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One Piece, 934-936 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is Spoil Me.
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  Speaker 1: Covering one piece. Episodes 934 through 936. A big turnover.
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  Speaker 1: The three swords style overcomes danger. Zorro stunned the shocking
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  Speaker 1: identity of the mysterious woman. And get the hang of it.
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  Speaker 1: The land of Wano's hockey, Ryo. In these episodes, we
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  Speaker 1: find out who Komurasaki is. And I'm into it, and
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  Speaker 1: I love it, and I'm here for it, and I
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  Speaker 1: love it, and also I love it. No notes. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Spoil Me. Welcome to the show, everyone. I am Natasha.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much to Bernadette for commissioning this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see Bernadette here today, but lady, you are missed,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope that everything is going well for you.
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  Speaker 1: This is a really fun arc so far, guys. I'm
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  Speaker 1: really enjoying myself. I have this frequently at the start
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  Speaker 1: of arcs, so I do recognize that I've said this
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  Speaker 1: before and probably there are people who are listening going, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what you say in blank number of episodes.
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  Speaker 1: And that's fair, but I can only comment on what
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  Speaker 1: I know right now. And what I know right now
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  Speaker 1: is that this is a great time. So we're gonna,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna start with a big turnover, which honestly, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be real with you guys. Every time I
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  Speaker 1: have seen the title, I have thought about an Apple
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  Speaker 1: turnover and Like the pastry and a big apple turnover
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  Speaker 1: at that. And now I'm hungry and I would like one.
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  Speaker 1: So if anybody wants to arrange that, it'd be great.
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  Speaker 1: So this episode is picking right up with the fight
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  Speaker 1: between Zorro and our mysterious murdering man. What is his name?
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the thing. Kamazo, is that right, guys?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's a little blurb under the episode title.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes I'm like, should I read this? I don't
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  Speaker 1: know sometimes if the blurb is telling me something that's
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  Speaker 1: technically a spoiler. I don't know if I am meant
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  Speaker 1: to know this guy's name or not. But the good
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  Speaker 1: thing is that because there are so many names that
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  Speaker 1: I can't keep track of them, even if this name
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  Speaker 1: were a spoiler, I don't think that I would detect
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  Speaker 1: that it were, that it was. So, you know. Seraphim says,
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  Speaker 1: just wait. Wano really upped the production values and you
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  Speaker 1: haven't even reached the Megumi Ishitani episodes. I hope I
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  Speaker 1: said that right. Well, that's delightful here. Very excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: When you say, Sarah Femme, that they upped the production values,
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  Speaker 1: what exactly does that mean in terms of animation? Like,
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  Speaker 1: does it mean that they hire more animators, that the
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  Speaker 1: animators are able to be more detailed than they usually are,
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  Speaker 1: or that there are like digital effects added to the anime?
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  Speaker 1: It might be all of those things. I don't, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But I am really curious, like there have been times
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  Speaker 1: where it's been mentioned, like the animation here looks really
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  Speaker 1: cheap and that's because they went all out for a
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  Speaker 1: later episode. And I've always simply accepted that, but I've
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  Speaker 1: never really looked into what that means. And I realized
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  Speaker 1: now that I kind of want to know. Seraphim says
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  Speaker 1: the burbs, oh, blurbs, I think blurbs tend to be
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  Speaker 1: the Oda boxes that showed up at this point in
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  Speaker 1: the manga. Yeah. So it's, so it's manga Oda telling
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  Speaker 1: us this info. Okay, cool, cool, cool. There's also, I
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  Speaker 1: want to mention that we have another smile fruit. Well,
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  Speaker 1: actually there's two new smile guys this time. And we
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  Speaker 1: get like a little square that is in Japanese for
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  Speaker 1: both of them. That once again, Crunchyroll doesn't translate. So
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  Speaker 1: apologies if anybody wants me to talk about that specifically,
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  Speaker 1: but it is simply nothing. And all I know is
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  Speaker 1: that one is a bear man. And one, I thought
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  Speaker 1: this was sort of weird. In the subtitles, I believe
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  Speaker 1: he's simply listed as Dillo man. It's he's an armadillo,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not listed as armadillo man. He is listed
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  Speaker 1: as Dillo man. And I'm curious why that is, because
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  Speaker 1: Alpaca Man isn't just Pac-Man, although that would be a
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  Speaker 1: hilarious version of Pac-Man. He is Alpaca Man. Like, it's just,
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  Speaker 1: that's the whole word is in there. And I'm wondering
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  Speaker 1: why Armadillo Man does not have that. But Seraphim says,
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  Speaker 1: more animators, more budget, more high-name professional animators slash directors
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  Speaker 1: being hired. You know, I watched that. little video about
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  Speaker 1: the actress who does chopper and i should have realized
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  Speaker 1: like the guy that they're interviewing for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it is clearly the director but i just don't think
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  Speaker 1: about animated films or tv shows having quote directors and
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  Speaker 1: of course they do why wouldn't they but you know
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  Speaker 1: i imagine like somebody in a what are they called
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  Speaker 1: those like folding chairs the director chairs just like yelling
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  Speaker 1: at cartoon characters now go over here but obviously they're
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  Speaker 1: directing the voice actors um look nine out of ten
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  Speaker 1: smiles are just animal dash man yeah but like it's
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  Speaker 1: not animal it's it's why is it just dillo is
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  Speaker 1: that a japanese thing like that's what i was thinking
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  Speaker 1: there's all kinds of things that are like uh you
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  Speaker 1: know i kind of question and then it turns out Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a cultural reference. It's an inside joke. It's
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  Speaker 1: a reference to something else. It's, you know, a bit
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  Speaker 1: of folklore or, you know, whatever. What was it? There
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  Speaker 1: was a guy who has the ice power, who's like
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  Speaker 1: animated to look like an actor that exists in real
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  Speaker 1: life as well. Like things like that, you know? So
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  Speaker 1: I am always sort of on the lookout for something
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  Speaker 1: that feels in the moment, really, really specific and, and
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  Speaker 1: whether or not that is due to the fact that
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  Speaker 1: it is, or is it just Oda being a weirdo?
