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The Late Debate | 1 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: General, Welcome to the wake bade.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is back unburdened by sobriety, or at least
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  Speaker 2: it seems that way. I'll show you what I mean later. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: when we look at the papers, The Australian has got
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  Speaker 2: an interesting front page tomorrow, labour's links to Chinese Commenist
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  Speaker 2: Party aligned property developers seems Elbow and Penny Wong have
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  Speaker 2: been whining and dining them. Plus the unusual excuse some
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  Speaker 2: public servants are giving for not wanting to go back
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  Speaker 2: to working in the office. All of that when we
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  Speaker 2: get to tomorrow's headlines. But I want to start tonight
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  Speaker 2: by looking at the incredible footage of New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: police Inspector Amy Scott giving chase to the Bondi stabber
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  Speaker 2: through the Westfield shopping center last year before taking him down.
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  Speaker 2: The footage was released this afternoon by the coroner. There's
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  Speaker 2: the incredible bravery of Inspector Amy Scott. Not only that
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  Speaker 2: the courage of about a dozen men who joined her
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  Speaker 2: in pursuit of Joel Couci, who by that stage had
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  Speaker 2: already stabbed sixteen people. Have a look at this incredible
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  Speaker 2: footage that was released today. You'll see here that Inspector
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  Speaker 2: Amy Scott is coming up onto the fifth level of
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  Speaker 2: the shopping center, and look at all the men she's
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  Speaker 2: accompanied by. Listen, Joe. These were passers by who found
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  Speaker 2: out what was happening and ran with the police officer
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  Speaker 2: as they chased after Joel Cauchi. Joel Couche, remember, had
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  Speaker 2: a thirty centimeter knife. There he is. There, he runs
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  Speaker 2: past a shopkeeper who is told by Amy Scott quick
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  Speaker 2: get back behind closed doors. Then she tells all the
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  Speaker 2: men who are with her stand back as she's ready herself,
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  Speaker 2: and you'll see in a moment the stabber runs toward her.
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  Speaker 2: She braces, and the footage cuts out just before she shoots.
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  Speaker 2: She fires three shots. The first shot hit Joel Couci,
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  Speaker 2: the second shot hit him again, the third shot hit
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  Speaker 2: a pop plant behind him. But it demonstrates the bravery
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  Speaker 2: not just of that police officer. She told the inquest
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  Speaker 2: that she thought for sure she would die. She didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a protective vest, she didn't have a partner with her,
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  Speaker 2: though she did, as we saw have a dozen passes
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  Speaker 2: by who all joined her in pursuit. But quite incredible
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  Speaker 2: bravery and good on all those men for joining with
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  Speaker 2: her and standing up with her in that moment.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely we know the bollard men.
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  Speaker 4: We knew of them the weekend that this happened, those
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  Speaker 4: guys grabbing the ballard, trying to prevent him from getting
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  Speaker 4: to another level. Now we see that so many more
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  Speaker 4: men were ready to charge into well they didn't even
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  Speaker 4: know what, I don't think at that point, but they
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  Speaker 4: would have known that at least one lone stabber was
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  Speaker 4: on the loose. They see a they say, we're with
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  Speaker 4: you all the way, and they're charging into the line
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  Speaker 4: of fire with her. So it's just wonderful to see
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  Speaker 4: this kind of heroism amongst everyday Aussies who were just
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  Speaker 4: there to do some shopping. Little did they know that
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  Speaker 4: that day would call on every bit of guns they
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  Speaker 4: had to ensure the safety of the rest of the
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  Speaker 4: people in the westfield that day.
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  Speaker 3: It's an extraordinary thing. Like when you look at that
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  Speaker 3: loan cop there, who is literally the thin blue line,
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  Speaker 3: as thin as a guests. So I know, as we say,
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  Speaker 3: no protective vest she thinks she's going to die. Thirty
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  Speaker 3: centimeters is a very very long knife, and it is
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  Speaker 3: very very difficult to shoot someone when they are moving
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  Speaker 3: very very fast, charging and charging at you, and to
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  Speaker 3: be able to hold your nerve and hold the gun
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  Speaker 3: steady and resist every impulse in your body, every instinct
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  Speaker 3: in your body to get out of the way, to
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  Speaker 3: be able to stand that and think, right, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to die, but I have to get this
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  Speaker 3: shot off. And again she also has because when the
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  Speaker 3: actual moment comes, it's not the you know, she has
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  Speaker 3: an obligation to also defend and protect the men standing
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  Speaker 3: behind her. As much as they are there to sort
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  Speaker 3: of a sister, she has to protect them from that
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  Speaker 3: guy running at her as well. So it's just this
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  Speaker 3: incredible moment in time where she has literally all these
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  Speaker 3: lives in her hands.
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  Speaker 2: The other part of that novel, just before he returns
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  Speaker 2: towards her and runs at her, there was a woman
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  Speaker 2: with a baby in a pram and Joel Couchi had
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  Speaker 2: turned his attention to that woman. She's not shown in
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  Speaker 2: the vision. She's out of sight and Amy Scott yells
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  Speaker 2: out to get the man's intention. She mouths the word
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  Speaker 2: run to the woman with the pram and that's when
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  Speaker 2: Joel Couchi starts running back towards Amy Scott. So she
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  Speaker 2: invited him to come at her rather than the woman
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  Speaker 2: with the baby in the pram.
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  Speaker 4: Incredible bravery indeed, and goodness knows have happened if she
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  Speaker 4: hadn't done that.
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  Speaker 1: Like you say, Joe, every.
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  Speaker 4: Single cell in your body would be screaming run the
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  Speaker 4: other way. But she knew she was the only one
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  Speaker 4: with a weapon that could defeat this guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's just incredible, incredible footage.
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  Speaker 4: And also you can't be in your right mind as
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  Speaker 4: we know that Joel Councy wasn't to charge at a
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  Speaker 4: cop like that. You had to have got in that
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  Speaker 4: person's armed they're able to take you down.
