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Inflation, Debt & War: The 2032 Crash Cycle Is Here—Nations Will FALL w/ Martin Armstrong · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. When you look around at life in America today, especially the struggle that a lot of Americans are going through, so much that ties into our financial system, the Federal Reserve, inflation, the dollar losing its value. And while they're telling us that, oh, well, we're gonna bring inflation down and groceries are gonna come back down and, you know, gas prices are coming down, I think what we're seeing is that it's not the case. I mean, me personally, I haven't seen that.
• 0:45
  If I go and, you know, whatever, you know, grocery I'm buying is now two times the price it was three years ago, it's not getting less expensive. It's getting more expensive. But it's not just what's happening with the economy. It's the the constant rumors of wars. It's the civil unrest.
• 1:01
  And my perspective with these kinds of things, I love just taking that big step back and say, okay. Where are we at in the cycles of history? Why are we experiencing this? Can we learn from the patterns of previous civilizations and previous empires to figure out where we're at and what's causing it and where we might be going? And so joining me today is Martin Armstrong, who I would argue is one of the top cycles experts, if not the top cycles expert in the entire world.
• 1:30
  And what I mean by that, it's a it's a guy that he understands the cycles of money and war and the rise and fall of empires, and he studies it so extensively. He's even built, you know, not AI, actually, but computer programs that study cycles and predict what's coming and what's coming next. And if I won't be able to give an introduction to Martin Armstrong that will do him justice. He's just he's a brilliant guy that has almost a crystal ball into into what's coming because he understands the cycles of history so well. And so what we're gonna be getting into today is trying to understand all the phenomena that we're seeing around us, all the struggles and just the challenges and the failing dollar and the massive debt and inflation and the wars, and look where all these things fit into the overarching cycles.
• 2:17
  And according to what his model is telling him and and what his own perspective and gut is telling him is that everything that we're experiencing right now is not random. It's part of the fact that we are in a significant cycle. It's coming to an end. Right? And he's pinpointed that end in about five to seven years is when this particular cycle ends.
• 2:38
  And it's very significant with how the end of that cycle changes our way of life and our society and the governance of the world. And so we're gonna be getting into this asking the tough questions and taking a look at the very big picture to understand where we're at, where we came from, and maybe where we're going. So please enjoy this interview with Martin Armstrong. Mister Armstrong, it's always great to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here with us today.
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to see you.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: You got good questions.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: I I try to come prepared, but, you know, good questions need good answers to make a good show. And so my questions ain't match up with the quality of your answers, which gets us into a good place.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: So what's on your mind today?
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: A handful of things. One, because I I love getting your perspective on anything to do with the economy, especially as we get into the bigger picture of the economy, central banks, and everything. So there's a handful of things I wanna talk about, see what your thoughts are on, you know, basically, the the US government now owning 10% of intel, you know, getting into owning more patents from the university, what that looks like, you know, because I'm I'm always weary of merger of the private the public sector. I think we've got a lot of bad lessons in history around that. Also, then looking at just the cost of living in America, and I know Trump has kinda promised his golden age, but most people I've talked to in my own experience, groceries are not coming back down.
• 4:08
  Like, nothing's becoming more affordable. Interest rates aren't coming back down. You know, rentals are being you know, houses are being bought up by big companies turned into rentals, so people can't afford to live anymore. I mean, it's a pretty difficult situation, but then also looking how a lot of this ties into what we're seeing unfold in Europe and a lot of the the the debt crisis that we're seeing over in Europe. And so those are the the three main topics.
• 4:33
  But so wherever you wanna start or wherever you wanna, I think, focus on first, I'll I'll follow along.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that, I've been warning for decades now that with the way a government falls, when you're in these Ponzi schemes, that you're always borrowing year after year with no intention of ever paying anything off. So the the debt crisis comes when you can't sell the new debt to pay off the old. And we're starting to see that in Europe I've been warning about. We have the IMF and and France here on the verge of having asked for IMF loans. That is indicative of the fact that they can't sell the debt.
• 5:27
  Why would you go to the IMF if, you know, if you didn't have to? Alright. This is the whole problem, and Germany is not far behind. This is part of what I've been warning about that Europe this is why they want war. And I've been trying to articulate it that they have a choice.
• 5:54
  I mean, either people are gonna be storming the parliaments with their pitch forks, because their pensions are gone and everything else, or, you know, it it's you need an external enemy. Even when Biden put on the sanctions on Russia and gasoline prices went up, what did he say? Oh, it's Putin's inflation. You know? They always have to blame somebody else.
• 6:19
  They never take responsibility for anything. So that's really what Europe is trying to do. And the unrealistic nonsense that I've heard, and they even call Macron, you know, sources and and powers, they call Macron the petite Napoleon, That they really think that they can conquer Russia. And listen to the nonsense from the neocons and the Institute for Study of which is Victoria Nuland's sister in law's operation. Oh, Russia's weak.
• 7:00
  We can take them. You know? So when you keep putting that sort of propaganda out, these people are desperate, and they really think that their way out is to conquer Russia, which has got 75,000,000,000,000 in natural resource. And then that's twice the size of The United States, and we can rise again like the Roman Empire. You know?
• 7:27
  I know you're gonna go in the gutter like the Roman Empire. You know, look. Julius Caesar said over two thousand years ago, people believe what they wanna believe. And and that's nothing's changed. That's that's humanity.
• 7:42
  And all these people, he's had to state. Every one of them is just, you know, against Russia all the time. Oh, and they just keep promoting war. I had one source that was a delegate and paid, you know, at the Vienna Peace Conference, and he called me after it ended. He says this has got nothing to do with peace anymore.
• 8:10
  Everybody's talking about, you know, drafting and stuff like that. You would think logically that Europe would have, you know, learned its lesson from World War one and two. You know? But nobody ever consults history. I mean, that's why history repeats.
• 8:35
  It's it's humanity making the same stupid mistakes every time. And it was Bismarck, who was chancellor of Germany in 1888, and you can look this up. He came out and he said Europe's gonna be engulfed in a war, and it's gonna come from the Balkans. It was absolutely correct, and it's still coming from there. You know, the when they came to me, you know, informing the euro, and I warned that this their structure was not gonna work.
• 9:13
  But they asked me a lot of questions. I told them, said, you really don't know what made America great. And they said, what? I said discrimination. Oh, how could you say that?