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  Speaker 1: Because nevertheless, that's still very specific, but it's not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: for the same sorts of reasons, I mean. Seraphim says,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of Megumu Ishitani is a director. Oh, pretty much
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  Speaker 1: every episode she works on gets instantly declared one of
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  Speaker 1: the best of the season. Oh, that's cool. So, Is
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  Speaker 1: her coming section the first section of hers that she
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  Speaker 1: has directed? Or have I seen episodes directed by her already?
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  Speaker 1: All the Navy admirals are based on famous Japanese actors.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know all of them were. I knew about
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  Speaker 1: the Iceman. I'm sorry, his name escapes me. Because I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned him specifically when he showed up as looking a
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  Speaker 1: lot more like a real person. But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that I knew about the others. So I am interested
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  Speaker 1: to see not only what those actors actually look like,
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  Speaker 1: but I'd be curious to hear about those actors more.
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  Speaker 1: reactions to finding out that they're being cast in one piece.
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  Speaker 1: I know that this was something that was sort of controversial,
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: was like the person who did animation, not animation, the drawings.
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  Speaker 1: Is it animation when it doesn't move? It's not, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's illustration. For the original comics of Avengers, where Nick
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  Speaker 1: Fury was drawn to look like Samuel L. Jackson before
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  Speaker 1: Samuel L. Jackson was was actually, you know, cast in
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  Speaker 1: the film. And that's part of why there was pressure
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  Speaker 1: to get Samuel L. Jackson. And I wonder if we
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  Speaker 1: were going to do a live action with those characters,
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  Speaker 1: would we be getting the Japanese actors or are they
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  Speaker 1: too old by now? Cause this is also like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but that would be fun. Um,
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  Speaker 1: not Sarah, him regarding, uh, Megumi Ishitani, um, Not yet.
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  Speaker 1: Her first F for the series is coming up in
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  Speaker 1: a bit. Did we have you watch the One Piece
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  Speaker 1: fan letter one shot? I don't think so. That's not
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  Speaker 1: ringing a bell. Yeah, I don't think so. But my
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  Speaker 1: memory is also not to be trusted. and it may
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  Speaker 1: be that I need a little bit more to jog.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Going back to this fight between Kamazo and Zoro,
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  Speaker 1: Kamazo also sheds his own outer robe because he's getting serious.
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  Speaker 1: And it's interesting because Zoro only uses two sword style, which,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he'll frequently not use three sword style. He
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  Speaker 1: pretty much only seems to bust that out when shit
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  Speaker 1: is getting real, real serious. But at the moment, I
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  Speaker 1: think he only has the two swords, right? And I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if he would have done three sword if Zoro
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  Speaker 1: This would have felt like the occasion to do it,
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  Speaker 1: had he the option. And long story short, Kamazo impales
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  Speaker 1: him at one point. And Zoro, he can't pull the
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  Speaker 1: weapon back out of Zoro. I just want to stop
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  Speaker 1: and think about that. here's, here's my head cannon for
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  Speaker 1: me in my brain. I'm so sorry, guys. This is
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  Speaker 1: so stupid, but in my brain, the way that this
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  Speaker 1: worked is Zorro gets in, like it's through his pectoral.
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  Speaker 1: I think that when this guy is trying to pull Zorro,
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  Speaker 1: his weapon back out. And I'm not really sure what
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  Speaker 1: this kind of weapon is called because they're these long
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  Speaker 1: curved blades that they almost look like scimitar blades, but
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  Speaker 1: they're on the end of sort of spears, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like that's how long the reach is. Um, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like normally I would call this a, uh, Oh shit.
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  Speaker 1: Now I've forgotten the actual word, but I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: that that applies when the blade is this long. Seraphim
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  Speaker 1: says a scythe. Maybe it is. The blades just seemed
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  Speaker 1: so much longer than normal, but that just may be
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  Speaker 1: the illustration style, and it might be that they are
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  Speaker 1: meant to be scythes. Because there is a vibe of
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  Speaker 1: this dude sort of being the agent of death, sort of.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe that is... like a fair, yeah. All right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to, I'm going to go with sides. I
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  Speaker 1: think that is, that's good. But, um, my, my mental
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  Speaker 1: head cannon is that Zorro flexes his muscles so hard
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  Speaker 1: when this guy tries to yank it out, that the
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  Speaker 1: muscles just grab onto the blade and won't let it
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  Speaker 1: come out. That that's like not accidental, but, it's not
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  Speaker 1: just circumstantial. It is a purposeful choice Zoro is making
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  Speaker 1: so that this guy can't get his weapon back. And, um, I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Zoro's injury is nothing to sneeze at. What happens? He,
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  Speaker 1: of course, eventually handles Kamazo, but it's not like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to find the spot here because, um, The guy
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  Speaker 1: that he had originally been fighting that they got interrupted. It's... Ooh,
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  Speaker 1: something Maru. What is this guy? Lena says, I like
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  Speaker 1: that theory. Seraphim says, no, that is totally the answer.
