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Episode 15: The Everchosen · The Bad Moon's Orbit

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  Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Bad
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  Moon's Orbit. I am, as always, your twin
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  tailed comet Dalton Montgomery. And I'm Darren Smart and
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  seagulls can detect food up to three miles away.
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  We are excited to welcome you back to what will be our
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  concluding episode talking about the Age of Chaos, where we're
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  looking to see change coming up here after some big events this
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  episode. So I hope you're in for a bit of
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  a ride. But before we get into that
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  Darian, do you have a games thing that you would like to
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  talk about? Yeah, in.
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  The episode. Yeah, I do.
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  I have mentioned Disney or Arcana in the past.
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  So this is that adjacent where I've just decided to formally
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  give in to the fact that, yeah, I'm just going to collect these
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  cards. But the trick was how how to
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  collect the cards? What's the best way to do it?
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  And I was like, do I get a bunch of sleeves?
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  Do I get the boxes? And then I thought, well, no,
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  because I don't want to play the game.
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  I have no interest in learning how to play the game.
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  That's just not, that's not why I'm doing this.
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  I just want to look at the pretty cards.
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  So the conclude the solution is clearly I need to store them in
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  a way that makes it most easy to see all the pretty cards.
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  So I took a page from our friend Lucy who has tons of Pokémon
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  cards and she does not play the card game.
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  So she has just binders that she organizes them all in and is
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  actively currently reorganizing them and sorting them based on
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  each card generation. It's a massive project she is
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  elected to undertake. So I just went out and brought
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  like a pretty binder and some card sleeves and that's how I'm
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  organizing him just based on I'm just organizing him by movie
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  property and then in order of what cards I like to the best.
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  Tell ya, I love that I've seen Lucy's Pokémon card collection.
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  It is awe inspiring. It is.
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  Massive. Yes.
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  Absolutely a library of Pokémon card binders.
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  Absolutely. What about you, Dalton?
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  Yeah, I'm a pull. Kind of a weird one.
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  I have been very much enjoying lately a video game called
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  Shapes. Specifically Shapes 2, which is
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  one of those games that I have been completely consumed by, but
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  that I cannot recommend to everybody.
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  It. Is a factory building game.
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  So you have like big deposits of like circles on the map and you
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  build little mining rigs and pull circles up from the the
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  crust or whatever. And then you put them on
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  conveyor belts and you have to deliver like maybe you have to
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  deliver a bunch of semicircles, so you got to run them through
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  machines that cut them in half and deliver them to the thing.
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  Or you have to deliver a bunch of red semicircles and blue
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  semicircles. So you cut them in half and then
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  you divert them and you run them through things that paint them
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  the right color. And it goes all the way up to
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  where you're delivering like a shape that's like 1/4 of a
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  square and part of a diamond and all different colors and it's
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  stacked on top of a different shape.
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  That's all. And you just get this huge
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  labyrinthian series of conveyor belts and machines, and it's
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  great if you're into that. If you're into that it.
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  Probably looks insane if you're not, but I've quite enjoyed it.
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  Shout out to a game I really liked.
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  Yeah, really liking. That's good, yeah.
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  But away from mechanics, we are going to be talking about, like
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  I said, the kind of big finale regarding the age of chaos.
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  So a little bit of a catch up if it's been a second between
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  hearing episodes with us or recording episodes.
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  Yeah. Or recording episodes, Yeah,
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  just to peek by the curtain. We talked about how chaos got
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  into the world. We talked about each of the
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  chaos gods kind of finding their foothold Corn inspiring violence
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  in actually with the the Red Feast and Corgos Cole Zinch
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  playing off of the ambition of the Carradron, the sky pirate
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  dwarf folks. Capitalists.
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  Yeah, the capitalist dwarf. Folks who killed a magnetic
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  Griffin? Yeah, killed the lode.
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  Griffin spun the entire realm of shaman in on itself like a
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  spiral as the Magnesis went crazy.
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  Poor poor L'Oreal in the realm of life, overwhelmed by Nergal,
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  also a God of life as her realm was subsumed to disease.
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  And then our fave Slunesh, still still trapped between Ishinulgu,
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  but their demons pouring into the realms in search of them or
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  to usurp them. And the great Horned Rat, always
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  so easily forgotten, his Scaven burrowing through the realms
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  from Scaven blight, now suspended in the sky.
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  Fucking wild, right? In the sky.
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  Yeah. We love those crazy rats.
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  So all of this happened like the chaos.
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  Chaos incursions that happened across the realms happen pretty
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  quickly, one after the other. They're not all like the exact
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  same time, but when Chaos strikes, it tends to strike
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  hard. The whispers have been there for
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  a long time. This is the Prestige where
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  everything comes together, which means that the time between the
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  first inklings of like, oh, chaos is here.
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  It's a problem. We need to push back against it.
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  And actually getting mobilized where everyone can like respond
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  and do their thing is pretty short time frame.
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  So things go bad for a little bit.
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  We don't have exact timelines on all the stuff in the Age of
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  Myth, but things go bad for a little bit before Sigmar
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  specifically, who has done his job.
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  Yeah, it does sound like some Well, listen, listen, he's done
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  one of his jobs, one of his jobs, his job of this is my
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  world and I'm going to make sure that it's all good.
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  Great. OK, Chaos didn't get in there.
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  But the other job that you took upon yourself was like, I'm
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  going to get a team together, right.
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  But no one's answering and use. Texts.
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  No, he put a lot of faith in the self guidedness of his peers and
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  instead a lot of them pulled the chaos, got into the world and
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  chained it up or or set about conquering the realm of death.
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  Thanks Nagash. Thanks Nagash.
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  Nagash, who really definitely definitely could have just
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  probably body slam Nergal and would have been just done if he
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  had answered his goddamn cell phone.
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  We still don't know what's up with Nagash.
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  We're going to maybe find out what's up with Nagash during
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  this time period in this episode.
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  I'm sure it'll be a totally justified reason why he didn't
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  answer anybody's goddamn calls. I'm sure.
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  But before we so Sigmar is preparing for war.
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  He has been prepared for war. He has fostered kind of a
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  warrior culture amongst a lot of the native peoples of Azir.
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  Not intensely like, but definitely OK.
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  Some of you need to be prepped and ready and this will be like
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  a multi generational project that when I call you to war,
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  we're going to fight chaos. So he gets all those people
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  together, marches them on the Ignis Gate, which is the realm
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  gate that connects Azure to the Great Parch.
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  And actually, before we get into that, I want to talk a little
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  bit about something that hasn't come up very much yet.
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  While we're discussing the realms, people who are already
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  familiar with the setting might think it odd that it hasn't come
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  up until now, but it's not really important until now, so
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  we're going to mention it now. OK, OK.
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  What is it? So when we're talking about
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  travel between the realms, realm gates are the main way people
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  travel between the realms. There are some exceptions.
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  Carodron still travel by realm gate, but they've actually found
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  like naturally occurring realm gates, like way up in the clouds
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  that they fly their ships through.
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  So they don't use the main realm gates, which is part of why
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  they've been able to like corner trade and all that.
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  And then like I said, Steven can Burrow through reality.
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  Seraphon, the lizard people who are back they're on they're like
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  temple spaceships and they can just fly between the planes,
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  which is fun. But in addition to all the
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  naturally occurring ones that just kind of pop up around the
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  realms, there are a series of very special ones, one in each
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  realm, that all lead to the same place that is itself outside the
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  realms. What?
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  Yes. Whoa.
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  There is a like terminal, basically a Grand Central
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  station for the realms that as far as anyone can tell is also
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  naturally occurring. It is called the all points and
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  it is its own. Yes, it is its own sub realm
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  that basically only contains realm gates to the other 8
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  realms. I'm picturing that plug in
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  portal space in Wreck it Ralph. Yeah, a little bit honestly.
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  Like it's natural landscapes but it is just dotted with realm
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  gates and there's there's little realm gates that lead to all the
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  different. Realm gates.
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  I. Don't know why that was so
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  charming, but it gave me just like, I don't know why, like a
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  little Chinatown vibe, like a Little Italy vibe.
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  I don't know. Yeah, there.
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  There are like living room door sized realm gates that can occur
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  and stuff. Yeah.
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  So cute. Not many houses and castle
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  lives. But the the main feature of the
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  all points are what are referred to as the all Gates.
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  These are realm gates that are massive, far larger than even
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  most naturally occurring realm gates.
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  The kind of thing that you could March an army through.
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  Less charming. Or like a huge trade caravan or
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  like, yeah, they're just absolutely massive by the
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  standard of realm gates. There is one all gate for each
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  of the realms, so 8 in total, and all of them are close to
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  each other in the all points. So someone could.
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  So during the age of myth, the all points becomes a centralized
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  like hub of trade and like cultural stuff, like all that
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  food that's coming out of guy ran before Nergal takes it over.
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  It goes through like it goes to the Jade gate which is the all
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  points gate in guy ran into the all points and then gets divvied
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  up from there and goes to each of those room.
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  Gates OK, yeah, OK, so, but not anymore.
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  I was guess so during during the age of myth.
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  It's a thing, but it's like there's nothing like super
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  notable about it. It's a hub for trade.
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  Yeah, it's like a highway. You wouldn't talk about the
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  highway. If you're telling a story about
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  a town, it's the highway. Exactly.
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  So it's important during the Age of Myth, but it comes into focus
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  during the start of the Age of Chaos and this Chaos invasion.
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  And the reason it comes into focus is that basically anyone
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  in the moral realms with a mind for strategy upon recognizing
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  that Chaos is back and Archaeon is here, right?
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  Grand Marshall on. The apology, yeah, that's the
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  bad one. That's that's the real bad sign.
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  We got it. Well, that's it for us.
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  Yep, the just the fact that because Sigmar was partially
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  considering the like, Chaos might show up as the
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  disorganized mess that normally is.
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  Like it's corrupting, it's influential, but it's not.
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  Chaos generally is not very good at organized conflict.
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  That's why it took him so long to conquer the Old world.
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  If we're being real. They need someone with a mind
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  for strategy. They need someone with skin in
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  the game, and Archaeon has always been that.
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  So the fact that Chaos is here, and specifically Archaeon is
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  here, anyone in the Mortal Realms with a mind for strategy
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  comes to the same conclusion. If Chaos can take the all
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  points, that's it. That's the end game.
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  That's the end game, and they know that if Arcane is aware of
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  the all Points, that's where he's going to go first.
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  So even during the Age of Myth, the all points built fortresses
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  around each of the All gates. They were aware that it was a
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  strategic point of attack. They knew when Cash showed up it
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  would be important to defend. So each of the all Gates has
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  like a standing military presence to push back.
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  Yeah, yeah. They're not caught completely
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  flat footed, but it is an overwhelming attack.
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  The implication is that while chaos is emerging kind of its
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  own fruition, now that our count is here, he is acting as the
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  strategic mind behind it. His job?
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  Yes, as reports start coming in from other realms, it seems like
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  even demons and whatnot are flooding towards the fortresses
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  at each all gate almost simultaneously.
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  The strategy is just to hit it from all sides because you can
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  get into any of the all gates. You got the ball game.
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  Absolutely, absolutely. Very much a blitz strategy.
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  Very much just using that kind of overwhelming like we have
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  nothing but demons like go get them thing that cast us so well.
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  That's pretty. And you can see how it's just
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  like, absolutely massive. Like you could move, yeah,
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  relocate a whole city through that end gate and light or all
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  gate. Oh yeah, absolutely.
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  OK, wow. Right.
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  So that's the Genesis gate. That's the one that connects to
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  Guy Ryan. We also, just for the
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  completionists in the audience, we have the Brim Fire Gate,
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  which connects to actually the realm of fire.
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  Oh, we have the End Gate, which is the one that connects to
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  Shayish, the realm of death. The Mercurial Gate, which
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  connects to Shaman, of course. Yeah, the MA Gate, which
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  connects to Gur, Realm of beasts.
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  Yep, the Penumbral Gate, which connects to Olgu.
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  And I also love the name of it. That's very good.
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  The meteoric gate which connects to Azir realm of heavens.
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  Yeah, and it has to be special, doesn't?
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  It I was waiting for. It the arcway of hish the only
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  one that doesn't follow the navic pattern.
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  Fuck off, techless, just fuck off.
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  We know that boy. We know that boy and his his
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  games. So let's talk a little bit about
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  so we talked about all the demons, we talked about the
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  Chaos gods. Let's talk a little bit about RK
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  on himself. Yeah.
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  We talked about him a little bit in the world that was episode.
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  So I'm going to touch on kind of the big points.
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  Archaeon was raised as a devout priest of Sigmar.
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  He was born to an empire woman in a Norse skin Raider kind of
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  child of two worlds is a big part of his identity because of
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  that, because he grew up with both the influence of like
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  stability, agriculture, the kind of like civilization, empire
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  building thing that Sigmar does very well, but also the take
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  what's yours eking out existence in unhospitable places.
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  That kind of conflict is core to his original identity where he
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  made it like he pursued the path of a priest of Sigmar to try and
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  resolve that kind of internal conflict within himself, feeling
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  that call of two different worlds.
