Latest / Drench Line Podcast / Show Sheep and Goat Question & Answer Session (Part 2)
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- DL Ep 11 QA pt 2 === [00:00:00] Hey, everyone. Welcome back to The Drench Line. I'm Sam Silvers, and I have Logan Newsom here with me, and we are grateful that you are coming back to join us. Uh, if you haven't subscribed yet, we encourage you to do that. find the Drench Line podcast on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and all the social platforms. big day here on the Drench Line podcast. Yeah, yeah. We're, uh, live in San Antonio, Texas. just got done with... Go ahead and tell us, t- tell the folks where we, where we've been spending the past two and a half hours. Two and a half hours interview with Dr. Brian Farris, San Antonio Livestock Show and Rodeo competitive director. he gave us... We got front row parking passes- Yep ... um, free entries- Yep ... and lifetime rodeo passes, right? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I think that kind of nails it all. Gave it all to us. Yeah. Not really. We all know how that goes. We did not get any of those things, but we did have, uh- Premium pass, premium pass for life. Yeah, we have, uh, don't bother putting in your, um, premium passes into [00:01:00] the randomized drawing because we have already, we snatched them. We saw them at the, we saw them all sitting on the counter, so we just thought we'd go ahead and grab them. Yeah. Um- That's a joke. That's a joke, listeners. That is 100% a joke. 100% a joke. We, we, we know that some of you folks take things super-duper serious. Oh. Uh, but we did have a great dialogue, great conversation. Great content. Lots of insights. Uh, you know, agree to disagree on some stuff, agreed on a lot of stuff. Um, felt good about it whenever we left. Yep. Uh, yeah. No, it was, it was good. It was a good, good, good day, and now we decided to, um, sit here riverside, uh, at the River Walk, answer a few Q and A's. See what some folks got. Yeah. Um, so be sure to check out episode 10, I think it's what it's gonna be. Um, it's gonna be a lengthy one, but it's gonna be a good one. Um, featuring Dr. Brian Farris, executive director of the Livestock Show at the San Antonio Livestock Show and Rodeo. Um, so good content there. So this is a follow-up to our episode nine. We, we didn't get through all the [00:02:00] questions last time, um, so we're gonna try to answer some more of those. Thank y'all again for, for, um, submitting all those questions. We appreciate them, and we're trying to get through all of them, but it's, it's been, it's been a lot. So, um, with that said, uh, we're gonna get into some of these, um, and w- kind of pick up where we left off on episide, episode nine. Um- I don't remember exactly where we left off, but you know, I think the one thing that, you know, folks listening, uh, keep in mind We're 1st of August. We're getting back, you know, kids are going back to school. Um, you know, think about where we're at within the program, so we're probably gonna answer some questions again, you know, that, uh, you might have taken care of or that might feel like, you know, are a little bit behind. Um, some of you guys, if you're just now getting back to school and you are putting sheep and goats on feed, you know, start from the beginning. Uh, reach out and listen to them. There has been a handful of questions that have been asked, um, that we covered in great detail in some of the episodes, so [00:03:00] I would encourage you to hop on there and take a listen as opposed to sending in a question. Yeah, absolutely. So first question, um, it's kinda in the subject line of showmanship and training, uh, and this question comes from Donna Jo, "How can smaller exhibitors brace bigger lambs without getting pushed around?" Wanna take a stab at that one there, Logan? Yeah. Um, yeah, that's tough, and, uh, you know, we've all been there, and, you know, both of us, I guess, you know, that probably had, you know, young boys that started and then followed that with young girls that started. Um, I would say the biggest thing, you know, to, to take away from it is don't get frustrated. It, it, it's a, it's a long process. Um, Jo's going into fifth grade, we're... She's been, you know, working with her state fair sheep all summer, and we're still trying to work out some of the stuff. Yeah. At the end of the day, she weighs 65 pounds or whatever, and, you know, that sheep's gonna show at 130, so I mean, there, there's a [00:04:00] lot there. we obviously spend a lot of time with them at home. Um, we get those sheep and th- those kids very familiar with each other. We try to do a lot of stuff outside of the pen, outside of the barn, walking them down the road, getting them in the yard, you know, some stuff like that, just to make those sheep or goats feel more comfortable with that exhibitor. And so I think that probably can go a long ways just in terms of getting, you know, some of the basics kinda lined out, the halter breaking, the