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Adam Schefter digs into the complicated psyche of Sean Payton · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: are joined by Adam Schefter. Adam, how are you this morning?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 3: Gentlemen, Nice to be back with you. Here we go again, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. It's great to see hey, Adam.
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  Speaker 2: I was just thinking about this in your career. Heyday.
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  Speaker 2: The days of the smile and moose are gone, buddy,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, those are absolutely history.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen.
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  Speaker 2: Anything progress more than the efficiency and the I guess
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  Speaker 2: professionalism of an NFL training camp in the last thirty years.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's not the same.
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  Speaker 4: It's not as physical, it's not as taxing like it
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  Speaker 4: used to be that there were two practices every day
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  Speaker 4: and guys would pound on each other like I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it was very physical. Now there's a ramp up, you're
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  Speaker 4: in campra a week before. There's pads, you know, I know, pads.
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  Speaker 4: It's still pads, but it's not the same that I
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  Speaker 4: remember back.
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  Speaker 3: In the day. I haven't heard the name of Smiling
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  Speaker 3: Moose in a long time. That takes me down. Memory,
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  Speaker 3: is this smiling Moose still there?
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  Speaker 1: It's gone, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But but Adam, those are the days where a member
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  Speaker 5: of the media can actually sidle up to a player
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  Speaker 5: at a place during camp.
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  Speaker 2: Me.
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  Speaker 5: You don't. It doesn't happen today. It's just there's that.
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  Speaker 5: There's no way that happens today.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just say this to you.
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  Speaker 6: One of the great fortunes, honors, privileges, learning experience in
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  Speaker 6: my career, or whatever you want to call it, was
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  Speaker 6: when I started covering the Denver Broncos in nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 6: and I spent almost sixteen years covering.
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  Speaker 4: Them, and when they trained in Greeley, Colorado, and I
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  Speaker 4: go up there every summer. I stay in the same
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  Speaker 4: dorm room and my phone uber up there was nine
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  Speaker 4: seven oh three five. It was a rotary dial phone.
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  Speaker 4: I was in there for fifteen years or fourteen years
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  Speaker 4: before they move back to dinner, and I would have
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  Speaker 4: as you remember, we would have breakfast, lunch, and dinner
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  Speaker 4: in the dining.
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  Speaker 3: Hall with the players, yep, players every meal, every meal.
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  Speaker 4: Remember, I remember walking in for breakfast, and it's always
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  Speaker 4: the most lightly attended meal. But there'd be ten of us,
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  Speaker 4: twelve of us, and I'd be sitting a couple of
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  Speaker 4: table lord from John Oh who was always written the paper.
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  Speaker 4: He was always one of the last people. And I
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  Speaker 4: always tried to go to breakfast late, so I can
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  Speaker 4: always see John.
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  Speaker 2: Like.
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  Speaker 3: The access was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: And if they didn't like something you wrote or said,
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  Speaker 5: you can discuss it. You could talk about it. It
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  Speaker 5: would be those discussions. It would take place all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you develop relationships because you're with them three meals
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  Speaker 4: a day, you're at both practices.
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  Speaker 3: You're just around and.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like you know you're spending a ton of time,
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  Speaker 4: but you're all your presence there and and so I
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  Speaker 4: just think it's very different today.
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  Speaker 3: It's why I always tell.
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  Speaker 4: People I got my undergraduate degree at Michigan, I got
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  Speaker 4: my graduate degree at Northwestern, I got my master's at
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  Speaker 4: Denver Broncos you because fifteen years being around these people
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  Speaker 4: at all times it was it was transformational for me.
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  Speaker 4: And that type of opportunity sadly doesn't exist today. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think you tell me I'm not really out of
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  Speaker 4: drinking much.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 3: It's good.
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  Speaker 5: They keep the players as distanced as far away as
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  Speaker 5: as possible. And you know, especially as you well know,
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  Speaker 5: Sean Payton likes to run the camp his way, and
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  Speaker 5: there's just they don't see any value in that anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah, they don't need it. They don't need it,
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  Speaker 3: so and they want to keep they.
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  Speaker 4: Want to control it and have things on their schedule
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  Speaker 4: and and there are rules that they have to abide by,
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  Speaker 4: which they do.
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  Speaker 3: But that's all they have to do.
