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The Rita Panahi Show | 12 May · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On Scornlands Ostrodia.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Wader Panalty Show. Good evening and welcome
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  Speaker 2: to the Reader Panety Show. Coming up tonight the.
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  Speaker 3: Leadership battles that will decide the future of the Coalision.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Crichton will be here to cover today's top.
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  Speaker 3: Headlines, including a proposed congestion tax for Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump secures the release.
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  Speaker 3: Of an American hostage from her mass as rumors run
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  Speaker 3: wild of a deepening rift between the US President and
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  Speaker 3: Benjamin Netting.
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  Speaker 2: Yahoo Josh Hammer will have the latest from the US and.
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  Speaker 3: Later in the hour, Kinsey Schofield on the overprivileged Miss
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  Speaker 3: Grants arrested at Columba Columbia University and Left is Losing.
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  Speaker 2: It features the.
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  Speaker 3: Former leader of the Free World. He ain't well of the.
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  Speaker 4: Projects, the benefits? How do you lead the world? Harv
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  Speaker 4: An ambusted instruction? How do you leave that? Of the
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  Speaker 4: best Healthcarenral?
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  Speaker 3: But first, the Liberal Party will vote for a new
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  Speaker 3: leader this week. The choice is likely to be between
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  Speaker 3: two contenders, Shadow Treacher Angus Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: And acting Opposition leader Susan Lee.
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  Speaker 3: Now the pair are locked in a tight contest, with
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  Speaker 3: both of them promising to end the so called civil
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  Speaker 3: war between the party's conservative and moderate factions. Ahead of
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow's party room ballad Angus Taylor has said he'll reward
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  Speaker 3: talent over factional allegiances, bring more women into the party's leadership,
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  Speaker 3: and make the Liberal Party campaign fitter, flatter, faster and
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  Speaker 3: more focused. Meanwhile, Susan Lee has said that if the
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  Speaker 3: party elects her as leader, it would send a very
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  Speaker 3: strong signal that we understand that things must be done differently.
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  Speaker 3: She also told colleagues that the Liberal Party must respect
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  Speaker 3: modern Australia, reflect modern Australia and represent modern Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like Malcolm Turnbull in a skirt.
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  Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is chief economist
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  Speaker 3: and senior Fellow at the Institute of Public Affairs, Adam Crichton. Adam,
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  Speaker 3: how do you see this contest?
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  Speaker 2: Look?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm not going to pick a personal favorite, but
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  Speaker 5: I do notice that in both their statements they've said
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  Speaker 5: nothing about policy yet, so I don't know who's going
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  Speaker 5: to have the best set of policy. They've just they've
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  Speaker 5: just made the usual slogans and a dine phrases. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: who do I think they will probably go with? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I imagine Susan Lee because she's a woman, and it's sad
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  Speaker 5: that that's a factor. I think personally, I think people
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  Speaker 5: you know, should be choosing leaders on who's the best leader,
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  Speaker 5: not the sex of the person. But certainly, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the conventional political wisdom would be, you know, go with
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  Speaker 5: a woman because the Labor Party will find that harder
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  Speaker 5: to attack. But you know, I don't think the party
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  Speaker 5: generally needs a lot of unity at the moment. It'd
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  Speaker 5: be fine with me if there was a lot of debate,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of squabbles going on, both in public and private,
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  Speaker 5: so the party can work out what they actually stand for.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been.
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  Speaker 5: A massive loss, there's no shying away from that. And
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  Speaker 5: my view is to get back to their core Liberal party,
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  Speaker 5: liberal party principles of low taxation, free speech, individual rights,
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  Speaker 5: enterprise and so forth. They seem to have lost that,
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  Speaker 5: and so whichever leader is for that, that's.
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  Speaker 2: The one that I would before.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the identity crisis is significant within the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 3: Precisely who they are, what they stand for. That seems
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  Speaker 3: to be a confusing issue, and I think that was
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  Speaker 3: behind this really lackluster, weak, unprincipled election campaign where they
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  Speaker 3: were labor lite and they've had major donors tell them
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  Speaker 3: that and if you're going to run another labor lighte campaign,
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  Speaker 3: don't expect to see any donations from that group. On
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  Speaker 3: Susan Lee, who has added an extra s to her
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  Speaker 3: given name because of numerology.
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  Speaker 2: That's fantastic, isn't it. Wells just got a.
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  Speaker 3: Long track record of being on the wrong side of
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  Speaker 3: debates from the voice to the Middle East issue, to
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  Speaker 3: cultural war issues. This is just last year. Now some
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  Speaker 3: things you can say, well, she's changed her mind. That
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  Speaker 3: was five years ago, that was ten years ago.
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  Speaker 2: This was last year.
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  Speaker 3: This is her promoting the deeply flawed activist gender wage report.
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  Speaker 6: I'm pleased to see the scrutiny that is being applied
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  Speaker 6: today with the release of this data to organizations in Australia.
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  Speaker 6: My message to corporate Australia is it's not good enough
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  Speaker 6: to have a morning tea and cupcakes and pink icing.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: We had conservative women like myself Janet Albrigson, We had
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  Speaker 3: senators like alex Antique Mamcanavan picking holes in this ridiculous report.
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  Speaker 3: It had holes you could drive a truck through. Deeply flawed,
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  Speaker 3: and yet we've got the deputy leader going there and
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  Speaker 3: advocating it like an activist.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is my problem with her, that.
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  Speaker 3: She's led by the bureaucrats and she needs to be
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  Speaker 3: convinced that a position is an actual liberal position.
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  Speaker 2: The Voice is a perfect example.
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  Speaker 3: She was pro voice and then she became an outspoken
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  Speaker 3: critic when the party adopted that position.
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  Speaker 2: It's not exactly authentic.
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  Speaker 7: No, look, certainly that's true.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, to be fair, I know I've been
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  Speaker 5: away for four years out of the country, but Susan
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  Speaker 5: Lee has been around for a while, and I must
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  Speaker 5: say I don't really know what she does stand for.
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  Speaker 5: Whereas Angus Taylor, I could name a few things. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he didn't run a great campaign. Yes, look, I think
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  Speaker 5: I think Susan's a bit of a weather vein in
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  Speaker 5: terms of, you know, whatever's to work politically.