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  Speaker 1: And yet that's what he chose.
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  Speaker 5: You.
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  Speaker 2: It was only six meters away from her when she
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  Speaker 2: got the first shot off. When you think of a
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  Speaker 2: man running as full pelt.
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  Speaker 3: Again, terrifying, you see how that's right? Yeah, it just
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  Speaker 3: things like this, it's so chaotic and they just make
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  Speaker 3: no sense whatsoever. I mean, this is a guy who
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  Speaker 3: just should have been on his meds and for whatever
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  Speaker 3: reason he wasn't and we'll get to the bottom of
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  Speaker 3: that at the end of this inquest. And you desperately
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  Speaker 3: need something to try to attach some meaning to just
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  Speaker 3: horrible random events like this. And I think what Amy
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  Speaker 3: Scott did was actually give the community and give the
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  Speaker 3: nation something to kind of sort of hold on to,
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  Speaker 3: to help make sense of what is really a completely
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  Speaker 3: senseless act. And so I think she actually performs without
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  Speaker 3: getting to touch you feel about it, but I think
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  Speaker 3: she actually helps a whole kind of community in Sydney,
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  Speaker 3: in the Eastern suburbs, but also a whole nation thing.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, the world's not just not just a
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  Speaker 3: sort of terrifying place where you can be killed at
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  Speaker 3: any moment, because there are people like her who've devoted
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  Speaker 3: their life to.
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  Speaker 2: Say and how police get a lot of criticism, but
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  Speaker 2: thank god for police officers like Amy Scott.
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  Speaker 1: You're here an absolute hero.
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  Speaker 4: Well, after some last minute hiccups that threatened you do
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  Speaker 4: raile it again. The US and Ukraine have today signed
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  Speaker 4: off on the highly controversial and very much anticipated minerals deal. Now,
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  Speaker 4: just last week, Trump was blasting Zelenski via his truth
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  Speaker 4: social platform, saying this was ridiculous, it was taking way
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  Speaker 4: too long.
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  Speaker 1: It was at least three weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Late, and Zelensky had to sign it immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Immediately being in capitals, as we.
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  Speaker 4: Know, is Trump's preferred method imation. But it appears that
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  Speaker 4: the meeting between the two leaders, which took place at
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  Speaker 4: the Vatican over the weekend around the Pope's funeral, must
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  Speaker 4: have worked a treat.
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  Speaker 1: The US did not budge on their terms for this deal.
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  Speaker 4: They demanded that all aspects on the table be agreed
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  Speaker 4: to by Kiev, and that did indeed happen today, his
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  Speaker 4: US Treasury Secretary Scott Besant saying that this is very
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  Speaker 4: much hoped this is the first step in the right
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  Speaker 4: direction toward negotiated peace in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: At last, here he is I.
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  Speaker 6: Am glad to announce the signing of today's historic economic
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  Speaker 6: Partnership agreement between the United States and Ukraine, establishing the
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  Speaker 6: United States Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund. Today's agreement signals to
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  Speaker 6: Russian leadership that the Trump administration is committed to a
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  Speaker 6: peace process centered on a free, sovereign and prosperous Ukraine
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  Speaker 6: over the long term.
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  Speaker 4: And as Trump is well known for, he is counting
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  Speaker 4: his chickens, saying peace is nigh and you have me
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  Speaker 4: to thank for it. Here he is talking to an
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  Speaker 4: ABC reporter and.
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  Speaker 1: Montez of me.
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  Speaker 7: I do believe that he's willing to stop the fighting,
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  Speaker 7: don't begin.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to say anything. Vladimir Putin wants peace.
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  Speaker 7: I think he does.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I think still.
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  Speaker 7: I was not happy what I saw Putin shooting missiles
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  Speaker 7: into a few towns and cities, and that was not
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  Speaker 7: something that I like seeing, and I thought it was inappropriate.
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  Speaker 4: Inappropriate, that's a bit of an understatement, but it's Trump.
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  Speaker 4: And of course he couldn't finish the interview without pointing
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  Speaker 4: out the yes, this is all thanks to me, as
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  Speaker 4: opposed to Biden, who couldn't even climb a flight of stairs.
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  Speaker 7: Do you think the reputation of the United States has
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  Speaker 7: gone down under your presidency? No, I think it's gone
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  Speaker 7: way up, and I think we're a respected country again.
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  Speaker 7: We were left at all over the world. We had
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  Speaker 7: a president that couldn't walk up a flight of stairs,
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  Speaker 7: couldn't walk down a flight of stairs, couldn't walk across
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  Speaker 7: the stage without falling. We had a president that was
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  Speaker 7: grossly incompetent.
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  Speaker 3: You knew it.
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  Speaker 7: I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
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  Speaker 7: didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
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  Speaker 4: He never misses an opportunity to slip that knife in,
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  Speaker 4: does he, even while he's doing an interview with the
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  Speaker 4: very platform that he's trying to d platform. But is
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  Speaker 4: this the beginning of the end of the Russia Ukraine War?
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  Speaker 3: Well, to be fair to Donald Trump and Ibas, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he was calling just Ibas a news fight news.
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  Speaker 3: I think he was calling everybody's fight news. But look,
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  Speaker 3: it could be. I mean, this is the thing with Trump,
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  Speaker 3: you never know, and this is why the people think
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  Speaker 3: he's all able and he's a monster and he's got
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  Speaker 3: some sinister plan to take over the world, or he's
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  Speaker 3: a fascist. Who's going to say Democrats crazy left? Is
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  Speaker 3: you know anyone? But they're wrong. But also people who
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  Speaker 3: think that he's the messiah and he's got a quick
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  Speaker 3: fix that's going to solve everything. Equally, so it's Trump,
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  Speaker 3: it is Trump, and he will go all in one way,
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  Speaker 3: and if that doesn't work, he will go all in
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  Speaker 3: the other way. And like Winston Churchill famously said during
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  Speaker 3: World War II when he was trying to get the
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  Speaker 3: Americans into the war on the Ally side, and they
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  Speaker 3: were sort of holding out, and someone said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're worried that the Americans aren't actually going to come
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  Speaker 3: to party. Is no, no, no, The Americans will always
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  Speaker 3: do the right thing after they've tried everything else. And
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of like what Trump did. He goes, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell that'd be a putin to
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  Speaker 3: stop bombing. And then he doesn't. He goes, oh right,
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  Speaker 3: it turns out he is an asshole. And I'll go
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  Speaker 3: back and talk to Silenski.
