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The Phillies Pitching And Batting Need Consistency (PST Episode 580) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. It's Jeff here. I wanted to let
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  Speaker 1: you know we've recorded this podcast episode on Wednesday, August
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  Speaker 1: twenty first, twenty twenty four, so by the time you
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  Speaker 1: hear this, some things may have changed here or there,
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  Speaker 1: but we hope you enjoy the show. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly
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  Speaker 1: sports podcast show in the world, eleven years strong. We
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  Speaker 1: got a great discussion coming to you this week. We've
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  Speaker 1: got some guess a vacation stories we're gonna first get into,
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  Speaker 1: and then it was a story that came out this
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  Speaker 1: past week that Jim Harball, the head coach of the
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers, back in January, offered Colin Kaepernick a
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  Speaker 1: coaching position with the team. We're gonna get into our
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on that particular story, and then from there we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into some Eagles talk. Philadelphia seventy six ers.
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  Speaker 1: I be bringing on some new talent. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I've heard his name countless times, even though
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  Speaker 1: I've heard Gershon's name countless times, I'm gonna batch his
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  Speaker 1: last name for sure. And how is this Phillies team doing, Folks?
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  Speaker 1: How they doing still up and down, but we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get into that. We got a great guest this week,
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  Speaker 1: Eric Morritelli from that ballsat here dot Com. He's going
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  Speaker 1: to be joining us toward the end of the show.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, I've got my buddy Eric Leonard here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Warren, Eric Harrett. How do you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 3: Good man? Eric with ka here?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the right way to spell it, right, it's the
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  Speaker 1: correct way to spell it.
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  Speaker 3: No offense to our guests, but you know that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of the data way to spell it, you know, not
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  Speaker 3: like me. I just learned that one recently.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I spent a week with the kids, so I have
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  Speaker 3: all this slang down now. Oh yeah, I'm good. I
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  Speaker 3: actually went on a vacation. You're up in Buffalo, yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: which we can go into it later. But like I
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  Speaker 3: not a city I've ever thought about ever until like
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  Speaker 3: last year, and now I love it. I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great city and I, I don't know, just
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  Speaker 3: super impressed by the people, the food, the whole vibe
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  Speaker 3: of the town. It is really cool. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: they just happen to have now your falls there, which
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  Speaker 3: is just like, I don't care how many times you
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  Speaker 3: see it. Every time you do for the next time,
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  Speaker 3: You're just like, my life is meaningless. I'm gonna speck
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  Speaker 3: like on the on the globe, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's just one of those things like, holy hell,
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  Speaker 3: there's things bigger than me, and this is one of
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  Speaker 3: them right in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what you just said, you got, you got. My
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  Speaker 1: life is meaningless. I love the text message that you
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  Speaker 1: sent our bodies where you're like, it's the falls and
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  Speaker 1: you should.
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  Speaker 2: I jump.
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  Speaker 4: You.
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  Speaker 1: I need you for the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: You do get that weird feeling and you're like, what
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  Speaker 3: if I jumped, I make it? Could I do it?
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  Speaker 3: There's all those stories that those weirdos who went over
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  Speaker 3: the falls and a barrel and yeah, or had their
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  Speaker 3: cat and a friggin thing, and like they survived. It's
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  Speaker 3: just you did get that weird sense of like it's
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  Speaker 3: like when you see a cop you know, and be gune,
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  Speaker 3: You're like, tis today the day I'm gonna try it.
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  Speaker 3: It was weird feelings, those thoughts you have that you
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  Speaker 3: never follow through with, but yeah, one of them is
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  Speaker 3: like I could do this. I saw the you know,
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  Speaker 3: uh what the Fugitive. I saw the fugitive. He's made it.
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  Speaker 3: You know I can make it.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have any Buffalo wings?
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely did. All right, they are better up there.
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  Speaker 3: They're crispier, that's the key. The sauce is phenomenal. I
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  Speaker 3: had the beef on weck, which is very popular to
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo Basically, you know, a pork beef sandwich, uh with
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  Speaker 3: with horse radish, not unlike a lot of Phillies sandwiches
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  Speaker 3: in Philly, right, I gotta say it compares. It's it
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  Speaker 3: is so freaking good. It's it's the bun. It's the
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  Speaker 3: bun there.
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  Speaker 1: You go every city, just about every city, they have
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  Speaker 1: their own specific foods that are fantastic. And you know what,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay. It's okay that it's just as good or
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  Speaker 1: maybe even better than Philadelphia based food. So seriously, it's
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  Speaker 1: okay to go to a place like if you go
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  Speaker 1: out to Chicago and you have deep dish pizza, it's
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  Speaker 1: okay that it's fantastic pizza. It's deep dish pizza. You're
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  Speaker 1: getting it in a place where it's it's known for that.
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  Speaker 1: They're just different cities around the United States where certain
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  Speaker 1: foods are no or you know, that food because of
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  Speaker 1: that city, and it's the best.
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  Speaker 3: If you swap the roast pork thing with the long
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  Speaker 3: hots in Philly, with the beef on weck, you swapped
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  Speaker 3: them out Buffalo to Philly, they'll be just as big.
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  Speaker 3: In Buffalo. The beef on we would be huge in Philly.
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  Speaker 3: There'd be beef on weck shops everywhere, and there'd be
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  Speaker 3: John you know John's ros pork shops all over Buffalo.
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  Speaker 3: That's how good the sandwich is. It absolutely compares. And
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  Speaker 3: I it's it does remind me of Philadelphia, but on
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  Speaker 3: a smaller scale. It almost it almost takes like South
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  Speaker 3: Philly and just blows it up into an entire like
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  Speaker 3: city with surrounding suburbs. Yeah, it's kind of the feel
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  Speaker 3: of that city.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to going there. I told you before
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  Speaker 1: we hit the record button, I wanted to go up
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  Speaker 1: there with my family this summer. We just didn't have
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  Speaker 1: the chance to have so much stuff going on constantly.
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  Speaker 1: We all do you know folks that do have families
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  Speaker 1: out there, And even if you don't, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: all got a lot of stuff going on. Hopefully we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get up there next summer. But I guess it's
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  Speaker 1: a This is all a great segue into our first
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  Speaker 1: story this week, and first segment that we wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get into, and it really dealt with your trip Eric
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  Speaker 1: up to Buffalo and just the feels and the vibes
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  Speaker 1: with regard to professional sports up there, and really how
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  Speaker 1: it's different than Philadelphia. Two sports teams, two professional sports
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  Speaker 1: teams up in Buffalo, with the Buffalo Bills, the Buffalo Sabers.
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  Speaker 1: We've got five down here in Philadelphia, I mean four
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  Speaker 1: major ones. You know, you've got the Philadelphia Union of
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  Speaker 1: completely crapped a bed this season, but still there's five
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  Speaker 1: here in Philly. But you were really talking about with
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  Speaker 1: me like that it's a different vibe up there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you want to get into it.
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  Speaker 3: And I only brought it up for the show because
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  Speaker 3: I called you for the show, and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: got an idea for a topic, because I thought about
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  Speaker 3: this a lot, because I we took our dog with us,
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  Speaker 3: so I and we stayed in Airbnb, like in one
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  Speaker 3: of the neighborhoods of Buffalo. We stayed in like we
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  Speaker 3: didn't stay in a nice hotel. We stayed in Buffalo,
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  Speaker 3: and every house is kind of the same. They're all
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  Speaker 3: upstate New York with the weird front deck thing. They're
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  Speaker 3: all built.
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  Speaker 2: They all built.
