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3 Guys Before The Game - Kansas Game Recap (Episode 660) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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Speaker 1: And welcome on board everyone. It's time for three guys
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Speaker 1: before the game, episode number six hundred and sixty, and
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Speaker 1: this is our Kansas game recap, West Virginia falling to
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Speaker 1: the Jayhawks by a final score of forty one to
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Speaker 1: ten in Lawrence, Kansas. As they say, not the result
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Speaker 1: that you were looking for. The Dean's in, he's got
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Speaker 1: jump in. At Sunday morning, the Mountaineers lost convincingly to
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Speaker 1: the Kansas Jayhawks by a score of forty one to
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Speaker 1: two ten. In our preview show back on Thursday, we
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Speaker 1: talked about situations and how oftentimes the gambling community looks
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Speaker 1: at situational setups and they said, this is not a
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Speaker 1: good situation for West Virginia. That's why it was a
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Speaker 1: two touchdown line of favoring Kansas, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: us were going like two touchdown two too. Well, guess what,
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Speaker 1: boys in Vegas, as most of the time are correct.
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Speaker 1: Are correct, and you know what, that was a bad situation.
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Speaker 1: Kansas was incredibly well rested and they had the fuel
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Speaker 1: from their loss to their arch rival at Missouri, and
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Speaker 1: they went out there. They didn't necessarily The first quarter
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Speaker 1: was kind of like it was a yucko. It was
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Speaker 1: yucka they but they then they got on. They made
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Speaker 1: some big plays, obviously, and and off they went on
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Speaker 1: the other side. For West Virginia, you're coming off the
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Speaker 1: fumes of being told how good you are against Pitt.
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Speaker 1: How much that impacts you, I don't know week number two,
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Speaker 1: But then you go into that game with the guy
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Speaker 1: that we were talking about all weeks and Hey found
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Speaker 1: the running back. You get Ty Edwards lathered up now,
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Speaker 1: and that's going to make a huge difference on this offense.
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Speaker 1: It'll get things going. And Ty Edwards a no go
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Speaker 1: because of a hip and that didn't help. And then
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Speaker 1: you throw in land in Livingstone, your center out, Fred
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Speaker 1: Perry out not related to injury, and you got yourself.
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Speaker 1: I got a problem, Houston, we got a problem.
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Speaker 2: So so you want me to go, obviously, obviously, said Tony.
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Speaker 2: You said it. We talk. It's one thing to talk
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Speaker 2: Brad about situationally not a good situation for West Virginia.
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Speaker 2: It's another thing to see it, to witness it. And
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Speaker 2: so you talk sort of academically like this is a
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Speaker 2: bad situational play for West Virginia. Then you witness it.
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Speaker 2: I got to tell you by antony. As always, I
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Speaker 2: turned down the sound on TV and I listened to you.
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Speaker 2: And by the midpoint of the third quarter, really after
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Speaker 2: that kickoff return, I thought, how much longer do I
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Speaker 2: have to listen to this or watch this? I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's just it's like being all due respect to dentist,
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Speaker 2: it's like being in the dentist chair, where the first
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Speaker 2: hour like okay, I'm all right, but then you're like,
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Speaker 2: when does this end? When can I get out of this?
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Speaker 2: When is this over? And when a third quarter ended,
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Speaker 2: I thought, Brad, there's another quarter of this. It was real.
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Speaker 2: It was really painful. And Brad, you and I were
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Speaker 2: talking in our meeting beforehand, and you brought us at
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Speaker 2: a meeting. Yeah it was at eight thirty. Yeah extensive,
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Speaker 2: yeah expensive, And Brad, you brought up Okham's razor this
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Speaker 2: post explanations. Most logically I think that not to steal
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Speaker 2: your thunder, but It was a great point that you
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Speaker 2: just don't have enough, guys. You just aren't good enough
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Speaker 2: to compete. I don't think you expect to peopling out
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Speaker 2: like that, but you just aren't aren't good enough at
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Speaker 2: multiple levels. So as you said, and I'll maybe defer
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Speaker 2: to you on this point, is you can coach all
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Speaker 2: you want, you can draw up all the play player
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Speaker 2: play plays you want, but if you don't have the players,
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Speaker 2: can't make plays.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just unfortunate, Tenny. You said it there. The
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Speaker 3: no tie Edwards obviously changed that game right from the beginning.
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Speaker 3: And we'll go through this in some of my number perspective,
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Speaker 3: but if this, if we know this, if Rich's offense
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Speaker 3: can't run effectively, it's going to be a long night.
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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of factors that come after that.
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Speaker 3: But Edwards being out certainly hurt. Then you lose Livingstone
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Speaker 3: and this offensive line just continues to struggle, guys. So
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Speaker 3: it's yeah, it was. It was obvious pretty early on
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Speaker 3: that this offense was going to struggle last night, and
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Speaker 3: I have some numbers to go along with that, and
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Speaker 3: it just did. It just could never get anything going.
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Speaker 3: It could never get anything going. And and you know, defensively,
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Speaker 3: they hung in there for a while.
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Speaker 2: But you know, Tony, that that eye candy as you
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Speaker 2: called it in the pregame interview that they do that
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Speaker 2: does confuse defense. I mean that that has an effect.
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Speaker 2: And a couple of times when those Kansas receivers were
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Speaker 2: wide open, it's just like West Virginia where we're like,
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Speaker 2: what do you do now? Because they do a really
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Speaker 2: good job of confusing defenses and you come up typically
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Speaker 2: on a game, if you lose, you come away go okay,
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Speaker 2: there's a couple of things you can build on. I
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Speaker 2: don't think you came away from any from that game
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Speaker 2: with any like, well, here's a bright spot, here, here's
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Speaker 2: a bright spider. I didn't see any bright spots in
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Speaker 2: this game, in any of the three phases of that game,
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Speaker 2: except maybe Oliver Straw hopefully his leg is still attached.
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Speaker 2: You had to punch so many times. But what I
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Speaker 2: did do was when that fourth quarter started, I starting
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Speaker 2: I started researching motivational quotes, maybe something you could build on.
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Speaker 2: And one of the greatest coaches of any sport was
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Speaker 2: John Wooden. And here's what. Of course, he didn't lose
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Speaker 2: very much, but Here's what John wood and said, Losing
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Speaker 2: is only temporary and not all encompassing. You must simply
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Speaker 2: study it, learn from it, and try not to lose
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Speaker 2: the same way again. Then you must have the self
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Speaker 2: control to forget about it, Brad, self control to forget
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Speaker 2: about it. So can you put a really dismal performance
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Speaker 2: behind you and try to get ready for another tough
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Speaker 2: opponent in a week?
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Speaker 3: Well, your hope is you just did this once, right.
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Speaker 3: You had a dismal offensive performance against Ohio. You you
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Speaker 3: turned right around and came back with your biggest win
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Speaker 3: against Pitch. So you're gonna have to do that again.
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Speaker 3: I think the challenge becomes. As we've said about this league,
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Speaker 3: you just continue to roll good team in after good team.
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Speaker 3: And that's not a disrespect to bit. But Utah is
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Speaker 3: a really good team. A lot of people had them
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Speaker 3: pick to win the league prior to their game against
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech yesterday. Who, by the way, Texas Tech's forty
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Speaker 3: million dollars payroll, I think they did a nice job
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Speaker 3: with that early on. A lot of football left. Texas
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Speaker 3: Tech looks like the real deal to walk into that
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Speaker 3: building in Utah and walk out with a win. But
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Speaker 3: Utah comes in here and we'll talk more about them
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Speaker 3: this week. So you're hoping they come out maybe a
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Speaker 3: little flat and deflated from having their first loss. Maybe
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Speaker 3: you can catch them on a long road trip and
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Speaker 3: what may be a situational good spot for West Virginia.
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Speaker 3: But that's the problem with that hop as these teams
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Speaker 3: just continue to roll in and they're very good teams.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just and maybe the pit game was indicative,
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Speaker 2: Tony of what you can do, or maybe it was
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Speaker 2: a one off and against a pretty good Kansas team,
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Speaker 2: you realize Tony that offensively, you just are extremely limited offensively.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, So that is going to be the
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Speaker 1: biggest challenge for Rich Rodriguez and his coaching staff. They
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Speaker 1: go back and they go, okay, guys, I mean they're
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Speaker 1: going to do just exactly what we do. They're going
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Speaker 1: to go like, Okay, what can we do?
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Speaker 3: Can we do?