• 9:30
  I said, because it was fair. Whoever was the last off the off the boat was discriminated against until they spoke English to get a job. I said, so today you ask American, where are they? They go, oh, I'm half Irish, half German, or half Italian, or whatever. I said, you don't see that here in New York.
• 9:48
  The language keeps everybody separate. And, you know, I got called in when Yugoslavia before that fell apart. And, you know, when the Balkans are just it's an area that was conquered by the Ottoman Empire. So you have Muslims as they moved in. Then you have, you know, Orthodox Christianity, and then you have Western Christianity.
• 10:18
  On top of that, you've got all kinds of ethical differences. The Armenians are a lot of them really fear them. Even Russian mafia fear the Armenian mafia. Historically, in in the West. If I killed somebody in your family, you had a right to kill anybody in mine if you couldn't get to me.
• 10:59
  So it's more like a family feud. You know, cat kills the more we hear we hear about. So that has been the code of Armenia. So all the other mafia organizations, Russian, Italian, if you did something to them, they're gonna kill you and send flowers to your wife. Armenians, they're gonna kill you, the wife, the kids, and the dog because they don't want any retaliation.
• 11:26
  So you get into these things, and I went to Yugoslavia, and they're like, well, you don't know what they did to us. They killed 600 of us and threw us in a common grave. And I and I'm thinking I missed something in the news. You know? I was, oh my god.
• 11:43
  Really? I said, when did that happen? Oh, about seven hundred years ago. The the resentment is always there. Like I've said on the two podcasts that we you can look it up.
• 11:56
  We gave, you know, Greece, like, a handful of jets, and what did they front page news. Oh, now we can attack Turkey with a sneak attack. I mean, the hatred between Greeks and Turks go back to Alexander the Great. No. So, I mean, you know, I I don't see this getting any better.
• 12:20
  They won't reform. The the best best we could possibly hope is that the EU completely collapses before they get a chance to do war.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: And do you see that happening? I mean, do you see because you you have such such a debt crisis with a lot of these countries, on top of, I mean, all the other terrible things that are happening in Europe, do you see Europe spiraling into something like that of a collapse? And what what's it look like if the EU does collapse?
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Probably by next year, yes. Our computer has a panic cycle in the euro, but also in war. I mean, you know, I had discussions with some people in DC. And, you know, I was warning that look. If I'm Putin, there's no way I'm agreeing to a to a ceasefire.
• 13:20
  Why? Because I know Europeans. They're just gonna use that time to rebuild the army for Ukraine. You know? And that's why Putin basically said, no.
• 13:33
  He wants a lasting peace, period. Not cease fire. Because you can't trust these people. I mean, there was the Minsk agreement and that the Dumbass was supposed to be able to vote and separate, etcetera. There wouldn't have been a war if they carried that out.
• 13:51
  And then you have Merkel actually stand up and said, well, we didn't really intend that. We were just buying time for Ukraine to build an army. And she said that to the press. I mean, I was like, what? You know, that's why you had the meeting in Alaska just between Putin and Trump.
• 14:13
  The reason you're you know, Trump understands that Europe has has no right to a table, no seat at the table. Why should Putin even trust anything they say? You know, he had another peace deal and it made the front pages of Ukraine. Boris Johnson hopped on the plane, went there, and told Zelensky he wasn't allowed to sign it. Ukrainians that I know, you know, basically, you know, I feel bad for them because they they really say, you know, are we even allowed to have peace?
• 14:57
  Do we make any decisions on our own country? You know, it's Zelensky who won't allow elections, and he takes orders from NATO, London, and you even have Boris Johnson publicly stay state, and it made the front pages of you know, Norway newspapers. We are in a proxy war with Russia.
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• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Now Russia is well aware that it's not at war with Ukraine. This is a war with NATO. You had Kalis, the Chinese minister is there, and she started telling him, you have to tell Russia basically to surrender, get out, and accept our terms, whatever. And he sources that I had that were there said that he got very angry. And he told her, we are not prepared to allow Russia to lose.
• 17:43
  Why? And he said right to her face, because we know we would be next. You know, this is the attitudes there. You know? You know, Kalis actually publicly say I mean, we put, you know, her videos on online.
• 18:04
  Russia's too big. It should be broken up. This is peace. How do you negotiate that Europe's and she has articulated it very well. They're not interested in beating Russia to just to push it out of Ukraine.
• 18:26
  They want to destroy it. Calm for it. That's why they call Macron the the petite Napoleon. It's, you know, the third time Hitler tried, Napoleon tried. You think the third time is gonna be a charm?
• 18:43
  The excuses I've heard is that, oh, he will never go nuclear because he knows it will blow back on him. Okay. Fine. You know? You you we come right back to that same thing.
• 18:58
  They believe what they wanna believe. You know, nuclear weapons were supposed to be, you know, the great deterrent to prevent war. They don't anymore. I'll never use him. That's okay.
• 19:13
  If he does, we'll do the same. Yeah. They don't care. It it's I don't know. They've been indoctrinated bill by Bill Gates, and we gotta reduce the population as well or something.
• 19:25
  Yeah.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's it. But so kinda tying us back into America, though, as we're watching this, and, obviously, I think that Ukraine was much more of a proxy war under Biden. I do think that, you know, that Trump is trying to, you know, make some changes there. But then looking at just life here in America and looking at the overall global economic situation, and this is something that you understand very well, but, you know, inflation, you know, Trump's trying to get the rates down, and, you know, they're they're kinda battling inflation. They're saying, oh, the the inflation's staying steady at a couple percent.
• 20:06
  There's almost nothing in my life that I look at that's only a couple percent more expensive than it was a year ago. Energy costs, food costs, entertainment costs, vehicle costs, insurance costs, everything is getting more expensive. And I think a lot of Americans are thinking, okay. Well, what what is the what is the golden age that we're supposed to be living under? But you also look at how there really hasn't been much effort to reduce government spending.
• 20:35
  Okay. We had Doge clean out some things, but we're also signing these massive bills and massive expenditures and expansion, expansion, expansion. Now we have the US government taking ownership in private companies, you know, 10% ownership in intel, getting into owning some of the patents from the universities. So, you know, for the American people that are struggling to get by, you know, day by day and hearing things about lowering rates and we're gonna bring inflation down. What's the what's what's the reality?
• 21:03
  Like, where do you see America headed on its current trajectory with the amount of debt that we have?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Well, we have a global debt problem. And we're we're in this Ponzi scheme, not just The United States, everybody. Right? And they just issue new debt year after year to pay off the old. And, historically, whenever you're in this type of a Ponzi scheme, eventually, what happens is you can't pay off you can't sell new debt to pay off the old.
