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Episode 210: Not Leaving, GTA 6, & Slurp Review Spider-Man BND · Chucks Cantina

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  Speaker 1: This is Chuck's Cantina Podcast. Fuck you. Where anything and
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  everything is up for discussion. And now, here's your barman,
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  Chuck O'Donnell.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Wait a second. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Wait.
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  Speaker 2: Wait.
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  Speaker 1: Wait.
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  Speaker 2: Wait. Wait. Wait.
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  Speaker 3: Wait. Wait.
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  Speaker 2: Wait. Wait. Wait.
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  Speaker 3: Wait.
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  Speaker 1: Wait.
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  Speaker 2: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. It's fixed. Damn it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just playing.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go. Good shit.
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  Speaker 1: Good shit.
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  Speaker 2: We did it.
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  Speaker 1: We did it. You got me back. Don't ask me
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  how long it's been.
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  Speaker 2: Is this your first episode back?
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  Speaker 1: It's been a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize. It's been a minute. Yeah. That's the place off. No,
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  I need.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: There's... Especially all the spiders I've been killing outside my home, which...
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  I didn't mean to do that foreshadowing.
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  Speaker 2: Spiders? Spiders?
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  Speaker 1: You don't say.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm done with the times off. I apologize. I...
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  Nothing bad. Just life and just been busy with work and...
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  stuff so but it's a good nothing nothing bad just
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  good stuff you know dog and summer and work did
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  i mention work and spiders spiders i i literally spent
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  last week i literally went i literally last weekend um
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  oh chuck's cantina by the way i know i i
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  have to remember wait let me do this right let
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  me see if i can remember this again it's like
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  the fifth time i think i've done this welcome to
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  chuck's cantina i'm your favorite barman host or whatever hell
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  you will call me chuck hey i got it right Woo-hoo!
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  And after 200 episodes.
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  Speaker 2: ChessCantina at Gmail, at all these socials.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah. Stole my line. I'm here to help. Yeah,
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  so for some reason, we have a spider problem. Like,
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  and again, I literally did not mean to do that,
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  like just funny force chat when it's come up here
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  a little bit. For some reason, we literally have been, like,
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  it's like every other summer, we've not, actually, yeah, because
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  now this is our fourth year here, It's like every
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  other summer we have just like just this influx of
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  just like spiders. And by the way, not like thankfully
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  not coming to our house so much. Like we haven't
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  had that many in our house. Knock on wood. But
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  like they're all gathering right at my front door. Not
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  on the side, not in the backyard. My front door.
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  We literally have this giant. I'll see if I can
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  send you a picture with this giant orange one that's
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  like right by my garden on the gutter. I thought
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  I've killed this thing twice. This thing is.
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  Speaker 2: The Dark Souls boss. Literally, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to think of a joke, but yeah,
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  I think that just tops it off. It's a Dark
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  Souls boss. It keeps, no matter how many times I
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  think I've killed it, I've done the peppermint thing, and
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  that worked to a point. I think it just pissed
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  some of them off more than anything.
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  Speaker 2: What the fuck? It's not even October yet.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but no. At least give me the pumpkin
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  spice spray. They're going to end up liking it more.
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  Because I remember I was literally spraying some dead on
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  with this peppermint. And, by the way, I don't condone
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  the harmfulness of animals and bugs and life and all
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  that stuff, but you know what? When they're trying to
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  bite me and my animals, well, fuck you! But, literally,
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  I swear, I'm, like, spraying them dead on, and they're just, like,
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  sitting there. And I can tell, like, some of them
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  don't like it, some of them are just like, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 1: And some of these spiders I've seen, these are, and
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  obviously if you listen to the show, which if you
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  haven't for a while, that's my fault. But like some
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  of these spiders are like, there's some of them are,
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  I'm not going to lie to you. I mean, you know,
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  OG patron.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I remember your name. Some I'm, I'm a, I'm, I'm
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  a rack of phobic. I'm a pussy. When it comes
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  to spiders, it is what it is. But, um, some
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  of these spiders, I'm not joking. I tell you, I'm like,
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  wait a minute. We're in Illinois. Why are these spiders
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  this big?
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  Speaker 3: South american spiders oh god shipped overseas wasn't that like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah wasn't it last fall there were supposed to be
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  some like spiders that were gonna be like floated over
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  here from like africa australia or some shit it.
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  Speaker 2: Was hornets oh even worse hornets wasps african killer bees.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway yes but no all is good um i am
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  i'm sorry i thank you for joining late i uh
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  apologize i am I was having a, we got home
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  late from work, and as I, again, alluding to what
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  I said earlier, work's been crazy, and I was having
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  a nice, lovely dinner with my wife. I am not
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  drinking for this episode, although I have had two glasses
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  of white wine, so we'll see where this goes.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm currently drinking some high-quality H2O NADC. What are you having?
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  Speaker 2: I'm having some high-quality H2O. We just replaced the filter.
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  It's tasting nice.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, that's going to be fresh.
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  Speaker 2: It is fresh. It tastes almost too clean. Too clear? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Too clean?
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  Speaker 2: Too clean, yeah. Too clean. I don't know. Something's off
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  about it. Something's off about it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? Actually, I swear I thought I would
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  never really get into. My wife, she's really been trying
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  to drink more water. And she's like me. We drink
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  so much water of it, you just get bored of
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  it so fast. So what she started doing was she
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  actually started drinking like... She would just get water, but
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  she would put electrolytes in it. Not like... I mean, yeah,
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  she put like the flavored ones and I've never really
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  like enjoyed those just because I'm like, I don't know.
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  I just I've never like I love sparkling water. I
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  love sparkling flavor. I won't get that wrong. But like
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  I just always feel like that stuff is just like
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  too bitter to me. But she got she got this
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  one pack. I'm not going to say what brand they
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  don't pay me in anything. But like she got this
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  one and I'm not the biggest peach guy. but she
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  got there's this peach flavor it was like a multi-pack
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  so like she didn't get to pick what flavors it
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  was and i literally i swear to you i think
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  i drank all the peach ones.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah peach flavored anything is usually good usually usually.
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  Speaker 1: I mean our palates and everything changed throughout the course
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  of life because like i said i used to hate
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  or stupidly mind you i used to hate peanut butter
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  and now i love peanut butter uh when.
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  Speaker 3: I was a kid i didn't like cheese on things
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  what the hell was i thinking.
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  Speaker 2: I like pizza.
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  Speaker 1: Now that I think of it, yeah, you really didn't
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  eat cheese a lot at my house.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have cheeseburgers. I didn't have like, you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Mac and cheese or anything like that?
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  Speaker 2: I never had mac and cheese.
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  Speaker 3: It was just really just cheese on sandwiches or cheeseburgers.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, now thinking back on it, I'm like,
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  obviously as a kid, you don't remember why you don't
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  like something. Right. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: But now like hindsight, like I, I'm not, I'll do it.
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  I'm not joking. I'll really only do it at a
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  fast food drive-thru. But I rarely now, whenever I have
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  a cheeseburger, it's rarely American cheese. Unless it's from a deli.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much cheese out there.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much cheese.
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  Speaker 2: We got a Carolina Reaper cheese in the fridge right now.
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  I am a sucker for.
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  Speaker 1: Gouda or a sucker for goat cheese, man?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love goat cheese a little.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I brought a hot honey goat cheese to Thanksgiving
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  last year for a little charcuterie booty.
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  Speaker 2: Charcuterie booty board.
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  Speaker 3: And, man, that was banging. So keep your eyes out
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  for that. I think I got it like a minor
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  or something, but who cares?
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I... A lot of plugs just now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: You're good.
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  Speaker 1: I just realized over this summer... Like, I've been trying, like, obviously,
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  we're still working on our house and stuff like that. And, like,
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  last week, or two weeks ago, like, we've been doing, like,
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  some stuff around the house. Like, our kitchen's become, like,
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  a little bit like the store center. So, Caitlin actually
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  went for a nice girls' trip weekend to Boston. And
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  I literally woke up one day, took my ADHD medication,
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  and I just had this, like, weird urge to be like,
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  you know what? I literally said, it's not like I
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  haven't been able to make myself food. I want to
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  make that very clear. But I'm like, I want to
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  make myself breakfast, but I don't want to make myself
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  breakfast in this kitchen. So I literally, I cannot tell
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  you how much shit I threw out. And stupidly me,
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  of course, I did this the day after our trash came.
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  So this is literally, so like literally like not even
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  24 hours after our trash or the trucks came to
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  get our trash. My trash can was full. because i'm
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  like all right for a week yeah like we don't
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  need well nothing like nothing like food or anything like
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  that just like shit i'm like okay i haven't used
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  this you know this container since i got it from
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  some random house i went to or anything like that
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  you know what i mean what do you mean.
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  Speaker 2: A random house you stole.
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  Speaker 1: No no like you know you go to you know
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  it's the classic midwest thing you go to someone's house
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  hey you want any leftovers yeah sure okay and then
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  you get a tupperware and it's like you can tell
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  it's not saying it's like gross or anything but it's
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  like the one that like they've been trying to get
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  rid of since, you know, 2004.
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  Speaker 2: Give me one second. I got to adjust my headphones.
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  So make it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, while he's doing that, I will give a brief recap.
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  So yes, again, To all those who have reached out
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  and to all those who have listened, I will first
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  off say thank you. I appreciate it. And again, apologize
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  for my delay. I am back. And I know I've
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  said that in the past. This is episode 210. This
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  should probably be episode 270, 260. But you know what?
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  That's on me. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: 210 is a good number.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what? There are some podcasts, unfortunately, that
• 10:39
  I've worked with, I've been on, that are not even
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  around anymore. Which sucks. It sucks. It sucks. Some great ones,
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  mind you. One actually was hosted by a buddy of mine,
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  and he just said they just couldn't get together, which
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  is hard to do it. And it's not easy doing this,
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  but if you really love doing this, you've got to
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  just commit to it. And that's why I've got to
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  try to be better about doing it, especially with voice acting.
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  I've been taking a voice acting class for the last
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  eight weeks, and just with life, it has not been easy.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Every time I'm doing it, it's fun as shit. I
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  literally last night just sat here and was clapping. Because
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  it was part of the course, they wanted to test
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  my My room tone and all this stuff and clapping
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  apparently helps. Actually, that was a good clap. See, because
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  I actually have a very good clap. I have a
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  very good clap like that one. Let me just see
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  if I can get it right. Hold on. Let me
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  also get it where I don't make you all deaf. Nope,
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  that's not how I want.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: We get that loud echo. See, that's how I usually clap.
