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TOBIAS SAMMET Reflects on AVATASIA’s Evolving Sound And Hints At Future Tours · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Hello, this is to be a summit of Advantasia and
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  Speaker 1: well you may say it's a biased and that's all fine,
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  Speaker 1: but that's who I am, Toby of Advantage.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Toby for you, brilliant, Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Look, with the new album set to release so soon,
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  Speaker 3: is there any hint on an Australian tour.
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  Speaker 1: There is no hint yet, but I want to go
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  Speaker 1: back because last time has been amazing. It's been I mean,
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  Speaker 1: unlike what everybody wants to tell you. There is a
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  Speaker 1: heavy metal audience in Australia and so so I you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no plans yet, but there is no plan to
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  Speaker 1: go to Latin America as well, and to North America
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  Speaker 1: and all this is going to happen. I mean, there
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  Speaker 1: are plans to go to Latin America, I have to say,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing is confirmed yet. So long story short, I hope.
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  Speaker 1: I can't promise anything yet. Yeah, but I really hope
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  Speaker 1: we can make it work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we hope you can make it over too. And
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  Speaker 3: Against the Wind has such a powerful and uplifting message.
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  Speaker 3: What inspired the themes behind the song and how you
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  Speaker 3: relate to them on a personal level?
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  Speaker 1: I think I think the message that lies underneath. Has
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  Speaker 1: been inspired by my life and by reflecting what I
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  Speaker 1: have been experiencing on my way to where I am now,
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  Speaker 1: not just as a musician, but as a general person,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because you often face situations where you where
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  Speaker 1: people want you to be their rendition of what they
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  Speaker 1: of of of you. So so there's often expectations and
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  Speaker 1: and I think, uh, it's it's just I was just
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  Speaker 1: looking back at it. The whole song was given birth
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  Speaker 1: to I believe, not the whole song, but the lyrics
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  Speaker 1: when I was standing at the at the shoreline of
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  Speaker 1: Cornwall and I was looking over it was beautiful side,
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  Speaker 1: and it was very, very inspiring. And I'm a very
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  Speaker 1: visual person. And when I'm in a certain surrounding, I
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  Speaker 1: really really certain surroundings change my mood and they tickle
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  Speaker 1: my creativity and they make me want to express thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and they do something to the sorts that I've been
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  Speaker 1: carrying for a while and just give him a certain twist,
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  Speaker 1: and then it all is flooding out, so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: So that was what it was. And yeah, so it's
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  Speaker 1: a reflection on what I've been through, and of course
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a little it's a little flick of the
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  Speaker 1: bird at all the naysayers and you know, there's the
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  Speaker 1: spirit of and all the spirit it's it's about what
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  Speaker 1: kept me going on obviously years, because you sometimes need
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  Speaker 1: a certain pressure from the other side to get aware
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  Speaker 1: of who you are and what you want to do
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  Speaker 1: and just say fuck you do it my way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's no.
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it because there was really an fu
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  Speaker 3: saying stuff you all, I'm going to be who I
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  Speaker 3: am and yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Your collaborations with talented artists like Kenny let La Cremo
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  Speaker 3: have been a standout feature on Advantageous Music.
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  Speaker 2: What is it about his voice that made the perfect
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  Speaker 2: fit for the track?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? He is an amazing singer overall. And I first
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  Speaker 1: got to know Kenny in twenty nine, I believe two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and nine where we taught when we took a
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  Speaker 1: heat out on tour with Ed Guy, and he was
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  Speaker 1: an amazing I mean, the whole band is great, and
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  Speaker 1: the songwriting is great, and they're playing great. It was
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  Speaker 1: really funny to see these back then young kids play
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  Speaker 1: like a real old band but have the old qualities.