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  Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy five, and walking around nice neighborhoods with like
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  Speaker 3: like great yards, nice car like a BMW and every
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  Speaker 3: house has two bills flags and like cardboard cutouts of
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen in the front yard. And I'm just like,
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  Speaker 3: man that we all know about the Bill's mafia, right,
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  Speaker 3: Eagles fans are wild, their fans are wild. But I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, this just feels different up here, and
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  Speaker 3: not in like Philadelphia fans huge, right, Like there's tons
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  Speaker 3: of Eagles fans even out here in Central PA. It's everywhere, right,
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  Speaker 3: passionate fans, but there's just a smaller because there's only
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  Speaker 3: two major teams up there. I'm walking on these neighborhoods
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  Speaker 3: and like I would walk for hours and every neighborhood
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  Speaker 3: like this, and I'm just like this almost feels like
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  Speaker 3: a small Texas town high school football thing.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: But in a city, like in a major city with
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  Speaker 3: a major NFL team, that is a lot of success.
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  Speaker 3: I know they lost the four Super Bowl whatever, they're
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  Speaker 3: a great team, they've had a lot of like they've
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  Speaker 3: won a lot recently, and I just I was walking
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  Speaker 3: around thinking is this better? Would this be better fandom?
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  Speaker 3: Even without the losses in the Super Bowl in the nineties.
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  Speaker 3: Is it better fandom to have two major league teams
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  Speaker 3: in a city like this where that's all you're focused on?
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  Speaker 3: These two teams? Yeah, And it's almost, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: like a high school almost college vibe as opposed to
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  Speaker 3: the metropolitan area Philip with four major teams. Sports talk
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  Speaker 3: is constant about all four major teams, And it would
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  Speaker 3: it be better? As a fan? It'd be like, I like,
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  Speaker 3: these two teams, this is all I'm going to focus on.
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  Speaker 3: There's too much going on in the sports world. And
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  Speaker 3: I I I thought about it a lot walking around
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  Speaker 3: because I you know, I do the show and I'm
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  Speaker 3: a huge Philly fan, and I was just like, this
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  Speaker 3: almost feels like it'd be a lot easier. Like they're like,
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  Speaker 3: we listen to Philly sports talk back in the day
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  Speaker 3: and it's just constant yelling and screaming. Yes, Like like
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  Speaker 3: it's like if I just have two teams and one's
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  Speaker 3: not very good, but the Bills are good, I can
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  Speaker 3: just focus on that right, and or does it make
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  Speaker 3: it worse because like if they lose, holy shit, I
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  Speaker 3: gotta wait till next year because they're both fault fall
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  Speaker 3: and like winter teams, yeah, you got nothing in the summertime,
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  Speaker 3: nobody baseball teams. I was just thinking, like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what fandom would be better, because I do respect
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  Speaker 3: both fan bases so much. I happen to be in one.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm a huge fan of the Bills Mafia and
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  Speaker 3: just that whole scene, the Sabers scene up there is gigantic.
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  Speaker 3: I saw a lot of Sabers jerseys, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I just had a thought like which one would be worse,
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  Speaker 3: which one would be best, which the better aspects of
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  Speaker 3: the either one. That's what I think about when I
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  Speaker 3: walked the dog, because I have I'm much Yahn's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it sounds like to me, you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about different degrees of passion, different degrees of how close
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  Speaker 1: to your heart. Not to be too coranty, but that
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  Speaker 1: you keep these teams in a way. And also, I
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  Speaker 1: mean when you have four or five sports teams in
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  Speaker 1: one city, like you said, there is so much going on.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much going on with what you're able to
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  Speaker 1: take in the intake of everything going on with those teams.
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  Speaker 1: We try to do it here on this podcast, and
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  Speaker 1: it's impossible every week. We can't cover every freaking story
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  Speaker 1: all the time time, you know. And that's why there
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: are other podcasts out there that are niche, but even
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  Speaker 1: more niche podcasts than us just focusing on the Flyers,
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  Speaker 1: just focusing on the Sixers, Phillies, Eagles, and Union as well.
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  Speaker 1: So it's the different degrees of passion I think that
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about. It's not that we can compare them
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  Speaker 1: and say they're the same, or that this one's necessarily
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  Speaker 1: quote better than the other. It's just a different degree
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  Speaker 1: of passion. And I think from what you're saying, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: it would probably be it might be an easier life
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  Speaker 1: to have only two sports teams, you know, when you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at sports in terms of entertaining yourself and being
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  Speaker 1: passionate about sports, having two instead of five, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I might take the two.
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  Speaker 3: And that was my thought, like, Okay, this is man
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  Speaker 3: so much easier. Imagine this is a Buffalo sports table. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we would have our topics. It's easy. It would be
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  Speaker 3: much talk about in the summertime.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was gonna say, during training camp,
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  Speaker 1: for a Bill's training camp, we would be talking about
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  Speaker 1: a third string left tackle, like you wouldn't believe the
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  Speaker 1: analysis of that, gentleman. We would be in the weeds.
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  Speaker 3: Beyond in the weeds. We'd be making stories we do
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  Speaker 3: hear sometimes, but like we would do a lot of movies,
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  Speaker 3: movies and music podcast right. Absolutely, man to just focus
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  Speaker 3: on that, I think it almost creates a level of
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  Speaker 3: fandom that goes beyond like psychosis, yea entity, because like
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  Speaker 3: I saw guys wearing the Bill Zumba pants, Oh my god, yes,
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  Speaker 3: like that in August correct, and it's like that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I love the passion. But holy shit, there's nothing else
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  Speaker 3: going on, you know, I don't know, I don't None
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  Speaker 3: of them are better. I'm never gonna switch. If the
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  Speaker 3: Bills all Needles weren't in it, awesome, I'm sharing my
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  Speaker 3: ass off for them like that. That city, absolutely, there's
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  Speaker 3: a few cities on the list that absolutely deserve championships. Baltimore,
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  Speaker 3: I'm probably we're probably buy us East Coast kind of teams,
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  Speaker 3: right yeah, like like post industrial kind of kind of
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  Speaker 3: teams like Cleveland, Buffalo, Baltimore, but that city in particular,
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  Speaker 3: if the Bills won, Oh my god, I would I
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  Speaker 3: would love to go up there for that weekend because
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  Speaker 3: that would just be when the Eagles one and we
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  Speaker 3: were in state college. Yes, nuts up there would would
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  Speaker 3: there would be dudes being put through flaming tables off
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  Speaker 3: rooftops all over the city.
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  Speaker 1: That's everywhere that somebody. People would be like, yes, put
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  Speaker 1: me to death right now. I saw the Bills win
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I'm good to die. I'm good to
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  Speaker 1: die right now.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it like my parents live through the nineties,
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  Speaker 3: so that that ship show. Yeah, like, yeah, we can
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  Speaker 3: die now. Because I saw a championship and it's I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, I I thought about it a lot just
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  Speaker 3: because it was so it was so overwhelming. It just
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  Speaker 3: seemed like nice houses with Josh Allen, cardboork.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I love that story. It's a great story. One we
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  Speaker 1: haven't done here on the show. What are your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: out there, Philadelphia Sports Table at gmail dot com, specifically
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  Speaker 1: about you know, you know, do you think it's easier
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  Speaker 1: being in a Philadelphia sports fan or perhaps a fan
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  Speaker 1: like a Buffalo fan, a Buffalo sports fan, We'd love
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  Speaker 1: to hear from you, but moving along here with our agenda, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: I was really really kind of intrigued by this story
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  Speaker 1: from this past week. So I'm real, I'm reading I'm
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  Speaker 1: reading one of the sports sites that I go to,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't stand Jim Harbaugh. Can't stand
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  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. Folks know that. But amazingly enough, story comes
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  Speaker 1: out of report that he extended an offer to Colin
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  Speaker 1: Kaepernick to join the Los Angeles Chargers coaching staff back
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  Speaker 1: in January of this year. Colin Kaepernick declined he still
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  Speaker 1: apparently wants to play in the NFL, per the reports,
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  Speaker 1: that's his desire, that's what he wants to do, and
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  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh said that the offer is still on the
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  Speaker 1: table if Colin Kaepernick wants to come back to you
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  Speaker 1: know that that quote that Jim Harbaugh type of bubble
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  Speaker 1: is so to say he really wants him, And I
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  Speaker 1: guess that really does speak And look, I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh fan, as I said, but I guess it
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  Speaker 1: really does speak to the type of person Colin Kaepernick is.
