Latest / Brian Thomas / Congressman Warren Davidson joins Brian Thomas this morning
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- 0:01Speaker 1: 7-0-6. Happy Thursday. Brian Thomas, always pleased to welcome to
- 0:06Speaker 1: the 55KRC Morning Show. There's some you can be proud
- 0:08Speaker 1: of and happy about and trust. That's Congressman Warren Davidson
- 0:11Speaker 1: among a very small list of those politicians. Welcome back,
- 0:13Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. Always enjoy having you on the 55KRC Morning Show.
- 0:18Speaker 2: It's my honor to join you. Thanks, Brian.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Let's just start with the 760,000 fraudulent Obamacare enrollments, which J.D.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Vance came out and identified. saving the American taxpayer roughly
- 0:28Speaker 1: $ 2. 2 billion. I just have to observe, it seems to
- 0:34Speaker 1: me that anybody who cares about fraud in any government
- 0:37Speaker 1: program could easily identify the mechanisms that allow for fraud
- 0:41Speaker 1: and plug the holes in the bucket that allow for that.
- 0:43Speaker 1: But you have to have a political will to do that.
- 0:46Speaker 1: And of course, allowing people who aren't eligible to enroll
- 0:49Speaker 1: in any given government plan, apparently, according to Kamala Harris
- 0:51Speaker 1: the other day, among the tools in the Democrat arsenal
- 0:56Speaker 1: of useful items to benefit their side of the political ledger.
- 1:00Speaker 1: But this is a great development. Is it not getting
- 1:04Speaker 1: rid of ineligible enrollees who literally are harming every single
- 1:07Speaker 1: American taxpayer?
- 1:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is why. But remember, Doge was partisan.
- 1:14Speaker 2: I mean, you bring it out. Department of Government Efficiency
- 1:18Speaker 2: was identifying all the failures in the system that were
- 1:22Speaker 2: allowing fraud to occur. We didn't have adequate accounting systems.
- 1:26Speaker 2: I mean, small businesses running QuickBooks had better controls than
- 1:30Speaker 2: a lot of our government agencies. And when you started
- 1:33Speaker 2: following the money and finding it, and don't forget, the
- 1:36Speaker 2: audit trail that's making a lot of this possible came
- 1:39Speaker 2: because Doge developed these new computer technologies, updated the accounting mechanisms.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Not all the way. There's still a lot of work
- 1:48Speaker 2: left to be done. But people are following it, following
- 1:52Speaker 2: the money. We're finding the fraud. We've created a whole
- 1:54Speaker 2: department at the Department of Justice to focus on this.
- 1:58Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to believe we didn't already do it.
- 2:01Speaker 2: But now not only is the fraud being detected, there
- 2:04Speaker 2: are charges being filed, and soon we will see people
- 2:07Speaker 2: actually going to jail, which is still one of the
- 2:10Speaker 2: most common questions I get in this job. When is
- 2:12Speaker 2: somebody going to jail? Well, that's underway right now. Yeah.
- 2:15Speaker 1: And it takes time, and I keep going back to
- 2:17Speaker 1: the folks that scream out loud like, how come nothing's
- 2:19Speaker 1: being done about it? Well, look, we just had an
- 2:21Speaker 1: announcement the other day, 760,000 ineligible Obamacare enrollees. That could
- 2:25Speaker 1: lead to some prosecutions. It takes time to develop a case,
- 2:28Speaker 1: gather the evidence, and create a file that will allow
- 2:31Speaker 1: a prosecutor to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. That's a
- 2:34Speaker 1: time-intensive process, and I'm willing to wait for it to
- 2:39Speaker 1: happen as long as it's being done. But pivoting over
- 2:40Speaker 1: to your statement, and it's true. The work Doge was doing,
- 2:44Speaker 1: I think, objectively nonpartisan because what were they doing? Getting
- 2:47Speaker 1: rid of fraud and of waste and, I guess, trying
- 2:50Speaker 1: to ensure that the money that actually went out into
- 2:53Speaker 1: the world to fund nongovernmental organizations doing whatever it is
- 2:56Speaker 1: they were doing, that they were actually doing what it
- 2:58Speaker 1: is they're getting paid for. We don't even know that.
- 3:01Speaker 1: So how does that prudent accounting exercise become partisan? Because
- 3:09Speaker 1: this is the American taxpayer dollar. That does not bear
- 3:11Speaker 1: a political stripe.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Well, they knew what would happen once they found, were
- 3:17Speaker 2: able to follow the money. Like, oh, all this money
- 3:19Speaker 2: is going to the friends and family plan for Democrats.
