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Primary Election Day | Just Say No... to Data Centers · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty.
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  Speaker 2: KFI Amma Bill Handle. Here. It is a Tuesday morning,
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  Speaker 2: June second primary election day and a couple of races
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  Speaker 2: that not only are important and well and most of them,
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  Speaker 2: some of them are important. Some I'll go through it
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  Speaker 2: for in a minute or two. But the big races.
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  Speaker 2: The national race that has a lot of important is
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  Speaker 2: California Governor. Interestingly enough, California governor does not have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of influence in a national election. It's Congress. It's
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  Speaker 2: districts that have all the power, because it would the
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  Speaker 2: number of Republicans in Congress is so narrowly more than
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  Speaker 2: the number of Democrats razor thin majority. Any congress person
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  Speaker 2: of one party or the other has tremendous influence. So
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  Speaker 2: here we go today we decide races for governor, LA
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  Speaker 2: mayor and a bunch of other contests that no one's
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  Speaker 2: paying attention to the governor's race. The Democrats are waiting
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  Speaker 2: for a front run runner to emerge in La Mayor.
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  Speaker 2: Karen Bass trying for reelection and is going out and
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  Speaker 2: really hustling. Ballots can be returned to the county election
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  Speaker 2: office by mail or dropped off at more than one
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  Speaker 2: of four hundred ballot drop boxes can also be submitted
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  Speaker 2: a vote center. I am going to vote. I am
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  Speaker 2: going to pull the lever, which of course we don't
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  Speaker 2: have levers anymore. We punch out those little cards and
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  Speaker 2: the vote centers are open seven am to eight pm today,
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  Speaker 2: and if you are in line by the time the
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  Speaker 2: polls close, you're still voting. They don't cut you off. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So we have primary races for eight statewide elected offices,
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  Speaker 2: local county ballot measures, city council, county supervisor contests, and frankly,
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  Speaker 2: this time around, I am less engaged than I have
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  Speaker 2: ever been. I just have fatigue. I have politics fatigue,
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  Speaker 2: which many many people do. Okay, So in the race
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  Speaker 2: for the governor, and this doesn't have I think, too
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  Speaker 2: much import or importance in the national story, but the
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  Speaker 2: California governor has obviously a lot of influence in the
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  Speaker 2: way the state is run, and the way California is
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  Speaker 2: run is looked at by the rest of the country.
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  Speaker 2: So the big story here is recent polls just came out.
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  Speaker 2: Former US Health Secretary Xavier Basera, who was in the
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  Speaker 2: Biden administration, appeared to gain an edge among likely voters.
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  Speaker 2: You have billionaire Democrat Styre, you have former Fox News
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  Speaker 2: hosts political advisor Steve Hilton, and you have a really
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  Speaker 2: short well, the lead is just tiny here with Bisera. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what makes this interesting, as you no doubt have heard of,
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  Speaker 2: California has a very unusual primary method of voting the
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  Speaker 2: top two voters, assuming that no one gets fifty percent
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  Speaker 2: plus one, which is not going to happen. The top
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  Speaker 2: two voters, the top two candidates run in the general
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  Speaker 2: election in November. They can be both the same party,
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  Speaker 2: they can be one party or the other. And the
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  Speaker 2: fear among Democrats is that two Republicans would be running. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that fear has lessened more and more so it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. It's the only issue is who's going
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  Speaker 2: to come in second. Because it looks like Bessarah is
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  Speaker 2: going to win, Bissarah being a Biden Liberal, and this
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  Speaker 2: is what we vote for here in California. Environmental advocate
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  Speaker 2: and billionaire Tom Steyer, who's running on the environment. That's
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  Speaker 2: basically it. Now, I don't think that's enough. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there are allow more issues. And then you have Steve Hilton,
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  Speaker 2: the former Fox News host and he is an TV star,
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  Speaker 2: and he is the Republican, if you will, the most
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  Speaker 2: conservative who has gotten a nod from the president in
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  Speaker 2: the mayor's race where Karen Bass should be a shoe
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  Speaker 2: in for reelection, and then turned out she's got some
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  Speaker 2: big problems. A problem in We're one is homelessness, which
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  Speaker 2: she's actually done a good job of, but people were
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  Speaker 2: homeless in the city. That seems to override everything. Where
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  Speaker 2: she's going to get nailed. That she loses is the
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  Speaker 2: Palisades and the Altadena fires. And why is that well,
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  Speaker 2: because when she ran, she promised she would stay in
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  Speaker 2: the city and not leave the city of la As
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  Speaker 2: the fires exploded, she was in Ghana on a trip
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  Speaker 2: for the government. It was an official trip that the
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  Speaker 2: government put her on, a federal government and she had
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  Speaker 2: gotten wind of the winds and knew that we were
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  Speaker 2: in the worst position of getting a wildfire because not only,
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  Speaker 2: of course the dryness of the brush, but also the
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  Speaker 2: winds were going to whip up. And it was a
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  Speaker 2: red light, red light notice that we are in big danger.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't come out to deal with it. She came
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  Speaker 2: out later and she says she didn't she didn't know,
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  Speaker 2: which is a croc. That's an outright lie. She knew
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  Speaker 2: and she decided to stay in Ghana. That is I
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  Speaker 2: think going to kill her. Absolutely kill her. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 2: basically it. Those are the big stories and we'll come
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  Speaker 2: more about that tomorrow. You've got some other races that
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many people are paying attention to
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General, Lieutenant governor, which is where Gavin Newsom started,
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  Speaker 2: Insurance Commissioner, which is hugely important here in California for
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  Speaker 2: the insurance rates and who is covered and who is not.