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  Speaker 1: If Jim Harbaugh said, you know what I had, I
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  Speaker 1: had the opportunity to coach this kid for all those
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  Speaker 1: years that he was in San Francisco, and I want
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  Speaker 1: him because he has knowledge, he has value to bring
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  Speaker 1: to an NFL team. But what I thought was interesting
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  Speaker 1: about this story, Eric, was that Kaepernick said no, he
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  Speaker 1: because he still wants to play in the NFL. Totally
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  Speaker 1: get it. You know, maybe he just doesn't have any
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  Speaker 1: interest in coaching. But my thoughts with this are, he
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  Speaker 1: last played in twenty sixteen. He played twelve games that year,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the greatest. He'sn't necessarily had sixteen touchdowns four interceptions
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  Speaker 1: again in those twelve games. But I'm thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 1: you have done so much work within the realm of
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  Speaker 1: racial justice, the issue that he has been at the
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  Speaker 1: forefront of for all these years. It doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be playing football anytime soon. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to, you know, I'm not trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: throw any sort of shade or anything like that with
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  Speaker 1: regard to his his endeavors in what he wants to do.
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  Speaker 1: But I just don't think it's gonna happen. It's been
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  Speaker 1: two since twenty sixteen, since he's been on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Playing football. But if you have an NFL coach and
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  Speaker 1: a guy like Jim Harbaugh is going to offer you
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  Speaker 1: a coaching position, I kind of don't understand. And again,
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  Speaker 1: he may just not want to coach, But why not
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  Speaker 1: leave your mark in the NFL after doing what you
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  Speaker 1: have done in such a proactive fashion highlighting an issue
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  Speaker 1: that's important to you, And you could still do that
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  Speaker 1: while making your mark in the NFL on a coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff and continuing to bring your knowledge of football, your
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  Speaker 1: knowledge of the world of racial justice that you've been
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  Speaker 1: fighting for to continue to bring it to the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, I'm like, huh, it's interesting that
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  Speaker 1: he didn't take the position. I'm not going to criticize
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  Speaker 1: him for it. I just thought it was interesting. How
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  Speaker 1: if you want to leave your mark that much more,
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  Speaker 1: this could have been the perfect opportunity to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got an owner. I don't know who the
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  Speaker 1: owner of the Los Angeles Chargers are, but they were
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  Speaker 1: okay with him coming to the team in this capacity obviously,
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  Speaker 1: so thought it was an interesting story. That's where I'm
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  Speaker 1: coming from with this. It's like, man, if I were him,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like all over this, let's get back in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. May not be on the field playing football,
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  Speaker 1: but if I can continue to leave my mark with
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  Speaker 1: regard to the game of football and with regard to
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: racial justice, why not do it. So that's where I'm
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: coming from.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be thirty seven in November. I mean
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: he's playing days of probably over. And I but a
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: couple thoughts right away. Number One, when you played at
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: that high of a level of being a starting quarterback
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: and going to the Super Bowl, I don't care what
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: year was, right, you still have that dog in you.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you're fifty years old.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I'm sure in his mind he can still throw thirty
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: eight touchdowns, eight interceptions for five thousand yards. Right, But
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: it's hard to get that out of your mind. Yeah,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: And so I can understand why he's like, I don't
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: want to coach. I still want to play, right. But
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: now here's where I get a little little negative. Now,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: if this was John Harbaugh with Baltimore, I would feel
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: a little better about this story overall. See, it almost
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: came off to me like Jim Harbaugh kind of self serving,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: just a bit kind of an asshole, a little bit
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: a little bit in his khakis, his asshole khakis. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: think it came off as like kind of a pr ploy. Initially,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: when I saw the story in the agenda, I was like, Oh,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh wants to do this. His teams kind of suck,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: probably right, yeah, gonna be pretty bad. And it's like, well,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: let me keep let me keep this, Like, sure it
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: might've come from the heart, it might have been from
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: a good place, but because of his reputation, it's like,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know about this. So that's why I didn't
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: want to ask you, like, what was the position offered?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I did not see what that was.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I was actually trying to look at that. I'm assuming
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: it would probably be some sort of offensive quality control
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: or even I don't even know if it would be
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, but probably offensive quality control something like that.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sure to be something far down the totem pole
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: on the list. But regardless, I agree with you in
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: the it would help him, you know, continue on his
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: fight with racial injustice. But how much has he been
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: out there the past two or three years with that?
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: You know, I haven't really quite seen him, and I'm
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's not still for obviously, he gave
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: up his career for it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think he does have a foundation
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: that he does a lot of work with. I just
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: don't think he's getting much felicity, you know.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: True, And this might be a good pr move for
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: him to like to bring in more attention to that
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: thing he's working for. But like I said, he might
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: be like, you know, if I could make a damn
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: roster spot, that's even better exposure. Like I'm still for
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: the racial injustice stuff obviously, but if I can maybe
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: make a third string I'm in the preseason here, maybe
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: that would be more of a spotlight on it. I
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: might get on ESPN as opposed to him on I'm
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: not on hard knocks. I'm kind of a third string coach,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: which you no one cares about, right, But I think
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: it's interesting that the thorn in the story for me
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: always with Jim Harbaugh. And I don't know if any
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: of the coach had done it, like if like the
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Texans coach had done it, just yeah, sure, like oh cool,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: that kind of makes sense. But like for him to
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: do it, the team might suck. It's like we're this
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: where the fourth favorite team in la as it is, yeah,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: out of all the sports teams there. And it's like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I kind of appreciate the gesture
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: if it comes from a good place.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree, totally agree. It's a really interesting story.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And I do wonder if at some point he does
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: get to the point where he says, Okay, I know
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: football is not gonna happen for me. You know, maybe
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: let's continue to leave my mark on the game, leave
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: my mark with regard to racial justice advocacy. It'll be
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: interesting to follow for sure in the future. But before
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: we go to break here, Eric wanted to get into
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: some quick thoughts about the Philadelphia Eagles, as today was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the last day of training camp. Their final preseason game
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: is going to be here before we know it, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Magad the season is going to start that first week
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: of September down in Brazil against the Green Bay Packers.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Here in terms of where this team is that there's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: so many good vibes and good fields coming from a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: team that looks on paper like they should be going
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: well into the playoffs this year. But I know a
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: lot of us in the podcast world specifically that talk
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: about this team. Sometimes I feel like we're trying to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: really come up with concerns in a way, and there
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: are legitimate concerns with regard to this team offensively and defensively,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: specifically from a defensive standpoint, how Vic Fangio's defense is
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: gonna perform right out of the gate and just consistently
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: throughout the year. And for me, I'm not just trying
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to come up with certain stories to be concerned about.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But something that's really been on my mind is one
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: particular player on the defensive line and with regard to
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the pass rush that we're gonna be seeing a lot
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: more of, but we haven't seen too much of him
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: in the preseason, and that's Bryce Huff. I mean it
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: is he ready for an every down type of role,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: because we did see him in the Patriots game where
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: things look pretty promising. He logged three tackles and twelve plays.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I know that's not a ton, but he played against
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the run, rushed against the pass, and he remained in
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the game in third down base scenarios. But at the
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: end of the day, twenty six years old, this first
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: season with the team on a three year, fifty one
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: point one million dollar contract, and he's essentially replacing Hassan Reddick.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick, who had eleven sacks last year, he was
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the defense's most productive player in twenty twenty three. He
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: is going to have to really step up Bryce Huff is,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and we just don't know what to expect. We have
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: no idea what to expect because when he was with
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the New York Jets, it was basically a platoon player
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: on third down and within like two minute base situations.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: So can he have that every down roll on this team.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: He's a guy that I'm really gonna be looking at
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: during the first few games of this season to see
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what type of impact he's having. And look, I don't
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: think he's necessarily gonna be able to replicate what Hassan
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Reddick did with eleven sacks, you know, you know, his
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: first year with this team. Maybe he does, maybe he
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: surprises us, but it's a lot of productivity and a
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: lot to put on his show. I don't know. It's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: just this defensive line and specifically Bryce huff that that's
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: what I'm really going to be looking at. Earlier this season.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Before I talked about Bryce huff Just kudos to Howie
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: for making the Bryce Huff for Hassan Redick basically yes,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: And because the Hassan Reddick Jets experience has been a
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: complete shit show, he hasn't reported. I think his finds
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: are up to three million. Do it'll be a three
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: million after this weekend if he doesn't report, because the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: third preseason game, how the hell do you not have
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: a deal in place before the trade? How he probably