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  So priest of Sigmar for a long time.
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  There is a prophecy that the ever chosen, the true champion
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  of chaos who would end the world, would be born under the
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  same circumstances as Archaeon. Sigmar priests find out of
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  Archaean's origin, they trace the prophecy back to him and
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  they lure him to a Sigmar temple that they then like hit with
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  artillery fire. Basically just safest thing for
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  the world is if we kill this person who has done us no harm.
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  Safest thing for the world. Give this person a reason to
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  hate. Us right, Absolutely,
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  absolutely. And the the classic adage it's
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  even if it's hypothetically the safest thing for the world is
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  not the best thing for Archaeon. And that is the thing that kind
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  of pushes him. He resisted for a long time.
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  He does not want to be the ever chosen.
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  He has tried very hard to like build a life for himself where
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  he is like doing good things and helping people.
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  But anywhere he goes, the Empire has already treated him as if he
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  is history's greatest monster. No matter what he does, finally
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  tips him over the breaking point.
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  He willingly accepts the gifts of the Chaos Gods, walks the
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  path, the glory into the world. Yeah, You want me to be the bad
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  guy? Fine, I'm the bad guy.
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  Absolutely. He's, listen, he's history's
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  greatest monster, but he's also a little bit of a sad boy, and
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  we like him for that. I like Archaeon is, yeah.
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  You can relate to a person with the world against them, gets
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  things placed upon them that they didn't choose.
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  Yeah, I'm very. I get it.
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  You can't judge the medium for not knowing what medium it is or
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  what genre it's in, right? The characters in a horror movie
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  don't know they're in a horror movie.
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  That's why they act that way. They think they're in an action
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  movie, that they're going to survive at the end.
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  That's why they act that way. OK, characters faced with
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  prophecy don't have 6th grade social studies to teach him
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  about Greek prophecies and how you, when you try to go against
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  it, you just create it, right? Like the characters in Merlin
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  don't have that. So you can't blame Merlin for
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  trying to stop the Mordred problem.
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  If he had tried to stop the Mordred problem, we would have
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  had the Mordred problem. And what I'm saying is this the
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  thing that makes me most angry. But also also, and now just even
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  without knowing, if you try to disrupt the prophecy, you will
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  walk into its path. It also just makes me the most
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  angry when it's like, well, we should kill this person who's
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  done us no harm to stop him from doing us harm.
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  It's like, but that's just, that's just not smart because
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  what you're doing is just giving them a reason to hate you.
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  Absolutely. Archaeon.
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  Original name Diedrich, by the way.
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  Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I should have waited until you
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  were not drinking water for that.
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  Diedrich Caster is his given name.
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  Which is not that funny of a name.
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  No, no, yes, the juxtaposition of Archaeon and Diedrich Caster.
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  His name could have been Justin McElroy and everybody got in the
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  same response. Shout out.
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  I'm a BIM Bam. Yeah, Young, young Diedrich
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  Caster. Finding out that he's the
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  subject to prophecy, having the church turn on him, having
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  mentors and friends turn on him, praying, crying out to Sigmar to
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  please alleviate him of this like prophecy alleviate him of
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  this burden. Remind everyone that this is not
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  the person he wants to be and just getting no.
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  Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  And just getting nothing. No response in return and.
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  It's very much what happens to old King Loki in the Marvel
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  Comics. We're in the the ark that is the
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  Kid Loki ark where Loki dies and then comes back as Kid Loki.
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  It's a whole thing, Don't worry about it.
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  But you get this character who is also kind of just the
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  original Loki through machinations, but doesn't
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  necessarily want to be that person.
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  He's like, I have that person's memories, but they're not my
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  memories, right? So you get in the Agent of
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  Asgard books, you have Loki who wants to be a hero.
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  He wants to wipe the slates clean.
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  He wants to just get to be a new person, but he keeps being
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  hounded by the future version of himself, who is old King Loki,
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  who's just classic villainous Lucky.
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  And you're like, well, I don't want to be that.
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  But we see in an arc how that happens.
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  And it's after the events of the Age of Asgard comic where
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  everyone just refers to him as the God of lies, where anytime
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  anything happens, anytime he says anything, it's always like,
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  well, what can we expect? You're just the God of lies over
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  and over and over again. So finally he's like, OK, then
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  I'm the God of lies. I guess that's all I'll ever
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  read to you. And we get this villainous Loki
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  who creates all these instances that this character has been
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  dealing with. And so the break, and I'll just
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  say that part now because it's great, is the break when it's
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  when our Loki in the modern time, when things happen and
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  they're like, yeah, but I'm not the God of lies.
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  I'm the God of stories, and I can beat you.
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  And so the break is this character getting the
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  opportunity to be like, no, no, no, actually, I'm going to do my
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  own thing. But that's that's not what poor
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  Diedrich got to do. He doesn't exist in a comic
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  book. No, unfortunately Diedrich
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  Diedrich's path was picked out for him long before he existed.
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  Also, I want to issue a small correction.
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  It wasn't technically a thing I said wrong, but it's a thing I
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  may be implied wrong in the world There was episode.
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  By the time you're hearing this, it's probably been like a year
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  since that episode aired, but whatever.
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  Yeah, podcasting. Yes, I at one point referred to
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  Archaeon as the first time all four chaos gods like agreed and
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  worked together. That is not true.
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  I've actually learned in the interim that that is not true.
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  Archaeon is the ever Chosen, but there have been other ever
• 20:18
  chosen before him. What?
• 20:20
  Yes, Chaos champions. Not ones who are ever going to
• 20:23
  be successful in conquering the world, but Chaos champions who
• 20:27
  fit just close enough that they decide to try and fulfill the
• 20:30
  prophecy and were in turn anointed by the Chaos gods and
• 20:34
  brought low by a great power. Sigmar killed one of them
• 20:39
  personally. So Sigmar's dealt with Ever
• 20:41
  Chasms before, Yes. It's like once in duration.
• 20:44
  There's twelve of them before Archaeon and we don't know and
• 20:47
  basically anything about most of them because usually it's just
• 20:50
  like, Yep, and Ever Chosen rises in the north and then someone
• 20:53
  heroic puts him down. Arcan is the first one to win.
• 20:57
  That's why he's the Ever Chosen of Chaos, as opposed to the Ever
• 21:00
  Chosen of Chaos. So OK, in the OK, this actually
• 21:03
  recontextualizes what their decision to like just try to get
• 21:06
  rid of him from the jump. Is that like have they done that
• 21:09
  before? Not this group, the last ever
• 21:13
  chosen before Archaeon. Sigmar killed when he was still
• 21:16
  mortal. Yeah.
• 21:17
  Oh, that's a long time. That's a long fucking.
• 21:20
  Time, yes. OK, never mind then.
• 21:24
  Yeah. So it's still, it's still them.
• 21:26
  I would always. Give them credit.
• 21:27
  If they're like every time we have a potential, we just kill
• 21:30
  them and we'd like, OK, so it wasn't that one and we're good.
• 21:32
  We have to worry about that. But like, no, we don't have
• 21:34
  that. So never mind.
• 21:35
  They're still wrong. And even even if that was the
• 21:37
  situation. They'd still be wrong.
• 21:39
  I was. Going to say they'd still be
• 21:40
  wrong and the other ever chosen's are always fought after
• 21:44
  they have like shown that they are aspiring to be average.
• 21:47
  They have raised armies in the north.
• 21:48
  They are. Marching.
• 21:50
  So there are specific. OK, yeah, so they're doing the
• 21:53
  bad guy. Shit.
• 21:54
  And here's this one dude distinctly not doing the bad guy
• 21:59
  shit. There is like another ever
• 22:02
  chosen that we actually know quite a bit about.
• 22:04
  We're not going to talk about them a ton this episode, but it
• 22:06
  is the like Chaos Undivided episode kind of because we're
• 22:10
  talking about it Archaeon. So I know people would be mad if
• 22:12
  I didn't bring him up. The first ever Chosen we do know
• 22:15
  quite a bit about because he's still around.
• 22:18
  Excuse, he failed to destroy the world, but he gave it a spirited
• 22:22
  enough effort that in his death throes, the Chaos gods offered
• 22:26
  him the same thing they offered Archaeon.
• 22:29
  Dark Apotheosis. Ascension to being a demon.
• 22:34
  I just did an episode for the music podcast about apotheosis.
• 22:38
  Yeah, I love the word. It's a.
• 22:40
  Great way. Yeah.
• 22:40
  I was like, oh, dark apotheosis is a great way to format.
• 22:43
  I'll make you a demon. Yep.
• 22:44
  Yeah, the profane act of taking a mortal soul and turning it
• 22:48
  into a demonic 1. To our knowledge, he is the
• 22:51
  first person to ever undergo the process as his reward for being
• 22:56
  the first ever chosen. His name was Bella Core.
• 22:59
  See, that's a great name. It's a great name.
• 23:01
  Great name for the first one to go through Dark apotheosis.
• 23:03
  Right, First demon Prince and he's still around.
• 23:08
  But he is a master manipulator. He is not someone who's going to
• 23:11
  show up on a battlefield to do a thing.
• 23:13
  He's pulling chords behind the strings.
• 23:14
  He's probably around during like this period.
• 23:16
  We just don't know what he's up to 'cause he's doing Bellacour
• 23:20
  shit. He's doing Bellacour shit.
• 23:22
  But yeah, so Archaeon, so Archaeon gathers the 66
• 23:27
  treasures of Chaos, destroys the world, bargains for safety for
• 23:33
  him, his for him, his Knights and his their horses and spends
• 23:38
  a bunch of time in the realm of Chaos.
• 23:39
  And now he's back. We I mentioned in a previous
• 23:42
  episode that we get like a one line descriptor that the Chaos
• 23:47
  gods had Archaeon like conquering other worlds in the
• 23:50
  interim. What?
• 23:51
  We don't really know anything about that.
• 23:52
  Yeah. What does that mean?
• 23:54
  Right. Except that it's like padded
• 23:56
  Archaeon's resume basically built him up as a a multi world
• 24:02
  ending threat. And then when he is brought here
• 24:06
  to the mortal realms and he finds that Sigmar is here, his
• 24:11
  ancient rival, he the person who failed him, all of the other
• 24:16
  worlds he has conquered since the world that was like he was
• 24:19
  starting to feel the yoke of chaos.
• 24:21
  He was starting to feel the like this was a bad deal.
• 24:23
  I need to like turn on them. Basically is kind of where
• 24:27
  Archaeon is at, where he doesn't really want to serve the Chaos
• 24:30
  Gods anymore. What does he?
• 24:32
  Want to do? So archaeon's like.
• 24:35
  What are the options are available to Archaeon?
• 24:38
  Archaeon's big picture goal and as of right now, he's going to
• 24:43
  start with Sigmar. Archaeon's big picture goal is
• 24:46
  death to all gods. OK, sure.
• 24:49
  Yeah. He he's kind of of that, like
• 24:51
  he's still history's grace muster.
• 24:52
  He's going to use evil means to accomplish it.
• 24:55
  He's going to kill all of the easy to kill gods first before
• 24:58
  he turns on the Chaos gods. But his dream of the future is a
• 25:03
  world in which the lives of mortals are no longer determined
• 25:06
  by these distant immortal entities pulling their strings.
• 25:11
  And like, I don't know, that's an empathetic goal.
• 25:14
  Yeah, listen, I'm not saying he's right.
• 25:16
  I am saying I get it. Yeah, absolutely.
• 25:19
  A boy whose entire life path has been the subject of prophecy,
• 25:23
  who lost everything because of that prophecy, who is genuinely
• 25:28
  a plaything of divinity. Yeah, absolutely, totally get
• 25:33
  it. But he is supposed in the moral
• 25:35
  realms. And what's gonna do farm after
• 25:38
  that? Like we have a Thanos situation?
• 25:40
  I. Mean maybe he might just die
• 25:41
  like that might just that might just be like he's done he
• 25:45
  doesn't have anything else to do snap the stones out of existence
• 25:48
  and like. Is he a demon?
• 25:50
  No, Archaeon explicitly turned down a dark apotheosis when the
• 25:54
  Chaos Gods offered it. Because he's cleverer than Bella
• 25:57
  Core, if we're being real. That's what honestly I was
• 26:00
  thinking. I was thinking like OK, you
• 26:01
  can't get that if you're legit a demon because I feel like you
• 26:03
  don't necessarily have autonomy outside of the chaos gods.
• 26:07
  Yes, Archaeon was always suspicious of the gods, even
• 26:10
  when they were helping him. When they offered him dark
• 26:11
  apotheosis, he said functionally, I'm not going to
• 26:15
  give you another chain to put on me.
• 26:18
  Like he knows the situation. He's.
• 26:20
  In I Want Me, My homies are horses.
• 26:22
  Yep, arrives in the Mortal Realms and starts plotting.
• 26:27
  Starts leading the forces of Chaos against the All Gates.
• 26:30
  Oh, he is angry, Yes. Wow, look at that guy.
• 26:33
  He's got a lot of, he's got a lot of different kinds of
• 26:35
  skulls, which I do like. He's every armor.