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  Speaker 2: At the moment.
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  Speaker 5: And yes, you're right that report, you know, the so
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  Speaker 5: called gender gape, So the gender pay gap completely vanishes
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  Speaker 5: statistically once you measure everything properly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what was troubling about that, and it
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  Speaker 3: was only last year.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: We spoke to Senator Matt Canavan on Outsiders yesterday and
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  Speaker 3: he talked about the tyranny of group think.
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  Speaker 2: It's what we saw.
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  Speaker 3: At the last election, arguably, but where it was very
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  Speaker 3: difficult to ascertain what the difference between the two parties was.
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  Speaker 3: But we keep hearing these calls for unity, unity, disunity
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  Speaker 3: is death. You've argued, perhaps the obsession with unity can
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  Speaker 3: be counterproductive.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, it certainly is. I mean, as I said earlier,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think they really need unity at the moment.
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  Speaker 5: They need to work out what they stand for, and
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  Speaker 5: not just what they stand for, but also to see,
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  Speaker 5: you know who on the backbench might even make a
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  Speaker 5: better leader than the two that we've already mentioned. There
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  Speaker 5: could be some talented people there, and if there's unity,
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  Speaker 5: they won't be able to speak out. They'll just have
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  Speaker 5: to do whatever the leader does. But we have an
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  Speaker 5: obsession with unity I think in the political system, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the parties are actually can be a problem. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: factionalism is not a great thing. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 5: go back to George Washington or to Tokeville, you know
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  Speaker 5: they argued against parties because they're extremely confrontational and combative
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  Speaker 5: and they often don't work in the interest of the country,
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  Speaker 5: but they work in the interests of themselves and so
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  Speaker 5: sometimes I think it'd be better to have a Parliament
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  Speaker 5: of one hundred and fifty independents and not have parties,
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  Speaker 5: so they'd be actual debate in the Parliament rather the
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  Speaker 5: debate's already being sort of.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we were supposed to have the upper house, the Senate,
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  Speaker 3: be the states and have instead of having party allegiances,
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  Speaker 3: allegiancens to each individual state, but of course that hasn't happened.
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  Speaker 2: It's just gone down party line.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where the unrepresentative swill line about the senator began.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Paul Keating was spot on.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how can you have someone in Tasmania whose
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  Speaker 3: Upper House vote is worth what twenty times of that
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  Speaker 3: on someone in New South Wales. Now let's have a
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  Speaker 3: look at this post election assessment from Federal Vice President
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  Speaker 3: of the Liberal Party. If you own a Scott, this
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  Speaker 3: might give some indication as to why the party has
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  Speaker 3: completely lots its direction under the current leadership, why they
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  Speaker 3: ran such a woeful labor lighte campaign.
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  Speaker 2: She's rejected comments made by.
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  Speaker 3: Former Liberal Prime Minister Tony Abbott and former Nationals Deputy
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister John Anderson who said that not all cultures
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  Speaker 3: are created equal. I would have thought that was a
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  Speaker 3: fairly self evident statement, but she said there is good
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  Speaker 3: and bad in all cultures. It's ignorant to dismiss cultures
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  Speaker 3: or to rank cultures.
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  Speaker 2: It should be an aspiration for all.
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  Speaker 3: People to do better, to do better, to strive to
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  Speaker 3: be better, and to celebrate diversity and uniqueness. Are God,
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  Speaker 3: where's my bucket?
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  Speaker 2: Adam? The Liberal Party lost.
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  Speaker 3: In a landslide listening to that sort of advice, and
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  Speaker 3: it looks like those smaller voices are being emboldened as
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  Speaker 3: opposed to being ashamed of their contribution to that loss.
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  Speaker 5: Well, certainly, the empirical record is very clear some cultures
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  Speaker 5: are superior to others. Western culture, with you know, small
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  Speaker 5: government and individual rights, has produced extraordinary economic growth over
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  Speaker 5: the century. So there's really no doubt about that. So
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  Speaker 5: I disagree with her there. I think our culture is
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  Speaker 5: much better, just inherently. But look, you know where she
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  Speaker 5: might have a point is if you want to win
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  Speaker 5: elections in a country where thirty one percent of people
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  Speaker 5: have born overseas, and that would include many Muslims, many
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  Speaker 5: Chinese people, you know, maybe trumpeting how great your own
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  Speaker 5: culture is is not so helpful.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: It was trumpeting, And I would argue, if you've moved
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  Speaker 3: to Australia, particularly from a Muslim majority country, then there's
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  Speaker 3: a reason why you've moved here, and perhaps if those
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  Speaker 3: cultures were giving you precisely what you needed, whether it's
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  Speaker 3: in lifestyle or opportunity or freedom, then perhaps you would
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  Speaker 3: have stayed.
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  Speaker 5: Look a very good you work, very good point. That's
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  Speaker 5: a very good point. I just think that if a
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  Speaker 5: liberal party ever wants to win, you know, in ten
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  Speaker 5: twenty years those southwestern seats in Sydney, ever.
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  Speaker 3: Why can't they win by appealing to the fact that
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  Speaker 3: these people are one socially conservative when the labor has
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  Speaker 3: veered to the far left on those cultural issues and
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  Speaker 3: the Liberals are too terrified to debate them on it.
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  Speaker 3: And also, these people are, often particularly new migrants of
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  Speaker 3: this country, are hugely aspirational. They come here seeking a
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  Speaker 3: better future for their children. They want to work, they
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  Speaker 3: want to build wealth, they want to be independent, they
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  Speaker 3: don't want to be reliant on welfare. And that's again
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  Speaker 3: something else you can appeal to. But this election, we
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  Speaker 3: had the Liberal Party, opposing tax cuts personal income tax cuts.
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  Speaker 5: It's pretty I mean, it was a very center left campaign.
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  Speaker 5: I would say all this stuff about it was too
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  Speaker 5: trump is I mean, the point to a single policy
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  Speaker 5: that shows that it was very center left. So if
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  Speaker 5: there's a problem, then it's that, not not that it
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  Speaker 5: was too rightly.