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: did with Huff, Like it's unbelievable, Like the Jets have
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: made some good moves, but they're also still the Jets
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: and he still has not reported or signed a deal
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: or it's a shit show. But Bryce Huff is a
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: smaller player, platoon player. The Jets defensive line was really good,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: especially especially the interior, so that helped. So I like
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Bryce Huff as long as I'm going to go back
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to one of my big concerns. Honestly, I'll just say now,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the defensive tackle position is a massive question mark in
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: my in my opinion, is Jalen Carter is the big
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: guy Jordan Davis Burton Davis. Are those two three down
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: players right? Or does Davis had to come out and
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: rotate that? That's fine, But like if those guys don't.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Like Fletcher Cox was there last year, right, and they
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: had great tackle play, and that was the reason Hassan
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Reddick for the past season or two was able to
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: really explode without that presence. I don't know. Bryce up
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: is awesome, but what's he going to look like without
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: that presence in the middle. I think that's a huge,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: huge topic for the defense. Besides the backers, the secondary
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: is a concern. I have a whole list of things here,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: but like I think that Bryce Hugh thing without the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: tackles is as little as a big concern because I
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: don't know how they're going to perform the tackles.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Seriously, there's got there. They're a question all
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: over the place when it comes to this defense. You said, yes,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, of course, linebackers. We have been seeing some
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: good stuff from the linebackers, but it's still it's preseason,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it's training camp. You know, I'm not gonna trust anything yet.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I love the promise of Jeremiah Trotter Junior, but he's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a rookie. He's gonna be facing some really really intense
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: competition over the course of eighteen weeks. It's gonna happen,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and I to Kobe Dean. Yeah, he's been on fire
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: recently at a great game in that Patriots game. I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier with with regard to Bryce Huff But like
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Kobe Dean, is he gonna be able to stay healthy?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Of course that's the big question mark. But what type
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of impact is he going to have? Is he gonna
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: be able to cover in space? So where do you
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: want to go with regard to your Eagles talk here.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Well, let's just finish up the defense. I'll start with this.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: We played the Patriots. They're probably gonna get the first
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: pick of the draft this year, right, A horrible team.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: You played against their starters and kind of second stringers.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a disaster there. So I kind of
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: get granted salt. You have to like look positioned by position.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: The linebackers are going to be what they are. We
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: haven't had good linebacker coreps in a long time. I'm
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: more concerned about the secondary. I like the pieces. I
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: like what Fangio is saying. But if you read between
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the lines, Fangio is kind of saying, like, I like
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: what we have. We'll figure it out.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. Yeah, And I read.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: The athletic piece recently, the five questions going into the
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: last preseason game, it's a lot of Fangio going, we'll
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: get there. Yeah, we're going to do this. We've got
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: to see what we have there. It's like, dude, we
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: got one game left right now.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: The good thing is we you know.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: They actually have a defensive coordinator this year. That's nice
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: to have as opposed to last year with Matt Patricia.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: So it's good that he likes what he's seeing, Like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I hope the quinon Mitchell. Yes, Cooper de john should
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: be back this weekend. I'm hoping we get to see
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: him play against the Vikings.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I like.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I like the pieces back there because they're going to
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: have to be really freaking good at the defensive line
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: does and perform, and the linebackers are mediocre like they
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: always are with this team. That's one of my biggest
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: My biggest concern is the defensive line and how it
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: affects the secondary defensively. Like the pieces, but he's still like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: like Fangio is full on saying, I'm still moving guys around.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell to do right now,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: right and Mitchell's basically I don't know a couple of quotes,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Mitchell has been saying, like, put me anywhere, I can
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: do whatever. I can do whatever. It's like, you're rookie.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I don't like the fact that you don't have a
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: set spot right that that concerns me. And can we
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: just jump the other side of the ball because I
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: have that's my biggest concern on the team.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: We're likely the offensive line.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Offensive line, Yeah, correct, that's my I'm not I'm not
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: sure you're gonna believe this, Jeff, But the guard is hurt.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I'm shocked. I think I've said it ten times. Like
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: when I saw that he limped off the field, I'm like, oh,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I mean the first round bust. Yeah, puked the first days,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: three to seventy five pounds. He's hurt. Oh, I can't
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: believe it. We have to find another guard that's great
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: like that. I haven't seen any of the starters yet.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I hate the fact that Nick Sirianni doesn't play any
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: of the starters. On offense, Pat Mahomes is playing like
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: he just won a Super Bowl, but he's playing in
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: the first quarter. Yeah, what are you playing?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Nick?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: That's for a whole another show. But it does it
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: does play into like, can we see the starters for
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: one series, this, this next, It would be nice. The
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: offensive line looks like Swiss cheese, and I haven't seen
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: the quarterback or they running back play together yet.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very very good points, very good points. I I
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the left side of the line I am totally fine
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: with at this point. I'm getting to the point too
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: where just based on what you're hearing. With regard to
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Cam Jurgens, He's no Jason Kelcey, of course, but I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be able to. I think he's gonna
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: hold up. But man, Lane's got to stay healthy and
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: we know he's had health problems over the years. And
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that right guard position, Man, geez, you're absolutely great. I'm worried, Yes,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I'm worried and concerned about it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: So my take is like, Okay, I listen. Know a
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: lot of podcasts about the preseason. Every team is kind
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: of razor not every team, but most Almost every team
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: is like razor thin in terms of depth.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, if we lose this guy and this guy,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: we're in trouble.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Eagles are right there too, right, they have they have
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: a high high ceiling. They really do. They could win
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: fourteen games. I wouldn't be shocked. Yeah, they also have
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: a high floor, but that floor is like nine and eight, yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: my opinion. And if they have one or two or
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: three injuries where they really can't take them, like Jalen
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Carter's hurt and Lane Johnson's hurt, Holy hell, nine and
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: eight and we're barely in the playoffs and we're playing
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: San Fran in the first round, like yeah, oh no,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: like like we don't have a third receiver. It's that
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: kind of that kind of stuff going on right now.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: It might all come together by week three and we're like,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: oh three and oh screw this. But just kind of
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: this stuff I'm seeing in preseason, like relying on guys
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: that we should not be relying on, including the guy
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, mccaffected. So that's my biggest concern is
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: like razor thin air, like right, yeah, So I.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Do well regard to the wide receiver position again recording
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: this Wednesday night, I do think the Eagles are gonna
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: end up trading for a wide receiver. I do think
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: they're gonna trade for a wide receiver. Three, A veteran,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: some guy who's been in the league for quite some time.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: More of a possession player, a guy like Robert Woods
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: or something perhaps from the from the Texans, because Texans
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: are very rich at wide receiver. As we know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I'm here, I'm hearing Dotson from the commandit that comes
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Yes Central there.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind, not at all, Yes, not bad at all.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I want a possession guy too, good good guy on
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: third down, so.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Which we don't have on the roster right now in
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: my opinion.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. All right, Well, we are gonna get
• 30:58
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• 31:01
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• 31:03
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• 31:18
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• 31:21
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• 31:28
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• 31:32
  Speaker 1: now it's time to get into some Philadelphia seventy six
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Ers talk. Yeah, it's been quiet on the Sixers front
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: now for a few weeks here, but they've added a
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: depth piece because they have had a serious depth problem
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: at the Ford position.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah do it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: What's his name?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: It's Gershan yup yuboseel yub A Selly youb a selly
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: damn it. I almost got there almost.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: When I saw the topic, I was sitting on the
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: couch with my daughter and I'm like, this is give
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: me my favorite part of the show.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I can't talk. I've got I can't seriously Russian names,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: French names here.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: She she just had French in high school, and she's like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: she said it, and I was like, just not gonna
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: say it right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Yabu selli yaba sally yaba sellly I gotta I'm like
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: one of those idiots. I gotta say it over and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: over like two dozen times before I can do. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I still mess it up, of course. But anyway, Daryl
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Morey here has potentially put an end to this forward
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: position depth that was a little concerning as we're getting
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: ready to head into this Philadelphia seventy six er season.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: They sat back watched the summer Olympics and French pro
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Gershan Yabuselli. He's now gonna there we go. Yeah, it's
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: now gonna be joining this Sixers team. And I didn't
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: know who he was aside from watching the Olympics Eric, Like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I really didn't know who he was. But he's gonna
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: add some physicality to this seventy six ers bench unit
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: for sure. The one thing I don't like from my