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Speaker 1: What can we do here? What are our options? What
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Speaker 1: haven't we tried? Or what can we do? That's going
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Speaker 1: to become the biggest question now because we know what
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Speaker 1: Rich's offense looks like when it goes and right now
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Speaker 1: it's operating just incredibly in molasses it's just stuck.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought Rich said this appropriately last night.
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Speaker 3: The injuries are mounting. They didn't lose last night's game
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Speaker 3: because of injuries, but it is a factor now as
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Speaker 3: we start to preview games moving forward. Is significantly no White,
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Speaker 3: no Bray. What's Livington Livingston's status, what is ty Edwards status?
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Speaker 3: Maybe most importantly on that group. That's a lot of
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Speaker 3: hits to an offense that already wasn't very deep to
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Speaker 3: here be after four games. Be dealing with that on
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Speaker 3: top of just trying to figure out what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: There's some again, some of the stats coming out of
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Speaker 1: this game, and you'll go much more deep than I do.
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Speaker 1: These are just the front of these stats. But some
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Speaker 1: of those stats make you scratch your head. In a
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Speaker 1: forty one to ten game, because like if I would
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Speaker 1: have told you it was forty one to ten and
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Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels completed fifty percent of his passes, you'd go like, huh, well,
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Speaker 1: but the problem was one of every four that he
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Speaker 1: completed was a touchdown.
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Speaker 2: Made he made plays. Yeah, I mean he was clearly
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Speaker 2: he was bred and now were texting he was off
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Speaker 2: in the first half, missing guys but he made plays
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Speaker 2: with his feet and with his arm later when he
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Speaker 2: had two and there's a difference. It made plays.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, five carries sixty nine yards long run of twenty eight.
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Speaker 1: He controlled the game. He controlled the game. So that's
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Speaker 1: just one of a bunch of those. You know, West
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Speaker 1: Virginia ran for one point eighty two. West Virginia's average
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Speaker 1: per rush was four to four. I know that fourth
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Speaker 1: quarter was a little bit deceiving. That's kind of with not.
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Speaker 2: A little bit, a lot, a little bit, a lot
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Speaker 2: of bit, a lot of bit. It was a lot
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Speaker 2: of bit deceiving. So that's kind of a fake stat.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'll get into there.
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Speaker 1: Here's another super weird stat and then just leave it
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Speaker 1: to you. Kansas had eight receivers catch passes eight different receivers.
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Speaker 1: Only one caught more than one. Emmanuel Henderson caught six.
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Speaker 1: Seven other dudes caught one.
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Speaker 2: Henderson Henderson was a dude.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was five star coming out of high school.
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Speaker 1: So it was a high five star running back coming
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Speaker 1: out of high school. Went to Alabama and these guys
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Speaker 1: made some big pickups. You know what these guys have
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Speaker 1: done pick up wise on the portal. They got players
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Speaker 1: from other.
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Speaker 2: Power for schools. Mm hmm.
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Speaker 1: And I'm calling guys out like their tight end Iowa
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Speaker 1: State the safety, Oklahoma State running back, Iowa running back
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Speaker 1: Iowa Henderson Alabama, Like they went and got power for
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Speaker 1: portal guys. So I think obviously there is five years
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Speaker 1: in for for Lance Leiphol. There's fifth year in this program.
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Speaker 1: He's built the thing up and that's what he's he's
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Speaker 1: getting some fruit right now of the build that they're doing.
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Speaker 2: That's he's he's a good coach and that's a good staff.
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Speaker 2: Superbos they were ready, they were ready to play Superbos.
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Speaker 2: They're adding to that's they're they're expanding that stadium you
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Speaker 2: talked about that, I mean, how much more they're doing
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Speaker 2: that stadium. So they're on they're on their arc is
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Speaker 2: going in the right direction.
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Speaker 3: That's what this league is though, guys. That's what makes
12:04
Speaker 3: it so tough that I mean, there's good coaches up
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Speaker 3: and down this league. And we said many times there's
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Speaker 3: just aren't any games where you walk in and go, okay,
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Speaker 3: automatic winning, right right, There's not a ton just all
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Speaker 3: things being equal, that you go automatic loss either. It's
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Speaker 3: what's it's part of why this conference gets criticized nationally,
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Speaker 3: but is really fun to watch for those of us
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Speaker 3: that do it on a day to day basis because
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Speaker 3: it is all packed in there. For the most part,
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Speaker 3: there isn't the national top level team and that's why
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Speaker 3: the national guys get on it. I am interested to
12:34
Speaker 3: see what Texas Tech can do in that regard.
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Speaker 2: As far as Megan and un.
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Speaker 3: Good guys, that's a different Texas Tech team. That was
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Speaker 3: a team that defensively yesterday. I know we're not here
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Speaker 3: to do a Texas Tech podcast, but West Ring's going
12:47
Speaker 3: to face them later. That defense was really good. They
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Speaker 3: got after it. You talk about changing the face and
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Speaker 3: the identity of what that program has been for twenty
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Speaker 3: five years. That defense is really good. Their starting quarterback
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Speaker 3: got hurt. They brought in a young dude behind him
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Speaker 3: that might have been better than Baron Morton Mere quarterback
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Speaker 3: made some plays yesterday. They so they you know what
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Speaker 3: they do that West Virginia's struggling with right now. They
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Speaker 3: can beach him multiple different ways. You want to have
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Speaker 3: a slug fest defensively, fine, we'll play like that. Want
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Speaker 3: us to throw the ball deep on you, Okay, we
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Speaker 3: can do that. You want us to throw underneath and Nikolandimia, Fine,
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Speaker 3: we can do that. Do our receivers need to make
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Speaker 3: great catches, Fine, we'll just throw it up and let
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Speaker 3: them go make place. That was a one game sample yesterday,
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Speaker 3: so most I've watched them. They were really impressive.
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Speaker 1: Where'd they have you the I know you?
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Speaker 2: It took you a moment to identify when Kansas switch quarterbacks?
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Speaker 2: Where was your booth in downtown Manhattan? Is that where
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Speaker 2: you were? Don't start? It was horrific. Once you were,
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Speaker 2: you in the stadium. Did you listen to the game?
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Speaker 2: Listen the whole game? Could you tell it was a
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Speaker 2: bad spot place? No? Okay? Good? So not until then?
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Speaker 2: Not until then? And you bit your tongue to talk about.
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Speaker 1: What they build this They build this new side of
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Speaker 1: this press box, all right, and they put the radio
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Speaker 1: in the corner in the end zone.
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Speaker 2: Not good.
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Speaker 1: Can't not see from the fifty yard line on the
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Speaker 1: right side of escause you can't see from the fifty
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Speaker 1: over as far as depth perception with the Yeah, you know, Brett,
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Speaker 1: that's okay, I mean, okay, that's what you gotta do,
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Speaker 1: because I'm sure you have suites. I'm sure you have
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Speaker 1: sweets all along that same space.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Nah, they don't have sweets there. You know what
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Speaker 2: they got there.
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Speaker 1: I looked at some of those I looked at some
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Speaker 1: of those doors in there. Got the DJ for the stadium,
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Speaker 1: he got he got a booth. Stadium DJ got a booth.
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Speaker 1: Better game operations, Lord knows, you couldn't do game operations
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Speaker 1: from the end zone. And kidding me, So I figured
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Speaker 1: it out. I just put my binoculars on the big,
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Speaker 1: huge scoreboard. Really called it off the scoreboard.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And sometimes people like would you think where was the
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Speaker 1: think that you think the rate the home radio home
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Speaker 1: rate worse?
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Speaker 2: What to the left of us? Oh jeez? Anyway, that No,
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Speaker 2: you couldn't know. I listen, you could not tell until
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Speaker 2: you were until later in the game when I think
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Speaker 2: you had a level of frustration. Anyway, And then well,
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Speaker 2: I'll say this, there was a lot more.
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Speaker 1: There was the cheat code on you know what the
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Speaker 1: cheat code on that is what inside the twenty? Then
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Speaker 1: you wait, then you wait. They put it up there
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Speaker 1: inside the twenty over the fifteen. That's what you got
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Speaker 1: to do.
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Speaker 2: Well, you were fine, you did well, Yeah, that's.
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Speaker 1: A They need to move the people. You can move
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Speaker 1: the people, you know, teams can get better. You can
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Speaker 1: move the booths and let the radio people. You know,
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Speaker 1: they kiss TV's ass all the time. They put TV.
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Speaker 3: TV's got nine monitors.
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Speaker 1: They can see everything that they need to see.
