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We Hunt Ghosts · Archons Corner

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  Hi, this is Michael Hurley from Ghost Galaxy and you're listening to our Cohn's
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  Corner. All right, everybody, what's going on? I am the one
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  you only in the wh Okay. I joined here. We're a few misfits
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  short of a happy meal this week. But we got drafts car with us.
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  Hey, it's going. We got the ewokst of Ewok's Ewok Junior.
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  Hello, Keyboards. Hummunity Z is sitting still in the corner chat. I'm
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  not one hundred percent sure what he's doing. He's over there, hanging out
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  over there. We put him, We put him in the corner tonight.
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  He's been a bad boy. He's been a bad He's been a bad bad
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  boy. Um and uh in the sheep is uh. He's still camping.
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  He's a camping machine, it really is. I think he's burned roll as
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  PTO days like crazy. He's like, I don't want to go back to
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  that place. So so now when you're at a Vault tour and you don't
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  see Sheep, you know why because he had no PTO because he's camping.
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  He did come back for the work week, and he came out on Tuesday
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  to play over yet well, he was a short it was a short work
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  week, and people are getting into summer hours now, lots of options.
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  Summer hours, Yes, summer hours. For some of us, it's shorter,
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  some of us not at all happy, happy happy, No more school
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  day for most of you. Some I know, start stopped last week.
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  Some are next week still. But my kids are, well, one's done
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  and then two have tomorrow and then it's over. It's over. It's over
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  another year in the books. My kids are so excited no summer. I
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  don't know. This seems like the most exciting, like the most excited my
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  kids have been for summer and sometime m that is that just my household.
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  It's been a long, long year. It's been a long year for a
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  lot of people. Right, Okay, so it's not just my kids who
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  are like, yeah, I'm my body is ready for summer and I don't
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  want to do school. No, most so z's done, right ze last
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  week was your kids last week? Yeah, I've been on summer hours this
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  whole week. It's been pretty great. Although I am doing this like summer,
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  it's not really summer school, but it's like SAT prep for smart kids.
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  Um, so I got twelve days of that starting on Monday, So
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  I'm not looking forward to that. But it's only four hours a day,
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  so yeah, that's not this week's been awesome. Is there a separate SAT
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  prep for kind of dumb kids? That's that's cut. Well, like when
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  you take the p SAT your sophomore year, you get put in this like
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  competition and then if you score a certain amount, you can get in this
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  national like thing that our school was a part of. And because though it's
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  invite only, you had to score a certain amount. Um. So if
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  you get below that, no you're not invited. It is free if you
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  get above that. Um, but it is so I yeah, dumb kids,
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  they just have to go study. I guess I don't know get to
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  it. Yeah, I never took. Don't means you can't speak so um
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  there's probably you know, accommodations for that. I never I never did the
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  SAT. I did the act? Did I really? Yeah? Yeah?
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  I did. The SAT act is a more localized components. It seemed a
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  lot more growth now but more Midwest. Um SAT is a little bit more
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  universal, Yeah, especially East coast. I had no I had no desires
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  to leave the old Wisconsin at that age. So I took the act.
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  Most of my friends, the people in my school did only take that SAT
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  weekend. I was supposed to take that SAT. I was playing StarCraft for
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  a weekend, so I just I was gonna say he was. He was
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  playing key for it right, like uh back in the day, I was
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  ninth on the ladder. It was the thing. Oh but I my like
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  I had my step my copy because I had got scratched or something. And
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  then I was moving. So I quit in a year after that, like
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  it became a sport in Korea. I was like, I don't play anymore,
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  Like what the hell? But um, yeah, it was it was.
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  I could have moved to Korea and just played. Yeah, I know,
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  I could have actually been an esports StarCraft for I was pretty good.
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  I played random. I didn't care like I just went in and did my
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  thing. And I'm old now that that stuff like that clicking too fast,
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  like I can't even click that fast. And keyboard I was playing with some
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  some of my teammates last week. I physically cannot press the keys fast enough.
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  As I see their cars fly onto the thing, I don't know what
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  the hell they're doing. They got that subject into their neurons, Like,
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  um, I don't know how they do that. At least it's not just
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  I thought it was just me, because there are times where I'm like,
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  I don't even know what just happened here, and I have to read the
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  I could follow everything, So I'm not like that, like that's not an
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  issue, Like I could even think fast enough to do what they're doing,
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  Like I just can't physically press the buttons that fast. So I am aged
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  out of all esports apparently, so you heard it here first, Zia is
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  retiring from all the sports, even Diablo for. That's not really a sport,
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  that's the casual game, how is Diablo for? Zis abandoned most most
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  of his duties for Diablo for. So that's not true. I played I
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  played it two different days. That was it. Ya just happened to catch
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  me on a game night, blow fort night. I probably logged in six
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  hours total. That's not in the in the game itself, to six out
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  six hours isn't crap, guys, Like that's not like six hours this week
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  or no total total? Yeah, so I have not known. I have
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  played a lot of keyboards last two weeks though, Like that done? Yeah,
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  I've not noticed people taking off work for Diablo four like I did for
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  uh Zelda. That could be like D three launch was huge too, and
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  it was a nightmare. Yeah, there are definitely people a few weeks ago
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  though for Zelda. But but but as Sheep would say, what did God
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  do? So we're gonna move on to abr what's going on? And yeah,
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  that's exactly how he says. I don't know if we should have got
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  x ray on for ABR Oh boys, cartel us, what's going on?
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  In what? I mean? Good? I got, I got this for
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  my I got my match in the dress group officials team all right, go
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  fart, go fart. So I don't know what game my teammate was playing,
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  but I was pretty sure it was best of one and I got the
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  like the ding in the in the team chat that like his match was about
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  to start, and I know it has started when I started in my game.
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  But like my teammates match stars whatever format it is, X ray and
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  me meet up and I was like, when are we doing this night?
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  He's like, well, let's do it now. So I log in,
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  we send our trittryat so I sent him in his sex Season three mine,
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  we do our strikes, we jump in, we finish our whole match before
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  my best of one teammate finishes his game. Like, I don't know if
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  it was two oh, I I took both games. I think x Ray
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  might have forged two keys total. I'm not sure, but it was super
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  fast. But he got his revenge today. We were playing some games today.
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  He's crushing me today. But yeah, like that wasr So I'm moving
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  on to the finals for Triad. I think he was surprised with my strike.
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  He came at me with um Left the Cloud, great deck he played,
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  came out with me with Jaggerhart great deck, and he came out with
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  Roth, which is an AOA deck. I looked at like my matchup and
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  like, I play against a lot of x Rays decks quite often, and
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  I was like, huh, well, I know what the swin's weakness is.
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  I looked at my Triad. I think I can just exploit that.
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  I banned the AOA deck, which felt really, really weird, but I
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  was very confident that was the right goal. He came forward with Left the
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  Cloud and it did not go well with him at all. But I think
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  my team is three and three this week. How's your team do adress?
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  Wow? Uh? So x Ray did not do well? Oh man,
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  the poor the poor guy was fast though I always was fast. So the
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  poor guy comes into UH to the chat and he's like, I think I
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  should just quit key Forge, and the cheep starts, you know, poking
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  him. He's like, well, you know that means it's time to time
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  to teach key Forge. He's also teaching x Ray stuff now. So there
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  was a good laugh about this. But um, so we yes, our
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  team is also in the playoffs. My game's actually tonight after this recording.
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  Uh. And then Sheep won his match already, so that's good. Southerly
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  who's in the audience? Southerly Off, he won his match. And I
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  know a couple of the guys have also played with wins and losses, so
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  I actually about one hundred percent on what our win loss is right now.
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  But I'm pretty sure we're head on the wind so so far feeling good.
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  Um and uh, figures crossed. We can take it all the way to
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  h to win another championship, another one you've won one before at the top.
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  Yeah, we won a couple of seats. What's this season nine?
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  So I think we won six season six? I think right on? So
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  uh that that only leaves you walk um and we're done. Oh our team
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  did not watch like x rays game this week? He walks done when it
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  wasn't slow walk, it was the best of one. Well well z x
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  Ray pounded out a couple of games the tryad, Yeah, finding it out.
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  Yeah. I got back to my team chat, I was like,
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  y'all are still playing? What's not going on? My game's done? Guys.
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  Oh man, oh that's funny, Ray, So bust out your x
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  ray sucks decks because that's pretty much what happened. I almost started write something
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  like that in the game report, but I felt so bad, like,
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  uh, noah, he's a gay man, big boy. Oh poor x
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  Right. I didn't dig into the the title one. Yeah, So big
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  announcement here real quick for everybody. Um, a couple Patreon announcements for a
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  little bit of house clevelanding. So if you want access to the the scoring
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  system, yes you have to be in the AC Patreon. I'm sorry,
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  well, yes you have to be in the AC Patreon. But yes you
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  you have to be in the AC discord. I I have no way of
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  getting it to you other than being in the ac discord. So if you
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  are one of me, if you still messaging me on Patreon waiting for your
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  I don't know what you're waiting for, because it's got to be on the
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  It's got to be in the discord. I'm waiting for the crystal to talk
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  to them, right, Yeah, you got to be in the discord,
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  like, I can't send it to you if you'd be up aatreon, So
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  please join the discord. You can find the link in the description down below.
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  It is an open link. You can join up any time. But
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  there's no way for me to just send it to you and you not be
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  in the discord. It's not it's not possible at the current, at the
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  current iteration of where we sit, that's the only way we have it.
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  UM. Maybe soon there will be other ways, but right now this is
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  it UM, and then we have we have things in the worst. We're
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  not gonna be more specific than that they are happening. Things are happening,
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  but right now you have to be here. So UM. I know there's
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  a few people that that keep messaging me going I'm I don't have discord or
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  whatever the case may be. I have no way other than discord to get
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  it to you. So I apologize if that's an inconvenience, but that's that's
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  just that's what I gots um. And then, and not only that,
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  the answer to do I have to be a patron to get to the scoring
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  system? The answer to that is also yes. So the people on my
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  own team sign up to get it all right, and then, uh,
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  what do we got here? WHOA what was now scannable in the master vault?