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  Speaker 1: They sounded very seasoned, but they're were and there were
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  Speaker 1: kids on stage, and I knew that Kenny was a
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  Speaker 1: big part of that magic, and I liked his voice,
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  Speaker 1: and when he was out on the road with us
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  Speaker 1: with Antasia at twenty twenty four, I had a feeling.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he could do all these things technically, He's
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  Speaker 1: got no limitations to his voice. It's a very juvenile
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  Speaker 1: sounding voice. He hasn't blowed out his voice yet like
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  Speaker 1: all the others of us have. So he's a he's
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  Speaker 1: a real he's a real technical prodigy singing, having a
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  Speaker 1: huge range, and he can do all these things that
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  Speaker 1: are required in power metal. It's a very demanding of
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  Speaker 1: power metal, you know what I mean, the technical way
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  Speaker 1: of singing metal like Bruce Dickens and rob Out for
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Date, Michael Kisk kind of thing. And he knows
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  Speaker 1: how to do all these things. But he also has
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  Speaker 1: this a r background. And I had the song against
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  Speaker 1: the Wind, and while it's on the surface a very
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  Speaker 1: very typical speed metal, European metal, neoclassical metal, whatever you
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  Speaker 1: call it song, I think it has this little twist
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  Speaker 1: in the chorus and the phrasing and the melody, it
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  Speaker 1: has almost some journey feel to it. And he has
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  Speaker 1: this background, this sol not so necessarily, but so leish
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  Speaker 1: ao r background as well. He understands Journey and he
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  Speaker 1: understands Boston and he understands that type of music. So
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  Speaker 1: I thought it's the best of both worlds. And so
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  Speaker 1: I said, he's going to sing the song. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't say he's going to sing the song with us.
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  Speaker 1: I said, I said, I'm going to ask him if
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  Speaker 1: he wants to sing that song with us. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's how it came together.
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  Speaker 3: And thank god she said yes, because he just fits
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  Speaker 3: on it so perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're saying, he's an amazing singer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's sorry?
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  Speaker 3: Having such a rich musical history, how would you say
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  Speaker 3: advantageous sound has evolved over the years.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think he beg Dragons represents in a
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  Speaker 2: bigger picture of advantageous Journey.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a very very advantasious sounding record.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really it. It has all the trademarks,
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  Speaker 1: it has to offer something new, which is not to
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  Speaker 1: be making for granted, when you're a musician who's been
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  Speaker 1: doing it for thirty odd years, I've been you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been around for forty seven actually, but I think
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  Speaker 1: I started recording back in ninety five, ninety four with
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  Speaker 1: it could I. So that's thirty one years. So long
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  Speaker 1: story short, it's not to be taken for granted that
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  Speaker 1: you come up with stuff that you haven't done before.
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  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't blame anybody for doing it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: ACDZ I've been doing it for about eighty five years.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I perceive it to be. And of course
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  Speaker 1: they come up with stuff that they've done before, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad they do because that means ACDC is still
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  Speaker 1: around and alive and kicking and doing stuff. So for us,
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  Speaker 1: it was I really had a feeling that it was
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  Speaker 1: new material that we offered that we haven't done that
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  Speaker 1: way before, and that's nothing to be taken for granted.
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  Speaker 1: And for the first time in Advantae's career, and that's
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  Speaker 1: a funny thing because it sounds so Advantae Yo the record,
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  Speaker 1: But for the first time in our career, it is
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  Speaker 1: not a conceptual album. I mean conceptual to a certain extent.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is conceptual to a certain extent because you're in
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  Speaker 1: a certain state of mind, You're in a certain frame
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  Speaker 1: of a mental state at a certain given time, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why everything is a bit cohesive when you work
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  Speaker 1: when you're putting an album together over a certain period
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  Speaker 1: of time. But this record is just based on short
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  Speaker 1: stories and it was a great liberating approach because for
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  Speaker 1: the first time before I was thrown myself into the
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  Speaker 1: waves of creativity and putting this album together, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really sit down in front of a blank piece of
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  Speaker 1: paper and start to write a storyline and came up
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  Speaker 1: with a story. That can be a good guideline, but
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  Speaker 1: that can also be a ball and a chain, because
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  Speaker 1: when you write a story and you stick to a
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  Speaker 1: storyline and you stick to a concept, you know you
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  Speaker 1: have to you have to really think about, Okay, the
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  Speaker 1: third song, I want this to be the third song. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not possible. It's an up temple track. But that's
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  Speaker 1: the passage where the dwarfs are crawling across the forest.