- 3:23Speaker 2: I mean, you've got laundered money everywhere. The nongovernment organizations
- 3:27Speaker 2: are essentially existent by government. Maybe the epitome of that
- 3:31Speaker 2: was when they had the EPA money and literally boasted
- 3:36Speaker 2: that they were like trying to shove gold bars off
- 3:38Speaker 2: the Titanic. between November and January to get rid of
- 3:42Speaker 2: all these grant dollars. And one of the grants, $ 2
- 3:46Speaker 2: billion to Stacey Abrams, to a nonprofit that never done
- 3:50Speaker 2: a dime worth of business, except open a bank account.
- 3:53Speaker 2: I mean, that's the kind of graft that was going on.
- 3:59Speaker 2: And we turned that off because we found it quickly.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And that That's gone on in spades. If you look
- 4:08Speaker 2: at USAID, the essential functions of USAID still go on
- 4:12Speaker 2: under the State Department, but they closed the entire department
- 4:17Speaker 2: down because this was a department that was using that
- 4:21Speaker 2: money to do nonprofits counter to the United States' interests.
- 4:24Speaker 2: I mean, I talked with ambassadors in multiple countries. as
- 4:28Speaker 2: a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, talked with ambassadors
- 4:30Speaker 2: in multiple countries who were saying, look, we want to
- 4:35Speaker 2: talk to you guys about trade. We want to talk
- 4:36Speaker 2: to you about investment. We want to talk about helping
- 4:39Speaker 2: you deal with this migration through, say, Guatemala, for example.
- 4:44Speaker 2: But the State Department only wants to talk to us
- 4:45Speaker 2: about LGBTQ plus issues, transgender issues, how to shift our country,
- 4:53Speaker 2: which has a constitutional requirement that to be pro-life and
- 4:58Speaker 2: no abortion, to be a pro-abortion country. I mean, all
- 5:01Speaker 2: these kinds of things are going on in country after
- 5:03Speaker 2: country with our tax dollars, actually worsening our impression in
- 5:07Speaker 2: a lot of the world.
- 5:08Speaker 1: So they're undermining the actual mission that they're supposed to
- 5:12Speaker 1: be on, which is to serve America's interests by undermining
- 5:15Speaker 1: all things American. So I don't know if that's necessarily
- 5:18Speaker 1: a form of fraud, waste, or abuse, but it is
- 5:20Speaker 1: a violation of the mission statement, I would argue. But
- 5:23Speaker 1: then I'm viewing this from the standpoint of partisanship, Every
- 5:27Speaker 1: single one of those things you just went through by
- 5:29Speaker 1: way of illustration. So it's their fraud, the Democrats' fraud.
- 5:34Speaker 1: It's their abuse of the taxpayer dollars. So that makes
- 5:37Speaker 1: it okay. I mean, that's really what we're left with.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they know a lot of the
- 5:44Speaker 2: things that they're doing aren't popular. They know some of
- 5:46Speaker 2: the things they're doing aren't legal. And another example is
- 5:50Speaker 2: their campaign funding. ActBlue has been caught with massive fraud,
- 5:55Speaker 2: clear money laundering, structuring. They're taking large dollars, and they've
- 6:01Speaker 2: found mobile times where they follow what's reported in the
- 6:04Speaker 2: Federal Election Commission. Some little old lady that supposedly gave
- 6:08Speaker 2: $ 60, 000 to Democrats, and investigative journalists go to her house
- 6:13Speaker 2: and say– ma'am, did you give $ 60, 000 to Democrat candidates
- 6:18Speaker 2: over the last year? She's like, good heavens, no, I
- 6:20Speaker 2: don't have $ 60, 000. Yeah, she's living off her Social Security check.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's okay because it's their fraud. That's what's crazy,
- 6:29Speaker 1: that people aren't aware enough that this is going on
- 6:31Speaker 1: to go after the ones that are perpetrating this. Is
- 6:34Speaker 1: Doge still alive and well behind the scenes? We just
- 6:36Speaker 1: don't hear anything reporting about it, Congressman Davidson.
- 6:40Speaker 2: It's still alive. It doesn't have the kind of momentum
- 6:42Speaker 2: that I wish it did, and And frankly, we ran
- 6:44Speaker 2: into a little bit of challenge with the rescissions package.
- 6:47Speaker 2: I mean, again, you go turn any spending off, no
- 6:50Speaker 2: matter how crazy the spending is, Democrats lose their minds.