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Speaker 2: Radio.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they give you a dog and say, here go, Joe,
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Speaker 1: try to find your way out there?
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? See? You got me all riled
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Speaker 2: up and started.
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Speaker 1: I'm pissed off about these stadiums putting announcers in the
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Speaker 1: end zone like you guys don't.
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Speaker 2: Need to see do you know? Put the DJ in
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Speaker 2: the corner? I love you need you needed that. They
17:36
Speaker 2: come in there like, hey, what do you think you know?
17:39
Speaker 2: They come in there? Hey what do you think of
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Speaker 2: a new state. At least parking wasn't a problem, No,
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Speaker 2: not at all.
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Speaker 3: You got them all fired up before textual healing.
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Speaker 2: You should have just waited yeah, I should. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: bad on your part. That's something I would do to you.
18:30
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say it just took the words.
18:35
Speaker 2: I don't know.
18:36
Speaker 1: Consider three three hours of sleep and you just kind
18:38
Speaker 1: of like that old cartoon where the foghorn Leghorn used
18:41
Speaker 1: to get that dog and know exactly how much leash
18:43
Speaker 1: was there so he could paddle it and none run
18:44
Speaker 1: behind the line.
18:45
Speaker 2: That's what you did. Yeah, probably did. My apologies. I
18:49
Speaker 2: want to hear what spreads hats because I am I mean, well,
18:53
Speaker 2: I want to listen.
18:54
Speaker 3: I want to down to get your expectations to high.
18:56
Speaker 2: Here.
18:56
Speaker 3: This is one of those that we unfortunately talk about
18:58
Speaker 3: occasionally were I mean, give some numbers. You don't need
19:01
Speaker 3: these numbers to tell you what you just saw, right,
19:03
Speaker 3: So we'll go through it here.
19:04
Speaker 2: But in some of those are deceptive.
19:05
Speaker 3: There's no magic in these that you go, oh ah,
19:08
Speaker 3: So it was just it was a rough night and
19:10
Speaker 3: the numbers will reflect that. Let's let's start where we
19:12
Speaker 3: always start. Let's do a review of what we talked
19:14
Speaker 3: about Thursday, see which of those things happened, which didn't,
19:17
Speaker 3: which mattered, which didn't, And we started with where you
19:19
Speaker 3: guys did with that situational spot. And I said to
19:22
Speaker 3: you guys on Thursday, there's a reason why a bunch
19:24
Speaker 3: of those guys that do that for a living were
19:26
Speaker 3: going to come out and say this is their best
19:28
Speaker 3: bet of the weekend. There were that multiple people put
19:31
Speaker 3: this game on there the Kansas minus twelve, minus twelve
19:33
Speaker 3: and a half, minus eleven and a half, minus thirteen
19:35
Speaker 3: and a half, whatever number you had, they felt was
19:37
Speaker 3: the best bet of the weekend. You saw why, So
19:40
Speaker 3: no need to dwell on that anymore. It was just
19:42
Speaker 3: a hard spot you were going to have to have.
19:44
Speaker 3: That was a hard spot if you went in with
19:46
Speaker 3: a veteran team that was really really good and you didn't,
19:49
Speaker 3: you went in with an inexperienced team that obviously then
19:52
Speaker 3: struggled once it got there. So good situational spot comes
19:55
Speaker 3: to fruition. We talked about West Regions defense needed to
19:58
Speaker 3: be good against Kansas's running game. Up to that game,
20:01
Speaker 3: West Virginia was twelfth nationally and opponent yards per carry
20:05
Speaker 3: at two point three six yards. Unfortunately, Kansas ran it
20:09
Speaker 3: at will five yards per carry for that group. We
20:12
Speaker 3: also mentioned on Thursday, Kansas had just not had many
20:15
Speaker 3: explosive run plays, so not only were they not running
20:18
Speaker 3: it well, they hadn't ripped off only big any many
20:21
Speaker 3: big plays only had four of twenty yards or more.
20:24
Speaker 3: West Virginia had a bunch more than that coming into
20:26
Speaker 3: this game. However, Kansas had half as many twenty yard
20:30
Speaker 3: runs in that game as they'd had all season, with
20:33
Speaker 3: the two twenty eight yarder and that big sixty two
20:36
Speaker 3: yard are their longest of the season. So once you
20:38
Speaker 3: couldn't handle the running game, then that made everything difficult.
20:41
Speaker 3: Beyond that, you couldn't make them one dimensional rolls into
20:44
Speaker 3: our second key from Thursday, You had to handle Jalen Daniels.
20:47
Speaker 3: We thought he was going to be the best quarterback
20:49
Speaker 3: you faced all season, and you guys are right. While
20:51
Speaker 3: he didn't have a heisman worthy game, he also didn't
20:55
Speaker 3: turn it over. So we said going in that was
20:57
Speaker 3: either going to be if he plays well, they probably win.
21:01
Speaker 3: If he struggles, you've got a shot. Three touchdown passes,
21:04
Speaker 3: no turnovers, no interceptions, right, So that was a win
21:07
Speaker 3: for Jalen Daniels in that particular game. We talked about
21:10
Speaker 3: his running ability. You guys said it already took off,
21:13
Speaker 3: had sixty nine yards rushing fourteen yards per carry when
21:17
Speaker 3: he took off and scrambled, so you weren't able to
21:19
Speaker 3: contain him when he did that. We talked about Westernrdiney's
21:22
Speaker 3: run game had to be successful, Tony. You said at
21:24
Speaker 3: the Tye Edwards not being there was a major factor.
21:28
Speaker 3: And the raw numbers there that you quoted turned out
21:31
Speaker 3: to be decent. And I'll get to that in just
21:33
Speaker 3: a minute. With Jalen Henderson, that was why late in
21:35
Speaker 3: that game, when it was already decided, but when the
21:37
Speaker 3: game mattered, West Virginia just couldn't do anything one point
21:41
Speaker 3: eight yards per carry in the first half, right so
21:44
Speaker 3: just full stop right there. If this offense can't run
21:47
Speaker 3: it for more than two yards per carry, it is
21:49
Speaker 3: really going to bog down. That led to no space
21:52
Speaker 3: to operate. And that's really what jumped to me. If
21:55
Speaker 3: you take numbers out of it and just watch that,
21:57
Speaker 3: there just wasn't anywhere to go. It felt like a
22:00
Speaker 3: defense in basketball that either you know, like the old
22:03
Speaker 3: press Virginias where you just felt like, where the hell
22:05
Speaker 3: do I pass the ball here? There there's nobody open,
22:07
Speaker 3: or a team that can't make outside shots, and you
22:09
Speaker 3: clogged the lane. That's what that defense felt like against
22:12
Speaker 3: West Virginia. You couldn't run it inside on them, you
22:14
Speaker 3: couldn't get outside on them, you couldn't throw it on
22:17
Speaker 3: them because their defensive backs weren't worried about your ability
22:20
Speaker 3: to beat them over the top because you weren't getting
22:21
Speaker 3: protection long enough to do that. So everybody was just
22:24
Speaker 3: jammed in there and there was nowhere to go with
22:26
Speaker 3: the ball. Just didn't feel like you had any space.
22:28
Speaker 1: I just did a little simple math here. So West
22:31
Speaker 1: Virginia had one hundred and eighty two yards rushing. Sixty
22:35
Speaker 1: seven of those came from Henderson and Wilkins in those
22:38
Speaker 1: final drive. I said, I should say all they had
22:41
Speaker 1: were sixty seven if you take away Henderson and Wilkins's yard,
22:45
Speaker 1: just sixty seven without those two late quarterback drive.
22:48
Speaker 3: That's why that was deceiving there. When you gave the
22:50
Speaker 3: raw numbers, Okay, then let's go to some other just
22:52
Speaker 3: numbers in this and you hear me use this a lot.
22:55
Speaker 3: The field position battle. If you can be plus ten
22:58
Speaker 3: yards of field position, you win nine plus percent of
23:00
Speaker 3: the time. Kansas was plus fourteen yards in field position.
23:04
Speaker 3: West Virginia against Pitt last week was the operation in that.
23:07
Speaker 3: Here's some concerning things, guys that worry you that they
23:10
Speaker 3: weren't one off. And I don't know what the fix is.
23:13
Speaker 3: I'm not sure Rich knows what the fix is. If
23:15
Speaker 3: there was an easy fix, it would have already been tried.
23:17
Speaker 3: But you registered a thirty eight pass blocking grade in
23:21
Speaker 3: that game on a scale of zero to one hundred.