• 21:45
  You can look up the city of Mainz, and and in the fourteenth century, they were doing the same thing there. They're raising taxes like crazy. That's where the Gutenberg press was invented. Alright. So politicians thought, oh, you know, just like Detroit, oh, autumn, you know, Detroit went bust in 1937, raising taxes.
• 22:09
  They thought the auto boom would never end. And so they start borrowing effectively against future revenue. Spain did the same thing. Spain ended up as a serial defaulter seven times. You know?
• 22:31
  Oh, okay. You know? Well, we got a ship coming in with all this gold, so we'll borrow against it before it's even there. And then 1715, the whole fleet sunk. You know?
• 22:43
  So, I mean, they always do the same thing. And it it doesn't matter. They don't consult history ever. You know, it's it's just every time there's a financial crisis and somebody comes up with it, oh, we should do this. You'll never see even the press ask, has this been tried before?
• 23:12
  Did it work? Simple question. Nobody in government asks it, and nobody in the press asks it. So, you know, you know, Trump can be at war with with Powell, and he can replace him, and that's fine. Alright.
• 23:36
  Does it mean anything? Zero. Alright. Power is actually correct. And you get all these nonsense.
• 23:46
  Oh, well, he he's behind the curve. He should have lowered this, that. As if this thing can keep going forever. He knows, one, interest rates always rise during war. This is why UK, France are getting into trouble.
• 24:08
  They're idiots. You can't be beating the war drums and then trying to sell debt. You go into war, interest rates go up. I mean, you you can look it up. What what the White House and the Treasury basically imposed a form of quantitative easing on the Fed during World War two.
• 24:35
  They said if interest rates went above this price, you had to buy the debt to bring make sure that rates didn't go higher for them. Then they tried to do the same thing for 1951, for the Korean War. And the Fed said, no, we're done. And there is, you know, made the headlines, etcetera. And they refused to follow, because they are independent.
• 25:00
  Alright? So once you start down this path, alright, then you really are jeopardizing the credibility of everything behind it. Powell has kept rates, and and you get these people all looking at domestic numbers. No. It's international.
• 25:25
  He knows. As we go into war, inflation rises. But this is a complicated situation. First, we had COVID. Alright.
• 25:41
  I had farmers emailing me. They had to kill, like, 30,000 chickens. Why? Because they couldn't get trucks weren't allowed to come, so they couldn't buy food for them, and they couldn't send them to market. Then you have these idiots that say, oh, you know, egg prices are up because of, you know, these are greedy people.
• 26:02
  No. You've had them killing chickens, you idiot. And those in government never take responsibility. This is the problem in Germany. First, they did the COVID lockdowns, then they put the climate change nonsense on them.
• 26:20
  Then you put the sanctions on, you know, on Russia. The economy in Germany, which is 25%, it's the cornerstone of the EU, has actually shrunk by 3%. You know, you probably saw, you know, videos, tens of thousands of people protesting at Volkswagen. Oh, you can't make gasoline cars anymore. They got the electric.
• 26:48
  They don't understand the implications of what they have done, and they don't care. It's, oh, okay. That sounds good on TV, so I'll just say that. You know? Here in Florida, we had one one, you know, politician running, and if there's we get, you know, red tides in the in The Gulf.
• 27:14
  Oh, and it so what do they do? They blame oh, it's chemicals from farmers. And she says, vote for me, and I'll make sure there'll never be a red tide again. I just googled it. First one reported 1642 by the by the Spanish.
• 27:29
  I don't think there are any farmers. I don't think there are any chemicals here. You know? But, you know, this is the problem. It sound it's a sound bite, and they don't they don't care.
• 27:41
  Alright. Trump is I agree with him on a lot of stuff. I disagree with him on a lot of other stuff. Alright. It's I think he's done okay on the tariffs.
• 27:57
  The when you you're putting in, like, 200 percent, it's it's it's to force them to negotiate. Alright. So you just come out and said, okay. They'll drop all the tariffs. You have no idea the restrictions that Europe was the worst.
• 28:19
  You can't sell California champagne because it can only be called champagne if it comes from the province of Champagne. Stuff like this. They were outlawing all kinds of fertilizers big for climate change. Then, oh, if your food was grown with that, you know, might be legal in The United States, you can't sell it to us. Stuff like that.
• 28:42
  So it's not necessarily just tariffs. There's all kinds of restrictions and things of this nature. So the combination of COVID and the climate change stuff, that has set in motion rising prices. Right? What our computer's been showing and I've been warning about that while the economy's going down into 2028 globally, right, We are looking at stagflation.
• 29:18
  So rising prices. Right? You have it is more like the seventies where we saw a stag flation because OPEC raised the price of oil, and that increased the cost of everything. But at the same time, we were going into an economic recession. So they call this stagflation where the inflation rate is higher than the economic growth.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So stagflation is worse than inflation because stagflation is things are getting more expensive. People are making less money.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And the economy is going down in general. Our computer has been showing that Europe is most likely going into a depression into 2028, whereas we are more in line for a recession. And our biggest danger is largely the press. So anti Trump to give you an idea that in the nineteen thirty two election, that's where this nonsense of tariffs came from. In the in the election, they were blaming the Great Depression on tariffs.
• 30:42
  Why? Because Smoot and Hawley were both Republicans. Oh, the Republicans put and that's what caused the Great Depression. First of all, the tariffs didn't come in until until basically the 1930. Mark was already down big time.
• 30:58
  Alright? Then you had the sovereign defaults in 1931. That this had nothing to do with tariffs. There isn't one respectable economist that ever commented that the Great Depression had anything you do with terrorists. But, you know, it was a, you know, it was a bullet point for the thirty two election to get FDRA.
• 31:25
  So then you hear people, oh, tariffs. That's gonna be bad. So you had all these people predicting that, oh, Trump's tariffs are gonna be sorry. Didn't work. Did it?
• 31:37
  They don't do the research, and most of it is just sound bites and propaganda. And my concern is that, again, they'll do the same thing. Blame this recession all on Trump's tariffs or this or that. When this is a global contraction, and the real problem is the debt. Now to show you even more, the you had the Biden administration really torpedoed the The US economy.