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: understanding is what I've read and seen thus far, he's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: not a top tier rebounder, so that's kind of an
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: issue here. I don't know what are your overall thoughts
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: on this signing, the depth that it's going to give
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: this team, specifically on the bench.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Well, he can't rebound or shoot, so he's an undersized
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: power forward. It's why he didn't make it in the league.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: He played for Boston for two seasons and went back
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: to France this past year. But from from things I'm
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: reading and hearing, like he's he really worked on his
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: game and he really worked on his body. You saw
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: him in the Olympics, the Guy's house, the famous plays
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: he dunked on Lebron and just destroyed him, and it
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: probably got into contract probably you know, Yes, honestly, But
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: France played really well. He looked really good, and it's
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: a good signing for depth. It's two million. It's a
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: dropping the bucket for the sixers. But when that happened,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I think all thirty teams were like, oh, this guy's interesting, right,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: and Darryl Morey swooped in and got him, and I
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I like that move because when I
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: cut off, all the other teams beat him to the punch.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: You paid nothing. If he works out, he works out right.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And again he's much bigger than he was I think
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: when he was in the league. His rebounding better. Offensively,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: who cares, right, he's going to play twelve to fifteen
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: minutes and he's a big body off the bench. What
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: they need? My brother and I were texting me about it,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: like we're looking at the roster. We're texting back and
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: forth and we're like, what they're missing probably a shooter.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Right after they get you have a selly. It's like, Okay,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: they got the rebounding. Hopefully now they needed a shooter.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: But the fact we're talking about like twelve to fifteen
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: minute players means the roster prutty set. This is probably
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: the best roster, most professional roster they've had in a
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: long time. We've talked, we've talked about the one hundred times,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: the window within beads like this year, maybe next. Yeah,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: even though they signed Paul George for like what eight
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: years or.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Some shit, you know, twelve years.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like it, this is a good signing for
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: a veteran team. We can ease the kid in. He
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: doesn't have to play much like they're gonna give him
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: a ton of reps early in the season. Again, a
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: lot of the signings he made, that more he made
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: were no lose, Like you can't really lose signing Kyle
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Lowry to a small deal. You can't lose. Getting Caleb Martin,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: you can't lose. I don't think it's a you can't
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: lose signing his kid. That's my take on the on
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: the signing.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: What do you think about the fact that he shot
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: over forty percent from deep during the last three EuroLeague seasons?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: That sounds pretty good to me, But in terms of
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the euro League, it's much different, of course, than much
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: different than the NBA, of course, But I look at
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that that percentage, that forty percent shooting from deep, and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I like it, you know, like you said, though, he's
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: not the greatest shooter in the world, but I see
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a stat like that and I say, okay, I'll take it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: And the one thing I will say is, like the
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: throughout the past like twenty years, the NBA has kind
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: of taken on a lot of EU League style basketball.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: So if he shot well over there, it's great. I'm
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: just going off his NBA stats because it's a totally
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: different I said, it's kind of a different game, but
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: like a lot of the long form shooting from the
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: from the forwards, and the kind of the rotations and
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: stuff kind of mirror the euro League. But over there
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of wide open three pointers. That's like,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and he might get them because like if he's playing
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: with Maxi and Paul George and Caleb Martin, he's probably
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: gonna have some open three pointers. If you can hit him, awesome,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: if he can give us like eight point six rebounds
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: a game. Perfect signing for two million dollars again, a
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: no lowse signing.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: All right, very good. Well, before we head to what
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: we were thrown down on the table this week, which
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: is gonna be some Phillies talk. We're gonna get into
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: some Phillies talk right here just about how this upcoming
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: stretch is gonna look until the end of the month.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And I just just in terms of the confidence where
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: we are with this team right now winning games that
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: they should be winning, I'm not sure where they're at
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: right now with the Braves. In this game they were
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: they were losing. They are okay because they were losing
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: two zero at one point, I'm like Jesus, like, this
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: is the Braves, who are you know, when healthy, a
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: very good team, but we know that they consistently are
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: losing players. The Braves are, and I mean they have
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: after this Brave series, They've got the Royals, then they've
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: got the Astros and at the end of the month
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that go they go back to the Braves again, and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I think they really need to solidify themselves with regard
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to this Braves team who has lost some players to
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: injury and it's been way too up and down. We're
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: gonna get into it as well with Eric Moore tell
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you in a little bit here, but man, the pitching,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: we're coming up to that line in the sand, Eric,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: where they're gonna have to make some hard decisions in
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: terms of what to do with this pitching, whether six
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: man rotation time, and just how they're utilizing some of
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: these starters. You know, getting Ranger Suarez back is going
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: to be I think huge, and I think there's gonna
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: be a lot put on his shoulders. Again. I know
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to Eric about this as well,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, we're not feeling confident, like one hundred
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: percent confident like we were in May by any stretch.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: But I don't know what are your thoughts right now?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Like maybe I'm just being a downer. I'm not trying
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to be a downer, but I just see guys like
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Bryce and Stott, who is completely crap the bed this season.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't have it. And maybe he comes on
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: in the fall, maybe he comes on when they absolutely
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: need him, you know, Marsha and every now and again
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: is streaky and uh, I don't know even Bryce Harper
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: streaky for being Harper, And yes he is streaky throughout
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: his career every now and again, but man, a lot
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: of players on this team just aren't living up to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: certain potential. And I'm complaining about this and they're freaking
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: they're killing it, you know what. I mean, they're just like,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: this is baseball. I need to like to hold on.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I just slapped myself in the face.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: You should.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, they just want over the braves.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, games done they want Okay, I'm glad they won
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: just one.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: So there leads back up to seven games in the division.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Like all you really worried about now is like, can
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: you get the top seed? Seriously, they're one game under
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers as of right now, and like, hopefully you
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: go out and win tomorrow. Nola pitched pretty well tonight.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Actually I watched most of the game. Gave up one
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: bad home run and that's all. That's all was was
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: two runs. Yeah again, I was I was like, well,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, I was at an eight.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I think, like the spiral is.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Happening, Yes, the Concerno meter.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Well right now they're nine to nine in August,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: which is not bad because you're going into the last
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: month of the season. You're hoping the older guys like
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: like not older, but like heart. Harper's having it just
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: a brutal second half of the year. Yeah, and I'm
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: not surprised by it because I would actually give him
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: some days off here coming up soon against Kansas Sit
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: him against Kansas City and Houston. Absolutely, I would say
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: against Kansas City, send him the whole fucking series because
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: this is his first like full season and how long
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I know he played the he played spring training and
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: the full year. He hasn't done that in ages, especially
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: for the Phillies, and I think he's wearing down. He'll
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: never admit that, but it's very obvious that he hits
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: the All Star break. I was hoping it made the
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: All Star team. Just go rest in wherever the hell
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: he lives now, But I I'm not worried. I think
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the return of Rangers Suarez, some of the moves they
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: made in the bullpen, I like, I think they're ready
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: for a And you talk about Bryson, Scott and Marsh
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: being streaky, Look they've always been. Like I was hoping
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Stott would be a little better this year. Absolutely everyday player.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: But Marsh's Marsh is. We got him from the Angels
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: for nothing. He's he's a throwing you know what I mean.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Like he's got long, wet hair like a wrestler, and
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: he has a school like like he has cool quotes
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: to the media, but he is what he is, like
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: this team, bring back Ranger rest some of your older guys.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Just just start rolling in mid September and just go
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: for it at the end. I'm not completely worried.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I think the cold that we're feeling from the team
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: right now it could be a really good omen to
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: them just getting hot when they need to get hot
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: as they're getting into as they're getting into the postseason.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: So again I'll slap my slap myself in the face,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: and uh.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: You know what they need, and it's coming up. This
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: is what they need. Their road records sucks. So some
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: of the Dodgers road record. Their home records amazing. So
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: so's the Phillies. They need a nice home stand against
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: some good teams, against some hatable teams. Yeah, and it's
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: coming Like this KC series, I hate it because it's like,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: what the hell are we doing?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Are we out there?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Playing this nothing team. At the end of August, we