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  But the problem is when you're trying to set room tone,
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  you want your clap to be like. That's unwrong. You
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  want your clap to be very basic just so it
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  resets the room. Instead, here I am doing a loud echo. And,
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  of course, they're going to hear that and go, wait,
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  why is there an echo? This guy's unprofessional.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck you. So, yeah. That was fun. So, no. I
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  am back.
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  Speaker 1: To all those who reached out, I will reach back
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  out to you.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: Some of you, actually, I already had reached out to.
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  Speaker 2: But. Time to reset the tone.
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  Speaker 1: We're resetting the tone. Episode 1, you were here. Episode 2-10,
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  you're here again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, here we go again.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go again. Hey, you know what? You can
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  ask me this. What came back first? GTA or Trucks Cantina?
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  You're welcome. Although the GTA trailer beat me. But you
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  know what?
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  Speaker 2: It's a trailer.
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  Speaker 1: It's a trailer that already leaked.
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  Speaker 2: This is the main event.
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  Speaker 1: Really quick, can we talk about that?
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  Speaker 2: Talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch the 25-minute thing or no?
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  Speaker 2: On Netflix?
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  Speaker 1: Or just, it's on YouTube now. You can find it anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I have not. I'm kind of over the GTA hype. Yeah.
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  I don't care how good of a game it's going
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  to be.
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  Speaker 1: You should watch it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look. Look. Look, man. I played GTA 4
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  on the 360. I did not touch GTA 5. Barely.
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  Speaker 3: And the only time I did, I just put in
• 13:03
  all the cheat codes, especially that Skyfall one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And you just skydove from the top of
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  the map.
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  Speaker 1: It was great.
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  Speaker 2: That was about it.
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  Speaker 3: All I've ever seen from GTA 5 is people just
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  blowing shit up, running from the cops, and then all
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  the microtransactions.
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  Speaker 2: For GTA Online.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: The best thing, I think, to come out of GTA
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  5 that has crossed my path Is the fact that
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  there are people online that will just role play like
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  taxi drivers or whatever the fuck and just be that character.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they'll get online and talk to people in that character.
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  And I think that's really dope.
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  Speaker 2: But tell me about GTA 6 and why I should
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  be excited. Wait, really quick.
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  Speaker 1: They're paying you so much money to do this. No, Rockstar. Although,
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  Rockstar couldn't afford me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 1: That's a joke. That's a joke, Rockstar. Chuck's Cantina, gmail.com.
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  Chuck's Cantina on your socials. We love to talk. I'll
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  do a live. I'll talk about streaming. I really want
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  to stream. I do want to stream just for fun.
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  I would love to do that. But, well, although it's
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  not on PC. It's not coming out on PC yet. Sorry. What?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second. But here's the thing.
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  They know they're going to make their money back day one.
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  As we've talked about in this podcast, this is actually
• 14:23
  a fact. There are businesses. I can't remember. There's like one.
• 14:26
  I don't want to say it's like an auto repair franchise.
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  Not like one of the big ones you've heard on TV. Again,
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  I'm not going to name them, but like some smaller ones.
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  It's either that or some type of house service. It's
• 14:40
  one of the two. They've already put out a public
• 14:44
  address saying on release date they will not be available.
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  Because they are giving their employees a day off because
• 14:51
  they all have been like– because everyone is going to take,
• 14:54
  if not that day, that week off. There is literally
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  people who have joked, and I think it's actually going
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  to happen, a nation, if not global-wide decrease in– Productivity.
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  Thank you. Productivity because of this game. Servers and Wi-Fi companies,
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  all these internet providers– are going to have to pay
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  double or triple overtime to keep their staff... They'll find
• 15:19
  someone if not. But they can make sure they're fully
• 15:23
  live and active because there's going to be... There is
• 15:25
  going to be... What's the terms? Literally, Outlook had one today.
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  Speaker 2: An outage.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesus.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: An outage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's going to be outages because so many people
• 15:41
  are going to play this game.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: That's only on consoles because they're doing, again, they're doing
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  exactly what they did with GTA V. And here's the thing.
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  Here's the thing. Do I like it or agree with it?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: But also, I'm not stupid.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 1: It's money. It's a business. When GTA V came out,
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  did I ever? I'm trying to think. No, I only
• 16:07
  had GTA V on the 360 as a, actually, funny enough,
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  I had GTA V on the 360, which was a
• 16:14
  graduation gift. I had GTA V on my Xbox One
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  that actually came with it as a code. And then
• 16:23
  I do have GTA V on my computer because it
• 16:25
  was free. It was actually free on Epic for, I think,
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  like a day or two. And it crashed. It crashed.
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  it crashed the fucking server, the fucking web, the online
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  server's epic, which is not Steam, but it's like number two.
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  It crashed it because some people were trying to get
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  on to get GTA 5. This, of course, this is
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  years after. Now, so essentially, I've never, you know, nicely,
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  I've never paid for it, but I also, I don't,
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  you know my opinions on microtransactions, stuff like that. I
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  didn't pay for any of those on GTA Online either,
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  but I can admit, It was fun as hell. The
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  shit they give you and the things you can earn
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  if you put a little more cash into it, I
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  can see why. Now, do I agree with it?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather be like, hey, why don't you go spend
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  that money and go do something, like go to a
• 17:16
  wrestling show or a Cubs game. But people want to do, hey,
• 17:19
  it's their money. Use it when you need it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: Going to the video, though, and I get what they're doing.
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  They're going to release it on consoles in two months,
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  which is crazy to say. And then in, like, a
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  year and a half or so, you know, I bet
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  you what's going to happen is right when they announce
• 17:40
  the PS6 is coming out, Sony, that is, like, hey,
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  it'll come out in a year, that's when they'll release
• 17:46
  it on PC. Because why? Because people already bought it
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  on the last generation are going to have it on there.
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  People who have a PC will buy it on PC.
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  And then when it comes out with the new consoles...
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  Then it'll be, it'll be, if, if not purchased with,
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  it'll be like, Hey, you buy, you know, it could
• 18:03
  be God knows you and I have seen those. It'll
• 18:05
  be the, Hey, if you buy this console, you get
• 18:06
  this game with it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what's going to happen because again, they
• 18:11
  know people are going to buy it there. I mean,
• 18:12
  I know people, I mean, technically you could say me,
• 18:15
  I've had it on the technically three different systems. Now,
• 18:18
  thankfully by circumstances, I didn't pay for it, but I'm
• 18:23
  definitely the minority. because a lot of people paid for
• 18:27
  it on every system they have because they wanted the
• 18:29
  updated graphics, the updated, uh, just all the updates and stuff. Like,
• 18:33
  you know, even if you have it on the three 60,
• 18:35
  you got all the updates. You just didn't have the graphic, uh, advantage.
• 18:38
  That's it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. It's gonna, I don't like, I
• 18:45
  don't like a lot to impress me with it. You
• 18:47
  know what I'm saying?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Like, I will say this, the video, I recommend you
• 18:51
  watch it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: It, I'm sure it's impressive.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It's very impressive. It's one of those things where the
• 18:58
  smallest little details, in terms of how they put a
• 19:01
  bag on their shoulder and how they load a shotgun,
• 19:03
  it's just like, okay, I'm shocked. It's like, yeah, this
• 19:07
  game took, what, 14, 15 years to come out? You
• 19:13
  will know shit when they're literally doing things like that.
• 19:18
  And again, we'll see what happens when the game actually
• 19:20
  comes out.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: But again, I.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where I'm like, I'm just
• 19:23
  gonna be able to sit here. Unless, you know, rockstar
• 19:27
  wants to send me a PS five that I can
• 19:28
  stream with trucks. I'll make a channel on Twitch or whatever.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Um, I'll, I'll, or what's it?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I know. I don't even buy it. I
• 19:38
  know it here. I'll promote, I'll promote your shark cards,
• 19:45
  but it's like a known thing. But like, I will
• 19:48
  say like, it's one of those trailers where like, i
• 19:50
  literally watched it and like again it's a you know
• 19:52
  it's like especially now in today's gaming and gaming knowledge
• 19:55
  with what we know even hell with movies which we'll
• 19:57
  get to in a second um spiders but like It's
• 20:01
  literally the common consensus now about video games. Don't pre-order anymore.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Don't pre-order.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Wait until the game comes out. Wait until the reviews
• 20:10
  come out. Oh, but there's a pre-order bonus. You know what?
• 20:13
  They're still going to include it when you buy it
• 20:14
  in three months from now because they're going to want
• 20:16
  your money. They're going to go, oh, wait, but if
• 20:17
  we include this pre-order bonus, we get an extra five
• 20:19
  bucks off them. But we'll put it on sale. That's
• 20:22
  what they do. Every game does that. That's what they do. Hell,
• 20:25
  the 2K wrestling games, they have pre-order bonuses every fucking year.
• 20:29
  But guess what? If you wait a couple months, you
• 20:32
  could buy the whole thing for a discount. And guess what?
• 20:34
  It comes with it. Because that's just how they do it. Now,
• 20:37
  there are some circumstances. I know there are actually games
• 20:39
  that do the pre-order thing where it's like, hey, if
• 20:40
  you don't pre-order it, you don't get it. Which is, hey,
• 20:42
  that's the risk you take.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of them now, though, are including
• 20:46
  that with the deluxe edition upgrade.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Right. Pre-orders are included, right? Right.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: And if anything, if a game doesn't include the pre-order
• 20:54
  bonus post-launch or pre-order If they say, like, hey, or
• 20:57
  if they... Because some games have done this, I know
• 20:59
  for a fact. Like, hey, if you pre-order it, you
• 21:01
  get it. Otherwise, you never get it again. It's kind
• 21:03
  of like, hmm, you seem desperate for me to pre-order this.
• 21:05
  Is it because it's shit?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, too.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: It's like a lot of it is just, like, stuff
• 21:10
  that you don't really need, but you would get anyway,
• 21:13
  but you just get it earlier.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Or, like, in the case of the WWE shit, it's, like, just,
• 21:19
  you know, completely, like, nullifies the grind of, like, your.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: My Rise character, right?
