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- 0:05Speaker 1: Soon.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Osher.
- 0:15Speaker 3: All Right, welcome to this week's Ozone podcast, and I'm
- 0:18Speaker 3: joined by some of the who is fast becoming one
- 0:20Speaker 3: of my favorite guests because it's always interesting to talk
- 0:22Speaker 3: to and watch Jaguars wide receiver Parker Washington.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Parker, thanks for doing this so year three.
- 0:29Speaker 3: I always ask players as they go along in their career,
- 0:31Speaker 3: but you've been through a lot in your career, so
- 0:35Speaker 3: maybe it does for you feel like year three it's.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Definitely your three, right, But it's like I said, it's
- 0:43Speaker 4: been a great journey.
- 0:45Speaker 1: A lot of new.
- 0:46Speaker 4: Faces, new players, new coaching, and then of course you
- 0:51Speaker 4: like we're coming into your three whole new staff. So
- 0:54Speaker 4: it's been a lot of change, but I'm enjoying it and.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Having fun with it.
- 0:58Speaker 4: I feel like that's been the best part for me,
- 1:01Speaker 4: is just continuing to just put my best foot forward
- 1:04Speaker 4: and just have some fun and embrace whatever role I have.
- 1:06Speaker 3: I want to get to your story here in a minute,
- 1:08Speaker 3: because again you continue to make strides. But tell me
- 1:11Speaker 3: about what you just talked about the team, and you
- 1:14Speaker 3: know I've been around here a long time. You've been
- 1:16Speaker 3: around a couple of years, but there's an energy and
- 1:19Speaker 3: auh in fact they're winning doesn't hurt. But just the
- 1:23Speaker 3: chemistry with this bunch, I'm assuming unlike you felt in
- 1:27Speaker 3: the past.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Definitely like for me, just what I'm seeing is from
- 1:32Speaker 4: the energy that head coach brings is unreal And this
- 1:37Speaker 4: is like the first time for me I see that
- 1:39Speaker 4: guys from top to bottom or just buying in regardless
- 1:44Speaker 4: that they don't feel the best or feel some type
- 1:48Speaker 4: of way, guys are still putting their best foot forward
- 1:50Speaker 4: and it's been cool to see that culture being built
- 1:54Speaker 4: and it's panning off for us and guys are loving
- 1:58Speaker 4: on each other, showing love and attacking each day and
- 2:02Speaker 4: each day it's like we got to continue to build
- 2:05Speaker 4: and continue to grow no matter what happens, no matter
- 2:07Speaker 4: what the circumstance is, Like, guys are just going.
- 2:10Speaker 1: So it's been fun to be a part of. Man,
- 2:12Speaker 1: we just got to keep pushing.
- 2:13Speaker 3: Now it's the topic of the week, So I gotta
- 2:15Speaker 3: ask where were you on Trevor's play? What was your
- 2:18Speaker 3: advantage point? And uh, you know, talk me through from
- 2:22Speaker 3: where you were.
- 2:24Speaker 4: So I was right there next to eb on the sideline,
- 2:28Speaker 4: and when he when it happened when.
- 2:30Speaker 1: In the place started, were like, okay, get up, get up.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Then we almost got up and fell again.
- 2:37Speaker 4: So me like usually for me in the game, like
- 2:40Speaker 4: I'm I don't have too much of a just a
- 2:42Speaker 4: big read like reaction, but like I'm just in my mind,
- 2:46Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my goodness, what is going on? But
- 2:49Speaker 4: I but the whole time I'm just standing there like
- 2:51Speaker 4: with a straight face the sidelines.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Are you having to watch on the board because you
- 2:55Speaker 2: were blocked from play.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I've seen it. I've seen it lot.
- 2:59Speaker 4: With my own no no screen anything, and just seeing
- 3:02Speaker 4: him just continuing to just play play through the whistle.
- 3:06Speaker 4: That's what I mean for a defense for offense. I
- 3:08Speaker 4: feel like that's just been our mindset finishing every single
- 3:11Speaker 4: play and just him being relentless with that mindset of
- 3:15Speaker 4: we got to make a play regardless and making that
- 3:18Speaker 4: play and that ultimately that one is the game.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Now, it seems to me back to your career a
- 3:23Speaker 3: little bit. If I had to pick a word to
- 3:26Speaker 3: describe you, perseverance.