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: come home though, we're playing the Astros. Everybody hates the Astros. Yes,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: and it's freaking Star Wars Night on Monday's Goya Latino
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Family Celebration on a Tuesday. I'm looking at right now,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: it's perfect for the home stand and then they play
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: the goddamn Braves that weekend. Yep, that is the perfect
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: way to end the month. I hope they go five
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: and one and just kick ass and everyone falls in
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: love again with the team. I really feel like the
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: hiccup with k C is one thing. I'm thinking they
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: come home and just roll against two teams that the
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: city hates.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's that would get everything back in gear.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I'd say, back in gear. They're up seven games. You're
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: The second third best record in baseball. Yes, and we're like.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're nine to nine here, Hong is.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: The last two seasons at this date, We're like, you
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, a bunch of dog. Well, I'm a dope.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I know I'm a dope.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Completely yourself again, please, Oh we're on camera. He's actually
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: smacking himself.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, right, Oh buddy, I'm gonna let you go here.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna we're gonna get to what we're thrown down
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: on table here. He got anything else before we head out?
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: If you want to go on vacation, try Buffalo.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Try Buffalo. You're wearing a hoodie, a Buffalo hoodie. Look
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: at that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: My dog's gonna play there. Oh yeah, it was like
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: a college visit vacation thing.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, awesome, all right, buddy, let you get going.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Folks are gonna take quick break to pay some bills.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be back in just a bit. All right,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: we are back, and now let's get in some more
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Phillies talk. We're gonna dive into this team a little
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: bit more detail. That's what we're throwing down on the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: table and now on the table. It is great to
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• 44:10
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• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and only Eric Morritelli. How you doing, Buddy good. Yeah,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: it's great to have you back on the show. Love
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: having a future or previous conversations with you, and hopefully
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: more future conversations with you as well. But getting into
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: this Philadelphia Phillies team at like, oh my gosh, what
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: we have been seeing from this pitching staff over the
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: course of you know how many weeks since the All
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Star break. We've seen some good, we've certainly seen some
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: not so good looks. As we know, Eric, they haven't
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: been the same pitching staff since coming out of the
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: All Star Break, and even before the All Star Break,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: there were some hiccups that we saw from the starters
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and that we saw from the bullpen as well. The
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: time to focus on the smallest of details in terms
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: of pitching is really coming as September is right around
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the corner. So this is coming really really close for
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Rob Thompson and just for this this managerial and coaching
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: staff to really start fine tuning the details of what
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: the pitching is going to look like, the strategy for
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: the starters, and how many bullpen games we're going to
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: be seeing is going to be key for this pitching
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: staff moving forward here. So I wanted to start off
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: our conversation about what your thoughts were on how you
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: know Caleb Cotham, how he is going to approach the
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: quote next chapter within this Philly season in terms of
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the pitching. What are your thoughts here, man, from what
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: we've been seeing and what we may see down the road.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I trust Caleb Cotham probably more than
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: any pitching coach in recent memory. Yeah, and I really
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: think you know these he has the guys and they
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: know what they're doing. Right at this point, you don't
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: really have that many young guys. You know, Nolan the veteran, he.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Knows what to do. Wheeler goes through his routine.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: I think an important part to think about with the
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: pitching staff is, you know, missing Ranger here for a
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: while and having to use, you know, triple A guys.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: You know, the Tyler Phillips story was nice, but he
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: kind of showed that he is a triple A pitcher, right.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: He had a couple of couple good outings. You know,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Alard had a couple of good starts too, But you know,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: these guys are there for minor league debts. Basically, you
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: don't want these You don't have to rely on these
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: guys if they have to make a spot start because
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: of injuries, or to give a guy an extra day
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: or two between starts. By all means that that's fine.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: But we're starting to getting a crunch time now, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest things is getting Ranger
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: back and what we get from Ranger Suarez, because remember,
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: you know, in the beginning of the season, it was
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: he was arguably our best pitcher at that time. He
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: won the Pitcher of the Month for the National League
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: in April. Uh, he really was really solid up until
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: about July, which is when you know he kind of
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: started having the back tightness missed the All Star Game.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: So I think it depends on what we're going to
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: get from him. I think that should really help steady
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: the rotation. Now, I'm not expecting him to nessily come
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: back and be a sub three pitcher, right you look
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: at his career. I think he has like a career
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: three thirty eight as a starter or something like that era.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: So you know that's not bad, Like, that's not.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Me saying anything bad about Ranger here, It's just, you know,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: what we were seeing I think was a little bit unreasable.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: If he goes back and pitches to a you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: three three, three, four, three five era, that is an
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: immediate boost to the rotation right there. Yet, other guys,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: you know, Christopher Sanchez, who has you know, been pitching
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: kind of over his head too, And I think a
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: lot of that credit does go to Caleb Copham going
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: back to your original point, right, getting what you can
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: out of some of these guys like Sanchez, like Hoffman
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: when he came over here. I know he's been struggling
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: a little bit lately. I'm sure we'll get to that,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: but you know, he seems to know how to get
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: the most out of these guys. I think it's a
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: long season and I think eventually the innings just start
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: piling up, so you know it's a struggle. But you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Wheeler missed a couple starts around the All Star break.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Hopefully that gave him some time to reset. He seems
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: to really kind of bounce back strong. Rangers obviously had
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of time. He's reaching his innings limit, so
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: hopefully that's been some time for him to recouperate.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: And get ready to go here. So yeah, I mean,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I think you kind of.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Want to avoid as many full pen games as you
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: can when you have five starters. Now, Taiwan Walker, I know,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: has been a very controversial figure right now because he
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: just can't seem to get it together. But I really think,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: you know, they're gonna they're gonna be smart with innings,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: especially as you come down, and if they do clinch
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: a little early, you might see these guys get some
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: extra time in between stars or maybe even miss the
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: start just to stay fresh.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: For the postseason.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I think what's interesting is your your points specifically about
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Ranger Swarres too, because Matt Gelb from The Athletic recently
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: wrote about how Caleb Cotham was talking about Suarez his
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: workload and he could actually reach new career highs in
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: innings this year. In fact, Cotham said, the downtime is
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: probably a blessing. He's looked unbelievable. A little bit of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: rest to reset is probably a good thing for when
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: we're going to hit the gas we gotta go when
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: he's a large part and a huge part of why
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: we're here and if we're going to do what we
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: want to do. So I think a lot of where
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: this pitching staff is going to go in the future.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Of course, Zach Wheeler and an Aaron Nola the consistency
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: that we get from them, but what Ranger Suarez's workload
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: is here, from what Contham is saying, I think that's
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: going to be a huge part of this too.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Buddy, Yeah, absolutely, I mean, you know, usually and the
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: thing is his Ranger has been around for a while,
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: but remember in the beginning of his career he was
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: kind of used out of the bullfen he.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Was using a spot starter here and there.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: He's been around for longer than I think a lot
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: of people may realize. But yeah, he's definitely at an
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: innings you know, he's going to reach an innings max here,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: and it's okay to do that, but you just have
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: to do it smart right. You don't want to blow
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: by it by one hundred innings, but you know you're
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: trying to do it incrementally right and by next season,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: you know, hopefully he can go a full workload. So
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: it's kind of just being smart about managing the innings.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: And I think you know what we've seen from Ranger
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: doing that, he really shows you how valuable he can
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: be to this rotation absolutely.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Well, specifically when it comes to the bullpen. As we're
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: moving along with the conversation here, you know, we saw
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: boy Man. We saw some meatballs recently from Jeff Hoffman
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that have been detrimental in crucial game situations. And it's
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: because the Phillies coaching staff and the managing of where
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: this team is right now, they want their pitchers to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: throw first pitch strikes. Totally get that. We saw in
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the Mariners game Jeff Hoffman, he allowed a first pitch
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: double that brought in two runs. Six days later, he
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: allowed a first pitch walk off home run, and you're like,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what is happening here with Jeff Hoffman.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: But you know, apparently this was an anomaly, as Caleb
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Cotham has said in those situations only that it only
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: happened about two percent of the time, and it happened
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: in the course of like six days, So a really
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: bizarre type of situation. I've been thinking to myself in
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the back of my head, Eric, what is going on
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: with Jeff Hoffman here? Still seeing good stuff from him?