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  Speaker 2: What I want to know, Joe, and you're a good Catholic,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe he can help me out with this. But
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  Speaker 2: if this does bring about peace in Europe, does Pope
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  Speaker 2: Francis get a sainthood because this would be a mirror
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  Speaker 2: that he would have performed. After all, it was at
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  Speaker 2: his funeral. That's right that Zelensky and Trump sort of
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  Speaker 2: smoked the peace pipe, because it was last February when
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  Speaker 2: Zelensky went to the White House and it looked like,
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  Speaker 2: for all money, Trump would never deal with Zelensky and
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing was just absolute mess. But they got
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  Speaker 2: together in an unscheduled meeting before the Pope's funeral.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. I'll have to I'll have to get
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  Speaker 3: pope's final miric. I'll have to check canon law. But
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  Speaker 3: do you actually have to perform the miracle in your
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  Speaker 3: lifetime or can you do it? I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: a lifetime and one behind the grade.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right. So we'd have to find money
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  Speaker 3: in his lifetime. But an interesting fact aside from whether,
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  Speaker 3: of course Pope, of course Pope Francis should be sainted,
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  Speaker 3: because he's a saintly man, but one of the key
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  Speaker 3: bulwarks of the Ukrainian claim to national nationhood is that
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  Speaker 3: it's got it's really its own sort of really weird
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  Speaker 3: church called the Unit Church, which is kind of like
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  Speaker 3: halfway between Orthodox and Catholic, and so it's it's a
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  Speaker 3: national church. It is like the National Church of Ukraine.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not like the Catholic Church which is sort
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  Speaker 3: of everywhere or Protestantism or whatever. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 3: the Church of England. So it's Catholic, it belongs to Ukraine.
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  Speaker 3: It's just in Ukraine. It dates back to the Kievan
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  Speaker 3: russ period, which is when the Russians and the Ukrainians
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  Speaker 3: argue over you know, who really started as Kevin Norris, so,
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  Speaker 3: as you know, was Russians in Kiev. That's why you know,
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  Speaker 3: Ukraine and Kiev have always been a part of Russia.
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  Speaker 3: But there is this particular church, it's only in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 3: It's called the Unit Church, and it is Orthodox. It
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  Speaker 3: has an Orthodox mass, but it is affiliated with the Vaticans,
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  Speaker 3: so it is in complete communion with the Vagant so
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  Speaker 3: it is considered as part of a Catholic Church, although
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  Speaker 3: it acts as an Orthodox church, and that makes it unique,
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  Speaker 3: and it makes you uniquely Ukrainian. Therefore, Ukraine has a
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  Speaker 3: unique national identity that proves that it is an independent country.
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  Speaker 3: So the logic goes, so there you go, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Well you expect that, did you on a Saturday Ecclesiastical Lessons.
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  Speaker 8: Day?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Trump's trying to win the war, or help Zelenski
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  Speaker 2: win the war in Europe. He's also trying to win
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  Speaker 2: the war at home against violent, criminal, illegal aliens. And
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  Speaker 2: of course Trump was elected on a promise that he
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  Speaker 2: would get rid of especially illegal aliens who'd committed crimes
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  Speaker 2: from the country, and he's been pretty successful But what's
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  Speaker 2: curious is the way the White House are advertising their success.
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  Speaker 2: Have look at this, They've been putting on the White
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  Speaker 2: House lawns, posters advertising arrested illegal alien, then a photograph
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  Speaker 2: or a mug shot of the illegal alien who's been deported,
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  Speaker 2: and the crime that they had committed while in the
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  Speaker 2: United States is listed there as well. Stephen Miller, who's
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  Speaker 2: from the Trump administration, says that they are absolutely committed
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  Speaker 2: to keeping on expelling these violent illegal aliens.
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  Speaker 9: Those sanctimonious, pompous jerks in the left wing corporate press
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  Speaker 9: refuse to cover any of these crimes, refuse to interview
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  Speaker 9: or cover any of their victims, do not demonstrate an
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  Speaker 9: ounce of human empathy for any of the suffering that
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  Speaker 9: Joe Biden's border invasion, the Democrat Party's border invasion, has
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  Speaker 9: wrought on this country, and so the White House. So
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  Speaker 9: President Trump's White House has forced brilliantly these outlets to
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  Speaker 9: acknowledge these crimes, to acknowledge these atrocities by putting these posters,
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  Speaker 9: these mugshots, and their criminal histories right behind them as
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  Speaker 9: they stand there and do their shots every single day.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not that easy to get the mainstream media
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  Speaker 2: to acknowledge that Trump is doing a good job expelling
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  Speaker 2: these volunt illegal aliens, because well, he look at the
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  Speaker 2: way see Ann Covetant.
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  Speaker 10: The Trump administration is approaching its first one hundred day
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  Speaker 10: mark with a full court press on the issue of
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  Speaker 10: illegal immigration, and they really don't want you to miss it.
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  Speaker 10: So they subtly and teastfully dacked the White House North
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  Speaker 10: line with dozens of yurid signs featuring photos of people
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  Speaker 10: that the Trump administration claims are in the country illegally.