• 26:38
  Bird skull. He's every armored knight you've
• 26:40
  ever seen painted on the side of a van.
• 26:41
  Yeah. Just like more horns than you
• 26:44
  would expect, but less than you would imagine.
• 26:46
  There are a flaming ass sword? Hell yeah.
• 26:50
  Burning runes in a shield? Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:53
  His sword is called the Slayer of Kings Art Sword we.
• 26:57
  Can upgrade that. We can be the Slayer of gods.
• 26:58
  I think it's time to upgrade that sword.
• 27:01
  I think I've mentioned him before, but he still wields the
• 27:03
  six Treasures of Chaos, immensely powerful magical
• 27:05
  artifacts. The thing on his shield is the
• 27:07
  ever burning schedule of chaos. Yeah, the Slayer of Kings is his
• 27:11
  sword. His helmet is the Helm of
• 27:13
  Domination, which gives him control over the minds of
• 27:16
  mortals. Not like ultimate control, but
• 27:18
  he's just very influential. The jewel in the like top of his
• 27:24
  crown is the Eye of Shirian, which used to give him visions
• 27:29
  of the future, but it got broken.
• 27:31
  Yeah, so only that one guy has visions of the.
• 27:32
  Future now, yeah. Yep.
• 27:34
  And there's already like a Xingian artifact before that, so
• 27:36
  it keeps the keeps the format. He wears the armor of Morkar
• 27:40
  which protects him from all but the most devastating wounds.
• 27:44
  And the 6th treasure of chaos is his horse door car.
• 27:48
  There we go. Yeah.
• 27:50
  But yeah, sets about his plan to conquer the all points.
• 27:58
  And in that in doing that, we're going to talk a little bit about
• 28:01
  what like what is an army led by the ever chosen look like?
• 28:05
  Who are the people who are fighting alongside a person who
• 28:08
  just has I'm evil with shit painted on them in bright red
• 28:10
  letters. So as a rule, Arkan doesn't
• 28:15
  fight alongside demons. Interesting.
• 28:17
  He will if he has to. There's and the notable
• 28:20
  exception that Dorgar, his horse, is technically a demon,
• 28:23
  but that is one part he doesn't trust demons, which fair.
• 28:30
  And probably like 3 parts that of all of our chaos skills, he
• 28:36
  is probably most notable for his mastery of the human psyche.
• 28:40
  Interesting. In the same way that, you know,
• 28:43
  Batman like, manipulates the fear of criminals to turn it
• 28:47
  back on themselves, Archaeon does something similar to both
• 28:49
  the people he's fighting and the people he is in command of.
• 28:53
  The he likes working with mortal soldiers because the threat of
• 28:59
  performing poorly in the eyes of the gods and in the eyes of the
• 29:03
  ever chosen and then having to like, report to the ever chosen
• 29:08
  that you failed him is a motivation.
• 29:11
  He knows how to like, dig the knife in and twist.
• 29:15
  Basically. It's not an altruistic reason,
• 29:18
  he just knows that his mortal followers will do anything he
• 29:22
  commands them to, basically. But let's talk a little bit
• 29:25
  about those forces. So mortals who follow Archaeon
• 29:29
  split into generally like three groups.
• 29:32
  The first of those groups I like to call cultists or to be
• 29:35
  unaware. So these are people who we
• 29:40
  talked about how chaos worship Austin often gets into groups
• 29:43
  very subtly. Old traditions get reframed as
• 29:47
  chaos worship that manipulates people into doing like chaosy
• 29:52
  things. And then there's also people who
• 29:54
  aren't in it for the religious aspect and who just see another
• 29:58
  warlord decide joining up with him is a way to gain fame.
• 30:02
  Not notoriety, wealth, whatever. These are like the lowest cast
• 30:08
  of people who fight alongside Archaeon.
• 30:10
  They're just fodder. Archaeon has no special thought
• 30:13
  for them. They're just more bodies to
• 30:14
  throw at the enemy, and rarely do they ever move up the
• 30:18
  hierarchy. They don't know the true names
• 30:21
  of the gods. They are operating under false
• 30:23
  pretense. That's kind of the vibe with
• 30:27
  cultists. At the far end of the spectrum,
• 30:31
  we have Chaos Warriors. So these are people who have
• 30:36
  explicitly started the path to glory.
• 30:39
  They are following in Archaeon's footsteps.
• 30:41
  They are willingly serving the Chaos Gods, and do so with the
• 30:47
  hope and promise that they might someday ascend up the pantheon
• 30:51
  and also become immortal warriors of darkness.
• 30:55
  This dude's got burning ruins on his axe.
• 30:57
  Yeah, he does. That is a very common feature
• 30:59
  amongst Chaos Warriors. That makes sense.
• 31:03
  We've got some chosen there, which is cool.
• 31:05
  A normal Chaos warrior is basically anyone who has taken
• 31:08
  the black Chaos Plate, which is standard for our Chaos forces,
• 31:12
  forged partially with warp stone, which makes it magical
• 31:16
  and chaotic and resistant. Chosen as any Chaos warrior who
• 31:20
  has caught the eyes of the gods in a good way.
• 31:22
  In a good way. 'Cause you can catch the eyes of
• 31:24
  the gods and end up as a chaos spawn.
• 31:27
  You don't want that. No, but chosen are
• 31:30
  supernaturally powerful. A chosen could RIP a person in
• 31:32
  half with their bare hands like but they are sealed in their
• 31:36
  armor. They are It is much is as much a
• 31:39
  prison to them as it is an empowerment.
• 31:43
  Oh, like Darth Vader. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:44
  And that is a big vibe. The further the ultimate like
• 31:49
  theme of Chaos worship and being like a Chaos warrior is the
• 31:53
  further you move up the hierarchy, the more powerful
• 31:56
  become and the less, less free you are.
• 31:59
  You become increasingly a tool of the Chaos gods.
• 32:02
  And then you are a very effective tool of the Chaos
• 32:04
  gods, but you are still in chains.
• 32:08
  And then right in the middle, which what I think is the most
• 32:10
  interesting group, next on the list are Dark Oath.
• 32:16
  OK. Yeah, so, Darko, they're kind of
• 32:21
  caught in the middle. We've got some Red Sojourn Conan
• 32:27
  the Barbarian aesthetic going. On there, absolutely.
• 32:30
  So Darkos are generally aware of the true nature of the Chaos
• 32:35
  Gods. They might not call them the
• 32:37
  right thing, but they at least know what they're getting into
• 32:40
  when they're in service of Chaos.
• 32:43
  Among Darkos, you are most likely to find what I think are
• 32:46
  the most compelling kind of chaos characters.
• 32:49
  People who have been like pushed to the brink and have had to
• 32:54
  choose or have had have been forced to serve chaos to
• 32:58
  survive. That is kind of the defining
• 33:01
  trait of Dark Oath. Many.
• 33:04
  This dude has hands on his belt next to the skulls he does.
• 33:08
  All in service. Many dark oath do eventually end
• 33:13
  up like choosing the proper path becoming chaos warriors, but a
• 33:18
  lot their option were join or die and they chose join and they
• 33:24
  try and keep an arm's length with the chaos gods.
• 33:27
  That's kind of where the nomenclature dark oath comes
• 33:29
  from. Rather than a chaos warrior will
• 33:31
  often swear fealty to a specific chaos God.
• 33:35
  So you'll have a Chaos chosen of Nergal who has sworn exclusive
• 33:39
  fealty to Nergal, etcetera. Undivided Chaos warriors who
• 33:43
  swear fealty to Archaeon instead of any of the gods specifically
• 33:47
  or Bellacore. Interesting ones that swear
• 33:50
  fealty to Bellacore often pretend they've sworn fealty to
• 33:52
  Archaeon because those two fucking hate each.
• 33:55
  Other I can bet. Bellacore still thinks that he
• 33:59
  should be the average chosen and.
• 34:01
  The bro you're not. Yes, and Archaeon doesn't just
• 34:04
  doesn't like Bellacourt, doesn't like demons generally and
• 34:07
  Bellacourt. Had some extra pathetic.
• 34:08
  Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 34:10
  He's literally like you were the first ever chosen and you chose
• 34:13
  dark apotheosis, and you are still in service to the Chaos
• 34:16
  gods. You have had multitudinous
• 34:17
  lifetimes over me. What are you doing?
• 34:19
  Yeah, but Dark Oath do not swear fealty to a Chaos God, but they
• 34:25
  will bargain with them. Like I said, that's where the
• 34:27
  nomenclature Dark Oath comes from.
• 34:29
  It is not I will serve you and you will give me power.
• 34:32
  It is I will slay that enemy in your name, and you will give me
• 34:35
  the strength to finish this battle.
• 34:37
  And then we're done. Until I like don't call me, I'll
• 34:40
  call you basically and keeping that arms reach.
• 34:44
  We get a lot of really interesting characters.
• 34:45
  The the guy on the right there is actually a named character
• 34:48
  named Gunner Brand who leads a tribe of dark oath in order to
• 34:54
  like protect his people basically, right.
• 34:55
  He has a wife and daughter. He has a son.
• 34:58
  All of them are like dark oath marauders, but he is constantly
• 35:04
  like his daughter tends to get really into it, like to relish
• 35:07
  in the power and he is constantly trying to like.
• 35:09
  No, yeah. Yeah, we're doing this to
• 35:12
  survive. Don't let them like tempt you
• 35:14
  into becoming one of their things, which is fascinating.
• 35:17
  Like, that's really cool. Yeah, that's really interesting.
• 35:20
  Narrative stuff you could do with Chaos, but that is the kind
• 35:23
  of people that Archaeon finds and utilizes in this war to
• 35:29
  conquer the realms. And a lot of them are people he
• 35:31
  brought from the old world. His most elite guard, the the
• 35:35
  Verand Guard, those Knights that he had saved, and their horses.
• 35:39
  Those horses got muted into demonic monstrosity in the realm
• 35:42
  of Chaos, but they're still here.
• 35:44
  They're still loyal. There's 13 circles of Verand
• 35:47
  Guard and they fight in Archaeon's name except for fun.
• 35:54
  Little bit spoilerly, but recent development, we actually
• 35:57
  recently learned that the 1st circle of Verand Guard are loyal
• 36:01
  to Bellacor and they turned on. What?
• 36:04
  Oh no, what? So.
• 36:07
  Juicy, sassy. Yeah, love it terribly.
• 36:12
  But yeah, Archaeon ride down to the realms.
• 36:18
  I think we have one more picture of Archaeon.
• 36:20
  Like leading the vanguard. Oh, Yep.
• 36:25
  Oh yeah, those are horses. Nope, those are not.
• 36:27
  Horses anymore. So yeah, Archaeon rides out with
• 36:30
  the Vanguard and we are going to shift back to talking about
• 36:35
  Sigmar he is doing during all of this.
• 36:38
  So as soon as Sigmar figures out what is happening, the response
• 36:43
  is immediate on his end. He grabs the tribes, he marches
• 36:47
  on the Ignis Gate, he leads them through and he basically says,
• 36:52
  OK, we're here on actually, they are going to be going for the
• 36:57
  brim fire gate here on actually, because that is what makes the
• 37:01
  most tactical sense. Like the God that woke up here,
• 37:06
  Grim Near is dead. And so the people here need all
• 37:08
  the help they can get. Like go reinforce.
• 37:11
  Like the fire slayers, the dwarfs who are collecting the
• 37:14
  pieces of Grim Near his gold pieces, Go reinforce them.
• 37:17
  Go protect the brim fire gate. I need to like basically gather
• 37:23
  the pantheon slash, try and figure out what's going on and
• 37:27
  like reinforce the other realms. So that's what I Sigmar, I'm
• 37:30
  going to do. OK.
• 37:32
  Also Dracothian. Dragon BFF, Yeah.
• 37:36
  I would love to fight alongside you, but we need to split up.
• 37:38
  Time is of the essence, Gorka. Marko's been like losing it.
• 37:43
  Try and go either talk sense into him or if that doesn't
• 37:47
  work, just point him towards something that we need like.
• 37:51
  Right. Yeah.
• 37:51
  Exactly, like I don't know if you're going to be able to get
• 37:54
  him like calmed down, but at least just try and like point
• 37:58
  him at like a chaos army or something so he's not just
• 38:00
  smashing stuff. Yeah, you're huge.
• 38:02
  You're the size of the sky. I think you can do it.
• 38:05
  You're the only person I trust you can do it.
• 38:07
  Like go and Recorthian says, Oh, and also we're going to talk
• 38:11
  about them later. But also, Sigmar says I'm
• 38:13
  trusting you to go to Ger to find Gorkum Orca because I also
• 38:17
  know that if it comes to it, your children can help you
• 38:20
  there. Oh.
• 38:21
  Because Dracothian has kids during the age of.
• 38:25
  OK. And they're great.
• 38:28
  Awesome. I'm so excited.
• 38:29
  We only know about two of them. OK, Their names are Krondis and
• 38:32
  Kazarai. Great names.
• 38:34
  But Dracothian is the, like, sire dragon of what all come to
• 38:39
  be known as kind of like, heavenly Dragons, OK?
