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NFL Week 4 Injury Report & News | Achane, Jefferson, Mayfield & More | Tent Talk · Banter with the Boys

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  Welcome back to Banter with the Boys Gridiron
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  Updates. This is our tent talk episode. This
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  is Smeltsy. Next to me is Roberto and Jake. As
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  always, you always hear them every week. Yeah,
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  it's very good. Behind the camera is Kevin. Oh,
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  man, that's the first time I've used your full
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  name on any episode of Banter with the Boys ever.
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  Anyway, whatever. So let's get right into our
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  first little piece of information here. This
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  is going to be our injuries, a little bit of
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  injuries here. Tell me more. A lot of injuries.
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  Working on it. Devon Achan. Done for the season
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  -torn ACL right before, you know, their big game
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  against the Vikings. So unfortunate for them.
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  For him. For him, for them, the whole thing.
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  The one superstar they had. Aren't they an 0
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  -3 team right now, too? Yes, sir. Oh, that reminds
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  me. I've got a question in news. We'll try and
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  remember to ask you. I should probably type it
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  down here. Like the Colts. Hold on. Give me two
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  seconds. 1 ,001. 1 ,002. There it is. Sorry.
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  I was just typing. Clearly can't multitask. Okay.
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  Brian Burns. Edge. Torn ACL. Done for the season.
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  Huge L for the Giants. Also, yeah. He was going
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  into the game with, like, ankle tightness or
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  ankle soreness. From the week before. Right.
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  I think it was questionable. So, why? And this
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  goes back to my concerns with Zay Flowers. It's
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  just like, give him the extra week off. You're
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  saying why rush? Yeah, why rush? We don't know,
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  but there's the possibility that Burns being
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  like, I'm going to get back out there and play
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  because I want to play football for my team,
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  made it worse for himself by going out there
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  and playing injured because your body is going
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  to try and compensate for that injury in order
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  to accelerate, continue to exceed at doing what
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  it is that he wants to do. And that could have
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  potentially resulted or caused the... the Achilles
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  injury. Obviously, I'm not a doctor, but that's
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  one of those things. Dr. Jake? No. Medicine man.
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  But it's just like, why rush these things, especially
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  when it's so... The flock. Yes. I like that.
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  The flock. Oh, man. That's probably going to
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  end up sticking. Jake, the flock. The flock.
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  No, but just... Take your time coming back. It's
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  18 weeks. I mean, it seems short, but it's still
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  a long season. Basically, what the flock doc
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  over here is saying is that the next guy on our
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  list should sit out this week. So Jeddah's left
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  the game with an ankle. You're playing the winless
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  dolphins. You're saying, why? That's an example.
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  Yeah, 100%. You don't like 4 -0? Anyway, Baker
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  Mayfield. Baker's done for possibly a couple
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  weeks with his messing up his thumb there on
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  the throwing hand. He came right off the field
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  too, like immediately. Well, no, he didn't actually.
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  He rolled around on the ground for a little bit.
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  And then he got up. Sorry. I said he came off
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  the field to me. No, no, he rolled around. No,
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  I mean, make sure he rolled around. That's right.
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  Well, no, I mean, he's a tougher dude probably
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  than me ever. Fair. Between him and like Stafford
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  playing with a bad rib in Detroit. I'll never
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  forget that. Anyway, sorry. Here we go. Another
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  bad one. Josh Oliver. It's not a funny thing,
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  but I'm sorry. Taurus freaking bicep. I guess
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  I thought I heard a story. Maybe this was Kay
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  fan. uh that he was coming off the field and
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  they wanted to check him out he's like nope nope
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  i already know sorry it's gone like i felt the
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  pull like i already know type of deal so i'm
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  pretty sure he needed surgery even right away
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  to get that back together so josh oliver done
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  for the season uh for the vikings at tight end
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  uh bruce hall uh suffered a thigh injury a high
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  thigh injury in the fourth quarter i don't know
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  when he will be back either if that's just going
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  to be like like a deep bone bruise type of situation
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  or hip flexor type thing. I haven't heard like
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  what exactly that is. Have you guys heard any
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  more on Greece? No, but I pick up Alan. Yeah.
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  You know, I understand the, the apprehension
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  back. Yeah. Don't rush him. I mean, yeah. Cause
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  he's the, I mean, isn't that where you want to
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  hit the running backs anyways is like right around
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  the waist or the thighs. So that's the next soundbite.
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  Don't rush him back. You guys want to hear a
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  fun fact about running backs? Yeah, might as
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  well. 18 running backs are on pace to hit 1 ,000
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  yards this year. Whoa, 18? That's not going to
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  happen. I'm just telling you my information.