hand walking, the setting them up. I also think, and, and it's very tricky, I think at the end of the day, and I think we talked about it probably on one of the early episodes whenever we were probably hitting on selection, you gotta buy some of those sheep that are fitting for that kid. Yeah. You know? And I mean, let's be honest, guys, if you're buying 175 pound black or a black face sheep that's gonna be 175 when it's all said and done, and you got a third grade kid that weighs 60 pounds You done messed up Well, and, you know, a- and as [00:05:00] long as I've been doing this, I, I... Still sticks in my mind, I, I was a terrible dad, Shep's first year, you know? And poor Shep, he's built like me. He's just not gonna be a big fella. That's just the way it is. So you can imagine what he, what he looked like when he was nine. Now he's, he's gained a little muscle and kinda stoutened up a little bit. But his first year at San Angelo, uh, he had Eddie, a sheep we raised, and, uh, he was 181 pounds when we left the house. Um, he was second in the heavyweight class that year, um, but he got it done. And it, it, it comes down to practice, practice- Lots, lots of practice ... practice. Yeah. Getting them as head broke as possible, and I, I think that's what you need to do. Yeah, and you know, we, we use bungees at the house. We have... We don't have, uh, necessarily like the, the, the sharp shooter. Uh, we have what we call kind of a poor man's box that's, you know, similar concept. But just anything I think you can do to get those sheep used to, like Sam said, head up, nose straight, get them used to kinda standing in some of those positions for long periods of time. And then, you know, getting [00:06:00] the sheep and the kid kinda really, really familiar with them. You know, the one thing that I always kinda reiterates, like, with our, our kids or families back home is, or, you know, in, in general: stock showing's hard, don't make it harder. Um, don't... If you're a little kid, don't try to reach over the top of those things and fix their show side back leg or, you know, try to bounce them if they weigh 160 pounds and you weigh 60. Like, you gotta kinda beat them at their own game a little bit. Um, use pressure points, lead those sheep into place, reach back and make non-show side back leg match show side back leg. You know, just any of those kind of things. Reach down and, you know, adjust their front feet with your hands as opposed to, um, as opposed to, you know, trying to bounce them into place. And the one thing I can tell you, you can look across the ring, and we've all seen it, there's plenty of little kids that can get it done. Yeah. So again, kinda, kinda hitting back on what Sam said, a lot of practice, a lot of time spent at home, try to limit the frustration on all parties, and I bet before it's all said and done you'll be okay. But we do [00:07:00] try to buy sheep that we feel like will be conducive to that showman. Sure. You know, if you got a little kid that's just starting out, don't buy him a big black. Get him maybe a smaller breed sheep. Get him a lightweight black face sheep, something that just looks like it- Southdown ... Southdown. I mean, if you really are a glutton for punishment. But yeah, try to, try to do something to kinda- I told- ... you know, hedge a little bit ... I told Shep and Staton when they were first starting out, "Sometimes good is good enough." Sure. Absolutely. You know what? That, that back leg's good enough. Don't overthink it. Don't try to re- Let go of the sheep trying to set a back leg. Good- That- ... good's good enough ... yeah, set a back leg one more inch and risk something else going wrong. Yep, yep. Okay. That's, that's a good take. S- so Jace, uh, wanted to ask us, "What's the best exercises for building muscle?" Uh, bench press or- Squats ... squats, leg press, bench press, curls. Curls. Katie says power clean, or I think that's the mo- motion that she was making. Oh, he wants to know about his, his sheep and his goat project. All right, Jase. [00:08:00] Oh, yeah, yeah. Gotcha, gotcha. well, there's a lot of different ways to go about it. Um, we always try to tell families that we utilize a variety of things, a- and, and the first thing being a track and a track dog, and the second thing being a treadmill, a good sheep treadmill. Yep. Um- One of those- I'm- uh- One of those from the- ... Ty Allen's Yeah, one of them Ty Allen's, one of them ones from that- Yeah ... cat in Elk City. Mm-hmm. Yep. Uh, and, and, and- Not the one from your local garage sale. No, no. It's not the same. Buy a good one. You'll have it forever. You'll sell it for probably what you got into it. Yeah. There's- Resale value on those are really good. Yeah. Note to self or, or, or, you know, tidbit for, for the day. But as you're talking about exercise, I fully understand also if you're a first-year family and you're just getting started, it, it... You might not be able to buy a new track dog, build a track, buy a new treadmill, you know, and, and, and