- 6:54Speaker 2: So they're completely uncooperative. And frankly, we had some Republicans
- 6:59Speaker 2: in maybe more moderate districts, maybe considered tougher races. They
- 7:03Speaker 2: know Democrats and lots of others love the spending. So
- 7:06Speaker 2: we had a hard time Scaling back, we did scale
- 7:09Speaker 2: back about $ 9 billion with the Doge rescissions package. I
- 7:15Speaker 2: had hoped that we would be into the hundreds and
- 7:18Speaker 2: hundreds of billions of dollars just with Doge, but we
- 7:20Speaker 2: are finding it and turning it off through a lot
- 7:23Speaker 2: of the programs. You're not going to eliminate the program
- 7:26Speaker 2: on Medicaid just because there was some Medicaid fraud, for example,
- 7:31Speaker 2: but you're going to change the program. And so this
- 7:35Speaker 2: makes it a little harder to do with the mechanisms
- 7:37Speaker 2: than just say, hey, let's have a one line item
- 7:40Speaker 2: vote on defunding certain things. It really does come to
- 7:45Speaker 2: getting the Department of Justice to bring justice.
- 7:48Speaker 1: All right, spinning over to your, you're joining with David
- 7:51Speaker 1: Taylor as well as other members of the Ohio delegation,
- 7:54Speaker 1: sending a letter to Governor Gavin Newsom about California giving
- 7:57Speaker 1: CDLs to illegal immigrants who don't even have a grasp
- 8:00Speaker 1: of the English language and therefore can't read road signs,
- 8:02Speaker 1: among other things. I know you did that in response
- 8:06Speaker 1: to a crash in Brown County that killed an Ohioan,
- 8:08Speaker 1: obviously hitting here close to home, but it's happening all
- 8:10Speaker 1: over the country. Did you get any response from that?
- 8:13Speaker 1: Any traction?
- 8:15Speaker 2: No, we haven't heard anything back yet. But look, Sean Duffy,
- 8:19Speaker 2: Secretary of Transportation, he's been very aggressive on this. And
- 8:23Speaker 2: why is the attention focused on California when we're in Ohio? Well,
- 8:27Speaker 2: they were uniquely bad in issuing commercial driver's licenses. They
- 8:31Speaker 2: even gave driver's license to people, and it says on
- 8:35Speaker 2: the license, no name given. And they're catching these guys, oh, no,
- 8:40Speaker 2: I have a license. Because they don't say that in
- 8:43Speaker 2: English because they don't speak English. And, you know, it's
- 8:47Speaker 2: not because we have borders in our states, right? The
- 8:49Speaker 2: borders are supposed to be at the national borders. So
- 8:52Speaker 2: once you get a commercial driver's license issued in California,
- 8:55Speaker 2: you can haul loads into Ohio. You can move to
- 8:58Speaker 2: Ohio and be in Ohio, and you have a commercial
- 9:01Speaker 2: driver's license. So these are the challenges with the, quote,
- 9:05Speaker 2: you know, open border sanctuary states like California, right? do
- 9:10Speaker 2: have real consequences for states like Ohio, and it'd be
- 9:14Speaker 2: great if we had no sanctuary jurisdictions within our own state,
- 9:17Speaker 2: but we do. And I think that's why it's so important,
- 9:20Speaker 2: you know, is when Warren County, with Secretary Mullen's Homeland Security,
- 9:25Speaker 2: did this 287G program. Butler County, Warren County, they do it,
- 9:29Speaker 2: but Hamilton County doesn't. And all this says is, hey,
- 9:32Speaker 2: when you find people who aren't here lawfully present— We're
- 9:35Speaker 2: going to help ICE come bring them in. And you
- 9:39Speaker 2: already have them in custody, so it's far less dangerous
- 9:42Speaker 2: to the public, less dangerous to the officers and everything else.
- 9:46Speaker 2: You found somebody who's here unlawfully. Help us help them leave.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Help us help you. Help you help us collectively. Don't
- 9:56Speaker 1: go away. More with Congressman Davidson, including the connected deep talks.
- 10:02Speaker 1: it's 720 55 care city talk station brian thomas with
- 10:05Speaker 1: congressman warren davidson going through the topics including the connected
- 10:09Speaker 1: vehicle security act uh congressman davidson uh start talking about
- 10:12Speaker 1: this i I just noted, and I saw a couple
- 10:14Speaker 1: of reports on this, the European market for cars is
- 10:18Speaker 1: just being overwhelmed by Chinese imports. Apparently, already they had 12%
- 10:24Speaker 1: of all of the new car sales in the European
- 10:26Speaker 1: Union last month, and that was up 25%. The numbers
- 10:29Speaker 1: just keep going up and up.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Why?