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  Speaker 1: Well I never had dwarfs crawling across forests in my albums,
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  Speaker 1: but you get the point. So you really have to
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  Speaker 1: there's a certain fixtures and certain it's it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a corset, and I didn't want that. I I just
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  Speaker 1: threw myself and thus the title here be Dragons. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry I don't leave your room to ask questions. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just talking away, Okay, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: say this. Here be dragons was a term used to
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  Speaker 1: on historical on on one particular historical map, as a
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  Speaker 1: way to indicate uncharted territory. And and that's I discovered
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  Speaker 1: that expression. I thought, that's great. It was a potential warning,
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  Speaker 1: a potential don't come here, there may lurk danger. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought that sounds like that's that's the way an
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  Speaker 1: adventure should start. That's actually the start of a good story.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, that's my approach here the dragons. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just setting off to the sea, and and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know where I'm going. I just know that it feels good.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to be creative and I want to
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  Speaker 1: I want to discover what I have in me, which music,
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  Speaker 1: which stories I have in me, and what I have
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  Speaker 1: to give and not worry too much about about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a concept concept with with you know, monks and and
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  Speaker 1: and the pope and which is being burned at the
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  Speaker 1: stake and all these kinds of things where when you
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  Speaker 1: write a storyline, you have to deliver something to somebody
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  Speaker 1: else whereas when you when you when you just let
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  Speaker 1: out your feelings, you do it for yourself. It's just
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  Speaker 1: like writing diary and and putting it into beautiful stories.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to do. Now, So now
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  Speaker 1: now I know, now you have a chance to ask
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  Speaker 1: a question. I'm really sorry, the last last Auric of Germany.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, please, it's honestly, it's great. I love when Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the people I interview talk.
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  Speaker 2: So much, it's great. It really fills it in. So
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  Speaker 2: what you're saying is basically as.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that the album really is a whole lot of
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  Speaker 3: shorter stories, not just sticking to one sort of story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's it's it's individual songs, just
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  Speaker 1: like a band would do. Just and the funny thing
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  Speaker 1: is still it is an Avantasia album. Man. To me,
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  Speaker 1: what is so surprising and what makes me feel so
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  Speaker 1: good is that my trust in advance that it will
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  Speaker 1: eventually sound like Avantasia. I just had that face and said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: just keep rolling, just do it, just do it. It
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  Speaker 1: will it's in your DNA. You will make sure, your
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  Speaker 1: subconscious mind will make sure it will be advantage. It
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  Speaker 1: will sound, smell, feel like Avantaser yeah, and the things
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  Speaker 1: that carefree approach and face paid off because I think
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  Speaker 1: some people said it's it's it sounds every second, sounds
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  Speaker 1: like Alvantasia, and it sounds very cohesive, which is really
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  Speaker 1: funny if you consider that it's not a story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 3: And so since the album hasn't the full album hasn't
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  Speaker 3: been released to us yet, have all the songs been
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  Speaker 3: completed though?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course absolutely they have they. I think
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  Speaker 1: we delivered the album. I don't know when, two weeks
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  Speaker 1: after we were supposed to. Probably, I don't know. It
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  Speaker 1: must have been sometime in fall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, awesome. And now, just stepping away from the
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  Speaker 2: music a.
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  Speaker 3: Bit, what's the weirdest or coolest thing a fan has
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  Speaker 3: ever given you?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good I get. I get a lot of
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  Speaker 1: great stuff I get. I get. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: there was ever a weird thing I've never been given,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've never been given a Space shuttle or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. I've never been given a baby.
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  Speaker 4: As some musicians will probably saying, Oh, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if that's politically correct to say that, but I heard
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  Speaker 4: those stories.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really, I don't really know I
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  Speaker 1: get all all kinds of great stuff, you know, I get.
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  Speaker 1: I get. I get some records on my favorite bands
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  Speaker 1: sometimes and sometimes a cool shirt or a cool head
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  Speaker 1: I got, you know, great sunglasses and people people you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't ask for that. You know, people
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  Speaker 1: don't don't do it. Just just enjoy the music. You
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  Speaker 1: don't owe me anything. You don't owe me anything. I
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  Speaker 1: thank you for it, but you don't owe me anything.
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  Speaker 2: That's so sweet.