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  Speaker 2: It's but we don't pay attention to that. We should
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  Speaker 2: pay attention to a lot more. Okay. Monterey Park. One
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  Speaker 2: of the ballot measures is the city of Monterey Park residents,
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  Speaker 2: if it's voted, will be the first in the nation
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  Speaker 2: in Monterey Park to vote on a permanent ban on
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  Speaker 2: data centers, and if approved, measure NDC would prohibit data
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  Speaker 2: centers within the city limits and its permanent could only
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  Speaker 2: be overturned by another vote. So you see yard signs
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  Speaker 2: saying no data center in English and Chinese, because there
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  Speaker 2: is a big Chinese population in the city of moderrate park,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a wave of opposition going across the country.
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  Speaker 2: You've got towns and counties in the US have instituted
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  Speaker 2: temporary moratoria and other restrictions, but only a handful have
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  Speaker 2: instituted indefinite bands. And Monterey Park is at the top
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  Speaker 2: of the heap, and supporters are hoping the vote will
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  Speaker 2: set a precedent for the rest of the entire region.
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  Speaker 2: You've got residents fighting proposals in Vernon City of Inner Industry,
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  Speaker 2: and this has to do with a permanent ban. Only
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  Speaker 2: the voters can overturn that ban. And this is about
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  Speaker 2: a two hundred and forty seven thousand square foot center
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  Speaker 2: that was proposed in twenty twenty four for a residential
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  Speaker 2: area in Monterey Park. The facility would have set less
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  Speaker 2: than five hundred feet from the nearest home and use
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  Speaker 2: three times electricity of the sixty sixty thousand person Prominently
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  Speaker 2: Asian city, and they're talking about so much electricity is
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  Speaker 2: being produced and needed that you try to even bite
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  Speaker 2: into some orange chicken, you'll be electrocuted. It's a very big,
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  Speaker 2: big deal. Now the developer is touting the potential for
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  Speaker 2: jobs and tax rent of revenue. The residents have concerns
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  Speaker 2: about noise and air pollution, rising electricity rates, and a
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  Speaker 2: potent the lower property values because you bet is anybody
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  Speaker 2: going to buy a home within anywhere near a data center.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things about these data centers is they
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  Speaker 2: need and suck up unbelievable amounts of power and water,
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  Speaker 2: and they are loud because you have thousands of computers
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  Speaker 2: individually that are running these things and they need them
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  Speaker 2: for AI. That's the downside of AI. Lots of power,
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  Speaker 2: lots of these centers. So the company that was pulling
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  Speaker 2: it up pulled its plans in late March, following public outcry,
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  Speaker 2: and in a letter to city council, companies said it
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  Speaker 2: would pursue a different use for the land and not
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  Speaker 2: engage in the ballot measure fight because it just got
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  Speaker 2: politically impossible for it to move forward. And so what
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  Speaker 2: the city is doing is not just saying, Okay, thank you,
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  Speaker 2: we've won. The council banned data centers indefinitely, and now
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  Speaker 2: they're talking about data centers never being put up. Unbanning
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  Speaker 2: it is going to be a lot harder because you
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  Speaker 2: need the entire city to vote on it. There's the difference.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just you can't build it now. It's not
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  Speaker 2: just you have to make it very difficult for you
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  Speaker 2: to build it. Where the hoops are you to be
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  Speaker 2: difficult to run through or to hop through. It is
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  Speaker 2: a ban period right now. California is third in the
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  Speaker 2: country for existing data centers, about three hundred of them,
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  Speaker 2: and it hasn't been a hotspot for the data center
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  Speaker 2: boom because why well, high electricity rates here the highest
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  Speaker 2: in the country, expensive land, the most expensive in the country,
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  Speaker 2: regulatory hurdles most extensive for the most part in the country.