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: And yes, maybe that was an anomaly what we saw
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: in the Mariners game. And then six days later that again,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: that first pitch walk off home run. What are your
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: thoughts on how Jeff Hoffman, how he's performed since the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: West Coast trip, and if you really have any concerns
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: about him moving forward here.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: So it's it's funny because I feel like it's one
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: of the things I kind of like, you know, for
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: the Phillies, when when it rains, it pours, right, Yeah,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: the offense something that both ends starts going down. Yeah,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: So it's uh, I don't know if it's anything new
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: for Phillies fans to see this type of stuff. And
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: you know, the beginning of the year, you know, we
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: talked on the show before about, you know, how the
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: pitching was just you know, way over what we thought
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: they were going to see. I mean, and they were,
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: they were projected to be good, but they were even
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: out about doing that. Everyone's kind of coming back to
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: earth a little bit here. I was looking at Hoffman's numbers,
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: and velocity isn't really an issue like Alvarado's velocity. It
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: seems to be kind of an issue. So I'm not
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: really concerned about Hoffman. It might just be, you know,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: he's he's being used a lot, right, He's being used
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of high leverage situations. I did not a
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: little bit more. He's getting barreled up a little bit
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: more frequently than he was pre All Star Break. But
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: that could just be you know, a little bit of
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: fatigue too. But I'm not overly concerned. I think he
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: can you know, I think he can figure it out.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: He's not the most alarming guy in the bullpen for me. Now,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: obviously this continues for another couple of weeks, then maybe
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: that's something I had to look at. Maybe it's a
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: and you know, a fan Ofmi l Stint or something
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: like that, just to give him a quick breather. But yeah,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: I trust him just because his stuff is still there.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Same thing like Strom, I still kind of trust. I
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: know he's going through a rough patch right now too,
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: but Alvarado is a scary guy for me right now.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: See then, Yeah, you have most concerns about Alvarado at
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: this point.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, big time number one.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: A little bit of dropping velocity, especially on that sinker
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: last night, you know, could not find a strike zone,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: lost four batters in an inning.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I think I saw.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: It was the first time since twenty fifteen affiliates pitcher
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: did that. And he just seems completely lost out there.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: And it could be a confidence thing, it could be
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: a physical thing, you know, it's no one's really said
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: exactly what it is, and they kind of just keep
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: trouncing them out there. Last night, Hoffmin was warming up
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: in the bullpen and I read something this morning someone.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: I asked Rob Thompson about it last night after the game,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: why didn't they go to him?
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: And he said, Walt was already We told him to sit.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Down because Alvarado was already in the game, so they
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: wanted to try to give him the inning.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: But I mean, when you're in a closed game like
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: that and your offense isn't really doing much, it's it
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: is an iffy.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: It's an iff he call, you know, going down at
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: that extra run, you know, and having to make that
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: fight back just that much harder. So yeah, in terms
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: of bullpen, Alvarado is the guy who scares me more.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: I think Hossmin will get his his stuff straightened out,
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: just because there's signs there showing that. I don't know
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: if there's actually anything wrong with them. It might just
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: be a little bit of bad luck.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: All right, Well again, folks, we're talking to Eric Mortelly
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: from that balls out of Here dot com over at
• 53:54
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• 53:57
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• 54:00
  Speaker 1: follow and I want to get into some bats here
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: what we've been seeing because my gosh, the offensive inconsistency,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I mean it's still there. Let's talk about Trey Turner
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: first here from what you have seen him coming back,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and we know he was on a little bit of
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a streak there. Who knows if he's able to be
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: able to sustain that had a couple rough bats last night.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: We were recording this on August twenty first here on
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Wednesday during the day. What are your thoughts on Trey Turner,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: how he's been coming on a little stronger, and what
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: he means to the bats in this lineup here.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: He's a huge part of it, you know.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: I mean there's really a handful of guys you know
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: shorter Turner, Harper to me or kind of the guys
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: who were there too, you be your big impact bats, right,
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: So getting him going again was huge. He went through
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: that slump for a little bit, but it seemed like
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: that day off reset really did do some good for
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: him because he came off of that really on a tear. Yeah,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: and you really need him there because number one is
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: speed on the bases. He can make things happen, and
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: just getting guys on base for you know, Harper and
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: and Bohm and Katy Honust has been hitting hitting the
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: ball well too, So just getting getting on base for
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: those guys, making pitchers think about, you know, him potentially
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: wiping a bag is really big. So yeah, I mean, Turner,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I think is one of the more crucial parts of
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: the lineup as we get you know, as we start
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: heading into September and toward the postseason.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely you mentioned Bryce Harper. I want to talk
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: about him next here, Eric, because we haven't seen a
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: home run from Bryce Harper since August ninth. Maybe not
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the biggest deal in the world, but for who he is,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: what he means to this team, what he inevitably means
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: for the offense. I've got some issues here with this
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and just a very very inconsistent type of batter. I
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: think at this point, since the All Star Break, it's
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: really amazing what we've seen, not in and not in
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: a great way from Bryce Harper necessarily, What are your
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: thoughts on Bryce and and where he's at as we're
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: moving forward.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: So with Bryce, it's interesting because even when he's struggling,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: you know, he could be zero for forty in his
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: last you know, however many his last ten games or whatever,
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: and every time he steps into the play, I'm like,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: this could be the advance that changes thing. So he's
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: not a guy because I mean, he does you know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: he hit, he hits, you know, he does it for power.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: So he's obviously prone to to streakiness, and he has
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: been kind of over the course of his career, obviously
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: turning the offense right now with him not really producing
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: that power, And I think that's one of the big
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: key things you can look at in kind of this
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: inconsistent offensive spell they've been in where you know, they'll
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: put up nine and thirteen runs and then put up
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: you know, one or two. I think though, with Bryce,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: it's just a.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Matter of time.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: I think we're gonna work, We're gonna talk about this,
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: and who knows. It could be it could be tonight,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: it could be you know, next week, it could be
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: the start of September.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: But I just think, you know, when.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: He goes on tears, he goes on tears, and if
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: he's if he wants to take if he wants to
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: wait and let that run through September and October, I
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: must be okay with that.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: As he's a yeah, I like, I just don't worry.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: About you know, he's gonna work through it. He has
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: the track record and you kind of know what you're
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: gonna get for him. And he's a guy who, I mean,
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: not like any of them, wants to do poorly at
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: the plate, but he's a guy who I feel like
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: like you know, takes it personally and he's just gonna
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: come out swinging one day and.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Not look back.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I just don't want it funneling down to other aspects
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: of this team from an offensive standpoint, because he is
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: such a leader. He is the catalyst really of this offense,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: aside from Trey Turner, and I just don't want that