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  So get all your wall scanned and make sure you're covering up your QR
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  codes though oh different times I don't. Is that all we're not really covering
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  this day? But so let's talk about the one second. However, though
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  last time I checked, there is currently no way to remove a deck from
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  your master Ball account. I know there will be there, that's the thing,
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  But I believe I am under the impression if you wanted to remove a
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  thing from your Masterball account you will lose a shard for doing that. Yes,
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  that was actually voiced in the last document. Yeah, but to be
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  so, like, I think people I think that's anything going forward. I
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  think it will be as soon as they turn it on. So like if
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  I go you scan all those decks like you didn't get another shard for them.
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  But let's say you sold something even though you had owned it a long
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  time ago or whatever, you got it involved from someone else, it's got
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  the shard for it. If you actually want to move it from your master
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  of ball to account, you would then lose a chart at that point.
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  So if you have decks that you are directly planning on selling, there is
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  a Downlin argument don't scan it at all so we'll see, um, because
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  I like, if you have some decks out there that you just want to
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  sell and no other purpose, there aren't that many people that are terribly active
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  that these days in the selling game. But like if you were planning on
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  that, um, there could be a reason not to just to scan them.
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  As far as I selling's gotten a little hotter since Well came out.
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  That's definitely Happenings are happening. I mean not not not like that. You
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  too, It's not like the good old days, but it is happening regardless.
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  It was one year actually had to like blame uh my like keyboards business.
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  Um oh really yeah, uh I'm not gonna say that number, but
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  yes, I had to claim the number, um and everything. PayPal kept
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  sending me messages you have to make this a business count. You need to
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  give us to x information. I was like, gosh, ding it,
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  leave me alone, PayPal. But yeah, I guess that makes sense if
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  you go over a certain threshold of sales or a certain quantity of independent sales
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  in a duration, that you're going to get an email saying you're gonna have
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  to change your accounts as any different STAPs M. So that's because well,
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  that's because PayPal had some issues with i RS. So that was well known.
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  Yeah, yeah, you know that drug money. Um Wallabo says that
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  eBay has been has seen quite an uptick. Yeah, I yes. I
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  actually a lot of stuff funny Bay lately, so that there is an uptick.
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  I don't know how what percentages me, but there is an uptick.
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  Yeah, I don't know. I was like, oh, eBay, Like
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  I never used to look at eBay for decks because um just never did there
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  you know, it was so easy to find decks, Like eBay was never
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  really a thing. So never really concern myself with it. But if you're
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  looking for but there's plenty of people out there, the stuff does so yeah,
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  all right. This week, it's been quite a slow leak. Um.
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  I think the only thing going on right now is people just complaint right
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  like any time, like the morning, the only time I check the stupid
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  Facebook that like belongs to keyboards, because like half of it is actually interesting,
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  like fans stuff that to follow. The other half is always trash.
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  But I feel like in the last five days that race show is totally out
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  of whack I'm complaining about. I guess I haven't seen much. I haven't
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  really been paying attention either. It's been a busy week for me. I'm
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  surprised our buddy x Ray doesn't have a post up there. He probably does.
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  I might have missed it. But like people that don't have their stuff
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  right they are now starting to get agitated because like, like I've literally played
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  forty games of Wow over the last two days, and it's amazing. It's
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  fun. We post the stuff, we're excited in the chats, and then
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  there's like the other three thousand people in the world that don't have their product
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  right now. Every single day. This is like I don't know if it's
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  a linear increase in getting pissed off by day, like x Rays in the
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  chat, tell us, do you feel like your rage is exponentially or literally
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  increasing every day He's in the United States? Me, I act got a
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  got an email saying that his decks were like on its way? Did he?
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  I thought I saw something in well the chat saying it was from doctor
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  Sheep. No, you missed the entire joke Cookie, I guess, so
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  you read this like the actual he said, this is not a shipping email
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  shipping notice. Yeah I was. I was, but like I actually had
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  this idea that was like I said, extra an email, and then she
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  did it before I could. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie
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  to you there for a few days in our chat this past week, I
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  was just kind of like perusing. So yes, I completely missed effect that
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  that game from David a c chat has actually been like the most like low
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  centric as far as playing in good experiences through this entire like duration. Like
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  I've seen flameouts in ABR. I'm not in the think to whatever, but
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  like I've heard people like talk about stuff that's coming out of there and then
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  the Facebook and read it are not not not friendly right now. So in
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  the recent era, AC is all just about Z scores, plane decks,
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  cracking some heat. It's been great, very off the norm. I guess,
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  well, I mean Tuesday's our normal day. I was unable to join,
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  but Senior Ewak got to play a ton of key for Itage on Tuesday.
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  Yeah, we had quite a few individuals out. It was great to
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  play in person. So we had five that was there, and our buddy
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  Alex wasn't able to make it either, will keep because his daughter's birthday and
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  so family things. But I mean we potentially with you and Ham and our
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  store player wasn't working. That would have bumped us up to eight. So
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  we had visitor coming in from out of town, which was pretty great.
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  But any any new players or anybody interested in key Forge, come on out.
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  You're not You're not gonna name said visitor. I'm not gonna go ahead
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  and throw anyone under the bus. Why why is that throwing them under the
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  bus? What bus are you throwing? At that point, I did not
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  get permission, so I don't want to go ahead. Yeah, and so
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  that was all I don't blast. I mean, everyone was super friendly.
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  It was great to see and great to talk. It's just good to play
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  key fortune person again. And that's what's that's what's really important. Oh my
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  x ray did actually share his his answer to my exponents. It's almost like
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  a high exponentially more pissed every day, and he might sell his collection and
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  go to Magic together. Um so we can't sell his game found because he
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  doesn't have it. Um, oh, just just wait to start those secret
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  layers of those don't show up for months on. Then there you go.
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  You could just try to get that one ring card or whatever right from Yeah,
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  yeah you can. You could open one pack and be a millionaire immediately.
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  Like that's probably be a multi millionaire at this point because it's literally one
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  of one. Yeah, like there and it's Lord of the Rings. Like
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  it's like that's exponentially increasating the value of this thing right now. That's set.
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  A booster box of that set is going for almost four hundred dollars just
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  just a normal booster box, four bills. That's that's crazy. Is it
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  actually released? I don't think goes out yet. It's not out yet,
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  but like because there are no Magic doesn't have you know, MSRPs anymore,
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  they did away with it really because well most so here's how ninety nine point
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  nine percent of games do it right for the first week or how they used
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  to do it, I guess I should say for the first week, they'll
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  sell it at MSRP, right, so they'll sell it at what they should
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  be selling it at. And then after that first week they go to market
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  pricing. So like when the Commander decks all come out, like the first
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  week, they'll sell it for the sixty or fifty or sixty bucks they're supposed
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  to be selling it at. And then always one of the decks comes out
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  to be like the super hot, Like there's always you know, the really
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  good deck and then the really poor deck. So they're really good deck,
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  you know, all of a sudden you'll see them pop up on eBay for
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  like a couple hundred bucks. So obviously, you know, the game stores
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  want a piece of that because I don't want to be selling them at you
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  know, basically a discount. So then now they'll crank them up. This
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  is how it was no walla baoo wallaboo it is. That is the regular
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  the regular ones are at almost four hundred dollars now a couple of weeks ago,
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  yes, it was the collector's boxes, and now what's to the regular
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  boxes? I don't remember what the collector's boxes were going for, but because
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  that thing could be found in anything, right, I think. So I
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  am a big Lord of the Rings fan, so like I've been paying attention
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  and I thought about getting into the set due to it being the Lord of
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  the Rings, but it never really happened for me. So nor do I
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  at these prices. I'm at these prices, I'm like, never mind,
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  I'm out. That's that's that's too crazy to go play with Bilbo. But
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  let's see what we got up next. All right, we're gonna go into
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  these spoilers for the upcoming set, Zee. We need the obligatory spoiler warning.
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  All right, I know there wasn't much prior to this point, but
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  thank you for all for joining us. If you do not want to hear
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  about spoilers about Grimmer Miners, the rest of our episode is going to be
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  about that. Before you leave us, I was mentioned earlier, and if
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  you want to come hang out in Arkhon's Core, come visit us. Interested
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  in z scoring any of your decks, not just for Wow deck, but
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  if you want to see a preliminary type of score for your WHOA. All
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  right, kiddos, this is interesting. My discord just crashed. That was
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  very interesting. So let's get back into my own thing here. My discord
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  just went no, yeah, but I'm back. It was it must have
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  still getting all of our stuff. Yeah, it's getting all of our stuff.
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  But but these said spoilers. So if you don't want spoilers, Astilla
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  Pasta, Jared, what house are we gonna do? Pick a house?
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  Well, we are going in order. Yeah, from the numbers, and
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  I want to hear our good buddy, Yes, Wookie at five h one,
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  this beautiful Mars card because he is all over this name. Go ahead,
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  Wookie, how's this one? Said zell ze Prex. Oh he's a
• 25:08
  doctor too, by the way, it's zloxel frex. Clearly it's xel.
• 25:19
  I mean I do think that your tongue x is in there. I think,
• 25:26
  yeah, there's three it's x x X. No, there's far Yeah,
• 25:34
  there's all right. So we're gonna get into this Mars two power creature
• 25:40
  Scientists Martian after reap, play a Mars creature from your discard pile and readiant
• 25:45
  scientists, Martian. And this is a common card. Oh and we should
• 25:49
  also put out the random like heads up that's all of these spoilers for grim
• 25:55
  Minders. We actually don't know if they're is going to be amber pips.
• 26:00
  Now we picture for creatures there wouldn't normally be, but we actually have no
• 26:03
  idea if there's amber pips in any of these cards, because that's how they
• 26:07
  were all released with nothing. So well, I don't think like I think
• 26:11
  that's their answer doing furnace. They're just gonna stopt, We're gonna make that's
• 26:18
  the best they could come up with. If thats let's go, So no
• 26:26
  pips, I don't think that's it without pips, believe that or not.
• 26:32
  Like I think you can get because like a lot of the times they're like
• 26:34
  at least has a pep, but you know, no pips gives you a
• 26:40
  clear view of what the card is. Well, the good news, the
• 26:45
  good news is boys they listen to us. So let's tell them what where
• 26:49
  pips need to go so they can be added on doctor what ever made seven?