- 3:28Speaker 2: You know, did you expect when you started your NFL
- 3:32Speaker 2: career to have to have this much perseverance? Because you
- 3:35Speaker 2: have been through a lot. I mean there's always been
- 3:39Speaker 2: your approach.
- 3:40Speaker 4: I feel like for me naturally, I've always been great
- 3:43Speaker 4: about just staying in the moment, like coming out. I mean,
- 3:48Speaker 4: I have surgery right right, so coming in it's like,
- 3:53Speaker 4: I know it's gonna be, it's gonna be, it's gonna
- 3:55Speaker 4: be more of a marathon instead of just a sprint.
- 3:58Speaker 4: So it's just that that mindset and that perspective helped
- 4:03Speaker 4: me to understand that it's gonna be some tough days
- 4:06Speaker 4: and it's gonna be some battle testing moments. So it's
- 4:09Speaker 4: just been cool to just see the growth more so
- 4:14Speaker 4: mentally for me physically.
- 4:16Speaker 1: I'm I could.
- 4:17Speaker 4: I would have told you day one or to the
- 4:19Speaker 4: like till now like I can. I can get out
- 4:22Speaker 4: there and make play. So it was more so a
- 4:24Speaker 4: mental growth for me, and I've just been grateful to
- 4:28Speaker 4: have these moments because it's building me into a better man,
- 4:31Speaker 4: a better person, and that's just gonna pay dividends in
- 4:34Speaker 4: the long run.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Got you Now, I probably asked you about this during
- 4:37Speaker 3: training camp, but to me, you know, if anybody would
- 4:42Speaker 3: have had to write this off season, just say you
- 4:43Speaker 3: know what I am where I'm gonna be on this team.
- 4:46Speaker 3: They had BTJ, they brought in Travis Hunter, they signed
- 4:49Speaker 3: Immy Brown.
- 4:50Speaker 2: You know, yet, through your play you have forced your
- 4:56Speaker 2: way into the rotation almost.
- 5:00Speaker 3: That a lot of people thought you couldn't get to
- 5:02Speaker 3: that point of playing as much as you are.
- 5:04Speaker 2: What does it say about you?
- 5:05Speaker 3: And I guess also this staff to be willing to say, hey,
- 5:08Speaker 3: this kid, this player deserves to be on the field.
- 5:12Speaker 3: I think you said something about both of you.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely, most importantly like just appreciating the coaching staff
- 5:19Speaker 4: seeing my value right, that's got to shout them out.
- 5:24Speaker 4: And it's just cool to be a part of having
- 5:26Speaker 4: a staff that knows that you can make these plays
- 5:30Speaker 4: and even though with this circumstance, still trying to find
- 5:34Speaker 4: a way to get me out there.
- 5:35Speaker 1: So that's cool to be a part of.
- 5:38Speaker 4: I feel like for me, it's just like I said,
- 5:40Speaker 4: just being president, being in the moment, you know, and
- 5:44Speaker 4: regardless of what the circumstance is, what our situation is
- 5:48Speaker 4: in our receiver room, just continuing to just like I say,
- 5:51Speaker 4: put my best foot forward, regardless if I'm going out
- 5:54Speaker 4: there to block, let's go block. If I'm going out
- 5:57Speaker 4: there to run down the fields, clear out the safety
- 6:00Speaker 4: and get the corners out the way for BT running
- 6:03Speaker 4: and this dagger.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Let's do it right.
- 6:05Speaker 4: So it's just having that mindset and just continue to
- 6:07Speaker 4: remind myself that it's only gonna get better. Just keep
- 6:11Speaker 4: keep going, keep attacking, keep focusing on just keeping the
- 6:15Speaker 4: main thing the main thing, having fun with it, and
- 6:17Speaker 4: just being my best self.
- 6:18Speaker 2: How does that room compliment each other?