• 32:21
  One, you have Lincoln put in the sanctions against Russia. Gasoline prices went up and everything else fine. He had the audacity then to tell China, if you help Russia, we'll do the same to you. Do you understand that China was the biggest holder of US debt, so then they start dumping. You know, you're threatening them with war, but then you say, oh, gee.
• 32:52
  Wanna buy some bonds? This is I what mean about these neocons, etcetera. And and most of the other people, they're very myopic. They only look at their that one thing. Look at Iraq.
• 33:07
  Oh, we just gotta take out Sodom Hussein. Did anybody consider what comes after? No. ISIS chopping off people's heads. You got Tony Blair's apology.
• 33:20
  It's on YouTube. And he said, we thought we were freeing the people from Sodom and Saints. We didn't realize we were subjecting them to more sectarian violence. Yep. They never look at what comes next.
• 33:36
  Never. Alright? This stuff with Russia and Ukraine. Alright. What happened?
• 33:46
  Do do you realize that you're actually talking about the conquest of Russia, not just winning this war in Ukraine. If somebody's gonna break in your house and you get a gun, you're gonna push the button. Simple as that. So the debt problem we have is very, very serious. And we're approaching what we've been warning about is the sovereign debt crisis.
• 34:22
  When Greece went needed an IMF bailout 2010, the traders, everyone made a fortune short shorting Greece. And then what happened? They go, oh, who's next? Oh, Spain, France, Italy. They start it it's a contagion.
• 34:44
  They start looking around. Right? France is in trouble now. The government may collapse. That undermines the entire euro.
• 34:54
  The traders then look, oh, who's next? Alright. Just look at the thirty year rates on German bonds. They're going up the record highs. The confidence in Germany is being bulwark.
• 35:09
  Go on. Alright. You got Marx, you know, pushing for deficit. Oh, now you have the German economy actually shrinking by 3%. Then you have these neocons at NATO saying, oh, we want 5% of your GDP to prepare for war.
• 35:32
  So it's five plus three, and you're in 8%. Just there. Alright. Negative. You're going into a depression.
• 35:43
  Now, everybody just looks out after their own self interest. They don't consider anything that we're all connected or anything of that nature. Then you have these people pushing all the dollar, de dollarization. Really? Okay?
• 36:02
  You want euro? I'm telling you, that's going in the in in the trash can. Alright? What's next? Oh, you wanna own rubles, Juan?
• 36:12
  You know, I still have some, you know, Indian notes that are being canceled from the last time I was there. Look at the debt level of Brazil. It's one of the worst. Alright? And then you go, oh, Brick, she's gonna go.
• 36:30
  Really? You know, first of if you did a gold back currency, that's deflationary. You know, we have to change the political system first. That's what brought Bretton Woods down. Fine.
• 36:48
  At a fixed exchange rate, go to $35, but you didn't limit the amount of dollars you're creating. Come on. Three year old with a pocket calculator could figure out it's gonna go bust. I'm not talking about Nobel Prize winning stuff here. Alright?
• 37:04
  And you get you all these people, oh, well, you know, we'll go back to a gold standard. Really? Do you understand what you're even saying? You know? They don't at all.
• 37:16
  They want, oh, gold standard, but then they want their house to go up, and they want a raise. How do they get those two if money doesn't move?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: So does going back to a gold standard, is that basically, in essence, just wipe out all the fiat currencies because those can only exist without some sort of commodity basis for for their their money printed?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: It it's irrelevant what that is. It the problem is the political system. You know, if I'm gonna run for office, vote for me. I'll give you a lovely pop and a free car. How do I pay for that under a gold standard?
• 37:59
  You need the floating exchange rate. It can't be perpetual debt crisis. They issue more money. They issue more debt to pay for that lollipop in the car.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: So so it's not just as like, a sovereign debt crisis facing a single country. It's just the entire world is caught up in this debt Ponzi scheme, and there's it's like a balloon you keep that that only has an in valve. You can't pull the air back out. All you can do is keep blowing and blowing and blowing until one day, the whole thing just blows up.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Right. That's what our computer is showing for 2032. Okay? Republics will fall. This is unsustainable.
• 38:45
  You're starting to see the cracks there in Europe. And, you know, because of what Blinken did and threatened China. Alright. So then China start dumping 50,000,000,000 a clip of US debt. Alright.
• 39:08
  And you get these people that blame the central bank. I'm sorry. Take a look. You know, probably AI will even answer it. Alright?
• 39:19
  The amount of money the Federal Reserve creates is minimal. What happens is today, the bulk of the money is created by the debt because it's just debt money that pays interest. Before '25 yeah. Before 1971 and back in the sixties. This is where the people's, you know, their theories are are antiquated, and they haven't looked at them.
• 39:45
  If I had $100 EBOT in the 60s, I went to the bank and said, gee, can I borrow $50 against it? It was illegal. So that's where it came up. It's cheaper to print, less inflationary to to basically to borrow than to print. Because you're taking money out of the system, you're not increasing the system.
• 40:15
  However, after Brentwood's, I wanna trade gold futures, you can post t bills. Debt is now money that just pays interest.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I see. So it's it's interesting because it there's it's easy to have this mentality that you've got, you know, Jerome Powell, the Fed is pressing the red print button, and that's just, you know, spitting out, you know, dollars like, you know, an automatic rifle. Just, you know, burn. The press is running, and dollars spreading everywhere. But, actually, what what you're saying is that the real issue is I mean, it's really it's it's the debt, and then the the derivatives tied to the debt.
• 40:54
  Right? It's this this massive
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Debt sold on top of debt sold on top of debt. It's like it's like you've buried yourself under a mountain of debt, and and there's no way out.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: When Ronald Reagan was president, the national debt was $1,000,000,000,000. We are now spending 1,000,000,000,000 in interest. This got nothing to do with the Federal Reserve. Then if China owned 10%, so we're sending a 100,000,000,000 of 1,000,000,000,000 to China. It doesn't even stimulate the domestic economy anymore.
• 41:34
  See, all these theories that people just assume, and they're not looking at them anymore, well, often the Great Depression. Keynes, oh, if we raise interest rates, lower interest rates, we can manipulate society. Very nice. US had a balanced budget back then. So in theory, his idea may have quasi worked.
• 42:00
  Okay. Today, the government's the biggest borrower. You raise interest rates, the government spends more. If you, you know, if you raise interest rates and say, does the government ever say, oh, gee, the Fed wants us to spend less? Not gonna happen.