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  Speaker 3: But the post mortem analysis from all the usual hacks
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  Speaker 3: is that they need to veer further left.
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  Speaker 2: Every time they veer.
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  Speaker 3: Left, they lose and lose badly. We've seen it with
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  Speaker 3: previous campaigns, and we've seen it in Victoria, wa elsewhere,
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  Speaker 3: and the learnings from it seemed to be completely missing.
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  Speaker 3: Now let's talk about Goldstein, your seat and mine. The
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  Speaker 3: former til MP there, Zoey Daniel. She prematurely declared victory.
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  Speaker 3: Remember that that was kind of hilarious. Look at her
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  Speaker 3: celebrating it.
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  Speaker 2: Was great, yay. Well, she seems in denial over the loss.
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  Speaker 3: Adam tim Wilson has declared victory.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone accepts that the media is reported on it.
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  Speaker 3: But Zoe Daniel, in her latest post on X has
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  Speaker 3: again refused to admit defeat, stating that there are still
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  Speaker 3: up to ten thousand votes to count, and she also
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  Speaker 3: said the AEC has not yet declared the seat, calling
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  Speaker 3: on her supporters to respect the process and voters until.
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  Speaker 2: A definitive position is clear.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see her respecting the process when she was
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  Speaker 3: dancing around celebrating the Massif someone in her in a
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  Speaker 3: circle needs to have a word with her, maybever embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you, being a neighbor, I could just wreak across
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  Speaker 3: and go, Zoey, let's have a word.
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  Speaker 5: She must be pretty shattered. But look, she's going to
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  Speaker 5: lose a big salary soon. I'm not sure actually when
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  Speaker 5: the official date that it gets cut off. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 5: when it's declared, I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: But look, she'll be okay.
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  Speaker 5: She's going to get a job in the SOUL or
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  Speaker 5: the wind power industry, is the head of comms, or
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  Speaker 5: back at the ABBC sorry, or maybe even back at
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  Speaker 5: the ABC. So I think she'll be fine financially, but
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  Speaker 5: she's probably personally a bit shattered and embarrassed.
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  Speaker 3: That was It was now to an outrageous proposal by
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  Speaker 3: the Productivity Commission, the ironically named Productivity Commission. They're talking
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  Speaker 3: about imposing a road congestion tax on those visiting Melbourne CBD.
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  Speaker 9: By the twenty fifties, more than nine million people will
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  Speaker 9: call Melbourne home.
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  Speaker 8: Where As more and more people are trying to come
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  Speaker 8: into our cities, the challenges our roads get super busy.
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  Speaker 9: The Productivity Commission putting forward a proposal to bring in
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  Speaker 9: a congestion levy, a charge for motorists to try to
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  Speaker 9: limit the number of cars and trucks and encourage people
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  Speaker 9: to walk or ride instead.
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  Speaker 5: New York has just introduced such charge. What we've seen
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  Speaker 5: is that travel times have fallen on all the routes
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  Speaker 5: that are going into the city.
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  Speaker 2: Adam.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that this mob called themselves the Productivity Commission
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  Speaker 3: is absurd, as is the notion that this tax is
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  Speaker 3: working a treat in New York. Yeah, of course it's
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  Speaker 3: reducing traffic because poor people, ordinary working people can't afford
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  Speaker 3: to drive into the city anymore. So if you want
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  Speaker 3: to exclude poor people from the CBD from driving into
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  Speaker 3: the CBD, then go right ahead.
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  Speaker 5: Coletely agree with those arguments.
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  Speaker 2: It's very regressive.
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  Speaker 5: And also they're getting ahead of themselves. The traffic in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 5: it's bad, but it's not like Manhattan, I mean, so
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  Speaker 5: they just want to introduce a tax clearly they just
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  Speaker 5: like it.
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  Speaker 2: They're just anti car. Their anti car.
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  Speaker 3: They want to see bike lanes which nobody is using.
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  Speaker 3: They want to see more public transfer. You know what,
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  Speaker 3: you can't take home six bags of shopping on your bike,
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  Speaker 3: particularly if you live in Narry Warren.
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  Speaker 5: But the head of the Productify, the head of the PC,
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  Speaker 5: the Productivity Commission, she was a big champion of Lockdown's actually,
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  Speaker 5: of course, so I'm not surprised that she also supports
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  Speaker 5: this sort of tax. I mean, we need less tax
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  Speaker 5: in this country, not more. I mean, if they want
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  Speaker 5: to boost productivity, why are they talking about stamp duties
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  Speaker 5: in Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just bought a place.
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  Speaker 5: Have to pay fifty grand just for someone to go
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  Speaker 5: that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's a.
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  Speaker 3: Shoe, and that prevents you from easily selling that property
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  Speaker 3: and buying something else.
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  Speaker 2: Because you'll have to pay it each and every time.
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  Speaker 5: A massive problem.
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  Speaker 2: But just silence for the productivity, the productivity.
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  Speaker 3: We need to have some truth in what people call
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  Speaker 3: themselves and their bodies, and calling the Productivity Commission that
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  Speaker 3: name is an insult to productivity and to the English language.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Crichton, thank you so much for your time. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: joining me.
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  Speaker 3: Now is a steem geologist and author professor in primer
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  Speaker 3: in Let's start with the ABC. Former ABC board member
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  Speaker 3: Joe Gersh has called on the taxpayer funder broadcaster to
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  Speaker 3: conduct a comprehensive review of its election coverage. Here is
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  Speaker 3: that the ABC will become a mouthpiece of government under
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  Speaker 3: Labour's supermajority, become I think we got there some time ago.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty eight thousand of those home Remarchael.
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  Speaker 10: What would your mother say hearing you interrupt her?
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  Speaker 2: Just I've been interrupted the entire time. Just please, it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm unflappable, Sarah.
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  Speaker 10: I'm going to ask you one more time, and everyone
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  Speaker 10: is listening to me. Ask this question, how many social
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  Speaker 10: and affordable houses will you build?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we will fund social and for right.
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  Speaker 8: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: You're not getting an answer, You'll get an answer out
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  Speaker 2: of me. And who can forget this on election night?