• 26:53
  Everything needs a native draw pipy. So what I actually do want to
• 27:02
  see native pips that are not amber like we all know enhanced have a little
• 27:07
  lightning thing. I want to see native drawl, native capture, native damage,
• 27:12
  native discard thing, whatever the hell that Pips called, like the Purple
• 27:17
  one, the new one. I would love to see native Pips on cards
• 27:21
  that are not just raw amber, like yes, of course, hey,
• 27:23
  maybe that's the answer. Just stop printing raw amber, just print drawl,
• 27:27
  like, let's go in that. I mean, I think that would be
• 27:33
  fun. I mean not if there was actually no roll amber. That would
• 27:37
  suck, but I think it could be a fun design space that I would
• 27:41
  like to see a sport. All right, well, doctor ax, what
• 27:45
  do we think about him? He's squashy if I mean, there were a
• 27:49
  ton of creatures similar to this in CODA, and we know they didn't work,
• 27:53
  They kind of sucked, and they actually all had elusive. This doesn't
• 27:56
  have elusive. So unless we are seeing at least three two to three cards
• 28:03
  and said that ready, this thing like, you would need at least another
• 28:07
  common and uncommon and maybe a rare for this to actually matter. There's way
• 28:14
  too much damage in the game now. Because of damage, pips Woe is
• 28:18
  filled with creature control that kills twos, which is ironic because like tons of
• 28:22
  tokens are twos and ones. But yeah, there's a ton of creature control
• 28:27
  coming out of MM coming out of Woe. There's not that much in the
• 28:33
  older sets from what's normally in the meta, but I expect that they're all
• 28:36
  going to have to change to just deal with Woe anyway. So I think
• 28:41
  this is a really bad time for this kind of stuff to come into the
• 28:44
  game unless we're seeing at least three other cards in this house that ready him.
• 28:52
  If not, he's just never gonna get used, like which level,
• 28:55
  never gonna see happen. Yeah, I mean, I suspect he'll be a
• 29:00
  bit like John Smith, where you'll get the right combo and it'll be awesome,
• 29:03
  or you won't get the right combo and he'll be a mediocre. You
• 29:07
  mean, you'll get the right combo and it'll happen once and that he'll be
• 29:11
  and then he'll be dead. So it was it was a kind of a
• 29:15
  waste of a turn. But even John Smith had elusive like this. This
• 29:19
  is not great, Like I'm not like seeing like worse iterations of previous cards,
• 29:25
  Like we talked about that a lot back when Dark Tidy's actually like started
• 29:27
  to be played. Um, I know we were all hopeful previously before it
• 29:32
  was released or whatever, but like once we started playing these these or effects
• 29:37
  like why am I playing cards are just worse than their original version, Like
• 29:40
  that's that's ultimately what happened, and it was awful and this is just not
• 29:44
  an oor thing. This is this is basically blippit oolig or john Smith but
• 29:49
  worse like that is what this is. Except for blip it it is imperial
• 29:53
  better than yeah, it's better than yeah, Right, I guess there's a
• 30:00
  world in which there's some real good Mars cards that built in recursion in house
• 30:07
  uh out of your discard pile could be useful. So so there's there's plausibility
• 30:14
  here, but we that's maybe I'm may we'll be reaching, there are reaching,
• 30:21
  okay, Like this would be a good play effect creature, right,
• 30:25
  yes, like even if that wasn't play reap, if it was just play
• 30:30
  like, that's fine, Like it's good actually yeah, like yeah, but
• 30:36
  even you're not talking about like a yeah, because it's exclusive to just Mars.
• 30:41
  Like even at that, I don't think it's game breaking. Is not
• 30:44
  good as Eddie you're infurnce menything like that. It's probably about the same range
• 30:48
  as like a dust pixie, Like it would just be good duties have PEPs
• 30:53
  though. Yeah, yeah, you guys two bodies on the board with one
• 31:00
  reap, assuming you get to reap. But even then, if you play
• 31:03
  it early, there's nothing in there, right, Um, I don't know.
• 31:07
  I think that is where this sat with the idea for scrapping in One
• 31:14
  Haunted, where you want to have cards in your discard pile. This kind
• 31:18
  of goes a bit against it. Um. I just I like the idea,
• 31:22
  but I think it's going to be limited in that if you get it
• 31:26
  early game, it's not helping you at all. And and it's it's very
• 31:30
  very squishy. So yeah, it's just just on my zero to six scale,
• 31:36
  it would be a two that high. It might it's a one or
• 31:40
  two. Okay, that's a one. And I think what we want to
• 31:44
  look at again is the common cards would entirely depend on whether there's other cards
• 31:49
  in the house they get ready. If there's only one single guard, even
• 31:53
  if it's a common, this is a one. Um. So, and
• 32:00
  again we want to have powerful cards in that common slot so we see them
• 32:02
  more often, and that's how we can go ahead and continue to push the
• 32:07
  next future sets. Well, talking about common cards, we've got Blunderbore.
• 32:13
  He is a six power giant creature from Brobner. After fight, Oh,
• 32:17
  by the way, we in all the houses for the next set. I
• 32:20
  don't know if we knew all that before, but we know all the houses
• 32:22
  for the next set. But after fight, if you are haunted, your
• 32:25
  opponent loses too. So if you're haunted, crushed two. It is important.
• 32:30
  Like some of these say your opponents, um maybe one or something like
• 32:36
  that somewhere, So yeah, this is if you're haunted. So if you
• 32:39
  have ten or more cards in your discord file at that moment, your opponent
• 32:44
  loses two. I'm not a fan of this. This this actual mechanic because
• 32:49
  of like, um, I don't know what it's called meta reasons, Like,
• 32:55
  so now we have to know how many cards in our discard file and
• 33:00
  our opponents discard file at all times. Like have any of you play with
• 33:04
  no name in real life? Not on no barely? Like that card is
• 33:13
  actually really annoying in real life because it gets power bonuses equal to the number
• 33:19
  of purged cards in the game, which is normally a number you don't need.
• 33:24
  So like that's a separate number that you kind of have to know ish
• 33:30
  all the time. This creates this. This is a mechanic. Insets creates
• 33:35
  two numbers. Your opponents discard and your discard. You kind of have to
• 33:39
  know all the time. Um, which is really weird. That is another
• 33:46
  level of play. Do you think the thirty seventh card will be haunted?
• 33:55
  Not haunted? Oh Lord, stop it. I no, I don't.
• 34:00
  I don't think so, and I guess for me. On the opposite side,
• 34:04
  I have a deck with the Grim Reaper which does use the haunted.
• 34:07
  So that's one of those old anomaly cards from World's collide Um. I don't
• 34:13
  have a problem there because it is easier to tell you basically hit a threshold.
• 34:19
  Um, do you hit it? You're kind of there until they flip
• 34:22
  their neck over. I mean, I know there's some recursion in the set.
• 34:24
  Yeah, for the most For the most part, Um, no name
• 34:28
  is a little bit more of a pain because of the adding of tokens.
• 34:31
  So I can see, well, no, you're not adding tokens, but
• 34:36
  you are thinking. You have to be able to manually in your head kind
• 34:40
  of keep up. That's well, you can use anything now, but you're
• 34:45
  not supposed to. So I like to use pieces of potato. You are
• 34:49
  not supposed to put or anything on no name if you're playing at a core
• 34:52
  correct to be very culiar. Anyone that is listening to us called on you
• 34:57
  don't know that yet I do. That is that is the assumption you are
• 35:00
  making from a previous rule. I'm not making an assumption. If you put
• 35:05
  anything un no name to show its power, that is definitely a note.
• 35:08
  Yeah, we we and and but I thought I was taken away that.
• 35:13
  No, there's not no note taking. Anyone that's set you can take notes
• 35:16
  now. That is I've not seen this anything like that. Well, but
• 35:22
  there there was no ruling on note taking. It was one of the things
• 35:27
  that we came up with when we were going over the rerule, the reintroduction
• 35:30
  of the rules, that there is no ruling on it, that we don't
• 35:37
  have the floor rules, that we have no printed floor rules for it.
• 35:39
  Right but as of right now, you could put a dioce on him to
• 35:44
  keep track of it if you so desired, because there's no ruling against it.
• 35:47
  It's old school that you wouldn't be able to use it, but there's
• 35:51
  nowhere saying you can't right now. I would not recommend anyone's right, come
• 35:58
  at me, bro, But anyways, of confusion. So this is the
• 36:01
  first time, yeah it is the fish house. Um, this is the
• 36:06
  first time we are seeing the treachery keyword printed on things. Actually, I
• 36:09
  think some of the things in Woe have the trip they have the treachery keyword.
• 36:15
  They didn't replace it with because I don't think anything comes. It's not
• 36:17
  on talent scale as far as I know, it's not. You get treachery.
• 36:23
  So this card is going to enter under your opponent's control. See here's
• 36:27
  not where key Forge Commander becomes a real big thing, because you could choose
• 36:30
  an opponent. But anyways, at the end of your turn exhausts each friendly
• 36:35
  creature of the active house, and it's an artifact too big, big big.
• 36:40
  It is a rare though all the curses I believe are rare. But
• 36:46
  that could be pretty potent. I mean sure, I mean it's exactly right,
• 36:54
  like most of the time you're not calling the same house neck turn right,
• 36:59
  like a good junk of the game at least, So it could be
• 37:04
  a counter Woe card, right because to do that. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:09
  so so this the strength of this might depend on how prevalent Woe is and
• 37:17
  it's good. It's good against like Dino stomp World's Clode, which we don't
• 37:22
  see that a lot would start. Yeah yeah, um m, him just
• 37:28
  floods creatures of all houses. So it's not a thing there. Um,
• 37:32
  But yes, I think it could be good against what I expect a lot
• 37:37
  of the future Woe meant it to be because like a lot of the ducks
• 37:39
  that I've seen that are firing the greatest on Woe, or like the ones
• 37:43
  that have that recursive make token card, they just literally stay in that house
• 37:47
  the whole game. It just keep flooding with tokens because they're making it from
• 37:52
  their archive. Um. So that would stop that because they would have to
• 37:55
  move houses to get their tokens to refresh. So I think they're fun.
• 38:01
  I don't think this one's that great, but it is a fun I think
• 38:06
  it's fine. I do think it can't have some impact. Um I see,
• 38:09
  I think you know, watching you and Nova had celebration, you guys
• 38:16
  went back into houses a little more than I think you think. Well,
• 38:22
  I had redacted that is, and she was trying to lock me out in
• 38:27
  a very specific house, and in neither of those cases would our readers being
• 38:30
  exhausted have mattered, We still would have done it would have It would have
• 38:36
  made the gameplay slower for sure, Yes, it would have been slower.