23:24
Speaker 3: That's the worst since you put up a twenty five
23:26
Speaker 3: and a half grade in twenty twenty versus Oklahoma State.
23:30
Speaker 3: It's the second worst pass blocking grade since Pro Football
23:33
Speaker 3: Focus started keeping the stat which goes back to parts
23:36
Speaker 3: of the twenty twelve season. So again, you didn't need
23:40
Speaker 3: me to tell you that number to know that the
23:42
Speaker 3: pass blocking just really struggled, but it really struggled. Was
23:46
Speaker 3: not good and continues to be an issue for this team.
23:49
Speaker 3: If it can't run it and now can't throw it, it
23:51
Speaker 3: gets tough.
23:52
Speaker 2: And brad so Nico didn't have time and they were
23:57
Speaker 2: trying to do short passes to deal with that. So
24:00
Speaker 2: later when it was evident they couldn't they couldn't block
24:03
Speaker 2: for him in a passing situation, they were flushing him out.
24:06
Speaker 2: But you know when you flush a guut left or right,
24:08
Speaker 2: of course he's left handed, then the field becomes smaller,
24:12
Speaker 2: the opportunities to throw the ball become smaller, and you
24:14
Speaker 2: got to throw on the run, and he was not
24:16
Speaker 2: effective doing that.
24:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was no space for him to take
24:19
Speaker 3: off and was getting tracked down when he would take off.
24:21
Speaker 3: So just didn't work. But that pass blocking grade is
24:24
Speaker 3: something we're going to refer back to all season. Line
24:26
Speaker 3: still struggling to find its way and help protect Go
24:30
Speaker 3: to Jalen Henderson because if there was a bright spot
24:33
Speaker 3: in the game. It was his performance. Now you ask
24:36
Speaker 3: the same questions as you as you normally do, the
24:39
Speaker 3: ability to repeat that performance when he got in and again, guys,
24:43
Speaker 3: it's a totally different situation defensively when Henderson came in
24:47
Speaker 3: versus what you were dealing with earlier, there was more
24:49
Speaker 3: space to operate, and some of that was defensive schemes.
24:52
Speaker 3: Some of that was Henderson's speed and ability. You saw
24:55
Speaker 3: why Rich has talked all off season about wanting to
24:57
Speaker 3: get him some reps at the quarterback when you need
25:00
Speaker 3: to run it out of that spot. Seven carries seventy
25:03
Speaker 3: nine yards. Henderson is now your third leading rusher on
25:08
Speaker 3: the season, guys, and this speaks to just how much
25:10
Speaker 3: trouble you've had here, and with the injuries to White
25:12
Speaker 3: and Ty Edwards, Henderson's now your third leading rusher on
25:15
Speaker 3: the season. He's only carried the ball fourteen times, So
25:19
Speaker 3: Edwards is right up there based off one game. Now
25:21
Speaker 3: Henderson right up there based off one game. Just shows
25:24
Speaker 3: how difficult I've been to get that going duty in
25:26
Speaker 3: these injuries.
25:28
Speaker 1: Well, when you look back, what was the biggest situation
25:32
Speaker 1: challenge for Neil Brown when he first got here? What
25:35
Speaker 1: did they say, this.
25:35
Speaker 3: Was the offensive line.
25:36
Speaker 2: First thing we're going to build.
25:38
Speaker 1: The first thing we're going to build is we're going
25:39
Speaker 1: to build the offensive line, and that is exactly where
25:43
Speaker 1: you're going to start at here. Here's what's scary, jumps
25:46
Speaker 1: jumping ahead. Watching the Utah game yesterday, they repeatedly said
25:50
Speaker 1: that Kyle Whittingham, the coach of Utah, thinks this is
25:53
Speaker 1: his best offensive line that he's ever had, and he
25:57
Speaker 1: has had some absolute bulldozers. And so it goes back
26:01
Speaker 1: to this offensive line. That's where you're gonna start. You're
26:03
Speaker 1: gonna have to start on this offensive line and you
26:06
Speaker 1: just have to build it in order to do anything.
26:07
Speaker 2: That's the game of football.
26:08
Speaker 3: We'll spend plenty of time on that Utah offensive line
26:11
Speaker 3: coming up. Although they got dominated yesterday by Texas Tech upfront.
26:13
Speaker 3: That's what I mean when I say Texas Texas defense
26:15
Speaker 3: so good. They took a couple of pros on that
26:17
Speaker 3: line and just said all as, all right, here's what
26:19
Speaker 3: we're gonna do. We're gonna handle you. But that line
26:21
Speaker 3: is supposed to be very good. Yes, we'll get into that.
26:24
Speaker 3: Continuing on, Henderson now leads the team with five carries.
26:27
Speaker 3: Of more than ten yards five rushes of more than
26:30
Speaker 3: ten yards. Here's an interesting stat Only twenty two percent
26:34
Speaker 3: of Henderson's yards have come after contact. And again if
26:37
Speaker 3: you watch, you can see that some of that situational
26:40
Speaker 3: last night. Again they're backed off a little bit, but
26:43
Speaker 3: he's getting yards before he's hit. He's finding creases and
26:47
Speaker 3: running through here. And here's the one that really jumped
26:49
Speaker 3: to me about Henderson's performance. Again a one game sample,
26:52
Speaker 3: but he averaged thirteen yards per carry last night in
26:55
Speaker 3: the right A gap. So just to the right of
26:57
Speaker 3: the center, West Virginia is a team average is just
27:00
Speaker 3: four point four yards per carry on the season in
27:04
Speaker 3: that gap. And if you take Henderson's yards out, because
27:07
Speaker 3: at four point four includes Anderson last night, if you
27:09
Speaker 3: take his yards away from that, West Virginia average is
27:12
Speaker 3: just averaging just three yards per carry in that right
27:15
Speaker 3: A gap. We know how important the inside run is
27:18
Speaker 3: to Rich's offense. That's one area where they're really struggling.
27:21
Speaker 3: Outside of his success, Henderson has fifty three percent of
27:25
Speaker 3: the total rushing yards in that particular gap, which is
27:29
Speaker 3: pretty wild. So that again speaks to what you've already seen. Guys,
27:33
Speaker 3: you're having trouble getting a push up front, especially on
27:36
Speaker 3: that right side in that hole, and it's leading to
27:39
Speaker 3: part of your chure issues. Backing up from there, one
27:43
Speaker 3: last thing on the offense, this is this is not
27:46
Speaker 3: gonna make you feel any better. But coming into this year,
27:48
Speaker 3: West Virginia had scored more than ten points in every
27:51
Speaker 3: regular season game since going back to twenty twenty one
27:54
Speaker 3: versus Oklahoma State November sixth, they've been held to ten
27:58
Speaker 3: or less points just six times, just six times in
28:01
Speaker 3: the previous eleven seasons. Now it's happened twice in four games.
28:04
Speaker 3: So again, you don't need me to tell you that.
28:07
Speaker 3: You know, the offense has struggled in two of these
28:08
Speaker 3: four games. But that was that was surprising to me
28:11
Speaker 3: that it's been at that level.
28:12
Speaker 2: Not what you would think of MAP.
28:15
Speaker 3: So that's that's basically the gist of it. We could
28:18
Speaker 3: keep going, but and there's no sense in.
28:19
Speaker 2: That did you get did you guys get a sense
28:21
Speaker 2: that when Wilkins came in that Rich is thinking about
28:24
Speaker 2: about the out years, that he's thinking, you know, he's
28:28
Speaker 2: played Fox, He's now he's played Wilkins. And who ever
28:33
Speaker 2: had above three and a half on quarterback plays that
28:35
Speaker 2: you're you just that. But is you think he's thinking
28:40
Speaker 2: like next year in two years?
28:42
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think he's trying to find something that
28:44
Speaker 3: can work right now, Like what can you do to
28:46
Speaker 3: run the ball right now? Right his his offense has
28:49
Speaker 3: to be able to run to have any chance, and
28:51
Speaker 3: you're just looking at absent of those running backs. You're
28:54
Speaker 3: running backs just so ding you're trying to find somebody
28:56
Speaker 3: that can make plays for you.
28:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think right now, I think copy he's
29:00
Speaker 1: just putting those guys out there saying like, please show
29:05
Speaker 1: me that I can give you the keys here and
29:06
Speaker 1: you can run this thing. That's what I want to see.
29:09
Speaker 1: But you know, Wilkins didn't even attempt to pass right
29:12
Speaker 1: and Henderson just put four up and he was two
29:14
Speaker 1: out of four for sixteen yards. So that's the thing.