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: You just get a bunch of upgrade points out the gate,
• 21:28
  and so, like, your character's just overpowered as fuck, so.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: But, um, no, I would, I recommend, I would recommend
• 21:36
  go watching it, because I'm not gonna lie, it's very
• 21:39
  nicely paced, it's, I like, I actually, I like how
• 21:42
  they did it, so they, it's not like you're sticking
• 21:44
  with one, you don't stick with one scene, the way
• 21:46
  they transition to, like, other parts of the game, I'm like, okay,
• 21:48
  that's actually pretty clever. I would, like I said, if
• 21:51
  you have 25 minutes, I recommend, it's a good watch.
• 21:53
  25 minutes is kind of crazy for a trailer.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: What's that? 25 minutes is kind of crazy for a trailer.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: No, that I agree with, but it's not a trailer,
• 22:02
  it's gameplay.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: It's an extended look.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It's an extended look of a trailer.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Speaking of games, I've been pretty pumped for this Wolverine game.
• 22:12
  They released some more details about what they.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Must be nice. Yeah, no, it looks amazing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: It's given definite X-Men Origins Wolverine... Vibes. It's given... Criminally underrated,
• 22:27
  by the way. Right.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: And it's given vibes of the Wolverine game from, like,
• 22:31
  the PS2, GameCube era.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Wolverine Revenge, or whatever the heck it was called.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get, like, insane God of War vibes
• 22:40
  off it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Especially with, like, the Berserker state or whatever.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: But they did release some details in a new trailer about, like,
• 22:50
  the gameplay loop and how there's, like, these.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: extra missions you can do between stuff.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: And there's this hub world where you can like interact
• 22:58
  with these characters and, uh, and, um, Wolverine can smell
• 23:02
  out these nightmare doors, which I'm like, how the fuck
• 23:05
  does that work?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: But it's like extra challenges and shit.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm interested to see how, how good it really is.
• 23:12
  If he can hold up to the, the Spider-Man games, um,
• 23:17
  this insomniac, right?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: If it can hold a candle to those and like the,
• 23:21
  the amount of content that was there.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens. What will be interesting to see...
• 23:26
  One of my favorite characters, so... What will be interesting to.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: See, though, is, like, yeah, can it, like, hold a
• 23:31
  candle to Spider-Man? Especially because, like, I haven't played it, but, like,
• 23:37
  it seems like, as years have gone on, the Spider-Man
• 23:41
  2 is not as well-received. I mean, especially since they
• 23:46
  canceled the DLC. Which, like, yeah, if you bought a game,
• 23:49
  figured you'd get all this DLC, and then they cancel it, I'd.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Be pissed, too.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know why.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: But.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: no it's supposedly it was due to a leak and
• 23:57
  then there's some other things that like contributed to it
• 23:59
  but like at the same time it's just kind of
• 24:00
  like like really like we're gonna like because it's like
• 24:05
  it's spider again like i mean foreshadowing it's spider-man it
• 24:09
  could be absolute dog shit guess.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: What it's still gonna make money and the first one's
• 24:15
  dlc was kind of like underwhelming in terms of its
• 24:17
  scope like i'd agree that for sable was in there
• 24:21
  tombstone was in there or something but that was kind
• 24:23
  of it and it was like well there's cooler shit
• 24:25
  you could have done but whatever um yeah and i
• 24:29
  mean yeah like you're right it's money on the table
• 24:32
  you know people would have bought it um it is
• 24:37
  what it is it's money at the end of the
• 24:39
  day it's money and money you gotta do something special
• 24:41
  money to spend my money excuse me.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Which they'll probably get some of it um with that
• 24:46
  being said though so yeah but and Speaking of Spider-Man... No,
• 24:51
  I'm just kidding. Actually, speaking of Marvel, I'll say this.
• 24:57
  The one thing I'll say about video games, but kind
• 25:00
  of ties into more what we're going to talk about
• 25:01
  here in a second. Did you see the.
• 25:04
  Did you see the Iron Man leak?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: The Iron Man leak?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: The Iron Man video game leak.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: No.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: This is a game that's been talked about for years
• 25:14
  to come.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, it has. And.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the trailer.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yes. Oh no.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It's definitely recommend to watch. It's not 25 minutes long,
• 25:29
  which is nice. Eight minutes long, like five minutes. Well,
• 25:33
  it's not, it's, I think it's one of those, I
• 25:34
  think it's one of those things that it wasn't supposed
• 25:37
  to leak. Um, and I think it's, I think it's
• 25:40
  like a trailer before, like, like they're trying to figure
• 25:42
  out what to put in the trailer. If that makes sense.
• 25:46
  definitely worth the watch now I'm not condoning anyone on
• 25:50
  here to go watch something that's illegally up there I
• 25:52
  mean not that you can't you don't have to go
• 25:53
  to like you can go on any social media page
• 25:55
  and you'll find it in two seconds but definitely worth
• 26:00
  the search it was very interesting and I'm not going
• 26:06
  to lie considering especially who's making it wink wink I
• 26:10
  was surprised with how much again but we've been fooled
• 26:12
  before so With that being said, we'll see what happens. But, yes,
• 26:17
  speaking of spiders.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Fuck spiders.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: No, we're obviously going to do a... Actually, did I even...
• 26:23
  Did I ask you what you're drinking?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, high quality H2O. Oh, yeah, okay.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, son of a bitch. I forgot one thing.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, we are going to talk about Spider-Man's brand new day.
• 26:33
  Because it's his brand new movie. On a brand new day.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And a brand new Chuck's Cantina.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Very much so. Yes, thank you. in a brand new month,
• 26:45
  brand new quarter. Um, it seems like it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Um, so yeah, I will, I will say this. So
• 26:52
  I was fortunate enough to actually, um, because I'm a
• 26:57
  member of a website. This is going to sound really
• 27:00
  sketchy when I found, because I'm a, because I'm a
• 27:05
  member of a website of a shopping website that everyone
• 27:08
  shops from. Yeah, where you get very good delivery deals.
• 27:14
  You get free delivery very often with everything. There we go.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: That helps. Named after a rainforest and a river. Yeah.
• 27:21
  Named after the rainforest.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wherever piranhas are from. There you go. Piranha.com. They
• 27:33
  had a special where if you were a member, you
• 27:36
  were able to actually go see the movie on that
• 27:37
  Wednesday before it came out. that's kind of crazy tickets
• 27:42
  sold out pretty fast I was fortunate enough to go
• 27:44
  and see it with a buddy of mine and I
• 27:46
  will tell you the theater was packed so much so
• 27:51
  that it was packed that there was actually a financial
• 27:54
  services business there they were doing like a walk-up, like, hey,
• 27:59
  before you see your movie, you want to talk about
• 28:01
  your finances?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Like, really? No, man. This is the last place I want.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: To talk about that. I'm spending $ 25 on a popcorn
• 28:09
  and a soda. Go fuck off.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I just want to need you most. Where were you?
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: No, because my buddy, I went in with my buddy Joe,
• 28:19
  and like, he works, he kind of works in finances,
• 28:22
  and I remember him being like, why are you here?
• 28:27
  this is the last place you should be at so right.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Away I was like $ 35 bucket of popcorn shaped like
• 28:33
  Spider-Man's face looks back up and is like oh I.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Get it they had no they had I think out
• 28:41
  of all the popcorn buckets they had they were out
• 28:43
  they only had the cups I'm not really I'm not
• 28:47
  really into this is hilarious coming from me I'm not
• 28:49
  really into the popcorn buckets because I actually only have
• 28:52
  um which one do I have I have one that
• 28:55
  we got from Disney shocking um But we also got
• 28:59
  the Deadpool.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Darth Vader's mouth hole?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: No, it's the Millennium Falcon. Thank you very much. But actually, no,
• 29:04
  speaking of mouth hole, we have the Deadpool Wolverine one,
• 29:06
  which literally does Wolverine's head in with his mouth wide open.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's awesome.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, I remember, I don't know why
• 29:13
  I bought that. I definitely bought that. I'm like, oh,
• 29:16
  I got to get this funny popcorn bucket. Because, of course, obviously,
• 29:18
  it was their interpretation of the Dune one.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Right, of course.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: The Wormacy.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: The shiny allude. The sun can leap. I'm excited.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Actually, funny enough, I'm not going to lie. I've never
• 29:37
  sent a podcast. I haven't seen Dune 2 yet.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Because everyone tells me it's like one of the best
• 29:45
  sequels of that movie's ever made.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: It was really good.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: And I really wanted... I'm not looking forward to Dune 3, but.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Sorry, what were you saying?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, we went and saw the Odyssey, right? Yeah.
• 29:56
  That was amazing. Another amazing movie. But one of the trailers.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: was dune 3 and that was another that was an
• 30:04
  instance of a trailer not really being a trailer being
• 30:06
  like more of an extended look because it was just
• 30:08
  one scene yeah but um.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Didn't start with the director danny velner going thank you
• 30:13
  to my friend christopher nolan for letting me take this
• 30:15
  time to show you my trailer or something like.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That i think so yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: A buddy of mine told me he's like yeah it
• 30:20
  was like a minute it was him like thank you
• 30:22
  thank you in the audience like i want to thank
• 30:24
  nolan for letting me have this time i'm like what.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: You really need to advertise Dune 3 that hard? Like,
• 30:31
  you need to call in a favor from Christopher Nolan?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's coming out on Dune's day. I think, regardless,
• 30:36
  you're going to make some money on this movie, my guy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, is it really? I forgot about that. Anyway. So, yes.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: So, Spider-Man Brand New Day.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this before we get started. When
• 30:48
  you went to go see it, did they play any trailers?
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Here's a question for you. What time did your movie
• 30:55
  actually fucking start?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: What? It started right on fucking time because there were
• 31:00
  no trailers. Really?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Would you like to know what time my movie started?
• 31:03
  Because I kept a timer.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Is it like half hour late? 35. Damn. No trailers,
• 31:10
  just pure darkness?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I've explained this before on previous episodes. So, obviously, Marvel
• 31:18
  owns Spider-Man, but Sony has the rights to Spider-Man. So
• 31:22
  they show all these trailers. There's a Disney trailer. Other
• 31:26
  movie trailers. Obviously, of course, a Doomsday trailer. Then right
• 31:30
  after that, okay. Because, again, it's the Doomsday trailer.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Boom. The big last trailer. Movie time.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Three more fucking Sony trailers because it's a Sony movie. Like,
• 31:41
  son of a bitch.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: That's brutal.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Literally. I'm not joking. It is the longest I've waited
• 31:48
  for a trailer. Because the thing is, like you, I
• 31:50
  read that some movies that saw Spider-Man had no trailers
• 31:56
  because some people showed up late. Because you're like, wait
• 31:59
  a minute.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: And you missed 20 minutes of the movie.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: It's a known thing now. Movies don't start on time.