• 38:39
  We would have gained amber less, but she would have been trying to lock
• 38:43
  me out with an archive lock and I would have still been trying affoord done
• 38:45
  for deck. So like, yeah, I mean there are some decks out
• 38:51
  there, even you know, top level decks, that there are times where
• 38:54
  they want you know, and it happens more often than you think. You
• 38:58
  want to go back into a house. Actually, I just thought of something
• 39:00
  like, we don't know the rest of the cars, but there were some
• 39:04
  fantastic fish cards printed in Woe that would commo perfectly with this type of thing.
• 39:09
  If there are like illusions of grandeur the Fuddle visions, just that knowledge
• 39:16
  makes that like a combo with this. So if we do get some of
• 39:21
  the better control cards coming from the Fish curse is immediately better because you can
• 39:25
  kind of like force them. It's like fine, if you want to keep
• 39:28
  switching houses, you're not gonna play cards like you stay tapped down with your
• 39:32
  your board or not play cards like with the Fuddle. Um, so there
• 39:36
  are some fun control combos with this, for sure. Yeah, so moo
• 39:40
  and I why are we talking about this more? I like it. You
• 39:44
  know, in Sealed you can more often relied on just having a big board.
• 39:49
  Actually yeah, this this helps there a lot. Yeah, too bad
• 39:52
  there's no more sealed. Oh yeah wow for the casuals is sorry my question
• 40:02
  I have it happened officially? Yeah? I think they did. They're like
• 40:10
  draftcar, you're now cash get it, go to the cash quarter. So
• 40:19
  my question is would you rather have cursive confusion or old the oof belt device
• 40:28
  can't say the name in the cards? Yeah, curse of confusion, rightof
• 40:31
  belt device impacts yourself also yeah, correct, So it's it's artifacts. You
• 40:36
  have a printed number on it item. Each player cannot choose the same active
• 40:39
  house they chose on their previous turn from Starlines. This is more, I
• 40:45
  mean, because you can stop only in dark Tidings. Plus you're playing Dark
• 40:51
  Tidies. Yeah, there's no way I want that one. But regardless,
• 40:55
  I mean, you're going to this is a one sided uf Bert and you
• 41:00
  still can go back into the house. I mean it gets like, as
• 41:02
  you said, if you're what you're attempting to dude, doesn't rely on the
• 41:06
  creatures on the board. It kind of becomes a this becomes a dud.
• 41:10
  No, it's both in dark Tidings and winds of Exchange. Yes, that's
• 41:17
  actually really bad in a wow, Yeah, yeah it is unless you're unless
• 41:22
  you're out of housemaking tokens. And that's Star Alliance is Star Alliance. Yes,
• 41:28
  Star Alliance got so many cards that sucked for it. In Woe,
• 41:32
  they've got like ridd alerts, hold the line whose solid sets. They literally
• 41:38
  have the worst recurring archive card. It's like, make a token and then
• 41:44
  if you have less creatures that your opponent, Yeah, I have it,
• 41:47
  which means I'm never archiving this card unless I'm playing against another who deck and
• 41:52
  I'm losing because if I'm down on board, I'm losing the game. Like
• 41:57
  that's what I do. Um Style Acience was fantastic and World's Collide and m
• 42:04
  m they had their time in the sun. They're pretty good in Emma.
• 42:07
  Oh they're pretty good. Yeah, they're great. Makes it that that I
• 42:13
  agree with. I think what's interesting here is we've seen cards kind of get
• 42:19
  updated for future sets, and that's almost what Curse of Confusion seems to be
• 42:23
  to me is here is your modified version of roof both device. Yeah,
• 42:29
  but no was modified up like the correct No. I think they didn't.
• 42:32
  People obviously did not do doctor Zillow. I agree, z Lazal Frex as
• 42:39
  curse of confute. All right, let's move in a Curse of Cowardice,
• 42:45
  another treachery card, another curse. At the end of your turn, if
• 42:52
  you did not fight with any creatures this turn, you lose two member.
• 42:57
  So if you're Code, you just lose to him every turn. Like it's
• 43:01
  just like I'm going to lose to Amber every turn for the rest of the
• 43:07
  game because Toda doesn't play that way. Yeah. Um so, yeah,
• 43:14
  that card's amazing. All right, it's gonna it's gonna have a number PIP
• 43:19
  two. I guarantee all the curses are gonna have pips. Oh, that
• 43:22
  is important to know. We are not talking about Amber pips because we don't
• 43:27
  know if they have to now. Yeah, I'm a big fan, especially
• 43:30
  in a set not we don't know again what's coming back in Grim Reminders,
• 43:35
  but it's it's strange because it's a card in House that does what the house
• 43:44
  wants, that helps the House achieve its goal. You don't see that a
• 43:49
  ton, yes, and I don't see that or specifically, although in Woe
• 43:57
  you see it a lot. Yeah, whoa chase and there have a lot
• 44:00
  of fun playing brob Nord Woe like they so much fun. We have another
• 44:07
  curse. We have another curse. It's the Coast of obstin Obstinacity, Thank
• 44:13
  you, curse curse Curse Coast Coast though again trat tree. So it's gonna
• 44:22
  entern your opponent's side at the end of your turn. Stunt. Each friendly
• 44:28
  non flying creature that shares a house with one of its neighbors. These do
• 44:34
  see mighty uh anti woe, don't they? Yeah, this this one will
• 44:39
  affect weall a lot. Act but again it's rare. So how often are
• 44:44
  we going to see this curse? Well, all of them got a curse,
• 44:46
  right, so like so you'll actually see a curse fairly often. Index
• 44:55
  Um, you're not like the rare. How often you'll see it? In
• 45:00
  need one deck guy specific cars, it's the same as any other rare.
• 45:02
  But because they all have a curse, you will actually see a lot of
• 45:07
  decks with it. It's gonna say, did we see all the curses but
• 45:09
  we did not we want to saw those three No, I think they're at
• 45:14
  this end of the numerica or whatever they got the five oh three to five
• 45:17
  five. I don't know where do we get the numbers from? How did
• 45:21
  they figure out them? These are just arbitrary. I think, Okay,
• 45:25
  they're not numbers on these cards. So I would say all the cards have
• 45:29
  question marks, so where do they figure out? Like you know a lot
• 45:31
  of them. I think this is just literally as our connar Cana had them
• 45:36
  reported to. Oh, they're they're almost alphabetical. Are alphabetics? Not quite?
• 45:42
  Is there one that's not alphabetical? Yeah? The first doctor would be
• 45:47
  yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say everything after that has become alphabetical.
• 45:55
  Curse. Yeah, well you put the doctor first. Straight, Yeah,
• 46:00
  you put the doctor first, or at least I would just to make
• 46:05
  it easy. But this is one of my decks. It would not have
• 46:08
  been in that right that's card. It hurts well, um, it hurts
• 46:15
  them madam a little bit. It doesn't do anything to like AOA or coda
• 46:22
  or from what I mean, probably doesn't do much to other grim reminders text.
• 46:29
  And if you know you're playing against it, you can kind of avoid
• 46:32
  to a degree, you can plan for this. You'd plan for it just
• 46:36
  like you'd planned for Think tank is yeah, I guess the think tanks.
• 46:43
  Yeah, think tanks. Yeah, Granby Legal is the opposite you want them
• 46:47
  to be? Next? Yeah, all right, more fish because we love
• 46:52
  fish drudge. This is the first uh first actual action card play for the
• 46:59
  remainder of turns. Each creature you control games reap or after reap, return
• 47:05
  a card from your desk card pile to the top of your deck. So
• 47:10
  I guess you get that time when you play this based on how many cards
• 47:15
  you want to return to the top of your deck. So it doesn't super
• 47:20
  matter that it's it doesn't say may um, and I think this is really
• 47:23
  good if you're repeat with like a bunch right yeah, or if you want
• 47:29
  that your hand like what like if I know I'm gonna have two left of
• 47:35
  like Brobinar and I'm gonna reap with three fish, I'm and I'm gonna draw
• 47:40
  three cards, be like I'm gonna about to I'm gonna reap these three but
• 47:43
  these three robin Oar cards, I'm back on top of my deck and now
• 47:45
  I have five robin Are you like you are directly controlling your next hand.
• 47:51
  Um, kind of in a way we haven't really seen before. Pretty good.
• 47:59
  I'm interested in m I think this card is really going to directly be
• 48:04
  directly impacted by the quality of cards in set, because if I just reap
• 48:09
  and I'm just taking. I mean, you know, you can play five
• 48:13
  cards. This is very true. Recursion does not matter if your cards suck.
• 48:15
  Yeah, if you play five cards but they're all junk, Like,
• 48:19
  what did you do? Like, did we really intensify game state? I
• 48:23
  mean, I guess if it's three creatures, body on board, it's body
• 48:27
  on board doesn't matter. You know, it'll probably reap for one at some
• 48:30
  point. Maybe it's gonna be just like yeah, just like mimicry way better
• 48:37
  in ARCon. Still good and sealed, but way better in ARCon. Oh
• 48:40
  yeah, yeah, this is probably not a great seal. You probably play
• 48:45
  it as your last part of your turn, hoping it has a pip on
• 48:49
  it. It doesn't have a pip. It does kind of suck. I
• 48:52
  probably won't have a I don't think it's gonna have a pep. If this
• 48:55
  is card does not have a pip, it is a two at best.
• 49:00
  Yeah, maybe really. I mean it's super dependent on what's what's in your
• 49:07
  deck. Yeah, it's a very solid three with a PIP that one you're
• 49:15
  looking at something like storm surge or the one that taps all your opponents creatures
• 49:19
  down or whatever. Yeah, I mean like you're looking at a DT card
• 49:22
  if this thing does not have a PIP D card. I don't know about
• 49:25
  a DT can you can you can reset up a combo. You can lay,
• 49:31
  you know if you have creatures to reap correct, but you can you
• 49:36
  can lay. Yeah, that's that's gonna be the big thing. That's what
• 49:38
  I'm saying. Most of the time, you're going to get this card,
• 49:40
  you're gonna play it for a PIP because you don't have thing things with anyway.