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  Just made it up. Oh, damn it. I saw it earlier
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  today. Jesus. Anyway, Travis Etienne, he left
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  the New Orleans. to the Vegas Raiders in the
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  third quarter after appearing to suffer a leg
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  injury. No update on that yet either. TBD, TBD.
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  I saw Mike Evans leave on that card, I'm pretty
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  sure, as well. That was not a pretty sight to
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  see. No, no. He didn't look thrilled about it
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  either. That is wrong, actually, what this says
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  right here. But, yes, Mike Evans also left the
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  game. Trent Williams also. leaving the game as
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  well his status i think is still questionable
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  leading into week four so niners still banged
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  up right now as well yeah who do they play this
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  week uh niners niners a good one i believe against
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  we were talking right they were almost going
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  to be one of our games and we just broncos that's
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  right yeah yeah so definitely need trent williams
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  for that game uh and you would also obviously
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  like to have mike evans or mike evans yeah mike
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  williams unbelievable Anyway, what other injuries
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  you guys have going on here? If you play center
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  for the Baltimore Ravens, you are injured. Okay.
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  So something we didn't discuss in the week three
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  recap, the injuries. So the Baltimore Ravens
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  starting at backup centers both got hurt during
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  the game. And so they had to. So they transitioned
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  Venga Ione, our rookie guard. to center because
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  he had like 14 snaps in college. So it makes
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  perfect sense. That's relevant. Yeah. Hey, you've
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  got experience. Go do this. So he finished the
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  game at center and is likely to be starting at
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  center this upcoming week against the Titans.
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  So that's kind of a big deal. For sure. Don't
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  have a real starting center. Yeah. Do you think
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  someone gets picked up then? Yeah. I would think
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  you. I don't know who, but yeah, I'm going to
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  be picking Kelsey. I mean, no. You gave me the
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  problem. I gave you a solution. I don't know.
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  I don't know what to do. That's fine. That's
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  fine. Any other injuries for your flock? No.
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  No. Good. Not off the top of my head. No defenders
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  right now? No, not yet. Ronnie Stanley, the starting
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  left tackle, he didn't play this past week. Um,
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  but he's likely the toe injury. He's likely to
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  be playing this week. Fingers crossed. Just banged
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  up a line story of every team's lives. Uh, let's
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  hit some, uh, just a couple of little small news
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  bits. Nothing crazy. Uh, I don't know. One of
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  those felt crazy. Which one? Yeah. That felt
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  crazy to you. It did. Ditto. I was actually a
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  little disappointed in that just because like
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  I wasn't necessarily ready to give up on JJ McCarthy
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  as a Viking fan because of how Kyler played.
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  So funny that this trade comes out after that
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  that game to like, yep. Nope. We're fully comfortable
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  with what Kyler Murray gave us this week. So
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  we're going to go ahead and trade the guy that
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  we thought was going to be the franchise quarterback.
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  Seems wild to me and for a fifth round pick.
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  I think if I'm the Giants, I'm pretty psyched.
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  And he can't be worse than Jameis Winston, right?
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  Coming from a Jameis guy, that's pretty huge.
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  That's the other part of the weird and crazy
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  to me. So the Giants are trading for J .J. McCarthy,
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  but what are you expecting? To get out of him.
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  You've got Jameis. More than what Jameis has
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  given you. I would imagine. But your sample size
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  with Jameis is so small as far as within this
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  particular offense. That's not to say, again,
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  that Jameis is going to be that roller coaster.
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  At some point, he's going to go off and do some
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  amazing stuff potentially. Too bad we didn't
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  get Jameis. No. But you have. But the Giants
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  have contractual control of JJ for this year
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  and next year. They don't get the opportunity
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  to do his fourth -year option. Fifth -year. Excuse
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  me, fifth -year option. Thank you. But you already
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  have Jackson Dart. So you're trading for a young
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  quarterback when you already have a young quarterback
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  that you're going to be starting. What's your
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  thought process? He's the backup. That's how
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  I think. That's how I'm viewing this. No, right
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  now. They're not thinking about next year. They're
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  thinking when Jameis goes down. Now, then what?
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  Oh, you don't think. Obviously, this week, Jameis
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  starts for sure. But I feel like the week after,
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  I feel like you don't trade for Jameis. He's
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  got to know the playbook. I don't know who's
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  the OC. That's fair, because I wasn't thinking
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  it. I was like, there was no way that... I was
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  questioning whether or not the Giants were giving
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  up on Jameson after they paid him a decent amount
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  of money for a backup quarterback, and then all
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  of a sudden you're bringing in this other young
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  one. I mean, put it if you're in the Vikings
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  shoes right now. Let's say Murray's not here
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  and Wentz is starting, and then you have an opportunity
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  to get a young quarterback as a backup. Well,
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  who is the third string right now in the Giants?