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  Speaker 2: So you have places like Virginia, Texas, Georgia, Illinois, Arizona
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  Speaker 2: that are saying yep, will take them. And the data
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  Speaker 2: centers in California are pretty small. For example, the average
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  Speaker 2: operating data center takes about demands about forty five megawatts.
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  Speaker 2: The average planned one today is about ten times that much.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy. The one that was proposed for
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  Speaker 2: Monterey Park would have required fifty megawatts at its peak,
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  Speaker 2: and that is enough for I guess what a city
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  Speaker 2: of sixty thousand people. I mean, that's a lot of electricity.
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  Speaker 2: And then the issue becomes where they're going to put
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  Speaker 2: it up. I have a problem with why would you
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  Speaker 2: put it up near any day of any population. Don't
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  Speaker 2: we have enough land out there? And I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if there's some technical hurdles about putting it in various
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  Speaker 2: places out in the desert for example. Well, one of
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  Speaker 2: them may be the fact that water is very difficult
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  Speaker 2: to get to and they need a lot of cooling.
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  Speaker 2: And the other possibility is that the infrastructure and bringing
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  Speaker 2: power outside of that may be way too expensive. But
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  Speaker 2: the bottom line is we got a lot of NIMBYs,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of nimbi's near where I live. There's a
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  Speaker 2: Nimbi fight going on right now because within a mile
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  Speaker 2: mile and a half there is a dump and the
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  Speaker 2: dump wants to double its ability to bring trash in.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew this about dumps. They
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  Speaker 2: are regulated as to how much garbage you bring into
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  Speaker 2: the dump, and they want to double it. Let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you how crazy the area is around here. The
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  Speaker 2: Nimby fight that it has. Who wants the dump anywhere
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  Speaker 2: near their residence, Nobody who wants the refinery, nobody who
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  Speaker 2: wants the data center, nobody who wants me as a
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  Speaker 2: neighbor nobody, nobody, nobody, and my neighborhood knows that I
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  Speaker 2: live here. There is a sort of a little group
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  Speaker 2: that on the internet. They go back and forth and
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  Speaker 2: talk about all the problems, and I, when we moved in,
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  Speaker 2: became one of the problems. Enough of this nimby business. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, worry about the dump and I'll leave me alone.
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  Speaker 2: Worry about our refinery. Just leave me alone. Okay, I'm done. Neil,
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  Speaker 2: how much would you fight for me not to move
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  Speaker 2: into your neighborhood. Actually, I wouldn't mind it.
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  Speaker 1: I'd go to your fridge and not take food and
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  Speaker 1: I'd feel fine about it. I would I would pirate
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  Speaker 1: your cable, I would siphon off of you. Not a
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  Speaker 1: problem for me, but for others I could see where
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  Speaker 1: it's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have my own freezer that I
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  Speaker 2: share that with you. Oh, I have my own freezer
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  Speaker 2: in the garage for my Costco garbage. Lindsey will have
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  Speaker 2: nothing to do with the food that I buy. And
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  Speaker 2: I have a freezer full is.
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  Speaker 1: It in your garage?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? And the thought she allows you to sleep in
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  Speaker 2: it is a full stand up freezer just for me
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  Speaker 2: and my crap. Okay, we're done. I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: we went off on that tangent. Okay, let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you what's happening. Sometimes Donald Trump outdoes himself and as
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  Speaker 2: you know, he set up a one point eight billion
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  Speaker 2: dollar fund that would pay people that suffered under the
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  Speaker 2: weaponization of the Biden administration. And the backlash has been
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  Speaker 2: insane because the possibility and a lot of people thinking
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  Speaker 2: the probability of the January January sixth defenders, defendants who
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  Speaker 2: overran the capital would be able to apply for and
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  Speaker 2: get funds. Remember the pardon happened on the first day
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  Speaker 2: or of all of those who ever ran the capital,
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  Speaker 2: those who were convicted went to prison, all of them
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  Speaker 2: were pardoned. And now the presidents said they were so
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  Speaker 2: damaged by the Biden administration, the weaponization of the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice. Okay, So, now there was a lawsuit filed
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  Speaker 2: by the President against the IRS because during the Biden administration,
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  Speaker 2: the IRS released well it was in the IRS. A
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  Speaker 2: contractor working for the IRS released Trump's Trump's tax returns.