• 49:44
  Yeah, that's fair. Like, if it doesn't have a PIP,
• 49:47
  this is a chain in your deck. Quite off. Fair enough, Let's
• 49:52
  go to obscenity or confusion on you. Yeah. So yeah, let's go
• 50:00
  plays good keyboard against you. Yeah. What do you guys think about this
• 50:04
  idea? Duma the return he's not a martyr anymore or she because it died
• 50:08
  in the story. I don't read the story, but someone said that,
• 50:12
  yes, m Duma, which is pretty did you what did you think was
• 50:16
  going to happen? Um? So this is the first time we see this
• 50:24
  treatment on the card with the wisps of smoke your ghost or spectral stuff.
• 50:32
  Um. I like the idea and I like the flavor it brings. But
• 50:37
  great, um three power uh specter in Brabner. Now, Duma the martyr
• 50:45
  was in Sanctum I believe originally right, Yeah, we've seen her in three
• 50:51
  houses. Oh is this she can be in any house? We assume,
• 50:58
  I would say Duma can be an any house. I've only seen the brob
• 51:00
  in our one. We are believing at the moment, according to the AC
• 51:06
  stuff, in a number of houses she's been reported in. Oh, someone
• 51:09
  in our chat just says she's been seen in all seven. Basically, we're
• 51:13
  assuming this is a dav treatment, probably tagged as a rayer that can show
• 51:17
  up in any house. It is a special special rarity, I believe.
• 51:22
  Yeah, like that. Let me get it bigger it is. I think
• 51:25
  it's it's got the circle in it. Yeah, you just have r over
• 51:29
  it on our con um So I guess yeah, I can pop into any
• 51:35
  house. Okay, but if you are haunted you may play Duma the return
• 51:38
  from your discard pile. That seems good, Return the top three cards of
• 51:44
  your discard pile to your hand. I'm sorry. When destroyed, return the
• 51:49
  top three cards of your discard pile to your hand. All right, what's
• 51:53
  important here though, Like you can can tindue you to play it on your
• 52:00
  turn. So like I start my turn dumas alive, I kill Duma I
• 52:07
  before she goes there, return three cards. If there is at that moment
• 52:13
  still ten cards in my discard pile, I can play her from my discard
• 52:16
  pile back to my field, and then if I have a way to kill
• 52:20
  her again, I just do it again. Yeah, that's interesting. Like
• 52:25
  you can play Duma multiple times in the same turn near the end of your
• 52:30
  cycle, as long as you have a way to keep killing her. So
• 52:35
  what's weird what you I like the card right, because I get the idea
• 52:38
  of like kill play kill play. I mean, this can happen multiple times
• 52:43
  too, as long as you have it does go from rule of six because
• 52:46
  it does say the word play you're just not playing it from your hand still
• 52:51
  play play effect, So you if you do somehow play her six times,
• 52:54
  you could not do it a sixth time. Well, because seventh thing,
• 52:59
  if you have a way to kill it, and it's like direct damage in
• 53:01
  hand, you can play play play or I guess you're gonna have to have
• 53:07
  two direct damage cards because technically you could play Duma, kill Duma, get
• 53:15
  the card that killed. Oh you had to like, well, there's not
• 53:19
  gonna be stratosmac in this, because that's a whatever. But like, let's
• 53:23
  say you have lava ball, right and some other thing that punch if they
• 53:29
  brought punch back or just two punches like you punch Duma. It goes there.
• 53:34
  Like you would basically do this repetitively all the way up until you're not
• 53:38
  haunted. Right, So if it was near the end of your cycle,
• 53:42
  you're gonna draw, you can have the rest of your deck in your hand,
• 53:46
  plus you're gonna play all your Brabner, meaning that it's quite well,
• 53:50
  actually it's not, because you're gonna be bringing those cards back until you're not
• 53:52
  haunted. I was gonna say you might be able to even flip your deck
• 53:55
  at some point if played properly to that of your drawing from your discard.
• 54:02
  Well, I mean if yeah, because you wouldn't need to. More than
• 54:06
  likely, if you've done it that many times, you're not gonna need to
• 54:07
  draw, so you're not gonna flip your neck, so oh you will not
• 54:09
  get draw get that kind of thing. But I think there are definitely scenarios
• 54:15
  where you do play her six times in a turn um and just go to
• 54:20
  town after that. It's I think she's really fun um again, like what
• 54:25
  he said, though, if you're not drawing great cards, it doesn't matter.
• 54:30
  Um. She is a very very flavable card and I'm excited to see
• 54:34
  her. Yeah, and it pops in any house, So I Dad,
• 54:38
  I didn't know, because, like I said, all the ones, I'd
• 54:40
  be interested if you can get too, can you get like a fish one?
• 54:44
  And as to our Alliance one and a Robin one? I think really
• 54:49
  really silly If that is the case. I'm wondering how many other cards are
• 54:52
  going to be like this, because I do like the idea of like how
• 54:57
  a card not being lied in a decent card not being locked to a house.
• 55:00
  I mean, we had it in dav but back then we only got
• 55:04
  once. We might only get one here, right, But like what other
• 55:07
  cards are is it possible they do this with where it's like you can have
• 55:10
  Dooma in any house, dav you can have seen any leaders. So we
• 55:14
  get like, uh, Captain the Fallen like for Captain Jericho or something.
• 55:19
  I don't know if I don't Again, I have not read the story,
• 55:22
  so I don't know what other characters have with Captain bel Jericho was just like
• 55:28
  the most memorable name, right, But it's nice to not have it locked
• 55:32
  to a house, meaning you can get it in any house and it and
• 55:37
  it's good for any house and playable in any house. And you know,
• 55:44
  I'm curious. And furthermore, like with the new scrap feature, like the
• 55:47
  not scrap but like um the purple icon, yes, scrap, like you
• 55:52
  could go into scrap is a different thing. Is it called scrap? The
• 55:55
  scrap. Scrap is the effects on cards when you discard them. It does
• 55:59
  that right the purple I think it's literally just called a discarded. Well,
• 56:05
  you could play an enhancement with the discard in one house, discard her who's
• 56:08
  in another house into a discard pile that makes it haunted, and then player
• 56:15
  like a face shift into her. It's possible. Yeah, with all those
• 56:20
  little purple pips, like it's pretty cool. Lots of opportunity with DUMO.
• 56:25
  Yeah, I'm actually really, really, really kind of excited for this whole
• 56:31
  idea. So well, my name is actually greater now that I've talked about
• 56:36
  all this, dum of the Return. It is probably one of the more
• 56:37
  clever names I've seen because of all of the things, from the story to
• 56:43
  what it's actually doing. Let's move into our first ghost card, because I'm
• 56:49
  just going to call them the ghost House because that's what they are. Guys,
• 56:52
  whatever, I go fly. This is a two power specter robot action.
• 57:00
  Oh I'm sorry, it also has an armor. I almost missed that
• 57:02
  um action return an action card from your discard pile to your hand. Scrap.
• 57:10
  Here's a scrap effect. I'm scrap archive the topmost action card from your
• 57:16
  discard pile. Scrap of xt resolve when the card is discarded from your hand.
• 57:23
  So remember when we were like joking about ZIX being the only card where
• 57:27
  discard pile matters. We just talked about two separate cards discards like a lot.
• 57:35
  So that's something a lot of us are gonna get used to because I
• 57:37
  know, if I'm not playing away my opponents, I'm playing away neither of
• 57:42
  us given f what happens to our discard pile? Right, I'm like definitely.
• 57:46
  When I'm playing with my local casual, sometimes will be like can I
• 57:51
  get discard pile. They'll go in, they'll order, they'll my house and
• 57:53
  look at the cards and stuff. And every time they do, like the
• 57:58
  memory jet chet, you're the control of the Week and all that stuff,
• 58:01
  like yeah, that's the thing now, like you have to pay atten both
• 58:07
  of these cards. Your discard orderer matters one, so both of those cards
• 58:13
  also read may get game state loss. That's what I'm here. I don't
• 58:21
  know how they're going to resolve, but that, but that is going to
• 58:22
  be a real thing. Like if I you're control the Week player from CODA,
• 58:27
  I hand you my discard pile, you hand it back to me,
• 58:30
  and it's just not the same order, And all I remember is that,
• 58:32
  like I knew that these were the next two Who gets like that is going
• 58:37
  to be a serious penalty on somebody, like right, like, well,
• 58:43
  I have the other way of recreating what my discard pile was, Like you're
• 58:46
  the one that afted up. Fuck because the other and it's and it's I
• 58:51
  hadn't you know, but like, both players are responsible for game state.
• 58:55
  Yeah, but in that case it ends up only being on one. If
• 58:58
  they took it and then followed with it and handed it back to you,
• 59:01
  you have no way of addressing it. That's entirely right. But the problem
• 59:05
  is the rule as it sits right now, both players are responsible for game
• 59:08
  state, even though literally out of your hands, you are also responsible for
• 59:15
  it. You are, you call the judge, and they're the ones that
• 59:17
  will get penalized because you address them immediately. Hopefully we'll see how I mean,
• 59:22
  I'm assuming that's the way it's gonna get ruled. But yeah, this
• 59:24
  is and because the other problem is if you come over and you go,
• 59:30
  did you did you mess around? Did you change his just card pile order?