29:17
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not real difficult to figure it out.
29:19
Speaker 2: Right.
29:20
Speaker 1: Nico's strength is throwing it. His strength is not running it.
29:23
Speaker 1: Henderson and Wilkins's strengths are running it and at this
29:27
Speaker 1: point not throwing it. Scottie Fox, you know, probably the
29:33
Speaker 1: guy that could do both of those for you. But
29:36
Speaker 1: obviously he went through a painful learning process in the
29:39
Speaker 1: pit game, and he was going to have to wait
29:41
Speaker 1: now to get his opportunity back. But he on paper
29:45
Speaker 1: and what he can do his skill set, he could
29:47
Speaker 1: do both of those, but right now obviously not ready
29:49
Speaker 1: to do them.
29:50
Speaker 2: There were a lot of other guys in there offensively
29:52
Speaker 2: as Rich was looking for that spark.
29:54
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, and you just again be if you can't
29:57
Speaker 3: move the ball up front and run it, it just
30:00
Speaker 3: it hinders everything else. One last number, Niko's yards per
30:03
Speaker 3: attempt guys were four point seven. It's under five. That's
30:07
Speaker 3: just there's no again to talk about this offense. It's
30:10
Speaker 3: just clogged. The defense is just pressing up on you
30:13
Speaker 3: and condensing that field. There's just nowhere to go.
30:15
Speaker 1: Here, which to that point leads you to Cam Vaughan
30:21
Speaker 1: and him not getting opportunities. Right we have not seen
30:25
Speaker 1: him in a perfect world right now. He is the
30:29
Speaker 1: go to receiver with his skill set, and they just
30:33
Speaker 1: simply cannot get the ball to him. So he's been neutered.
30:37
Speaker 3: Because you knowode else knows that he's the go to guy.
30:40
Speaker 1: That's why he's well, that's why he's not getting opportunities
30:43
Speaker 1: because they're covering them, right they're putting safeties over the top,
30:46
Speaker 1: they're bracketing them, they're just doing everything they need to
30:48
Speaker 1: do to make sure that he doesn't become a weapon.
30:51
Speaker 3: And he led you in targets yesterday. I mean they
30:53
Speaker 3: tried to force feeded in there, just only end up
30:55
Speaker 3: with two catches for eleven yards, but had a team
30:57
Speaker 3: high five targets. But so they they tried to force
31:01
Speaker 3: even when it just wasn't there, which you've got to
31:02
Speaker 3: do with the player of his caliber. But it's just
31:04
Speaker 3: there's just no space to operate for him.
31:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a hard one.
31:13
Speaker 1: This is a hard one because you guys like there's
31:16
Speaker 1: there is no temple remaining on your schedule. You gotta
31:20
Speaker 1: turn it around quick. They gotta flush it today, take
31:23
Speaker 1: tomorrow off, start on the field Tuesday, and it's gonna
31:27
Speaker 1: get big.
31:28
Speaker 2: And from mount to your fans, you're just gonna have
31:30
Speaker 2: to have some patience. I mean, eighty new players. The
31:35
Speaker 2: deficiencies on this team, particularly offensively, are right as you said,
31:39
Speaker 2: they are obvious. So if you're all in as a fan,
31:43
Speaker 2: if you believe that Rich was the right hire, you're
31:46
Speaker 2: just gonna have to be patient. You're gonna have to
31:47
Speaker 2: just suck it up for a while.
31:50
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that on textual healing, because I think
31:52
Speaker 1: based on the textual healing inquiries today were extremely on
31:59
Speaker 1: a expected.
32:02
Speaker 2: How do you mean? I guess we'll find out, but one.
32:06
Speaker 1: There weren't a lot like I fired that thing up
32:10
Speaker 1: last Well, this morning I got home and I went like, okay,
32:13
Speaker 1: here comes hundreds eh. And I think a lot of
32:18
Speaker 1: people have taken what you just said and went like, Okay,
32:22
Speaker 1: I've seen a month's worth of it now and I
32:25
Speaker 1: know what it is. And I think they're going to Okay, now,
32:30
Speaker 1: we're in this build mode and you just try to
32:32
Speaker 1: get better and better and better, and then that's what
32:35
Speaker 1: this is. And then you just go reload and do
32:38
Speaker 1: it again and do it again. That's where I think
32:40
Speaker 1: people are trying to set themselves.
32:41
Speaker 2: Up for here.
32:42
Speaker 3: And again, this isn't too far off from Rich's first tenure,
32:45
Speaker 3: when the first year it just didn't look offensively like
32:49
Speaker 3: he wanted to look, or frankly what it would then
32:52
Speaker 3: become as you started to get more understanding of the
32:55
Speaker 3: offense in there. And so I think you're right up.
32:57
Speaker 3: I think that's just what it is now. From a
32:59
Speaker 3: fan perspective, and you can scream a holler and yell,
33:01
Speaker 3: but it is what it is, ye, And you're just
33:03
Speaker 3: gonna have to try and watch season and find some
33:06
Speaker 3: moments that you can take and move forward into future years.
33:09
Speaker 3: And then you're gonna have to go to work in
33:10
Speaker 3: the off season.
33:11
Speaker 2: And Tony with those texts, as I said, it was
33:14
Speaker 2: hard to stay with that game last night.
33:17
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm aware you also you will be still under too,
33:20
Speaker 3: like if you want to try and have a little
33:21
Speaker 3: bit of bright spot moving forward. This team shown it's
33:24
Speaker 3: been better at home, right, So now you're gonna have
33:26
Speaker 3: to look at a Utah team coming in. What do
33:27
Speaker 3: they have mindset wise? Can you get back on track
33:30
Speaker 3: here at home and give them a game? That's what
33:32
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Speaker 1: got a live show week. Excuse me, we have a
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Speaker 1: live show week. Oh, Thursday night? Did you not have
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Speaker 1: that on your dossier? Junior?
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Speaker 2: I got to start working on trivia. That's okay. We'll
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Speaker 2: take care of you.
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Speaker 1: We'll tell you who you approved questions. Listen, I know
35:29
Speaker 1: you've been busy. We'll take that off your plate. If
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Speaker 1: you are coming in for the Utah game and you'd
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Speaker 1: like to start your fun for the weekend. On Thursday,
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Speaker 1: we will be once again in action at Buffalo Wild
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Speaker 1: Wings at the Suncrest Town Center. It's presented by Clear
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Speaker 1: Mountain Bank. We're gonna be with you from six until
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Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Get there early. Always a surprise or two, music, trivia,
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Speaker 1: and allegedly special guests. Jen Greeney, head coach of the
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Speaker 1: undefeated Mountaineer volleyball team Great start for them, might have
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Speaker 1: one of her, one or two of her student athletes
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Speaker 1: with us.
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Speaker 3: We're doing like we did last time, we did a
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Speaker 3: shooting contest with Honor Huff. We're doing like a serving
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Speaker 3: contest should do that.
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Speaker 2: Spiking.
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Speaker 1: Spiking would be awesome, Like that would be great, wouldn't it.
36:19
Speaker 2: It would be like we.
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Speaker 1: Do fakes, like they toss it up and let them
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Speaker 1: spike it, like who can catch one of their spikes
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Speaker 1: or something?
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Speaker 3: I don't think.
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Speaker 2: So you knock over like a soft drink into your
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Speaker 2: French front.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly like that. So anyway, we're doing six Thursday
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Speaker 1: six to eight. This is our third one that we've
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Speaker 1: done there. It's a lot of fun. We invite you
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Speaker 1: to come out. We're just going to have a big time.
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Speaker 1: Who knows, we'll figure something else. And then the food
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Speaker 1: courts open Friday Saturday. This is Hall of Fame weekend.
36:41
Speaker 1: By the bye, oh it is induction. This weekend induction
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Speaker 1: would be have Bill ker Lavitch among the inductees. Bill's
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Speaker 1: story among the inductees, got a great pat is going in.
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Speaker 1: Obviously he won't be here, he'll be doing the game
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Speaker 1: day thing, but sure he'll Sunday. Memorable video in by
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Speaker 1: the way you see him dive in.
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Speaker 2: I did hebelievable. He's absolutely unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: So that's Thursday six until eight, presented by Clear Mountain
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Speaker 1: Bank at Buffalo Wild Wings and then food Court Friday Saturday,
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Speaker 1: right next to Daniels there on University Avenue. We're on
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Speaker 1: three to nine on Friday, nine thirty to two on Saturday.