• 38:42
  In the same way that Vulcatrix, the person who fought Grim Near,
• 38:46
  is the mother of all salamanders.
• 38:48
  Different kind of dragon, yeah, different God beast progenitors.
• 38:53
  But Drakothian's children have like settled into Guru around
• 38:57
  with beasts, of course. And so he's like, Yep, I'm going
• 38:59
  to go find Condes and Kazurai and my kids, Yeah.
• 39:03
  And we'll try and figure out the Gorka Barca situation.
• 39:05
  So Sigmar helps with the fighting on Akshi for a little
• 39:08
  bit, just smashing through Chaos armies.
• 39:11
  This is the thing that bears mentioning kind of now at the
• 39:14
  top of how we're going to talk about dead spoilers.
• 39:16
  Sigmar's like Realm world tour during the invasion of Chaos.
• 39:21
  Gods in Age of Sigmar and Warhammer broadly are empowered
• 39:25
  by their domain, right? If like Teklas is the God of
• 39:30
  magic, if everyone in the realms was doing magic, he would be
• 39:33
  vastly more powerful than if no one was doing magic.
• 39:36
  And that works for Chaos gods as well.
• 39:38
  All magic empowered zinch as well.
• 39:41
  Because change. Sigmar is the God of
• 39:44
  civilization has been greatly empowered by the age of myth.
• 39:50
  Things generally been going quite well.
• 39:52
  There's still conflict, but it's rarely large scale conflict and
• 39:56
  Zier specifically is basically just a massive plane wide like
• 40:00
  peaceful civilization and so Sigmar.
• 40:04
  During this time that we were talking about now is probably
• 40:07
  the most powerful he's ever been.
• 40:10
  Wow, Sigmar did one of his jobs. Yeah, Yeah, he did.
• 40:13
  One of them, he did really good at one of his jobs.
• 40:17
  And so even by the standards of like the Sigmar who fought RK
• 40:21
  onto a standstill during the End Times, Sigmar just cleaves
• 40:26
  through armies of like Bloodborne Corn Berserkers and
• 40:29
  Chaos Warriors pouring into actually carves a swath that his
• 40:34
  like mortal followers and the fire slayers can defend and says
• 40:37
  I've bought you as much as I can.
• 40:39
  Time is of the essence. I'm going straight to Guy ran
• 40:42
  because it sounds like shits bad there.
• 40:44
  Yeah is shits bad. There is shit bad in guy ran.
• 40:47
  Yeah, huh. Wild.
• 40:51
  Rushes to what's currently called the Mist Gate, but it
• 40:53
  will eventually be called the Hammer.
• 40:55
  Hammerfell Gate. Hammerfell Gate.
• 40:57
  Oh, interesting. Yeah.
• 40:58
  I wonder what what happens there.
• 41:00
  Yeah, I wonder what could happen there.
• 41:01
  Maybe. Hammer Hall excuse me, but still
• 41:08
  rushes to the mist gate, passing the guy ran just immediately
• 41:12
  like choking on the diseases and horrid putrescence of Nergal,
• 41:18
  finds Silvaneth, who are doing their best to protect the the
• 41:22
  tree people, the children of Ilario who are doing their best
• 41:26
  to try and fight off Nergal, but they are also on the back foot.
• 41:28
  It is not their nature to fight life with life.
• 41:30
  He while he is in Guy Ran, he recognizes that doing the work
• 41:37
  it would take to like, free Guy Ran from Nergal's grip would
• 41:41
  risk losing everything else in the infections just too deep.
• 41:46
  So he tries to figure out the best possible thing to do to,
• 41:52
  like, help Guy ran before moving on.
• 41:55
  OK. And he finds this extremely
• 41:57
  powerful Great Unclean One, basically who is leading the
• 42:00
  nerval side of the war effort in Guy Ran.
• 42:03
  That Grand Unclean One's name is Feculox.
• 42:06
  Yeah, of course it is of. Course it is.
• 42:09
  And Sigmar kills him dead with a single strike.
• 42:13
  Of course he does. He is.
• 42:14
  Yes, he is. Sigmar is what he does.
• 42:16
  He is riding high, he Galmarize is holy in ways that are
• 42:21
  undescribable, blasts this demon into nothing basically, and
• 42:26
  Sigmar helps push back the tide. Establish like a safe area for
• 42:30
  the Silvanette to like set up camp.
• 42:33
  By this time Alario has already like retreated into her soulpod.
• 42:37
  It is being safeguarded by one of her most loyal like
• 42:42
  commanders. A character who we only know is
• 42:45
  named the Lady of Vines. OK, she's a great name.
• 42:48
  She's a big tree person with a bunch of vines coming off her.
• 42:50
  She's the Lady of Vines. Absolutely she is.
• 42:51
  She's just like wrapped Alario Soulpod on her back with her
• 42:54
  vines basically carrying her like a baby Bjorn.
• 42:57
  Oh wow, yeah. And they, like, finally have
• 43:02
  kind of a safe place to, like, plant Polario again and try and
• 43:06
  hold off the tide and, like, just Sigmar rolling through.
• 43:10
  And giving them that, like, help to push back buys them enough
• 43:14
  time to, like, set up more defenses and start pushing back
• 43:18
  against Nerkel. Yeah, they can send
• 43:20
  reinforcements to the Genesis Gate to stop like Archon's
• 43:23
  forces to getting into the all points.
• 43:25
  And Sigmar sees this and says, OK, even in the worst situation,
• 43:29
  like more people are probably going to need breathing room.
• 43:31
  If we can stabilize, I think we can do it.
• 43:35
  I think we can win. And with that, he leaves Guy
• 43:40
  Ram. He trusts the civil enough to do
• 43:42
  what they need to do. And next he heads for well.
• 43:48
  So while he's in Guy Ram, he says, hey, like how did Nergal
• 43:52
  overwhelm you so quickly? And the Silva nests say, well,
• 43:56
  we reached across like the end way to Shayish to get Nagash's
• 44:01
  help and he didn't answer. Didn't answer our fucking texts.
• 44:06
  And Sigmar goes, oh that son of a bitch.
• 44:08
  And so the next place he goes is Shayish.
• 44:13
  Yeah, good. I'm glad.
• 44:16
  I'm glad. Yeah.
• 44:19
  Sigmar crosses the end wave to Shayish and when he arrives
• 44:24
  there is active fighting but it's not as much as he was
• 44:28
  expecting. So Shayish has a couple of
• 44:32
  advantages in this battle. No cast gods emerged there.
• 44:35
  So it doesn't have like direct portals into the realm of Chaos
• 44:38
  like Iran and actually do. Nagash is shockingly in control
• 44:43
  of Shayish more than basically any other goddess in control of
• 44:46
  their realms. And he did that by murdering
• 44:47
  everyone, to be clear. But that does give him a huge
• 44:51
  upside. And Nagash's soldiers don't feel
• 44:53
  fear or pain or any of the things you associate with
• 44:55
  mortal. The skeletons, yeah, skeletons
• 44:57
  and ghosts and pure concentrate Halloween vibe.
• 45:04
  So Sigmar shows up to Shayish basically like ready to throw
• 45:08
  down. And he finds that Nagash is
• 45:11
  functionally like finishing cleaning up his own fight.
• 45:15
  OK. Like Chaos broached Shayish and
• 45:18
  Nagash brought the entire force of death down upon them.
• 45:21
  Yeah, Nagash for all his faults, has a strategic mind.
• 45:26
  He also figured out immediately that Arcan would be going for
• 45:28
  the all gates and he has constructed a fortress of bones
• 45:32
  and bodies around it basically. Yeah.
• 45:37
  I. Mean yeah, I mean yeah.
• 45:41
  He's the God of death and what's and.
• 45:43
  What's the most plentiful resource down here?
• 45:45
  Bones and bodies, sure. He got a Nergal incursion across
• 45:50
  the the end way that he thoroughly and succinctly
• 45:55
  quashed. He has had like cornered demons
• 45:57
  pouring in from actually a lot of stuff like redirected to
• 46:01
  Shayush when they figured out it was going to be a hard fight.
• 46:03
  And he has managed to if not beat them at least contain them
• 46:07
  for the time being. And Sigma rolls up like ready
• 46:10
  for a fight, like ready to like punk Nagash's ass and stuff him
• 46:14
  in a locker, basically not playing fair and finds not like
• 46:19
  a defiant or a treacherous Nagash, but basically a like,
• 46:24
  I'm sorry, I couldn't like respond sooner.
• 46:26
  I had to secure Shayish. I've already like sent skeletons
• 46:30
  through a realm gate to Akshi because I recognized that the
• 46:33
  other and I've sent like undead and ghosts into guy ran to
• 46:37
  reinforce the genesis gate. Like I also get the plan and I
• 46:40
  know you're probably mad at me because like it looks like I was
• 46:44
  just. Fucking around like.
• 46:46
  On myself, yeah, but it is a he doesn't use these words
• 46:49
  obviously, but it's a put your own oxygen mask on before
• 46:52
  helping other situation. OK, so she's basically secure
• 46:55
  now and I can put my resources elsewhere.
• 46:58
  It literally just like hammer overhead to hit in the gash and
• 47:01
  it's just like wait wait, wait, no.
• 47:03
  But you'll like this. Yeah, yeah, it's very.
• 47:07
  Sigmar doesn't trust him, no. Obviously, no, I don't trust
• 47:11
  him. But he does not find in Shaish
• 47:15
  what he was expecting. Expecting.
• 47:16
  To find treachery, and if this is the thing he has to believe
• 47:23
  to mean that they win, he's going to take Nagash at his word
• 47:27
  for now. OK, because we don't have any
• 47:29
  evidence to the contrary. And there's fighting elsewhere
• 47:32
  to be had, OK. And this is the end game, right?
• 47:36
  Like, this is the fight we've all been waiting for, OK.
• 47:39
  And so he doesn't trust Nagash you.
• 47:40
  Can't get mad at Star Lord for punching Thanos that one time.
• 47:44
  He's here, now let's just move. Forward.
• 47:47
  Yep, very much like we are going to talk about this later.
• 47:50
  We're going to talk about why Guy ran as like a desolate
• 47:53
  hellscape later, but for now, keep doing what you're doing.
• 47:59
  Like I'm going to move on, but like.
• 48:01
  But. I'm going to.
• 48:02
  I'm watching you, yeah. That locker's still open.
• 48:05
  Yes, absolutely. But yeah, Nagash sends undead to
• 48:10
  reinforce the other all gates. OK, that's pretty.
• 48:14
  That's pretty fucking cool. That's that scene from Lord of
• 48:16
  the Rings. Yeah, absolutely.
• 48:17
  The fucking ghosts pour out of the ship.
• 48:19
  That's pretty fucking cool. Absolutely it just legions of
• 48:22
  any extenses influence to the other realms.
• 48:24
  So not only does he like send skeletons and zombies like
• 48:27
  through the gates to reinforce, but the defenders on actually
• 48:30
  just have their dead like rise again to continue the fight.
• 48:34
  Super cool. Harrowing, right?
• 48:36
  But. Super cool.
• 48:36
  Again, super cool. It's hey, anything in a fight,
• 48:39
  right? Yeah, yeah.
• 48:41
  But OK, but the trauma? Who's the God of therapy?
• 48:46
  It's bad. Yeah, right.
• 48:48
  Probably Sigmar. No Sigmar would be bad at
• 48:50
  therapy. Yeah, Sigmar would be very much.
• 48:52
  You put that in a box and you throw that box in the river.
• 48:55
  Don't worry about that. Is that the most important thing
• 48:57
  right now? No.
• 48:58
  We we've seen how Sigmar responds to trauma.
• 49:00
  He works himself into a fit, not like an emotional fit but just
• 49:07
  like works and works and works and works and works and hopes
• 49:09
  it's enough and doesn't get better.
• 49:12
  He heads to OLGU after Sayesh. It's 1/2 like the elves would be
• 49:20
  helpful right now, and 1/2 like, what are malaria and Marathi do?
• 49:26
  Yeah, like, OK, I've talked to Nagash.
• 49:30
  I'm just going to get all by like wild cards out of the way,
• 49:33
  right? Now let's do some rounds real
• 49:35
  quick. He arrives in Olgu.
• 49:36
  Olgu leads him straight to malaria and Marathi, because
• 49:40
  Olgu loves to contain its secrets.
• 49:41
  But malaria and Marathi both have some control over what the
• 49:43
  realm does, and so they just have Olgu lead Sigmar to them.
• 49:48
  They're holding out pretty well. Olgu has its God.
• 49:51
  No demons emerged first in Olgu, so they're pouring across the
• 49:55
  connection from Hish, but it's hard to navigate.
• 49:59
  We'll go with the best of times, and if it doesn't want you
• 50:01
  there, you're not finding shit. So Valerian and Rathi have
• 50:05
  basically just been running demons rampant.
• 50:08
  They've been running like Archaeans, mortal followers
• 50:10
  rampant, keeping them away from their all gates because they
• 50:13
  also figured it out. They're both tactical geniuses
• 50:16
  functionally, and Oku is basically doing fine.