• 42:20
  See, all these theories that people just assume, blending the Fed, you're blaming the wrong guy. You know, it's it's you're blaming the guy you know, it it's the bullet rather than the guy that actually pushed the know, pulled the trigger. Yeah. So Oh, it's the bullet that was responsible, not him.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: And so looking at the situation and thinking, oh, maybe if we can, you know, get rates back down and stimulate the economy and trying to fix things, it's it's almost like I'm I'm, you know, kind of struggling for the metaphor, but it's almost like you have a cancer that has it's a kiss, or you have a patient that has cancer in every organ, in every bone, and it the whole the whole body is just so far past the ability to be saved. But you're trying to say, well, if if we if we, you know, get some sunlight and put some Band Aids on over here, we'll be we'll be good again. It's like, no. The whole system is on its deathbed. Right?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: That's what we're that's what we're facing, and you're beginning to see the stress of that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I see. So so the the price is going up, the what happened in COVID, all of these things are symptoms of a much, much, much larger problem that's facing the entire world right now. It's a fact that the entire world is under a mountain of debt that only is increasing, that now the payments on the debt are more than a lot of countries' GDP, and there's no way out except for the entire system to kinda blow up, basically.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: This is why Europe's looking at war. And look, it's just it's not sustainable. It's just not sustainable. But we have to look. Russia and China, under communism, it collapsed because it was just not efficient.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Every collapse is the same. The warning signs are ignored because the market keeps going up, but then a sudden and unexpected crash. Ordinary people often lose everything, but the elites who pulled out early, they buy the world back for cheap. That's the pattern, and it will repeat. The only way to break free is to step out of their game before it even starts.
• 44:53
  That's why I hold physical gold and silver, real assets in my possession immune to their manipulations. When the reset comes, metals will still have value. Paper and digital numbers won't. So picture yourself as that first wave hits. Do you wanna be running for cover or sitting in a position of strength?
• 45:11
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• 45:27
  Speaker 2: And I think this is why the neocons are so pissed off because it collapsed all by itself, and they didn't get to shoot anybody. You know? As you know, when China I I was called in, and I was actually helping China become capitalist. And they had taken me to this room, and they were actually monitoring everything in the country, but they were not interfering. And there were 249 varieties of tea.
• 46:02
  And I'm asked answering questions that are to me, we're kindergarten level. It's like, well, why is this one tea selling for, like, a dollar here but $5 there? I said, well, where is where does it come from? Here. I said, well, first, you have transportation cost.
• 46:19
  They go, oh, yeah. And I said, somebody will pay more for this one if they like this version versus that one. Really? We had a a Russian girl who was a programmer for us for a while. And it was interesting because she, you know, she had come to migrate to The United States to listen to her.
• 46:46
  You know, she said her biggest dilemma is when she went shopping. I said, really? Why? She says, because over there, I wanted toilet paper. There was only one brand.
• 46:58
  That was it. Here, I can make a decision on everything. Do I want this one or that one? What's the difference with You know? This was communism.
• 47:08
  You know? And, you know, what I was explaining there in China was basic to me kindergarten level capitalism, explaining human nature. I like this one more than that one, so I I want this one. And it was like, oh, okay. You know?
• 47:28
  I was impressed that they weren't interfering. But, you know, I that's the level of teaching that I was doing in China. I mean, it's like kindergarten, first grade, whatever. But, you know, it it was interesting because then I could see why, you know, communism collapsed. Because at tea, that was a dollar here, and it was $5 over there.
• 48:04
  Under communism, it still had to be a dollar even if it cost you $10 to get it there. That's why communism collapsed. We are going through this. We're just basically, like, light beer. It's Marx, you know, light version of Marxism that we think we're we're capitalists and free.
• 48:34
  We're not. You know, it's like, vote for me, and I'll give you this. I'll take care of you. Even if you're socially before the Great Depression, the guy would often be twice the age of his wife. Why?
• 48:58
  Because first, he had to go get the house to farm the chickens, then go to you and say, I wanna marry your daughter. And you would say, what do you got? Can you afford it? Alright. So you had to prove yourself first.
• 49:15
  You know, after socialism started, I wanna marry your daughter. What do got? I don't know. We're just gonna start life together, maybe live in the field of daisies, you know, whatever. There's always socialism.
• 49:27
  There's always welfare if we can't make it. You know? You lost that. That's why I think also the divorce rates went up crazy. They they say most of them, the divorces are over money.
• 49:40
  But that was the big difference. And so it changed us even socially. And before, you know, there were, you know, people, they saved to take care of their parents. So you would often have a number of kids. That was your retirement.
• 50:04
  Then Social Security comes in and rest of it. How many kids shave to take care of their parents today? You know, most of them, the statistics are showing they're still in their thirties and they're living at home off their parents.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Gosh. So all all these symptoms, the the whether it's the debt crisis, but even what we're getting in now, the the social issues, just all this. I mean, when I look at it from the big picture, it's not to be morbid or doomsday, but we're at the end of an empire. We're the American empire, as we know it, is is it's it's at its end cycle.
• 50:42
  Not to say that we're all gonna die in an apocalypse, but the system is broken. It's been broken for a long time. It's been perpetually more and more broken. And now the more they try to fix it, the more they break it. And so the only thing is this, the whole thing has to break, and we have to somehow start over again and and hopefully get through that.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You go through these things roughly every three hundred years or so. The last time we, you know, we overthrew monarchy. You know, this time it's gonna be republics because they have they have corrupted themselves. If I wanna run for congress, I can tell you anything you wanna hear.
• 51:24
  I'll save the whales. I'll make sure it doesn't rain on Sundays. Whatever. And then I get to Washington, and there's a meeting the very first day. Congratulations.
• 51:35
  You're here. This is how it works. And just look at the votes. You're down party line. So I could say anything you wanna hear.
• 51:43
  I get there. I don't irrelevant. Forget the whales. You know? Look at Europe.
• 51:54
  When they designed it, the the European parliament has no power to write a law. Zero. That's the only thing you can vote for. Ursula. Go over.
• 52:11
  She's never even stood for an election to be a dog catcher. Never elected to anything. The commission that makes all the laws, unelected people. Right? The Europeans have zero chance of overthrowing their government and, you know, from a democratic perspective.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Through the vote. Yeah. I feel like even in America, there's no chance. Because we have no chance of changing anything through a vote in this country, unfortunately, at this stage.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Mean, oh, look. This is you know, look at what they did to RFK. Alright? I warned them when I heard they're not gonna allow you on the ticket. Oh, come on.