the third thing I would say was, it, that can be beneficial is a walker. A lot of families might not be able to do all that at once. It's perfectly understandable. I get it. [00:09:00] Um, I always say that start off with a treadmill. Like, I think that's a good way for beginners to really get started. we utilize all three of those. We don't utilize, if I'm being completely honest, our walker very much. Um, but we utilize our track and our tre- and our treadmill when it's go time six to seven days a week. Yep. Um, unless we've got one... As long as everything's- Now- ... in correct shape, we, we take Sundays off. Y- you might clarify when it's go time. Go... Yeah. You're gonna need fat and protein to get there. For sure, yeah. So we're not doing that 4th of July. That go time is, is not 4th of July. Um, but if we're within 90 days of the show, if, you know, we're Thanksgiving on, I mean, and we really feel like we've got a good idea on where that sheep is targeted, where he's at from a condition standpoint, what we wanna do, we're probably tracking two to three days a week, and then we're treadmilling three days a week. Yeah. And I mean, [00:10:00] I think that's probably... And I don't care if you're talking sheep or goats, um, I think that's probably a very, very good rule of thumb. You know, we'll have some that we might just track two days. We might have some that we track light. We have light tracking. We have heavy tracking, you know, what- whatever that looks like, obviously all very sheep, uh, and individual specific. And then we'll do treadmill backwards, treadmill forward, you know, what- whatever that looks like. But when we're within, you know, that target window of, of 60 to 90 days out, we know where we're headed. We know where we wanna get that thing to. We're in... I mean, we're in, you know, kinda go mode. Um, that's what we're gonna be doing. Yep. Good. A- and that, that's same thing we do there. Uh, there's not much more that I can add to that. S- we, we do the same protocol a- a- as you. Um- I do do, I do do, like, incline bench press while I'm treadmilling. You do? Yeah. No, I don't think you do. Yeah. How do you think this b- this body wasn't built off milk? I don't know. I, uh, nah. That's a good way to kill time if, uh- I'm just gonna go on to Claire's question. Okay. I don't wanna harp on you too d- too [00:11:00] much in this heat. Um, sorry. We're, y- we got homeless people in the background. There's a lot going on. Hey, there's a lot going on. We're on the river walk in San Antonio. Dogs, like some kind of breeds of dogs I've never seen in my life. Yeah. Homeless people. Walking. Um- That lady's got more knapsacks and trashcans- Stuff you don't see in Junction, in Olton, Texas. Mm-hmm. Um, Claire wants to know, "How often should you change leg wraps?" That's a good question, Claire. Um, typically, we will change leg wraps, uh, once a week. That's kinda what we do. Uh, we're fortunate, we have a, we have a laundry service, a cleaners in town, and, and we take all of our bulk laundry in there, the leg wraps and, and blankets. Um- I bet they hate y'all. No, they really don't. They love us. They, they charge us by the pound. Your cleaners may do this. You might need to check into it. And, and they'll wash, dry, and fold it by the pound. They just charge you so much by pound. Do they roll your leg wraps? They, they roll our leg wraps for us. You're full of it. Yeah. Um- Dude, I'm not telling Jo about this. She would be all up- she would pay for it out of her own money. Yeah, yeah. A- and it's, it's relatively [00:12:00] inexpensive. Um, but typically right now we're doing legs once a week, you know? And we talked about this in some of our earlier episodes. You know, some of y'all, depending on your climate and where you're at, you may need to do legs more than that. We do legs once a week. Um, and we'll change those leg wraps once a week. Now, um, i- if they get nasty for some reason, maybe a rain comes through, they get wet, or, um, we have a Neff sheep right now. For some reason, he's too lazy to stand up when he pees, so he just pees laying down, and he pees all over his leg wraps and his hocks, and it's disgusting. I don't know why he does that, but we have to change those out pretty frequently. So I would say at a minimum, change those things once a week. Yeah. Yeah, we don't have a... Uh, we have a laundry service in town, but I've always been t- I'm... I usually try to wash my blankets, like, late at night so that they won't know who I am, and filling up their- Yeah ... facilities with all the sheep and goat trash and urine or whatever. But, um, we wash, we have a [00:13:00] washer and dryer in the barn, and that's, that's why I say Jo would love to know about this laundry service you speak of because that's usually her job. Whenever we're doing legs, she's changing out, putting another set in the dryer. And, uh, yeah, that's what we do. We, we change 'em out whenever we do legs. Okay. Brad wants to know, "How do you stop a sheep from