• 50:21
  Interesting. There's enough here that Sigmar,
• 50:23
  like, joins in some of the fighting, like Malaria and MRF.
• 50:25
  He catch themselves like on the back foot when Sigmar shows up,
• 50:29
  but he like helps them push back against like an incoming wave of
• 50:33
  chaos warriors. And he's basically like, I'm
• 50:35
  suspicious that you 2 and Nagash are like doing well Yeah of
• 50:39
  everybody. But like fuck it like this.
• 50:43
  This is was the intent. Like I can't just be suspicious
• 50:45
  that people are succeeding because that was always the
• 50:49
  hope. So like we we faltered.
• 50:51
  We we tripped up in a couple of places, but I'm going to trust
• 50:55
  you and that might bite me later.
• 50:57
  But right now it's what I have to do.
• 50:59
  It is that goddess civilization thing like radiating out from
• 51:03
  him and malaria and wrath is like yeah, fuck it, whatever is
• 51:06
  they like blast another cast and he takes off.
• 51:10
  He goes from Olgu and goes it's right there over to might as
• 51:15
  well. Just swing by to hish yeah.
• 51:16
  Yes, last time we saw Teklas, Tyrion was training the military
• 51:21
  forces of HISH and Teklas had like was like working on himself
• 51:25
  basically. Yeah.
• 51:26
  Yeah, he'd just like. Just working on myself.
• 51:29
  Yeah, he disappeared basically from limited society to climb
• 51:33
  his own self-imposed ladder of worth.
• 51:35
  I hate him. Yeah, our our boy has.
• 51:39
  No, there's no awareness. He has returned from his
• 51:42
  meditation. Oh.
• 51:43
  Good. With his new best friend, the
• 51:46
  moon. Right, right, I forgot.
• 51:49
  Yep, still in our spirit of the Moon and wow things looked
• 51:53
  really bad on his initially. Tyrion is an excellent general
• 51:57
  with a lot of experience fighting cast before Teklas is
• 52:00
  back now and while he's had to resort to like less magical
• 52:04
  power because demons are generally pre resistant to magic
• 52:08
  and also big magical spells are what got us in this situation
• 52:11
  right with the the weapons of mass destruction.
• 52:13
  Yeah, that. We're building, yeah.
• 52:15
  God damn it. Right, he's just starting to
• 52:18
  stabilize as well. Sigmar is pleasantly surprised
• 52:21
  that he basically went to the place that was worst off 1st.
• 52:24
  And when he gets to Hisch it is also a case of like things are
• 52:27
  still real bad on Hisch but stabilizing enough that Tyrion
• 52:31
  thinks he can hold the line by himself and Techless basically
• 52:35
  offers to go to Actually. Guy Ran is bad off but most of
• 52:40
  our cans military forces seem to be coalescing on actually.
• 52:43
  OK, so we had to go to actually. Yeah, but it's becoming
• 52:46
  increasingly clear that actually is where the big, like, final
• 52:50
  conflict, like Thanos touching down in the ocean before The
• 52:54
  Avengers show up moment is going to happen functionally.
• 52:58
  So techless is like, Yep, I'm not basically doing shit here
• 53:03
  anyways because so now she'd even speed off magic magic guys
• 53:06
  into the situation. I will go reinforce actually.
• 53:09
  Oh, Nagash is on our side. Cool.
• 53:11
  Like glad he didn't portray us immediately.
• 53:14
  Yeah, to listen, maybe the only other person in the pantheon who
• 53:19
  hates Nagash more than the Sigmar are Teklas and Tyrion,
• 53:23
  because Nagesh killed Teklas or killed Tyrion's daughter.
• 53:27
  Yeah, and Teklas watched. Yeah, Yeah, right.
• 53:31
  Yeah, OK. Is a thing that Teklas blames
• 53:33
  Nagesh for, which it is a thing he did but like.
• 53:38
  And something his followers did to bring him.
• 53:42
  Back under his advisement. Right.
• 53:43
  Yeah. But like, you knew it was gonna
• 53:46
  happen you. Let you actually, you actually
• 53:48
  specifically let it happen. Yeah, tactless.
• 53:51
  It's it's yeah, you, yes, that's Nagash, but Nagash was just
• 53:56
  grabbing folks. Yeah, yes, basically.
• 53:59
  Yeah, this wasn't a targeted attack for you.
• 54:01
  It actually was. It was a specific and
• 54:04
  intentional choice to let her specifically die, yes.
• 54:09
  A little bit of that Teklian deflection, I always know it's
• 54:11
  right thing, but Tekla said to actually Sigmar confident Tyrion
• 54:17
  can all hold the arcway moves on.
• 54:20
  He says basically like, OK, I've been everywhere but Shaman and
• 54:24
  Gur yet it's been a minute. I'm going to go check and see
• 54:27
  how Dracothian's doing. So goes to Gur.
• 54:30
  Dracothian and his children have managed to not like calm
• 54:36
  Gorkamorka down but at least like pull him away from civilian
• 54:39
  population basically. So he's just like smashing trees
• 54:43
  flat and like tearing up continents.
• 54:47
  Once Sigmar arrives they finally have enough like force basically
• 54:52
  to just point at a realm gate to actually and like.
• 54:58
  Send him. Charge him through it.
• 54:59
  Yeah, okay. Basically, Yeah, okay.
• 55:01
  Yeah, Dracothian and his children stay behind to protect
• 55:05
  the MA gate so that our can can get to it.
• 55:07
  Great. Giant.
• 55:08
  Giant dragon the size of the sky and his two kids.
• 55:11
  Yeah, perfect. And a bunch of orcs follow Gorka
• 55:15
  through the realm gates to actually, even if Gorka is on a
• 55:18
  rampage, a lot of the orcs understand the stakes.
• 55:21
  This is a weird situation where like the orcs themselves are
• 55:23
  more in line with what's going on.
• 55:25
  And they're just like, Yep, we're we're ready to defend the
• 55:28
  world. That's what we, a lot of us
• 55:29
  considered all that monster fighting like Precursor 2.
• 55:33
  Oh, I like that. We're going to go reinforce.
• 55:35
  Yeah, absolutely. Like I said, the orcs don't want
• 55:36
  the world to destroy, because then who would make sandcastles
• 55:39
  to kick over? Yeah.
• 55:40
  Like chaos doesn't make sandcastles.
• 55:43
  Exactly, Chaos is just nothing. And then finally Sigmar makes
• 55:49
  his way to Shimon, the first realm outside of Vizier that he
• 55:53
  visited when he first got to the moral realms where he found the
• 55:56
  brothers changed up the dwarfing gods.
• 55:58
  Grunny is around by the way. During all this.
• 56:00
  We don't really know like what he's doing other than like
• 56:03
  putting like supplies in the hands of soldiers and whatnot.
• 56:06
  The maker God rolling like cannons to the front line and
• 56:10
  stuff. But of all of the realms like
• 56:17
  organizing their own defense, Shaman is the only one without.
• 56:21
  It's like native God because Grungy is often as he are doing
• 56:25
  his own thing where a chaos got emerged of its own volition.
• 56:29
  Yeah, not great. That has like managed to secure
• 56:33
  its own realm gate or its own all gate.
• 56:35
  The Carodron, for all their faults, have absolutely taken it
• 56:40
  to zinch like. OK, on the team, all right.
• 56:43
  Absolutely. Like they got put on the back
• 56:45
  foot. They recognized that they it is
• 56:49
  their fault that this happened and they have mobile.
• 56:52
  Yeah, right. Wow, I'm so proud.
• 56:54
  That doesn't make it for the capitalism thing, but I'm so
• 56:59
  proud of. Right, they're doing like Sigmar
• 57:01
  shows up to Shaman and it is like a World War 2 documentary.
• 57:06
  There are just gunboats like zipping all over the place
• 57:09
  blasting demons out of the air. I missed it in HISH actually.
• 57:15
  But as as Sigmar goes to the realms he ends up slaying 4
• 57:20
  major demons. We mentioned the Nergal one in
• 57:22
  Guy Ran. There's one in Hish that he
• 57:25
  helps names kill. He names, he kills a keeper of
• 57:30
  secret named Luxus. OK, sure.
• 57:33
  Yeah. All right.
• 57:33
  Whatever. And on back on Akshi, he killed
• 57:39
  a Bloodthirster named Ingrath. Yeah.
• 57:46
  OK. Yeah, the care drawner holding
• 57:49
  out on Shaman pretty well, but there is this Lord of Change
• 57:53
  that has been giving them issue. Sigmar shows up, kills this Lord
• 57:56
  of Change, Chianthrus. Yeah.
• 58:01
  And with that Lord of Change dead, the carriage on push back
• 58:05
  the tide. They bring so carriage on up
• 58:08
  right out of what are called sky ports.
• 58:10
  They're basically these cities that are rigged with their like,
• 58:12
  airship technology so they can just like float across the
• 58:15
  realms. They just bring a bunch of sky
• 58:18
  ports down around the gate to like exist as like floating
• 58:22
  fortresses basically to defend it.
• 58:25
  And Sigmar basically, like feels hope at the situation.
• 58:29
  He's like, OK, like Iran, we're going to have to like, redirect
• 58:32
  more forces at once. We clear up what's going on in
• 58:34
  actually like action and Iran are a huge issue right now.
• 58:37
  But like, I think it worked. Like I think the Pantheon
• 58:41
  worked. Right.
• 58:42
  But this and this is, this is what we're still at the
• 58:44
  beginning of the age of Chaos, right, Correct.
• 58:47
  OK. Yeah, get a little dramatic
• 58:49
  irony for the. Audience here, it's like, and
• 58:51
  you're sitting there in Avengers Infinity War and you're like,
• 58:55
  well, they're gonna do it. But then you remember, hey, hold
• 58:58
  on. This was originally a Part 1,
• 59:00
  Part 2 movie. Right, right.
• 59:03
  There's another one coming out next year.
• 59:07
  But Sigmar is feeling that end of the first Avengers movie for
• 59:09
  sure He he takes a realm gate back to actually it seems like
• 59:16
  with Sigmar reinforcing the realms and the realms holding
• 59:19
  their own against like the dispersed kind of like attack
• 59:22
  multiple fronts tactic. Arcane has redirected the forces
• 59:26
  of chaos. They are all converging on
• 59:28
  actually to try and take its all gate until the forces of order
• 59:32
  have to respond in kind. And so Sigmar and this is
• 59:36
  literally like that scene from Avengers end game where
• 59:39
  everybody comes through the portals like Sigmar and legions
• 59:43
  of undead and orcs and dwarves like some carradron, like sky
• 59:48
  ships coming through there like sky realm gates and elves and
• 59:53
  like fire slayers does. Everybody is showing up to this
• 59:56
  big fight for the the protection of the world, and Sigmar
• 1:00:03
  arrives. And if they start to turn the
• 1:00:08
  tide, like demons and castle line mortals and chaos warriors
• 1:00:14
  are all also pouring in from Rome gates to their realms or
• 1:00:18
  portals into the realm of chaos or what have you.
• 1:00:21
  But the forces of order are holding them.
• 1:00:22
  There's that kind of like odd company like moment of like
• 1:00:28
  humans with Pikes, just like holding the line as orcs
• 1:00:31
  sweeping from the side and just like clobber people, carriage on
• 1:00:36
  gun lines coming in and shooting down cavalry coming in on like
• 1:00:40
  vulnerable elf flanks. It really does feel like, yeah,
• 1:00:43
  just like this is everything everyone was building towards.
• 1:00:46
  This is the thing that like, we were here to do.
• 1:00:50
  Sigmar swelling with power. This is everybody coming
• 1:00:53
  together to succeed at something.
• 1:00:56
  Archaeon commands portals opened into the realm of Chaos.
• 1:01:01
  He diverted basically a bunch of sacrifices of both mortals and
• 1:01:07
  demons into the Realm of Chaos to supercharge the regeneration
• 1:01:11
  of those four greater demons that Sigmar killed.
• 1:01:14
  He did the thing that Archaeon is best at, which is convinced
• 1:01:17
  the gods to work together, and he 6 those four greater demons
• 1:01:23
  on the forces of order at once instead of letting Sigmar kill
• 1:01:27
  them one at a time. Sigmar springs into battle.
• 1:01:31
  He keeps the mortals fighting the mortals battle and he goes
• 1:01:35
  to fight those four greater demons.
• 1:01:37
  He's still powerful, but four greater demons is 4 greater
• 1:01:40
  demons. So he's we're definitely getting
• 1:01:42
  the like anime finale, like dodging blows here, ducking
• 1:01:45
  blows there, swing the hammer. It's like, yeah, he beat him
• 1:01:48
  once, but he's fresh now. He beat them all three and these
• 1:01:50
  ones are all super fresh. Yep, absolutely.
• 1:01:52
  While Sigmar's fighting the Tetrax, he is there.
• 1:01:57
  There's listen, Sigmar's got trauma, and part of him still
• 1:02:02
  doesn't believe that this is a fight that they can win.
• 1:02:05
  Oh no, you can't have. Yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Didn't ever work through the trauma.