• 32:03
  They start fucking 45, 30 minutes, 45 minutes after the
• 32:06
  time it says. Because even most tickets say that now. But,
• 32:10
  you know, it started. And that's actually kind of like why.
• 32:13
  That's actually why me and Joe went on time. Because
• 32:16
  the thing, my ticket didn't say like, hey. Because my
• 32:21
  wife and I, we go to movie theater often. And, like,
• 32:24
  they always say, like, oh, hey, please be aware, like,
• 32:26
  your movie actually starts at, like, 20, 25 minutes after.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: That's nice. That's a nice little thing.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: No, but all the movie theaters now do that. But, like,
• 32:34
  the thing about this ticket, it didn't say that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Fuckers. See, my thing was quite the opposite experience of yours, right?
• 32:44
  We were on time.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: But we wanted some popcorn. And we went with some
• 32:49
  friends because it was my buddy's birthday. And they did
• 32:52
  a double feature. We met up for Spider-Man. So we
• 32:55
  got there on time.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I had the tickets already. They go to sit down.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, babe, talking to my wife, babe, you go
• 33:03
  sit down. I'm going to get us some popcorn.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: What a gent. Because I'm a good person.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: What a good lad.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: But because there were two theaters playing Spider-Man, the Odyssey
• 33:13
  was also out. The line was crazy. But in my head,
• 33:16
  I'm like, hey, you know, I got some trailer time.
• 33:19
  I got some buffer time.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: We'll be good. Next thing I know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: 20 minutes later, I'm, like, finally getting my popcorn. I
• 33:29
  text my wife, and I was like, hey, did I
• 33:30
  miss anything? And she's like, Spider-Man's sad and lonely.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean Spider-Man's sad and lonely?
• 33:36
  And it's like, oh, no, another Punisher.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, spoiler alert. What do you mean
• 33:39
  the Punisher's here?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: What do you mean the Punisher's here? What are you
• 33:44
  talking about?
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: And I get in there, and he's already in this
• 33:47
  lab in his, like, little fucking bachelor pad bungalow, whatever
• 33:51
  the fuck.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'm like, oh, dude, I missed a.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: ton of shit and I realized later like I missed
• 33:57
  all the exposition because it was just hard exposition in
• 33:59
  the beginning of the movie yeah beating up tombstone you
• 34:03
  know beating scorpion scorpion breaking out of prison the thing
• 34:07
  with fucking the scene where they introduced the idea oh
• 34:11
  somebody's controlling scorpion's mind and trying to get into spider-man's
• 34:16
  mind but he can't and the punisher's here so I
• 34:17
  missed the whole punisher scene which was like fucking that
• 34:20
  was a bummer but we got back into it and
• 34:22
  we're good that's good but yeah But it was the
• 34:24
  same thing when my buddy went to go see The Odyssey.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: No trailers. So I think what they.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Were trying to do is get people in and out
• 34:31
  as frequently as possible. Because there had been some lulls
• 34:35
  in movies coming out that people wanted to see.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: So I think they were just trying to get as
• 34:39
  many people in and out as possible.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you right now.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: What do I know?
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: There's no lull with this fucking movie. As of August 31st.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: It's got the dates. It's got the numbers.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Would you like to guess where... Let me double, I
• 34:55
  thought it was bigger than that. Let me double check this.
• 34:57
  Guess where Spider-Man Brand New Day is on the type
• 35:01
  Lifetime Gross.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Isn't it like Lifetime Gross?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Isn't it like number, I want to guess number two,
• 35:09
  number three.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: So I heard this afternoon it was at number three.
• 35:14
  According to Box Office Mojo, which is through IMDb, they're
• 35:18
  at fourth by less than two million. So that'll be
• 35:22
  done probably by today.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: But.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Because it's still in theaters, right? Correct, yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And as they should, they're going to milk the shit
• 35:31
  out of this thing until they... Because, again, the theatrical
• 35:34
  window pretty much, like most movies, is like 45 days. But, like,
• 35:37
  obviously with Spider-Man, they know, like, hey, they can make...
• 35:42
  Got all so much money off this movie. I said
• 35:43
  they should milk it to the very last minute.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: But.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: And I will say this. Out of all the Disney-Sony
• 35:55
  relationship MCU Spider-Man movies, I would agree. Now, I have
• 36:00
  a huge soft spot for No Way Home. Not that
• 36:05
  many people don't like it. A lot of people love
• 36:07
  the movie. But it is definitely a.
• 36:11
  How do I put this? In terms of if you're
• 36:15
  a pro wrestling fan, it's a mark-out movie. It's for
• 36:18
  the marks. Yeah, dude.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. There's never been a movie like it. Yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: This movie, though, I think is your classic street-level, which
• 36:29
  is why people want Spider-Man movie, with obviously some big implications,
• 36:34
  the things with some people that he obviously can't fight,
• 36:37
  not saying he can't fight, but are clearly a bit
• 36:39
  more powerful than him. But, like, at the end of
• 36:42
  the day, he does a scene and, like, you know,
• 36:43
  saves the day. You know, do-do-do-do-do. Like, it's... But it
• 36:47
  was one of those things where... And here's the thing.
• 36:51
  As OG Patron knows, this is going to sound really shitty,
• 36:54
  but it's not.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I don't drink a lot.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: But I drink a lot. I drink a lot of water.
• 37:00
  I drink a lot of sparkling water. I'll have a...
• 37:03
  Whenever I go to the movie theater, I'll have a big...
• 37:06
  I'll have the big cup.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: And usually... usually.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Probably a good 20, quarter of the way through, my
• 37:13
  bladder's like, hey man, uh, tough shit. Thankfully for this, what,
• 37:19
  I think it was like almost two and a half hours,
• 37:21
  I didn't, because again, I love Spider-Man, I didn't get
• 37:23
  up once. It was great. That movie, as long as,
• 37:26
  I'm not saying it's like a long, it's like a long,
• 37:28
  oh my god, it's like, I thought it just, it
• 37:31
  just flowed. That's the word I'm looking for. It's flowed
• 37:34
  so easily.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: That's the thing that I.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Loved about it is that like, we don't, just get
• 37:39
  like a three arc story. We get like a secret
• 37:43
  fourth arc.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: In this movie where it's like, you know, spoiler alert,
• 37:49
  I guess.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: We already said it.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: The villain that you think is the villain turns out
• 37:54
  to be not the villain.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no.
• 37:58
  Going into this movie, knowing that Jean Grey was in it,
• 38:00
  I was like, okay.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. The worst kept secret.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, like leaked like five years ago. Um, I
• 38:09
  thought she was going to be like an ally. I
• 38:10
  thought she was going to be somebody that helps them
• 38:12
  out or whatever. I think that was going to be
• 38:14
  the introduction of like the X-Men as a concept somehow.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But none of that was true.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: And in fact, they made Jean Grey a really convincing
• 38:23
  and threatening villain, right?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Right. And didn't mention X-Men once.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: There was not even an indication that there was somebody
• 38:32
  that noticed her powers go off. Like you would think,
• 38:36
  that Charles Xavier might pick up on another telepath or
• 38:38
  such and such.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: There's no inkling of that, no nod to that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: So I think they're playing their cards really close to
• 38:44
  the chest on that one.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: As they should.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: As they should.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: But in the way, and that being said, like Spider-Man
• 38:52
  and the X-Men have been really connected throughout time and
• 38:55
  like the comics and shit. So there's definitely really cool
• 38:59
  history that.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: They're playing off of there.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: But I thought the story of her, you know, taking
• 39:04
  over the minds of these petty criminals to get access
• 39:07
  to damage control and all that stuff. And the way
• 39:09
  that evolves into like her going bigger and bigger. And
• 39:14
  then finally the reveal, you know, of her trying to
• 39:18
  find her sister of all people after the fact.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: And then Spider-Man being like, oh shit, I fucked up.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: I gotta go help this person um you know again
• 39:28
  that plays into spider-man as a character like you know
• 39:33
  always wanting to do.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: The right thing the morally righteous thing but also being able.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: To look past someone's transgressions to to give them that
• 39:42
  second chance that right he kind of got right um
• 39:49
  It's really interesting because this Spider-Man still hasn't really.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: We haven't seen him go through his origin story. You
• 39:55
  know what I mean?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Which I'm kind of happy they didn't do that because
• 39:58
  it's been done to death so many times.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: It's been done to death, but still it's like... It's
• 40:02
  interesting that that's never just come up in a flashback
• 40:05
  or anything like that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Uncle Ben hasn't been on
• 40:07
  screen once.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: They've never mentioned... I don't know if they've ever actually
• 40:11
  mentioned Uncle Ben. And that's the thing. Because I remember
• 40:14
  I thought... especially with No Way Home, maybe they would
• 40:18
  say something about Uncle Ben, because all you ever know is,
• 40:20
  oh yeah, his aunt raises him.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, none of the other Spider-Men, did they bring up
• 40:24
  Uncle Ben at all?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: The only time Uncle Ben is brought up with Tom
• 40:28
  Holland is when, spoiler alert, No Way Home, is when
• 40:30
  he talks to Toby and Andrew, and he says the line,
• 40:34
  and they both go, Uncle Ben said that. And of course,
• 40:36
  Peter's not like, who the fuck is Uncle Ben?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: He just goes.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Anyway. Yeah. Like, has Uncle Ben an asshole in your
• 40:45
  universe or something?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: It makes you think. I haven't thought about that until
• 40:51
  just now. I'm like, man.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Well, because I remember I was... Because it's like that
• 40:55
  known thing.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Like....
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: You know batman his parents got shot uh.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Peter parker superman's from a different planet.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Right his and peter parker his uncle gets killed like.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Peter parker became a professional wrestler and got some extra
• 41:09
  money until then he left.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: And then i was ready uh-huh but watch your man
• 41:14
  randy savages everybody knows this it's just it's.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like water is wet america's apple pie
• 41:22
  Randy Savage as Bonesaw McGraw in Spider-Man 1.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Five minutes of playtime.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: You ain't going nowhere.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Where's that guy's Academy Award?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry. Best Supporting Actor.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Bonesaw.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: No, and the thing I'd like to is like.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I'd like to accept this award. Uh-huh. I have a
• 41:56
  little macho maniacs. Sorry, I'm getting a little misty-eyed.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Hogan never got one of these, brother.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Well, actually, dude, I got one in Japan in 1985
• 42:13
  when I traveled because actually in one course of 100 days...