• 59:34
  And I got no? How do you prove it? Oh? I
• 59:42
  mean see, it becomes a little tricky. Yeah, I mean, I'm
• 59:50
  not worried about that. I'm I'm worried about people accidentally doing it because we've
• 59:53
  all gotten into that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like
• 59:59
  I meant five round one, first round of live, someone was like it
• 1:00:06
  was turned two or something. They knocked their entire deck, discard pile,
• 1:00:10
  everything off the table and in the end it was like unresolvable as far as
• 1:00:16
  like what was where and all kinds of stuff, and like that that person
• 1:00:21
  took a loss. This is just the discard pile we're talking about. But
• 1:00:24
  if we're like we've only seen two cards out of the spoilers that we have
• 1:00:28
  right now and it doesn't matter, like I don't know what that is,
• 1:00:32
  Like, that is something that ggds to think about and discuss with whoever's going
• 1:00:37
  to be running Judge Crews stuff or grim reminders prior to the actual event and
• 1:00:43
  announced how that's going to be dealt with, Like that's going to be up
• 1:00:47
  there on the level of issues as far as like overdrawing, because overdrawing was
• 1:00:52
  a big deal forever still is, But that will be on that level of
• 1:00:57
  like WTF moments because it is going to happen. There's no stopping it from
• 1:01:04
  happening. What are you going to do when this happens? Overdrives not a
• 1:01:07
  big deal because TCO handles it form and it just drives me into the correct
• 1:01:10
  amount, perfect will Okay, Um, all right? So but the card
• 1:01:19
  itself, UM, I think it has more in the scrap value than it
• 1:01:24
  does in the action value. Yeah, I think most of the time I
• 1:01:29
  would be looking to scrap this. UM two one is not just the two
• 1:01:32
  UM one armor does actually matter quite often um and but yeah, most of
• 1:01:38
  the time I would be looking just to scrap this and move on because like
• 1:01:40
  actions are normally what you want, especially in your archive. Um and that's
• 1:01:45
  what it does. Archives the top action in your and then they burden the
• 1:01:51
  hand versus one in the bush, right, Like, there's literally a chance
• 1:01:54
  on my own turn I would actually discard this. You would oh yeah,
• 1:02:00
  use the purple pip to discard it, and then that's just golden. But
• 1:02:05
  like based on the game state, like there's the chance I just scard it
• 1:02:08
  for that, Yeah, I think so. I mean, don't get me
• 1:02:13
  wrong, I like the action. I like to be able to return an
• 1:02:15
  action scart pile out to your hand depending on where the ghost House ends up
• 1:02:19
  with actions and if there's some good ones that I might want to play that
• 1:02:22
  turn, you know it. And what's even crazier is it's got a reasonable
• 1:02:25
  chance of survivability. Like, yeah, it kind of doeskin. Once you
• 1:02:31
  hit that, we did the metric along once you hit three, there is
• 1:02:36
  a much much higher chance you get to use it. So they kind of
• 1:02:38
  put it there because if this was just a two, no armor, this
• 1:02:43
  this literally is just a scrap card, yep. But big three, now
• 1:02:49
  you got big decisions. So kind of I kind of like that that.
• 1:02:53
  Finally somebody I don't know if GG did that or somebody was like, hey,
• 1:02:59
  we've recognized this, so let's make it a three, just to give
• 1:03:00
  them big choices. Not on doctors the loft he is if he had a
• 1:03:07
  scrap value, he is getting scrapped almost every time. Oh yeah, he
• 1:03:10
  should have scrap because he's scraped. Okay, all right. Forbidden Tone.
• 1:03:17
  This is an equedon card. First enhancement card we've seen thus far. Um.
• 1:03:24
  It will enhance cards with one draw and two discard pips. Each haunted
• 1:03:30
  player refills their hand to one additional card during their draw cards step. It's
• 1:03:37
  like a better howling pits, I guess, is it? Yes? Because
• 1:03:44
  because at some point should be able to become haunted more frequently than opposing decks.
• 1:03:52
  And it has these three pips on it, so it already has two
• 1:03:55
  more pips than a howling pit. Um. Sure, but if something there
• 1:04:00
  are going to be times where you are not haunted and your opponent is haunted.
• 1:04:02
  It's not one sided. Yeah, But what basically what I'm saying though,
• 1:04:09
  is I think the goal of the grim and Render's deck is to basically
• 1:04:15
  stay haunted all the time, Like, get there faster. I mean,
• 1:04:19
  there's a ton of recursion already that we've seen. Well, like we've already
• 1:04:24
  saw a recursion from your discard. So like what I'm saying is I think
• 1:04:29
  what I'm seeing is they're trying to get to a certain discard and then they
• 1:04:32
  give you a lot of recursi effects from your discard to stay there versus going
• 1:04:38
  through your deck in the end, So you consider not even flipping yeah,
• 1:04:42
  right, potentially because hopefully there's a lot of recursion and you're just always playing
• 1:04:45
  from your discard pile like Dredge. That's what that's doing, right, Like
• 1:04:49
  you're maintaining a certain number of cards in your discard pile versus moving through it
• 1:04:56
  to cycle. So basically you're trying to cycle your deck without actually turning it
• 1:05:00
  over, right, Yeah, remaining in furnace will be good again, yes,
• 1:05:06
  yes, And you know, and you know what the kicker of all
• 1:05:11
  that is is that in furnace can on your opponent's turn, affect your ability
• 1:05:15
  to be haunted. Oh for sure. Yeah, so the furnace can make
• 1:05:18
  it where you're never haunted again. Ban in Furnace. Just let's get rid
• 1:05:23
  of the card and call it a day. King King Furnace has something to
• 1:05:27
  say that injustice would the injustice that that's too much to protect. I don't
• 1:05:38
  mind it furnace really, but like they definitely do need to put counter cards
• 1:05:41
  and play it like part of the forest. I was famous for hating the
• 1:05:45
  card. It was completely annihilated in any real meta by reclaim by nature.
• 1:05:50
  Like we need we do need something like that for in furnace. Yeah,
• 1:05:57
  it's called in furnace. Ah, get a number for every pers card per
• 1:06:09
  I don't know, or or an artifact every you know, every time a
• 1:06:13
  card is purged you get and just just just a common key cheat. Yeah,
• 1:06:18
  play forge your key reduced the key costs by one per purse card in
• 1:06:25
  game. You purch six of my cards free key, and then that card
• 1:06:29
  will immediately be purged by it in furnace. Well no, then you scrap
• 1:06:33
  your echo fly Oh I like that he's scraped, Go get it back I
• 1:06:39
  like it. I like it, um, But let's go into another ghost
• 1:06:45
  card in Here Somewhere action card from ghosts Play. If you are haunted,
• 1:06:50
  archived two cards from your discard pile. Otherwise discard the top five cards of
• 1:06:55
  your deck. This is one of those get their cards or he is talking
• 1:07:00
  about. So, I mean, I like the archive ability, don't really
• 1:07:05
  so much like to just peel off five. But I guess if if there's
• 1:07:11
  this amount of recursion from my discard pile, maybe I don't care so much.
• 1:07:17
  Yeah, it wants it helps with the early game issue that you're just
• 1:07:23
  like one of those cards. If in Furnace did not exist, it's fantastic,
• 1:07:27
  but it does. Yeah, it's so like I feel like this depends
• 1:07:31
  so much on the rest of the set. Like I hate playing Wild Wormhole
• 1:07:36
  because like I want certain cards and I'm petrified in Furnace, Like, like
• 1:07:41
  this stuff terrifies me. Hm. I don't know if something in set can
• 1:07:50
  hard counter in Furnace to the point where I don't see it every other game.
• 1:07:54
  Sure card gets a lot better, is it first? Still want to
• 1:07:57
  I don't know if anybody did it for I know we did it for Live,
• 1:08:00
  but I don't remember if anybody did it for a celebration where remember how
• 1:08:04
  there you'd be like the most card played was X card. Did they do
• 1:08:09
  that for celebration? I guess it really doesn't matter. Well because we don't
• 1:08:13
  know. I don't know the top or eight or something. I don't think
• 1:08:17
  we know. Yeah, I don't. I don't remember if they did.
• 1:08:20
  I don't recall. I mean, I know in Furnace is still around and
• 1:08:24
  he is still a very frustrating card. But I know I played eight games,
• 1:08:33
  eight different people I played only like three of them did not have in
• 1:08:39
  Furnace. One was Dan on like top End Donovan Coda. I would say
• 1:08:43
  that's because in Coda and Furnace didn't exist. Yeah, Like I played in
• 1:08:47
  OOA one, I played Dan and then someone had like a Star Alliance Worlds
• 1:08:56
  Glide thing. It was like Star Alliance logo something, but they didn't have
• 1:09:00
  in Furnace. Theyd have this. The other five people had in Furnace.
• 1:09:04
  One of them had three more has two that she plays like a hundred times
• 1:09:10
  a game. So I like the idea of your card, like for each
• 1:09:15
  and for each for each car card you're That's the things like there isn't that
• 1:09:25
  many Purge effect outside of you in furnace, So like it's okay if it
• 1:09:28
  is just straight up for you know, forge key at plus one and then
• 1:09:32
  subtract one for every Purge card, do you even need? Really is only
• 1:09:35
  targeting in furnace, right do you need? Do you really need the plus
• 1:09:39
  one? I think you could just say, well, you needed to at
• 1:09:42
  least be like, if not, it needs to be somewhat worse than key
• 1:09:46
  charge, right, I'm okay, fair, So it probably needs to start
• 1:09:51
  a plus two percent, So it's not just straight up why does it have
• 1:09:55
  to be worse than key charge? It could it could be a key charge
• 1:09:59
  is kind of amaze scene, right, yeah it is, But I mean
• 1:10:01
  it's okay to keep printing amazing cards. I agree, but like it's extra
• 1:10:10
  effect is also really good because of the meta, so like you don't it
• 1:10:14
  would impediately become like, I don't know, one of the best cards,
• 1:10:16
  although I do wish they like went moved back to printing really good cards that
• 1:10:21
  were like super important to that house at common as one up, like we
• 1:10:28
  saw it an auto encoder, but I don't think there's anything like that in
• 1:10:32
  Woe. I don't think there was anything like that in DT because like library
• 1:10:38
  card was printed out rare, right, yes, no Common? Yeah,
• 1:10:44
  no, no, well you're thinking library access library card was was No,
• 1:10:49
  yeah, library card is a rare but the original design space by like what
• 1:10:55
  Garferd was talking to himself was talking about like certain cards you saw in every
• 1:11:00
  deck back when Bates which didn't suck those printed one of that Common. Lash
• 1:11:03
  of the Dam was one of but I think it was printed at Uncommon.
• 1:11:08
  But you the Library access was Common, Like I want to see that again.
• 1:11:12
  I want to see great cards printed that Common, but you only get
• 1:11:15
  one of like that. So like you that keycheet, we're talking about whatever
• 1:11:20
  house, I mean, it would probably be in the guy sort of house.