• 1:02:09
  No, he's done this fight before. He knows how it ends, and so
• 1:02:13
  he's pushing back against that doubt.
• 1:02:16
  And one of the things driving that source of doubt is that,
• 1:02:21
  like, empowerment that he is receiving from belief because he
• 1:02:25
  is empowered by civilization, because he's empowered by people
• 1:02:27
  working together. He knows that if this fight goes
• 1:02:30
  on too long, he's going to lose that, like, things are going to
• 1:02:35
  get bad, people are going to lose.
• 1:02:37
  Faith that working together is the solution for the situation.
• 1:02:42
  Yeah. Faith that they can win.
• 1:02:44
  And Sigmar is not going to be able to perform where he is now.
• 1:02:48
  He is desperate to end of this fight, basically.
• 1:02:52
  And Right as that feeling is kind of cresting as he fights
• 1:02:58
  these four greater demons, something happens in the
• 1:03:02
  fighting below that makes him go God damn it, I knew it.
• 1:03:09
  Every undead. Of God damn it, I knew.
• 1:03:13
  It every undead of field in unison looks to Sigmar and calls
• 1:03:20
  him Soul Thief and then crumbles This.
• 1:03:27
  Bitch. So we we don't know if Nagash
• 1:03:33
  knew beforehand and wanted to bait Sigmar into thinking he was
• 1:03:37
  in a better position because he's petty like that.
• 1:03:40
  We don't know if Nagash found out during this moment, but
• 1:03:45
  you'll remember part of Nagash and Sigmar's deal was that
• 1:03:48
  Nagash got the souls of the dead.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah. He was allowed to fully embody
• 1:03:51
  his domain. Yeah, Sigmar has been keeping
• 1:03:54
  human souls. Yes, Sigmar explicitly broke
• 1:04:01
  their deal. Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  And so Nagash finds out again, either before and like tricked
• 1:04:07
  him to be petty, or finds out in the moment and says, actually I
• 1:04:12
  think my resources are better spent defending Shayish.
• 1:04:16
  Like keeping my home. You can have your little fight
• 1:04:19
  out there, recalls his forces to Shayesh pulls his influence back
• 1:04:23
  from the realms and closes himself off in the realm of
• 1:04:28
  death. This.
• 1:04:33
  Bitch, it's yeah, they had a deal, yeah.
• 1:04:36
  It's a little bit of that cyclical thing where like Sigmar
• 1:04:40
  felt justified in doing that because he didn't trust Nagash.
• 1:04:44
  Yeah. And.
• 1:04:46
  Which like also fair because like it's really sucks to go to
• 1:04:50
  the place where Nagash is in charge of everything.
• 1:04:53
  So Sigma is like, well, I'm going to take care of the ones
• 1:04:54
  that are mine. But much like the elves running
• 1:04:57
  out over here being like, we want the elf souls.
• 1:04:59
  So like, OK. So it's like.
• 1:05:02
  Just notice, he said. Who have noticed there weren't
• 1:05:05
  any human souls coming in. Sigma hasn't been keeping all
• 1:05:08
  human souls. What?
• 1:05:09
  What? He's just been, he's just been
• 1:05:12
  taking some and we don't know why yet, but we're going to find
• 1:05:15
  out soon, OK. But he has been keeping some,
• 1:05:17
  OK. And that is as little as it
• 1:05:21
  might be. We don't know how many souls, as
• 1:05:23
  little as it might be. It is a break of the deal.
• 1:05:25
  It broke the deal. Yep.
• 1:05:26
  And so yeah, that that cycle of mistrust, like rears exactly had
• 1:05:31
  a rare fault in Sigmar's like God of civilization thing.
• 1:05:35
  And he knows immediately when the gash is talking about that
• 1:05:38
  doubt of him being able to hold on to this like level of power.
• 1:05:43
  That's a crack in it and break. But that's a crack in it.
• 1:05:46
  You did the selfish thing about the everyone working together
• 1:05:49
  thing. But he keeps up that fight.
• 1:05:51
  He slays the Bloodthirster again.
• 1:05:53
  He slays the grand clean one again.
• 1:05:55
  He's just locked in combat with the Keeper secrets and the Lord
• 1:05:59
  of Change and eventually even those fall by his hammer.
• 1:06:02
  But he is exhausted. He is empowered by divine power
• 1:06:07
  magic, but he's exhausted. His like mortal followers are
• 1:06:11
  faltering. Sigmar has font and font and
• 1:06:15
  font. He redirects his efforts to
• 1:06:17
  aiding like the mortals trying to turn the tie back on them and
• 1:06:22
  Dan RK on arrives. It's the fucking power
• 1:06:25
  tournament in Dragon Ball Z Super where fucking universe 7
• 1:06:29
  has to deal with everyone elses bullshit all coming on strong
• 1:06:33
  and fucking what's his face just looks like a big toe.
• 1:06:39
  Jiren. Fucking Jiren has just been
• 1:06:41
  hanging back knowing he's the biggest baddest dude on the
• 1:06:44
  whole thing. Doesn't fight my knowledge.
• 1:06:46
  Didn't fight a single person the whole 48 minutes of the
• 1:06:48
  tournament. And then once everyone else has
• 1:06:50
  been cleared out, now he shows up to fight fucking Goku and
• 1:06:54
  Vegeta and Frieza and 17 after they have spent the whole time
• 1:06:59
  fighting other people. And he's like, well, now I'm
• 1:07:01
  going to roll up and be like, yeah, you can't beat me.
• 1:07:04
  I'm so much stronger than you. It's like, maybe if we had tag
• 1:07:06
  team 48 minutes ago, this would be a different story.
• 1:07:08
  I'm not impressed. Yeah, I hey RK on is a master
• 1:07:13
  strategist. Yeah, I mean, he was right.
• 1:07:15
  He was smart to do this. But I'm still like, don't boast
• 1:07:18
  about how you could never beat me.
• 1:07:19
  I bet they could have 40. Actually they couldn't have 48
• 1:07:22
  minutes ago because it took the 45 minutes for Goku to access
• 1:07:26
  that. Like Super Saiyan instinct move
• 1:07:30
  but like whatever. It's more than anything Arcana's
• 1:07:35
  master tactician. More than anything, he is a
• 1:07:37
  victim of prophecy. It always had to be like this.
• 1:07:41
  God versus man, betrayed and betrayer.
• 1:07:45
  When the Old world died, it went down with Sigmar and Archaeon
• 1:07:47
  still fighting in the eye of the storm.
• 1:07:50
  It always had to happen like this.
• 1:07:54
  Meeting in the skies above the world that was.
• 1:07:57
  Archaeon takes the field alongside the circles of
• 1:08:00
  Varengaard. They sweep down to the mortal
• 1:08:02
  forces. Sigmar wages options.
• 1:08:08
  He doesn't think he can risk an open fight.
• 1:08:10
  He's exhausted. He knows that any slip and all
• 1:08:15
  that power will drain away as people lose confidence.
• 1:08:18
  He has no idea what Arcan is capable of now.
• 1:08:22
  They've got to a standstill last time, and Arcan has killed other
• 1:08:25
  worlds since then. He watches Arcan's movements.
• 1:08:30
  He waits for Dorgar to commit to like a charge at him, and with a
• 1:08:37
  movement faster than any mortal could ever track, he throws
• 1:08:43
  Gamma Raz directly at Archaeon's head.
• 1:08:45
  Oh shit. Cracks the sound barrier like
• 1:08:48
  deafens everyone in a mile radius.
• 1:08:51
  Yeah. Slings it ear shattering crack
• 1:08:55
  of Thunder speed it no mortal creature could dodge right into
• 1:08:58
  the face of the ever chosen did. You just fucking catch it.
• 1:09:03
  But Arcan isn't just any mortal champions, and he knows Sigmar
• 1:09:09
  very, very well. Archaeon remembers in every
• 1:09:16
  waking night and in every person he puts to the sword the event
• 1:09:21
  that set him down this path. Oh shit, here we go.
• 1:09:24
  He remembers a scared boy in a temple with a priest telling him
• 1:09:30
  that the best thing for the world was to nip a problem in
• 1:09:33
  the bud before it could happen. He knows for certain that Sigmar
• 1:09:42
  is a person who will try and end a problem before it can become a
• 1:09:46
  bigger problem. Yes, and as Gamma Raz passes
• 1:09:50
  through the illusion of Archaeon conjured.
• 1:09:54
  Nice, that has some Luke Skywalker shit.
• 1:09:56
  That is into the portal that Archaeon conjured to send it.
• 1:10:02
  Who cares? Somewhere else.
• 1:10:04
  Just walking by. Yeah, I took your toy.
• 1:10:09
  He didn't even take any joy in it.
• 1:10:11
  He was just he was almost disappointed that this is still
• 1:10:16
  the God of civilization choosing to solve his problems with
• 1:10:20
  violence right at their start than doing anything else.
• 1:10:26
  OK, man, like. Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  That doesn't feel like you're really trying to mirror the
• 1:10:33
  situations. I don't think that I think we're
• 1:10:37
  really we're really letting your trauma color the whole thing
• 1:10:41
  rather than like, you know, this isn't the same as then.
• 1:10:43
  I mean yes it's a bad but I will say you literally on a
• 1:10:48
  battlefield for sure. It's not like you showed up and
• 1:10:52
  at his like own temple and like waving a white flag for a peace
• 1:10:56
  treaty and he threw the hammer at you.
• 1:10:59
  The the circumstances are different.
• 1:11:00
  The justification is certainly different, but Arcan reads
• 1:11:04
  Sigma. Arcan does, yeah.
• 1:11:06
  I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying.
• 1:11:08
  He sees right through the God who would damn a child for the
• 1:11:12
  sentence that he would come in the future.
• 1:11:13
  I mean, yes. Cameras flies through a portal,
• 1:11:18
  gone. No idea where it went.
• 1:11:20
  Incredible. Every allied force, or every
• 1:11:24
  single person in the allied armies of order watches Sigmar
• 1:11:28
  throw his hammer away into nothing.
• 1:11:31
  That. Would be a problem that would be
• 1:11:33
  a bit demoralizing for the troops.
• 1:11:35
  Absolutely every soldier. The light fades from their eyes.
• 1:11:42
  This was a fight before. This was God versus man.
• 1:11:46
  This was something that they all thought they could win.
• 1:11:48
  And the hammer is God gone. Their God is demoralized.
• 1:11:54
  They ever chosen this bearing down upon them.
• 1:11:58
  And Sigmar fades that strength of civilization.
• 1:12:05
  I'm laughing. But yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:09
  Everything. Oh no, it all went wrong.
• 1:12:13
  Who could have predicted? We tell it anyways?
• 1:12:16
  The light leaves their eyes, and Sigmar just.
• 1:12:22
  He doesn't know what to do. Yeah, what do you do?
• 1:12:24
  Did. This whole he's been picturing
• 1:12:27
  this fight in his head, he's been picturing this moment in
• 1:12:30
  his head, and now it's just all gone wrong.
• 1:12:32
  He could still try and fight Archaeon, but he's disempowered.
• 1:12:36
  He doesn't have his hammer anymore.
• 1:12:39
  That's a fight he basically knows he would lose.
• 1:12:42
  And as like everything turns to hell beneath him, he weighs his
• 1:12:51
  options and he makes a choice. And it is a choice that will
• 1:12:59
  haunt him for the rest of existence.
• 1:13:01
  Oh no. He orders a retreat.
• 1:13:05
  Yeah, I thought he was just going to run and disappear, so
• 1:13:09
  at least ordering everyone to retreat, OK.
• 1:13:12
  He, he turns to the the remaining like peoples of Azir,
• 1:13:16
  and he says back to the gate like abandoned, abandoned your
• 1:13:20
  plant place. We're going back to Azir.
• 1:13:24
  And they do. Sigmar defends their retreat
• 1:13:27
  from mortal foes. Archaon is reveling in fighting
• 1:13:31
  like Gorkamorca and Techless, just doing as much damage as he
• 1:13:35
  can. Sigmar's the grand prize.
• 1:13:38
  He doesn't want to fight him like this.
• 1:13:39
  He'll no later. Yeah, there's, there's no joy in
• 1:13:43
  that. He's his murder soul mate, he
• 1:13:45
  can't do it like this. Sigmar leads the 12 tribes of
• 1:13:51
  Azir back through the Ignis Gate to Azir, and he closes it behind
• 1:13:57
  him. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:00
  Seals every gate to Azir, pass it off from the other realms
• 1:14:06
  completely. Yeah.
• 1:14:09
  The only place Chaos hasn't touched, the only place that's
• 1:14:12
  safe. They can't risk it now.
• 1:14:15
  It's the last chance they have to push back at some point.
• 1:14:20
  Sigmar abandons. Everyone.
• 1:14:28
  God of civilization. This did not work.
• 1:14:34
  No, we had a moment there. We thought it might go right,
• 1:14:40
  but it was arcane RK and knew him too well.
• 1:14:44
  He read him like a book. He played off of the error that
• 1:14:49
  he knew Sigmar would make, and Sigmar can't.