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  Speaker 2: CNN said because the names of the illegal aliens were
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  Speaker 2: not on the signs, they couldn't confirm that they were
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  Speaker 2: actual criminals who'd committed the crimes alleged on the posters. Therefore,
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  Speaker 2: they blurred out the images just to be on the
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  Speaker 2: safe side. Funny though, is they didn't blur out the
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  Speaker 2: image of say, Kyle Rittenhouse, who famously was lampooned by
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  Speaker 2: CNN when he defended himself during the Black Lives Matter riots.
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  Speaker 2: CNN and outlets like them simply hate the truth, and
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  Speaker 2: you get the idea they hate Americans. They're more concerned
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  Speaker 2: about protecting the identities of murderers and rapists who, in addition,
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any right to be in the country than
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  Speaker 2: they are about telling the truth to the American people
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  Speaker 2: they're supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: Serve artily bizarre.
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  Speaker 4: It all depends on the narrative you're pushing, mac, but
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  Speaker 4: the irony of their By doing that, they're actually proving
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  Speaker 4: why the Trump administration has gone to these lengths to
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  Speaker 4: let the American people know we're hit. Now one hundred daymark,
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  Speaker 4: here's one hundred of the worst that we have so
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  Speaker 4: far gotten our hands on illegal aliens who have committed
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  Speaker 4: the most heinous crimes in our country.
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  Speaker 1: We have arrested them. What CNN has also done.
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  Speaker 4: Basically by making that move saying, oh, well, we couldn't
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  Speaker 4: verify it, you're pretty much accusing the Trump administration of
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  Speaker 4: just whacking up photos of people that may or may
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  Speaker 4: not have been arrested, may or may not have been guilty.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what a thing to accuse them of. What
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  Speaker 4: though they've just made it up, They've photoshopped these people
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  Speaker 4: or for whatever ridiculous reason they think. Here's James Blair,
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  Speaker 4: White House Deputy Chief of Staff, again explaining why the
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  Speaker 4: Trump administration has done this and why they will continue
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  Speaker 4: to do this because unless they do, the mainstream media
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  Speaker 4: in America isn't gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you want people to see that? Why do
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  Speaker 3: you want the press to see that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, the mainstream media, as you know, Brian, doesn't
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  Speaker 5: want to cover this story. What we've done is get
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  Speaker 5: violent criminals and other low lives on the street. It's
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  Speaker 5: literally a murderer's row here on the line of the
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  Speaker 5: White House. And these are people that we've taken out
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  Speaker 5: of the country since we came into office.
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  Speaker 4: This is what people voted for. And if the media
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  Speaker 4: isn't going to cover it, the Trump administration is taking
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  Speaker 4: it into their own hands. And I love that they
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  Speaker 4: deliberately set this up where they know all the reporters
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: come to the White House to shoot their stories, so
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: they've got these in the background no.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Matter where they try to stand to do.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Their reporting on the White House as happenings that day.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely genius, Joe, It is genius.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: And I was actually trying to scrutinize all the crimes
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: that these people were accused of or convicted of, and
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: they're all pretty bad. Like I kept thinking, sooner or like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: there's going to be like you know, robbery, jaywalking, pickpocketing,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and they are all literally murder, rape, child sex offenses.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: So it's very I don't know how you I make
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: a case that these people should be allowed to claim asylum.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, there's we've got enough rapists and
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: murderers in our own society without putting up with more.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I think there's any huge argument for bringing in good people.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: That's another story. But the fact that CNN didn't even
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: say criminals or ravens or murders or you know, people
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: accused of alleged They just called them, just said these
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: are the people that John Trump says that they've detained
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: and deported. It's well, they're kind of there because of
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: one particular distinguishing characteristic, Like if they were all, you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: they're all women, would see them the people, if they
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: were all, you know, elder with as the people, if
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: they're all, you know, if it was black lives matters, Oh,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: here are all the people who have been randomly killed
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: by police. It just seems very like the willful ignoring
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: of the entire point seemed to be quite literally, well,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: they might as well blurt out everything you.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Would think CNN with all of their reporting resources could
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: find out fairly quickly. There's only one hundred people. They've
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: got to verify these photographs matching the name.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: And well presumably the White House to just give them
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: a list exactly they want to get it out there.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: We'll staying in the US. Tim Waltz, Kamala Harris's running
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: mate at the last election, explained today why he was
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: her running mate, and in doing so inadvertently explained why
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the Democrats not only lost the last election but will
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: continue losing elections.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I knew I was on the ticket.
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: I would argue because we did a lot of amazing
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: progressive things in Minnesota, the improved people's lives. But I
• 19:59
  Speaker 11: also was on the I could, quite honestly, you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 11: because I could code talk to white guys watching football
• 20:05
  Speaker 11: fixing their truck during that that I could put them
• 20:08
  Speaker 11: at ease. I was the permission structure to say, look,
• 20:11
  Speaker 11: you can do this and vote for this.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Code talk and permission. There's a man who knows absolutely
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: nothing about men. But I suppose when your signature move
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: is jazz hands, and remember he tried to load a
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: shotgun with his groin, and then of course he's nicknamed tampon.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Tim because of his penchant for putting tampon bins in
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: boys toilets in his home state of Minnesota. It was
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: probably a weird choice to try and appeal to white
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: guys who like sport and trucking. Weirdest of all was
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: imagining that his primary value was that he was white
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and a male, rather than say his experience or his.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Ideas or out of the kind of identity politics I
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: could get behind.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That is why the Democrats will be out of office
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: for a long long time. If there's still thinking that's
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the difference, imagine thinking that men need you to code
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: for them or give them permission to vote for a
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: black woman. White blokes who loves sports and trucks don't
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: need code, They just need plain truth. And the truth
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: is that Tim Watz was never the guy to appeal
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: to the average American bloke.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Indeed, and the fact that the average white guy living
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: in America who does love trucks, who does love sport,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: would find an affinity with a guy like Tim Waltz,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: like they literally were.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Like, Okay, well we've got a black.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Woman running for president, so we're going to get a
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: middle aged white guy as her.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: VP running mate.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Tick that box identity politics for the win. I'm sure
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: people will find him really relatable. He's the white guy
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: to find relatable and be like, yeah, I'm going to
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: vote for them because I see myself reflected in this
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: absolute bumbling fool. Remember Tim Waltz is the guy who
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: called himself a knucklehead.