• 42:17
  I actually wrestled 575 times if you count travel time, brother.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I was wrestling two guys with one hand.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. But the thing, the thing, back to, sorry, back,
• 42:28
  back to Radio Day, but to go off your point,
• 42:30
  I love like how you said, it was like a,
• 42:31
  you said it was like a, it was like a
• 42:32
  four point or whatever it was.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Four arc story. Yeah, four arc.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: The thing I like is like, obviously when he realizes like,
• 42:38
  oh wait, I'm helping the wrong person. I thought, they
• 42:41
  didn't like do this whole like, I love how they
• 42:44
  didn't like, what's the term, focus on it where it's like,
• 42:47
  we got to talk about this for 30 minutes. It's like,
• 42:49
  Oh no, I fucked up.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Let me go help out.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I got cool now. Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I got to go now.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: There were so many really good plot threads in this movie.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Like the whole idea of Mary Jane figuring it out.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Right. Kind of like that. Peter was Spider-Man more or less.
• 43:08
  And then like the moment.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: That we've kind of been waiting for, it's like, man,
• 43:12
  we just really want to see them reconnect. She finds
• 43:15
  the letter that he leaves behind.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Reads it without him really getting to explain in person.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Right. And then the reaction is so genuine. It's like,
• 43:24
  this person doesn't like exist anymore. This relationship doesn't exist.
• 43:29
  I don't feel what you feel right now.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And that's like such a realistic interpretation of how that
• 43:39
  would go.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Well, as soon as he left her at that boat,
• 43:44
  the crowd, like the people, it's like, well, he left
• 43:46
  that letter behind.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Like, I could see where it was going. But, like,
• 43:51
  and here's the thing. I do believe, like, that's been, like,
• 43:55
  the long, like, debate. Not even, like, rumor. It was like, oh, yeah, like,
• 43:58
  when the next movie comes out, he'll kiss her and
• 43:59
  she'll get her memory back. He technically never kissed her.
• 44:04
  He only kissed her when she was mind-controlled. Which I
• 44:07
  thought that would be.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Because what happens.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: See, in making Mary Jane a villain, that was, like,
• 44:14
  the irredeemable thing, right? Right.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: It's like....
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that's like double sexual assault.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Jesus!
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: You possessed the man's mind of somebody else to have
• 44:30
  somebody else kiss them.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: They were thinking they were kissing somebody else, but they
• 44:33
  were really kissing somebody else. Oh my god!
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: You hit them both at once. Not that that's a
• 44:41
  funny subject, but Jesus!
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: But realistically, how are you coming back from that?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my god like how are you like saving her
• 44:50
  at the end well obviously.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Obviously zendaya is like a phenomenal phenomenal actor so of
• 44:55
  course she could play that evil you know conniving bitch
• 44:57
  really well because like you know he thinks he's you
• 44:59
  know he got the love of his life back and
• 45:01
  she's like actually no i'm just i'm just i'm just
• 45:03
  using the girl you want to be with as a
• 45:04
  puppet fuck you.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Right and she sends her off the side of a
• 45:07
  building you're right crazy crazy towns right.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I will say sadie's like did a phenomenal job as
• 45:12
  jean great but like for real The two things.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: And, like, again, I love.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And this is the thing I love.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Like, all the.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, yeah, she'll get her memory back when they kiss.
• 45:20
  And I love, like, how did the movie end? How
• 45:22
  it should. He does his handshake with Ned, which is
• 45:25
  fucking awesome.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, like... Ned immediately knows who he is.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Right away. You know, like a light switch.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, hey, Peter.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, you know. But I
• 45:35
  do have to say the most redeeming quality about this movie. First,
• 45:39
  one thing. I am happy that... So the biggest complaint
• 45:44
  about Tom Holland's Spider-Man is I haven't had a problem
• 45:47
  with it because of the universe he's in. I want
• 45:50
  to make that clear. But I get the criticism is
• 45:53
  that he is Iron Man Jr. This movie, not so much. Sure,
• 45:57
  he's still a very smart guy. He knows how to
• 46:01
  use tech. He obviously, it's the classic Spider-Man. His web
• 46:04
  shooters are not organic. Hold that thought. They're not organic.
• 46:08
  But then it comes into the play where it's like,
• 46:10
  I love how they, because that's the thing. Because like,
• 46:14
  Tobey Maguire, he said, because, like, I'll never forget, like,
• 46:16
  I don't know exactly, like, when they added the organic
• 46:19
  webbing in the Sam Raimi movies, but Tobey Maguire, there's
• 46:22
  literally an interview that's been going around, that went around
• 46:23
  when the movie came out, and someone's like, like, hey, like,
• 46:26
  where'd you guys go with this organic webbing thing? And
• 46:28
  he's like, look, based on the situation he's in, if
• 46:32
  he's that smart where he can make this stuff, you're
• 46:35
  telling me he wouldn't find a way to make money
• 46:38
  off of something like that, but, like, wouldn't make it obvious?
• 46:42
  And it's like, you've got a point.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: It's like, especially with the situation.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Regardless of that, in the original comics, it didn't matter
• 46:51
  that he could make this stuff. He was still in
• 46:53
  the Daily Bugle, right?
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Again, it's old-timey Golden Age comic logic where it's like,
• 46:58
  this guy who can invent this synthetic web fluid that's
• 47:01
  stronger than steel or whatever, he still has to work
• 47:03
  as a reporter and a photographer in the Daily Bugle.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: And everyone goes, okay, cool, cool, cool.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and I love, and I love how they
• 47:13
  integrate like the organic weapon into here. Cause it's like,
• 47:16
  you can, that's obvious. It's like, I mean, it's, they
• 47:19
  already announced the movie, but I love how they're going
• 47:21
  to like that whole like mutation.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Like your, your, what would they call it? Your arachnia
• 47:27
  is increasing because of your stress levels and all this shit.
• 47:29
  And like, you know, his eyes are black and like, no,
• 47:34
  and supposedly he actually tried to, he wanted to do
• 47:36
  the human spider. But according to multiple execs, they're like,
• 47:40
  we want kids to see this movie.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Not see weird, crazy growths. I'm not going to lie.
• 47:45
  I'm not going to lie.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: They made the right call.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Well, look. So back to the source material, right? There
• 47:52
  is a story.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: It's not the six-armed Spider-Man story, but it's a more
• 47:55
  recent story where he does go through this secondary mutation
• 47:59
  where it's like the same idea. It's more heady in
• 48:02
  that he's seeing a vision of this crazy spider, man
• 48:05
  spider thing. And it's talking to him like it is
• 48:08
  some kind of other being. And that kind of went
• 48:12
  into the... I think it went into the whole Inheritor storyline,
• 48:16
  which is way more in line with what the Spider-Verse
• 48:20
  is doing, where all these Spider-Men from across the universe, multiverse, whatever,
• 48:24
  they exist for a reason because they're part of this
• 48:26
  bigger thing. But the story was him having to choose
• 48:31
  between letting the spider.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: in or like keeping it at bay.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: And again, like the same thing happened where he woke
• 48:38
  up in kind of a cocoon sort of thing.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Um, and he got these new powers and, and so
• 48:44
  they're borrowing.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: From super fucking jacked, super jacked, super duper jacked, gets
• 48:49
  massive headaches. Um, but, uh, you know, but so they're
• 48:54
  borrowing that and which they've done in other movies from
• 48:57
  the past where they take the source material and And
• 48:59
  they fit it in differently or they adapt it in
• 49:02
  a way where it makes more sense or it's more
• 49:05
  cohesive to a story that they're doing. Which again, like
• 49:09
  looking ahead to Doomsday, I'm really excited for that because
• 49:12
  they're borrowing from a really impactful, great story by I
• 49:18
  think Jonathan Hickman, C.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Wars where doom kind of you.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Know it's a that's a way bigger lead-up than i
• 49:25
  think we're going to get but it does involve the
• 49:27
  incursions in a way yeah but you know to see
• 49:31
  the spider-man story played out where the secondary mutation takes
• 49:34
  hold and He does get the organic webs.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I think it was weird.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: It was interesting to see him play with it back
• 49:40
  and forth where it's like, nope, don't like that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to put a chip on my neck.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: And get my web shooters back on.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: So it's not like he didn't have anything. He had
• 49:55
  his web shooters already.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I think it was a really cool play on that
• 50:00
  where it's like, I don't want this. I want to
• 50:03
  go back to being the old spider-man with like the
• 50:06
  stuff i know how to use right so well and
• 50:09
  i think there was some speaking of kids being in
• 50:11
  the movie being.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: For kids when he first is trying to use the
• 50:16
  organic webbing and.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: It's just kind of shooting out all loosey-goosey all over
• 50:22
  the place come on we're really gonna split hairs with
• 50:26
  like six arms if we're making a movie for kids
• 50:29
  all the adults in the theater are laughing and the
• 50:30
  kids like oh.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: You know I was laughing too because I knew exactly like.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Kid leans over to dad why is that funny dad
• 50:36
  you'll know when you're older you'll find.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Out in 10 years bub well again I remember I
• 50:41
  remember again Spider-Man I mean it's one of my favorite
• 50:44
  characters it's like for me it's Batman and Spider-Man it's
• 50:46
  like 1A and 1B it's like who's your favorite like
• 50:48
  depends on the day but like I remember seeing Spider-Man
• 50:51
  1 in the theater and there was that famous scene
• 50:53
  where he you know shoots Webb for the first time
• 50:55
  and like he was trying to figure out like how
• 50:56
  the fuck did I do that You know, it was like.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Go, Webb!
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Fly!
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Up, up, and away!
