Latest / Coffee People Podcast / Yoshawn Smith, The Pour-Up LA & Califia Farms
Transcript
- 0:28There we go. I feel like I should have you
- 0:32introduce yourself but everyone seems to know who you are
- 0:35already. But if you wouldn't mind,
- 0:38there's only time you have to look at the camera.
- 0:40Tell everyone who you are. Yo Shawn Smith, professional
- 0:45coffee homie. We teach, learn, help out, work
- 0:51for Caliphia Farms, encourage people to do better.
- 0:57Yeah, it's all around good time and good vibes, you know?
- 1:01Yoshan has been on our show before, so he's a repeat guest,
- 1:04which you always appreciate. And I, I truly mean this.
- 1:08I look forward to seeing you at festivals like this because you
- 1:11bring all this energy. Thank you.
- 1:13And I know it's a coffee fest and everyone's like, oh, there's
- 1:15energy everywhere, but it's easy to get into festival mode and
- 1:20sales mode. You seem like you're just having
- 1:23a good time. How do you manage to keep that?
- 1:26So that's how I sell stuff, you know, like I get more interested
- 1:32in things when the person selling it is actually enjoying
- 1:34themselves doing that, you know, I like, I'm on, I'm on the sales
- 1:39team for Kalafia. But like me and them complete
- 1:42opposites, you know? So it comes like, I want to have
- 1:46fun. I want to treat an Expo booth
- 1:48like a coffee shop, right? We remember people's faces,
- 1:51remember what they drink. We ask them how they're doing.
- 1:54We play music that we want to hear that everyone can Just
- 1:56Dance to, you know. So it's a good time.
- 1:58Everyone's having a good time. If we're not having a good time,
- 2:01most people are probably having a good time.
- 2:02You know, we saw that the first day of New York Coffee Fest.
- 2:08Things went wrong at the booth. I wasn't having a good time.
- 2:10Everyone else, spirits went down, got up and running,
- 2:14changed everything, you know? Yeah, you guys struggle with
- 2:16some power and some other issues.
- 2:18Yep. And I but you can see people
- 2:20like circling, waiting and waiting, you know, for you guys
- 2:23to come back online. You what it?
- 2:26What are you guys making over there today that's kind of stood
- 2:28out to you? We have our signature.
- 2:31The ochata was super nice using proper simple syrup, vanilla
- 2:36extract and cinnamon espresso and hope, though, you know, it's
- 2:41a nice drink and mimics our chocolate a lot, you know,
- 2:43without being too sweet are just too much.
- 2:47And then we have our sweet cream latte just using our new almond
- 2:52or organic almond sweet cream Creamer, 4 grams of sugar, super
- 2:57nice, right? All flavored, not sweet.
- 3:01So we put that in there with the lots of put the milk that we use
- 3:03for a latte. Just do it up.
- 3:05People seem to be enjoying them on ice.
- 3:07We have our soy protein vanilla latte, which is also super nice,
- 3:11you know, So we just got a few things going on.
- 3:13People are interested in stuff. What do you wish?
- 3:16You know, there's a lot of coffee shops here, a lot of
- 3:18coffee roasters here. What do you wish people knew or
- 3:23that you could share about working in particular with the
- 3:26type of milk that you offer? Because there's so many
- 3:28different milk offerings now. Calafia Farms has a ton of
- 3:31different offerings. What's like a little thing
- 3:34you're like, man, if I could pass this piece of device on to
- 3:37those that are out there using it, this is what I would say.
- 3:41For Caliphia specifically. Or I mean, you've got a lot of
- 3:47coffee experience, so this is what you wish people knew about
- 3:51using milk based or milk alternative products in there.
- 3:54Have always have a barista who's willing to try it out with you
- 4:00all call or next to you just having only an R&D team do it
- 4:06doesn't cut it. You know, you need that extra
- 4:08hand because because the reality is, whether you are a roaster
- 4:12operator or a cafe owner or you work for a company that's making
- 4:18a product, if you don't have an actual barista there who's going
- 4:23to use this in an everyday life, your products not going to do
- 4:26well, right? Because The thing is, science
- 4:30numbers can only show you so much.
- 4:32But the reality of it is once it gets into a shop, it's like a
- 4:36free for all, right? But if you have someone there
- 4:38who understands everything that can happen within the aspects of
- 4:41a shop, they can they can give you more insight as to how to
- 4:45make the product function that, you know, that's one thing like
- 4:49just have it, even if it's not, whether whether it's for milk
- 4:52based products or coffees, more like grab and go things.
- 4:56Have someone in the real world aspect trying it out before you
- 4:59put it out. You know, you're going to get
- 5:02real feedback, real emotion from it and you're going to get a
- 5:08bunch of other people like now, like, oh, well, this person said
- 5:12it actually worked. Why not?
- 5:14You know, good thing about about coffee people, a lot of us don't
- 5:17lie about the product. So if we don't like it, we'll
- 5:20say it. But if we do like it, but hey,
- 5:21this is good. Try it out.
- 5:23It's great. Here you go.
- 5:24That's going to help a lot of people.
- 5:26But take your time too. Don't try to just go into things
- 5:31like always, like, oh, I know how to do this.
- 5:33I've seen oat milk before. Not every oat milk is the same,
- 5:37right? Not every almond milk is the
- 5:38same. I tell people treat treat plant
- 5:41based milks like whole milk. Right?
- 5:44But understand the little things that make it different and
- 5:47you'll go so far with it, it'll be great.
- 5:51I know you as a West Coast guy. Yep.
- 5:55We're here in New York on the East Coast.
- 5:57How do you fit in with the vibe here?
- 5:59How do you? What do you feel about New York?