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: I will be the first to tell you I have
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: poured my heart into my community.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I've tried to do the.
• 22:06
  Speaker 11: Best I can, but I've not been perfect, and I'm
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: a knucklehead at times.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Tell us something we don't know, mate, I mean, my.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Goodness, it's a very it's a very sort of typic.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I despise it, but it's a very sort of typical
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: new progressive left as opposed to just good old fashioned,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: you know, of the people, by the people, for the people.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: But where there's there's this idea that elections are kind
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: of a game, they're kind of like an algorithm, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: that if you and you can listen the way they speak,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: listen to the way get Up speaks. For example, in
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: its campaign strategy went in BOMBARDSI with emails and tells
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: you how we're going to donate, and if we just
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: get six dollars here and six dollars there, and you know,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you listen to the way they were Obama team, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: they did it very effectively, but talked about the ground game.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I mean they did that effectively because I had a
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: candidate who could actually connect with normal people. But this
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: idea that I'm the sort of Rosetta stone for for
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you know, straight white, middle aged mass and men who
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: make up you know, the vast majority of the sort
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: of middle American rust belt states that we need to win.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: You know, I know how to you know, I know
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: how to communicate with them. How about just being one
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: of them? How about this being normal? And there's just
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: after the election, there was a big push on by
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: some in the Democrats, sadly not the side of the
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: party that I think Tim Wilts and Kamala are on,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: but where they said, what the hell are we doing?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: We have screwed up everything. We need to get out.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: We need to go to the gun shows, we need
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: to get out there in the four wheel drives. We
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: need to you know, we need to actually get into
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: the community we are. We've got to stop, you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: hanging around in all our cool sort of East Coast
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: you know, salons and brunch spots talking about how we
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: can you know, secretly communicate and use people as vessels
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: to harness these people and we've got to get out
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: there and live among them. How's that for a good idea?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: It's an amazing idea. I mean, regardless of policies, Liz,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: who is the average bloke in the US can to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: identify with Tim Wiltz or jd Evans.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I think we have our answer in the election results.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I think we got it loud and clear.
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: In terrible timing for the Dutton campaign. We know that
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the Labor Party has been trying to tie him.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Very hard with the oh he's so Trump like brush.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Today some undercover reporters poosing as prospective clients was speaking
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: to Chris Lasovita, who was a veteran Republican strategist, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: he thought it would be appropriate to tell them, again,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: not knowing they were undercover reporters, that he had in
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: fact advised the Dutton campaign before it all kicked off
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: earlier this year.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Here he is, I.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: Was in Australia two weeks ago helping the Liberal Party
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: there on some of their structural issues that they're they
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: were having with Peter Dutton and see things somewhat seemed
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: to be moving in the right direction. There.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine imagine the labor camp at the moment.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Being like, see, we told you.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: He's even getting firsthand advice from one of Trump's chief
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: teams strategists. We told you he was basically the Australian Trumps.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: It's terrible time.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: It actually was someone in the labor camp who sent
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: it to me. So yes, they are very much doing that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: But it is interesting is that because there's a whole
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: lot of this. There's all these sort of postmortems coming
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: out about what went wrong with the Dutton campaign before
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the election has even been held. So you know, usually
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the definition of post bortem is, you know, after death.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: In this case, the patient is still alive and they're
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out what killed it. But one of them,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I think clearly is that there was a sort of
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: echo chamber around Dunton. There was a lack of communication
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: between Dutton and his office and campaign HQ, although of
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: course there are plenty who are blaming Campound, HQU and
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: the rest of Shadow Cabinet whatever whatever, whatever. But you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: if indeed that's true and they are taking this sort
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: of advice that you know, everyone wants to see public
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: servants being forced back to the office. And you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: if you're stand in front of Australian flag, everyone I'll
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: vote for you, or if you're crackdown and welcomes to country,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: that's what's going to get people in the final vote
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: swinging behind you. Story kind of checks out, maybe, Well, poor.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Old Angus Taylor and Jane Hume were trying to announce
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: the Coalition's costings today, but the issue of Trump, of course,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: came up and they were asked about the Coalition getting
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: advice from Trump's strategists.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Been interested in some political advice from someone who's on
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: a very successful campaign.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I've not been partied.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I think campaign teams and campaign teams talk to each
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: other all the time, particularly center right campaign tams from.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Right around the world. This would not be an unusual thing.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It's not something that as up would be a part
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I think Jane Hume is right, they get advice from
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: all over the world with sort of like minded political parties.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Nothing to it, but it seems that people do think
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: there's something to it because clearly it's worked against the Coalition.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and it comes up in all the research.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And also, I really like Jame Hume. I don't want
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: to have a crack at it. But Angus Taylor, again,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: this is an election in which you are trying to
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: distance yourself from Donald Trump or anything to do with it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Angus Taylor has just said, oh, look, we don't know
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: anything about that. You know, I wouldn't know. Move on.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And as he's about finished, Jane hum then jumps in
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: and says, oh, yes, parties meet with each other from
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: other parties, from different countries meet with each other all
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: the time, so like they've just sort of been stopped
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and moved on. But now suddenly she's kind of admitted
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: that they did meet with each other. And that's and
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: again I don't want to go Jane. I do love you, Jane,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: but it seems to me just an example that we've