• 1:14:52
  The part of the reason why he just closes the gates to his
• 1:14:54
  ear, he can't handle it. Sigmar is perfectly aware that
• 1:14:58
  he just lost them this war. Yeah.
• 1:15:01
  Oof oof. And he he just pictures again,
• 1:15:05
  like he gets back to Azir and the world that was like the dead
• 1:15:08
  corpse of it still hangs above Azir, like he goes back to the
• 1:15:13
  realm gate and he sees it there and he just can't handle it.
• 1:15:18
  No, he. He retreats to Azir Heim.
• 1:15:20
  He locks himself away. We don't hear from Sigmar again
• 1:15:25
  for a long time. I'm sure.
• 1:15:27
  Yeah. I mean, yeah, what can you do?
• 1:15:32
  What can you do? This is going to be important a
• 1:15:35
  little bit later, but the last person through the Ignis Gate
• 1:15:39
  back into his ear is a man named Bastian Carthelos.
• 1:15:42
  Great name. He's important.
• 1:15:43
  Later, Sigmar affectionately refers to him as Bastian the
• 1:15:46
  Late because he was the last person through the gate back to
• 1:15:49
  his ear. I think it's only late if you
• 1:15:52
  didn't get through before it locked, right?
• 1:15:54
  He got there on time. Bastion kicks ass right as the
• 1:15:57
  like last of the people were crossing back into Azir,
• 1:15:59
  Archaeon did eventually turn his like attention on it.
• 1:16:02
  Bastion fought off Archaeon. What?
• 1:16:07
  Bastion fought as a mortal man. Bastion fought Archaeon away
• 1:16:11
  from the gate, prevented him. From long enough for everyone
• 1:16:15
  else to get through. OK, Bastion.
• 1:16:18
  The late seems a little rude now, affectionately.
• 1:16:22
  It's, it's a, it's a jokey nickname, right?
• 1:16:25
  Like, ha ha, you're, you were the last person to the game.
• 1:16:28
  I recognize that's because you were being a hero.
• 1:16:30
  Yeah, but OK, OK. Grievously injured.
• 1:16:33
  Taken to Azirheim to recover, but he'll be important later.
• 1:16:37
  OK, Bastion. OK, they're kind of bastion.
• 1:16:40
  Yes, we love Bastion. Oh, I love Bastion so much.
• 1:16:43
  One detour. I said we don't see Sigmar again
• 1:16:45
  for a little bit. That's kind of true.
• 1:16:47
  The people of Azir don't see Sigmar again for a little bit.
• 1:16:49
  In his grief, there is one other emotion that's just kind of
• 1:16:54
  right here in the pit of his chest that he's he's nurturing a
• 1:16:58
  little bit, and that is uncontrollable rage and the
• 1:17:02
  gash. So he orders all of the drone
• 1:17:07
  gates to his ear closed. Cool.
• 1:17:09
  Before they close the last realm gate to Shayish, Sigmar goes
• 1:17:14
  through. OK Sigmar blames himself for
• 1:17:18
  losing. That battle is called the Battle
• 1:17:22
  of Burning Skies. Great.
• 1:17:23
  Name. Yeah, right.
• 1:17:24
  Super good. Sigmar blames himself for that.
• 1:17:27
  He blames the war in blames the start of that downturn, the
• 1:17:32
  thing that made him desperate enough to throw the hammer on
• 1:17:35
  Nagash, pulling his forces, Yeah, from the fight.
• 1:17:38
  Not the time to be a petty bitch.
• 1:17:39
  You could be a petty bitch after you win.
• 1:17:41
  Absolutely. Sigmar does not go to Shayish to
• 1:17:44
  try and save the All Gate. He does not go there for
• 1:17:46
  tactical reasons. He does not go there to like,
• 1:17:48
  try and reinforce the hordes of undead.
• 1:17:51
  He goes there and he carves an absolute bloody swath of holy
• 1:17:55
  power through billions of undead.
• 1:17:57
  He is just letting out all of his frustration and rage, all of
• 1:18:01
  that playing nice he did during the Age of Myth, putting all the
• 1:18:05
  grievances aside. It's over now.
• 1:18:07
  Absolutely, he is letting out every single negative like trait
• 1:18:11
  and thought and interaction he has been holding back all this
• 1:18:13
  time on hordes of skeletons. He grabs a bunch of like, people
• 1:18:21
  who are loyal to Nagashi souls and just takes them back to
• 1:18:24
  Azir. OK, that guy we mentioned in the
• 1:18:26
  Nagashi episode, The current general of Nagashi's ground
• 1:18:29
  forces. Yeah, Catacoris orfarion.
• 1:18:32
  Yeah, Orpheon. Sigmar fucking plucks his soul
• 1:18:35
  from his body and takes it back to his ear and throws it in a
• 1:18:38
  prison cell so that Nagash won't have him anymore.
• 1:18:42
  Just takes away 1 of Nagash's toys.
• 1:18:44
  Yeah, absolutely. Literally.
• 1:18:46
  Just like, Nope, this is, this is the price you're paying for
• 1:18:50
  your betrayal. Like, I know I this is partially
• 1:18:53
  my fault, but this is not thoughtful.
• 1:18:56
  Like thinking it through, Sigmar, this is exacting petty
• 1:19:00
  vengeance for everything. Basically, this is Sigmar having
• 1:19:05
  a meltdown. Basically.
• 1:19:06
  And like, I get it, I get it. No plan, no advantage in the
• 1:19:11
  war, just mad takes. Like I said, takes Catacoris
• 1:19:15
  takes a couple other people. We don't know a ton of them, but
• 1:19:18
  catacoris is important. That is.
• 1:19:21
  The rest of the fighting obviously goes wrong.
• 1:19:24
  Techless retreats to Hish when it seems like they can no longer
• 1:19:28
  hold actually Gorka. Murka fights and fights and
• 1:19:31
  fights, but eventually has to retreat to gore as well.
• 1:19:34
  Actually use all Gate is the one to fall.
• 1:19:37
  Archaeon claims the all points and leads campaigns into other
• 1:19:41
  realms from there. Shit, yes.
• 1:19:44
  Yeah, it was the fucking plan. Yep.
• 1:19:46
  Yikes. Sigmar retreating to his ear and
• 1:19:49
  sealing the gates is the event that starts the Age of Chaos.
• 1:19:53
  Yeah, yeah, cuz it sounds like Chaos is running the show
• 1:19:57
  everywhere else. Yep, the humans left in the
• 1:20:00
  realm outside of his ear universally pretty much adopt
• 1:20:03
  the stance. Sigmar betrayed us.
• 1:20:06
  Sigmar left us when it was most important.
• 1:20:08
  Archaon gets some great recruiting for a little while.
• 1:20:12
  Even those who don't willingly follow Chaos turn like third
• 1:20:16
  path. Just like we're done with all
• 1:20:19
  this. Like we are loyal to.
• 1:20:20
  Yeah, yeah. Darkos, absolutely.
• 1:20:22
  A ton of the Darkos are explicitly people who still hold
• 1:20:25
  drudges even in the modern day against what Sigmar did.
• 1:20:28
  Like passed down through generations who had to turn to
• 1:20:32
  Chaos to survive. Archaeon personally leads
• 1:20:35
  campaigns into Hish causing Tyrion and Techless to have to
• 1:20:40
  like retreat. Like Techless pulse Tyrion into
• 1:20:43
  the spirit world with him to hide with Thelanar.
• 1:20:46
  But Tyrion was pissed. Absolutely shaman, just like the
• 1:20:51
  carradron hide in the clouds, they try and like escape
• 1:20:55
  wherever they can. A bunch of them die and any
• 1:20:58
  remnants of like ground based dwarven empires or just
• 1:21:01
  annihilated Guy Ran goes back to being wholly controlled by
• 1:21:06
  Nergal. Basically that little enclave
• 1:21:07
  they carved out taken away. The Lady of Vines digs up a
• 1:21:11
  Laurel seed pod and carries it again.
• 1:21:13
  She will protect that seed pod for the entirety of the Realm of
• 1:21:15
  K or Age of Chaos. Damn, good for her.
• 1:21:17
  Yeah, right. She sounds awesome.
• 1:21:19
  She's a visual of her we. Do have a visual of?
• 1:21:21
  The I would like to see a visual of the Lady of Vines.
• 1:21:24
  Please I request a visual of the Lady of Vines.
• 1:21:26
  Yes, I definitely typed the lady of vibes.
• 1:21:31
  I would also like to see a visual of the Lady of Vibes.
• 1:21:33
  Lady of vibes, absolutely. This is the Lady of Vines.
• 1:21:37
  Oh shit, she's even cooler than I was picturing.
• 1:21:40
  She's very cool. She's.
• 1:21:42
  So cool, I love someone. You said tree lady and so I was
• 1:21:45
  definitely picturing more tree than lady right, because I feel
• 1:21:48
  like sometimes it is more thing than other thing, but like no,
• 1:21:52
  she's perfectly balanced yes, that's very cool.
• 1:21:56
  She's. So cool OK literally just
• 1:21:58
  picture those vines like wrapped around her back carrying Alario
• 1:22:00
  soap on for the entirety of the realm of chaos.
• 1:22:03
  She is just like hiding in Burrows, like climbing through
• 1:22:06
  the trees, like constantly on the just.
• 1:22:07
  Protecting her goddess. Absolutely right.
• 1:22:10
  Like it's so cool. That's.
• 1:22:12
  That's very less Centurion. It's very.
• 1:22:16
  Cool. OLGU holds out.
• 1:22:17
  OK, During the Realm of Chaos or the Age of Chaos, malaria and
• 1:22:21
  Marathi basically just keep doing their thing.
• 1:22:23
  They cloak themselves in shadows.
• 1:22:24
  They keep themselves safe from the forces of chaos to strike
• 1:22:27
  them when they can. But like, Chaos nominally
• 1:22:30
  controls Olgu and that they, like, take control of what
• 1:22:32
  cities and stuff exist. But they don't get to malaria
• 1:22:35
  and Marathi. They were never going to.
• 1:22:37
  And occasionally a bunch of them disappear in the night.
• 1:22:40
  Yeah, that's what malaria and Marathi do.
• 1:22:43
  That's cool. Yeah.
• 1:22:44
  Listen, here's the thing. I like Malaria and Marathi.
• 1:22:49
  They were up to some shady shit in the past.
• 1:22:51
  But like, they did not. Well, they did fuck around and
• 1:22:57
  find out with the whole capturing, but that's not the
• 1:23:00
  reason Sunesh got out of the Celestia.
• 1:23:02
  Demons got in. Yep.
• 1:23:06
  And we had Sigmar out here being like, I'm going to break the one
• 1:23:10
  deal I have with the evil death God.
• 1:23:13
  So how can I also continue to be mad about the whole, yeah, you
• 1:23:15
  have a demon shamed, right? It is actually in no way the
• 1:23:18
  reason the Age of Chaos played out.
• 1:23:20
  This actually has worked out fine for them so far.
• 1:23:24
  I was going to say surprise to everyone, including Marathi.
• 1:23:28
  This wasn't Marathi's fault. This was not Marathi.
• 1:23:31
  His fault. Honest.
• 1:23:32
  And she's also submitted the one warning the other dudes.
• 1:23:35
  Yep, these will not last forever.
• 1:23:36
  You need a second plan. Yep, if there's any absolute
• 1:23:40
  truth, it's that Marathi is always right according to
• 1:23:44
  Marathi. But also according to like a lot
• 1:23:47
  of the evidence we have. Honestly, honestly, Marathi's
• 1:23:49
  got a good track record so far. Yeah, she had the whole chaos
• 1:23:52
  cult thing in the old world. But listen, people can change.
• 1:23:54
  Listen, people, listen. We listen.
• 1:23:56
  We believe in gross. Yeah.
• 1:23:57
  Probably is perfect. Probably is perfect.
• 1:24:01
  Gur also deals like OK with the age of chaos.
• 1:24:04
  Gur is already like an immensely hostile place like as far as the
• 1:24:07
  orcs are concerned, it's just we have less like huge boar to hunt
• 1:24:11
  and more people in spiky armor to hunt.
• 1:24:13
  Like Gurd is basically OK. We see the emergence of one of
• 1:24:17
  my favorite characters in the Age of Sigmoor during the Age of
• 1:24:19
  Chaos and Gur Gorka Morca Chaos builds like a chaos fortress and
• 1:24:23
  Gur Gorka Morca so mad that he just like punches it flat, which
• 1:24:29
  is so funny, but it's it's like a warp stone reinforced chaos
• 1:24:33
  Fort. And so he actually cracks his
• 1:24:34
  knuckle bone while punching it flat, and that knuckle bone
• 1:24:38
  embeds itself in the earth and grows an orc.
• 1:24:40
  Yeah, knuckle bone embeds itself in the earth and grows an orc.
• 1:24:45
  I fucking love mythology. Tell me more Dalton, what is the
• 1:24:52
  knuckle borne orc name? That orc is named Gordrac, the
• 1:24:55
  Fist of Gork. Of course, his name is Gordrac.