37:20
Speaker 1: Our vendors are back. Grateful bread unbelieva. I'm getting me
37:23
Speaker 1: some of that sour though.
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Speaker 2: Lemonade.
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Speaker 3: Better get a pepperoni role early she sold out last year.
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Speaker 1: Lemonade from that big huge Lemma lemon Duka from the
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Speaker 1: wine bar REVKEV Barbecue Connection, three h four drafts, six
37:34
Speaker 1: packs to go, and music all weekend courtesy of Rocky
37:38
Speaker 1: and the folks at Vision Homes and live music and
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Speaker 1: the talent from wvu's mon Hills Records, wv's Creative Arts
37:45
Speaker 1: College record label.
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Speaker 3: That music's been a nice addition at Buffalo Wild Wings
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Speaker 3: and at the food court. Yeah, thank you, Rocky.
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Speaker 1: You know, speaking of Clear Mountain Bank, obviously they got
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Speaker 1: into us because this is kind of a community thing
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Speaker 1: that we do. We bring all these people together, whether
37:58
Speaker 1: it's food, whether it's the music. I want to bang
38:01
Speaker 1: this out there, and these guys often attack me. They
38:03
Speaker 1: attack me for over promising early and then I always
38:07
Speaker 1: and then I always deliver. But anyway, excuse me put
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Speaker 1: this date on your calendar, seven October, seven October. I
38:15
Speaker 1: mean we're doing an event at the United for the
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Speaker 1: United Way at Touchdown Terrace at the Stadium. It goes
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Speaker 1: starts at five thirty, doors open at five thirty. Event
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Speaker 1: goes from six until eight and we're partnering with Clear
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Speaker 1: Mountain Bank and Golden Blue Enterprises. And there will be
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Speaker 1: coaches and players attending this event. Mark Kellogg, Mountainer women's coach,
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Speaker 1: Mountaineer men's basketball coach Ross Hodge, who happens to be
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Speaker 1: a REVKV fan, Steve Sabins, Mountaineer baseball coach Jen Greene,
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Speaker 1: and the players. Great food, great time, great cause. Less
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Speaker 1: than thirty five of these tickets remain. Less than thirty
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Speaker 1: five tickets remain. There's seventy five dollars. All the money
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Speaker 1: goes to the United Way of mount in Preston County.
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Speaker 1: And they also do have three corporate tables left fifteen
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Speaker 1: for eight people. Perfect for your company to make a
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Speaker 1: donation to the United Way.
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Speaker 2: For interest.
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Speaker 1: For those interested, you can in email info at episode
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Speaker 1: eight hundred dot com.
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Speaker 2: I got to do that.
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Speaker 3: In all that money that goes in the United Way
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Speaker 3: for this events days here in these communities Modern Preston County.
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Speaker 2: What's the email?
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Speaker 1: Info at episode eight zero zero dot com info at
39:22
Speaker 1: episode eight zero zero dot com. For the tables, individual
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Speaker 1: tickets individual individual can be bought. Just go to the
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Speaker 1: United Way social media pages.
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Speaker 2: I gotta do something. You're gonna do something? You buy
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Speaker 2: a corporate table? No I have. I have a couple
39:38
Speaker 2: of friends coming in. Okay, good, so I'm gonna invite
39:41
Speaker 2: them to go.
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Speaker 1: Want you open your wallet and let those moths fly
39:43
Speaker 1: out of there and take out.
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Speaker 2: A few dollars? Well maybe I will. Did I play
39:47
Speaker 2: textual healing already? Yes? Okay?
39:51
Speaker 1: First up, Hey, three guys, whether you're in Flatwoods, Morgantown,
39:57
Speaker 1: or can Kun, there's a go Mart around the corner.
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Speaker 1: Just take a look at that picture. Got a picture
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Speaker 1: there of a Go Mart store and can kon. Yeah,
40:08
Speaker 1: there's a Go Maart store in can Kun and it
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Speaker 1: just says go Mart. And uh, I've seen this picture before.
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Speaker 1: Actually someone has sent it to us before. But it's
40:20
Speaker 1: not it's not our go Mart. But the Cancunians. They
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Speaker 1: the Cancunians thought they could go with a Go Mart.
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Speaker 2: Don't see that picture there. But anyway, take my word
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Speaker 2: for it.
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Speaker 3: There's the go Martin King Kuny Frank sent that Frank More.
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Speaker 1: Frank's busy. He's all over the place, the university avenue
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Speaker 1: that he's in Cancun. Hey, three guys, I was recently
40:47
Speaker 1: in Greece for a work trip. Why weren't you my
40:49
Speaker 1: late night? My last night in their country? The night
40:53
Speaker 1: before the backyard brawl. I did what any mountaineer faithful
40:56
Speaker 1: would do. I put on my West Virginia shirt, hit
40:59
Speaker 1: the streets to find a mom and pop food spot
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Speaker 1: for dinner. I stumbled upon a small little spot off
41:05
Speaker 1: the beaten path in Athens. It was the kind of
41:08
Speaker 1: a spot where three generations were working the tables. I
41:11
Speaker 1: love those places when you see the grandfather, the father,
41:13
Speaker 1: and then the kid working it. As I topped off
41:16
Speaker 1: the great dinner with a coffee in Bucklova, the elderly
41:19
Speaker 1: gentleman next to me started to get up to leave.
41:22
Speaker 1: As he left, he turned to me and with his seasoned,
41:25
Speaker 1: thick Greek accent, he said, mister West of Virginia, how
41:30
Speaker 1: are you doing tonight? That's my Athens accent.
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Speaker 2: It's work on that.
41:33
Speaker 1: But naturally, while eating my buck levaw I replied, great,
41:36
Speaker 1: how about you just nodded with a smile as he
41:39
Speaker 1: walked away. He said, I hope the Greeks are treating
41:42
Speaker 1: you well. To be clear, the only thing on my
41:44
Speaker 1: polo shirt was the flying WV. That's all was on there.
41:47
Speaker 1: There's no doubt that the West Virginia brand is known worldwide.
41:50
Speaker 1: Great show, thanks for all you do. Ps. I also
41:53
Speaker 1: found the Dubai Chocolate ice cream while in Greece. Be warned,
41:56
Speaker 1: it's dangerously good.
41:58
Speaker 3: Hey what Dubai Chocolate and Buclova have a moment.
42:02
Speaker 1: This person sent a very short text, but this is
42:05
Speaker 1: what it said in all capital letters. No offense. But
42:09
Speaker 1: it's going to be a long season. See a double
42:12
Speaker 1: play one. That's what it's going with. It's very cute,
42:15
Speaker 1: very well done. Texter transfer portal continues to be unkind
42:19
Speaker 1: to West Virginia. The O line, wide receiver, linebacker units
42:23
Speaker 1: all less talented than a year ago, and they wouldn't
42:26
Speaker 1: be if the players hadn't left through the portal. It's
42:29
Speaker 1: a continuation of what I've maintained was the biggest obstacle.
42:32
Speaker 1: Neil brown Face simply retained the talent you already have
42:34
Speaker 1: love the show. JD Southern coal Fields, ps Tony. I
42:40
Speaker 1: heard during your broadcast you mentioned that the location wasn't
42:43
Speaker 1: the best. Can we get an explanation Sunday? Things already
42:45
Speaker 1: been done? Texter, Hello, three guys, Paul and Tampa in
42:52
Speaker 1: game text. Got a lot of these in game texts
42:55
Speaker 1: where people just do It's kind of comical. There's people
42:58
Speaker 1: that just send stream of conchess text and they just
43:01
Speaker 1: keep hitting it like things that Yeah, I kind of understand. Fumble, hurt,
43:08
Speaker 1: add interception, can't let a kickoff return go, Yeah, I
43:11
Speaker 1: got it understood.
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Speaker 3: That is the textual healing line.
43:14
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Paul and Tampa end game.
43:17
Speaker 1: As difficult as is to watch the game to the end,
43:20
Speaker 1: I was inspired by read Karaco long TD run in
43:23
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, dove for the tackle at the start
43:26
Speaker 1: of it, then got up, immediately chased the runner down,
43:28
Speaker 1: dove at him again at the five, barely missed the
43:30
Speaker 1: jayhawk locked him as he does. Firstly, read his some wheels. Secondly,
43:34
Speaker 1: he never gives up. Reminded me of the terminator after
43:37
Speaker 1: getting hit by a twelve gage and then you get
43:39
Speaker 1: right up and your head back for more. Has a
43:41
Speaker 1: nickname been born? Read terminator Karrico. No, I don't think
43:48
Speaker 1: it has bred. Were there and read Karaco is a dude?