- 10:31Speaker 1: Well, they're a lot cheaper, apparently, than the more expensive
- 10:33Speaker 1: to make because of a multitude of self-inflicted wounds in
- 10:36Speaker 1: the European Union. So they flood the market with the
- 10:38Speaker 1: Chinese EVs, which may be the only ones that the
- 10:41Speaker 1: European Union market can afford. But Buying those comes with
- 10:44Speaker 1: a security risk, doesn't it, Congressman Davidson?
- 10:48Speaker 2: Well, it comes with a lot of risk and privacy
- 10:51Speaker 2: risks for sure. I mean, unfortunately, nearly every car you
- 10:54Speaker 2: buy spies on you. And I'm working to deal with that.
- 10:58Speaker 2: We've got a bill called the It's Your Data Act
- 11:00Speaker 2: that would turn off all the surveillance that goes on
- 11:02Speaker 2: your car or at least make it so you've got
- 11:04Speaker 2: to opt in. I mean, if you've got a signal
- 11:06Speaker 2: coming into your car or going out of your car,
- 11:09Speaker 2: you've got data being stored, that's your data. But everybody
- 11:13Speaker 2: and the brother wants to harvest it and use it. Now,
- 11:16Speaker 2: I don't think any company, whether they're American, Chinese, or whatever,
- 11:21Speaker 2: any third party, should be able to do that without
- 11:23Speaker 2: your consent. So this doesn't do everything on connected vehicles
- 11:27Speaker 2: that it should. But China poses a particular problem. Not
- 11:30Speaker 2: only should they not have your data, they shouldn't have
- 11:33Speaker 2: your market share. Because how do they do this? They
- 11:36Speaker 2: have their federal government data. subsidize their car companies so
- 11:40Speaker 2: they can dump in below cost. So they're selling cars
- 11:43Speaker 2: sometimes below what it costs the factory to even make
- 11:46Speaker 2: them because they want to try to position their companies
- 11:50Speaker 2: to get market share. They've done that in industry after industry,
- 11:54Speaker 2: and we can't let them wreck our auto industry. I mean,
- 11:57Speaker 2: think of the supply chains. And when I was in manufacturing,
- 12:01Speaker 2: we had a couple hundred employees, a huge chunk of
- 12:04Speaker 2: them We're devoted to making products that go into the
- 12:07Speaker 2: automotive sector. And we need the strength of that sector
- 12:12Speaker 2: in the United States. We don't need it in China.
- 12:14Speaker 2: And we should learn from other sectors where this already happened.
- 12:18Speaker 2: And China has taken massive market share. This is why
- 12:21Speaker 2: we're trying to reauthorize and modernize the Defense Production Act
- 12:24Speaker 2: so that we can reshore certain very strategic industries. China
- 12:28Speaker 2: was very crafty in how they targeted certain industries. They
- 12:32Speaker 2: certainly dominate critical minerals and rare earths especially. But they
- 12:37Speaker 2: dominate a lot of chemicals that we can't even make
- 12:40Speaker 2: certain goods in the United States without a Chinese supply chain.
- 12:43Speaker 2: And President Trump and team have really tried hard to
- 12:48Speaker 2: remedy this. And that's one of my big priorities along
- 12:51Speaker 2: with this bill is modernizing Defense Production Act so we
- 12:54Speaker 2: can get the focus on our own supply chains.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Well, relatively speaking, why can't we? I mean, I know
- 13:00Speaker 1: rare earth millers aren't really rare. It's just a question
- 13:02Speaker 1: of digging them out of the ground. We've got a
- 13:03Speaker 1: lot of supplies here in the United States. I mean,
- 13:05Speaker 1: it seems to me that maybe, oh, maybe nefarious Chinese
- 13:08Speaker 1: Communist Party has been whipping up and ginning up the
- 13:11Speaker 1: whole climate alarmism groups over and over and over again,
- 13:14Speaker 1: resulting in environmental laws on the books and resulting in
- 13:16Speaker 1: NIMBY lawsuits and every other form of environmental rule waged at, well,
- 13:21Speaker 1: trying to equal the playing field with the Chinese, like
- 13:23Speaker 1: digging out our own rare earth minerals. Am I close
- 13:26Speaker 1: to maybe accurate on that, Congressman?