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: It did harken back to that, where he's, like, got
• 51:03
  Mary Jane under his arm, and he's like, Webb, go.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Webb, stop. Trying to be really.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's funny, because it's, like, funny, like, a
• 51:09
  little humor. It's like, and I think it's, like, a full,
• 51:11
  if anything, it's, like, a full story, because it's like, okay, like, obviously, for, like,
• 51:13
  you and I, like, we saw that as kids, like, okay,
• 51:15
  that's funny. But then, like, you know, now we're, like,
• 51:17
  how we are, and, like, right away, we see Tom
• 51:19
  Holland trying to do it. It's like, okay, we know
• 51:21
  exactly what the fuck they're saying. Yeah.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: And it's... Yeah, there's not.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: It's one of those things where they're doing it, they're
• 51:28
  not doing it to be gross, but it's like, hey,
• 51:31
  if you know, you know. It's funny. But I just
• 51:38
  really enjoy it. And I gotta say, the most redeeming
• 51:40
  thing other than a gimmick like a Spider-Man street level
• 51:44
  stuff was Awesome Hulk, man. Like, Angry Hulk.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: And I think they did such a great job setting... Like,
• 51:55
  first of all, getting into.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: That naturally, right?
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: But also, the implications going forward for what that sets
• 52:01
  up are so.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: So cool. Right.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: And even though it's small, the amount of chaos that
• 52:09
  happened in the span of five minutes was insane.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Just from Hulk being unleashed again. Yeah, it's crazy. Right.
• 52:14
  We missed that. We missed that in the movies for
• 52:16
  a while.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Like, we never got to see Hulk go toe-to-toe with
• 52:19
  Thanos a second time.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Well, that's because Hulk was a bitch once.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he had integrated himself. Well, he was scared, right?
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was scared because he had his ass kicked. Right.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: And so, dude, I hope we get a fucking Hulk movie, man,
• 52:35
  for real. See, that's the thing.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: There's so many people that want it, but I think
• 52:40
  Universal has the rights, and they just don't want to
• 52:42
  do it. It's one of those things, I think, where
• 52:46
  Marvel knows they can make more money just by using
• 52:49
  him as a side character in movies and trying to
• 52:51
  find some weird deal to get to do a solo
• 52:54
  Hulk movie and then have, you know, have to split
• 52:57
  the bill, have to split the profit or the reward
• 53:00
  with universal. I think that's all it is.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I think my favorite scenes in the movie had those
• 53:05
  side characters in it. Hulk Punisher, especially writing the scene
• 53:09
  where Hulk Hulk's out and is chasing him down the
• 53:11
  hallway and the camera spinning 360 degrees. That was one
• 53:16
  of the coolest shots I think I've seen in one
• 53:18
  of these movies in a long time. Um, Because it
• 53:22
  perfectly encapsulates that interaction, right? Hulk is just barreling through
• 53:27
  everything in his path, and Spider-Man is doing everything in
• 53:30
  his power to just bounce around and get out of
• 53:32
  there as.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Fast as possible.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: And I love how, like, obviously the Punisher's involved. He
• 53:38
  doesn't know what the fuck's going on. And Spider-Man's like,
• 53:40
  this is way under your pay grade! And he's like,
• 53:43
  no shit! But they did such a good job having
• 53:47
  him not get fucking smacked by the Hulk. That, like,
• 53:51
  it worked. Because, like, and it's, like, and I love, and, like,
• 53:53
  here's the thing. I've only recently gotten back into comic books.
• 53:57
  Pardon me. I'm trying to get back into podcasting. It's
• 54:00
  a little rough. But, like, I don't know, like, all
• 54:04
  these crazy comics by heart. I've read a lot of, like,
• 54:06
  absolute ones. I just read Absolute Green Lantern, by the way.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've read that. Really good, right? I.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm not a Green Lantern guy. I just never
• 54:17
  really liked the whole thing.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: You gotta go back and read Blackest Night.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I've heard that one, but I
• 54:23
  just finished Volume 1. I have Volume 2 on standby.
• 54:26
  I'm beyond psyched for... I don't want to start... I
• 54:32
  want to read Absolute Batman again because Volume 3 comes
• 54:34
  out in a week and I already have it pre-ordered.
• 54:36
  But the reason is I know... or it's not like
• 54:41
  I know it's like, it's like a cult, like a
• 54:43
  nerd culture thing. Like you just, you've seen these famous
• 54:47
  covers of comic books before from like these really nostalgic,
• 54:51
  legendary comics. And like, they did so, and like, again,
• 54:54
  like they did so many, and so they show some
• 54:56
  of the trailer of course, but they did so many
• 54:59
  like tips of the hat to some of these comics.
• 55:02
  And like my favorite, like, of course, like I love
• 55:04
  like the end, like with the punisher, when we get
• 55:05
  to the end here in a second, like the punisher shooting, um,
• 55:08
  like the, the way they did that was great. The
• 55:10
  Punisher taken to the hospital was good. Obviously Spider-Man, you know,
• 55:14
  Spider-Man just winning with a guy in his arm. Like
• 55:16
  it was all just good. And they did such a
• 55:18
  good job. And here's the thing. I, I like, I'm
• 55:19
  not saying I was shocked, but like the guy that
• 55:22
  directed this is the guy who did Shun Chi. Awesome movie. I,
• 55:26
  I was criminally underrated.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: And his name is Daniel, uh, Daniel, something Creston.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I forget.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if there's like a middle name
• 55:33
  in there. Anyway. Um, He was supposed to originally do Endgame.
• 55:39
  Or not Endgame, Doomsday. Oh, what? Or not technically Kane Dynasty,
• 55:43
  then it all changed and stuff like that. He was
• 55:45
  supposed to do that. But now he's doing the Naruto movie,
• 55:51
  I believe? Shit, okay. Yeah, because people are saying, this
• 55:53
  guy just took, because the point I'm trying to make
• 55:54
  is this guy took over Again, he's not just doing
• 56:01
  the Tom Holland movies. He's doing, with Tom Holland, when
• 56:03
  Tom Holland worked with a different director for the three movies,
• 56:06
  the same director, but not with this guy. So it's
• 56:08
  kind of like, okay, how is that going to mesh?
• 56:10
  You have a new guy come. It's nice that you
• 56:12
  can give his new spin on it, but it's like
• 56:14
  sometimes if it ain't broke, don't fix. But I like
• 56:18
  the fact that, again, the point I'm trying to make
• 56:21
  is this movie is very different than the other three.
• 56:25
  And I love No Way Home. It'll have always a
• 56:27
  huge place in my heart. especially cause like that was
• 56:29
  right coming, like right, like there was like right when
• 56:32
  the pandemic stuff was pretty much cooling down.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: It's like movie theaters were packed. It was Christmas. Like,
• 56:37
  you know, I was like, all right, all's right in
• 56:38
  the world, you know? But like, I will say this one,
• 56:41
  I think topped it in terms of like overall now
• 56:44
  nostalgia and like, you know, like, Oh, what was my heart?
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we're no way home.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Excel was those ensemble cast moments where everybody's getting their
• 56:52
  little lines and stuff. And of course the nostalgia is
• 56:55
  a huge factor because we get to see these characters
• 56:57
  all again.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: And, you know, tell a new story. Yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think in terms of actual storytelling, in
• 57:03
  terms of the script itself, in terms of, you know,
• 57:06
  the action sequences, I think is where that director really shown,
• 57:10
  especially the fights.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: With the hand, right?
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Like completely over the top Kung Fu choreography and sick
• 57:17
  as hell. Um, and then you threw Spider-Man in there,
• 57:21
  but I think ninjas, yeah. In terms of like overall,
• 57:24
  like experience, this was, I think a better movie.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, you know, aside from those big nostalgia moments. Right.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: But where, um, but all the characters mesh well together. Sorry,
• 57:35
  but everyone like, like everyone got their moment and like,
• 57:37
  there was so many people in like so many side
• 57:39
  characters and main characters. Like it never felt.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Dude, I love John in this movie. Yeah.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: The Punisher.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I love the Punisher in this movie. I love the
• 57:47
  Punisher in the show. I love the Punisher in the
• 57:49
  dare and daredevil. I still have to watch the last
• 57:53
  kill or whatever.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: So do I, uh, I really want to watch it
• 57:57
  so bad. I've heard nothing but good things.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: I think one of my favorite memories from watching this
• 58:03
  movie was that, spoiler alert, Punisher is going to do
• 58:08
  Punisher things and is going to just shoot Jean Grey.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: She's going to kill a bunch of people.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Kudos to him for doing what he thought was right. Spider-Man,
• 58:18
  even though his mind was wrapped up, Spider-Sense kicked in,
• 58:21
  jumped in front, took the bullet.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: And it was not just any old bullet. It was
• 58:24
  like a. 50 caliber bullet. fucking sniper.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Well, it was the callback to the comic. Like it
• 58:28
  was great.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Not great that he got shot, but it was great.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: No.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: Well, but then of course, you know, John Bernthal, Bernthal
• 58:37
  has humanized the punisher to.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: A degree where he's like, I got to save this
• 58:40
  fucking kid. Right. And so then he gets to the hospital.
• 58:43
  It's all slow motion and he's like yelling. Right. And
• 58:46
  I lean over to my buddy and I'm like.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Somebody give me a fucking doctor.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Cause that's what he said. It was awesome.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: In his classic Jon Bertholdt voice.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I love John Bernthal.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those moments between the two of them.
• 59:10
  And then, you know, fourth wall kind of being a thing.
• 59:14
  Knowing how integral each Tom Holland and John Bernthal were
• 59:19
  to the other and getting those roles.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Seeing them on screen, it gave you the
• 59:25
  warm and fuzzies a bit.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: For those listening, essentially, when they both did their auditions
• 59:31
  for their respective characters together they did their live tapes
• 59:35
  together they had the other one do the live reef
• 59:37
  and while they like did like hey i'm spider-man hey
• 59:39
  i'm punisher like this is like what 10 years ago
• 59:41
  or some shit like it's a crazy full circle thing
• 59:45
  like the fact that actually happened.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: And then even beyond that to know that they were
• 59:49
  also in the odyssey at the same time this movie
• 59:52
  came out right crazy summer for those two.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: And I, I don't know, I've, I don't know for
• 59:57
  a fact, but I, I've heard they had scenes together.
• 59:59
  I know that actually on the trailer, they did have
• 1:00:01
  one scene together, which is like, what the fuck?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Like, but, um, but yeah, I think, you know, the,
• 1:00:09
  the side characters, those interactions that really drove the story.