• 52:58
  That's absurd. Wow. They were basically they already had it picked Camille was gonna be on the ticket. That's it. And there was gonna be no primary.
• 53:08
  So they were doing the same thing. Then he had some sort of deep state person on his staff. I don't remember what her name was. And, oh, we're run independently. Oh, you can win.
• 53:22
  I said, sorry. My computer says you don't stand a prayer in hell. And after the state of New York kicked him off the ticket independently, that's when he really moved over to Trump. And I had known a a you know, it didn't make a lot of news. But back in 2016, that there was a an agreement between Trump and RFK that Trump was going to allow him to start a commission on vaccines.
• 54:02
  And all the pharmaceutical companies then threatened congress that they would pull all their funding if that commission went through. That commission was shut down about three months before COVID. Alright. I didn't get vaccinated. I didn't let my family get vaccinated.
• 54:29
  Why? Because I knew also Klaus Schwab, three months before, was making phone calls saying a virus is coming. I mean, all this stuff was that was all for climate change. I mean, I I you can look on my site. There's a video of WEF, how great climb how great the lockdowns were.
• 54:57
  Tell us they ended up pulling it because they got so much flack from it. But, oh, the planet is cleaner now. This is what it was all about, and they succeeded. Okay? The vast majority you know, they created, you know, work from home, Zoom calls, all this.
• 55:18
  Alright? Office Office space is, you know, got a a commercial real estate, you know, crisis. All this was created by COVID. It was for climate change. It had nothing to do with any any bullshit of of of a virus.
• 55:39
  Alright? Like, I had, like, some respiratory thing. My daughter's, oh, maybe got, you know, go test I got tested three times and said negative. She finally said, look. Gotta go to the Tampa hospital.
• 55:53
  See what the the pulmonary guy says. I walked in. I said, look. I've been tested for COVID three times. It's not COVID.
• 56:02
  The head of pulmonary. You know what he said to me? We still forget COVID. The tests are not valid. And we look.
• 56:11
  It it this is this is what they did with COVID, and it was all for climate change. Stop the commuting. They didn't want people going on. And you had, WES pushing fifteen minutes to these. This is what this was about.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: It's all for climate change, and and climate change was just about the Trojan horse for global tyranny, like global technocracy under under a centralized control.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: All this stuff. Then you get, you know, the World Health Organization wanting dictatorial powers to declare whatever they wanna declare and lock down to whatever. It's all for climate. Total nonsense. And, you know, this is, you know, this is what we're dealing with.
• 57:01
  You know, the whole climate change thing is, again, people that have no clue. Oh, it's warmer this year than when I when I was a kid. So therefore, we're causing it. It's the same thing with the the politician over here. Oh, red tide is caused by the farmers and and with chemicals.
• 57:22
  Alright. The climate has always changed. I hate to
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: tell that. Cyclical. It gets hotter for a while, then it gets colder for a while. It gets
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Look. You had all the the sea peoples. You can look up the book 11 you know, I think it was November. They invaded the South. Climate change.
• 57:44
  It was freezing up there. Why did Attila the Hun move into Europe? Europe I mean, Asia went into a major drought, so you leave. You know, climate has driven, you know, people and civilizations and migrations and whatever, and it all have always taken place. You don't pick up and move someplace unless you really have to.
• 58:14
  Simple as that. If I can, you know, got a nice piece of ground here, can, you know, plant my food, then why do you leave? You know, the the whole thing that started the the enlightenment period. Look it up. They found, you know, woolly mammoths completely frozen in the tundra up there in in Siberia, still with plants in their mouth and stomach.
• 58:43
  So how are they suddenly completely frozen? You know, that started the period of enlightenment, encyclical, and looking at things of this nature. They're all starting involved in that. How could this happen? You know, you before before then, it was this idea of linear idea.
• 59:07
  The world's always the same every day. All of a sudden, ice ages, cooling, warming periods, you know, that started the whole enlightenment period. I mean, you can look it up. I mean, they found woolly mammoths. I mean, frozen you know, I think the first one that they discovered was a was a woolly rhinoceros.
• 59:34
  It's in a museum today, completely frozen. How does something like, you know, you're just eating lunch, and that's it. You're frozen like that. So, you know, look, there's a lot of different things of of this nature. And there are maps that showed Antarctica, you know, the coast line of Antarctica, you know, from the fifteenth century.
• 1:00:04
  How did that happen? How could they chart it if it was all iced? Now they're starting to find out there were forests underneath there. They're digging it, and I go, how about that? Complete rainforest underneath the ice?
• 1:00:21
  So it look. This is the way the planet is. It's always been the poles have shifted. Shifted. We know for geology because where the poles were.
• 1:00:31
  Because when a volcano erupts, the magnet, when it cools, is magnetized to where pointing to where the North Pole is. So we know it was over Hawaii at one point. I mean, if these things move, it's not always the same every day. Sorry.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: It just seems like you have these big moves, these big shifts, things settle for a while, there's some sort of consistency, maybe a little bit of stability until the shift starts to emerge again. And this is what it just seems like that that's where we're at. I mean, you could say that it's a global debt crisis, but I think it's much bigger than that. I think there's lot of discussion of the polls shifting. Right?
• 1:01:16
  You know, heading into 2027, '8, you know, 2030, that a lot of people are talking about that there's some larger events that are on the horizon, and that a lot of the behavior that we see from these so called elites right now is reflective of them understanding that something is coming, and they're scrambling because they know they're not in control of it. They're trying to gain control amidst the chaos, but there's much larger forces at work here.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look. I mean, current in the in in the Atlantic is is starting to shift. You also have, you know, the number of volcanoes and earthquakes in and around the Pacific Rim are are rising dramatically. I was on the phone the other day.
• 1:02:02
  They they believe that the the supervolcano, which is the Bay Of Naples, is starting to become active again. Look. Everything has a cycle to it. Correlations on that, when you go into solar minimum, the there's an increase in gamma rays. And the theory is that the gamma ray is kinda like an x-ray type thing.
• 1:02:34
  It it penetrates the surface of the Earth. So they're thinking that maybe when you go into these periods of solar minimum, the gamma rays might activate, you know, earthquakes or volcanoes. I mean, nobody knows for sure. But they all this stuff is definitely cyclical. I mean, there's a book called the year without a summer.
• 1:03:00
  Alright. 1816. When I think it was Krakatoa that erupted. And they throw so much ash up into the air that it was snowing in New York City in July. That same thing happened in the Byzantine Empire in in in around May.