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  Speaker 10: Let's just talk about this sensibly. Just into We saw
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  Speaker 10: you wearing a make Australia a Great Again hat at
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  Speaker 10: a time when Donald Trump poison to the world. We
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  Speaker 10: saw you give a speech in which you used a
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  Speaker 10: Donald Trump value statement to make Australia, Great together.
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  Speaker 2: Ian.
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  Speaker 3: When the ABC is critical of a labor government, it's
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  Speaker 3: always from the left, never from the right, never from
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  Speaker 3: the conservative point of view. And I would argue their
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  Speaker 3: conduct during the Voice referendum. Their coverage of that issue
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  Speaker 3: was far more reprehensible than what we saw during the
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  Speaker 3: election campaign. It was so relentlessly pro Voice and often
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  Speaker 3: hysterically so.
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  Speaker 2: It was pro Yes in just about every bit of coverage.
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  Speaker 8: Well, that interview was vulgar, it was partisan, and the
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  Speaker 8: ABC has been like that for a long while and
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  Speaker 8: the last time I appeared on the ABC it was
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  Speaker 8: an ambush. Of course, that is their standard tactic. Now.
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  Speaker 8: When Sarah talks about what would your mother think about this?
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  Speaker 8: I look at her and think, well, only a mother
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  Speaker 8: could love that. You can't behave like that on taxpayer
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  Speaker 8: funded television. That is just not the way you behave.
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  Speaker 8: And I think to set behavioral standards like that shows
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  Speaker 8: you that the ABC has got right to the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: It has.
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  Speaker 3: But even if they do agree to this comprehensive review,
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  Speaker 3: we know who's going to be doing the review, and
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: we know what the recommendations are going to be.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: The entire exercise will be pointless because that will.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Come up with no bias, no learnings, and just more
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: of the same.
• 16:53
  Speaker 8: Well, I can suggest some wonderful names for the review.
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: Some of the people that are on this network, like
• 16:59
  Speaker 8: Krager for exactly, plast think he would do quite a
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: good thing.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: He would love that role. He would do it for free.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: He would do it for free.
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: Hard Graves would be another way. So there are some
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: people around who would take a very different view to
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: the soft glove approach that a review would be. In
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: the trick with the review, it's to appoint the people
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: to do the review. You've got to drive that. Once
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: you've appointed the right people, you know the way it's
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: going to go. And that's the way the ABC review
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: is going to be. And I was once a listener
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: to the ABC, especially ABC FM Classic.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And it's just terrible.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: They pretle on piece of music.
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: It wasn't it wasn't. So I think we've got to
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: scrap the ABC except for ABC Regional Radio and put
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: it out the subscription like Sky.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Well, that's never going to happen. And the conservative so
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: called Conservative Coalition governments who had plenty of opportunity to
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: reign in the ABC to fund aspects of it to
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: hold them account and will refuse to do so. And
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: it would be I think her foolish to expect the
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Labor Party to be doing anything.
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: WNG really what you say, and that's what's happened.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about these shock revelations about the Antarctic
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: ice shelf. A study published in Science China Earth Sciences
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: has found that between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty three,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the Antarctic ice sheet, far from disappearing, has been experiencing
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: record growth almost one hundred and eight gigatons or one
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: hundred and eight billion metric tons of ice per year.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: How do we explain this?
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Because I thought these this was going to be the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: end of the world, these rising sea levels and everyone
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: was going to drown, and now we've.
• 18:47
  Speaker 8: Got record gross Well, we have cycles, and these cycles
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: are where the ice sheds grow the ice sheets contract.
• 18:56
  Speaker 8: Now in the Antarctica, you've got another parameter which journalists
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: never meant. They never chase it up in questions, they
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: never put it down in any articles about Antarctica, and
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: that is there are one hundred and fifty geothermal centers
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: and volcano underneath the ice sheet and if you're going
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: to heat the ice from below, what's it going to do?
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: It will melt a very slight temperature raised from the
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: top of the ice sheet. If you raise the temperature
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: from minus twenty to minus eighteen, the ice won't melt.
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: But if underneath the temperature seven to fifty degrees celsius,
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: it will melt.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: So when you.
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: Ignore the volcanic factor, then you end up shock, horror, surprise.
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: We have psychical climates on planet Earth. We've known that
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: for over one hundred years, and nothing should shock you
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: if you're aware of the literature.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Oh well, well, you're speaking there like some sort of
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: a geologist, some sort of leading john.
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: What would climate? We've only been studying it for two
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: hundred years and looking at four and a half billion
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: years of what would What would.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: You know, Professor the implymer? Thanks for your time tonight.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you still to come.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Matt Lefty's losing it plus as Donald Trump. So here's
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the release of an American hostage from her mask. Rumors
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: run rife of a rift between the US President and
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Benjamin ettan Yahoo Josh Hammer.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: As the details.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: You're watching the Reader Panny Show, and it's time for
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: lefties losing it. I'll be bringing you a Biden extravaganza shortly.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: But let's start with one of our favorites, stillan mulvainy
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: who has made a creer out of mocking what he
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: calls girlhood and this fight causing more than a billion
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: dollars worth of damage and almost destroying bud Light. With
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: an endorsement, he is now promoting another iconic brand for
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: such a.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I've never seen you in that dress?
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: Sure, funny, this is the one that I always pull
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: out on my relationships.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Started to get a little serious.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I'm sure they'll have the ladies flocking to
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: buy those overpriced Versace garments.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Well done, Donatella.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Let's check in on a protest that took place in
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: recent days where masked anti Israeli activists stormed Columbia University,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: taking over the library. They may have learned something in there, well,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: they weren't interested in sticking around the library too much
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: knowledge there. It wasn't long before they were trying to
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: escape with shouts of let us out, let them out,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: but security wanted to see id before allowing the protesters
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: to leave. Remember the days when you needed to have
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: an IQ above room temperature to attend university. Now, the
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: most dangerously dumb seem to be recent graduates.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, where else will you hear something this silly?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Do you have depict a country in the Middle East
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to live in? What country would you choose? I would
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: say are On, but I know that it's not the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: best for women.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Probably are On here.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to live in an Islamist hellhole where
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: women are second class citizens. Let's see what other profound
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: insights these two have to provide.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Are you guys ask for a free pastime?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, okay? So what is your favorite free pawsign?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: They chant from the river to the sea, palestign will
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: be free? Do you guys know, like what river and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: what sea that chant? It refers to? Like the Mediterranean?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna go Arabian for you?