- 6:20Speaker 4: I mean feel like for us, we're all close to
- 6:22Speaker 4: like the same age now, so it's like it.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Almost gives us like a college feel.
- 6:30Speaker 4: But it's just like I feel like a lot of
- 6:32Speaker 4: guys are connecting and nobody's selfish.
- 6:37Speaker 2: It seems like you're root for each other.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Definitely, And I feel like it's been real cool.
- 6:40Speaker 4: We just we just push each other to be our
- 6:42Speaker 4: best selves and have each other's back if we have
- 6:45Speaker 4: a tough play, tough drop man. I feel like that's
- 6:48Speaker 4: just been special for us because just as a team
- 6:51Speaker 4: as well, it's just it hasn't been pretty. But regardless
- 6:56Speaker 4: of what happens that previous play, I can guarantee you
- 6:58Speaker 4: one hundred percent that that next play, the guy next
- 7:01Speaker 4: to me got my back.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Right, people have always assumed.
- 7:05Speaker 3: I probably fall into it too, saying Parker Washington's a
- 7:08Speaker 3: slot receiver, but you're not, meaning you play all three positions,
- 7:14Speaker 3: and I assume take pride in being able to play
- 7:16Speaker 3: all three positions.
- 7:18Speaker 4: I feel like if I can, if I said, if
- 7:20Speaker 4: I said I had any goal is to get that
- 7:23Speaker 4: off me them just saying you're a slot. So I
- 7:26Speaker 4: feel like from college all the way up to this point,
- 7:30Speaker 4: it's just been a battle of being like, well, I
- 7:32Speaker 4: can't play outside.
- 7:33Speaker 2: So when you see slot you kind of roll your
- 7:34Speaker 2: eyes at it.
- 7:35Speaker 4: Right, Actually, I feel I feel like that's where I
- 7:38Speaker 4: can really like make some money, like really being because
- 7:42Speaker 4: I mean, you have to be savvy in the slot.
- 7:43Speaker 4: You have to understand defense, and you have to be
- 7:45Speaker 4: able to think quick and understand the show, the coverage it.
- 7:49Speaker 1: So it's just like I love the slot.
- 7:51Speaker 4: But then again, it's cool for coaches or my teammates
- 7:55Speaker 4: to be like, well, he can win on the outside too,
- 7:58Speaker 4: and that just I mean, just being versatile and just
- 8:01Speaker 4: continue to prove my value. I feel like that's been
- 8:04Speaker 4: the main thing for me is just you know, I
- 8:07Speaker 4: feel like for myself, I can be a great all
- 8:09Speaker 4: around receiver.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Where have you since your rookie year improved the most?
- 8:15Speaker 4: Just taking care of the body and no, I take
- 8:19Speaker 4: that back, Like we just talked about just mindset, perspective
- 8:23Speaker 4: and no matter what, like just having that hunger to
- 8:28Speaker 4: just continue to be my best self, continue to put
- 8:30Speaker 4: my bestl forward, continue to get better, continue to always
- 8:34Speaker 4: find ways to Okay, maybe I could have did this
- 8:36Speaker 4: different or maybe, but just having that respective of just
- 8:40Speaker 4: there's always room to grow. And that's where it's like
- 8:43Speaker 4: chople with carry water. Let's keep building, you know, no
- 8:46Speaker 4: matter what, We're gonna keep stacking blocks, doing the little
- 8:49Speaker 4: things the right way, and just having fun.
- 8:52Speaker 3: I may have sort of asked you this, but I'll
- 8:53Speaker 3: come back to how do you maintain confidence.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Through three years? But really all along? Where does that
- 9:04Speaker 2: come from? To maintain that?
- 9:05Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of ways you can continue to
- 9:09Speaker 4: have that confidence, most importantly through.
- 9:11Speaker 1: The work, Like we know that just every day, just
- 9:14Speaker 1: every day, most importantly through the work.
- 9:16Speaker 4: You gotta continue to cause if you don't do it
- 9:19Speaker 4: in the work, I mean, how are you gonna what
- 9:21Speaker 4: makes what tells you that you're gonna do it out
- 9:23Speaker 4: there on Sunday?