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  Speaker 1: Zoro just flexed. Only logical option. The guy that gets...
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  Speaker 1: That he is originally fighting who gets interrupted is... later
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  Speaker 1: on still standing there and Zorro looks at him and
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  Speaker 1: is just like, Oh, come on, man. Do we need
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  Speaker 1: to do this right now? And that did sort of
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  Speaker 1: just like laughs, turns around and walks away, which I
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  Speaker 1: was very surprised to see how he doesn't have any
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  Speaker 1: parting words. There's no moment of like, um, explanation or,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm curious what all you think, because my assumption
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  Speaker 1: is that this guy thinks the wound Zorro has sustained
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  Speaker 1: is fatal and that he doesn't want to fight somebody
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  Speaker 1: who has been injured that bad because it's one, not
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  Speaker 1: a fair, decent fight, but two, this dude's going to die.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to do it. It's, it's finished, you know, Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I am not sure if that's it or not.
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  Speaker 1: I also, there's the possibility that this guy is seeing
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  Speaker 1: that Zoro fought to defend this woman and child. And
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  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I was fighting you because I, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: he accuse Zoro being like a mountain bandit at one point?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's the fact that Zoro did something that's like,
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  Speaker 1: good and honorable in that man's eyes and so he
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  Speaker 1: had originally been like i'm gonna fucking take you out
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  Speaker 1: but then zoro does something and he's like all right
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  Speaker 1: you know what that was pretty you saved their lives
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  Speaker 1: so i guess and just like leaves it but i
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  Speaker 1: feel like if that were it he would have said
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like he would have like turned and
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  Speaker 1: smirked at Zoro the way that he does. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not really convinced that's it, even though it does kind
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  Speaker 1: of make sense as an explanation. It just doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: to really align with the way he behaves in that moment. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Seraphim says of stealing the sword of one of Wano's heroes.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Right, right, right, right, right. And
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  Speaker 1: I also forgot. So sorry, guys, because I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: the three swords style. I forgot that he puts the scythe.
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  Speaker 1: in his teeth and does like two sword, one scythe.
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  Speaker 1: It's a new porn video. Don't look it up. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I completely forgot. And he says purgatory. That's the like
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  Speaker 1: keyword for the technique that he is using here. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what is happening here. during this sequence.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say that. There's a lot of wild
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  Speaker 1: animation happening. First, when Zorro gets impaled, it all goes
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: black and white. And it's not the first time that
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  Speaker 1: we have done a black and white during a really
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  Speaker 1: big key, like, plot shocker kind of moment. But what's
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  Speaker 1: sort of odd is that normally that kind of moment is, like,
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  Speaker 1: also contains... in the actual plot, there is like something
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  Speaker 1: related to light happening. And so that big bleached out
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  Speaker 1: look with the black illustration almost is like the impression
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  Speaker 1: of what it would look like if you were hit
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  Speaker 1: by a bright light, as in the fire breath, you know,
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  Speaker 1: earlier in this arc, things like that. But this is
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  Speaker 1: a black and white when, where it feels like a
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  Speaker 1: very thorough, animation otherwise. It just looks like we took
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  Speaker 1: film and we've switched to black and white for a
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  Speaker 1: little while. And so for a second, I thought that
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was going to turn out that this was
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: like a weird dream sequence or a mental plan or something.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't really getting that it was the drama of
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it because the look of it is different enough. It's
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: part of what's a little tricky, I think, sometimes with
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  Speaker 1: anime in general, but this series going on for so
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: long in particular. And I know that I've run into
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  Speaker 1: this before where you guys have had to explain to
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  Speaker 1: me that the animation style will change and there will
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: be things that like choices with coloring or the way
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  Speaker 1: that like light glows from or reflects from things that
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  Speaker 1: had used to mean something and now don't mean that
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  Speaker 1: anymore and are just for like the cool look of it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll get a little bit mixed up on, wait,
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  Speaker 1: is this supposed to mean such and such? Or you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like, and I believe that there
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  Speaker 1: was something earlier in, I don't remember if it was
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  Speaker 1: this arc or the one before where we see the
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  Speaker 1: glow coming off of Luffy when he uses armament hockey.
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  Speaker 1: And it's an addition to the black kind of shiny
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  Speaker 1: metal surface that we see appear. And I was thinking,
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  Speaker 1: is this like an additional skill that, But no, it
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: was just an addition to the look of armament hockey.
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  Speaker 1: So this, anyway, that's like the first bit of really
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  Speaker 1: bonkers animation. And then when we get Purgatory, it's odd
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  Speaker 1: because Zorro says Purgatory first. There's this like purple light.
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  Speaker 1: that comes up and it's shooting off of him upward
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  Speaker 1: in like a, what's the word I want? It's like
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  Speaker 1: a candle flame almost, but obviously humongous. I don't even
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: want to say a bonfire because I feel like it's
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a relaxed kind of flame. I don't know. And then
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  Speaker 1: he says on a jury and I don't know what combination,
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  Speaker 1: like we've definitely never seen this before though. And he
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  Speaker 1: comes at this guy, Kamazo with this attack that we
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  Speaker 1: have like cubes, giant cubes, like, building-sized cubes almost seeming
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  Speaker 1: to appear in midair and then, like, fall on him.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing a thing, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: get what exactly. Like, it's obviously a huge attack. It's
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: something we've never seen before. He pulled out stops, and
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  Speaker 1: this is what takes care of Kamazo. I'm not thinking
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  Speaker 1: that he's actually dead, just because that doesn't really usually
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  Speaker 1: seem to happen. But I'm curious if there is something
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  Speaker 1: that you guys are able to explain. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it's spoilery, and maybe you can't. But if there's
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  Speaker 1: something specific about this attack that is meant to have
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  Speaker 1: happened here. But yeah, I was really curious because it's so...