• 1:11:23
  I would like to see that, like anti pursing at Common, so
• 1:11:26
  they can only have one of. But like people walking in within furnace,
• 1:11:30
  No, they're screwed if they see that house, like they're just gonna assume
• 1:11:32
  it and it's gonna be there. Do you think a card that says I'm
• 1:11:39
  just gonna throw this out there? I know, I know you need to
• 1:11:42
  do. We need to kind of get moving here and maybe we'll we'll do
• 1:11:45
  a Lieutenant halasta and be done. Um. I do you think a card
• 1:11:48
  that says just reads action, name a card, search all decks and purge
• 1:11:54
  all copies of that card is that too powerful? Yeah? That's I mean,
• 1:11:58
  that's basically what jars. Yeah, but art well, but Jar,
• 1:12:01
  that's finality, right, Jar, you can Jar, you can destroy if
• 1:12:05
  I if I get said card. Basically, what I'm saying is that basic.
• 1:12:10
  That is what they were going for with Jar that jar to. But
• 1:12:15
  then of course there's that like you said, you know, reclaim by nature
• 1:12:17
  is a card that exists, so you know, like artifact control as a
• 1:12:23
  card that exists. But this will just be able to. I mean,
• 1:12:25
  I don't know if that card, that card might be a little too powerful,
• 1:12:29
  because literally I could just be like, let me see her deck list.
• 1:12:31
  It would be better than jar. Jar also, isn't an monoxious thing
• 1:12:35
  that exists. We're talking about trying to remove that to make a bowl.
• 1:12:42
  I do think the statement about rarity for cards is really important. Your Library
• 1:12:46
  of the Damned is uncommon. I mean it was last I was referring to,
• 1:12:51
  that was the singular one common. Lots of it. Yeah, Um,
• 1:12:58
  library access is common, but it's restricted again to one. So that's
• 1:13:01
  what we want to be able to see. Ayton switch was restricted to one?
• 1:13:06
  Real quick? M hm, just I just want to correct the keyforger,
• 1:13:15
  you know, the Keyfords of Fishing. Not it's Lash of Broken Dreams.
• 1:13:18
  It's not Lash of the Damned whatever. No, it's Lash of Broken
• 1:13:23
  dreams. With what he was saying, my bad Lash of broken dreams.
• 1:13:29
  Yeah, because uh, it was something else of the damned. It was
• 1:13:31
  a book of the damned. It was library. That's what I got,
• 1:13:35
  which is your archive. It's the artifact where you archive for days the severely
• 1:13:41
  worst card. But all right, who wants to go toot Lieutenant Plasta,
• 1:13:45
  somebody take that one for me real quick? Uh? After reap stun a
• 1:13:50
  creature, it's three power Creature Star Alliance Human after reap Stunn a creature.
• 1:13:56
  Alternatively scrap Stunned the most powerful enemy creature. Um, yeah, not,
• 1:14:06
  you know, not, we know we need cards like this, we do.
• 1:14:12
  We're gonna see them at common. Yeah. By it's yeah, done
• 1:14:16
  is a thing. Next card. I wish it was their least powerful creature.
• 1:14:28
  Yeah, that's true. That would be better, right, because most
• 1:14:30
  of the time not the narp I don't want to stun narp. No.
• 1:14:40
  Uh, although with all the proliferation of tokens, whose knows, but we'll
• 1:14:44
  say, don't you touch my narp I came back and heard narp It's like,
• 1:14:48
  listen, don't although the seven power brob Nar wool line, I guess
• 1:14:54
  there are some of those. So that's the thing. I mean, there's
• 1:15:00
  a lot of a lot of a lot of good Brobnar coming out, and
• 1:15:02
  well, oh, the next one's really funny. After we had our discussion
• 1:15:08
  about the way this was written, it's got to be changed, though,
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  do we want to go Okay, we'll go into Lifting Buddy and we'll call
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  it a day. Lifting Buddy five power giant from Brobner after fight, slash
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  after reap, Give Lifting Buddy two plus one power counters. Give a friendly
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  creature two plus one power counters. Why has it got to be rewritten?
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  You just have a small lifting Buddy because I'm one confident the flavor of this.
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  There's two Brobner. This is actually people, this is Balder and I
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  don't know the other one. They are already printed cards on the picture.
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  The idea is heat like the one on that's lift getting stronger and the buddy
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  is also getting stronger. But as written right now, put them the second
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  sentences give a friendly creature two plus one counter. You could just put them
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  on on lifting buddy so he could fight, become a nine, become a
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  thirteen, Like sure, I mean, I guess, but I really doubt
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  that was the intent of this card. I am print assuming when we finally
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  see its final version, it is going to be another friendly creature or although
• 1:16:23
  in his final iteration, I would much like I believe this should be a
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  seven. I was actually playing Woe Robin really recently. I think the change
• 1:16:30
  with a lot of the bigger creatures being at seven in Woe was very smart,
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  um, and it's made it a lot more impact on like what I
• 1:16:41
  can do with Robin are just because of their staying power at seven. UM.
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  So I really would like it to see another friendly creature and just bump
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  his own power up to seven initially, UM, because I would like them
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  to keep that like that direction, making the actual giants bigger than you know
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  sorians because you know they're giants. I think it's fine, I get it.
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  Like the flavors not there right, But yeah, at the end,
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  I think moving to a seven and adding another is the way to go here,
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  um, because I would like to see most of the proper tiants be
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  at seven. The band makes sense to be all at fives in Woe because
• 1:17:23
  like they're just a bunch of rock band people. But what about about all
• 1:17:27
  the fives after that? Though? That's the thing in Whoa. There's not
• 1:17:31
  like there's four sevens. Yeah, I know, but there's plenty of there's
• 1:17:35
  plenty of fives pre Woe. Yeah, we're talking about pre woa bo because
• 1:17:42
  there's yeah, because all that's gonna be rotated out anyways, it doesn't really
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  matter. Yeah, once we get that, we functually play a Grim Reminders
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  and Woe going forward, Um, we won't have to worry about it because
• 1:17:55
  be like, ah, thirty six hundred dollars, we're we're only a playing
• 1:18:01
  We're only playing Grimm Reminders a Woe. Yeah, these all the other sets
• 1:18:05
  have been rotated up. I give them three sets before they do anything crazy.
• 1:18:11
  Whatever comes after Reminders, then they'll do some crazy stuff. Well,
• 1:18:15
  they'll wait to gain some traction. But you know, well three sets is
• 1:18:20
  going to be enough to tell you whether this is going to move continue to
• 1:18:24
  move forward or not. Well, all depends on the sale levels. You
• 1:18:29
  have growing sales each each time, right, Well but well okay, but
• 1:18:33
  here's the deal. If you don't have growing sales on grim Reminders, and
• 1:18:36
  you don't have growing sales on set number, whatever comes out, you know,
• 1:18:41
  whatever set number we are after Grim Reminders. I don't know if they're
• 1:18:45
  not going to continue. I mean, let's just on the road here.
• 1:18:50
  We don't know what the what's a threshold for profitability and are they at that
• 1:18:57
  or not? Right? But if they're if they're profitable, right and they're
• 1:19:01
  continuing to make sense, at that point, they can do something crazy and
• 1:19:06
  let the chips fall where they may. If it's hey, we can't we
• 1:19:10
  can't rotate or do rotation because it wouldn't be profitable, but it would it
• 1:19:17
  would drive players from the game. I don't think they're going to continue printing.
• 1:19:25
  That's just me personally, But take it as you will. Yeah,
• 1:19:30
  they got to be able to make money, right, So yeah, you
• 1:19:32
  clearly there. You can scan your wodex in because collector worm is going nuts
• 1:19:36
  on Twitter. For those of you on Twitter, collector word and usually tweets
• 1:19:45
  out strange and odd decks, so I would shake. Yeah. Uh,
• 1:19:50
  first one I saw when I was going through Puzzle Box is in they Got
• 1:19:57
  a Arm Sorry, Puzzle trinkt is in Star Alliance, Mac the Knife in
• 1:20:04
  Sorry, and Fain Length which it doesn't really matter where Mac the Knife is,
• 1:20:09
  but fan length leader in diss. That's not a big one. That
• 1:20:16
  one their legacy Mavericks. This is a hard pivot the conversation here. Yeah,
• 1:20:20
  sorry, I just it's one of the ones like it's fun looking.
• 1:20:25
  I like the Twitter account because it's fun looking at it. But then it
• 1:20:28
  makes me wonder how did he get the API when we've been asking for one?
• 1:20:30
  Because I got to imagine this is this is not done by hand,
• 1:20:34
  This is done via an algorithm, but either either were all right, guys,
• 1:20:45
  it's been a blast. I think we're gonna save the rest for another
• 1:20:46
  week. We got what nine more cards to go through? Yeah, nine
• 1:20:51
  more cards to go through? So uh so far no PEPs? What do
• 1:20:57
  you guys? I mean obviously this is legitimately like eighteen cards, nineteen cards
• 1:21:01
  something like that. There was a rumor that like some of these cards have
• 1:21:08
  pips, that they just weren't printed for the way they printed the spoiler,
• 1:21:12
  no clue if that's true or not. I like my standing joke that this
• 1:21:15
  is their answered in Furnace. They're going to discard their whole deck constantly,
• 1:21:18
  but in verse doesn't matter. If nothing has a pip amber pip um,
• 1:21:27
  I would just rather have never mind. Even the enhancements we saw wasn't amber.
• 1:21:31
  So like, if the whole set has no amber pips. But even
• 1:21:38
  even that you're immune to in Furnace. You're not immune. You and I
• 1:21:41
  both know that in Furnace has way more value than just getting rid of member.
• 1:21:47
  Don't tell anybody. Well, I don't think the playchesters will come to
• 1:21:50
  that conclusion. I mean, like, this is the answer to in Furnace,
• 1:21:58
  we are genius. It's gonna we're just gonna print a set with no
• 1:22:01
  pips on it and watch it struggle. Yeah, they might think it's great.
• 1:22:08
  They're gonna they're gonna test it grim reminders with grim reminders, and hey,
• 1:22:12
  it's gonna do great versus each other. I don't know. I don't
• 1:22:17
  know ewakwa or initial impression. I mean, this is very very very definitely
• 1:22:25
  too soon to tell. But what what do you think of all the what
• 1:22:28
  we've seen thus far. I like the idea of what I'm seeing with the
• 1:22:31
  curses, um. I think that's a neat idea, is something to be
• 1:22:34
  able to track down. UM. I like seeing the enhancement pips for the
• 1:22:41
  scrap and for the draw. Some of these other cards I'm a little less
• 1:22:45
  excited about, but that's my initial impression. Impression so far and choke show.