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  Speaker 1: Without that ability to like belly up to there with
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  Speaker 1: a player like you were talking about going late and
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  Speaker 1: having a chat with John Elway. How do you personally
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  Speaker 1: cultivate those relationships now? Then?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, well, I'm at a different stage of my career
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  Speaker 3: right Like so.
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  Speaker 4: You know the people that I'm talking to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: front offices, coaches, I'm just.
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  Speaker 3: Texting like I'm on the phone day that I've known
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  Speaker 3: them for years.
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  Speaker 4: That's again, it's it's a blessing for covering the spot
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  Speaker 4: for thirty seven years that you've been you know, reach
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  Speaker 4: out to various people and get them like that, right
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  Speaker 4: you bet well?
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  Speaker 5: You got the Bjon Robinson story this morning, the highest
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  Speaker 5: paid running back in NFL history. Now, were you a
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  Speaker 5: little surprised over three years seventy five million?
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  Speaker 4: No? No, I think that that was exactly where you
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  Speaker 4: thought it was going to come in. And it becomes
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  Speaker 4: a room mark and a benchmark for Mr Gibbs and
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  Speaker 4: Johnason Taylor, and you know, it's about time that running
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  Speaker 4: back salaries go up, and he's the new highest peak
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  Speaker 4: and that's how it should.
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  Speaker 2: Be, you know, Adam, that's a great that's a great
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  Speaker 2: point though. So now these other guys are gonna slot
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  Speaker 2: into place, although maybe Jamir's is not Bijeon.
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  Speaker 1: But what, in your.
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  Speaker 2: Opinion, do teams just follow the market that's now been set.
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  Speaker 2: I know agents certainly do, or do teams? Is it
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  Speaker 2: really rare now for them just to hold tough on
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  Speaker 2: the number that they want to offer and that's it?
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  Speaker 2: How does that work nowadays when you have a market
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  Speaker 2: set like Bijeon?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think that's what was holding up the Gibbs
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  Speaker 4: deal basically and the Johnson Teller deal because they knew
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  Speaker 4: that they knew that Jon would come in probably with
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  Speaker 4: the highest one and and so they I think Gibbs
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  Speaker 4: and Taylor were both waiting for this deal to get done.
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  Speaker 4: And now they'll get as close to that deal possible.
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  Speaker 4: And now maybe they could even beat it. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know like the way you structure it, but if if
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  Speaker 4: they beat it, and I would bet they they're right there,
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  Speaker 4: but I'll bet they don't like I'll bet all three
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  Speaker 4: deals coming very soon.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, it'll be. And so Gibbs was gonna be
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  Speaker 3: the I mean, Jean was gonna be the first one up.
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  Speaker 3: Gibbs and Jhonathanstellar.
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  Speaker 1: The next big contract that we've been talking about, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's Riley Moss possibly playing his way out of Denver
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  Speaker 1: because they're up against the cap next year. They have
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  Speaker 1: to roll a whole bunch of things over. The obvious
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  Speaker 1: one is bo Nicks when he's off of his rookie extension.
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  Speaker 1: What does he have to do to get people on
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  Speaker 1: board with him being a fifty five possibly sixty million
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  Speaker 1: dollars quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. He's not contract eligible till after
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 4: So if the Denver Broncers have the kind of year
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  Speaker 4: that everybody's gonna want them to have, I'd be surprised
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  Speaker 4: if they didn't sit down to see if they could
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  Speaker 4: work out a deal like, that's what it's gonna be. Now,
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  Speaker 4: tell me what the year looks like for bo. Is
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  Speaker 4: he a top five quarterback? Is he a top ten quarterback?
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  Speaker 4: Top fifty? Do they get to the conference championship game?
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  Speaker 4: Do they get to the Super Bowl? Do they tell
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  Speaker 4: me what all those things are, because they'll all play
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  Speaker 4: a role in how aggressive Dever will be and what
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  Speaker 4: that deal will come in at. I think, I think
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  Speaker 4: and if he has a great year, I would think
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  Speaker 4: that they'll rush to get it done in the off
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  Speaker 4: season at the deal.
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  Speaker 3: If the year's down, there's no urgency during the off season.
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  Speaker 4: So there's so many variables that are tied up into
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  Speaker 4: his in their season.
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  Speaker 3: That's why it's a really important year for bo Nicks.