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  Speaker 1: We have had a lot of really big, cool attacks
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  Speaker 1: from Zoro where there's like, an animal involved. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like there was, wasn't there one with a bull? I'm
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: trying to remember all of the different techniques over the years,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: so to speak. I guess it is years in terms
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  Speaker 1: of my fucking coverage too, though. Jeez. And I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to think of like, when has there been a new
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  Speaker 1: one and what have they been called? But this feels
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  Speaker 1: like a really different overall look and ability to because
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  Speaker 1: of the the matter like a different matter these big
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  Speaker 1: cubes of stone it looks like being involved and i
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  Speaker 1: think that's like an animation choice and not literally happening
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  Speaker 1: because once we turn the camera that's not there anymore
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  Speaker 1: but i'm not sure what i'm supposed to have read
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  Speaker 1: it as is it supposed to be like the pressure
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  Speaker 1: is raining down from above or um Seraphim says Onegiri
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  Speaker 1: is one of his most common moves. Yeah, that one,
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  Speaker 1: I remembered that. It's the purgatory before it that I
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  Speaker 1: was like, what exactly, how does that tie in with Onegiri?
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  Speaker 1: What change does it make to the attack? You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Yeah. Seraphim says this is one of
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: those bringing in a big name animator moments and this
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: is his signature style of action scenes. Oh. It could
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  Speaker 1: mean either ogre slicer or rice ball depending on how
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  Speaker 1: it's written. Huh. Okay. Purgatory. Purgatory. So that's a translation
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  Speaker 1: choice then. It's not carrying the same kind of name
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  Speaker 1: and meaning in Japanese. Because purgatory just is such a
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  Speaker 1: specific thing in English, you know. But the purple light, dope.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I get irritated sometimes because I fucking love purple. I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: love deep pink, hot pink. I love purple. And when
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  Speaker 1: they are mixed together, they're fucking awesome. And so often
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  Speaker 1: they are mixed together for the effect of a bad guy.
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  Speaker 1: In so many different properties, purple and black are the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: colors of evil spells or curses or just like the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: colors of the baddie who is, you know, that's his outfit.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: And it always warms my heart when people, we get
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a character that's a good guy with a purple and
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: black and violet kind of color scheme. Big, big fan.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: So anyway, he gets very, very badly injured and wakes
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: up later on in the care of Komurasaki and Toko,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: who I really don't like. I know I've said this before.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: And I don't like to think ill of a child.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: But she's just so fucking weird and I just can't
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: see her being drawn this weirdly for no reason. Like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it's an interesting question. Oda has certain tics with the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: way that he animates that sorry, I keep doing that,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: but he tends to really get what's like weird, but
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: still cool looking versus what is crossing a line into, okay,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: now this is just bonkers and strange. I feel like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: there are plenty of times where something is, is super weird, but,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: not necessarily disturbing. And I feel like that's intentional and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: he really understands where that line is. And I, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: cannot tell if I should apply that history here. It's like,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: this is a purposeful choice to draw her this way
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to have her voice kind of be the way. And
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I don't mean voice like in the, uh, dub. I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: mean like the way that she talks and, and her
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: personality coming through in her dialogue. We are dealing a
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: lot in this section with people trying to figure out
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: who the traitor is. And if it weren't for the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: fact that it seems Komurasaki has no idea about what's
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: going on yet, I would almost wonder if it were Toko,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: just because it's a really unexpected place for it to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: come from. the betrayal coming from like the child that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: seems so innocent, but, and I mean, it still could
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: just cause Kimura Saki doesn't know, doesn't mean that Toko
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't know, but I don't think, I don't think that
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: she's more than what she looks like. It seems like
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: it might just be like, we had to have a
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: second child in this arc and it didn't want her
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: to look exactly like, uh, tomato i keep doing i
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: don't know why i just want her to be tomato
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: in my head otama thank you sarah fam oh my
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: god everybody um but maybe that's it like you i
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: just want to be able to keep them straight the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: thing is though if that were true why is he
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: dry on all his women like exactly like i don't
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: know i don't know i just find her sus there
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: is something about her that is deeply unsettling and it's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like related to the fact that she seems to almost
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: never blink the wide openness of her eyes. Like that
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: is a thing that people who are lying will try
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and do in order to undermine our assumption. A lot
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of times is that like, Oh, if somebody is talking,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: but they're not making eye contact, that means they're lying.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: And so folks who are trying to appear super sincere
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: will make too much eye contact and not blink enough
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: in an effort to like, you know, and it, backfires
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: sometimes because you're like, okay, well, you're just acting weird now,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: but sometimes it can be effective and fool you. So
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: there's that. And then there's also the actual literal voice
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: of the voice actress doing her voice is shrill and irritating.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And the constant laughter is like almost crazy. creepy in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: like a serial killer kind of way, you know? And I, like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I know that there's this whole town where we laugh
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: when we're sad because there's like no better way to
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: deal with tragedy than to make jokes about it. And like,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever. And it may just be that she
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: sort of subscribes to that, like, you know, school of thought,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: but it's different when like a whole town is doing it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It's still very upsetting, but you, you kind of are like,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: all right, weird, but I guess you guys, this works
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: for you. When it's one person alone doing that, it
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just gives a different impression, you know, and energy. So look,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not going to fixate on this too,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: too much, but I hate her. I really do. And
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: it makes me super sad that Kimura Saki, who is
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the fucking G, is like besties with this little gremlin
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: i don't like it i i she i don't like
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it i don't like it so that's where we're going.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to jump ahead a little bit into the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: next because we've got a bunch of stuff going on
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in this first episode that involves other people and I'm
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: kind of wanting to stick to what goes on. We
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: find out Komurasaki is the sister of Momonosuke, but she
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: having not traveled forward in time, the way that he
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: did aged. So she is super excited when she finds
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: out that her little brother is indeed here and that
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: he's still only like what, seven years old, something like that. Um,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Seraphim says Murasaki is just a better, more forgiving person
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: than you, I guess. Obviously. I mean, look, most people are.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think most people tend to be more forgiving than me.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Better people? I think it depends on what you mean. But, like, probably.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not a super giving person to strangers, you know?