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: And what river like?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know river and ams, but I know it's
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the one that's near there.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Let's hear from President Trump now diagnosing another Democrat, Chuck Schumer,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: this time with TDS trumped arrangement syndrome.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: What's here as jd.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Vance cracks up, is trying not to crack up, but
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: he's losing that battle.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Trump really is the funniest president if you don't.
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: And the Democrats are fighting it only because they want
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: to fight. They have Trump derangement syndrome. You know, with
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: somebody else. They wouldn't fight if you had a normal person,
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: if you had some stiff sitting behind you, they'd be fine.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: But they have Trump arrangement syndrome. There. You know, Senator
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: Schumer has become a Palestinian. Welcome. I don't know when
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: they're going to give him the ceremony, whatever the ceremony
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: may be. It's a terrible what's happened to the Democrats.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Now to the ladies of the view, who were joined
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: by former President Joe Biden and his wife, doctor Jill,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and good lord, it was a sickly sycophantic love festing
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: his nephew.
• 24:14
  Speaker 11: Today here beyond happy to have you here today for
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: a lot of different reasons.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: But my question is how are you looked like he
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: was falling asleep there.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Biden did struggle through the program with help from his
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: handler Amina, his wife, doctor Jill, and he was not
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: above engaging in more divisive rhetoric, painting America as inherently
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: racist and sexist.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Apparently that's the only reason Kamala lost.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Well, I was surprised. I wasn't surprised because they went
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: the route of the sexistuit of the whole room. I mean,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: this is a woman, she's this, she's a real I've
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: never seen quite as successful and a consistent campaign, under
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: cutting the notion that a woman couldn't lead the country
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: and a woman of mixed race.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, he really said that.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And he also seems to think that he would have
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: besioned Donald Trump if he hadn't drummed out.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, there is delusional and then there's this knowing
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: what you know?
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: Now, do you think you would have beat him?
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still has seven million fewer votes. Yes, a
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: lot of people didn't show up number one, number one,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: number two, the uh, they're very close in those those
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: toss up states. It was. It wasn't a slam dunk.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: And so look, you know, every time I've been on
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: the show, which you've been fortund I've been fortunate beyond
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: more than once. Thanks for having me. Is that we talk.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: You guys don't focus on as much. And I think
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: it's good pulling numbers, but thankful this way he's had
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: the worst hundred days any presidents ever had.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fact, that's a fact. Is a joy.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: The man who managed this solve the ruinous border crisis
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: within weeks of being in office has had the worst
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: hundred days on record. Even Old Joe, in his feeble
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: mental state, doesn't really believe that, though he did try
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: to blame his failings on the border on Donald Trump.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Listen to this lunacy you got on.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: The telephone, any call. Republicans do not support it. It's legal,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: it'll work, it'll make Biden look good. Don't do it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: They backed off, They backed off.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Impeached for something like that, Well, impeached.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: That's a new and imaginative reason to impeach Trump for
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: things Biden failed to do. As Donald Trump showed, you
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: didn't need the flawed border bill to fix the border.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: You just needed a president knew what he was doing.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Unlike this, dude, Listen to this incomprehensible gibberish.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: All the projects, the projects, the benefits. How do you
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: lead the world having best instruction? How do you leave
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: the world without him the best health carerent role? How
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: do you lead the world without having the best education?
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: So, how do you lead the world and do not
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: have that done. What do you say to that?
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at Large and
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Article three Projects Senior Council Josh Hammer.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Josh, if the goal of that exercise was.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: To convince the American people that Joe Biden was and
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: is cognitively sound, well it was a massive failure.
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, reader, at what point do we just start, you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: charging doctor Jill Biden, so called doctor job Biden. I mean,
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: at what point does she just start getting charged with
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: with elder ab so? I mean, that is clearly what
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: is going on here. I mean I look at clips
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: like this and I genuinely ask, and actually my wife
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: and I were talking about this, like, actually, like what
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: are they trying to do? I genuinely do not know
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: what they're trying to do. Now, there are a lot
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: of rumors floating around here. It's not entirely clear which
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: rumors are true which are not true. Apparently the Biden
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: family is actually hurting financially, and I have a guess
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: as to why. It's because the big guy is not
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: in power anymore and Hunter Biden is not able to
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: basically use that Frank Flynn to bring money into the
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: Coffers of the Biden crime Family bank accounts, Right, So
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: there are all sorts of rumors that Biden is going
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: to try and take a massive book contract nout, that
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: he's going to write a single page of this book
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: because he's looking for ways to make money. So I
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: maybe maybe that's what's going on here. Honestly, I think
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: that's probably going on here. Rita is actually even sadder
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: than that. I think we're looking at as a man
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: who has been in the public sphere here in the
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: United States for more than half a century. Joe Biden
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: first became a US cenator from Delaware in the early
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: nineteen seventies. He simply does not know anything else other
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: than going out before cameras, other than trying to be
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: a public figure. The problem is that he's literally just
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: not capable of doing it mentally, intellectually, physically.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: At this point there.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: And it's really, really, really profoundly sad. But I guess
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: if you're Biden and you're trying to get a book
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: contract and you're willing to basically embarrass yourself before Global
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: TV lines to get a few more dollars into the
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: Biden crime family coffers, I guess they're.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Looking at this and thinking, well, we managed to fool
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the world for four years whilst he was the most
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: powerful man in the world. We had the bulk of
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: the media in on this ruse that he was in charge.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: He was cognitively sound, he was up to the job.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And I think with these books coming out now about
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: his time in office, and some of those books being
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: penned by leftist authors, he's trying to counter that, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: it's not working. Every time he's in front of the camera,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you are reminded of why he should have never been
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: in that role. Now, let's talk about US President Donald
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Trump announcing on the way he can that India and
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Pakistan have agreed to a ceasefire. He wrote, after a
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: long night of talks mediated by United States, please to
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: announce that Indian and Pakistan have agreed.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: To a full and immediate cease fire.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to both countries on using common sense and great intelligence.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now, how
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: tenuous is this piece? This ceasefire? Josh?