• 1:03:25
  And historians back there writing that they hadn't seen the sun, you know, for weeks and months. Crop failures, when you correlate it out, that's also when disease comes. Gives people malnutrition, etcetera, and then your plagues follow that. I mean, even you you look at Crimea, you know, our computer is able to predict, you know, where you can Google it up. In 2013, I I put out the computer saying it's gonna start in Ukraine.
• 1:04:05
  And it was how does it pick the area you're in in advance? Because Crimea has been fought over constantly since ancient times. Alright? The black plague came from there. The Asians came in.
• 1:04:24
  The Mongols came in. They brought you know, you can read about it. There was an Italian fort there, and they started catapulting in the people that died from the plague. Scared the Italians. They fled Crimea, took the black plague back with them to to Italy, and then it wiped out about 50% of population of New York.
• 1:04:52
  I mean, look. The the history is interesting when you when you look at a lot of this stuff. But you gotta look. You know? If you look, you begin to see history does repeat because humanity never looks at it, and we repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again.
• 1:05:12
  Unfortunately. Look. Those in power and government, we are facing a sovereign debt crisis globally. Japan is is one of the highest debt to GDP ratios. When you pick up the rug and you really look at Japan, you'll see that who owns The US debt, it's the private corporations that bought The US debt as a hedge against their own government.
• 1:05:41
  Japan, if the government itself, buys its own debt because they can't sell it. Okay? There was one statement I thought was really absurd, but they came out and they bragged that the government bought, you know, 90% of the auction. You think that was a good thing? You can't sell it.
• 1:06:10
  Alright? Brazil, same kind of problems. I mean, when our computer is showing World War for 2026, It's not like World War one and two in the sense that it's it's an alien group against another group. This is it's worldwide. So you're seeing conflicts in India, Pakistan, Thailand, Cambodia.
• 1:06:52
  You're looking at China, Taiwan, North Korea, South Korea, Russian, you know, ships in the in the in the Sea Of Japan, and Japan, you know, getting all, you know, flustered over that throughout the Balkans, you know, it's Middle East. It's everywhere. It's not just one spot. And but putting in all the data in our computer, it's taught me a lot. And what it shows is that it correlates absolutely everything.
• 1:07:34
  Climate, war, you name it. It's it's doing everything. And the interesting thing is that, for example, when Rome overthrew its Tarquin king and republic was born in May, within six months, Athens is overthrowing its tyrants, and democracy's born. Oh, that's a good idea. American revolution.
• 1:08:00
  Okay. Fine. George Washington's being sworn in 1789. French goes, that's a good idea. French Revolution, 1789.
• 1:08:10
  Tenement Square happens. Two months later, what happens? Berlin Wall falls. 1848, dispute in in Sicily. Oh, that's a good idea.
• 1:08:27
  Spreads throughout all of Europe. French government's overthrown. The German flag today is the flag of the revolutionaries, not the previous. All those flags with three stripes, they were the the revolutions of eighteen forty eight. So it becomes a a contagion.
• 1:08:51
  I'd say, like, almost like a flu or something. You know? It's like and if you look deeply, you'll see, for example, Cambodia and Thailand. It was you know, this goes back to, you know, border disputes. Even the last time was 1987.
• 1:09:11
  So it's wherever old grudges grudges are, India, Pakistan split, you know, this, they're not you. It's like, oh, it's them again. And you know, it's just the way it is. I mean, I know people in Serbia, and they still hate Armenians. Alright?
• 1:09:37
  It's not gonna go away. You know, we have employees in in Ukraine, one in Kyiv and one in Donetsk. We didn't talk to each other. You know? And we had a conference in in Greece, and the one from Kyiv refused to go back the quickest way because the plane stopped in Moscow.
• 1:10:02
  Went off to Spain, someplace else to to get home to Kyiv. These the are systemic. I don't see you getting rid of them. I mean, you look at the Middle East, Iran versus Israel. This is like one god against another god.
• 1:10:22
  Where's the negotiation here? Yeah.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Is Good point.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: You know, it you know, it's so that's what I mean. This is it's different. It's what the computer is showing me is that this is more of a global conflict. It's wherever there were all grudges, you're seeing them resurface. Turkey, you've got Eridan lamenting over the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
• 1:10:58
  And when Israel was attacked, out there supporting all the Arabs, what? Because he wants to resurrect that. He said it so many times. And you got greased. And I said, we handed them some you know?
• 1:11:13
  Oh, now we can do a sneak attack on on Turkey. I mean, these things are they they're always gonna hate each other. Simple as that. I mean, it's just I don't think there's any solution. It's like, you know, like I I I've said to you before, you know, I've you know, Bill Crystal, whatever, new.
• 1:11:37
  You can't talk to them. There's no there is no convincing them that they're wrong. You know, I argued with Crystal back in the nineties. Oh, if we take out Saddam Hussein, Assad out of Syria, and Qaddafi will bring peace to the Middle East. Really?
• 1:11:56
  You know? I said, have you ever been there? It's tribal. They see themselves as Sunni, Shiite, Kurd. They don't see themselves as Iraqis or Syrians or, you know, the dictators.
• 1:12:13
  First of all, we carved up the Ottoman Empire after World War. We're the ones that drew the borders. Sinoj Khrushchev drew the border for Ukraine. Alright? It's and then they stuck in these these dictators, and it needed a dictator.
• 1:12:33
  As long as there was a dictator there, then, you know, he would prevent them from fighting each other. As soon as you remove Saddam Hussein, you even got Tony Blair saying we didn't realize we were subjecting him to more sectarian violence. Yep. It's just the way it is.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just the cycles of the cycles of humanity and human nature Yeah. And everything.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: You know, the Shiites believed the church should run the state. Mhmm. So you got the ayatollah. And the Sunnis, no. You can have a king.
• 1:13:10
  It this is, you know, like, Protestant Catholic, you know, Protestant Reformation. They still call Catholics papes in England. And was that 1649, the civil war. So, I mean, you know, in in 1844, you can look it up when the Irish were coming, and it turned into gun battles in Philadelphia. It was the protestants against the Catholics again.
• 1:13:40
  I was in Bavaria, and and they said, oh, tomorrow's a holiday. So really, what's the holiday? We won the war. I said, which war are we talking about? You know?
• 1:13:52
  So I'll be pressure. Protestant versus Catholic. So these things are just they're always there. Yeah. I don't think they're gonna disappear.