- 9:24Speaker 1: Right? So the work most importantly.
- 9:26Speaker 4: Then secondly, I feel like the confidence come from how
- 9:31Speaker 4: like yourself talk? What are you telling yourself? What are
- 9:33Speaker 4: you thinking? What's your mindset? So that's the next aspect.
- 9:38Speaker 4: And then from there it's just who's your circle, Who
- 9:41Speaker 4: do you lean on? Who are you letting feed into
- 9:44Speaker 4: what you think? Like, what are they saying is reaching? Yeah,
- 9:47Speaker 4: who's reached? So I feel like those three aspects all
- 9:50Speaker 4: come together to build confidence. And for me personally, the
- 9:53Speaker 4: main thing for me is just the work. It's just
- 9:56Speaker 4: just that simple. Is I didn't get here without it, right,
- 10:00Speaker 4: Like from rookie year to now, the only thing that
- 10:02Speaker 4: got me here is continue to prove myself and continuing
- 10:06Speaker 4: to execute, continue to produce. So that's how that's how
- 10:09Speaker 4: I approach that, and with that, that builds confidence. When
- 10:13Speaker 4: when a coach literally I mean for my touchdown, coach
- 10:18Speaker 4: Coin put me literally called a personnel that we didn't
- 10:21Speaker 4: have in the game plan to put me in a
- 10:23Speaker 4: position to make a play, You go out there, you execute.
- 10:27Speaker 4: That's right, that's a confidence booster. You got your head,
- 10:29Speaker 4: coach believed in you to make a play. You went
- 10:31Speaker 4: out there and made a play in a big time
- 10:33Speaker 4: moment down by two touchdowns, be that spark, and that's
- 10:38Speaker 4: that's for me, is a piece of that confidence aspect
- 10:41Speaker 4: and that that gets me when I come out here
- 10:42Speaker 4: this week, it's like these practices is like, let's keep
- 10:45Speaker 4: building on that, and that's what motivates me to be like, Okay,
- 10:49Speaker 4: we're just going to continue to stay.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Present, have some fun and be my best self to.
- 10:55Speaker 2: Take me through that.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Again, it was not originally in the game for you
- 11:00Speaker 3: to be in that spot.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Or we didn't call it that way for the game plan.
- 11:05Speaker 1: And when he did, and he said.
- 11:07Speaker 4: Pretty much is like eleven wash, eleven wash or twelve
- 11:10Speaker 4: wash puts me at the Z spot. And I was like,
- 11:14Speaker 4: I don't think we had this one. But as soon
- 11:16Speaker 4: as we don't have this, but as soon as we
- 11:19Speaker 4: went in a huddle, I was like, okay, I understand
- 11:21Speaker 4: what's going on.
- 11:22Speaker 1: And then we went out there, we got that man
- 11:24Speaker 1: look and I was like, yeah.
- 11:26Speaker 2: It's gotta be an incredible feeling, right.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Great feeling just to know that, like you said, your
- 11:31Speaker 4: coach believes in you to make a play, and like
- 11:35Speaker 4: I said, we go back to the work. This is
- 11:37Speaker 4: a play that I made plenty of times in training camp,
- 11:42Speaker 4: so it's not like it's never been done before.
- 11:44Speaker 1: So that's why I say the work.
- 11:45Speaker 2: But he saw it and said, now's the moment.
- 11:48Speaker 3: So what made him the right fit for this team
- 11:53Speaker 3: at this time meaning William.
- 11:56Speaker 4: Just how intentional he is about his energy as much
- 12:02Speaker 4: as much as it is a business, he finds a
- 12:06Speaker 4: way to build that connection with his players. Were literally
- 12:11Speaker 4: just talking about this today with him. We had a
- 12:13Speaker 4: little quick one on one just saying, like you don't
- 12:17Speaker 4: get that much from a.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Head coach, there's one one with you and him.
- 12:21Speaker 4: It was just me and him, just a quick conversation
- 12:23Speaker 4: right before practice, and I was I literally said, I
- 12:27Speaker 4: appreciate that you taking the time to at least do that. Sure,
- 12:31Speaker 4: whether if it means something or not, still, but you
- 12:34Speaker 4: just the act of just taking the time to even
- 12:37Speaker 4: consider like having some conversations like that means everything.