• 1:00:13
  And of course, you know, I think it, it just, yeah,
• 1:00:17
  it was a feel good movie. And in the, not
• 1:00:19
  in the way that it like, of course it had
• 1:00:21
  a positive ending cause it's a superhero movie or whatever.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Not all superhero movies have a positive ending.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: And not part one of Infinity War, but regardless. That one, notoriously,
• 1:00:33
  bad time for everybody involved. But in the way that
• 1:00:37
  a good movie makes you feel, I went on a
• 1:00:41
  fucking ride. I went on a journey, and I got
• 1:00:45
  something out of it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: And then the big question comes, and here's the biggest
• 1:00:50
  thing that I think they're gonna have to answer and
• 1:00:56
  we'll get to our review here in a second we
• 1:00:58
  can get out of here in a second is spoiler
• 1:01:01
  i mean obviously we said spoiler the post-credit scene now
• 1:01:07
  i like where i like like it's kind i think
• 1:01:11
  it's kind of not gonna say obvious like what it's
• 1:01:13
  hinting at but it's kind of like all right with
• 1:01:15
  what's coming out you kind of get an idea something
• 1:01:17
  might be going on not gonna spoil anything or that
• 1:01:19
  stuff like no but like It's one of those things
• 1:01:21
  where they have not announced... Here's the thing. Spider-Man is
• 1:01:24
  not a character, like Tom Holland, is not a character
• 1:01:27
  that you have... No, don't get me wrong. It'd be
• 1:01:29
  great for the audience. He is not a character that
• 1:01:32
  you say, oh, he's going to show up in this
• 1:01:33
  movie as a surprise. Because, here's the thing. Is Avengers
• 1:01:36
  going to make a lot of money?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: But, as this movie... Okay, here's the perfect way to
• 1:01:42
  say this. As Spider-Man has shown, okay? Spider-Man has shown.
• 1:01:48
  I believe domestically... Yeah, domestically... He beat Endgame.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Okay? Spider-Man beat the Avengers.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: That is a guy that, again, it is literally, it's
• 1:02:00
  not licensed to print money, it's fuck you licensed to
• 1:02:03
  print money. Like, because it is a guaranteed, you're going
• 1:02:06
  to make a lot of money. Now, sure, have all
• 1:02:08
  the Spider-Man movies made a lot of money?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Like, one time, I think the first Tom Holland movie made, like, no,
• 1:02:12
  I'm not going to buy it. Oh, it made, like,
• 1:02:14
  800 million. But, like, it didn't make, like, a gazillion dollars.
• 1:02:18
  But the thing is, though, every Spider-Man movie has, I'm
• 1:02:21
  pretty sure, probably a lot has been financially successful. Because
• 1:02:27
  they always make their money back and then some kind
• 1:02:29
  of profit. Because it's just, it's literally, it's just that
• 1:02:33
  IP and that character is so beloved. It's so relatable
• 1:02:36
  to everybody almost that like, it's like, how can I
• 1:02:39
  not want to be invested and like see what happens
• 1:02:42
  with this character that I've invested in? God knows how
• 1:02:44
  many years, how many dollars in toys, video games, merch, all.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: That stuff into.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: And on top of that, it's the portrayal, too. The
• 1:02:51
  portrayal of the character Tom Holland's performance, too.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: There's never been a bad... I mean, I've also said there,
• 1:02:58
  I don't think there's ever been a bad Batman. I
• 1:03:00
  throw Clooney in there. I'll be the first to admit that.
• 1:03:02
  Are there other ones better than him? Yes, but I
• 1:03:04
  don't think it's bad. But there's never been a bad Spider-Man.
• 1:03:07
  There's a reason why everyone's like, oh my God, I
• 1:03:09
  love Garfield.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I love Holland.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: You can love them all. They're all good at it.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: And it's the tone of the movie, too, right? Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  I think Andrew Garfield struggled because the tone was a
• 1:03:18
  lot bleaker. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd agree with that.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Tom Holland, I think they hit the right pitch. You
• 1:03:26
  know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: And the benefit of having the same director for the
• 1:03:31
  first three movies was that that tone.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Was consistent, right? Mm-hmm. And even when he... The Avengers
• 1:03:37
  movies are always going to be this outlier, right? Because
• 1:03:40
  you had so many different.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: directors make those separate movies and then you had them
• 1:03:47
  all all those characters.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Come together in one movie right so it's a weird
• 1:03:52
  it's a weird.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Thing uh that's happening right but even still like you
• 1:03:58
  said like what is this what is going to happen
• 1:04:00
  in what is alluded to in that post-credit scene right
• 1:04:07
  he is somewhere that's not on earth you know what
• 1:04:10
  i'm saying and not locatable.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do think he'll pop up, like, probably
• 1:04:15
  in the post-credits scene or, like, the ending because, like,
• 1:04:17
  he's going to have to be in Secret Wars. But, like,
• 1:04:20
  it's just one of the scenes, like, and that's what's so,
• 1:04:23
  how I put it. It's the thing that, like, while
• 1:04:26
  the multiverse saga has not been as successful as they
• 1:04:30
  want it to be, not all, I'm not getting into
• 1:04:32
  the whole logistics of why and what happened and all
• 1:04:34
  that stuff. I've done that to death. But, like, in
• 1:04:36
  terms of, like, hey, here's why this didn't work or
• 1:04:40
  this didn't work. It's one of those things where because
• 1:04:42
  so much of it, if anything, hasn't worked, there's so
• 1:04:46
  much unknown going into this that it's kind of like
• 1:04:50
  you don't know. You know who's in it because they've
• 1:04:52
  announced who's in it. They've obviously some– not like surprise, like, oh,
• 1:04:56
  so-and-so might show up. It's like, no, like Magneto from
• 1:04:58
  the Fox– Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart are going to
• 1:05:01
  be– it's like, wait, what the fuck?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: But like they've done– and by the way, I'm sorry.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: They're already, they're pretty much promoting it. Like, I'm pretty
• 1:05:09
  much convinced Wolverine and Deadpool made it because they've done
• 1:05:12
  marketing with them. Like, they've literally, it's literally on all
• 1:05:17
  their socials.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, that Gambit somehow made it into that movie.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it makes sense.
• 1:05:22
  And like, and here, by the way, they put out
• 1:05:23
  a list. They put out a list. They're like, here
• 1:05:26
  are the movies you need to watch before Doomsday. And obviously, Deadpool, Wolverine,
• 1:05:29
  it's like, oh, there hasn't been, it's like, no, I
• 1:05:31
  said they put them on there because of Gambit. But also,
• 1:05:32
  at the same time, it's like, they also probably put
• 1:05:34
  them on there because of, but, At the same time, too,
• 1:05:38
  it's that because of how.
• 1:05:42
  Like I said, how much of a mess, almost, you
• 1:05:45
  could say the multiverse was. It wasn't all a mess,
• 1:05:47
  but some of it was. There's so much unknown going
• 1:05:49
  into this. It's like, you don't know what's going to happen.
• 1:05:52
  You don't know who's going to show up, unless you read.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: The spoilers, which, obviously, try to avoid those.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: But, like, it's just the whole thing. Because, like, obviously,
• 1:05:59
  it's like, you know this goes to Secret Wars. But, like,
• 1:06:01
  the nice thing about Disney MCU is... as you said,
• 1:06:06
  like with the secret wars, there really isn't like, like,
• 1:06:09
  I mean, at least to my understanding, there's not like
• 1:06:10
  a lot like preluding into that. It just like goes
• 1:06:12
  into a kind of thing. But I love, I mean,
• 1:06:16
  I love that story. It's a great story. Like the,
• 1:06:18
  I haven't read the old classroom. I read the updated
• 1:06:20
  one with like miles and all that stuff, but.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Like 15 one. Yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: But there's, and there's so much unknown that like when it,
• 1:06:26
  like you just go into, but it's like with this,
• 1:06:28
  you don't, you, you get, if you know the story
• 1:06:29
  of secret wars, you kind of get what they're going
• 1:06:30
  with it. But the problem is like I was saying,
• 1:06:33
  Disney and MCU, like as they should, they like to
• 1:06:36
  change it up so it's not as predictable, so it's
• 1:06:38
  not as obvious.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and there's also a lot of
• 1:06:40
  pieces that they don't have.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Like, the Beyonders are a big part of that 2015
• 1:06:45
  Secret Wars.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The Molecule Man.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: That's the big one. He's not in that. Well, he's
• 1:06:50
  not in anything yet.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: The crux of it, basically.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: And, of course, the incursions happening are already established in
• 1:06:58
  the MCU, right? So they have that. But, like, there's
• 1:07:02
  tools that they don't have. And so, like, the workaround
• 1:07:04
  for it, is going to be interesting. So, I mean,
• 1:07:08
  I'm set to see these characters on screen. I'm set
• 1:07:12
  to see Captain America come back, even though I'm thinking
• 1:07:16
  he's probably going to be like evil Captain America, maybe
• 1:07:20
  a take on that story.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Give me Nomad, baby.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not even talking about that.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about when Red Skull rewrote his history to
• 1:07:29
  make him a secret Hydra agent the whole time. And
• 1:07:31
  so he, Hydra, Captain America, but, I don't think they'll
• 1:07:35
  do that, but I think they'll do something similar to that.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens, man. He could still lift
• 1:07:40
  up the hammer, even.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Though he was Hydra Captain America or whatever the fuck.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: People call him Steve-ville. It's a joke. But he was
• 1:07:50
  still worthy, quote-unquote. It doesn't matter if you're a good
• 1:07:54
  guy or a bad guy if you're worthy, right? So whatever.
• 1:07:57
  Either way.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Either way, I had to get my tickets because when
• 1:08:02
  they came out, I was just working. I didn't get any.
• 1:08:04
  They're all gone. I'll find some. It's just crazy how.
• 1:08:10
  Again, just the fact that they're all... There's people who
• 1:08:14
  think this will be a $ 3 billion movie. Honestly, I
• 1:08:17
  can't blame them.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: I don't care about how much money it makes. I
• 1:08:22
  just hope it's a good movie. I hope it's worth
• 1:08:24
  the time and the effort.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Again, like you said, they had to pivot. with the
• 1:08:29
  King stuff. Yeah. They had to pivot with it.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Even if the whole Jonathan Majors thing didn't happen, I
• 1:08:36
  still think it would because it just wasn't working. It
• 1:08:39
  just wasn't working. Like I said, I'm not going to
• 1:08:41
  get into the whole logistics of why, but you could
• 1:08:45
  just tell it just wasn't hitting like people thought it
• 1:08:48
  was going to, which is fine. Not everything Marvel does
• 1:08:52
  is going to work. There were more there were movies
• 1:08:54
  in the first whatever it was 1921 before endgame that
• 1:08:59
  they weren't all like you know oh my god this
• 1:09:01
  movie's amazing it's like okay i.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Mean yeah but like the problem they have now is
• 1:09:08
  that they set the bar so just stupidly.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: High right right where it was a perfect storm of.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Everything With this also, you got Downey coming back and
• 1:09:19
  you know what he's playing, but you don't know what
• 1:09:21
  they're going to play with that.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of interesting things.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: It's not just about the story they've told so far.