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  Speaker 3: And outside of music, what are some of your hobbies
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  Speaker 3: or passions that you enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: More music, listening to music and watching football. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's very it's it's very pasthetic, and I'm not fishing
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  Speaker 1: for empathy. But I don't have many hobbies. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have many hobbies I enjoy. You know. I can completely
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  Speaker 1: switch on my my brain when I'm watching a good
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  Speaker 1: football game of Bayern Munich. I'm a huge Buying Munich
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  Speaker 1: supporter and just watched them last night. That's the bags
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  Speaker 1: under my eyes having to get up so early. It's
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  Speaker 1: that's really the only thing. I of course I take walks,
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  Speaker 1: make walks and do some workout, and of course I'd
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  Speaker 1: do so, but I wouldn't go that far to call
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  Speaker 1: it a hobby. It's just the natural thing you do.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to travel, but that's what I do for
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  Speaker 1: a living as well, and sometimes sometimes just a very
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  Speaker 1: very goofy playing playing PlayStation with a good friend of mine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but that's I wouldn't call it a hobby. That's what
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  Speaker 1: you do maybe once a month, So that's not that's
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  Speaker 1: not a hobby. I'm not collecting toy trains. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: you know, becoming an you know like Brian May, you know,
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  Speaker 1: looking at the stars. And I don't do these kinds
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  Speaker 1: of things. I'm just a boring nerd in the studio. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome studio.
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  Speaker 3: No, it just means that you dedicate, clearly, you dedicate
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  Speaker 3: a lot of your life and time to music.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think it means. And that's all right.
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  Speaker 1: You see the glass always have full. Thank you very much,
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  Speaker 1: of course.
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  Speaker 3: Look, the new album features a mix of cinematic soundscapes
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  Speaker 3: and symphonic and elements. How do you balance the grandiose
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  Speaker 3: with the more intimate moments in your music?
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  Speaker 1: Everything I do happens very subconsciously. I don't really think
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  Speaker 1: about a lot of his basic intuition. You know, all
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  Speaker 1: my music is very I think intimate in a way
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  Speaker 1: that you know, I express my thoughts and I think
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  Speaker 1: writing music and playing music for me, especially writing music
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  Speaker 1: and putting it together. The stuff that I've written is
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  Speaker 1: like writing diary. I just that's also when people come
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  Speaker 1: to me and say, oh, please do it a little
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  Speaker 1: more like this, or a little more like that, or
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  Speaker 1: a little fast, a little slower. And you know, some
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  Speaker 1: people always complain. Some people just have great advice, some
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  Speaker 1: people not so great advice. But anyway, people always suggest
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  Speaker 1: do it this way, do it that way. That's not possible. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I can take advice from friends of mine
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  Speaker 1: when they say, oh, why don't you try it with
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  Speaker 1: a different beat here. But what I do is writing diary.
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  Speaker 1: I write diary. And when you keep diary and you
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  Speaker 1: consider your creative process as as keeping diary and keep
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  Speaker 1: it as personal as I do, there is no it's
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  Speaker 1: not it's unbribeable. You can't. You can't do it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at a like a commissioned piece of work. So so
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  Speaker 1: that's what I do. And then when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: presenting it, then this other side of mind comes out
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  Speaker 1: as well, and I have this side, of course, which
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  Speaker 1: is a bit more flamboyant and a bit more slashy,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm acting out that side of my character on stage.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't call myself in private very flamboyant
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  Speaker 1: or very hilarious. I don't know. You know, I try
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  Speaker 1: to see things with a tongue in cheek approach that
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  Speaker 1: makes makes it easier to deal with a lot of
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: challenging situations in life. So I would call myself actually
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  Speaker 1: quite hilarious. So so, but but in general, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's My music is always very personal. And
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  Speaker 1: then the way I I I wrap it up and
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  Speaker 1: I scent it is I do it in a flamboyant way.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just because I have this side in me
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  Speaker 1: as well. And you know, it's we're all we sing
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  Speaker 1: as we're all always the court chests, and we have
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  Speaker 1: that thing in us also as a way to protect ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people say, oh, he's talking so much,
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  Speaker 1: and he thinks he's the greatest in the world. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: when you go on stage and when you're thrown to
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  Speaker 1: the lions, so to speak, as a young singer, and
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  Speaker 1: you have to entertain these people. Of course you have to.
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  Speaker 1: You have to. You have to find a way to
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  Speaker 1: deal with it. And that's how you you know, you
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  Speaker 1: you just breathe in and all the adrenaline. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you have to feel like you're the king of the world.