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: And what can you tell me about President Trump's offer
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: to work with these nuclear armed nations to come up
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: with a solution over Kashmir?
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: Well, this is an extraordinarily complicated and extraordinarily emotionally religiously
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: fraught conflict bearer in the Cashi or Pakistan. India have
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: been at lagger heads Rita, as you know, for longer
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: than half a century. It has been a very, very,
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: very long time. And both these countries our nuclear powers.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: Anytime you have two nuclear powers that are directly firing
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: each other and not necessarily firing via proxy, as Russia
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: and the United States have been doing Ukraine for the
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: past three years, but literally just directly, no proxy, just unfettered,
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: but you know, shots fired across the border that has
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: potential to be absolute disastrous. So if there is an
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: actual ceasefire and it's it's a very fluid connect situation.
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: With the last I checked, it looks like things were
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: a lot calmer than they were at least earlier in
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: this past week, then that is news to be celebrated
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: all throughout the world. I think that America, fundamentally, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: Donald Trump is the right person to do this, has
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: to reassess its relationship with these two particular countries. So
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: back during the Cold War, India was part of the
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: broader Soviet sphere of influence there, they were cozy with
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: communists China, with a part tiight South Africa, and so
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: war there. So the United States made a decision to
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: ally with India's rival Pakistan. That decision might have been
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: correct at the time, it has not been particularly sound,
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: shall we say, in retrospects. Let's not forget that Osama
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: bin Laden was actually found in Pakistan. Pakistan is increasingly
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: a radical Islamist nation in there. America's ally in this
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: conflict is no longer Pakistan. It really actually is India.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: America and the Western general, Australia, western style countries really
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: ought to stand shoulder to shoulder with India.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: What my money's worked this conflict there.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: I think that Donald Trump's the right guy to make
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: inroads there with Moody and the leadership in New Delhi,
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: and I look for those inroads to hopefully continue.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump has announced that an American Israeli hostage held
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: by HAMA since October seven, twenty twenty three, is coming home.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Trump wrote, I'm happy to announce that Eden Alexander, an
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: American citizen who has been held hostage since October twenty
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: twenty three, is coming.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Home to his family.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I'm grateful to all those involved in making this monumental
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: news happened. This was a step taken in good faith
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: towards the United States and the efforts of the mediators
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Katar in Egypt to put an end to this very
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: brutal war and return all living hostages and remains to
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: their loved ones.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Josh. This development comes out as.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Reports of a growing rift between Donald Trump and Benjamin
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Netting Yahoo emerge. What can you tell me about what
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: this means for the war between Hamas and Israel? Is
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: there a truth that there is a rift between these
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: two leaders.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: So there's an enormous amount of rumors, and it is
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: very very difficult to know what exactly is certain and
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: what is not certain. Now, apparently the asking price that
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Hamas essentially again this is just a rumor, This is
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: not verified, but allegedly the asking price that Hamas asked
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: President Trump and Or to free the last American hostage
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: there was to put pressure on Netta Yahu to establish
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: a definitive time frame to wind down the military operations
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: in Gaza.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: The obvious problem is that Prime.
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: Mister Naton Yahu and the Israelities are not ready to put
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: a definitive time frame on the operations in Gaza because
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: Hamas is not close to being eradicated yet. Now they
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: are deeply, deeply hurting compared to where they were on
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: October sixth, twenty twenty three. That should not be surprised
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: to anyone there. But yes, I think it's fair to
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: say that they're likely are increasingly signs of a rift.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Maybe there is not a rift at this exact moment,
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: but there are a lot of ten situations. The latest
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: rumors over the past twenty four to thirty six hours
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: are that Qatar, of all countries, might be gifting a
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: Boeing seven forty seven to be an Air Force one
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: backup plane or something along those lines. They're Qatar, shall
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: we say, is a problematic country. They are somewhat infamous
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: when it comes to double speak. They like to play
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: the nice role of mediator when it comes to these negotiations,
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: but they also are major funders of Hamas and the
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: Muslim brotherhood there. The Trump Organization recently into big deal
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: to develop a new golf course there in Doha, so
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: it's a little difficult to know exactly what is going
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: on here. At the end of the day, though, the
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: American people and especially MAGA voters. Republicans really do stand
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: overwhelmingly with Primauisternenti Yahu in Israel. So if for no
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: other reason than that reason, Rita, I expect that US
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: Isra relations will continue to be quite close.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Now, a lot has happened in the recent days, is Josh.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: We've got a lot to cover, including the US striking
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: a trade deal with the UK. This was pretty big news,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: but it was a long before the usual suspects in
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: the media were out to downplay the significance of the deal.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to MSNBC.
• 35:20
  Speaker 12: This is relatively low hanging fruit. If you can't get
• 35:23
  Speaker 12: a trade deal with the longest standing and loyalist United
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: States ally anywhere in the world over generations, you're going
• 35:32
  Speaker 12: to be in trouble when you're dealing with some of
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: the more obstruperous countries around the world, the ones that
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: are more willing to resist your entreaties.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Josh, if it's so easy, then why didn't previous administrations
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: do it?
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Why didn't Joe Biden do it?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Why did the Obama administration do it? What can you
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: tell me about this deal?
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: Okay, so this deal I believe really should shatter a
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: lot of illusions as to a President Trump, MAGA more
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: generally believe about trade and what they do not believe
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: about trade. I think a lot of people look at
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: President Trump, they look at him as the so called
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: tariff guy, and they say, this guy doesn't believe in trade.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to trade with anyone.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: He wants every single product, every good, every leg of
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: every supply chain to be made here in the United States.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: It's not true.