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  They don't have one. I don't know. I looked at
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  their roster the other day. It was literally
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  blank. They went into the season with two. But
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  they have a practice squad quarterback that they
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  could bring up. So they got Max Brosner. He would
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  be better than a practice squad quarterback,
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  which makes me nervous because once the GM for
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  the Vikes did mention Max Brosner. Yeah, as like
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  continuing to develop Max. Yeah, they signed
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  him officially today off the practice squad.
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  Max. Yeah. So he must be really developing. Brosmer.
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  I'm looking at it for the Giants. It's a backup
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  plan for Jameis. Say he does really start to
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  struggle and then you're like, well, and JJ's
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  been there for a few weeks, knows the offense.
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  Throw him in there. Yeah, no, you make a good
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  point. I was definitely in your boat, too. It
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  was like, well, you don't trade for him to not
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  start. Yeah. For sure. I know. We're overlooking
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  it. But that also, to me, answered the question
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  as to whose decision it was to draft JJ. This
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  is the book I want to read. I want to know the
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  best. Based on that, I don't think it was KOC.
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  I think it was Kwesi's dude. And I want to know
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  on the back side whether if there was any issues.
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  I don't think JJ was the dude to have any issues.
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  But also did the agent go, all right, we want
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  to trade. We're not going to make it public.
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  We'll just keep it closed doors. And they found
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  a spot for him. Because JJ's like, I just want
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  to go play. I want an opportunity to play. Which,
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  as an athlete, I mean, that's what I'd want to
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  do, too. He's buried third on the chart. Why
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  not get an opportunity to play? But I thought
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  they could get a third. I thought the Vikings
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  had all the leverage. They didn't need to get
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  rid of him. I don't know. Is there a roster spot
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  that they needed so bad to move them? I don't
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  think so. You know, so, like, for a fifth, I
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  think that fifth round options, they're week
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  10. And then we know where Murray's at, you know,
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  because Wentz is a drop back away. I feel like
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  every time to go down, Max is coming in now.
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  Right, right, right. All right. OBJ released
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  today. After 19 snaps for the Giants. Yep. It's
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  got to be about the end almost. Probably. It'll
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  linger around this year. Someone else might pick
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  him up. At least you got one more chance. 49ers
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  maybe with Evans. They just need receiver depth.
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  That's actually a good point. Let's see. We have
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  a few teams that are 0 -3. The Miami Dolphins.
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  The Tennessee Titans. The Houston Texans. The
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  Chargers. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Do any of
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  them have a shot at making the playoffs? Only
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  0 -3. Texans, definitely, for sure, just because
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  of their division. I don't feel like there's
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  a team that's going to be 12 -5, 13 -4, whatever.
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  Chargers aren't. Not with their schedule. Tough
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  division right now, too, when the Raiders are
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  off to a hard start. Is it a fake 3 -0 for the
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  Raiders? Well, they haven't really played like
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  this week against the Chiefs. It's a good test.
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  We'll talk about that game. Actually, you know,
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  preview and picture teaser. Yeah, that's right.
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  Titans. I don't think stand a chance. Yeah. I
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  mean, I still I think they could maybe get hot
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  and squeeze out six. But, you know, I don't see
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  him winning nine. Right now, I think Buccaneers
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  could get to eight and eight. But with the way
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  that Carolina started, I mean, I think last game
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  against the Browns is kind of potentially the
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  anomaly out of the three. And with with New Orleans
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  looking really strong, too, even though they're
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  two and one, one and two, one and two. Excuse
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  me. They stand a chance, but I don't think we'll
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  make it. This bowl's number one first share on
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  hot seat right now in the NFL. Not if you're
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  in the Midwest. But, I mean, anywhere else. I
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  think so. Anywhere else you would think. All
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  in three teams, you just name them off. I think
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  I wouldn't disagree with that. And Harbaugh,
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  no. Ryan, no. Miami, no. He's a first -year.
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  Could be Bulls. Bulls are the flair. If the Packers
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  lose another one, oh, my God, they're going to
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  lose their minds. Packers fans. You're going
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  wild on the Internet. Oh, my God, dude. That's
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  right. That's the game this week is Packers at
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  Tampa Bay. So it's a battle of who's going to
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  get fired. Maybe this week. What if we might
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  have to add that game now? Oh, boy. The name
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  of it would be a great title. Who's getting fired?
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  Yeah. Who's getting fired? Game. Perfect. We're
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  doing it now. Right on. Right on. All right.
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  Let's finish up this so we can add it. Right.
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  Right. Right. This is the end of our tent talk
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  episode. Not much going on this week, but a couple
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  of tidbits that we always try to throw at you.
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  We'll save Rob's Roberto's fantasy minute for
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  next week. How about that? That's fine. I was
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  just going to talk about more injuries. There's
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  not really a ton of movement going on. Right
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  on. Right on. Kev, you're Jake to my left. Yo.
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