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- 0:06We are about to see one of the biggest changes in the financial system we've
- 0:09ever seen before. Today we're going to be breaking all that down and it
- 0:12involves crypto digital assets, token is securities. Don't want to miss it.
- 0:16My name is Paul Barren. Welcome back into tech path. Let's start by
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- 0:51Let's go into a couple of points here I want to hit on, and
- 0:54that, of course, is the legislative framework that seems to continuously brew here.
- 0:58Let me kind of zoom in on this one right here. June fifth,
- 1:00that's this week we have the next generation infrastructure, how tokenized of real
- 1:06world assets will facilitate efficient markets. Now we've got a lot to talk about
- 1:10here, because this is getting into Carlos Domingo, he's been on our show
- 1:14before. This is the co founder and CEO Securitize, running the biddletoken tied
- 1:18to Blackrock, And what they're going to be talking about is additional legislation that
- 1:22could be brewing up as well. And part of this is going to be
- 1:25the development of token ised securities and derivatives products. So that's another one in
- 1:29addition to FIT twenty one. So think about FIT twenty one but for tokenized
- 1:33assets. Then they're also going to be talking about this new HR eighty four
- 1:37to sixty four, which is the Tokenization Report Act of twenty twenty four.
- 1:42Also, last up before I go to the next tab over here is Professor
- 1:46Hillary Allen. You guys remember this name. This is the professor of law
- 1:49American University, Washington College of Law. Okay, remember that name, because
- 1:53the last time we featured her was in this video right here, and that
- 1:59was all the way back a year ago when Filecoin basically said we know you're
- 2:05anti crypto. Here's all the problems with your statement, and they basically just
- 2:08dismantled our arguments left and right. Well, that's not the end of it.
- 2:12She's going to be coming back to Capitol Hill to again go directly against
- 2:16crypto, and of course she's got to be on you know, Senator Warren's
- 2:21position here. She is right here over on X pessimistic financial futurist, meaning
- 2:25I don't believe in crypto. This is really what it should have said.
- 2:30And I want to play a clip from a podcast that goes in further.
- 2:34This is a very interesting podcast, so bear with me on this. Listen
- 2:38to what she has to say right here. This is a very important piece
- 2:40because this is her positioning on crypto. Take a look, what kind of
- 2:46regulation do you think should be put in place. I mean, the first
- 2:49thing I would like to see is sort of a blanket ban on any banks
- 2:53or other sort of institutional financial players getting into the crypto space. There is
- 2:59nothing in crypto that really makes it a better solution for people who need cheaper,
- 3:06faster payments. So you don't see it as opening up of financial opportunities
- 3:12to people who at this point, you know, don't really have access to
- 3:15the traditional financial system. No, because to get a loan in crypto,
- 3:20you have to already have crypto and stake that crypto for the loan. So
- 3:23that's not going to bring new financial services to people who don't already have capital.
- 3:28You know, if you need to be able to make payments quickly,
- 3:32you don't want to have to go through exchanges who are going to charge you
- 3:37significantly to convert your fee into crypto and then back again. And not even
- 3:42that, there's not even any productive capacity. Like if you buy a share
- 3:45in a corporation, you know they make something, or they build something,
- 3:49or they sell something. You know, there is plant, there are employees,
- 3:52et cetera. And if that corporation were to fail, then you could
- 3:55liquidate everything and you know, you might not get much for your share,
- 3:59but there's something there, whereas most crypto assets have nothing behind them, and
- 4:04so there are values entirely dependent on someone else being willing to buy that asset
- 4:11from you. Okay, well there's a lot to unpack there. Of course.
- 4:15First of all, almost every point she was hitting on the loan origination,
- 4:19that you've got to carry an asset to get a loan upon it.
- 4:23Yeah, that's called banking law. I mean, no bank is going to
- 4:27give you a loan without a securitized asset behind it. Whether it's real estate,
- 4:30car, it doesn't matter if it's bitcoin, Okay, that's an asset.
- 4:34Yes, So that's the first fallacy. The other thing around speed of
- 4:39transaction and openness in terms of people who don't have access to traditional banking system
- 4:44that's all over the world. We already see that there are emerging countries there
- 4:47are a problem and is a problem right now in terms of speed of transaction.
- 4:51We already see this every day here, even in the American banking system,
- 4:57one of the most modern banking and financial systems the planet that still have
- 5:00ach slowdowns which take you from one bank to the next bank a day or
- 5:06two in some cases. And remember don't forget they don't work on the weekends.
- 5:11So all of those of course slow the entire financial system down, which
- 5:15creates this whole system around business called float, which many businesses operate on.