- 12:42Speaker 1: You don't have to do that right.
- 12:43Speaker 4: Me as me as a player, I know how much
- 12:45Speaker 4: of a business this is. I've seen so many guys
- 12:49Speaker 4: in and out of this place.
- 12:51Speaker 1: It's business.
- 12:52Speaker 4: And so just with him taking the time to be
- 12:53Speaker 4: that and be intentional about it, it's bringing his team
- 12:56Speaker 4: closer because guys are buying into like the energy and
- 13:01Speaker 4: that just it's just been trickling down from top to
- 13:03Speaker 4: bottom and guys are just and that's what's making this
- 13:06Speaker 4: thing go.
- 13:07Speaker 3: It's a little thing, but it sounds like it's everything.
- 13:11Speaker 3: Punt return or wide receiver.
- 13:12Speaker 2: What do you like better?
- 13:14Speaker 3: Because all of a sudden you're pun I mean, all
- 13:16Speaker 3: of a sudden you're making plays at that spot.
- 13:20Speaker 4: It's real simple. I mean for me, I'm gonna tell you,
- 13:22Speaker 4: I'm a receiver through and through. But it's really cool
- 13:27Speaker 4: to make plays on punt return And I don't mind.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Now, did you grow up always returning punts or when
- 13:32Speaker 3: did that sort of it took off?
- 13:34Speaker 1: When I got here?
- 13:35Speaker 4: Okay, I've never took a punt return back ever in
- 13:39Speaker 4: my life until that London game by last year. So
- 13:43Speaker 4: it's new to me and I'm still I'm still learning
- 13:46Speaker 4: and getting the feel.
- 13:47Speaker 1: I mean, cause this is my first year.
- 13:49Speaker 4: Like really like starting the whole way through so this
- 13:53Speaker 4: and that's crazy to say, like that's my first time
- 13:56Speaker 4: having a full time job, like full time like starting
- 14:00Speaker 4: at this spot. So it's been still been a learning
- 14:03Speaker 4: curve for me. But it's cool to make plays and
- 14:06Speaker 4: big moments for sure, and hopefully we there's plenty more
- 14:09Speaker 4: to come.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Tell me about this. Where did this start?
- 14:12Speaker 1: Where'd that car heard that start from? So? So start
- 14:15Speaker 1: in college?
- 14:16Speaker 4: So Joey Porter Junior is with I mean, we know
- 14:19Speaker 4: he's with Stellers now, him and the dB group at
- 14:23Speaker 4: a school. They would they would do it like like this,
- 14:26Speaker 4: like real close, and they'll say like, no flyes on,
- 14:28Speaker 4: like they're saying they're talking trash us, no flys on.
- 14:31Speaker 4: So what I did with that, I was like, Okay,
- 14:34Speaker 4: we make a play. They would do that to us
- 14:36Speaker 4: in practice. So I will meet somebody on our team
- 14:39Speaker 4: on our receipt in our receiver room.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Make a play.
- 14:41Speaker 4: We would just just crazy, just like do it out
- 14:45Speaker 4: of control, like just to pretty much to mock them.
- 14:47Speaker 4: So that happened in practice. Then I said, okay, I
- 14:50Speaker 4: might do this in a game. So I scored in
- 14:53Speaker 4: the white out verse I believe who was in Minnesota.
- 14:57Speaker 4: It was a big catch, like when up made a
- 15:00Speaker 4: big play in the middle of the field on the post,
- 15:02Speaker 4: got up and I did it and it was real cool,
- 15:05Speaker 4: like God was like yeah, everybody, yeah, they was. They
- 15:09Speaker 4: started doing it a little bit and then that following
- 15:10Speaker 4: week we played Ohio State, had a big like fifty
- 15:14Speaker 4: something yard like slant, took it to the crib, did
- 15:17Speaker 4: it again, and so it settled out. I got here
- 15:20Speaker 4: my rookie year, and Chad Hall he plays like all
- 15:25Speaker 4: the rookies like highlights from college, so they put mine
- 15:29Speaker 4: on and so like guys like Zay, Christian Kirk and h.