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: What nationalists, realists, what MAGA believes is to oppose these
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: multilateral trade boondoggles, these World Trade Organizations style trade deals
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: that loop in twenty thirty countries there and you essentially
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: at some point lose control over the granular details as
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: to what is being traded there.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: What MAGNA supports are.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: Prudential, specific, granular bilateral trade deals. Country A and Country
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: B agreed to lower trade barriers in exchange for blah
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah. That's the sort of thing that
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: the US and the UK worked out. So the fact
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: that this happened and happened fairly quickly, actually barely over
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: a month after so called Liberation Day at the Rosegarn
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: the White House there, that actually ought to be an
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: incredibly auspicious and positive sign when it comes to other
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: countries that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Are looking to negotiate.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: Though, by the way, you know, in response to that
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: clip that we just heard from from that you know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: you know, rather upset leftist shall we say there, I
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: would like to just say one thing. You know, the
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: UK and the US do have a special relationship, but
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: the US also got it it's independence from the UK
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: over two hundred years ago. And in fact, if you
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: go back and look at the American founding, Alexander Hamilton
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: published his report on Manufacturer and he presented it to
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: Congress as the nation's first Treasury Secretary in seventeen ninety one,
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: specifically making the argument that the United States had to
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: be trade independent of Britain because otherwise it would not
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: be successful nations. So it's actually a very long history
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: of America trying to get independent from Britain. There, So
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: actually it's probably a bit of a bigger deal from
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: a kind of a longer form historical view than this
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: kind of you know, hurt left wing commentator would care
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: to point out.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Shall we say, And I'm would say there's plenty of
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: other countries, including my own Australia, that would think we
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: are as bigger allies and to the US as the
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: UK is. So for the UK to get this still first,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I think we'll be wanting to be next in line
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: to strike a deal. Are there other deals that are imminent?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Are you hearing other countries are close to an agreement?
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: Well, Scott be send the tradery secretary. I mean, he
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: was in Switzerland this past weekend, so you know, he
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: was meeting with the Chinese. Chinese counterparts in Switzerland there. Look,
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: I mean Donald Trump put on social media, on truth
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: social the White House actually put out a formal official
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: statement saying that a trade deal had been reached with China. Now,
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: there's not a whole lot in the way of details there,
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: but presumably there's something because I mean this came out
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: not necessarily just from social media, but the White House
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: literally put it on white House dot gov from their
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: verified social media accounts there.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: So hopefully we learn more.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's probably gonna happen in real time
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: here in the next twenty four or forty eight hours
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: or so. But it looks like US China could have
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: an off ramp to this trade war sooner rather than later,
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: which is probably a good thing for consumers. As long
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: as Donald Trump and MAGA and America get concessions out
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: of it. As long as there's something to actually point
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: to and say this is actually a win, then I
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: will be optimistic for it.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: But again, the devil will be in the details in
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Now we're seeing more leftist officials being arrested. Funnily enough,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: when you break the law, you'll end up in handcuffs.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Here is Newark Mayor raz Baraka, who was arrested at
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: an ICE facility. That's the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: detention facility that opened last week. Josh, the mayor, claims
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: he did nothing wrong and he's vowing to shut down
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: the ICE facility there.
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: You know, reader, if I didn't know any better, if
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: I saw this clip in a vacuum of a government
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: official storming, aren't storming a federal immigration facility there with
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: anarcic intention, with the intention of undermining and subverting and
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: dare I say, seeking to on a smaller scale, potentially
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: overthrow one facet of the federal government. You know, if
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: I were being a little bit more, you know, shall
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: we say a little a little more diabolical. I might
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: say this is that this looks a heck of a
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: lot like an insurrection, because that's basically what it is.
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, this is essentially a blue state mini insurrection there.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: And I mean, you know who the hecker of the Democrats,
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: who the hecker of the left this year? You know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: to say that Donald Trump and the whole January sixth
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: and know this was kind of a republic threatening insurrection.
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, what, just what incredible hypocrisy. But the worst
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: part about it to me is that this says so
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: much about the actual state of the politics of the
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: Democratic Party, meaning what plays politically well for them? What
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: is politically for the fact that the mayor of Newark
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: saw fit to do this there, this means that he
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: thinks this is politically beneficial because that guy wants to
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: run for governor Jersey. He used this as a stepping
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: stone for a state ride run. What does it say
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: that a stunt like this, an insurrectionist stunt seeking to
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: get arrested, a photo op and handcuffs that apparently makes
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: you a star in today's Democratic Party? What does that
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: say about that party? Obviously nothing particularly good.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: That's for sure.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I could not believe the antics afterwards, Josh, because he
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: was on every network playing the victim, pretending like this
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: was political persecution. As you said, he invaded that facility,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: refused to leave. He was given plenty of choices and
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: plenty of chances to actually get out of there without
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: being arrested, and he refused. I mean, what, really, what
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: other choice did authorities have in those circumstances.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: They had none. I mean, this guy wanted to be arrested.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: He literally had every intention of going there and being
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: arrested for the cameras because he knew that he would
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: get off their two tier assistant adjustice. Again, it's newer
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: New Jersey. It's a very blue jurisdiction there, Democrat governor
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: and on and on there. But again, he wanted this showdown.
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: He literally wanted this because he thought that would play
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: well for state wide voters. By the way, New Jersey
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: is actually a politically interesting state. New Jersey's actually not
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: quite as blue as people think it is. In fact,
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: if you look at the twenty twenty four election, Donald
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: Trump versus Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris wins that state. I
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: forgot the exact margin, but it's roughly five points five
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: five and a half points, which actually is really not
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: a particularly wide margin at all, And in fact, Republicans
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: have actually been making inroads in the New Jersey state
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: legislature as some of these suburbs and ex serbs of Philadelphia,
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: New York City trend a little bit rhtter in a
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: more maga direction. There, there's a lot of people speculating
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: that New Jersey could actually be in play at a
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: presidential level in twenty eight or twenty thirty two at
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: the latest. So you know, the mayor, you know, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: the mayor might think that he is doing this as
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: a as a political stunts to benefit his career there
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: in the Garden States, but he might actually be in
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: for a rough surprise, believe it or not.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time tonight, My pleasure
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Coming up.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: The overprivileged child of a Hollywood star among those arrested
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: at Columbia University, Kinsey Schofield, is up next.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Welcome back joining me now.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey's Schofield. Kinsey, the daughter of
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Maggie Gillenhall Gillenhall, Ramona, has been arrested during the chaotic
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: anti Israel protests at Columbia University last week. She has
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: reportedly been given a desk appearance ticket for criminal trespassing.