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  Speaker 1: You have to get this Napoleon kind of stance and
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  Speaker 1: just say, okay, bring him on, bring them on now, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it for you guys back there sitting hiding
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  Speaker 1: behind my little as you know, I'll do it. I'll
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  Speaker 1: you don't bring him on. So that's the way you
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  Speaker 1: approach it. And that's I think in my music as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's I've always been into flamboyant music, but I've always
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  Speaker 1: wanted something underneath it as well. That's the personal thing
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  Speaker 1: for me. So it's it's it's quite balanced that to say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, it does sound very personal and very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: You brought up that fact about artists, you know, having
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  Speaker 3: to really bolster themselves with a personality or a character
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  Speaker 3: that is still true to them, but it protects them,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes with sunglasses, I mean, some people say, like there's
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  Speaker 1: no point toward sunglasses in a room. Yeah, there's no
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  Speaker 1: point to not wear sunglasses and it's never to dark
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to be cool. But but the truth is, it's like
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: a protection. It's like a windshield. It's just like you
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: don't I won't allow you to to point your laser
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: eyes at my eyes, which are the window to my
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: arm fragile, fragile parts of my personality. So I won't
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: do that. Sometimes sometimes it's just in the mood to
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: put them on, and sometimes just in the mood to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: go on, as I said, to present yourself with with
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: a you know, you want to be mail clad so
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to speak. I don't know mail cloud. Does that word exist?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I think yeah, yeah, I think like the chain mail
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: stuff sort of.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be just like like you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: you want to protect yourself with the way of self
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: protection from buoyance is a way of self protection?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I can I can get that. And
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: is there any music that you're listening.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: To at the moment or that you really enjoy?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Let me let me check. Now it's snowing outside. It's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: snowing out, like can you imagine Australia. I'm just looking
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: at the window and that's that's weird. It's not supposed
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: to snow. It's but you know we're about to go
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: on tour in four weeks, it's going to be slippery
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and everything. No music that I'm currently listening to, I'm
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: just watching, I'm just looking staring at a new I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: just purchased a new edition of Bob Catley's Legend Legends
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: album Bob singer Magnum singer of Adamasia apparently, and that
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: just re released one of his vinyls, one of his
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: solo records on vinyl with a beautiful cover artwork of
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Rodney Matthews. And that was the reason why I bought
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: it as a vinyl very expensive. Actually, Bob, I just
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: did that for you. Can you imagine Bob and Rodney
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: for you as well, even though you probably got a
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: flat fee, and therefore, Rotney, you will not really derive
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: anything from me purchasing this piece. But that's the music.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: And I just listened to the album. I bought it
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: also on disc, and I bought one copy for a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: friend of mine as well, So I bought three copies
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of the of an Old Bob Ketley. Currently. That's what
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I listened to. I just listened to the album of Foreigner,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that where the opening track is and tooth and nail,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: but I forgot the I stopped at with names. These days,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm turning forty eight, well in ten months, but still
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: my brain is like eighty five.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry, I'm not near that. But my brain
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: is not very good either, don't worry.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes me, That makes me feel better. So yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I've been listening to it brief words Foreigner and some
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of that stuff, Foreigner, Bob Catley and you know, I'm
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's mainly when I listen to music in private, it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's hardly it's hardly speed metal,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: or it's it's more a little more, you know, according
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to my age, my biblical my biblical age.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: If you could pick one track from the new album,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: he be dragons, say you're most proud of?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Which would it be?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And why, oh, I'm proud of all of them. They're
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: all like children of mine. You have to know, it's
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: like when the music puts when an artist puts out
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: new music, every track is like my own child, and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you cannot pick one over the you know, that's that's bullshit.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you just put put a song there and say
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: it's not bad, but no. But in that case, I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: really I'm really proud of everything I do. I have
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: this work ethic to not release something that I'm not
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: happy with because I'm never under the gun in terms
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of a release date or a deadline. I mean, of course,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: at a certain point you have a deadline, but I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: only agree to a deadline once I know that I'll
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: be happy by that time, and when I have a song,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: material together and everything. So I could pick any song.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I think I could pick creep Show because it's so
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: different to all the other tracks. It's a little more
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: uplifting and a little more cheerful, and a little more
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: playful and a little more you know, some people, some
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of the die hard hardcore gatekeepers of true power metal,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: we're a bit pissed off. And I like it when