constantly shaking its head while driving?" Well, Brad, if you're at home and you're not in the ring and he's constantly shaking his head, I would say slap the shit out of him. Yeah. Right across the face. It's okay. That's just the way it is. Now, I don't do it in the ring in front of God and everybody, but at home, that's how we teach ours. And I'm just being honest, this is raw and real. If they're shaking their head while we're driving them, somebody's slapping them in the face and telling them, "Quit it. Stop." Yep. Fact. Agree. You agree with that? Okay, next question. Carry on. That's pretty easy. Brittany: "Can a market wether be raised by itself, or does it need a buddy?" Ooh, that's a pretty good question. Yeah. Well, I'm a... We're a salesman, so they always need buddies. They always need [00:14:00] buddies. No, seriously, they... I- in my opinion, no, they do not need to be raised by their self. They're- they're flock animals. They're herd animals. Um, they need a buddy. I think we talked about this in one of those- Mm-hmm you know, and i- whoever you got your sheep from, goat from, whatever that looks like, and if... And even if you're in a, let's say you're in a, like, a school setting, school farm, um, and maybe you're the first one to get it, you know, your project, take one home. Take a buddy sheep home. And then if you get, you know, some other families that are buy- picking up their sheep or their goats or their projects later, and then the barn starts to fill up and you wanna take it back, everybody's gonna be cool with that. There's not gonna be any breeder that aren't, that isn't gonna be 100% okay with, number one, you taking a sheep off their feed bill for 30 to 60 days, and- and number two, making sure that that animal that you got from them has a good transition. So take one home, get a little dwarf ewe lamb. Yep. Get a sorry old wether that's gonna go to the sale barn. We- we- we- we hit on it and we talked about [00:15:00] it a little bit, but they, they'll always do better, and I would say especially whenever you've taken them first, you know- Yeah ... into that new s- situation, I would say. And- and a lot of, lot of good breeders will, if you ask them, they're- they're willing to help. I know we do it. I- I'll even ask everybody that comes and picks a lamb up, "Hey, do you have a buddy at home?" "No, we don't." "Here, take this dwarf ewe lamb." You know, maybe your young- maybe they have a younger sibling that they're, they like leading around and making a pet out of it. Uh, bring it back when you're done, or haul it to the sale barn and send me the check later. Yeah. Yeah. But- No, it's- We'll do that a lot ... there, there isn't anybody that's, uh, that's worth their salt that's not gonna send you something or, you know, try to make that transition and make that experience better for you. Sure. Sean. Sean wants to know, can you walk us through a Texas timeline so those of us in the Midwest can adjust it for our own show season? That's pretty tough. Yeah, really is. And, and I think the biggest thing is, you know, you obviously have... And I think you can even see this, it's, it's almost, it's two totally different types of sheep. It's [00:16:00] two totally different feeding plans and programs and kinda what, you know, the goal trying to be. We're ending at, you know, somewhere between end of January and the first part, but f- or let's say to the middle part of March by the time we get through Houston and Austin, and, you know, those guys are obviously hitting late summer fairs. Um, and you know, as fall borns have become more and more relevant, I think they're, you know, the age of the sheep that they're showing in the Midwest has obviously, you know, gotten a little bit closer to what, what we're seeing and, you know, maybe what we're accustomed to. But I think at the same time, those guys are in such push mode from day one. Yeah. Like, they are trying to get them big enough, trying to get them fleshing enough, trying to get them to the point that they can be, you know, big enough or mature enough to win. In Texas, we probably are more along the lines of we're in push mode, and then we kinda might cruise and coast for a little while, and then we might push a little bit. Our feeding curve's just so much longer. I mean, we've [00:17:00] got guys- And- ... that'll take a January to, you know- And I think- ... seventh tone or whatever ... I think we can take chances on some sheep that maybe Midwesterners can't, right? Can, yep. Because we have a longer feeding period. Um, we can fumble a little bit, if you will. You know, if something goes wrong, something gets sick- Yeah ... you know, we, we can kinda get them back right and get them there where they need to be, whereas if you're in the Midwest, I mean, you, you gotta be on the gas from the word go. Yeah. And you can't bobble or mess up too much because your feeding window is so short. Those things have a hiccup, you know, and they turn into 110-pounder that somebody calls and sends to