43:53
Speaker 1: Were there mistackle stats?
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Speaker 2: Yes? Did you have that? You have access to that?
43:58
Speaker 2: I do?
43:59
Speaker 3: I will There were a bunch? Okay, yeah, what West
44:02
Speaker 3: Train is lowest tackling grade of the season.
44:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, Texter beating Pitt made my year. But in all honesty,
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Speaker 1: how many years until we could be a real contender
44:14
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve? Jake from work, all right, it's
44:16
Speaker 1: a good, good question. How many years before West Virginia
44:20
Speaker 1: can be a real contender in the Big twelve?
44:23
Speaker 2: Uh? He wants to answer? Yeah, three M. I don't
44:29
Speaker 2: know what'll tell mean?
44:30
Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's just so hard to answer. Now
44:34
Speaker 3: get back to this. You see what you do in
44:35
Speaker 3: the portal next year? How many guys you retain? What
44:38
Speaker 3: does the portal look like? What do other teams do?
44:40
Speaker 3: What's the spending look like? Texas Tech going to spend
44:42
Speaker 3: forty million again? They find a way around the twenty
44:44
Speaker 3: million dollars Solard cap for this next year? How they
44:47
Speaker 3: get around the well they got well, they got in
44:51
Speaker 3: before the rev share started a lot of those contracts
44:54
Speaker 3: are front loaded. A lot of schools, a lot of Edwin,
44:56
Speaker 3: just Texas Tech. A lot of schools were front loading
44:58
Speaker 3: their contracts before the cap came in and getting people
45:01
Speaker 3: on board early and then settling into.
45:03
Speaker 1: The gap front loaded like it was wild West until
45:06
Speaker 1: July one, you could do whatever you wanted because it
45:08
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna count against the cap.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
45:12
Speaker 1: Tell you what, if Texas Tech has the season that
45:14
Speaker 1: they're lining up to have, they'll they'll replenish it again,
45:18
Speaker 1: because once you taste the nectar of that, you're gonna
45:23
Speaker 1: keep going back.
45:24
Speaker 3: Fifteen misstackles charted again. This will change because we're off
45:29
Speaker 3: early on this, but some of this will change, but
45:31
Speaker 3: at least fifteen on this particular PFF.
45:33
Speaker 1: Source Texter Two questions. Do we know how the quarterback
45:38
Speaker 1: reps are split among the five quarterbacks? Seems like in
45:42
Speaker 1: the past it's pastime to narrow the field and pick
45:45
Speaker 1: a fast horse. Second, do the analytics back up what
45:50
Speaker 1: my eyes are seeing at how bad the right side
45:53
Speaker 1: of the line is. The whole line is looking bad,
45:55
Speaker 1: but the major blow up seemed to be coming from
45:56
Speaker 1: the gut.
45:57
Speaker 2: You already mentioned the.
45:57
Speaker 3: A game That question was in there, but about that.
46:02
Speaker 2: Texter.
46:03
Speaker 1: My wife and I just got back from the Charles
46:05
Speaker 1: Wesley Godwin concert in Fort Worth. I met a few
46:08
Speaker 1: Mountaineer fans and talked about the Kansas game. Charles put
46:11
Speaker 1: on an amazing show, as always, wrapping the old Golden
46:13
Speaker 1: Blue on his shirt. He mentioned to the crowd how
46:16
Speaker 1: their horn frogs did well today and how unfortunately our
46:20
Speaker 1: mountaineers did.
46:20
Speaker 2: Not do so hot.
46:21
Speaker 1: He ended it with it's okay though we beat Pitt
46:24
Speaker 1: last weekend. I followed that up with a very loud
46:27
Speaker 1: eat you know what pit. A few heads turned. Charles
46:31
Speaker 1: looked at me and gave up. Let's go so Russell
46:35
Speaker 1: in Wichita Falls, Texas there is. Charles got his Mountaineer
46:40
Speaker 1: shirt on performing.
46:42
Speaker 2: It was a nice win by TCU.
46:45
Speaker 1: Yeah they been they wanted that one. Yeah, they don't
46:47
Speaker 1: like SMU, No they do not.
46:49
Speaker 3: They got a chance. They might have a favorable schedule
46:51
Speaker 3: moving forward to they don't play Texas Tech. Don't think
46:54
Speaker 3: they play Utah.
46:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get that skillet they brought that fell it
47:00
Speaker 1: back then. Oh that's right, you know they play for
47:02
Speaker 1: the skillet. It's kind of weird, do you see? Uh No,
47:06
Speaker 1: you couldn't you were. I don't know where you were
47:08
Speaker 1: at the time, but Baylor Arizona State had a great finish.
47:13
Speaker 2: We're watching it at the end, Yeah, we were watching
47:16
Speaker 2: it at the end.
47:16
Speaker 3: GCU has at Arizona State, Colorado at Kansas State, Baylor
47:20
Speaker 3: at West Virginia, Iowa State at BYU at Houston Cincinnata
47:27
Speaker 3: last one.
47:28
Speaker 1: After a game like that, there's only one question worth asking,
47:31
Speaker 1: which is better Halloween pumpkin reces or Christmas tree receas.
47:36
Speaker 1: In all seriousness, people need to be patient.
47:39
Speaker 2: We gave Neil time. We can afford to give Rich time.
47:44
Speaker 2: That was ugly.
47:45
Speaker 1: Which may have five quarterbacks he thinks he can win with,
47:48
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have five offensive linemen that he can
47:50
Speaker 1: Jeff and Scott depot. A lot of work to be done,
47:53
Speaker 1: A lot of work to be done. Hey, don't leave now.
47:58
Speaker 1: Why why it's a big week, bounce back week?
48:05
Speaker 2: What? What's wrong? What do you? What? What big week?
48:09
Speaker 2: Down on you for not bringing this up? What's this week?
48:12
Speaker 2: I don't know hoopsters?
48:14
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well yeah, yeah, it's officially started.
48:19
Speaker 2: Have you moved on to basketball?
48:20
Speaker 3: Caught off by the question? Been to one hundred practices
48:22
Speaker 3: so far?
48:23
Speaker 1: Yes, significantly because the rules now allow them to have
48:27
Speaker 1: the full time to practice.
48:31
Speaker 2: Ever Ruler two.
48:33
Speaker 3: So what does that mean, Well, you get longer per
48:36
Speaker 3: day to work with them.
48:37
Speaker 2: You can have your real practices.
48:39
Speaker 1: So back in the day, October fifteenth was the day
48:43
Speaker 1: that college basketball practices started. Now you're you, as Brad said,
48:48
Speaker 1: you're always practicing at some capacity, but a limited window
48:53
Speaker 1: of time. Now, starting this week, you go into your
48:57
Speaker 1: season mode and you'll count your practices to the start
49:01
Speaker 1: of your first exhibition.
49:03
Speaker 3: And oh, which is just a little over a month away.
49:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, exhibition game. They've got that secret exhibition game.
49:09
Speaker 3: Well that, but then you got the real exhibition coming
49:11
Speaker 3: against Wheeling, plan Wheeling this year.
49:13
Speaker 2: Hot. Oh really, can you guys get me into a
49:16
Speaker 2: practice now?
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Speaker 1: forty plus years and that is the absolute moniker of success.
50:02
Speaker 2: I was out on the Mont River trail yesterday. I
50:04
Speaker 2: think I saw a couple pontoons. Yeah, probably there's no
50:07
Speaker 2: call going through the going through the Opakisko lock, and damn.
50:09
Speaker 1: I thought, ah, very nice, very nice. So as far
50:11
Speaker 1: as basketball practice.
50:13
Speaker 2: Goes, no, I think I've already been shot down on that.
50:15
Speaker 2: We could probably what we could probably get them in. Brad,
50:18
Speaker 2: you think I don't know about that? Huh?
50:20
Speaker 3: I don't know.
50:21
Speaker 2: Would you go how would you be if?
50:23
Speaker 1: Because I've never had any involvement with you, I've been
50:25
Speaker 1: to football practices with you, Like, how would.
50:28
Speaker 2: You behave at a basketball practice? Are you gonna ask?
50:31
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask a bunch of questions to people, are
50:33
Speaker 1: you gonna go up there and like, hey, why are
50:35
Speaker 1: you doing this? Like are you gonna be okay? Will
50:37
Speaker 1: you just sit and watch? Or are you gonna are
50:39
Speaker 1: we gonna have to What.