• 1:22:57
  UM. I like some of the things I see here. Right there's
• 1:23:00
  enough things here that are interesting that I'm looking forward to it. There's there's
• 1:23:04
  nothing here that I'm like, it's blowing my mind. I do agree with
• 1:23:12
  Z that the Haunted thing is could be a little awkward, UM. I
• 1:23:17
  mean like the Tide was a little awkward in DT for a different reason um,
• 1:23:23
  And that that's potentially a little bit of a detractor. But I'm always
• 1:23:28
  interested in new house and seeing seeing what that can do and how it can
• 1:23:31
  change things up. So I'm cautiously optimistic right on. I like it thus
• 1:23:38
  far. I mean, I think it's fine. I'm also I'll say it
• 1:23:44
  until they change something or I see something else or from what we with the
• 1:23:47
  spoilers, if they do not add some kind of hard counter doing furnace.
• 1:23:53
  This set is just going to continue to feed King furnace like like no tomorrow,
• 1:24:00
  like you like to get your mechanics, you have to have a discard
• 1:24:03
  pile. We're already seeing cards that discard your deck randomly, like this is
• 1:24:10
  even the Duma card as great as she is in Furnascott Like yeah, right,
• 1:24:15
  like this is there needs to be a card that literally stops them from
• 1:24:19
  being able to purge. There needs to be a card that they can keech
• 1:24:24
  eat based on the number of purch cards. Uh, I think, what,
• 1:24:30
  yeah, there's a we know that untamed as inset. There needs to
• 1:24:35
  be some kind of witch that play gain amber equal to the number of parts.
• 1:24:41
  That doesn't always have to be a witch. Can we not make it
• 1:24:43
  a witch for once? Fine Brave Pixie, thank play purge one card from
• 1:24:48
  your opponent's discard pile, then gain the number of amber equal to all purch
• 1:24:51
  cards and discard. I think, could we just make a card that says
• 1:24:55
  player perject card from your opponents deck, like look through it, looks through
• 1:25:01
  it, find it? I mean why not? Why? Why? No?
• 1:25:06
  That's that right? There is actually still not as good as what jar
• 1:25:11
  does, so sure why not? I mean, I don't see why no
• 1:25:15
  shut down the Ginka. I would I would much Yeah, I think commos.
• 1:25:20
  A lot of people enjoy their commos, so I want to stick away
• 1:25:24
  from that. I would much rather prefer a card that is an artifact frankly,
• 1:25:30
  or something that has some substantial staying power um that has a static effect
• 1:25:34
  of this card and or cards in play cannot be purged while this card is
• 1:25:41
  is is around. It still would allow for your your hard r that isn't
• 1:25:47
  a purge but a simple destroy like Poltergeist, to go ahead and remove it.
• 1:25:54
  And you know there are other ways around it. But that's where I
• 1:25:57
  want to see this space tapped into, because that has a much bigger impact
• 1:26:00
  in my opinion, on something like in Furnace, because now all of a
• 1:26:03
  sudden, it's just not playable. Yeah, it's just a card, correct,
• 1:26:08
  put it on artifact like every other card, and well, okay,
• 1:26:14
  yeah, but put it on an artifact, we can destroy the artifact,
• 1:26:16
  put the decks we're talking about or immediately be eliminated. We know, we
• 1:26:23
  all know how hard it is to get a really good deck that also has
• 1:26:27
  artifact like that's still a problem. Like so that great, it would change
• 1:26:31
  thee it would it would change the matter in picture. That also takes out
• 1:26:35
  reclaimed because it would not allow it to be repaired. Would not work.
• 1:26:40
  But you have are you have artifact removal cards that would go ahiad and remove
• 1:26:45
  it and it just changes what we're looking at. Yeah, it affects the
• 1:26:48
  watery cards, it would affect Clone auction Off reclaims. Yeah, I will
• 1:26:55
  say incorrect. And the harvest time really is a true stand out MVP that
• 1:27:00
  often gets missed. I really did like the you know, we'll call it
• 1:27:04
  almost that vault's blessing that card that you are listing where basically purge a card
• 1:27:10
  and then gain an amber for each card that is purged. Something of that
• 1:27:14
  sort still has. But that's the thing. I want to see all of
• 1:27:16
  them. I want to see the artifact that like denies that. I honestly
• 1:27:19
  the key cheet that does that. You know, like, I think all
• 1:27:24
  of these things should come in because like, honestly, if just one like
• 1:27:27
  reclaimed exists and shut down heart auction Off doubled down on that because it's in
• 1:27:31
  Wow, two both of those destroy heart like just just one at least halfway
• 1:27:36
  decent set comes out in a hard counters one card. You can't afford to
• 1:27:42
  walk into a vault, know when you're gonna get crushed by every time you
• 1:27:45
  see those cards, So you at least have to if you're going to still
• 1:27:47
  bring in furnace, it has to be like the very best one, not
• 1:27:51
  half the damn field has them. Right, You'll still see it, it
• 1:27:56
  just will only be the very best, just like today we only see the
• 1:28:00
  very best coda, we only see the very best away, and then we
• 1:28:04
  see a ship ton of in furnaces that just happen to be there because they
• 1:28:09
  have in furnace and they know how to call. Like it's not like cleverate.
• 1:28:14
  Well, there are some that are piloted really well, that's take away
• 1:28:16
  from that, but like there's a whole lot like, oh yeah, I
• 1:28:19
  have three in furnace, two loss in the woods regrowth. I'm just gonna
• 1:28:23
  keep playing this one guard over and over and over again until you run a
• 1:28:26
  cards and I win the game. Like that that's all they're trying to do.
• 1:28:29
  How about an artifact that says you may play your own purged cards as
• 1:28:33
  if they were in your hand. That would be too good. No no,
• 1:28:38
  no, no, no no. The one that simply says, like
• 1:28:42
  I don't know, I don't know the name of the artifact. One sentence,
• 1:28:45
  your cards cannot be purged. Please print that card drazz Cord just said,
• 1:28:56
  please guard Also please the card that Z said. I like both ideas,
• 1:29:01
  Like, I think we need to ramp this up. Let's take this
• 1:29:03
  to what rarity uh for your card? Is it? Well, let's go
• 1:29:10
  with the more reasonable one that the artifacts cards cannot be purged like I want
• 1:29:14
  it at common isolated to one probably common for what's a what houses do we
• 1:29:23
  have? Let's say that could be I could be guystoids, that's a star
• 1:29:29
  alliance. And let's be honest, it's not gonna say your cards can't be
• 1:29:32
  purchased, because it's gonna say cards cannot be perched. If it's If it's
• 1:29:36
  cards, it's even better. Yeah, you cards cannot be purged. Looks
• 1:29:42
  not only like you're in furnace is completely blinked. You can't even psychic.
• 1:29:45
  You can't even filter your own deck. At that point, well, I
• 1:29:47
  think we have a topic maybe for the next upcoming weeks in our in what
• 1:29:51
  our dream cards would be. So I think we we can play with us
• 1:29:57
  a little bit. What cards would we like to see? Um? All
• 1:30:00
  right, that's our homework. Everybody make one card counters uh yeah, counter
• 1:30:06
  something you hate. It doesn't have to be in their counter something that you
• 1:30:10
  hate. Um, we can relist all of the ones that we've already talked
• 1:30:14
  about for the in furnace, and then we all make one new one that
• 1:30:17
  count or something that that's interesting, yeah, in the current meta. And
• 1:30:24
  then I'll make a card that just says doctor Sheep loses the game something,
• 1:30:29
  here's something I don't like him the current what a card named x Ray sucks?
• 1:30:33
  Do? Uh? Target x Ray loses the game? I think?
• 1:30:39
  I think for the the anti doctor Sheep is a card that says this card
• 1:30:43
  cannot be shredded, and anti doctor Sheep has got to be sheers like sars.
• 1:30:50
  Yeah, that's gonna do it for us this week, join us next
• 1:30:57
  week, and you know what, if you're listening, send us in your
• 1:31:00
  dream cards. You can find us on discord um. You can send them
• 1:31:03
  to people used to do that. People used to do it a lot.
• 1:31:09
  But you know what we like, you gotta remember so Yeah, I love
• 1:31:14
  watching the numbers right because when things were coming back right and like Gigi first
• 1:31:20
  came out with stuff, like people were just on it right and they were
• 1:31:26
  pumping stuff to us, and our numbers were just stupid, like they were
• 1:31:30
  higher than I had ever seen them ever. And then we went through that
• 1:31:33
  that lull of like we're right on track per June, and then we we
• 1:31:41
  dipped again and it was like people just you know, it was like it
• 1:31:44
  was like a steady dip and you could watch it like people were just getting
• 1:31:47
  more and more deterred from it. Right, But now that woe was back
• 1:31:50
  again, like it's again it's on that upward trend of being silly, and
• 1:31:57
  it's like okay, like it's just it's one of those things where like it's
• 1:32:01
  the unfortunate. Part of our show is extraordinarily determined by what is going on
• 1:32:09
  with Gig just as you know, because if there's not much going on,
• 1:32:14
  I mean, we're a competitive cast, so like may control everywhere we can
• 1:32:16
  do that, right matters really right, Yeah, you're casual draft Scar as
• 1:32:23
  a human being gotten nerved. Well, boys, I will say as of
• 1:32:31
  today, because we are looking at the eighth we are essentially a month out
• 1:32:38
  from BT. Yeah, excited first VT twenty three. Who's gonna take it
• 1:32:45
  down? It's gonna be the walk, the walk pot you're practicing. Mm
• 1:32:48
  hmm not nothing's not not here in a lot of confidence over there yet you
• 1:32:58
  know who knows. But we'll see who takes down the first Vault Tour.
• 1:33:02
  Obviously we will be having um, well, well we'll be having discussions after
• 1:33:09
  it's all sudden done again. Thanks everybody for taking the time out listening to
• 1:33:14
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• 1:33:17
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• 1:33:21
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• 1:33:25
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• 1:33:28
  Um what it wasn't done it? Yeah, um and uh that's all I
• 1:33:38
  got. Thank you guys so much for listening. We'll see y'all next week.
• 1:33:43
  Happy Forge never May the Forge be with you.