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: seen time and time again front benches contradicting themselves on policies,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: backflipping on policies where they're just not either often not
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: agreeing with each other or not agreeing even with themselves
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: from one day to the next, and again from whichever
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: side of politics you're on. That's just a really, really
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: sloppy campaign, and I'm not the only one saying that they're
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: a whole bundred people. Stand before we move on, though,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I very quickly want to say I've been obsessed and
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: changing the phone about Pope Francis and whether or not,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Oh you've become a saint? Right, so, because I thought,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I think you have to commit the miracles when you're alive.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: So it is you get audited after you die, but
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: then they go back through your life and they say, right,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: have you have you done any miracles? And if if
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: you do two, then you qualify for sainthood. And yes, okay,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Zelenski and Trump met at Pope Francis's funeral after he
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: is dead. But who did the invite list? If Pope
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: frances was the one who invited them both, i'd like
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: them that would count one down, one to go? Could
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: anyway I'd like to apologize to everyone in the controller
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: room for that. I probably right up. Let me write
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: a long Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi has not ruled out
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: raising taxes amid debarcle decade of sorry sorry, I just
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: assumed it was debarkle, A decade of deficits and soaring debts.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Let's up listening to the grad This is Anthony Albanese
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: saying whether or not he will categorically rule out any
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: new taxes. Do you undertake not to raise any taxes?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Well, what we've got and it is our policies out
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: there for all.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: To see, So you won't raise any taxes.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: So that what we've got out there, Andrew, is lower taxes.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: See that answer was so assured, so completely cut and drive,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: so black of why he said yes before Andrew Klenell
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: had even finished answered asking the question, how am I
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: what more of a rule out do you need? People?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Of course he has to leave open the option of
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: increasing taxes because it's been such a spendethon in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: lead up to Saturday that how else do they pay
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: for all of this stuff? They spend and tax and
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure they know much else.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: No, Well, the government only has your money. It doesn't
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: have anybody else's money. And they love driving up that debt,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: don't they.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, we're about to reach a record levels of
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: debt here in this country and we can thank the
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: alban Easy government.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Which saving your life no standards.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Of saving our lives.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: COVID's in the past buddy, if you're trying to make
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: a COVID.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Reference, not your livelihoods, your your ability to put food
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: on the table. I believe taking it rain.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: A little less.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: There would be even less were it not for the
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: government's fiscally reckless.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Est not ruling out any tax cuts, and it seems
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: increasingly so that labor aren't ruling out a return of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the Indigenous Voice to Parliament. Yesterday, Penny Wong left open
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the possibility that it could be brought back. She speculated
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: that in ten years time we'll all be wondering what
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the fuss is all about. It's almost inevitable. She implied
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: that the Voice to Parliament would at some stage be resurrected,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and today a second senior government minister hinted that the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Voice would return. Have listened to Anika Wells, she's the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Minister for Aged Care.
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: The Voice in the form that we took to the
• 30:57
  Speaker 12: referendum is gone. We respect the opinions and the votes
• 31:01
  Speaker 12: of people. They made that very clear. But we're always
• 31:03
  Speaker 12: looking for ways to help First Nations people and for
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: that policy to be tangible, incredible.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: The Voice in the form it was presented at the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: referendum is gone, but of course that leaves open Joe
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the possibility there could be a voice in another form.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Labor could legislate it. Now, either they are going to
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: do this, and they're so confident they're going to win
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: on Saturday, they've decided, you know what, we can start
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: just dropping hints about this so that when we do
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: do it, we can't be accused of being secretive about it,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: or they are every bit of sloppy as you claim
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: the coalitioner.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the latter. Unfortunately, so there is
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: not that there. I can guarantee there is no secret
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: plan to bring back the Voice, and it is unfortunate
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: that a couple of ministers have not been careful with
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: their language and have been trying to sort of have
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: a bit of a bed each to ways because they
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: don't want to seem like they're heartless on Indigenous affairs
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: and they've just given up on it, so they say, oh, no,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: we're not doing the voice, but don't worry, we're going
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: to do lots of other really good stuff. They haven't
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: been clear and clear and sure and firm enough in
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: the way that they have said that, so you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I've had conversations with the newsroom about you know, crazy
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: SURMOUNTI commosations, so you know, editors saying, you know, well,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: what does she mean by you know, in the form
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: that you know, in the form that it went to
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: the last election. Is it in the form? And everyone's saying, right,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: so there'll be there will be a voice, but not
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: in the form that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: It was either in the constitution or was legislative, the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: two forms that were pretty But.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: We don't know, We have no idea what she actually
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: means by that. I actually suspect it's just a bit
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: of a word sout. She's saying, well, I know this
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: is a bit of a words out, because there is
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: no absolutely no way there's going to be a voice.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I have privately been assured and against at a time
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: when I when I was saying, well, how about we
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: do this, how about we do that? Privately being assured
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: by the most senior office holders in the country, No,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: we are not doing that.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: People assure you that we'd get a two hundred and
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: seventy five dollars rebate from our Christy increase on Errold.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: They did not, And if they had, I would have said,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: for the love of God, don't put a specific.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Number on it, but a Liberal party are already putting
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: out as of tonight adversements fifteen seconds featuring Senator Price
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: warning people that this is on the agenda. She says,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: we rejected division once, we can reject it again. Could
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: this be a last minute gasp of hope for the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: coalition lease?