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I am empathetic. And I want to do the right
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: thing by strangers. But like, you asked me to give
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: up my time. I don't know, man. Depends. And the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: idea of kind of being like mother to a child
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: that is not mine, that is like, maybe this is
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: exactly how it would play out for me if I
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: had been in this situation. At one point, I think
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Morisaki says like, she reminds me of me at that age.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And so there's that aspect as well of kind of,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: This little girl... I mean, that's what it is. What
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: children are a lot for adults in general is just
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: like a way to link back and remember your own childhood.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: So possibly. But I don't know. If the child didn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: make me feel quite so much like she's a Chucky doll,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: then maybe. I don't know. But I wish... that she
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: weren't such a creep because then I would be fine
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: with this. I just like Kimura Saki a lot. And
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I think she deserves a better bestie than a creepy child.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so we have Zoro explaining to her, like
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: who all is here. And it's just way more of a,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a show of force than I think she was expecting
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: there to be at this point, which is nice. I mean,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it's always nice to have your expectations blown out of
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the water regarding people who are, you're depending on to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: kind of right the wrongs of the past. But also
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: we have this whole thing in town, which it is not,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: part of Zorro's storyline because she isn't telling him this.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I believe it's Usopp who is hearing this story. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: can't remember who he's with. And, um, there is a woman,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: an old lady who is explaining how I love this
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: so much. There are these three men who were rich
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and shitty and they did all awful things and managed
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to get out of them scot-free because they were able
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to bribe and pay people off to either look the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: other way or hide evidence or whatever, you know, like
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: it's just the usual bullshit. And all of these men
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: fell in love with Gamora. Wait, am I getting her name?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: This is when I start to get really, I start
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to trip myself up because I'm like, I have the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: name so in hand that once I started to get
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: comfortable with it, I'm like, I have to be wrong
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: because I'm never this, you know, but Kimura Saki, it
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: turns out they're all in love with Kimura Saki and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that she, those are all of the guys that she
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: scammed out of all of their savings and got them
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: to leave their wives, et cetera, et cetera. And, I
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: don't know, man. I didn't even need this to be
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: true about them. And I was still perfectly happy. But
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to find this out, I am so sorry. But it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: just a hot fudge on a Sunday that was already fantastic.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I was going to say whipped cream, but no. this
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: is better than whipped cream. It's a hot fudge where
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: you've been having a good time. Ice cream is always great.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: But then you do something that you're just like, oh
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: my God, how did you make it this much better?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how much I wish this were
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: something within my power to do. The way that if
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I could go back in time and use the looks
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I had in my early 20s for good slash evil, depending.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I would fucking love if I especially were able to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: time travel so that I knew who was going to
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: turn into a complete maniac. Being able to go back
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: in time and, like, seduce Jeff Bezos and take all
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: his money and, like, sink his ship. I mean, can
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you imagine just, like, completely wrecking that? I... Trump, Trump
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: is one. I don't know if I'd be willing to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: take that bullet, man. I don't know. It all depends. Hmm.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: But anyway, brilliant strategy. I love it so much. And
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: it's so funny to remember the way that she said,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: men are just dogs that fetch me riches because like,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: now that we are getting to know who she is
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: and what she's like, that is so untrue about her personality,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: but she was willing to, to come across as that
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: much of a cold bitch just to get the job done.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And I respect the fuck out of that. I love it.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Favorite character of the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: entire series. And it's not even close. And I hope
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that we get so much more of her. I really,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think it was likely that she
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was actually dead because But I also wasn't expecting her
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to be as big a player in the main rebellion
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: plot either. And to find out that she's literally Momo's
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: sister is such a great reveal. I really, really love that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: It's just giving more of her all the time forever. So,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: all right, now I'm going to back up. trying to
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: make sure that I'm like not missing any, but I'll
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: have to go to the end of that episode eventually
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and see. There's also like, I'm not going to, I'm
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: not really saying that this is true. I'm not really
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: saying this. Okay. So I want to make that clear.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: It's more like this could be possible in a different series,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: or it could be possible if we were going to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: have Zorro do something sort of unusual and Zorro never
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: really seems like he is interested in women. There's never
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: been a time where he's flirted that we've really seen
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: or been like, wow, she's really beautiful. Like even something
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: basic like that. Zorro always is about his business. And
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: that is sort of it. And yeah, there are some
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: moments in these episodes where I was like, in someone
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: else's hands, the two of them would wind up having
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: a thing. Whether or not it actually materialized, that would
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: depend on who's handling it. But I could definitely see
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: there being a sort of will they, won't they going forward.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't know that we're ever going to get
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: that with Zorro with anybody, because it just doesn't really
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: seem like the character, but there are plenty of people
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: who don't really seem to have that. And then they'll
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: find the right person. And all of a sudden it appears.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: And I would not be mad at there being a
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: little bit of that between the two of them, especially
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: considering I love when, uh, when he winds up taking out,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: what's his name? She's like, what strength? And there's almost
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: like she clasps her hands together and, and faints, you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: like it's not really, but there's a, a sort of
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: similarity to the, Oh, my hero, you know, that kind
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: of thing. And I had a moment of like, huh.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And then later when he wakes up and she's caring