- 15:34Speaker 1: S Rid was here at them. I couldn't believe.
- 15:37Speaker 4: I don't know if d was here, but some of
- 15:39Speaker 4: the older oh agnew it wasn't yet, so it was
- 15:42Speaker 4: agnew see.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Kirk z They all saw it. The whole room saw it.
- 15:46Speaker 4: And it was a Friday practice and they were like
- 15:49Speaker 4: they saw me do the celebration on the on the
- 15:51Speaker 4: video and they were like they all were laughing, were like, man,
- 15:55Speaker 4: that's crazy.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Whatever.
- 15:56Speaker 4: We went to that that practice that same day, every catch,
- 16:00Speaker 4: every touchdown because it's the redsone day, every touchdown, that's.
- 16:03Speaker 1: All they did.
- 16:04Speaker 4: Everybody was doing it, so it kind of brought a
- 16:07Speaker 4: little bit of energy and juice to the team.
- 16:09Speaker 1: So they were like, you gotta do this now.
- 16:12Speaker 4: So that's I didn't plan to do it anymore, but
- 16:15Speaker 4: when it's when it it kind of became a thing
- 16:17Speaker 4: where if it's gonna bring energy and bring juice to
- 16:19Speaker 4: the squad, I mean, let's do it.
- 16:22Speaker 1: I mean that's what it's all about.
- 16:23Speaker 4: Being a spark and you gotta this thing is real repetitive,
- 16:27Speaker 4: so you gotta find a way to continue to bring
- 16:29Speaker 4: the energy. And that's what, like I said, that's what
- 16:31Speaker 4: Coach Cohen been doing a really good job. Just continue
- 16:34Speaker 4: to bring the energy, continue to have that mindset of
- 16:36Speaker 4: like we're going to continue to get better and keep growing.
- 16:38Speaker 4: So that's been my take on it, and that's why
- 16:41Speaker 4: I continue to do it.
- 16:42Speaker 3: And you can talk Liam after every wind into doing
- 16:44Speaker 3: that that what's going on?
- 16:47Speaker 2: Got o thing?
- 16:48Speaker 1: Yeah, let her let him rock out? All right?
- 16:51Speaker 3: Very quickly, we finish off what we call the ozone.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Five Parker Washington, What was your last tinge?
- 16:59Speaker 1: Watch the person of interest on.
- 17:04Speaker 3: It?
- 17:04Speaker 2: Who's the prime your pregame song or artist?
- 17:08Speaker 4: If you have one, I'll go a little bit, I'll
- 17:14Speaker 4: go i' must say a little baby.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Your most memorable football play?
- 17:19Speaker 1: Most memorable football play.
- 17:23Speaker 4: It has, I'll say I would just say a game.
- 17:25Speaker 4: It was high school and what started my recruitment process.
- 17:28Speaker 4: Four touchdowns.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Uh.
- 17:31Speaker 4: College coach came out. He he wasn't even recruiting me.
- 17:35Speaker 4: Went crazy, got recruited that same night.
- 17:38Speaker 2: And be your go to show when you were a.
- 17:46Speaker 4: Kid, Go to show when I was a kid, I
- 17:50Speaker 4: like SpongeBob and I Carly.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Okay, my son was into that too. That's fine.
- 17:55Speaker 3: Your go to athlete, go to athletes or you must
- 17:58Speaker 3: see athlete.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Must I thinte you want to see.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Most Cam Newton Okay, crazy miss Most guys say Lebron
- 18:06Speaker 3: in here.
- 18:06Speaker 1: But then I mean, you know.
- 18:10Speaker 2: That fits it was.
- 18:11Speaker 3: It was the time you were formed in football, Parker.
- 18:13Speaker 3: I always enjoy talking to You'll let you get here.
- 18:15Speaker 3: I know it's a busy week. Thank you for joining
- 18:17Speaker 3: the ozone podcast.
- 18:18Speaker 1: I appreciate you.