• 1:14:03
  We might tolerate them for a while, but then when the things get what our computer does show is you don't have war when everybody's fat and happy. War shows up when the economy turns down, and that's why you're starting to see war. We're going into more of a economic downfall globally into 2028.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: As we're as we're wrapping up, I wanna pull up your website for people. It's armstrongeconomics.com, and, encourage them to check that out. You you've got a wealth of information on there. Big very, very massive wealth of information. And, yeah, just I mean, thank you so much for your time.
• 1:14:50
  And so I always I appreciate the time that you give us, and, yeah, guess the the lesson is just that history repeats itself. Everything is in cycles, and the human condition is the human condition. It's hard to change that.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If we understand we're all connected and what the problem is, our computer shows that this time is gonna be republics to fail. Yeah. And, hopefully, we go back more towards a direct democracy where at least we're asked, shall we go to war with Russia? Yes or no?
• 1:15:28
  Yeah. You know, Vietnam, you're 18. You're old enough to die to your country, but you weren't old enough to have a drink, and you weren't old enough to vote. Exactly. But you could die.
• 1:15:41
  Know? It it's not democracy. That's why a lot of Vietnam vets I know people who work with vets, and they said World War two, they were proud. Vietnam vets are angry, been treated horribly. A lot of them are dying from leukemia from the Agent Orange.
• 1:16:07
  This is what goes on.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly, unfortunately. Well, Martin, thank you again. It's always a pleasure to speak with you.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Well, take care. See you again soon. Alright. Maybe even sooner than later.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Man, maybe so. Maybe so. Alright. Thank you so much. Take care.
• 1:16:28
  I hope that you enjoyed the interview with Martin. I apologize if it's a little bit heavy, but I'd rather know the truth or at least some idea that's gonna help me find the truth than just bury my head in the sand and think, well, things are gonna get better. Things are gonna get better because cycles, we can't change and affect these cycles. They're bigger than us. They're bigger than a president.
• 1:16:50
  They're bigger than, you know, a central bank. These are cycles of history. And I think as Martin pointed out and and I gave a lot of evidence for, we're in a cycle that really represents the end of a current system. Even looking at the the global financial system and the debt bubble, and and it just it can't keep going forever. You can't keep blowing up a balloon forever.
• 1:17:13
  Eventually, it pops. It just so happens that the balloon that is going to pop at some point in the next five to ten years, maybe sooner, is a balloon that the whole world is inside of it. It's gonna be a very significant change. And so I'm someone that, again, I wanna know what's coming because I wanna prepare for it. And I'm look.
• 1:17:35
  I'm not a doomsday prepper kinda guy thinking the whole world's gonna end. I'm a realist, and I'm a father, and I'm a husband. I've got a family to look after. And so part of that realist part of my mind is saying, Seth, the the calm world that you see around you may not be this calm in a couple of years. And that's what my gut is telling me.
• 1:17:59
  And that's what my that's what Martin Armstrong's cycles and data are telling him. And so I wanna be proactive with this. And so one thing I'm doing is writing a book about it, which we're I'll have more details in the coming shows, but I've got a book I've been writing, pretty comprehensive book called prep like Noah. And the idea is that it's supposed to be a guide for just the average person. Prepping is overwhelming.
• 1:18:23
  Right? If I was to ask you, do you think things could go wrong in the next couple of years? And you say, there's a good chance of it. And if I say, are you prepared for it? I think a lot of people would say, not really.
• 1:18:33
  Where do I start? Or I've got a little extra food or, you know, I've I've got some chickens, but I have no idea. It's overwhelming. It's easy to think it's very expensive. And so the purpose of prep like Noah as a book is to help guide you through that process, but do it from a very spiritual foundation.
• 1:18:48
  Noah was, in my opinion, the greatest prepper of all time. He spent a hundred years building a boat for a flood that God told him was coming. And so I feel like that there is a flood coming. Not gonna be a global flood, I think. I mean, who knows?
• 1:19:00
  But there is a flood of some sort coming if you look at the world around us, and I wanna build my own bark boat. I wanna build my own ark. And so that's what the book is, but there's actually something much bigger that's come out of that, and that is building a community. And this is something I'm so excited about, and we're in the early stages. So I'm just gonna give you a little of it, but we're building a community.
• 1:19:17
  It's called the ARC community. With the idea being it's a place for all of us to have the similar perspective of what's happening. We we have a spiritual foundation. We have faith, but we also see that there's a lot of things wrong with this world, and we wanna be prepared. We wanna help each other.
• 1:19:31
  And so the art community is going to be a place for people to come together, to connect with one another, to share knowledge. There's gonna be a huge online university to teach you, make it so easy. If you wanna learn water purification or solar energy or, you know, backup power sources or how to heat your home in the winter. There's gonna be courses and tutorials and information, but what's most important, though, is it's gonna be a community where you can meet like minded people. And you can meet people that have a lot of skills, and maybe you have a lot of skills that you wanna also contribute.
• 1:20:01
  So maybe you've got a question about your PTO generator on your tractor, or you have a question about why you're you know, when you're canning your tomatoes, the the the lid keeps popping off. Well, you're gonna find other people that are experts in this that are gonna be so, so excited to help you, because that's what we wanna do is share. So if you are interested in being part of this community and helping and joining and helping to build this community, shoot us an email. Email community@preplikeNoah.com. It's not open yet for public the public.
• 1:20:30
  We're still building it. I'm expecting in probably early October is we're gonna open the doors and let everybody in. But if you wanna be on a list to get to have a early notification, say, hey. Things are opening up. Here's what we're doing.
• 1:20:42
  If that's interesting to you, again, just email community@preplikeNoah.com. Just give us your name and say, hey. Add me onto the list. Right? No commitment.
• 1:20:51
  All it means that we're gonna let you know as soon as the community opens up, because everything I've done with Made in America and and all the different products I'm working on, it's actually the community I feel is most important. Because the the actually, the the key to it is have it using the online community to build offline connections, And that's one of the keys is that we're gonna have different regions and chapters so that you can meet people in your local area and have local meetups and find someone locally that can help you with permaculture design in your garden or whatever it is you need help with. And so this is really exciting because it's real, and that's what's beautiful about it is this you're gonna be able to connect with real people that share your values and that wanna help you, and you wanna help them. So, anyway, if you wanted to be notified about it, again, just shoot an email to community@preplikeNoah.com, and I'll make sure you get put on that list to be notified. Thank you.