- 6:00I know you can't be like but. I mean, like, it's weird because
- 6:07my first time here was two years ago and I didn't think, I didn't
- 6:12think I would like it until I walked outside one day by myself
- 6:16and it was like, no one bothered me, right?
- 6:19No one tried to like, hey, you want to buy this?
- 6:21Hey, let me take a picture. I guess I just fit in and I was
- 6:24like, it's cool. I was like, all right, so New
- 6:28Yorkers show it's great. The weather is not for me.
- 6:30It's very anti yo Shawn in the winter because right now in LA
- 6:35it's like 90°. Anti Yo Shawn, that's amazing.
- 6:39But New York at their site, the food's good.
- 6:42The people are the My Coffee homies.
- 6:44Everyone at the you, everyone at this Expo are chill.
- 6:47I love seeing y'all you know do. You do you bring your skates
- 6:51along. No, no, because it's Winter
- 6:56sale, you know. There's not a lot of snow on the
- 6:59ground. I've seen just little.
- 7:01It's not but but me. It takes a long time for me to
- 7:04get warmed up, and the last thing I want to do is skate back
- 7:07to my hotel sweaty. Yeah.
- 7:09So, you know, I'll bring my skates along.
- 7:12Yeah. Plus, I don't have time.
- 7:14I could. We're too busy with this.
- 7:16Maybe one day. Maybe.
- 7:18Probably for San Diego. Yeah.
- 7:19We'll see how that goes. I'm really excited to go back.
- 7:23I don't know if I told you, but I moved up to Oregon.
- 7:26Oh yeah. So this will be my first time
- 7:28back to California, so I'm pretty excited.
- 7:32Anything else going on in the world of the ocean that you want
- 7:34to share with us? Yeah, we offer.
- 7:38I am now doing trainings at Kalafia Farms office on Fridays.
- 7:42I know we talked about that was going to be happening and.
- 7:45Now it's happening. We just did 2 full months of
- 7:48trainings because the the the access to it was too good to
- 7:54pass up for a lot of people. So I had schedules packed up, 15
- 7:59people a class. I had classes outside of the
- 8:01office as well, and now we're doing consulting for some other
- 8:08shops and stuff like that, right?
- 8:10Because they can't make it on the Fridays.
- 8:12Offering Monday courses as well for shops only, you know?
- 8:15So like just the team comes in, we train them in all aspects of
- 8:19espresso, milk, cement, gauging temperature by hand,
- 8:22understanding what to listen to and like observing your shot
- 8:27pallet development, all the good stuff, you know?
- 8:30How do people find out about upcoming classes or how do they
- 8:32get signed up if it's something they're interested?
- 8:34In my Instagram, no, the poor up LA.
- 8:37That's all. That's what I put out there.
- 8:38I have Eventbrite links sent through the stories and it's
- 8:42first come first served because it just goes so fast.
- 8:45You know? 60 + 60 plus people in like less
- 8:50than an hour was insane. So it's nice, you know, it's
- 8:53good, it's good. And Kalapia, we're trying to
- 8:57expand it throughout the rest of the US, So we're figuring it
- 9:00out, trying to slow in LA or rat fast in LA because it blew up so
- 9:04fast. We're going to expand it down
- 9:06towards San Diego, offering different places like here in
- 9:10New York, Florida, probably Chicago or Texas.
- 9:14And then like the Pack, the Pack W, you know, we're just figuring
- 9:18stuff out. That's great.
- 9:20Congratulations. Thank you, Yashan.
- 9:22I always appreciate your time and your energy.
- 9:24Thank you. Thank you for.
- 9:25Being and thank you for that drink you made me earlier
- 9:28because that was a lifesaver. Nice.
- 9:31I'm glad because yesterday, man. Yeah, it was like the electric
- 9:35was out and then I think there was a.
- 9:36Water issue that so. Oh my goodness.
- 9:38The car went out and we realized why the.
- 9:43These are like some connectors weren't touching.
- 9:45Something was happening so the machine has a fail safe on it
- 9:48which I don't think anyone knew about.
- 9:52And when the when the surge protective blew, the surge
- 9:57protector was only rated for 15 amps right?
- 10:00Even though on the packaging it said like 25 or something.
- 10:02So the machines giving out 15 amps, we got a grinder plugged
- 10:06into it giving out five and then we had the pump for the water
- 10:09for rinse sink giving out like 5 extra amps.
- 10:12So it's like it was overloaded. That's something it's still
- 10:16recording you, but if I share that last little bit, that's
- 10:20something I feel like people don't realize, especially when
- 10:22they get into coffee or they want to start a card or
- 10:24something, is how to know your your wattage, know your
- 10:28electricity. That part scared the crap out of
- 10:30me. When I started getting into
- 10:32doing stuff. We were doing a lot of side.
- 10:34I was doing a lot of pop up shops and that sort of thing,
- 10:37but not knowing where I can plug in and how much power I need.
- 10:42You got to know for your machines, your everything.
- 10:44Yep, it, it's, it's always scary.
- 10:46It's like a terrifying thing to be like, all right, let's do
- 10:49this set up right. And then everything turns off.
- 10:52It doesn't want to function properly when it turns back on.
- 10:56So that's what we're dealing with.
- 10:57But we, we figured out what the reason was.
- 11:02Spend more money on surge protectors because they're going
- 11:05to help out. Like don't cheap out on that.
- 11:09Or plug your machine into a stand alone like a plug.
- 11:13If you can't, if it's a wall, plug it into a wall.
- 11:15If it's a extension cord, use that only one.
- 11:19You don't need the surge protector for that.
- 11:22And then your grind yourself will be fine in the surge
- 11:24protector. This is New York though.
- 11:26All of the outlets have been painted over like 45 times, so
- 11:29nobody knows what's behind I. Know I may just chip it away,
- 11:32stop pulling it off.