 20:06
  Speaker A: Okay, so I'm super visual guy, and I'm seeing all these things, and it's funny because I can see the pond and the bench, but then I see the circles, and I see there's a small circle and there's a bigger circle. So is the idea, like, you're saying over time, the bigger circle, which encompasses the excitement and the danger and the risk and the different stuff out of the daily routine, that's getting small? Well, not. It doesn't have to, but it usually gets smaller and smaller over time until the point where it. It's the same. Maybe it's the same or slightly different from the completely routine. This is absolutely where my comfort zone is. Smaller circle. So in your visual, is the goal then to.
• 20:54
  Speaker B: To live in the second circle as much as you can?
• 20:58
  Speaker A: Okay. And do you want that second circle to get bigger and bigger or. That's not important. It's more important to this. Can it get bigger? If.
• 21:07
  Speaker B: If I take my analogy, then yes, because if I. If I am now somebody who is comfortable with public speaking, I'm comfortable with doing improv comedy. I've done a solo hike for 10 days in the mountains on my own. I've jumped out. Years ago, I did skydiving. I jumped out. So, okay, so if I. Now if I do those things again, like, if I. Let's take the hike. So I'm doing solo hikes. The first one I did, I was pretty scared. I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I'm fit enough to do this. I'm 50. What if I get lost? What if, like, I run out of food? Like, so I had all these questions and, like, and what I. And this also connects to the. To the eight emotions, because fear is one of the eight emotions. So fear is one of the five negative emotions. And our brain is incredibly good at telling us, don't do that.
• 22:06
  Speaker A: It.
• 22:07
  Speaker B: Stay safe, Stay in the circle.
• 22:09
  Speaker A: Stay in the smaller circle. Stay in the smaller circle.
• 22:11
  Speaker B: Because if you go to that bigger circle, it's risky. Things can go wrong. And that's one of the things that I learned is my brain is really good at telling me to be cautious. When what I realized is I had this motto for years, which is, Spencer, if you've thought about it, you've done the hardest bit. Because to do it, to do it is going to be less scary than me thinking because I'll have made it much worse, much scarier, much bigger than what it will actually be. Okay, actually, this also really ties into the whole how do we manage our fear as, as a public speaker? Because our brain makes us think it's going to be the worst possible thing we could ever do, when actually it's really not. But so, yeah, so for me, it's like the more we do something, this is how fear works. The more you do something, the less scary it becomes. I've now done multiple solo hikes and now I'm really happy doing them. And I don't feel. And it's the same with public speaking. The more I do public speaking, the easier it becomes. I still have nerves. I still. It's not like I don't have any nerves, but I still, I've just learned how to manage them because my expectation is it's not going to be as bad as my, My mind can make it believe. And it's the same with any fear. It doesn't matter if you're scared of wasps. How do you get. What about. If you're scared of wasps or spiders? How do you get over that? You have to spend time with spiders and wasps. You have to let them fly around you or let the spider crawl over your hand. This is how we conquer our fear. How do you so. So for me, it's. Live as much as you can in that bigger circle, do things that are scary in small ways and big ways. Because the more you do that, the more resilient you'll become.
• 24:06
  Speaker A: Is it also maybe making the smaller circle bigger? Because the things you're used to or their habits or they're regular now are, I don't know, public speaking. They're now, they're now in your smaller circles. I don't know why I'm so fixated on whether the circle grows or not.
• 24:23
  Speaker B: I've never take, I've never taken the analogy that far. But yeah, you're right. If, if I do something like the hiking to the point where, say, like, I don't know, in a few years I retire and I have tons more time Then, yeah, maybe I'll do hiking all the time. In which case that now goes into the smaller circle. Because it's becoming a routine.
• 24:44
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker B: If I'm doing it.
• 24:45
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker B: It's becoming a routine. Like, so it's almost. Yeah. That I think things can move in and out of the two circles if we keep the analogy.
• 24:55
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 24:55
  Speaker B: So, yeah, what I want is to take things that once scared me to become things that are now in the inner circle. Yeah, I like it. It's nice.
• 25:06
  Speaker A: You know, it's fun with this, this program I'm doing where it's creating all these visuals. It's kind of fun to see what comes out of it. And that's why I'm. I'm digging. I'm also. Because I'm very visual, so I see things more in visual format. And so I'm seeing these circles and I want to know, or do they grow? Do they get smaller? How does it work? So that's really cool. Okay. Speaking of visuals and. Because I know you have to go in four minutes, speaking of visuals, remember, this is a visual output you're going to get. Right. You're going to get this postcard and this poster and stuff. And what artistic styles or colors or are there ideas or even anything that you could talk about where the designer then can have an idea of what to do? I don't want to say them because I don't want to influence it. So what kind of artistic styles? Or any kind of style?
• 25:58
  Speaker B: So I love, as you've guessed, I love metaphors and analogies. So for me, the. The metaphor is the, let's say, going for a hike, going exploring. So I think I've told you this before. There's a line from Lord of the Rings, which Bilbo Baggins says that, you know, leaving your front door and going for a walk is a risky business because before you know where you are, you're in a totally different place.
• 26:26
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker B: So I'm. I'm paraphrasing. I can't remember the exact quote, but it's this lovely quote about. Yeah, all you need to do is take a few steps, leave your front door, and before you know where you are, you're in a new place, a new situation. So my, My. My visual metaphor is footsteps walking through the woods or. Or going off to distant mountains and. And lands. So, yeah, I would definitely go to the. More Lord of the Rings fantasy. Going off on an adventure. Give yourself lots of mini adventures.