- 5:19So that's another big factor. The other thing about the idea that you couldn't
- 5:24send it crypto from one wallet to another without the use of a middleman just
- 5:30simply put her in a position that she absolutely does not know what she's talking
- 5:33about when it comes to crypto. So all that being said, let's take
- 5:38a look at where real world assets are actually going. We'll go right up
- 5:41here to the top one, and that gold one is right there at the
- 5:43top. If you can't see that, let me kind of zoom in on
- 5:46that for you guys just a little bit. That's bittle. Well, that
- 5:47is Securitize. Security is going to be at this hearing getting ready to go
- 5:51head to head with our professor there, and I think that will be an
- 5:56interesting conversation. What are we going to see also coming soon? Real estate
- 6:00commodities, stable coins, all of that starting to line up here in real
- 6:03world assets. All right, So let me go to another chart real quick.
- 6:06This is kind of where we are right now on twenty twenty four incusses
- 6:11at about one point five and look at the tokenized asset potential. It differs
- 6:15across a little bit of countries due to the variation in their maturity of regulations
- 6:18and the size of the asset classes. But the key here is look by
- 6:21twenty thirty the growth we're going to see around tokenied securities, all of this
- 6:27and tokenized assets, all of this in a very high growth rate. I
- 6:30want to go to a couple of clips for you guys to kind of explain
- 6:32a little bit of where this is going. This one is a reminder around
- 6:38Larry Fink and what he predicted on the ETHTF. Take a look. Let
- 6:43me be clear, I think ehfs are step one in the technological revolution in
- 6:47the financial markets. Step two is going to be the tokenization of every financial
- 6:51asset. Do you think Gary, and we'll talk to him later, Garytherum
- 6:57will have to approve an ethereum? Yeah? Or do you think that all
- 7:00these things have to go to court first? I couldn't respond to that.
- 7:04I see value in having an ethereum ETF as I said, these are just
- 7:10stepping stones towards tokenization. We have the technology to token ice today. If
- 7:15you want to talk about think about this if we had a token ice security.
- 7:18Jamie Dimond disagrees with you on that, butt does he? Though.
- 7:23Jamie Diamond, though, goes into this a little bit more. Remember he
- 7:27has been an antagonist of crypto for quite some time. But there's a little
- 7:31bit of a plot twist. Take a look, we've been deeply opposed to
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- 9:11few clicks. This is a lot of work that JP Morgan has been doing.
- 9:16If you guys, remember look at that video right there, you'll probably
- 9:18notice a handful of crypto projects that are right there center stage. One of
- 9:24course, is Avalanche right in the middle of that with Wisdom Tree, and
- 9:28then also you look at Apollo coming in right there under Providence Broctane, which
- 9:31I'll show you guys in a second. Why that's important? All right,
- 9:33let me jump back over here to the hearing that's coming up, because there's
- 9:37another name here and you pay attention to, and that's Robert Morgan, chief
- 9:41executive officer USDF. Al Right, who is what is USDF Consortium? We'll
- 9:46go over and jump into their website. USDF is the banking industry's answer to
- 9:50the need for a digital dollar. Let's go down further. You can kind
- 9:54of start to see the members there, you've got amorant there connect one,
- 9:58a lot of them, the mid sized banks, First Bank, et cetera,
- 10:01New York Community Bank. So with this you look at all, right
- 10:05where and what blockchains are involved here? Let's go further into the page.
- 10:09What blockchain will USDF operate on? Right there, Providence blockchain, remember that
- 10:13name, Providence blockchain, tied to JP Morgan, tied to Avalanche. Coming
- 10:18back in, there's Providence blockchain right their one connected financial services ecosystem. Again,
- 10:24going back to that JP Morgan video, it starts to break down all
- 10:28these components. So it starts to lay in a very intricate, but yet
- 10:33somewhat very pointed effort in a lot of the major names that we recognize on
- 10:39Wall Street every day. Black Rock, JP Morgan, et cetera. Tokenized
- 10:43assets are now here. They are for sure in play. Here is why
- 10:48all of this is being taken so seriously right now, and that is stable
- 10:52coins under MICA final countdown application on stable coins is now started. This happens
- 10:58on June thirtieth. Right there, we are less than thirty days away.
- 11:01We will have stable coins in the European Union and MIKA will be in the
- 11:05guidance factor within that. Here's the announcement from Jeremy, A layer that is
- 11:09very interesting because this starts to paint a picture for what stable coins are going
- 11:13to be involved. Now, I want to look at a couple of things.
- 11:16Major changes coming to the European digital asset market June thirtieth. Look,
- 11:22take a look at this announcement. Now I'm going to bump to this announcement
- 11:26and show you guys something that is kind of an interesting statement. And I
- 11:30want to highlight right here spot trading Trading pairs with unauthorized stable coins will remain
- 11:35available until further notice. We know what unauthorized stable coins that is. That's
- 11:41now known as Teather. So how does this play out? Because there's a
- 11:46lot of people all right, well this is happening. Is Tather going to
- 11:48get delisted? Is Teather going to be a stable coin of use anymore?