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  Speaker 2: So he files the lawsuit against the IRS, and now
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  Speaker 2: you've got the IRS as a defendant, and the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice defends the IRS, because that's the way it works.
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  Speaker 2: And as this thing approaches trial, what ends up happening
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  Speaker 2: is both sides agree to settle the case, so the
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  Speaker 2: judge has to dismiss it. So you have the president
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  Speaker 2: suing a department that he controls and a settlement between
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  Speaker 2: two departments that he controls. And the settlement was pretty egregious.
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  Speaker 2: The one point eight billion dollar fund that's for starters.
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  Speaker 2: Also part of the deal was that there would be
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  Speaker 2: no action by the IRS, no audits against not only
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, but his children and any organization that the
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  Speaker 2: Trump family is involved with. And there was the backlash
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  Speaker 2: was really about the fun tax money being used to
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  Speaker 2: pay those people who overran the Capitol, threaten the lives
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  Speaker 2: of the congress people and senator and other members of
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  Speaker 2: the administration or members of Congress, and that just became
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  Speaker 2: a bridge too far. Even Republicans said, this is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot have people, these defendants, these people who threaten
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  Speaker 2: and actually harmed police officers, get money. And he was
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  Speaker 2: the president was saying these were people that were so
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  Speaker 2: seriously damaged by the Biden administration, not the cops who
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  Speaker 2: who have every ability or every reason to sue. No no, No,
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  Speaker 2: it's only the peopleeople who overran and threatened the government,
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  Speaker 2: tried to stop the transfer of power, which we've never
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  Speaker 2: had in the history of the United States ever where
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  Speaker 2: there wasn't just a peaceful of transfer pursuing to an election.
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  Speaker 2: It's just never been done. And that's just too far
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  Speaker 2: the president, way too far. So now what happens, Well,
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  Speaker 2: the judge is opening it up the uh open. That's
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  Speaker 2: very unusual for a judge to open up a case
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  Speaker 2: after a settlement has been reached, in which the judges
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  Speaker 2: always say, okay, you settled the case. And so how
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  Speaker 2: does Trump get to get out of it? Well, instead
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  Speaker 2: of calling the judge a left wing radical who is
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  Speaker 2: anti American and is killing all of our belief systems
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  Speaker 2: and democracy, all the administration is saying, will abide by
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  Speaker 2: the judge's decision. If the judge says we have to
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  Speaker 2: stop it, then we will stop it. See it's not
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  Speaker 2: it's the call of the judiciary, not Trump's call. And
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  Speaker 2: that's how his that's where his off ramp is. Is
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  Speaker 2: he going to appeal it? Like every other anti Trump
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  Speaker 2: decision that has been handed down the court. Everyone he
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  Speaker 2: has appealed, they haven't even decided whether they're going to
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  Speaker 2: appeal this. And guess what, they're not going to appeal it.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the way they get out of it is that
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to We're not going to appeal a
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  Speaker 2: decision by the courts. We abide by the court's decision.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the hypocrisy is stunning here, I mean it
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  Speaker 2: is breathtaking. And so this is going to disappear. Now
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  Speaker 2: the other issue. Does that mean that the other parts
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  Speaker 2: of it are going to disappear, particularly those where the
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  Speaker 2: Trump family businesses and President Trump himself are immune from
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  Speaker 2: any audit from the Irs. Well, that may fly, that
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  Speaker 2: may fly. And there was a Justice Department statement saying
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  Speaker 2: that there may be enough senators to satisfy or to
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  Speaker 2: not satisfy this lawsuit, this procedure, and so we'll see
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  Speaker 2: what's happening. Oh also there is oh that was hilarious
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  Speaker 2: where you have the acting Attorney General, that's Blanche Todd
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  Speaker 2: Blanche going in front of the Senate, a Senate committee
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  Speaker 2: to try to explain what this bill, this one point
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  Speaker 2: eight billion dollar fund was about. They ripped into him,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they really ripped into him. There was screaming
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  Speaker 2: going on as they attacked him, saying Okay, how does
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  Speaker 2: this work? We don't know how are these people going
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  Speaker 2: to get paid? We don't know who makes the decision
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  Speaker 2: as to who gets paid. We don't know, Well, who
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  Speaker 2: decides who's on this panel that's ostensibly going to decide
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  Speaker 2: who decides who is on the panel that's going to
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  Speaker 2: decide who gets money? Who is eligible? Isn't it your administration?