• 27:01
  Speaker A: Okay. Love it. And then for a musical style, if there were A musical style that were to accompany this. This painting we're painting here. What would you like that to be?
• 27:15
  Speaker B: I think something upbeat and happy. Or I guess like cinematic is a good word. Like you're going off, you're going off, you're going off on a little adventure. But it's a happy adventure. It doesn't have to be a scary adventure. Although you could say that if we're taking ourselves to places of adventure, then maybe it has a bit of drama to it. But I'm still. I'm more towards the joy than the resilience. So resilience may be more dramatic music and the joy is more. I've been a happy place. When I think about myself hiking on my own in the mountains, I've got a huge grin on my face. I'm like, totally happy. So it's. Yeah, for me, because that's why they put joy and excitement together. Like, it's an exciting thing to be doing and that's like, to close the loop on public speaking. But, like, that's why when we get nervous about giving a talk, we've gone inside ourselves and we're like, who am I to do this? It's going to go wrong. Who I am are all these people we're in inside ourselves. But if we project outwards to our audience and think, why am I excited to give this talk? How am I going to help somebody, the audience? What are they going to get from this? So fear and excitement are really closely linked because they feel very similar in the body. It's just our modern brain interprets them as two different things. Because if you think about it, what do we feel if we're scared or excited? Heartbeats, Faster. Sweaty palms, Adrenaline.
• 28:53
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker B: One time I'm in danger and one time I'm hiking in the mountains or on a roller coaster. So, yeah, anyway, long way of saying more happy, happy, upbeat music. Not the world is about to end.
• 29:09
  Speaker A: Music with a. With a cinematic flow to it. Okay. All right. I love it. Perfect. We are just on time. Hopefully this audio worked. I'm going to merge this all beautifully with our gorgeous background of the pond. And we will see hope. If I do what I want to do, I'm going to show what we've created along the way. We have our talk right here, so I will create that for you. Cool.
• 29:37
  Speaker B: Exciting.
• 29:38
  Speaker A: All right, thanks, Spencer. Thanks for taking the time and great. Thanks again. It's gonna be a great year. Really. Really. I swear. All right, thanks again. Bye.
• 29:51
  Speaker B: Bye. Hey. Hey.
• 29:55
  Speaker A: This is Bradley Schravner. A little post game recap here. Now what I've done is I've created a song for Spencer, right. He doesn't know this yet. He hasn't heard these. And I'm just playing around with it. Now, I am guaranteed no musical director. In fact, I am musically challenged. So I want you to hear like a little snippet of these three, and I want you to let me know what you think. Do you. Do you like one better than the other? And trying not to give commentary. Here's number. Here's number. Ready? Here we go.
• 30:27
  Speaker B: When we stay where it's safe now.
• 30:35
  Speaker A: Go ahead. Right. Spencer said he wanted light.
• 30:38
  Speaker B: Life narrows quietly when we stay where it's safe. Focus One step.
• 30:51
  Speaker A: Beyond the familiar. Having a hard time understanding him, but it's kind of like, I don't know, goth or rock or heavy, right? And I think it's too heavy. He's not really singing, right? He's reading. Let's see. Lot a lot of background instrumentals going on. Any more vocals?
• 31:21
  Speaker B: Widened circle.
• 31:23
  Speaker A: Widened circle. Got that? This is interesting, right? This is where taste comes into play. Like it's not my cup of tea. So. All right, that's number. That's not bad. Let me know what you think about that. Okay, here comes number two. Okay. Really soft guitar. Nice countryside, right? Set A nice opening. Little ding dongs, little bells or whatever. Piano. Not sure how much I know about music. Okay, we're getting in there. Life narrows quietly when we stay where it's safe so take one step beyond the familiar. Got a friendly. Joy Lives there in the new route the open door the moment that surprises you you know, he's. He's just speaking. He's not. He's not really singing. I think it's more like a poem that he's reading or something like that. It's cool. I like the whole. I mean, I guess it's Irish or Scottish or something. Accent.
• 32:54
  Speaker B: Resilience is built the same way.
• 32:56
  Speaker A: One brave step at a time. I think you said one small brave.
• 32:59
  Speaker B: Step at a time.
• 33:05
  Speaker A: It's a little slow, right? Like a circle.
• 33:12
  Speaker B: There we go.
• 33:13
  Speaker A: Bringing it home. You feel the enthusiasm? All right, stop him. I can't stop. All right, we go. Number three. Ready? So that was that. That was. The guy kind of breathed. Okay. I said. I said let's go. I said let's go. A little more Irish or something. I think we're going a full on Irish folk song. Ready? Here we.
• 33:41
  Speaker B: Go. Life narrows quietly when we stay where it's safe so take one step beyond the familiar joy lives there in the new rocky open.
• 34:21
  Speaker A: So I can't tell. Is he in, like, Irish pub or something or a British pub, or is he, like, in church? I don't know. Is he on the street corner? I don't know. I mean, does it doesn't matter. We got heavy on the Irish folk song. I like it, though. I like it. I'm gonna stop. Those are the three songs, like 1, 2, and 3. I don't have names for them. You can figure them out. What do you like? And so, again, try to envision what's super cool about this whole process is like, this song is for Spencer, right? This is his song. And if this is interesting for you, then, you know, let me know. So go to repossible.com/yoy, like year of you, right yoy and you'll see where I am. I keep updating how this is going to work and everything and love to hear your feedback on what you think of this crazy stuff. So. All right, thanks so much for watching and listening. Bye for now.