Texas. Yeah. I mean, that's the reality. It just... Yeah, that's a... It, it is. I, I'd say it's, it's two totally different programs. It's two totally different sheep. N- you know, end point goals in the game are all still the same, I would say, but it's just, it's just very, very different in terms of what has to happen for one to get big enough for Ohio State Fair at the end of July, and the luxury we have of that longer feeding curve, getting into some cooler climate, you know, months, letting those things really kinda take off and catch a gear. Just [00:18:00] all of it. Um, yeah. I'm not envious of the Midwesterners. No. I don't think the Midwesterners are pr- are probably envious of, of how long we have sheep on feed. Um, just two totally different games. Yep. And it's tough. Good, great question, Shawna. I hope we could help you out a little bit there, but, uh, it... You're in a tough situation. I, I would say, you know, you're gonna need to step on the gas on them things as fast as you can, and, uh, get them chubby as quick as you can, and get protein in them, and try to lean them up, and exercise them as quick as you can. Yep. Um, so there's some questions that we're saving. Now, there were some, several questions that we, that we felt like deserve an entire episode a- and we wanna kinda tease you a little bit with some of those, but, uh, breaking into the Texas sheep, sheep market as a Midwest breeder. Plenty of opportunities. Yep. Yep. Building relationships with traders Mm. We felt like that could be a whole episode. Yeah yeah. Um, fake sale pictures and evaluating livestock online. Two episodes. Yep, two, maybe 10. [00:19:00] Yeah, we could talk about that all day. Judging trends and hiring judges, that's probably a whole season right there. Uh, AI breeding, we are, uh, we wanna do a wh- a whole episode on that. We're working on that, um, but, you know, those guys that, that we wanna get on here are in the thralls of it right now, and they're, they're not gonna have a break. You know, I talked to Matt the other day. He hasn't been home in, I don't know, two months- Yeah ... two and a half months. That, uh, you know, we did obviously whenever we were in Corpus, you know, kinda hit on, you know, whenever we were talking about hot bucks and, you know, the w- the st- the stuff that everybody's kinda chasing and kinda, you know, a, I guess, a little bit of a brief insight into what each one of us were doing within, you know, our own programs in terms of flushing and AI-ing and IVF, but that is, uh, that is a, I mean, obviously can go into an entire episode 'cause that's a topic and, and, um, you know, it's a, it's an issue that all of us are trying to be better at, trying to be more [00:20:00] efficient at, trying to have more success. You know, whenever you buy a jump of semen at, you know, somewhere between five and $7,500, like, you wanna be good at it, and so that is one thing that I am humbled enough to admit that I'm like, "Hey, if you got something that's working, I'm not afraid to try it" because anytime I can get a handful of more ewe's bred or we can have a little more success or we can bump that percentage up on conception from, you know, 65 to potentially 75 or whatever, um, we'll always take any sort of advice we can. So- That's right ... that's, that's, that's big in the game right now. AI-ing is, is, uh, it is the play. And, and lastly, uh, more detailed health and doctoring discussions, we felt like maybe we can make a full episode out, out of that. So just know that, uh, we're looking into those as, as full episodes and, and stay tuned with us. Um, stay tuned with us on those to see those coming out. Okay. Anything else that you wanna add in? Anything that you're seeing? What about some... What about stuff that's going on at [00:21:00] Silver's? Have you started making cuts yet? Uh, y- yeah. I started making some cuts. I'm kinda... I- it's coming. I would say by, by September, we're gonna, we're gonna cut a few out of the barn. Yeah, we did some tail jobs last week. Kinda wanna get them healed up, see what they're doing, make sure we're not making any mistakes there before we cut something loose. Um, but yeah, we are. What about you? Making some cuts? Oh, I went to the Medina Meltdown and got my ass whipped by you. I cut everything. I just figured I'd start over. Logan's new name is Scratch, by the way, and not 'cause he's a scratch golfer. It's because he scratched show B. He was scared of me. I got, I got throttled on so bad- ... I just said, "Punt, punt." I, I, I know that sometimes, you know, whenever you watch some of them football teams, you see whenever they're like kind of right there by the 45 and you've, you really want them to go for it, but then, uh, you see like, you see that punter run out and you're like, "Yep, that's probably the good move. That's the good play." Now, in Logan's defense, if there's one human [00:22:00] being on this earth that scares me, w- what I found out on Logan is, is when you do that to him once, he is not gonna let that happen to himself twice. We're just- So next time he comes out, he's gonna have all the claws out and the weapons out. Oh, we're, we're- Is that, that looked like Brisco Black over there ... That's exactly what I thought, Brisco Black walking down the... I, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm sure Catherine's at home and Brisco and Colton are probably school shopping or something today. Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, so you know, that's probably... I was just, I was curious kinda. We've, we've, we've talked in, you know, the last month, 45 days I guess with episodes, have been a little off of our normal train of, you know, the things that are happening at home. But, um- It's been hot. Hot. Uh, we finally, summer all of a sudden decided to show up, so, you know, one of the main things, we're trying to keep stuff cool. We're rough shearing stuff. We're trying to keep things healthy, keep them growing, uh, trying to combat any sort of parasite pressure, coccidiosis, anything that kind of sometimes has a chance to rear its head whenever... You know, you kind of get some of [00:23:00] that, whether you want to call it heat stress or- or whatever respiratory stuff. Yeah, lungs. I mean, just- just any of it. Um, it's the time of the year that, man, it can, it can really show up, so I would encourage you guys that are listening to- to make sure you're on top of that. It's something that can be mitigated and managed if you are punctual with it. You know, I think, I'm not gonna say easily, but it's- it's definitely something that can, um, that can be taken care of. But, uh, screw worm deal kind of seems like it's- Yeah, I think it's... You know, I haven't heard anything lately on it. Um, I- I- I want to say that maybe the sterile flies are doing their job. Maybe some- they must be, yeah. Maybe the producers are staying vigilant. Um, n- not a lot on it lately. Uh, I think the latest thing, and maybe we need to do episode on it, is, um, there was a confirmed scrapie case up in maybe Utah. Somewhere, yeah. Um, Oregon or Utah, I don't know where it was at, but you know, I would assume that there's gonna be something come out. Um, they're probably gonna start watching a little harder on this, uh, codon stuff now. Yep. Um, so you know, that's [00:24:00] something to- to keep on the cusp of or in the back of your mind there. Yep. Um, yeah, no, for sure. That's, uh, seems like some of that stuff, I'm- I'm not gonna say by any means that it has been, you know, removed or regulated or whatever you want to call it, but it does seem like some- some things might be working. Some actions that have been put in place, uh, might actually be helping. So, um, we're exercising hard. Yeah. I mean, we're, uh, you know, especially, uh, you know, without question those- those fall fair, state fair age deals, I mean, those things are in- in go mode. Um, we're exercising, we're pushing hard. But even those ones that, man, we got our San Antone sheep, our Houston sheep, those options, we got them broke to the track. Uh, I'd say we're fairly broke to the treadmill. Um, we kind of got those things whether they, you know, necessarily need to be on an intense regimen yet or not. We got some stuff going, 'cause like everybody, uh, school's starting back, days are gonna get shorter, time's limited, uh, so we're trying to knock out some of that stuff that, uh, that we, that we can get while we still got some- some free barn help around. And then, um, I guess we'll kind of get ready for a, for a handful of these [00:25:00] fall fairs. We got a few of these shows coming up. Sheep aren't- Are y'all going to, are y'all going anywhere? Y- Uh, I don't know. Talk to- Oh, you'll probably find, like, what, like you usually go to one of them 12-head jackpots about this time of year and win you some stuff and pick on folks. N- You went to the same jackpot I went to ... not really, but, uh, you are gonna probably go... Are you gonna go try to win you some fishing gear at that, uh- Deal next weekend? Turkey Farm? Yeah Yeah, Turkey Farm And, uh, well, the other show, the B show pays 1,000 bucks to win it. Like, yeah, so we'll probably use over to Fredericksburg, try our luck at that deal Uh, West Texas Fair, that's usually probably our... Boomtown, those guys out in Andrews do a good job of, of being very, very supportive of, uh, the kids and, and that, and that program out there. So yeah, we got some... You got, yeah, uh, you got options. That's what I'd tell you guys. If you are out there and you have not gotten your sheep in the ring yet, you better get after it- Yep um, because that is one thing, and there's a few of them, and I can say that with somebody that, that has a few that need to get in the ring, but it's, it's time to do that. So, um, [00:26:00] okay, we'll wrap it up. We have sweated out all of our sins here on the River Walk. I'm done. And, um, it's hot, it's humid. Uh, thank you, guys, for the questions. 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