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it your call? Isn't that part of what's happening here? Well? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: why is it only Trump's allies that are going to
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  Speaker 2: be basically eligible for this? Well, anybody can apply. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Trump's enemies who've been weaponized are going to have the
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  Speaker 2: ability to also ask for money. You think that's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen? Okay. One of the more fun lawsuits, and
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  Speaker 2: I look at lawsuits obviously because I'm an attorney sorta,
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  Speaker 2: and occasionally you get in some really interesting ones. There's
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  Speaker 2: one now that is just fantastic. Patagonia is being sued
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  Speaker 2: by Patty Gonia, a drag queen over Well, Patagonia is
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  Speaker 2: suing over trademark infringement. So they're going to court. They're
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  Speaker 2: suing Patty Gonia the drag Queen an environmental activists for
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  Speaker 2: trademark infringement, arguing that Patty Gonia moved away from her
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  Speaker 2: use of a persona to engage in activism and transformed
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  Speaker 2: into a commercial enterprise and therefore is causing irreparable harm
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  Speaker 2: to Patty to Patagonia, the clothing company, and so Migsnia
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  Speaker 2: goes by they because well all those reasons. Was on
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  Speaker 2: social media last week since the lawsuit was filed and
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  Speaker 2: said the company was trying to take away her their
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  Speaker 2: name permanently and erase and active and called on Patagonia
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  Speaker 2: to drop drop the lawsuit. So here's the way it
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  Speaker 2: works is Pattygonia is arguing that she is using parody
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  Speaker 2: to and her name to just make fun of the
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  Speaker 2: clothing company because what they're doing now, for some crazy
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  Speaker 2: reason is anti LBGDQ LGBTQ issues because of the way
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  Speaker 2: society is going. So she is saying, I'm allowed to
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  Speaker 2: do parody, and Patagonia is saying, sure you are, you
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  Speaker 2: just can't sell clothing with your name because that's confusing.
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  Speaker 2: And she said I'm not selling clothing, She's selling clothing.
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  Speaker 2: Go to her website. And the other issue is even
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  Speaker 2: using her name because it's a She said that it's parody,
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  Speaker 2: and Patagonia is saying even using our name now is
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  Speaker 2: not something you should do because of the confusion. There's
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  Speaker 2: no confusion between Patagonia's a clothing company and Patty Gonia
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  Speaker 2: as an activist environmental activists among the LGPTQ community as
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  Speaker 2: well as a minority community to connect with the great outdoors.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to bring up, when it comes to parody,
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  Speaker 2: my favorite parody story, a legal parody story I want
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  Speaker 2: to share with you. And by the way, parody is allowed,
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  Speaker 2: you can say virtually anything as long as it's parody
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  Speaker 2: and people know that it's parody. Nineteen eighty three, Jerry
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  Speaker 2: Fallwell sues Hustler Magazine for defamation. Hustler Magazine had published
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  Speaker 2: a cartoon of Jerry Fallwell running out of an outhouse
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  Speaker 2: after having sex with his mother in the a house.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit offensive, don't you think. So he's up
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  Speaker 2: on the stand and he has asked, does anybody believe
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  Speaker 2: that that is the truth at all? And he said,
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  Speaker 2: of course not, no one believes it. If no one
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  Speaker 2: believes it, how have you been damaged? If everyone knows
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  Speaker 2: that's parody, and he had a brilliant answer, so it
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  Speaker 2: was parody. And Patty Gonia can certainly use parody and
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  Speaker 2: make fun of and use her name because no one
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  Speaker 2: is confusing her as a drag queen with the company
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  Speaker 2: except Patagonia said, you now are selling clothing and that's
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  Speaker 2: what we do. And there's the line to be drawn
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  Speaker 2: and they're negotiating. Patagonia is saying, just leave it alone,
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  Speaker 2: don't sell clothing and the rest of it. We don't care.
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  Speaker 2: She's holding firm. Okay, Coming up Tech Tuesday with Rich Demurrow.
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