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't think so, because, as Joe has said,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: ad nauseum and Australians in every poll a test, the
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: number one issue going to the election is cost of living.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: And when it's hitting your hip pocket as hard as
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: it is now, all the culture Wars stuff does go
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: out the window. People are going to vote for what
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: they see is the most feasible way forward. How much
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: is it going to affect me monetarily? That's what it
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: boils down to. That's what will decide this election. Absolutely
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: black and white done. But before we go to an
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: ad break, there has been a polling room with assault
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: at pre Pole at a seat in Pakenem in Victoria.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: This is the federal seat of Latrobe, I should say,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: but the incident took place in Paknam.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: As we know, Prepole can get.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Pretty heated, but those are usually verbal stouches, not physical However,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: someone rocking up to Pakenham to vote today took great
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: exception to the trumpets of patriots advertisements which included that
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: they were going to should they be elected, to make
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: sure that there was record cuts to immigration. This guy
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: decided to take matters into his own hands by getting physical.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: We were built on multiculturalism.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these ads aren't. Who are Australia's about?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: My goodness? Very heated.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Indeed, let's hope nobody is taking notes and decides to
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: behave similarly. But something that always gets me whenever people
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: make that illustration Australia.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Was built on immigration.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: There is a vast difference between today's immigration and the
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: settlers of the past, which were very.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Much Anglo Celtic.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: That's from where they came and gave their blood, sweat
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: and tears in order to build what we now know
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: is modern Australia. I hate it when people try and
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: draw that similar It's not. It's completely differently. But you
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: were going to say something, Joan, isn't.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: The point that what how can you be there saying
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: how dare you have these posters there? How do you
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: have these corfully to This is not what Australia is about,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: But Australia is about kicking the shit out of election
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: volunteers because you disagree with them. Like, is that what
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Australia is? I mean to represent Australia and you uncultured brute,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I'm going to kick you? Are you not being progressive enough?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. When I saw the fight, I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: just figured that was a guy who had just gotten
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: sick of trumpet of patriots spamming his phone with those
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: text messages that would finally had enough reckon. A few
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of us would identify with that. We're to go to
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: a break. When we come back, we look at what's
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: making news tomorrow, including the unusual excuse some public servants
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: are giving for not wanting to go back to working
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: in their offices.
• 36:27
  Speaker 13: That's going to have it a month.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a look at what's making news in
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's papers, and Liz. The front page of Tomorrow's Australian
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: has a story about the Labor Party's links with China.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Indeed, what are you doing the week before the election? Well,
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: let's read PM Wong Diane with CCP friends tell us
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: more Labor has courted Beijing backed property developers and senior
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: figures in the Chinese Communist parties foreign influence arm in
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: a pre election push to secure Australian Chinese donations and
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: lock in the community's votes in key seats. The Australian
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: can reveal Anthony Albanesi celebrated his birthday in March had
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: an intimate lunch with the Chinese Building Association of New
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: South Wales, which has close ties to state run construction
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: firms in China. It goes on to say that Foreign
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Minister Penny Wong enjoyed Yamcha in Brisbane last month with
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: ALP donor Peter ZiU Zeng, the president of a Chinese
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: cultural association linked to the CCP's United Front Work Department.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: When is labor going to get a clue that now's
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: not a good time. You've got Minister Claro O'Neill and
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: doctor Monique Ryan now both being investigated by the AEC.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: They've got a task force onto it regarding this CCP
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: linked Hube association that was helping them with volunteers for
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: both of them campaigns. And now we've got this on
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: the front page of the OS less than forty eight hours.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they did. It was in March though they
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: didn't go. They went out to dinner this week.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Sure, but it's it's timely to let people know.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Now, that's why the Australian did it.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: There's at least ten seats where Chinese votes are crucial
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: to the outcome. And of course.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Chisholm put that column along pretty well read chist.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: He's a handsome boy and he's an example to the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: world leaders as to how one also the US alliance
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: with their Chinese.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Very fine man according to US Dave McDonald canders who
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: doesn't need a couple of pandas you know, it's a
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: black and white issue.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Very very friendly.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Now onto more election related matters, and the cans Post
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: is actually right in the center of Australian political history.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Here experts pretty close race in Far North Queensland seat
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: like hard like Art candidates, see how they do that.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: It's actually like heart, but they say like hard because
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: it's like they're going hard.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: We get it, we get it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: Like Art.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Candidates put infrastructure on health at the forefront of their
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: election pledges, but political analysts say it won't be enough
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: to sway the undersided voter. Likehart is held by the
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: OLMP by three point four percent margin, but with the
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: imminent retirement of long standing MP Warrant Nch, the seat
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: has become one of the most marginal in Australia. Central
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Queensland University Senior History in Politics lecturer Joe Collins all
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: good first name, said, both sides of politics that recognize
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: the need to improve infrastructure and healthcare in far North Queensland.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: So the interesting thing here is that as the of
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: knows Warren Inch is so, incumbency in a seat is
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: usually figured to be worth about two or three percent.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: So just the fact that you've been the local member,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: people know your face, You've got your stationary allowance. You
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: can stick in their letterboxes of you, you know, hugging
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: cops and signing things and digging ditches and all that stuff.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Ch is that on steroids. So he was an enormous
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: personal standing, enormous personal popularity. Is seen as a bit
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: of a maverick, so he wasn't just a party stourge.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: He often did his own thing. He often stood up
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: to the party, especially on gay marriage, I think, and
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: also in the when he voted against Malcolm Turnbull for
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton, he wrote on the ballot this is for
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Brendan Nelson and I just like that personal touch that
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: speaks to me anyway. So Warren ench has held this
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: seat pretty much NonStop for the last twenty billion years.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: The only time he lost it was in two thousand
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and seven in the rud Slide, which of course was
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the most seats that Queensland had ever delivered the Labor Party,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and that was because they had one of their own
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: in Kevin Ryd Kevin O seven. So with him gone
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: that three point four percent if we're saying two to
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: three percent for a normal incumbent, let alone someone with
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: a huge personal popularity who's been around for ever, who
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: knows well.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, Scott Morrison pretty much begged Warnich to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: stay in partner and contest the election exactly because I
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: knew if Warnich wasn't there that seat would probably fall.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: It looks like it may well fall on Saturday. Let's
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: go to the front page of tomorrow's Herald's son. If
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: you're sick of Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanezi, well you
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: don't have to worry about what they're saying. You can