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: people get a little pissed off because that generates controversity,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and controversity generates, you know, it tickles the algorithm of
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the social media platforms, which is a real it's a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: real bad thing though, because that's why we have so
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: much hate. I believe in our society. If that, if
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I can work that in my favor, well who am
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I to get in the way of that. I mean,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I can't change the world. So you know, there was
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: controversity and some people were really really angry about how
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: can he put out a song that sounds like ed
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Guy and put it on an Avantasier record and not
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: take this whole grandiose oprah thing not seriously anymore? Can
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: he really do that? Yes, yes he can.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: No, I'm glad you're so open to it, you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: open to the changing way of the world as well
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: social media.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Like you said, we could all just hate it, which
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: we all do, but.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: You know, we could all just try and pretend it's
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: not happening and see where that takes us. But you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I think it's better to embrace it as much as
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: we can.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I wrote a song about it. Actually, it's called Fantastmicgorian's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: about something entirely different on the surface. On the surface,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it's a song about the the you know, those old
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: magic illusions missed theaters of the twenties and also the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: ones that go back to the eighteenth eighteen hundred I think, uh,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the eighteenth century, eighteen hundred seventeen hundred something. You know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: those illusion shows where they where they set up you
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: know whether they presented tricks based on light illusions to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: scare spectators and like an entertainment thing, you know, the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Fantasmagoria show and everybody, oh, there's a ghost. No, it's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: just light illusion and stuff like that, and everybody knew
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: those were illusions, but everybody kept looking and they knew
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that they knew it well, and they kept looking. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I spoke about how it scares you and how it
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: does something to your subconscious mind. And I sometimes have
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the feeling that you know, all the all the great
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: development and you know, and progress that we are presented with,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's all so all to us as it's it makes
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: our lives easier and better. And we're all spending counters
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: hours every day staring at phones. You know. I don't
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: want to sound like a like an old you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: like like my grandfather, but I probably do so. But
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: so what right is right and wrong is wrong? I
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: believe it's it's not good for us to just, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: spend eight hours in front of a phone, you know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: dying for attention, dying for answers, you know, spreading hate, sewing,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: sewing you know, controversial you know, controversity by attacking people
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: other people and you know, trying to tickle them, so
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: they respond back and you're an idiot. No, you're an idiot.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: And we know it's not good for us, and still
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: we have to go there and not not we I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: mean I don't do it. I do it for my job,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: but some people and they have to do it, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you stare. You know, it's bullshit, and you surround yourself
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: with nagative and with bad news also, and and it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and you know that you're aware that it's not good
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: for you, but still people keep doing it in a
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: in a you know, in a way that is way
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: too much. And there was a saying of niets you,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: which is, if you stare into the abyss for too long,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: it's going to stare right back into you. And I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: believe that's that's that's true. So so that I think
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Fantastic Gloria in a way is about exactly that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And definitely it's it's that idea I guess as.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Well of not being able to look away, not to
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you know, you're addicted to it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: You have to keep looking. Yeah, yeah, it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Makes you feel you know, it's it's not good for me,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but I have to. But I have to, but I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: have to because it's exactly that's what it is. And
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: at a certain point, you you know, it's it's just yeah,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's not good for you. You know, ads,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: most of what I read it's just bullshit. I shouldn't care.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Something sticks, yes, And that's something will constant dripping wears
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the stone and will wear the stone in your subconscious mind.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And that's how the phantasmagoria show presenting you with shocking
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: images that you cannot comprehend. You know it's all artificial,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: but you and you know you shouldn't worry, but subconsciously
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you will. It's like watching if you're watching gore horror
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: movies all your life. Of course you say it's just bullshit,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: but somehow it will do something. It will affect you.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I don't say that you will become a mass murderer,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: but it will affect your subconscious mind.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely, Toby. I could talk to you forever.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today. I wish
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it was longer.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you. It was a great conversation.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I hope I didn't I didn't I didn't ruin asking you.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't prevent you from asking too many questions,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: but just talking away. Thank you, have a good evening
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and cheers too. Down under Things