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: for him and everything is very like intimate and, I did, again,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: sort of think, huh, but I don't necessarily really feel
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like that's something that's going to happen. It's just, it
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: was a... was got my attention because it would definitely
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: be that were this a different type of story. Um,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: so anyway, I just wanted to mention that because if
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: it does go somewhere, I want to on record that
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I had like noticed, but I don't really think it's
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: going to go anywhere um all right so backing up
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Luffy Luffy honestly there is just not much forward movement
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: with him here um we get him attempting to do
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: his like new not his new attack because calling it
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that it's not his like he doesn't have it yet
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you know um but For the whole first two episodes,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: we have the challenge against Queen. Sorry, I completely like
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: blanked on his name for a second. We have the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: challenge on Queen and the fact that Luffy is convinced
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I am going to have to go up against somebody
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: way stronger than the guys that I have been if
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I want to figure out this attack, you know. and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the thing that we do get is Hyogoro showing Luffy
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: a means with not even a touch and he takes
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: down Alpaca Man now I am not entirely certain why
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: it took this long because like earlier Hyoguro is like, oh,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I hate to be dead. Wait, I'm so sorry that
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: you're like stuck with me as a partner. There's just
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: a sense of, of I can't fight. I'll be no help.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I won't be able to like pull my weight. But
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: then he busts out something that's fucking insane. Out of nowhere.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And I don't really understand. It doesn't seem like he's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: hiding who he is. They're using his name, the, the
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: guards and whatnot. You know, it, Like if it had been,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I want to keep secret that I'm still alive or something,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: then that would make sense that at this point he's like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: you know what? Luffy is a fucking badass. And maybe
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: this dude is worth blowing up my own spot for.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe here is somebody that I could actually tell the truth,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: show what I know, and he could put it to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: use to like help everybody else as well. But it
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't really appear that he was trying to hide who
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: he is. So I don't understand why it takes him
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: so long to bust this out because like, you know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: it's like five episodes in a row, six episodes in
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a row of him just being like sort of on
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the sidelines watching and wringing his hands in distress. Yeah.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know. I feel like I'm
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: either missing something or it's just, it doesn't make sense.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: And it's just for the drama, but either way, We
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: have the introduction of the bear man and the armadillo man.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Dillo man. And forgive me, guys. I'm taking off my
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: wrist brace here because it is bothering me. So if
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you hear that crunching of me, detaching the... What is
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: it called? Velcro. I'm sure it sounds crazy. But anyway,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the introduction of these guys, I had said... regarding one
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: of these guys, how like it, it seems to really
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: depend on the character. If they're going to go in super,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: super hard with the puns, you know, in, in connection
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: with the animal that they are. And we had that
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: guy who was a crab man and there's tons of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: like jokes about claws and butter and seafood and, you know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: all of this, but they don't all, have that sort
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: of thing going on and their man appears to really
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: be leaning into this shit pretty hard talking about how,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure everything is quote unbearable. Um, and
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: he says, you know, I'm going to take a pause
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: or something, something with paw, you know, and, uh, I
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: think you all are very aware of, that I fully
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: approve of all of these weird puns when the characters
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: make them. I especially love when Brooke makes them. No,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: no problems on that whatsoever either. Brooke's the best bar none. So,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I can't compare these other nobodies to the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: pure perfection of the delivery of Brooke's puns, but you know,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: they're still bringing a little something. So that's fine. But yeah,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Luffy handles these guys here, like sends them flying initially.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is that he keeps trying to get
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Queen to fight him. And Queen, it's not entirely clear
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: whether Queen is just like, I'm not demeaning myself by
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: fighting you. Or if Queen is at this point beginning
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to realize that maybe he would lose, like that Luffy
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: is doing enough here to maybe give him pause and
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: make him wonder, wait, would I actually? I can't quite tell.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like the MO of most villains in this
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: series tends to be, even when they are shown the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: exact same, evidence of how they are not going to
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: defeat anybody, they still somehow think they're going to be
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: the one to beat the person. Like every time there's
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: all these other folks that get laid the fuck out
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: and yet they never stop and think, oh, maybe I'll
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: get laid out. It's always, oh, you guys are just chumps.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I'll show you how it's done. So if we're going
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: on that MO, probably, Queen is just not wanting to
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: lower himself. That's my guess. Um, Seraphim. Oh, talking about Hyogoro.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: He's mostly just been beaten down and accepted. He's weak
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and helpless from the last 20 years of being essentially
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a slave. Now Luffy is giving him hope and inspiring
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: him to not give up. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: All right. I accept that. Um, So that's like kind of,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: you know, where things lay with Luffy. And I'm sure
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: next section, we're going to see him trying to do
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: what Hyogoro had just demonstrated. Unclear if it's the exact
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: same thing that Rayleigh was doing in Luffy's memories, you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: because he's trying to imitate something he saw Rayleigh do once.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: So I'm curious if what Hyogoro displayed is like the
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: same exact technique or if they just have something similar that,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll do for now. But either way, it
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I'm just interested to see what Luffy
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: manages to do. Sorry, Florian says, hey, hey, daylight savings
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: got me fucked up. I'm so late. Yeah, I did
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: start late today. Florian. So, you know, I'll be going
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: for a little bit longer here because I started late,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: but I am interested also like what Luffy, his different gears.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sort of curious, is this the kind of ability hockey,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: whether it's observation or armament for Luffy seems to work
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: the way that it works for everybody. You know, you
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: have to practice in order to use it. You have