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: read what their partners are saying. The men we know
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and Love says the headline Leaders partners write exclusively for us.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I've got a question for you, Joe on this one.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Curly Dutton and Jody Hayden are writing for The Herald's son,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: do you reckon they would sit down with their laptop
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: and write the words themselves.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: So you're implying that to.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Be honest, that you're betting someone does it for them.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: They would give it aersonal touch.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Would be surprised that there would be someone who would
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: look over a sort of polish it and make sure
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: they weren't saying anything ridiculous, like you know, you know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Curately doesn't saying I think working from home is wonderful.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I've been doing it for twenty or you know, JODI's saying,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: you know, these tax cuts are pathetic. I couldn't even
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: get a cup of coffee. So they'd be someone who
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: goes through it, make sure they're not saying anything that
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: goes against party policy or is too hot or too
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: out there. But no, in most I don't know in
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: this exact case, but I know in big things like
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: that this that are seen to be either personal or
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: that are seen to be really really important, politicians take
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: great pride in being the ones who actually do it themselves.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: So if you take example the apology to the Soul
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and Generation that Kevin Rudd did, he wrote that himself,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: and he wrote it himself in a way because he
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: knew he had to write it himself, do you know
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like he wrote it himself because it
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: was important that he wrote it himself, and so he
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: wrote it himself. It doesn't matter whether the words would
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: have been any better or worse than if someone else
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: had written it, but he knew it was something that
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: for posterity was important that the Prime Minister actually did themselves.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: And I suspect this would have been the same thing,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: partly because I think they probably would have had a
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: bit of fun and enjoyed doing it, and partly because
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: if it had it turned out that this was that
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: there was any sort of ghost writer involved in this,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: the whole thing would have been blown up. But I
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: just if we could quickly, very quickly, I'm sorry to
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: show the whole front page of the Herald Sign if
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: we can draw it back up again, just the way
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: that the picture splash goes with the splash splash downstairs,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: You've got a picture of the opposition leader with his
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: wife and the Prime minister with his girlfriend, and the
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: giant headline X texts and tears people.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: To pay attention.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: It's very important line between those two stories that people
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: might want to pay attention to.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Just quickly, we've got the Newcastle heralds here we all know.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Premium Men's last August issued an edict that all the
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: state employees were to get back to work. Oh you
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: public servants know, more of them working from home?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Nonsense.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: But now these guys reckon, they've got nowhere to go.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Offices out of space. The splash reads.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Public sector workers say government officers in the Hunter do
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: not have the room to accommodate all staff.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: After the New South.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Wales premier directed workers back to the office, hunting government
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: employees for a lack of office space could be costing
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: the region jobs and say vacant positions are being advertised
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: outside the area without the option to work locally. But
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: the government predictably has denied its Hunter officers have issues,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: saying there is quote.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Enough desk space to meet the needs of staff.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: End quote credibly.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: In order to go back to the office in August
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: last year. That was nine months ago.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Time.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: And also, I bet he did it and he didn't
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: have to come out two weeks later and say we're
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: terribly sorry about that, we got it completely wrong product,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: because that's how do it. Sensibly did a measured, considered way. Now,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: So I just love Christman so much. I know Liz
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: does too, so I feel like I'm speaking for both.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, what is this difference?
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Gold Coast Bulletin now, and this is
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: just an amazing little story. It's the tiniest little postage
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: stamp of a story on the front page, but I
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: just can't get enough of it. Fire Brigade Staffers thirty
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: eight K fraud. It says a former secretary and treasurer
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: emptied her volunteer Fire Brigade bank accounts into her own
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: for quote, personal and financial reasons unquote. A court has heard.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: What are the reasons?
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Are they?
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Their personal and financial being that I wanted the money.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I did it for altruistic reasons.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: She ableited guilty and will be sentenced on July.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I thought it would be safe for mike account.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Why did you take all your money from this bank
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: account and put it in your bank account? Oh, financial reasons?
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: When you go to a When we come back, Kamala
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Harris is making speeches again. God help us. We'll show
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you in just a second. Well, Kamala Harris is back,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: unburdened by what has been and seemingly unburdened by sobriety.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Who saw that video from a couple of weeks ago,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the one of the elephants at the San Diego Zoo
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: during the earthquake.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Google it if you've not seen it. So that scene
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: has been on my mind. Everybody's asking me what you've
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: been thinking about these days.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Well, as soon as they felt the earth shaking beneath
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: their feet, they got in a circle and stood next.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: To each other.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I was going to say America dodged a bullet, but
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I reckon they dodged a nuclear missile. Remember they were
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: marketing her. She's going to bring joy. Could you imagine
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: four years of that kind of joy?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I was captivated by that. What happened? Actually,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: they got in a circle. I'm on the edge of
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: my seat. Now we'll never know.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Joe, it's there's got to be some kind of neurological
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: explanation for this, without a doubt, without a doubt, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: she like, So imagine people say, you know, people say
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: what you been thinking about this whole time? And I
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: say elephants, like she's brain damage? There is something actually
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: not like what is going on? And yes, I presume
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: all the elephants, you know, hug each other and they
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: by by by joining together, they stay strong in turbulent times. Okay,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I can tell you that, I can tell you the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: rest of them. What does that help? How does that
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: do anything?
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: How does that make anything better? What are we all
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: going to do?
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Imagine they could have had Kamala Harris and Tim Watts
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: leading the free world.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine though, we would have had endless entertainment.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Speaking of entertainment, ten year old Duper Wallace from dub
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Chair has taken the gong for second year running for
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: the best goal screecher.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, they actually.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Hold championships in Belgium every single year and he's won
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: twice in a row. And here's why, we're told he
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: faced shift competition this time from his seven year old
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: sister Shelby. Bit of sibling rivalry there, but he is
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: more than passionate about goals. Get this, he's trying to
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: save them.
• 48:41
  Speaker 13: Guls are amazing, birds, but they need our help. They
• 48:46
  Speaker 13: are in decline, so we must learn how to live
• 48:49
  Speaker 13: alongside them.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: I do think Cooper Wallace is overestimating the passion the
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: rest of the Brits probably have.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Do not eat chips around that kid. That's it, from
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: us to the ground, coming up gas The Rid Penny Show.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Good Night,