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  Speaker 5: Can I ask you a media question pertaining to Sean Payton, Adam, So,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure you've read the Seth Wickersham piece, which was Wow,
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  Speaker 5: was it long? And was it detailed? And it was wonderful.
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  Speaker 5: And as I'm reading this and it's happening all during
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  Speaker 5: the AFC Championship Week, and there's a lot of secrets
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  Speaker 5: that I'm like, Wow, I can't believe he admitted that.
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  Speaker 5: I can't believe he said that. My question to you is,
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  Speaker 5: what do you think the motivation was for Sean Payton
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  Speaker 5: to do that piece, to invite a writer embed him
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  Speaker 5: here for two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Sean obviously could best answer that question, But my guess
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  Speaker 4: would be I think sometimes Sean just likes having somebody
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  Speaker 4: as like a built in sounding board slash therapist slash
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  Speaker 4: advice or just like it's not like a fresh new voice.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it has something to do with that.
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  Speaker 4: I think it has something to do with the fact that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he believed in this team and he believe
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be a magical year, and how cool would
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  Speaker 4: it have been to have it documented.
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  Speaker 3: I believe he's proud of the work that they put in.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I have a lot of things, but I
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  Speaker 4: do think it's it's as much having just somebody to
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  Speaker 4: kind of talk to, Like Sean can be like that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like he he he'll kind of connect to
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  Speaker 4: somebody and you hear from him quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: You have a lot of conversations, you know. So, uh,
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  Speaker 3: he just.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of imported it to Denver. It was in the
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  Speaker 4: building guy was always around as a sounding board. Some
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  Speaker 4: version of that vic I would.
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  Speaker 2: Say, yeah, that makes a lot of makes a lot
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  Speaker 2: of sense. Yeah, absolutely, I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean I I just found it interesting and and and
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  Speaker 5: my answer would be I think he expected and the
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  Speaker 5: invite was probably before bo Nicks got hurt. I think
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  Speaker 5: he expected this team to go to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: And I agree with you. I think he wanted that
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  Speaker 5: documented and it didn't work out that way. And hey, listen,
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  Speaker 5: the other thing I've said about Peyton Sean Payton in
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  Speaker 5: the past, he don't like his players talking in the media.
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  Speaker 5: He don't like any of that. He'll do that, He'll
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  Speaker 5: take on that role. He'll be the uh, he'll be
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  Speaker 5: the guy that uh uh you know. Every year it
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  Speaker 5: seems he says something that becomes u topical. But he'd
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  Speaker 5: rather be him than the players themselves.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and and let's be honest, he is a very
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  Speaker 4: charismatic talker, like you could listen to him for hours,
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  Speaker 4: Like he's very insightful and educating. There are certain guys,
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  Speaker 4: there are certain hand coaches who say nothing nothing, Like
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  Speaker 4: you could listen to their press concises and there's just
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  Speaker 4: not a lot of meat there. Like Mike Shanahan was
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  Speaker 4: like that. Like Mike was brilliant, but his press conferences
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  Speaker 4: they were they were bland.
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  Speaker 3: Kyle, on the.
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  Speaker 4: Other hand, is incredible, incredible, Like if you read his
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  Speaker 4: transcripts and listen to us, it's like football tutorials.
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  Speaker 3: And Sean is the same way.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, Adam, I saw a photo of Kyle's
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  Speaker 5: face after that accident, and my goodness that has he
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  Speaker 5: been back at practice yet? Is he? When does he
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  Speaker 5: expected back?
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  Speaker 4: I've been doing things slowly but truly ramping up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's he's feeling a little bit better. We got headaches,
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  Speaker 4: but he's doing a little bit better.
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  Speaker 1: That was ugly.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, wait where you see a picture of his face?
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  Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw it. I haven't seen one yet.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's not public. Oh it's not public. No, it's
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  Speaker 5: not out there, broken orbital. No, it's you know, it's bad.