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to get really good at it and be able to
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: focus in. And it takes a lot of practice to
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: call it up and use it effectively whenever you want.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: But it is functionally the same for everyone once they
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: manage to utilize it, as far as we have seen.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: The gear one through four... has been specific to the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: type of devil fruit that Luffy ate. And I don't
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: really know how that works because I don't recall if
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: we've ever met another character who uses that like gear one,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: gear two system when they talk about their own, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: don't recall their own techniques and attacks. So what I'm
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: saying is I'm wondering if there's going to be a
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: point where Luffy takes some of the hockey powers that
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: he has learned and mixes them with the devil fruit
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and comes up with something that's very specifically his own.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like the fact that hockey has seemed to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: work the same for everyone, it potentially... gives those who
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: have the ability, it makes them... too close an opponent
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to you because they know what you're capable of and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: they are also capable of it but if you've got
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: a twist on something that's yours and yours alone that
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't be prepared for or that works a different
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: way than normal hockey that's when you start to get
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: really interesting and maybe could surprise some people and get
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: around barriers that they have up or whatever. So I
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's a thing. I'm just curious to see. Um,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and you know, the gear stuff just began out of
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: nowhere kind of, and we never saw him developing that
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: or how all of that worked. So I don't know
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: if we're ever going to see it or if he's
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: just going to pop up with gear five at some point,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: but just wanted to put that out there for now. Um, so, okay.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Then we're going to go over to, uh, We got
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: to check in with the rest of the crew, including
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Shinobu and Law and Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Frankie, trying to think.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: And of course, like we've got a bunch of the
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: OG Wano people, time traveler people. They're trying to all
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: figure out what, who it is that could have betrayed them.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: And Shinobu is being pretty brutal here. I understand her thinking,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: but the problem is that when you are somebody who
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: subscribes to that sort of thinking yourself, and when I
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: say that she's being pretty brutal, I am referring to
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: her essentially saying, hey, Law, your friends got captured. All
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: of this, shit that has come out has come out
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: since they got captured. I don't think it's hard to
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: put the pieces together and realize your friends caved and
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: told everything. And they are no longer your friends because
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: they betrayed you. You need to let them go and
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: move on with this plan without them. And we need
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: to change things up because they knew too much about it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: And you know, the, the enemy has them now. And
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: essentially is like, turn your back on them. They're not
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: your friends anymore. And when you are a person who
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: is as ruthless and cold-blooded as she obviously is, and
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I want to put that in brackets, complimentary, that is
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: a valid take. But I feel like a person like
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: her is going to have lost touch. maybe because you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: have grown so accustomed to seeing things this way, that
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: you don't realize what a difficult thing it is for
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: most people to do that. And so you're trying to
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: say this as if it's just a decision that he
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: can make. And most folks aren't going to be as
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: willing to turn their back on folks that were their
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: friend and colleague, kind of, for like years and years.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: And so she's saying a thing that like kind of,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: but you know, when you know something and you are
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: trying to share it with a person who doesn't really
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: get it, you have to meet them where they are
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: and like find a way to see, okay, mentally I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: get that they are feeling this way. I'm going to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: suggest something that I know they're going to hate. So
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I have to find a way to sort of diplomatically
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: get us there. And she doesn't do that. She just
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: baldly is like, abandon your friends. And that's never going
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: to work, girly. It's never going to work. That's not
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: the approach. Now, I will say that I fucking love
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: the conversation between Nami and Usopp regarding what they would
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: say if they were being tortured for information and how
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: quickly they would give up everything that they were being asked.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I loved it so much because I say this all
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: the time. I am not the one to capture. Like if,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: if I have your secret and I get captured, I'm
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: so sorry, but you just need to fully accept it's over.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Your secret is out there. I am not going to
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: withstand torture. I will not be able to do it.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I won't pretend it. And you just need to find
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: another way to get done. Whatever it was that you
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: were planning, because it's not happening. I have such a
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: low pain threshold. I can be such a baby. There
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: is no fucking way. And I love Usopp being like,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I think I might last like maybe three minutes. And
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Nami is like, I would last maybe three seconds. And
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I really liked that. It's not a moment of her
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: being judgy of him. And when he admits that, like,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: because he's trying to be forgiving and, of Law's friends,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: which by the way, it does not seem like they
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: are the ones who gave this info up. But he's
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: trying to be like, you know, even if they did,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I can't be mad at them because I fucking would.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: And at first Nami's like, oh yeah, you're forgiving them
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: because that's what you would do. And, you know, she
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: sounds accusing in that moment. But when he's like, yeah,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: then she immediately is like, yeah, me too. And so
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: it turns from a moment of feeling like, oh, is
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: she about to get real cranky with him about it
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: to camaraderie and just sort of like, well, you know,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: because I really think that people will overestimate what they
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: can withstand sometimes. And of course, in this series, there's
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of folks who are capable of doing more
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: than the average human being could ever manage. So if
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: we were going to have them bluster, I wouldn't even
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: be as mad about it because like in the context
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: of the show, maybe Nami could withstand a bunch of
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: torture and it would just be that she's that contrary. And,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: you know, but I really liked the fact that we