- 11:52How is that going to play out? A couple of points happening with Binance
- 11:54right here, here's Richard Teng who's the CEO of Binance, playing into this.
- 12:00Want to take a moment address the bigger questions about Raised raised, our
- 12:03strategy for the upcoming MECA stable coin rules. Please be assure that Finance won't
- 12:07delist any unauthor raised stable coins on spot, but we'll limit their availability for
- 12:11EA users. So this itself is finance prepping to get away from this.
- 12:16So, man, this gets really intriguing as it starts to play out in
- 12:22the United States, especially as we start to see a fast track, most
- 12:26likely of a stable coin bill. I want to play a couple of clips
- 12:31for you. The first one is cracking, kind of talking about how far
- 12:35we're behind. Listen, do you think this is the year that we catch
- 12:37up with jurisdictions with respect to establishing a crypto framework. I'm thinking of Mica
- 12:43and Europe, and how optimistic are you that by the end of this year
- 12:46we'll see some of this legislation like get signed into law. In Europe,
- 12:50you see the Markets and Cryptocurrency Assets rule charge ahead. They were light years
- 12:54ahead of us on this, and as a result, we're seeing American companies,
- 13:00American innovators, American entrepreneurs move off short Now we are committed to the
- 13:05US market. Cracket has made that public. But I got to tell you,
- 13:09it's tough to deploy capital here. It's tough to employ people, it's
- 13:13tough to plan for product rollouts without certainty. I don't know how they beat
- 13:18us on this. I kind of do, and I could spend a little
- 13:20bit of time on it, But they beat us on this. That holds
- 13:24as you can see jobs, livelihoods in the balance. I know what you
- 13:28can see here, I know what I can see here. I don't know
- 13:31what the cameras can see. But all these people have been pushing and pushing
- 13:35and pushing to have their voices heard, and eventually that dan breaks. This
- 13:41is Brad Garlinghouse talking a little bit about this, and he goes into what
- 13:46could be coming down the pipeline, because if everything lines up here along with
- 13:52what's happening with Ripple, we could see a stable coin bill getting improved.
- 13:56In fact, I believe we will. I think one is going to get
- 14:00approved, and I think we do get a stable coin and bill approved before
- 14:03the end of this year. And I know there's some people that will assess
- 14:05that differently. But let's go to this clip. So you're getting get the
- 14:09business of stable coins. Why now, I think you look at where the
- 14:11market is going. Well, you're right, it's summer to one hundred and
- 14:15fifty two hudred million dollars today. I think forecasts are that's going to be
- 14:18somewhere around two trillion to three trillion, So that's growth of ten to twenty
- 14:22x where it is today. So that in and of itself has kind of
- 14:24those are fun markets to be and that they're growing quickly. The second is
- 14:28I think there's likely to be some shifts in market share. Today, Tether
- 14:33is by far the dominance. I think the US government's take the position,
- 14:35well, if you're represent a US dollar, you can be regulated by the
- 14:37United States. That isn't the case today, and I think there may be
- 14:39some shifts in how that market share. But look overall, I think teather
- 14:43will continue to grow. I think USDC will continue to grow up. I
- 14:46think there's a lot of room as that market grows for a rippleback stable coin.
- 14:50And what does this mean for XRP. Do the two work in tandem
- 14:52or does the stable coin supplant xrp's utility. We think having a stable coin
- 14:56built on the XRP ledger actually adds the qu to the XRP ledger. We
- 15:01already have been using stable coins in our payment flows, so you can anticipate
- 15:07that Ripple's probably going to have quite a bit of an impact on the use
- 15:11of stable coins. In fact, we'll see their stable coin roll out this
- 15:13summer. Ripple switches their US on demand liquidity their ODL CLISS from XRPDUSTT.
- 15:20This of course was last year's issue. So if this plays out and we
- 15:26do see the Ripple stable coins start to play into it, we could see
- 15:28liquidity start from ODEL especially start to shift over to Ripple. Now, with
- 15:33all that being said, is the US ready for such a thing? There's
- 15:39actually an executive order that has been issued already. This was actually issued in
- 15:45twenty twenty two, particularly in setting standards that promote democratic values for law,
- 15:50privacy, protection of consumers. All these are good investors and businesses and our
- 15:54interoperability with digital platforms, legacy architecture, and international payments syst and let means
- 16:00swift. We know that XRP is already working with Swift. This is of
- 16:03course, was one of the initiatives that pushed Yellen into working on understanding what
- 16:08was happening here. It also accelerated all of this movement. I think of
- 16:12where we are seeing right now, the acceleration of stable coins being approved,
- 16:17simply meaning we could see a fast track here on stable coins, especially,
- 16:22maybe even faster than some of the other bills that are coming out, maybe
- 16:26prior to even when Meeka's deadline hits in June, so a lot could be
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