• 1:25:00
  And he is the preeminent orc philosopher of our time.
• 1:25:03
  He's he's he's clever for an orc.
• 1:25:05
  He knows, yeah, he knows the nature of a Gorkamarka.
• 1:25:08
  He, like, is actually trying to, like, unite them and bring them
• 1:25:12
  back together. Another thing that happens
• 1:25:13
  during the Age of Chaos is that we talked about that like,
• 1:25:16
  Gorkamark used to be two entities.
• 1:25:17
  And when all the orc tribes are getting along, they fuse into
• 1:25:20
  Gorkamarka. The York tribes go bad during
• 1:25:22
  the Age of Chaos. Obviously, everyone's fighting
• 1:25:24
  everybody. One of the most cited reasons
• 1:25:27
  why the orcs and goblins split up because they stopped like
• 1:25:30
  working together, Yeah, is a fight over a particularly shiny
• 1:25:33
  spoon, which is very them, I think you.
• 1:25:35
  Told me about that, yeah. Yeah, I think I've mentioned it
• 1:25:37
  before. Gore Drac emerges from that
• 1:25:39
  crushed cast Fort grown from Gorka Marker's knuckle bone, and
• 1:25:44
  basically makes it his mission to reunite the Orca Clan goblins
• 1:25:49
  back into the fold. Yes, absolutely.
• 1:25:51
  He's kind of the King Arthur of orcs.
• 1:25:55
  Very King Arthur, very King Kamehameha vibes.
• 1:25:58
  I love that for him. He is gifted an axe from the Old
• 1:26:02
  World by Gorkum Orca. It was the orcs at the IT was
• 1:26:06
  the orcs. It was the Axe of Grimgore
• 1:26:08
  Ironhide. Cool name, it was the.
• 1:26:10
  Orcas champion bound to Gur. Yeah, and it's not enough Chopin
• 1:26:15
  for Gordrak, so he breaks the two heads in half, splints them
• 1:26:21
  on to new halves so he has two axes instead of 1.
• 1:26:25
  Cool, so. He has more chopping good.
• 1:26:27
  For him, that sounds great. He's.
• 1:26:29
  Great. And he's going about uniting all
• 1:26:31
  the orc tribes he exists like into the modern day.
• 1:26:33
  And I love him terribly. He sounds great.
• 1:26:35
  He's. Great, but and then Shayish hold
• 1:26:39
  that for a little bit. Nagash is weakened by like
• 1:26:41
  Sigmar's rampage, but he has full control of Shayish.
• 1:26:45
  Raises the dead. He conscripts spirits into its
• 1:26:47
  defense. Not even he can hold out against
• 1:26:50
  Archaeon, especially once Archaeon is taking everything
• 1:26:53
  else and direct all of his forces.
• 1:26:56
  To yeah Nagash, maybe you could have picked a better time to get
• 1:26:58
  your petty. Like after you win then you
• 1:27:01
  actually have shit you can ask. For Archaeon and Nagash clash
• 1:27:06
  with each other at the frustration stratingly named
• 1:27:09
  Battle of Black Skies and not the Battle of Burning Skies.
• 1:27:13
  Or related to it. But it happened in Chaish, so
• 1:27:15
  they just call it that. I guess the black plains, black
• 1:27:18
  mountains, black storms, just not skies again is the real
• 1:27:22
  problem. And the fact that the adjective
• 1:27:25
  in both begins the letter B is the other problem in that.
• 1:27:28
  So like very. Easy to confuse.
• 1:27:30
  Yeah, the two clash there and Archaeon kills Nagash.
• 1:27:34
  Not permanently, because he's Nagash.
• 1:27:37
  Yeah, Yeah. You're not killed again.
• 1:27:42
  And the Gash's followers, the more tarks we talked about like
• 1:27:45
  Nephrata, the others like gather up in the Gash's remains and
• 1:27:48
  they take them out to and. They kill someone else's niece
• 1:27:51
  to bring him back. They take him out to the edges
• 1:27:53
  of Shahish where the death magic is the most powerful to like,
• 1:27:56
  help him regenerate basically. But yeah.
• 1:28:00
  Then if you want the job, yeah. Just a thought.
• 1:28:04
  And then the world settles into a new uncomfortable like status
• 1:28:08
  quo, basically. Interesting.
• 1:28:10
  Chaos is chaos not able to destroy it all because it
• 1:28:12
  doesn't have AXI. Yes, it doesn't have a.
• 1:28:15
  Zero a zero, God damn it. And also I keep doing that.
• 1:28:18
  They're very similar and also because the mortal realms aren't
• 1:28:21
  are like made of magic, it's a lot harder to just like collapse
• 1:28:24
  them basically like headed to the old.
• 1:28:25
  World, Yeah, they could just fold it in.
• 1:28:27
  Myself, their plan is to corrupt realm gates to make them lead to
• 1:28:31
  the realm of chaos. Eventually that will just like
• 1:28:33
  pull. Everything into the realm of
• 1:28:35
  chaos. Absolutely, but that process
• 1:28:37
  takes time and it's not a thing like demons and the gods
• 1:28:41
  themselves are working towards that goal.
• 1:28:43
  But like, your average chaos follower probably probably isn't
• 1:28:45
  even aware of it. And so while Chaos conquers
• 1:28:49
  basically all the realms during the Age of Chaos, their actual
• 1:28:53
  plan for fruition takes longer than that.
• 1:28:56
  They're working on it. They corrupt a lot of realm
• 1:28:58
  gates. They don't get done with it.
• 1:29:03
  What do the what do the everyday Chaos followers think the end
• 1:29:05
  game is? Just existing.
• 1:29:08
  We're we're we're kind of in a, like I said, that new status quo
• 1:29:12
  like falls over the realms where the vast majority of chaos
• 1:29:15
  followers don't know what the chaos gods are.
• 1:29:17
  Yeah, that's just the way life is.
• 1:29:19
  Because it's OK, because I have. This episode has been so long.
• 1:29:23
  I'm so sorry. This is probably not the time to
• 1:29:24
  try to articulate this this question I have.
• 1:29:27
  How much history do people know? Do does the obviously if you're
• 1:29:34
  working directly with the gods, like I'm sure the the lady of
• 1:29:37
  vines knows the whole game, but like does the let's OK, let's
• 1:29:43
  not even do the age of chaos. It's in the age of myth.
• 1:29:46
  Does the everyday person know about the war that the world
• 1:29:49
  that was? No.
• 1:29:50
  Explicitly no. On purpose.
• 1:29:53
  Yes, Sigmar prepares them for the coming conflict.
• 1:29:56
  He does not want to mortalize people with the fact that they
• 1:29:59
  lost before, basically. That's a mistake.
• 1:30:01
  Yes, absolutely. Those who don't learn history
• 1:30:03
  are doomed to repeat it. Like no.
• 1:30:05
  It is explicitly a mistake. It is that is that is the
• 1:30:08
  mistake, because I, that is what I think would be if if everyone
• 1:30:11
  knows, hey, because Chaos wanted they in Chaos's end game is to
• 1:30:15
  destroy the world, you would have way less people who even in
• 1:30:20
  their desperation would be willing to throw in with chaos
• 1:30:23
  because yeah, maybe I get a party for 10 years, but Chaos
• 1:30:25
  still wants me dead. If you don't have the no Chaos
• 1:30:29
  wants you dead part, then it does seem like a good deal.
• 1:30:32
  Chaos just wants to destroy everything.
• 1:30:33
  But whatever, as long as I get power.
• 1:30:35
  The one exception is Techless told all of his children about
• 1:30:41
  the world it was. I don't like being put in a
• 1:30:45
  position where I'm supposed to praise Techless Dalton.
• 1:30:48
  Well, to be fair, Techless told the Luminous about the world
• 1:30:51
  that was a threat, the chaos pose, and that's what led them
• 1:30:54
  to make all those horrifying magical super weapons that
• 1:30:56
  pulled Flanesh into the realm. Right, but also also techless
• 1:31:01
  combined that with this perfectionist ladder bullshit.
• 1:31:04
  And so I I bet if we could have one and not the other, maybe we
• 1:31:08
  just have a little bit more deeper understanding of history
• 1:31:11
  and the end results of certain actions and not I got to be the
• 1:31:14
  best building weapons. Walking that line is part of the
• 1:31:19
  balancing act of like, pushing back against Chaos.
• 1:31:22
  We we see part of Sigmar's flaw in like the preparation for that
• 1:31:27
  big fight against Chaos. Just assume everybody's on the
• 1:31:29
  same page. Yes, absolutely.
• 1:31:30
  Sigmar always kind of defaults to the assumption that everyone
• 1:31:33
  is going to do what is best for others.
• 1:31:36
  That's his civilization thing, that's why he didn't check in
• 1:31:40
  with the other gods to make sure they were doing their like
• 1:31:42
  preparations right. That's why it slips past him.
• 1:31:47
  That because remember, Chaos got into the Mortal realms this
• 1:31:49
  time. Not through the dispossessed and
• 1:31:51
  downtrodden, but. Those who are already had.
• 1:31:54
  Nobility access got to them and Sigmar overlooked that because
• 1:31:59
  it's just like incomprehensible to him that someone who already
• 1:32:03
  has their needs met. Would then try and yes,
• 1:32:05
  billionaires, yeah, absolutely, Sigmar says.
• 1:32:08
  Billionaires shouldn't exist. True.
• 1:32:10
  Yeah, for sure, for the next 500 years.
• 1:32:16
  We have a measurement, yeah. OK, chaos rules.
• 1:32:19
  That's. A long time.
• 1:32:20
  It is a long time, OK, but it's not forever.
• 1:32:24
  It's not forever. This too shall pass.
• 1:32:27
  Yeah, Thankfully. Yeah.
• 1:32:29
  And not with everything passing into chaos.
• 1:32:31
  Yeah, right, Because I assume now Sigmar's gonna do a cool
• 1:32:34
  thing. Now Sigmar's gonna do a cool
• 1:32:36
  thing. We've talked about the Age of
• 1:32:38
  Myth. We've talked about the Age of
• 1:32:40
  Chaos, the third epic with an O of the setting Age of Sigmar and
• 1:32:49
  the one we currently inhabit and where all the story currently
• 1:32:52
  takes place and also the game takes place.
• 1:32:54
  Yeah, is called the Age of Sigmar, Yes.
• 1:32:57
  And that is what we're going to talk about next episode.
• 1:33:01
  Hell. Yeah, and I have just now
• 1:33:04
  realizing that I gave my like Stinger at the beginning
• 1:33:06
  describing what I was and that I didn't talk about it a little
• 1:33:08
  bit. So we're going to talk about
• 1:33:09
  that real quick right now. In the intro I said I'm your
• 1:33:12
  twin tailed comet Dalton Montgomery.
• 1:33:13
  You did say that. I did say that.
• 1:33:16
  I'm just going to briefly mention the twin tailed comet.
• 1:33:18
  The twin tailed comet was a thing from the old world.
• 1:33:21
  It was a real like astrological feature.
• 1:33:24
  It was a comet that passed over the world inconsistently.
• 1:33:28
  Inconsistently. That's so interesting.
• 1:33:31
  It didn't have a fixed orbit or like a time it would appear like
• 1:33:34
  Haley's comet does. What was it?
• 1:33:36
  It was the the Twin Tail Comet is made of warp stone and it's
• 1:33:40
  appearance signals a great and upcoming change.
• 1:33:44
  Oh, interesting. Yeah.
• 1:33:45
  It is a because warp stone is weird and it follows from belief
• 1:33:49
  and it falls from intent and it falls from magic.
• 1:33:52
  The twin tail comet has like continued to exist past the
• 1:33:55
  destruction of the world, just not physically.
• 1:33:58
  It still appears to herald great change That's.
• 1:34:01
  So man, that's so spooky. It's so.
• 1:34:04
  Spooky, spooky, so spooky. The Mortal Realms have
• 1:34:07
  experienced the twin tailed comet twice.
• 1:34:09
  First way back. I'm not going to have us go
• 1:34:12
  search for it right now, but the very first picture I like showed
• 1:34:15
  you of Age of Sigmar of the Kothian catching the world that
• 1:34:18
  was the world flying through the void of space arrives with twin
• 1:34:22
  tails. Great change.
• 1:34:25
  Sigmar arriving in the realms. When Sigmar descends from Azir
• 1:34:29
  to push back Archaeon's advance, his descent is brought with twin
• 1:34:34
  tails. That's pretty cool.
• 1:34:36
  Great change is not always good. No, that's pretty cool.
• 1:34:39
  And as 500 years come to a close in the Age of Chaos, something
• 1:34:46
  else descends from Azir for the first time in 500 years,
• 1:34:51
  heralded by 100 little specks of twin tales.
• 1:34:55
  Oh shit, oh shit. Very cool.
• 1:34:59
  But that's for next episode. So thank you as always.
• 1:35:03
  I have been your twin tailed Comet doll, Montgomery.
• 1:35:06
  And I'm Darren Smart, keep your snacks safely in the picnic
• 1:35:08
  basket. Thanks for listening.
• 1:35:11
  Take care everybody. Bye.