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: got real with it for a second and that it
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: was also, I'm willing to extend grace to these people and,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to turn my back because they're
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: being put through something horrible, potentially. And they're trying to
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: stop whatever's happening to them. And I simply don't fault
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: them for that. But the thing that is interesting here
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: is the fact that Law really, really wants to go
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: handle and rescue his friends. And Shinobu is getting extremely
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: irritated with the fact that despite a good case being
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: made for why he can't just run out there and
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: do this, especially alone, that he just keeps like walking
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: away and turning around and acting like he's about to
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: head out there all alone. And he just does not
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: seem to be listening, you know? And I... like it's
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the kind of thing that's really, if this were Luffy
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: instead of law, of course he's going out there and
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: of course he's doing it by himself because that's how
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: he fucking does what his friends are in trouble. He's
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: just going to do a thing, you know? However, there
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: have been times where he has admitted so-and-so is too strong.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. I have to get stronger. It's never,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. I give up. That's never it. But,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: it is like, I am not going to be able
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: to do this right now. With, I will say that
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that Sanji gets his face smashed in,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: by the way, for having gone into the bathhouse undercover. I,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: it's so weird that he did this for the sake
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: of like, it was a co-ed bathhouse to begin with, but,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: it makes me very happy that he, I think Frankie
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: says something like he's never seen a face so messed up,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: you know? Um, so let's see, I'm trying to find
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: this moment here. Uh, what is the name of the
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: guy who was laughing that Zorro met that little old
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: dude who I thought was in on the thing at the,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: the casino, uh, But he finds one of these flyers
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: like in an alley somewhere and he picks it up
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: and he goes and finds the crew and is just like, oh,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: so is it going to be a battle? Are we
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: doing a rebellion? Like I'm in, by the way, if
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. Now I wanted to point out,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: he finds this flyer in an alley and it takes
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: him approximately three seconds to suss out what it is saying.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to wonder if maybe nobody has betrayed us,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: and it's just kind of an obvious code. Maybe it's not.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: There isn't somebody who... means us ill who has infiltrated
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: our group of friends maybe you just didn't come up
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: with something quite as clever and unbreakable as you thought
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: alternatively he's like wandering looking for them and once he
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: finds them he comes in And says something like, it's
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: quite the set of pipes you all have. Which, what
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: he's saying is, I could hear you guys out on
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: the street talking about this. Like, there's the other possibility now.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's not even about the flyer at all. Maybe
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: they just fucking overheard you, somebody, and like went and
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: told you. Because evidently you guys are not on the
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: DL like I thought. It's embarrassing a little bit, the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: way that he is able to track them down simply
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: by listening for their voices. But yeah, the fact that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: he is wanting to be part of this, knows how
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: to find them, and does so in such short order
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: has got me kind of thinking that maybe it's not
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: really a betrayal thing at all. Maybe that's not even
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: the issue here. Um, if so, I'll be delighted because
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: that will be kind of funny. I obviously wouldn't be
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: able to decode the flyer, but I'm not like the,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: the person that what's the target audience. So yeah. Um,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: there is another thing here that I want to, Oh, Oh, Oh, right.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: We have a moment where Orochi is the name of
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the Shogun, right? He is grieving over Kimura Saki's death
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: in quotes. And we have a moment with the guy
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: that I had thought, excuse me, that I had thought
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: the whole time, was the slasher, who it turns out isn't.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: He's just another sadistic maniac. We have him talking about
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: how he needed to kill Komurasaki in order to send
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Orochi into fits of despair. That's on purpose. So it's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: not even... circumstantial thing or like you know and it
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: did have me for a split second kind of being
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: like is he in on things with Kimura Saki because
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: like disabling the Shogun in this way I could see
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: being something that she would want and approve of also
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: and But he seems so evil. I don't think that
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. I'm assuming that he wants
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to disable the Shogun so that he can take over,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: not because he's wanting to stage a rebellion for justice.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: It is interesting, though, that he was evidently right. Orochi
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: is down for the count. There's a bunch of courtiers
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: talking about how he hasn't been seen outside his rooms
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: since the day she died. Because he's just so wrecked
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: with grief. And the voice actor doing the sobbing is
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: doing a really good job. It's genuinely sad. I was
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, man, I hate this guy. And even
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sort of like, oh, buddy, don't take it so hard.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's an interesting like little hitch in things.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: And very interested to see what that maniac does when
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: he finds out that Murasaki isn't actually dead. And very
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: interesting to see if Orochi is still alive when that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: reveal is made. And if so, I have to assume
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the reveal will also be made who she really is.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: He might still wind up heartbroken because she wants nothing
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: to do with him, of course. But I will like
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: to see his reaction. I think that's about everything. Lena says,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I'm curious how she survived. And yeah, that's kind of
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: where I was coming from regarding thinking that guy was
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: in on it was like, did he, because there are
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: places that you can get stabbed that if you're very
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: precise about it, there's no major organ hit or artery
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: and you can survive it. You know, it's a precision thing,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: but that didn't seem to be the nature of the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: attack that he performed. But, you know, like them working
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: together is the easiest answer on that level, too. So
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: it's part of why I haven't completely discounted it. I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: just think it's less likely. But, yeah, very, very interested
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: to see. OK, I'm going to wrap up. Thank you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: guys again so much for hanging out. Thank you for
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: bearing with me and looking forward to more. Until next time. Toodaloo, motherfuckers.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: That was an unspoiled network podcast.