• 43:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah, nepotism is so en rate now, Rita, It's not
• 43:47
  Speaker 11: just a mug shot anymore. It's a headshot for her
• 43:50
  Speaker 11: next roll as Misunderstood Nepo baby number three. What a
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: fascinating social experiment here in the States when your last
• 43:57
  Speaker 11: name gets you into night clubs, move and courtrooms all
• 44:01
  Speaker 11: in the same week.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Now, Alex Baldwin's wife, Hilaria has penned a new memoir
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: titled Manual Not Included, where she talks about life with
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: her Hollywood husband and their seven children. Let's look at
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: her ridiculous antics.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: With the paparazzi. Who I suspect she organized herself.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: You have a book that just came out.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: How are you feeling.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: I'm feeling good, feeling.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Good, busily that's true, Thank you so much.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: The kinsey.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Of course, we all cross the street holding books in
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: that manner. I mean, the whole thing was so absurd.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Who's she kidding with these antics?
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: Hilaria now claims in her new book that her fluctuating
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: Spanish accent is due to a medical condition ADHD in dyslexia.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I have to ches.
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: Marco well before I would ever believe this. Hilary from
• 45:02
  Speaker 11: Boston is giving Blue Origin energy right now.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: This is Oh my god.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I think I'm going to have to get you to
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: read this book and just tell us the low lights
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: and talking about low lights. There's been a lot of
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: conjecture about Meghan Markle's podcast appearance with her good friend.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Particularly about this point of.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: The interview where she appeared to be wiping away nonexistent tears.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Have a look.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Now, different commentators have zoomed in on her face and
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: they say they can detect no tears.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: So what was she wiping away?
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: In ZI?
• 45:51
  Speaker 11: This is so disappointing coming from Megan Michael, who has
• 45:54
  Speaker 11: gloated in past interviews that she just needs three seconds
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: to secrete a fake tears out.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Of her left eye.
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: You'll notice her in Queen Elizabeth's funeral that there's only
• 46:05
  Speaker 11: any type of saltwater discharge exiting her left eyeball throughout
• 46:09
  Speaker 11: the entire event. She's just being lazy here. I think
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: she probably doesn't want to ruin that electric spraytnd of hers.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, apparently it was a makeup free appearance. But yeah,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I think her acting skills may be slipping because I
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: did not see a tear there.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe if I.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Looked closer, one would appear, but I don't think so.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Now the Sussexes have copped it from comedian Colin Just
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: on Saturday Night Live. He's showing that one of the
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: conditions of Trump's new trade deal with the UK is
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: that Harry and Meghan have to go back.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: It's pretty cruel, Kinsey.
• 46:48
  Speaker 11: Look, there's no way President Trump would accept that deal.
• 46:51
  Speaker 11: He's called Megan Markle nasty and says he feels sorry
• 46:54
  Speaker 11: for Prince Harry because his wife is a lot to
• 46:56
  Speaker 11: deal with, you know. Trump says he hates the way
• 46:58
  Speaker 11: that Harry dealt with the Lake and judging by his
• 47:00
  Speaker 11: friendliness towards King Charles, he won't appreciate the way Harry
• 47:04
  Speaker 11: continues to run his mouth against the monarchy today and
• 47:07
  Speaker 11: say what you want about the Trump dynasty, but they
• 47:10
  Speaker 11: are incredibly close and loyal to one another.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Now more troubles for Paul Megan.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: She has been threatened with a ten million dollar lawsuit
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: after a woman suffered catastrophic burns allegedly from the Duchess's
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: do it yourself bath salt recipe.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: This is a recipe.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: That Kinsey featured on her Netflix's show What else can
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: you tell me about this?
• 47:37
  Speaker 11: Well?
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I could tell you.
• 47:38
  Speaker 11: I spoke to two attorneys about this. Both said this
• 47:40
  Speaker 11: potential lawsuit could no pun intended have legs. Attorney Christopher Melcher,
• 47:44
  Speaker 11: who's ally based on Hollywood, here that Netflix could have
• 47:48
  Speaker 11: and probably should have, put a disclaimer on the screen
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: to save their own skin, saying, you know, consult a
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: doctor or seek medical advice if you're looking for something specific.
• 48:00
  Speaker 11: Meghan foamd this is crazy, he said. She's willing to
• 48:02
  Speaker 11: resolve the matter without litigation if a financial settlement can
• 48:06
  Speaker 11: be reached. Feels like a little bit of a shakedown,
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: but if her demands are not met, she intends to
• 48:11
  Speaker 11: launch a lawsuit seeking settlement damages of a minimum of
• 48:14
  Speaker 11: seventy five thousand dollars to cover medical expenses.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Ah, this is going to be fascinating because if there
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: is some sort of a settlement, I expect to see
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: a lot of other people coming forward with their own stories.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: You don't want to incentivize that kind of behavior if
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: it's not genuine before you go, Kinsey acted. Tom Cruise
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: has shut down questions about Donald Trump's movie tariffs. At
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: a recent press event in Soul for Mission Impossible, the
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Final Reckoning, he told the Tends that he'd rather answer
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: questions about the movie.
• 48:49
  Speaker 11: This is why I think people like Tom Cruise, why
• 48:52
  Speaker 11: he has this longevity when it comes to his career,
• 48:54
  Speaker 11: because he's like, I'm not going to get political. I
• 48:56
  Speaker 11: want to focus on the facts. I'm here to promote
• 48:58
  Speaker 11: my movie. And I think that that's why his career
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: is as long as it is.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: He's had plenty of bad press, Kinsey, particularly with his
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: personal life scientology, but he's still a box.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Office hit, and I think you're right.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Part of it is he does big films, but part
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: of it is he steers clear of politics. He lets
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: other people worry about that so he doesn't alienate half
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: the population with his political views, whatever they may be.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Kin Ziscofield, always a pleasure. Thanks for your time tonight,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: and that's it from me. Up Next is Newsnight. I'll
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: see you at eleven tomorrow night.