• 1:09:29
  It's about some external things of Downey Jr. coming back
• 1:09:33
  as Dr.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Doom. The introduction of the Fantastic Four. The looming... The looming....
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: You know, fucking storm cloud of the X-Men in the
• 1:09:47
  background that we all want so, so bad because that's
• 1:09:50
  like the ultimate nostalgia for Marvel outside of Spider-Man was
• 1:09:54
  the X-Men, right?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: So we all want them to just do it justice.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: All I care about is just make sure James Marsden
• 1:10:01
  gets his moment because if anyone got screwed out of
• 1:10:03
  the whole X-Men thing, it was him.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Cyclops. Just dies. I miss my girlfriend so bad.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to sit on this ridge.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Die. And Cyclops is such a fucking cool character.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. He's supposed to be like.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: He's a badass.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: He's a badass. He is literally Captain America but badder
• 1:10:30
  and has all these abilities and obviously gets you fucking
• 1:10:33
  lasers from his eyes and shit.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: That's so cool.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: But even then it's like There's so much more to him.
• 1:10:38
  He's like just a master tactician, combat, like fucking hand-to-hand shit.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah. And then he can shoot lasers at you,
• 1:10:45
  and it's crazy.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I'm playing that new Marvel fighting game, and they announced
• 1:10:51
  the first character as not just Cyclops, but Cyclops when
• 1:10:56
  he was possessed by the Phoenix Force.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Well, there you go. So he should just destroy everybody.
• 1:11:03
  In the comics, he literally did.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: He killed Professor Xavier and, like, fucking remade the Earth
• 1:11:07
  and shit.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: It was wild.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: It was wild.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: It was wild. With that being said, we can get
• 1:11:13
  out of here. I know it's a little bit late,
• 1:11:14
  so I do want to... I do want to... I
• 1:11:16
  know we're just too excited. We're just happy to be back,
• 1:11:18
  but I do.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Want to ask... 210, baby.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: With that being said, what would you give this brand-new film?
• 1:11:29
  What would you give it?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing. I.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: The one record that it's not, it's obviously going to
• 1:11:35
  be in the top five all-time movies. The one record
• 1:11:37
  it probably won't catch is the all-time domestic record, which
• 1:11:40
  belongs to Star Wars Force Awakens. There was a point, actually,
• 1:11:44
  not that long ago, where it was literally 50-50, but
• 1:11:47
  it's one of those scenes where we're like, okay, on
• 1:11:48
  this day, they need to make this amount, and of course,
• 1:11:51
  if they don't make it that day, the next day,
• 1:11:53
  it obviously goes up, and it's only gone, and it's like,
• 1:11:57
  It just doesn't look like it.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Because we don't know when.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: They're going to pull it. But obviously, at a certain point,
• 1:12:01
  movie theaters will be like, hey, no one's coming to
• 1:12:03
  see this movie anymore. Please take it out.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: But that being said, I'm going to give it a
• 1:12:11
  9 out of 10.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: 9 slurps out of 10 slurps. All right. I think
• 1:12:16
  even having missed the first 20 minutes, I.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Think it was a great cast, great script, great action
• 1:12:26
  yep great moments and just a great story a great
• 1:12:32
  uh another another great addition in the modern spider-man uh
• 1:12:37
  line of films yeah um i.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: I will also agree with you i will go i.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Will go nine.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: I will go nine John Bertholz dancing in a Spider-Man
• 1:12:55
  mask out of ten. Awesome. Because here's the thing. That
• 1:13:02
  was awesome, by the way. That's great.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Nine flaccid web streams out of ten.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Nine smelly web streams out of ten. Here's the thing.
• 1:13:17
  I think this is the best street-level Spider-Man movie ever.
• 1:13:22
  For me, Spider-Man 2 is still the greatest Spider-Man movie
• 1:13:25
  ever made. However, I think that movie has gotten better
• 1:13:29
  with age. I think this movie in maybe five years
• 1:13:35
  will be in that conversation. Because obviously more Spider-Movies come
• 1:13:37
  out and shit like that. Because here's the thing. A
• 1:13:40
  lot of people, I'm not going to say sour, but
• 1:13:42
  a lot of people have soured on No Way Home.
• 1:13:44
  They're not as hyped as it used to be. It's like, yeah,
• 1:13:48
  but the story with what happened made sense. It does. Now,
• 1:13:54
  I think the hype for it was so big. Obviously,
• 1:13:56
  everything that happened was kind of predictable. But there were
• 1:13:58
  so many other things that were teased that didn't come
• 1:14:00
  into it. I think that's kind of why some people... Obviously,
• 1:14:03
  of course, Venom. That post-credits scene still pisses me off
• 1:14:06
  to this day now. Especially with this fucking movie now.
• 1:14:11
  Because I was like, let's.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Wait for it.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Are you going to show me something? But I still
• 1:14:17
  think that movie.
• 1:14:20
  For me, this is number two. And I'm not, and
• 1:14:22
  I stress, this is, like, right on, this is literally
• 1:14:26
  biting the heels of Spider-Man 2. I felt like, again, I,
• 1:14:31
  the thing I was worried about is, obviously, you know,
• 1:14:35
  they're going to do the street-level stuff. Obviously, the quote-unquote
• 1:14:39
  bad guy, you know, that everyone thought it was going
• 1:14:41
  to be was Jean Grey. But it's like, okay, you're
• 1:14:43
  going to have Jean Grey, you're going to have all
• 1:14:45
  these other characters that people know. How are you not
• 1:14:47
  going to have this thing get convoluted and just super, like, just, just,
• 1:14:52
  just a full, like, like I can't like focus in
• 1:14:54
  the story they told and the characters, they all had their,
• 1:14:56
  they all had their plot points. Like I said, Hulk's
• 1:14:58
  not in this that long, but like he did a great,
• 1:14:59
  he obviously did his service and job. Punisher, like anytime
• 1:15:02
  he was on camera, he, I think stole the show.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: But, but then like, and also like the Jean Grey
• 1:15:08
  story and like the Jean, that's the thing, like the
• 1:15:10
  Jean Grey Spider-Man story they told, it was really good.
• 1:15:12
  And the way it ended, you know what, that I
• 1:15:14
  won't spoil. I'll let the audience see that for themselves
• 1:15:16
  if they haven't seen it yet. The way they like put,
• 1:15:19
  put it together, I thought, okay, you know what? That's
• 1:15:22
  a good, that's like, cause I'm not gonna, I didn't
• 1:15:24
  expect that.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Cause it kind of, if anything, it's kind of like
• 1:15:27
  Spider-Man throwing her thing back at her and it worked.
• 1:15:30
  I was like, oh shit. But, um, yeah, I, I
• 1:15:34
  would get, I would go nine out of 10. And
• 1:15:35
  by the way, like I said, nine, nine, very close.
• 1:15:39
  Like if anything, if anything, the 10th, the 10th Bernthal
• 1:15:42
  was just like, I'm sick. Like he's been screaming too much,
• 1:15:46
  but yeah, I would go nine out of 10. So, uh,
• 1:15:49
  with that being said, Uh, that you were coming back on.
• 1:15:52
  It's been a minute.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: It is always a pleasure.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: It is always a pleasure having you on. Yes, we
• 1:15:56
  are done with these long breaks. I mean that I've
• 1:15:58
  missed this. Um, cause I'm trying to get better with this.
• 1:16:01
  I'm trying to get better with voice acting. Like I've
• 1:16:03
  been doing a class for the last eight weeks and
• 1:16:04
  that's not been the easiest just because of life. And
• 1:16:06
  then again, nothing bad. Just like life happens. You know
• 1:16:08
  what I mean? You get busy at work, this and that.
• 1:16:10
  And it's like, what was it? Uh, um, fuck.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Uh, Sunday. Long weekend, some stuff happened. Like, stuff with
• 1:16:19
  the car. Car's fine.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: We're all good.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: But, like, I came home. You know me. I don't
• 1:16:23
  take naps. I took a two-hour nap. I felt fucking great.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: I bet. Yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to take a 35-minute nap. Nope.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Well-timed nap goes hard.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: It was a great nap. And I woke up afterwards,
• 1:16:35
  and I felt fantastic. So, with that being said, we'll
• 1:16:40
  get out of here. But really quick, is there anything
• 1:16:41
  you need to plug, promote, get off your chest before
• 1:16:44
  we get the fuck out of here?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: No. Nah, man. Just be kind. Rewind.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Unwind.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Rewind. What's that? Anyway. Oh, if anything, actually, I know
• 1:16:55
  my final message. Somebody didn't get to. But yes, as always,
• 1:16:59
  OG Patron, thanks for coming on. I'm your favorite barman host.
• 1:17:01
  If you really want to call me Chuck, you can
• 1:17:03
  always find us at Chuck's Cantina. Chuck's Cantina on your socials.
• 1:17:06
  Chuck's Cantina on Podmatch. For those of you who have
• 1:17:08
  reached out to me on Podmatch, I'll get back to you.
• 1:17:10
  I apologize. I have reached out to some of you.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Again, I apologize.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Try to be better about it.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Life finds a way.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: But my message for all of you wonderful people this
• 1:17:19
  week if you had any drinks like actually myself I
• 1:17:22
  had a few glasses of wine please be smart please
• 1:17:23
  be safe call a ride share call a taxi call
• 1:17:26
  a friend or hell you know what especially if it's
• 1:17:28
  nice out that's what McGuire says go outside and play
• 1:17:30
  go for a nice walk walk home don't be dumb
• 1:17:33
  but here's my final message for all of you I'm
• 1:17:34
  not going to get into it because we kind of
• 1:17:36
  alluded to one of these companies earlier if you really
• 1:17:39
  want something you really want a movie that you love
• 1:17:43
  and cherish and you want to watch whatever you want
• 1:17:45
  by physical fucking media, okay?
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: And to those, you know who I'm talking about?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Fuck you. Enough said. Web.