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  Speaker 5: It's bad. I mean, I mean you could tell it's
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  Speaker 5: a Sylvester Stallone Rocky three bad, one of those, one
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  Speaker 5: of those deals. So I'm just happy that he survived
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  Speaker 5: that thing and he's back to coaching, and it's a
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  Speaker 5: it's a major scare for him. And hey, before we
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  Speaker 5: let you go, Aaron Donald, any doubt in your mind
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  Speaker 5: that he's going to play football for the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 4: I talked about this in my podcast I just recorded
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  Speaker 4: about an hour ago, and I would say that we
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  Speaker 4: all certainly feel like it's trending that way. And when
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  Speaker 4: Sean mcday says it's heading the right direction and trending upward,
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  Speaker 4: I think you take.
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  Speaker 2: Note if he's yeah what.
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  Speaker 3: I do not think it is done. I do not
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  Speaker 3: think it's official. I do not think there's.
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  Speaker 4: Anything agreed upon, and I do think it's contingent upon
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Donald believing that Aaron Donald can get himself back
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  Speaker 4: to Aaron Donald for him, and if he feels like
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  Speaker 4: he can't do that, he's not gonna come back. But
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  Speaker 4: obviously he's trying to do that and he's hoping to
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  Speaker 4: do that, but he's not there yet. And I think
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  Speaker 4: everybody believes he'll get there, and everybody wants him to
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  Speaker 4: get there, but it's not there, just yet.
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  Speaker 1: Another question around the league, Adam Videvea Baker Mayfield, who
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  Speaker 1: has the better chance to get a deal done to
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  Speaker 1: stay in Tampa Bay or both of them kind of
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  Speaker 1: in their final season or final training camp with the Bucks.
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  Speaker 4: Another topic on the podcast But what I would say
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  Speaker 4: is is I don't see I don't see a Vida
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  Speaker 4: deal getting done here shortly. I do not see that
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  Speaker 4: Baker shut it down. So we'll see, but they have
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  Speaker 4: the franchise tag. I don't see anything happening with Vita
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  Speaker 4: anytime soon. I think a tree could come to play
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  Speaker 4: later in camp. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: That is ESPN senior NFL insider Adam Schefter joining us
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  Speaker 1: weekly here on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Chefty,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Good you back buddy N again you bet.
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  Speaker 1: All of our guests courtesy of the Ramos Law Altitude
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  Speaker 1: Guest Hotline live out here at Broncos Park. The sun
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  Speaker 1: is trying to peek out as we thaw out from
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  Speaker 1: our morning freeze. Yeah, Vida Bay and Baker Bay, Mayfield
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  Speaker 1: Bull shutting down contract.
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  Speaker 2: Toshes Hey man, Tampa, you're blowing it well they I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're blowing it.
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  Speaker 1: Are they just blowing it up right? Like Mike Evans,
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  Speaker 1: Leaves and Baker they feel like they've gotten the juice
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  Speaker 1: out of that squeeze.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe that's why they don't want to pay him, because
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  Speaker 5: they figure, let's just start.
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  Speaker 1: Off reset completely wipe the slate clean and like again,
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  Speaker 1: I think to a would look awesome here in a
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  Speaker 1: Broncers uniform, but they just simply can't fit him.
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  Speaker 5: It's just it talkcordd weird to me, the losing his
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  Speaker 5: franchise in in NFL history finally finds some success. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Tom Brady goes there, they go to super Bowl, win
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  Speaker 5: a super Bowl, Baker Mayfield gives him life, and now
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  Speaker 5: they want to quit. I mean, what were they before that?
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  Speaker 5: What were they?
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  Speaker 1: What a name that had creamsicle uniform?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean they wanted a Gruden.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they wanted to John Jeff Garcia there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean what were they? I mean in the
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  Speaker 5: late seventies, eighties and nineties, they were terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were the the the first coach of the
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. What's his name?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Nick John McVay.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, is that is that Sean mcvay's dad.
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  Speaker 2: No, well he was old in the late seventies, randfather,
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  Speaker 2: but could be.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Uh what do you got, Raj?
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  Speaker 5: He's looking it up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they've got a brand Sean McCay. Okay, So John, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: there you go. Roj late seventies. Reporter asked, goes like this, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: what about the execution of your offense? He says, I'm
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  Speaker 2: in favor of it.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, frug there's ever a quote or something from fifty
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  Speaker 5: years ago?
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  Speaker 2: I got you, Sure, I got it.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't know what Zara is, but he's got something
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  Speaker 5: from fifty years
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  Speaker 2: And he can take his in and beat urine, and
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  Speaker 2: he can take urine and beat his'