50:41
Speaker 2: I would do. What I would do, assuming I sat
50:44
Speaker 2: with you all, is I would be listening. I would
50:47
Speaker 2: be watching intently and listening for insights from you all
50:50
Speaker 2: and Brad. But you would you point things out or
50:52
Speaker 2: Tony would point things out, and I would try to
50:54
Speaker 2: absorb the information. Is what I would do and sit
50:56
Speaker 2: there otherwise quietly and listen when you all made.
50:59
Speaker 1: Points, okay, I mean you might be working your way
51:02
Speaker 1: into a trip, because if once you go down a
51:06
Speaker 1: rabbit hole like this officiating thing last week, I mean,
51:09
Speaker 1: that became a week's worth of work for you.
51:11
Speaker 2: It was you were we we didn't that was. Can
51:14
Speaker 2: I say something about that?
51:16
Speaker 3: Well?
51:16
Speaker 2: Sure, that was a that was that was a legitimate
51:20
Speaker 2: That was a legitimate pursuit of information that was changing
51:25
Speaker 2: and hard to come by, bread and relevant and relevant.
51:29
Speaker 2: And we didn't get and not until the end of
51:32
Speaker 2: the week, and there still hasn't been a complete resolution
51:35
Speaker 2: of that. Where Tony you told me, I mean Rin
51:38
Speaker 2: Baker issued a statement about what happened in that game.
51:42
Speaker 2: So to me as a news guy, that was a
51:44
Speaker 2: legitimate pursuit of a story that still is not completely resolved.
51:49
Speaker 3: What what do you mean it's not result. I think
51:51
Speaker 3: he's right, he's right, he's right. I don't think he's right,
51:54
Speaker 3: he's right, and that I'm surprised these leagues, Like I
51:57
Speaker 3: get it, it's a slippery slope here of when do
52:00
Speaker 3: you comment and when do you not? But I just
52:03
Speaker 3: think they would be served well to have some explanations
52:06
Speaker 3: out there. If you miss it, you miss it. I
52:09
Speaker 3: think people can live with that. Right now, here's what
52:14
Speaker 3: the Big twelve is announced. They're they're about to open
52:17
Speaker 3: up video in the replay to watch and then audio
52:20
Speaker 3: will follow here soon, so that that'll start to be
52:23
Speaker 3: that's that's that's a step forward here to be able
52:26
Speaker 3: to see inside the replay and hear the discussions about
52:29
Speaker 3: what's going on. But I just think they'd be served
52:31
Speaker 3: to when there's a especially not when there's a pass
52:35
Speaker 3: interference called, but on procedural stuff like happened. I just
52:40
Speaker 3: think they'd be better served, yeah, to come in and say,
52:43
Speaker 3: here's what should have taken place there? It's been discussed
52:46
Speaker 3: and we'll move forward.
52:47
Speaker 2: I mean, here's exactly. Just just explain instead of like
52:51
Speaker 2: circling the wagons and not and just say, here's what
52:55
Speaker 2: the rules are, and here's why the rule is this,
52:58
Speaker 2: and don't not a judgment call and then issue a
53:01
Speaker 2: statement uh as to exactly why the ruling was or
53:04
Speaker 2: was I right? And then move on. I mean, as
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Speaker 2: it is here it is. You know, a week later,
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Speaker 2: was still going, well, wait a minute, what was exactly?
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Speaker 2: Why did they miss it? And they haven't said anything.
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Speaker 3: People are still saying, well, the half canon on a penalty,
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Speaker 3: I knew it, but that wasn't that wasn't it wasn't that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so totally agree. I agree with you. Yeah, total.
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Speaker 2: So it's not it's not about bashing the officials. It's
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Speaker 2: about clarity. Clarity, that's all you're looking for, and.
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Speaker 1: We need it more than ever before because of the
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Speaker 1: stakes that are involved in these games at a at
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Speaker 1: a level never seen before. Right, the gambling is at
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Speaker 1: an all time high and all a lot of these
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Speaker 1: things are being done as a because of that. Why
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Speaker 1: do we have injury reports that are coming out now
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Speaker 1: in the Big twelve? Why do you think it's exactly
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Speaker 1: for that and no other reason.
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Speaker 2: And ACC still has not unless I'm wrong, because i
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Speaker 2: ACC still is not issued.
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Speaker 3: State will be, and Wren they won't. That's that's the point.
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Speaker 2: They won't.
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Speaker 3: They'll say we don't comment on officiating.
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Speaker 2: And Wren's statement was pretty was and Wren does not
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Speaker 2: do that, right, correct Rin, I talked to him, You
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Speaker 2: talked to him. Wren doesn't do that, but he felt
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Speaker 2: compelled to do it in this instance. And even that
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Speaker 2: statement was fairly generic. It didn't get into the specificity
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Speaker 2: of what it was. So you end up still sitting
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Speaker 2: here going what was the rule and was there a
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Speaker 2: second left or was it three seconds or what? So
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Speaker 2: that to me is what's untenable about it, Not like, oh,
54:30
Speaker 2: West Virginia got screwed whatver, but this, that whole, the
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Speaker 2: fact that it's all a morphous a week later is
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Speaker 2: untenable when the stakes are this hot.
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Speaker 3: And what's interesting to me, And again, I would think
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Speaker 3: if you're inside that office and you've made the comment
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Speaker 3: we're not gonna comment on officiating, then then that they're
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Speaker 3: gonna try and stick to that, and they won't comment
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Speaker 3: on officiating on this, And then not others, But I
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Speaker 3: would think this would be one to comment on because
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Speaker 3: it didn't affect the outcome of the game. This would
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Speaker 3: seem to be an easy comment on the officiating because
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Speaker 3: you can say it and the fan base that was
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Speaker 3: affected by it it will lose their mind, will lose
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Speaker 3: its mind. But it didn't affect the game, so you
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Speaker 3: could comment fairly easy.
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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, And it would be It would be
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Speaker 2: a It would be an opportunity to have people being
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Speaker 2: more informed of about what the rules are because Tony,
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Speaker 2: we don't know the nuance of all the rules. You're
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Speaker 2: very familiar with it, we don't know all the nuances.
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Speaker 1: No, I totally agree. It just adds to the legitimacy
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Speaker 1: of the event. Seriously, Yes, it gives it clarity, and
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Speaker 1: it just says, hey, we understand, we're trying to do
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Speaker 1: our very best. Everyone's gonna make mistakes, We're trying to
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Speaker 1: do our very best. You're right that like SEC wasted
55:37
Speaker 1: no time yesterday and said, hey, Oklahoma, you can't hide
55:39
Speaker 1: a player and that should have been an unsportsmanlike call
55:42
Speaker 1: and that touchdown should not have counted. And they came
55:44
Speaker 1: right out and said it within hours of the game's completion,
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Speaker 1: and the ACC went totally hibernation mode. Honestly, just say, hey,
55:51
Speaker 1: this is what it should have been, this is what
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Speaker 1: it is. We got it, our guys will fix it
55:55
Speaker 1: going forward.
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Speaker 2: Done. How hard is that?
55:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not. That's what I'm saying. Afect the game. See,
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Speaker 3: you could easily comment, all right, whatever we're done.
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Speaker 1: We got a big week, We've got to get hoppy
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Speaker 1: in the basketball practice. We've got our live show excellent.
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Speaker 1: We invite you to do that.
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Speaker 2: What did I say that? Who they scrimmaging in that secret.
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Speaker 3: Scrimmage, secret probation?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. You can't even say anymore.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'd say it until the National Guys starts sweeting
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Speaker 3: box scores during it, and you can say it.
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Speaker 1: All right, they're not scrimmaging Maryland, Okay, thanks for being
56:51
Speaker 1: with us.
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Speaker 2: Three guys before the game. We'll return on Thursday.
56:55
Speaker 1: By then a deep dive into the utes first time
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Speaker 1: ever that they'll visit Morgantown at least Mount What weird.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I haven't looked it up.
57:05
Speaker 1: You like a nineteen nineteen if Utah took I took
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Speaker 1: three horses and five boats to come play a game
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Speaker 1: for no reason here, Well, you get.
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Speaker 3: Them at home. Good chance for Western need to jump
57:14
Speaker 3: out and lead the pack twelve standings after the first game.
57:17
Speaker 3: I got four of them this year against the pac twelve.
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Speaker 3: You'd like to get this first one.
57:21
Speaker 1: Rich's played these guys, he's played Kyle Buddingham before.
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Speaker 2: I have a showdown with Oregon State later. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, we're out. Thanks for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to our producer Braden See you have a great week.