- 13:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's part of it. Part of it
- 13:30Speaker 2: is we don't have even a processing plant. We buy
- 13:32Speaker 2: up a lot of these things that are found in
- 13:34Speaker 2: other parts of the world. We get access to places
- 13:36Speaker 2: in Africa where you'd find a rare earth mineral. We
- 13:38Speaker 2: have a lot of it in the United States. You
- 13:40Speaker 2: can't even process it. So even if you do mine
- 13:42Speaker 2: it in the United States, you're shipping it. That's the
- 13:45Speaker 2: environmental laws. But certain industries, you can't really do it because...
- 13:49Speaker 2: There is no market price left. China has bought up
- 13:51Speaker 2: the market with the same strategy they're trying to do
- 13:53Speaker 2: with EVs. The government subsidizes them below cost. And that's
- 13:57Speaker 2: why you've got to have some intervention. You need a
- 14:00Speaker 2: high enough tariff at the border on these goods that
- 14:04Speaker 2: you don't completely kill the market and make it impossible
- 14:07Speaker 2: to do certain things in the United States. I mean,
- 14:09Speaker 2: it's like, okay, I get it. It's fine if I
- 14:11Speaker 2: buy T-shirts from other parts of the world or something.
- 14:14Speaker 2: But You look at your whole supply chain, you can't
- 14:19Speaker 2: have a country and stay as strong as the United
- 14:23Speaker 2: States and make nothing. You can't just import it. You've
- 14:26Speaker 2: got to have these kind of high-skilled, high-value-add jobs to
- 14:31Speaker 2: keep our country strong and resilient and, frankly, secure.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Well, I'm just contemplating this. Without a tariff, how can
- 14:39Speaker 1: you ever complete with a country that basically has either
- 14:42Speaker 1: slave labor or slave wage labor, no OSHA requirements, no
- 14:45Speaker 1: environmental rules or regulations. They just do whatever the hell
- 14:48Speaker 1: they want, obviously more efficiently, less money to have to
- 14:51Speaker 1: extract manuals or otherwise process them. I mean, here in
- 14:54Speaker 1: the United States, I mean, there's no way we could
- 14:56Speaker 1: equally compete with them on that kind of field.
- 15:00Speaker 2: No, and I mean, this is the thing. Even if
- 15:02Speaker 2: you could, the government is subsidizing certain sectors where they
- 15:06Speaker 2: do it below even that low cost. And so there
- 15:11Speaker 2: is a, look, you don't have to necessarily do everything
- 15:13Speaker 2: in the United States. We can move it to other places.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Apple did that. They built up other options, but they're
- 15:19Speaker 2: still very dependent upon China. And look, I would rather
- 15:23Speaker 2: do business with China than see them as a pure adversary.
- 15:28Speaker 2: But you don't want to make yourself completely dependent upon
- 15:31Speaker 2: a Chinese supply chain. And I think in the United States,
- 15:33Speaker 2: if you do that, look, Ross Perot said there would
- 15:35Speaker 2: be a giant sucking sound of our jobs leaving the economy.
- 15:39Speaker 2: People said, no, no, it's all going to work out great. Well,
- 15:43Speaker 2: it worked out an awful lot, like Ross Perot said.
- 15:45Speaker 2: And President Trump's the first president to come in and say,
- 15:48Speaker 2: we have to do something about that. I mean, kudos
- 15:50Speaker 2: to Bernie Marino for proposing this first in the Senate.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Mike Kelly and a bunch of us jumped on to
- 15:57Speaker 2: the House version. Mike Kelly from Pennsylvania jumped on and
- 16:01Speaker 2: put this version through the House. But Bernie Marino, I
- 16:04Speaker 2: think today, is going to try to get unanimous consent
- 16:06Speaker 2: from through the Senate to get this to move. I
- 16:10Speaker 2: don't think he'll get unanimous consent, but I hope he succeeds.
- 16:13Speaker 1: But it sounds like it has some measure of bipartisan
- 16:15Speaker 1: support anyway.
- 16:16Speaker 2: It does.
- 16:17Speaker 1: That's a good thing to hear. We don't see too
- 16:19Speaker 1: much of that lately. Congressman Warren Davidson, I appreciate your
- 16:21Speaker 1: willingness to come on the 55 KRC Morning Show and
- 16:23Speaker 1: talk to my listeners and me about these important issues.
- 16:25Speaker 1: And where you are on the issue is also very
- 16:27Speaker 1: important to me and my listening audience. So thank you
- 16:30Speaker 1: for being who you are, and I hope you have
- 16:31Speaker 1: a fantastic week, sir. We'll talk again soon.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Likewise, Brian. God bless you and all your listeners.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And back to you, sir. 726 right now, 55 KRC
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