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: funneling down to other areas and aspects of the team,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: because we've seen throughout the course of history baseball that
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: does happen great players when they slump, the team itself
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: kind of gets in a bit of a rut, and
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I think we're kind of seeing that a little bit here.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: But like you said, it is absolutely true. Whenever he
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: steps up to the player, you're like, Okay, this is it,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: this is it, this is gonna happen now. He is
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: gonna be back on target after this at bat. And
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: then we're like, yeah, here, But you're absolutely right, that
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: happens all the time. Let's move on here now, Eric,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: to a guy who coming into this season, I'm thinking,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: of my elf, he's going to be the second basement
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: of the future. In fact, we all thought that last
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty three, I'm wondering how we really
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: should be viewing Bryce and Scott and his future at
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: second base here, and not just at second base, but
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: what he means to this Phillies team in the lineup,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: because it has been a very underwhelming year.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: What are your thoughts so coming into the season, I
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: was expecting this to be Stots breakout year. Yeah, what
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: he showed from us in terms of plate discipline, just
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: working counts last year, I really thought he was going
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: to take a major step forward. Instead, it seems like
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: you've taken that step back now. He's still young. Defensively,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: he plays a great second base, yes, but you're right,
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: the bat has been you know, has obviously been lackluster
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: this season, and it's not it hasn't been a slump, right,
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: You don't have a slump through almost September, right, So,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: and you notice things like he's chasing more pitches out
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: of the zone, he's chasing more first pitches. So it's
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: more like it's almost his approach I think is different
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: than it was last year. And I don't know if
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: at this point he's just put and pressure himself and
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: just trying to, you know, trying to make make it work.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: But I think if you.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Look at this lineup and talk about you know, you know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: m VP's lineup or biggest disappointments, I hate to say,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: but I think Scott has been the biggest disappointment so
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: far in the Phillies lineup from a guy who from
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: expectation purposes, right, I know there's other guys who have had,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: you know, slumps. I know, you know there's other guys
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: who aren't the best hitters. But no one's going into
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: the season thinking Johann Rojas is going to be, uh,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: you know, one of the top hitters in the Phillies lineup, right,
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: whereas Boyce and Scott. I think people went into this
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: and I don't think I was going to think that
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: that he was going to go into the season and
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: take a bit take that big step forward. So I
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: think it is a little bit disappointing. It is a
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: little bit concerning, but you know, it's really going to
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: be interesting to see what he can do down the
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: stretch here because his bat and again he steals just
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: as many bases as straight turner. They had that little
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: competition earlier in the year where it was kind of
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: you know, who's who's going to steal more bases, So
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: him getting on bases is just as important, uh, you
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: know for the Phillies lineup. So that's something even if
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: it's if it's taking walks. But just I just want
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: to see from him better discipline at the plate and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: just working better at best because that's what he does
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: right when he But I now on the converse side
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: of this, you know, after a season last year, pitchers
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: may have learned how to how to pitch him a
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: little bit. Now he has to make that adjustment. I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: don't think I think it's too early to say that.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: You know, he's he's a boss, or he's not going
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: to be good. I think he could just easily turn
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: the season around them by next season, take that major
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: step forward. You know, we kind of sell a boom right.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: He's taking a major step forward this season.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: So we got to be patient. We got to be
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: patient with him. That's what I think. You know a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: lot of people are wanting to run him out of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: town now now we got to be patient, Like you said,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Alec Boum and an amazing presence on this team. We're
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: going to get to him in just a second. But
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: which batter needs to step up? In your opinion here, like,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: who do you think on this team from a batting
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: perspective really just needs to step up here, you know,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: of the course the latter part of this August month
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: here and in September and October.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I think so obviously Stott is one of them, but
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: I think another guy and it seems like maybe he's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: turned the corner a little bit. But JC, yeah, he
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: had he was really really he had a really good
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: season beginning of the season. You know, he missed time
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: getting hurt, and then when he came back to that
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: injury after the All Star break, he was a businal
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: watch for a long time. Yeah, he's finally starting to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: get some some hits now and some of them have
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: been have been big ones. So he's the guy that
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: I'm really looking at to step up obviously, other than
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: you know that we talked about Bryce already in a
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: matter of time, I think for him, but I think,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: you know, if you look at guys who have been underperforming,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: the two guys that jump out familiar Scott and j T.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: And j C has the experience. I think I felt
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: today he's the oldest position player the Phillies. On the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Phillies roster right now, so at least from the every
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: day guys. Yeah, so he has he knows what he's
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: got to do. But you know, age catches up to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: a catcher, and I think we talked about this on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: on one of our earlier shows, maybe even the preseason one,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: but that might just be he's starting to get into
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: that decline and that's not through any fault of his own.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: You know, he's a tremendous athlete, but that is a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: lot awaar and there behind the plate.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: So absolutely all right, Well, to close us out here,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I do want to talk about Alec Bohm. He's been
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the one guy on this team who has really provided
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: consistency across the board. We've talked about him a few
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: times a season here on this podcast podcast platform, and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I do wonder if he'll be seen as somewhat of
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: a you know, quote savior in a way for this
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Phillies team when things were going wrong, when things were
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: not going well at all, when guys couldn't get on base.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Alec Boum again, that consistency that he has provided this
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: team here in twenty twenty four, I think should be
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: at one of the top storylines of the twenty twenty
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: four season here, How are you viewing Alec Bohm's role
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty four.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: I think the word you said, consistency is kind of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: what jumped out to me.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Right. He has been the most consistent.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: Hitter in this lineup, and it's kind of weird because
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: you know, he's a little bit older than Scott and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: he's showing glimpse is at the plate, right but this
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: year he seems really kind of taking that step forward.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: He's a guy where right now.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I talked about Harper earlier, but I'm like, whenever bones up,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, he can make something happen right here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it may not likely won't be a home run. He's still,
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of is missing a little bit of.
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  Speaker 2: That power, but we don't need to see him hit home.
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  Speaker 4: Runs, just driving the ball in the gap, and he's
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  Speaker 4: been able to do that for the you know, the
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  Speaker 4: better part of the season. So I think when you
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  Speaker 4: look at the Phillies lineup and you're depending on how
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  Speaker 4: far this team goes and how this season progresses, you
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  Speaker 4: could look back at this and I'll be absolutely say
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  Speaker 4: that Alec Bohm was a key part to getting this
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  Speaker 4: team to wherever it.
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  Speaker 2: Is that that they they get to. Hopefully.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I don't mind seeing that small ball being played
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  Speaker 1: every now and again. It's not it's not a terrible thing,
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  Speaker 1: especially when certain key components of this team are struggling.
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  Speaker 1: So again, folks, Eric Morritelly, Buddy, it was great talking
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Absolutely, Like I said, I was a good
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